Mahindra ROXOR LE Review - First Drive

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @forefatherofmankind3305
    @forefatherofmankind3305 5 лет назад +547

    Diesel... mechanical ... Manual transmission ... no stupid tricks... And most importantly - "my complete control" over it ... ❤️

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh 4 года назад +8

      the engine is not mechanical , it has computer controlled stuff but the engine is reliable and proven!

    • @slowride55
      @slowride55 4 года назад +2

      Common rail fuel injection

    • @oldcroneysgarage9739
      @oldcroneysgarage9739 4 года назад +3

      And the cheapest one I seen is 11 grand

    • @johnathenkelly5231
      @johnathenkelly5231 4 года назад

      I live in Newfoundland, Canada and a friend of mine bought one of these without locking diffs.... virtually useless, at least around here

    • @BigBand1942
      @BigBand1942 4 года назад +1

      Complete Garbage and trash!!!!

  • @gugugyg
    @gugugyg 6 лет назад +826

    Congratulations India! Mahindra won the case against The FCA group!

    • @kiranbharadwajk277
      @kiranbharadwajk277 5 лет назад +61

      Wow glad to hear!! Cheers from India. And I hope Roxor ll be made street legal as so many people are expecting that to happen.

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 5 лет назад +21

      Jeep has to be butthurt as hell for not thinking of this idea first. That said, I doubt they will make a street legal one because the fact it isn't street legal is the only reason they won the case as far as I know. It's fine as it is, if you want street legal an older Jeep is pretty cheap or an imported Mitsubishi Jeep which is also diesel and street legal. It would be tough to get sales from that market in my opinion. But as a side by side I see this doing very well. It's a lot more useful than a Polaris ranger, and no having to pay for license and insurance like an actual Jeep. And most states it can be legally driven to the fields on road as farm equipment.

    • @dranzergigs8333
      @dranzergigs8333 5 лет назад +28

      Fiat Chrysler's are absolute piece of junk... According to Scotty kilmer.

    • @Kodazot
      @Kodazot 5 лет назад +4

      @Matthew Caughey I think it is already street legal. Front and back light, signal light windshield and wiper even you put ac and heater. I checked last night only need speed

    • @LewdnCute
      @LewdnCute 4 года назад +4

      Lol no they just lost it

  • @malice21nall
    @malice21nall 6 лет назад +336

    I was in Indo china border in early 2000s. We had to reach an army camp up in Himalayas, 2k at 45deg climb in torrential monsoon reason. Had a fully equipped Toyota give up the ghost at about 100m or so. They radioed up and an army dude down in one of these and hauled us up. Tough little things these are.

    • @keralanaturelover196
      @keralanaturelover196 6 лет назад +37

      Willys tested and made by mahindra for himalayas. Jeep selling easy rockies model

    • @rahulkatare802
      @rahulkatare802 6 лет назад +4

      Ya

    • @Blvo1
      @Blvo1 3 года назад +10

      Army uses older mahindra thar. Which is actually bit bigger than this. But these things works. Now they are using another mahindra n tata SUV's

    • @Bhaidostyaar
      @Bhaidostyaar 3 года назад +3

      @@Blvo1 mm550

  • @josephaugustine4876
    @josephaugustine4876 6 лет назад +703

    You have no idea how much torture this mahindra Jeeps can take. My father, who is a rubber planter in South Indian is still using a mahindra he brought almost 20 years ago as a plantation vehicle. It is a willis Jeep layout. I learned driving on it.

    • @JeepJeep234
      @JeepJeep234 6 лет назад +12

      Joseph Augustine I'd bet a Cherokee with a 4.0 is tougher.

    • @kosfactor
      @kosfactor 6 лет назад +18

      My relatives too have them, uses them for towing timber from rubber plantations. Very dependable.

    • @AdarshKookal
      @AdarshKookal 6 лет назад +86

      റബ്ബറിന് ഒക്കെ ഇപ്പൊ വില എങ്ങനെ അച്ഛായോ 😅😅

    • @rockinmranch6895
      @rockinmranch6895 6 лет назад +66

      Joseph Augustine My $20,000 Polaris Ranger is a pile of junk. Ive replaced CV joints, axles, steering box that ripped off the frame, on and on. I crawled under one of these mahindras. A real frame and real axle housing.....and u joints! I have NO doubt that your fathers Mahindra will still be in use 20 years from now! Thanks for sharing!

    • @JohnnyAnderson1
      @JohnnyAnderson1 6 лет назад +11

      the engine and trans in this thing weight more than the entire drive train in your Cherokee
      And it has dana44's front and rear

  • @michaelmunson5813
    @michaelmunson5813 5 лет назад +72

    I love the fact that1 its a diesel,2 it has a 5speed trans 3 ,you get to choose manually what gear your in. And last of all it's actually a blast to drive. Kudos to Mahindra for improving on a vehicle that was already tough to beat.now they just need to make it street legal

  • @RajKumar-kw4hz
    @RajKumar-kw4hz 6 лет назад +154

    Here’s Mahindra’s full statement:
    We understand that a complaint has been filed by FCA with the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) against Mahindra. Mahindra has not yet been served with the complaint and we prefer not to comment at length on the dispute at this time. However, we have reviewed FCA’s core filing and find it to be without merit. Mahindra has a historic relationship and agreements with FCA and its predecessors that go back seventy years. The relationship began in the 1940’s with the original agreement with Willys and continues to this day, with the most recent agreement executed with FCA (then Chrysler Group LLC) in 2009. Our actions, products, and product distribution (including ROXOR) both honor the legacy of the relationship and the terms of our agreements with FCA. Mahindra has been co-existing with FCA (and the Jeep brand) for over 25 years in India and in many other countries. The ROXOR is a derivative of Mahindra vehicles distributed in those markets. Based on these agreements and our history, we believe that FCA’s claims are baseless and Mahindra is well within its rights to both manufacture and distribute the ROXOR off-road vehicle.

    • @johnfitbyfaithnet
      @johnfitbyfaithnet 4 года назад +1

      I hope you are planning to appeal the recent decision

  • @surya620
    @surya620 6 лет назад +98

    Roxor is so tough that for few decades it used to serve in the Indian Army and is battle tested in the 1971 India Pakistan war (Bangladesh Liberation war)

    • @MarighnamaniMr
      @MarighnamaniMr 4 года назад +10

      Yeap, those were the Kaiser and Mahindra MM-540/550 (Ancestors of the Roxor and the Mahindra Thar)

    • @TheBinoyVudi
      @TheBinoyVudi 4 года назад +4

      The original jeeps were crazy good

  • @malice-towards-all
    @malice-towards-all 5 лет назад +42

    Decades back I used to drive Mahindra Jeep in mountainous areas of Himalaya on dirt roads , in snow, through mud and streams and at times no roads. Believe me it always took me home safe and sound. I am happy to see a new Mahindra Roxor and really feel proud that people all around the world are showing respect to this pedigree from stables of Indian auto maker Mahindra. I have seen the Indian version on roads and it looks strong powerful and dependable and young generation has taken a fancy to it. It is perfectly stree legal in India and comes with few more creature comforts and safety features .

  • @daveunderwood6498
    @daveunderwood6498 6 лет назад +176

    Mahindra is giving the people what they want, not the North American car companies giving you what they want to give you. I am a hard-core Jeep fanatic and hate the new Jeeps. I'd buy one of these any day before the electronic nightmares they build now.

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 5 лет назад +1

      Try driving it down the road

    • @daveunderwood6498
      @daveunderwood6498 5 лет назад +9

      @@toledojeeper2932 What, it feels like a jeep back in the 50's or 60's? I'd take that any day. Nowadays, alot of people would, next to the crap they sell now.

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 5 лет назад

      @@daveunderwood6498 ..its not street legal

    • @daveunderwood6498
      @daveunderwood6498 5 лет назад +7

      toledojeeper Jeep parts are INTERCHANGABLE with the Roxor. All parts. Hint hint. That's all I'll say.

    • @Sig721Tau
      @Sig721Tau 5 лет назад

      @@toledojeeper2932
      It was never intended to be driven on city roads. Its a side-by-side. Smh....

  • @v9237
    @v9237 6 лет назад +80

    The Mahendra brand picked up the off road vehicle making contract since the War.
    This is a continuation of the Willy’s brand and is more original then “Jeep” brand made by Fiat.

  • @kosfactor
    @kosfactor 6 лет назад +458

    All the negative comments are justified given whats on offer, but drive it once if you are into jeeping.
    These guys have been making the so called real jeep for more years than the real jeep company, so i guess they know a few things about how to take care of the basics rather than give you heated seats and steering wheel. All the remote and inaccessible places rely on a mahindra (a lot like toyota in other markets). The tow rating appears to be downgraded for regulatory reasons. The heavy weight is the result of reinforcements done on the real jeep chassis to make it work in India, the torture these things endure in our plantation trail everyday made me a believer. I hope they have preserved the mechanicals for reliability.

    • @kosfactor
      @kosfactor 6 лет назад +38

      Odious Ktenology I'm a regular Joe who happens to own three of their vehicles, I venture into remote parts of the country where vehicle dependability is a must, you will see Mahindra vehicles in such places in India much like Toyota elsewhere. They also happen to be the largest tractor manufacturer in the world as well.

    • @roadrunner681
      @roadrunner681 6 лет назад +21

      that dude is obviously bias, this little truck will be road legal in no time around Indiana. seems like a good little truck that would be handy

    • @kosfactor
      @kosfactor 6 лет назад +18

      roadrunner681 Ha ha, I happen to own a version of this called Thar, it can do close to 100mph.

    • @roadrunner681
      @roadrunner681 6 лет назад +1

      Kos Factor I would be nervous going that fast in a cj lol, same people complain would complain about a new 100 bill it will go down in price the longer it's on the us market

    • @xanman959
      @xanman959 6 лет назад +3

      Kos Factor the willys were made in America by Americans in 41

  • @powersportdude4905
    @powersportdude4905 6 лет назад +53

    I have been driving the Roxor and just really liking this machine and the 3500lb towing is for real great review guys!!!!

  • @aaronbehindbars
    @aaronbehindbars 6 лет назад +468

    For the same money as the higher end side by sides currently on the market, I would much rather have the Roxor. I work at a powersports dealer that sells everything and these Mahindras are built much stronger than anything else. It is hard to ignore the ability to spend less money on an older CJ that you can drive on the road, but there is a lot to be said about it being brand new, with a warranty, and having that turbo diesel.

    • @lightninsadventures2692
      @lightninsadventures2692 6 лет назад

      Aaron Fink higher end? You mean a base model sxs

    • @lightninsadventures2692
      @lightninsadventures2692 6 лет назад +5

      Higher end models are 25-30 grand

    • @aaronbehindbars
      @aaronbehindbars 6 лет назад +7

      aric lewis I am talking about utility sxs, not the turbo RZR or Maverick X3. Ranger 1000/Pro FX/Defender HD10 are $15-20k. Roxor is priced compeitive with those machines. Those are at the top end of the utility sxs market.

    • @mroinsno
      @mroinsno 6 лет назад +8

      You could always buy a CJ and put this engine in or one of the new Cummins 4 cylinders

    • @sachins2885
      @sachins2885 6 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/Et7CqvttXnI/видео.html

  • @sandmanoseven
    @sandmanoseven 6 лет назад +154

    Love this toy, it will be my next purchase. Old school jeep with modern tech and a great price point.

    • @matthewschiebout9081
      @matthewschiebout9081 6 лет назад +3

      not street legal, so not as useful

    • @HebinGeorge
      @HebinGeorge 6 лет назад +2

      Mahindra Thar is the one to look for.

    • @dashcamera_daily
      @dashcamera_daily 6 лет назад +3

      @@MS-gr2nv "make in america" thats why

    • @coryr9938
      @coryr9938 6 лет назад

      By modern tech I think he means the sound bar on the higher trim models lol. That's about the only tech on this thing, but that's what it's supposed to be, a bare bones tough truck.

    • @rahulkatare802
      @rahulkatare802 6 лет назад

      @@MS-gr2nv Go For Range Rover Mr. Poor

  • @silent3396
    @silent3396 6 лет назад +744

    Everyone says make in America, so Mahindra makes in America now everyone says why is it expensive.

    • @brandonwright2067
      @brandonwright2067 6 лет назад +55

      silentThunder to funny and true

    • @bryanhersman4037
      @bryanhersman4037 6 лет назад +107

      Assembled in the USA from a big crate. I wish they could knock another few thousand off it and just send the crate to my door and I'll put it together myself.

    • @MRBILL-dr2wr
      @MRBILL-dr2wr 6 лет назад +33

      I wouldn't say it's expensive because of the price tag. What makes it expensive is the fact that it only does 45 miles an hour. And it's illegal to get in it and drive it on the street that's what you get for $16,000 plus . And when you think about it that way it sounds pretty shity.

    • @wun1gee
      @wun1gee 6 лет назад +79

      There are already aftermarket flashes for the ECU that lift the electronically-limited speed. One video has them getting it to almost 80mph on a 1/4 mile dyno, while making over 100 horsepower at the rear wheels. The little 2.5L turbo diesel is massively detuned in the ECU. It's got so much more potential than it's realizing because of the electronic detune.
      If you want to drive it on the street, go find an old rusting CJ, grab the VIN plate, put the VIN plate on the Roxor and register it as a CJ. Problem solved.

    • @silent3396
      @silent3396 6 лет назад +7

      Do search for retail of other non-street legal offering you will be surprised

  • @gwlane5509
    @gwlane5509 6 лет назад +340

    The US auto makers will fight to keep the street legal truck version out...cause they know it will sell!!! I hope to see it in the US in my lifetime...

    • @drumbum7999
      @drumbum7999 6 лет назад +1

      Hows that work chief?

    • @rahulkatare802
      @rahulkatare802 6 лет назад +12

      I am from USA Boston,This strong and durable Vehicle I using without any major issue since 70yr gifted me by my dad

    • @2beezavd
      @2beezavd 5 лет назад

      what about the rebel west R2 can you do a side by side comparison

    • @gordonmusic9712
      @gordonmusic9712 5 лет назад +12

      Greg Lane if a golf cart can be street legal then a roxor can be legal just all lights emissions tires we need this to offset jeeps rising costs and less off road capabilitys

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 5 лет назад +3

      @@gordonmusic9712 ..a golf cart is only legal when it can only be driven less than 25mph and is limited to side streets .

  • @BradBrother
    @BradBrother 6 лет назад +48

    Love it! Absolutely perfect for someone who doesnt have time to restore a CJ but still wants one

  • @rockinmranch6895
    @rockinmranch6895 6 лет назад +172

    Im going to buy one tommorow.... I sold the two Rangers and one set of prospector tracks after blowing up the “front diff” in the 800. Jeep is pissed and trying to ban their sale in the US. Better get em while the getting is good. Not everyday you can buy a brand new Willys-Kaiser jeep with a diesel engine in it. And the axles? Take Dana 44 ring and pinion gears and locker units. Ridiculous value. Go try to restore an old Willys to new quality for the Roxor price.

    • @sammiepeanutbutter8245
      @sammiepeanutbutter8245 6 лет назад

      Rockin M Ranch did you end up getting one?

    • @rahulkatare802
      @rahulkatare802 6 лет назад +2

      Roxor is best because Mahendra tried to save Jeep improving Speed with Turbo engine and preservation Old attitude of Jeep

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 5 лет назад +2

      Why would this effect Jeep , it's not street legal .

    • @daveycrocket6277
      @daveycrocket6277 5 лет назад +1

      Rockin M Ranch yea but a good used mid to late 90s Jeep can be bought for 5 to 7 grand running in good condition and street legal. Good used parts can be found in junkyard or bought brand new relatively cheap

    • @donnkelley6823
      @donnkelley6823 5 лет назад

      Are you sure you can use Dana parts, especially lockers?????

  • @comporangesvt
    @comporangesvt 6 лет назад +152

    As soon as I find one of these available in Connecticut, I WILL be buying one!

    • @AV8R_1
      @AV8R_1 6 лет назад +8

      chris spencer there’s several already. There’s a black LE at motor sports nation in Waterford, and a black one as well as a red one at Higgins power sports in Barre MA which isn’t a long drive away. They even have a good dirt trail you can test it on.. I know this because I did it.. just a warning, as a Connecticut resident myself I opted not to buy a Roxor specifically because of the difficulty for us to use them. That is if you intend to use it legally..If you have a large piece of private property go for it, but if you are are used to hauling UTVs out of state to use them you may want to do some research about your preferred trails.. The vast majority of Massachusetts and New Hampshire UTV trails don’t allow the Roxor because it is over the weight limit for a UTV registration. And unfortunately you can’t bring it on a lot of the OHV or jeep trails because it cannot be registered as a street legal vehicle either.. EDIT... motorsports Nation Waterford now has a Grey one as well.

    • @robertess7426
      @robertess7426 6 лет назад +2

      Chris , Rte 83 in Vernon CT Just saw one today at a motor sports shop in white

    • @Tahara-Aichi
      @Tahara-Aichi 6 лет назад +3

      chris spencer actually I saw one driving on 95 around Stratford area

    • @daveycrocket6277
      @daveycrocket6277 5 лет назад

      chris spencer just buy a used Jeep for around 5 grand give or take a grand

  • @19683
    @19683 6 лет назад +15

    These vehicles have been run for a zillion kms in really tough conditions, mountains at 6000 m plus, deserts, swamps, jungles, and rural roads, Mahindra knows what it is building.

  • @justtl5885
    @justtl5885 6 лет назад +3

    I met a gentleman who pulls one of these behind his pickup truck camper ,boon docking rig.Has owned it for a year now.Absolutely loves it and said he smiles every time he gets behind the wheel.👍🏻

  • @user-tg4xg1xc8q
    @user-tg4xg1xc8q 6 лет назад +190

    People are hating just because it is made by a Indian company and calling 3rd world country cant make real jeep. Guys who doesn't know thing outside USA.

    • @shenbagaprasanna6687
      @shenbagaprasanna6687 5 лет назад +8

      So true bro!

    • @godsownsoldier
      @godsownsoldier 5 лет назад +3

      @@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 go play with your plastic toy then😉😉

    • @The333Wanderer
      @The333Wanderer 4 года назад +2

      Mani Dora copied a USA well loved design. And India doesn't have the safety rules the USA has. Still, it looks like fun.

    • @karan1993ganotra
      @karan1993ganotra 4 года назад +17

      @@The333Wanderer i got to know USA president ask for India help for covid 19 medicine. is it true?

    • @biswaranjanmallick7407
      @biswaranjanmallick7407 4 года назад +4

      @@The333Wanderer Oh really? You should look at Detroit first..worst city ever

  • @russellquandt4050
    @russellquandt4050 5 лет назад +47

    I fully expect a road legal version in coming years. Keeping this thing off road reduces your potential customers drastically. Daimler Chrysler is going to have a serious problem at that point, or whoever owns the jeep moniker.

  • @secondcreekworkshop3908
    @secondcreekworkshop3908 6 лет назад +246

    A pickup version of the Roxor would be the bomb .

    • @AV8R_1
      @AV8R_1 6 лет назад +4

      DUDE!!! YOU CAN'T SAY "BOMB"!!!

    • @andychauhan6544
      @andychauhan6544 6 лет назад +2

      AV8R Tom he said "da bomb".

    • @theguywhotrolledyou
      @theguywhotrolledyou 6 лет назад +3

      We have it in India

    • @ArjunSingh-iu9mq
      @ArjunSingh-iu9mq 5 лет назад

      Second Creek Workshop take a look at Mahinda Scorpio pickup

    • @ArjunSingh-iu9mq
      @ArjunSingh-iu9mq 5 лет назад

      These Mahindra jeep pickup are very common here in India.

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas 6 лет назад +14

    Off-road enthusiasts will love this thing! I just love the fact that it has 3 pedals! So hard to find just about anything with a manual anymore unless it's a musclecar, and even then it's a challenge. I love 5 speeds!

  • @nicolec7290
    @nicolec7290 6 лет назад +76

    Hope they don’t get cheap. They will sell good. Please keep it strong. I’m saving my money

  • @lawnfascist4890
    @lawnfascist4890 6 лет назад +55

    Looks like a fun ride. It's a real shame that the government over here is RAF and keeping this thing off road.
    It's laughable that all the jeep people wanna shit talk it when it's more of a jeep than the current jeeps.
    i'd have one of these over a sillyass side by side any day of the week.

  • @jessilooney2444
    @jessilooney2444 6 лет назад +147

    people are so jealous of this its better then junky side by sides alot tougher built

    • @jessilooney2444
      @jessilooney2444 6 лет назад +12

      +Lux yep but that out dated jeep is built stronger then these new jeeps thats for fucking sure they aint shit but pretty not work horses like they used to be the new ones suck

    • @ryand4533
      @ryand4533 4 года назад +5

      FKN Major Because your an idiot. It’s a diesel side by side!!! Probably run for the rest of your life!!

    • @BigBand1942
      @BigBand1942 4 года назад

      Complete Garbage and trash!!!!

    • @molonlabe23
      @molonlabe23 4 года назад

      You must be drunk. These are trash

    • @supersprit5733
      @supersprit5733 4 года назад +2

      @FKN Major +Jessi Looney look who is rescuing new jeep-wrangler 2.41 & 5.41 in this video ruclips.net/video/ETxSJhMbnIs/видео.html

  • @AshwinKabbinahalli
    @AshwinKabbinahalli 6 лет назад +80

    Fully mechanical!!
    Sounds good

  • @theshocker4626
    @theshocker4626 6 лет назад +385

    Needs a .50 cal mounted on top

    • @Easy-Eight
      @Easy-Eight 6 лет назад +4

      The old M-53s had a 106mm recoilless rifle. They were designed to be anti-tank weapons (nobody ever tried that theory, thank the Lord).

    • @rahulvp9184
      @rahulvp9184 5 лет назад +32

      @@Easy-Eight Actually we Indians tried it in 1971 war in battle of longe wala against Pakistani armor. Two jeeps with recoilless gun managed to destroy three patton tanks by losing one Jeep

    • @Easy-Eight
      @Easy-Eight 5 лет назад +6

      @ Rahul en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Longewala

    • @crazymohawk86
      @crazymohawk86 5 лет назад +3

      @@Easy-Eight good read

    • @Scribles
      @Scribles 5 лет назад

      yep

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes 3 года назад +14

    I am actually shocked by the fact that there's is such a huge and loyal roxor fanbase in USA

  • @gracilism
    @gracilism 6 лет назад +150

    Looks like a winning combo of trail rider and ranch worker. Perfect for me.

    • @Lincoln-wb3jj
      @Lincoln-wb3jj 6 лет назад

      Cerberus there used to be a jeep Willy’s option for pto, they got used for hay a lot I believe but they weren’t very common

  • @adrianw3985
    @adrianw3985 6 лет назад +122

    Basically a WW2 Jeep, sounds fun.

    • @adrianw3985
      @adrianw3985 6 лет назад +2

      Klaus Van Heusen simple and basic like a WW2 era Jeep and similar is size. They basically are licensed to build what essential are designs from that era.

    • @AnOrangeOrange1000
      @AnOrangeOrange1000 6 лет назад +7

      Adrian Wevers Back in the 50s, Mahindra had official license from Willys Overland to manufacture these great vehicles.
      The problem in the West is that, every brand is sold & purchased so many times that, every new buyer (manufacturer) dilutes the original & with that, dilutes the spirit of the original.
      In India, things remain the same for years.
      The same holds true for Royal Enfield Bullet Bikes (an iteration of the original British Enfield).

    • @majicaldonut
      @majicaldonut 6 лет назад

      Adrian Wevers not really

  • @comporangesvt
    @comporangesvt 6 лет назад +104

    With a diesel in it, should be fairly simple to wickup the power a bit too. I see lots of aftermarket coming out in the future. These things are going to take off

    • @devansh3700
      @devansh3700 6 лет назад +2

      chris spencer yup a chip wud come soon

    • @wun1gee
      @wun1gee 6 лет назад +4

      There's already companies removing the speed governor and tuning the engine to make over 100hp at the rear wheels.

    • @rishishenoy
      @rishishenoy 6 лет назад +1

      Get in touch with Vivid racing once you buy one... They can remove the limit and boost up this thing. The Indian version shells out double the power. 120 Bhp. Get a lift kit and you can start crawling !

    • @bigbossman5969
      @bigbossman5969 5 лет назад

      that diesel probably don't have to meet epa standards because it made for off road use and people trying to compare it to a jeep that is subject to all kinds of safety standards and epa standards.

  • @pankajkumarverma9809
    @pankajkumarverma9809 6 лет назад +244

    Mahindra is making India proud

    • @rocketlaunch99
      @rocketlaunch99 6 лет назад +1

      🤨

    • @keralanaturelover196
      @keralanaturelover196 6 лет назад +7

      Mahindra spend huge on research in many countries

    • @suryar7026
      @suryar7026 6 лет назад +7

      abc abc @ Ford ,Chovarlet , Jeep also make US proud in other Countries... What's your logic??

    • @rahulkatare802
      @rahulkatare802 6 лет назад +4

      Don't need to show up Bhai sahab

    • @SPEARHEADGLOBAL
      @SPEARHEADGLOBAL 6 лет назад

      They just sold 4000 models in 2018 😑

  • @timmorris245
    @timmorris245 6 лет назад +52

    Reminds me of the M151a2 during my old military days.

  • @rahultodmalytube
    @rahultodmalytube 6 лет назад +19

    This is serious off road vehical sold under name ' Thar' ,"Commondar" . From last 75+ years in INDIA. To Miletry and on Road.

  • @MrTenhighguy
    @MrTenhighguy 6 лет назад +68

    So its got a turbo diesel, manual transmission, and solid axles whats not to love. Yah its over 15k just like damn near every new side by side and you cant drive it on the highway, just like every side by side. For those guys who love old school mechanical fun these should sell like hotcakes. Anyone who buys a 20k sxs pretty much knows 20k gets you a real bad ass off road truck but they still by side by sides so obviously the market demand is there. I give them props for making this and hope to see a work oriented pickup style in the future. Or just give us the cheap stripped diesel mahindra truck we were supposed to get 6-8 years ago.

    • @brandoncaldwell95
      @brandoncaldwell95 6 лет назад

      GEORGE Not true. Some states allow the registration for highway use.

    • @motojunkie9675
      @motojunkie9675 6 лет назад +1

      GEORGE they're in the works right now, for an on road offroad type of set up. The only problem they face is where to sell it. I'll be buying one, the only thing I'd like to see on the future is as on's. Such better suspension side slider things like that.

    • @gordonbush2054
      @gordonbush2054 6 лет назад

      Glad to see someone else remembers the US Mahindra diesel puckup tease

    • @BHShaman
      @BHShaman 6 лет назад

      Can't take it on ATV/UTV 55" trails
      .. Unlike a SxS

    • @bryanhersman4037
      @bryanhersman4037 6 лет назад

      Most side by sides are 60 or 64 inches wide so this at 62" fits right in there with all the common ones. Now there are "trail" side by sides that need to be under 50" which there are only about 4, the most common and longest running a Polaris RZR. So no it's not a "trail" size which was established for ATVs in the first place, but it is a standard SxS width.

  • @stevegps
    @stevegps 6 лет назад +53

    These are street legal in Montana.

    • @nicholasmapes
      @nicholasmapes 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, but montana is awsome, where alot of other states arent...

    • @vwjay94575
      @vwjay94575 4 года назад +1

      I heard of someone who got it legal in N.C.

  • @MarighnamaniMr
    @MarighnamaniMr 4 года назад +7

    The one being sold here in India is the Mahindra Thar. I would say, Roxor is the "export version" of the Thar lol. Both machines are absolute beasts! I own a Mahindra Thar and she is a badass!!

  • @nandishchinivarshadakshari2989
    @nandishchinivarshadakshari2989 4 года назад +15

    When zombie apocalypse or dooms day, i like this vehicle to be there in my inventory.

  • @truknegna
    @truknegna 6 лет назад +2

    I wish this guy would review every single thing in the world! He makes you feel like you know everything about it- without question! Bravo

  • @davidbrennan5
    @davidbrennan5 6 лет назад +18

    I think it is cool. It is better for work than a side by side by far and would be great for hunting. In the winter you could put a decent size plow on it and run chains if you had to. If they added wipers, heated cab/doors, cooilant heater for cold mornings, PTO and la locking diff it would sell very well to farmers.

    • @terryjohnson8317
      @terryjohnson8317 6 лет назад

      Then it would cost $25,000 and still be a piece of shit

    • @davidbrennan5
      @davidbrennan5 6 лет назад +1

      The price is a big problem, most farmers around here pick up used mini trucks from Japan or buy up older Suzuki Samurai or Sidekicks and Chev Tackers for dirt cheap and run them into the ground doing chores around the farm, they usually have a small Honda foot shift ATV with a solid rear axle for smaller jobs.

    • @gamingsingh4004
      @gamingsingh4004 6 лет назад

      davidbrennan5 well this is new in market.. i say wait some good 5years then u can get this thing for a really good price in 2nd hand market.
      Its bit unfair to be honest as mahindra do sell a fully loaded soft top cab, heater and ac, proper dash, music player.. no limit on engine all that for about the same price in india if not less (under $15 grand)
      Its called mahindra ‘Thar’
      Probably the import duty add to the cost of this as its assembled in america not manufactured. Some parts might get manufactured there which are specific to US market rest come from India..
      May b its just because i am indian i feel like mahindra is ripping off.

  • @crashandburnbirner
    @crashandburnbirner 6 лет назад +43

    Alright, ditch the speed limiter, put a cab and a heater on it and it'd sell great.

    • @ranger4770
      @ranger4770 6 лет назад +5

      crashandburnbirner Thats called a mahindra thar in india

    • @daveycrocket6277
      @daveycrocket6277 5 лет назад

      crashandburnbirner or just buy used mid 90s Jeep for around 5 to 6 grand ready to put in road heat ac I don't know that makes more sense to me even if you don't put it on the street 5 or 6 grand vs 15 grand who would be smarter the person that paid 5 grand or 15 grand 🤔

  • @samhaokip9126
    @samhaokip9126 5 лет назад +4

    I love how simple this thing is! It looks great too. Need me one

  • @kawkaw20
    @kawkaw20 2 года назад +2

    once my cousin took me in this on a hunting trip with a straight rock hill and i thought the hunt is over. but the roxor straight up climbed the hill, that was impressive

  • @SG-vc3wb
    @SG-vc3wb 6 лет назад +5

    That was a great, helpful presentation of the Roxor. Sounds and looks like Mahindra will be successful with this machine.

  • @jakestech28
    @jakestech28 6 лет назад +192

    Looks like that guy needs a bigger helmet.

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 6 лет назад +9

      You know you need to go on a diet when even your head is so fat that its oozing out the bottom of the helmet.

    • @BoopSnoot
      @BoopSnoot 6 лет назад +1

      7:40 and it may have had a low CG if it didn't have a 300lb corn fed boy sitting up high.

    • @megaglowz8540
      @megaglowz8540 6 лет назад

      And maybe a little less childish.

    • @kevingauthier7973
      @kevingauthier7973 6 лет назад +1

      Smaller head

    • @MrMANISHAHLAWAT
      @MrMANISHAHLAWAT 6 лет назад

      Jake Tow 🤣🤣

  • @VH-fv9op
    @VH-fv9op 6 лет назад +36

    I'm buying one as soon as the start selling in Hawaii

    • @daveycrocket6277
      @daveycrocket6277 5 лет назад

      VH2015 just get you a used mid 90s Jeep already ready to put on the road or street legal for 5 or six grand vs 15grand that you have to pull to the trail

    • @shreyashmore8769
      @shreyashmore8769 5 лет назад +4

      davey Crocket you are every where....one someone says I’m going to buy it...why you hatting it?😂

    • @godsownsoldier
      @godsownsoldier 5 лет назад +5

      @@shreyashmore8769 he is actually frustrated by the fact that India made such a nice off road vehicle

  • @achrisofalltrades5620
    @achrisofalltrades5620 5 лет назад +5

    Great review, didn't think I'd rather this than a traditional side by side, but you changed my mind. I think this IS more for me.
    Was wondering if the differentials were open, limited slip or locking?

  • @curioushooter
    @curioushooter 6 лет назад +10

    This vehicle has a lot of potential I think. For one IT ISN'T A WRETCHED AMC or Chrysler product.
    I see these UTVs out there with four seats that cost 8-10 grand easy, and this thing is actually useful, not a toy. It has a real liquid-cooled and full-pressure lubrication diesel engine in it, not some aircooled splash-lubed gasoline burner. It also has a real geared standard transmission with a real suspension. It is basically the Willys WWII Jeep which was the best vehicle to ever carry that name. Every CJ I've ever had the misfortune of being around has been a non-stop problem, mostly because they were poorly engineered/poorly manufactured cars when they were new. Add in a few decades of decay and you get a hunk of junk that sits in your yard and provides an excellent rabbit habitat but not much else. Wranglers are outrageously expensive, and it doesn't take long when you start working on one to realize they are absolute garbage, especially if you have one with those awful Renix electrical systems. The AMC I-6 was an ok engine, but it wont be able to deliver the low speed torque or efficiency of this modern Mahindra diesel.
    An ag-model with a pto would BE the finest vehicle for pulling a hay baler or hay wagons around. It would also make a great vehicle for a rancher or grazier.

    • @ranchurdhimster4955
      @ranchurdhimster4955 5 лет назад

      Easy there my AMC 4.0 Grand Cherokee has 230,000 on it

    • @aravinds1208
      @aravinds1208 5 лет назад +1

      @@ranchurdhimster4955 And my Mahindra THAR 4x4 at 278000 and still young

    • @ranchurdhimster4955
      @ranchurdhimster4955 5 лет назад

      @@aravinds1208 That's good to know thank you

  • @bullrambler
    @bullrambler 6 лет назад +2

    This is the configuration that would suit my needs. Tire package, winch package, roof should be a hartop. tow hitch, windshield with intermittent wipers and a heater with windshield defrost. mirrors, cab, signals, horn. The ROXOR needs to fit northern climates for all seasons use. Suitable for off road and can be driven on road in Ontario, Canada. More for local or short trip driving. Not sure how good the radio is but it would be a nice added feature if it can do what a typical AM/FM radio can do and that means bringing in clear radio signal. Keep it simple, user friendly and minimize the bling. Not fond of bright colors but olive green, navy grey, and/or camo.

  • @wilstjames3111
    @wilstjames3111 6 лет назад +6

    the epitome of a jeep, so functional, economical, leave your luxuries at home, drive this for your outdoor transport tool.

  • @BGoa-ki5pr
    @BGoa-ki5pr 2 года назад +2

    Btw... This vehicle is used by Indian Army/special forces too..as it can easily transport soldiers in narrow terrain in Indian jungles..

  • @KennyRider137
    @KennyRider137 6 лет назад +34

    For all the street legal comments I bet the cops just think it's a CJ. Put farm plates on it, an orange triangle and use it on back roads.

    • @chuck4031
      @chuck4031 6 лет назад +1

      Kenny Rider. my thoughts too.fashion a 3 point hitch with a electrichydrolic lift, ( had made one on our '65 cj5 ) hang a orange triangle on it and call it a tractor and head down the road.

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 5 лет назад

      See how far you get , SMV are for tractors and you will get a ticket , I know from experience. My dad put one on a old farm truck that i was taking to the field and I got the ticket from state patrol .

    • @nermket4849
      @nermket4849 5 лет назад

      toledojeeper at least it's made by a tractor company lol

    • @tangydiesel1886
      @tangydiesel1886 5 лет назад

      @@toledojeeper2932 SMV signs are for anything going 25 mph or slower. Tractors that go faster than that don't have them. I see them on cars following cyclists running on the highway (at slow speed.)

    • @toledojeeper2932
      @toledojeeper2932 5 лет назад

      @@tangydiesel1886 ..the truck didnt go more than 25mph..all farm tractors are required to have smv signs

  • @georei
    @georei 6 лет назад

    This is one bad ass side by side. It can pull my pop up camper with no problem. I use it all the time around my camp site hauling fire wood, riding trails, or going to get water from the spring with a 200 gallon tank on a flat bed trailer.

  • @wildbill23c
    @wildbill23c 6 лет назад +5

    Great review, thank you. Overall they're great, but yep, they do ride a little rough, they are speed limited, but they're not meant for flying down the freeway LOL. Funny they don't really cost much more than today's ATV's and UTV's. If I were in the market this is what I'd go with, the manual transmission and transfer case, the diesel engine, solid axles, no CVT, exactly what I want...and if they do come out with a version that has a PTO, I'd be much more apt to purchase.

  • @fulljump57
    @fulljump57 5 лет назад

    I owned a 62 jeep CJ-3 , best off road vehicle I ever owned. I built trails in Co. at 9,000 ft, and skidded full grown ponderosa pine logs full size logs down a mountain side slope on a zigzag trail I made in a 62 jeep with a small 4 cylinder (it was a steep slope). The High and low speed for each gear was amazing , low was so low you could let it idle in gear and it would climb straight up a mountain, you could get out and walk next to it on flat land. The PTO would run a winch up front, there was a throttle nob you could pull out to set the rpm. This Roxor looks very much like the unstoppable CJ3. I want one.

  • @InvictvsNox
    @InvictvsNox 6 лет назад +93

    I'm not a Jeep guy, but I would kill to have one of these. Aren't they offering some package to make them street legal?

    • @jamesmayo4060
      @jamesmayo4060 6 лет назад +38

      InvictvsNox turn signals and adjust the computer speed increases to 85 mph. License it as a dune buggy it is now street legal.

    • @MudRider2189
      @MudRider2189 6 лет назад +2

      James Mayo I wonder how easy it is to adjust the computer.

    • @elijahbrooks8589
      @elijahbrooks8589 6 лет назад +31

      I live in Florida I can use hand signals

    • @bagadbilli7560
      @bagadbilli7560 6 лет назад +13

      U can import a road legal mahindra thar 3.0 from India with same price

    • @otm646
      @otm646 6 лет назад +5

      @@bagadbilli7560 No you can't. It's not outside the 25-year import rule.

  • @triggerhappyreviews
    @triggerhappyreviews 5 лет назад

    This guy. Love it. 99% of reviewers are little dudes that have no clue what a DXL buyer is looking for. Keep it up man.

  • @abiezz
    @abiezz 4 года назад +3

    Love the review. Roxor is slowly gaining market share.....

  • @blackbird2291
    @blackbird2291 6 лет назад

    Well, this is how a review should be. Thoroughly appreciated.

  • @huntertodd7915
    @huntertodd7915 3 года назад +4

    If only there was a 4 seat long utility bed😕 with like a tough diamond plate bed about 4-5’, it would fill such a good role. At my work we have a few kawasaki mules that are great but they can’t tow enough and there way too slow especially with tracks

  • @ganeshanreddy
    @ganeshanreddy 6 лет назад

    Excellent Technical comments seems to be more clear on the specs.Thanks to that Gentleman.

  • @painmagnet1
    @painmagnet1 6 лет назад +16

    This rig REALLY needs to be street legal.

    • @brandoncaldwell95
      @brandoncaldwell95 6 лет назад +1

      painmagnet1 is in some states.

    • @l337pwnage
      @l337pwnage 6 лет назад +1

      +pain write Trump to repeal regulations and it just might be.

    • @wun1gee
      @wun1gee 6 лет назад +2

      Put a windshield, blinkers, mirrors, a license plate light on it, find an old rusted out basket case CJ, take the VIN plate, put the VIN plate on the Roxor and register it as a CJ.
      Street legal in every state.

  • @ianwiese1
    @ianwiese1 5 лет назад +1

    I'm not a jeep person or a side by side person but as soon as I seen one of these and sat in it. I was like yup I bet this thing is a real tank

  • @NuclearSandwich7
    @NuclearSandwich7 6 лет назад +21

    This is damn near a Suzuki samurai.. for 15 grand. Horsepower is almost identical, it does have more torque beings as it’s a diesel, but the samurai is also legal to drive on road, and is typically a fraction of the cost.

    • @D3thM3tal
      @D3thM3tal 6 лет назад +4

      That was my thought as well - just bought one this week after looking at SXS prices and nearly puking.

    • @shorthood2518
      @shorthood2518 6 лет назад

      Check the dimensions, it's way closer to a cj-7 or YJ than a samurai.

    • @Krice118
      @Krice118 6 лет назад +1

      Hard to compare a 20year old samurai to a BRAND new Roxor. I am excited to see the aftermarket offerings for these. I hope they get some better suspension travel and some Lockers

    • @shorthood2518
      @shorthood2518 6 лет назад +3

      Samurai is 79.9" wb (18" shorter), 60.6" wide (1.4" narrower) and curb weight just over 2000lbs (1000 lbs lighter)
      Roxor is way way closer to a CJ-7/YJ

    • @NuclearSandwich7
      @NuclearSandwich7 6 лет назад +2

      tommy harrell wasn’t meant to be a completely specific comparison. Both are relatively the same size, both have similar suspension set ups, both use exclusively a manual transmission, and both have anemic horsepower outputs. The samurai is just far more economical.

  • @munecaeburro
    @munecaeburro 5 лет назад +1

    It looks like you are having fun. A lot. Sold!

  • @masonpalpant4784
    @masonpalpant4784 6 лет назад +11

    If they could pull some street legality out of their ass I’d buy one😂

  • @d.w.bigglybigleague1709
    @d.w.bigglybigleague1709 5 лет назад

    Old school...and I love it. If they put a PTO on it like planned...Wow!👍

  • @mrRaleigh97
    @mrRaleigh97 6 лет назад +4

    That is literally the side x side i've been dreaming of. Never liked the CVT transmissions and computer controlled gadgets. A manual, diesel, 4x4 jeep just bare bones. That is exactly what one of these should be.

  • @OldGlory1776
    @OldGlory1776 5 лет назад +1

    I'm in Agriculture and have been running a fleet of Polaris's for about 10 years now. Without even driving it, I would tell you I'd drop polaris machines like a hotcake for Roxor's if they would simply supply a hard cab for the thing. IT NEEDS A REAL CAB!

  • @hftn5879
    @hftn5879 6 лет назад +4

    It's simple but Awesone.....

  • @JeePolaris
    @JeePolaris 6 лет назад +1

    Wow this is the first time I have heard of this, pretty awesome!

  • @zippyoya
    @zippyoya 6 лет назад +6

    If I buy one can I take the limiter off for like roads

  • @nicolec7290
    @nicolec7290 5 лет назад

    I want 1 soooooooo bad. Hopefully they don’t start getting greedy & cheap them up. The one I looked at was 1 of the first 300. & it was a beast. Nothing cheap or weak. Love it

  • @chuckyrides
    @chuckyrides 5 лет назад +3

    Impressive little truck, reminds me of the suzuki samurai.

  • @kealiialoha1
    @kealiialoha1 6 лет назад +1

    I think the savings grace for Roxor would be a new powerplant for the Cj5. Weight is close between the two but Americans have tons of replacement parts for body, suspension and drive train upgrades. We need a great Cj5 engine drop in,

  • @jerrydmartinez5156
    @jerrydmartinez5156 6 лет назад +4

    How did you get that helmet on/off? Asking for a friend.

  • @asingh5482
    @asingh5482 6 лет назад

    Lovely, intelligent marketing strategy for introducing a new product in competitive and aggressive US automobile market.

  • @goitoutdoors
    @goitoutdoors 6 лет назад +17

    With a PTO, small bed 1 ft longer and 8" longer wheelbase this would be a perfect farm vehicle. 15" steel wheels please.

    • @kaulnick
      @kaulnick 6 лет назад

      www.google.co.in/search?q=mahindra+pickup&rlz=1C1GNAM_enIN745IN745&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil5N2xuM3bAhUfSI8KHeZDBxUQ_AUICigB&biw=1229&bih=587&dpr=1.56#imgrc=_

  • @fyreantz2555
    @fyreantz2555 6 лет назад

    Can't wait to see the aftermarket custom gear that's developed for it.

  • @jimf1964
    @jimf1964 5 лет назад +4

    Oh enough about the tires! Dropping $18k on a toy, tires aren't the biggest worry.
    I was going to say why don't the jeep companies make a stripped down, cheap version anymore. Until you mentioned the price. Even this thing is $18k. Imagine a road worthy? Forget that. 4 wheeler companies are just out to rip us off.

  • @lordofthestings
    @lordofthestings 6 лет назад

    I just bought a Jeep Rubicon Unlimited with 26,000 for $13,000.
    It's in very good condition with ice cold air conditioning and a inline 6. Its completely at home off road and I daily drive it as well.

  • @fastdraw30
    @fastdraw30 5 лет назад +8

    To be so basic, its outrageously priced at over 16k for the cheapest version, you can buy a really nice used wrangler or CJ for less money.😕

  • @perfectlybalanced8995
    @perfectlybalanced8995 7 месяцев назад

    The Jimny/Wrangler fusion we really needed

  • @hbrhodes1s
    @hbrhodes1s 6 лет назад +5

    He sounds so much like Foggy from Netflix Daredevil

  • @jamesmoore3346
    @jamesmoore3346 6 лет назад

    I'm 62, getting over stage 3 lung cancer, (BEAT IT), live in a small town with pkenty of access to off roading. The roxor is easily converted for street. Think when I get back to work I just may reward myself with one. I plain out like it. I was a tractor and equipment mechanic back when the mahindra tractors were first sold in the US. Never had any problems out of them other than a few loose bolts. They make good machinary.

    • @Infini2k
      @Infini2k 6 лет назад

      Sir Hope you fight off Cancer successfully! Get well soon

  • @derrickkimsey1921
    @derrickkimsey1921 6 лет назад +17

    Love it

  • @herby69693
    @herby69693 5 лет назад

    Thank you for pronouncing Willys correctly. I wish other videos would have watched yours first. Hopefully they will learn of their mistake. Thanks again!

  • @rinurazak580
    @rinurazak580 5 лет назад +3

    Vintage Mahindra 🔥

  • @leejproductions27
    @leejproductions27 5 лет назад

    I would sure hate to roll over in this vehicle. I loved how he takes each short comming and make it sound like a planned advantage.

  • @codymcgonagill5392
    @codymcgonagill5392 6 лет назад +9

    There's something to be said about reliability sure you'll get smoked all day everyday buy razors but what kind of shape is that razor going to be in in 15 20 30 years

  • @retrodog63
    @retrodog63 5 лет назад +1

    A true work vehicle operates pretty much the opposite of a performance vehicle, as far as shifting and power delivery. This thing is a work machine, not a sports machine. Very cool, if you're just trying to get around and get work done.

  • @sarathpadathil8029
    @sarathpadathil8029 6 лет назад +29

    love from india

  • @adamadams6740
    @adamadams6740 4 года назад +1

    You love that heavy meaty feeling in your hands don’t you!! Lol I think these are a cool way to get an old Jeep that’s brand new with a good motor.with some lockers a lift and ditch the speed limiter this could be an awesome way to get a cool old school 4x4 that’s not covered in rust and a great starting point to customize! Thanks for the review👍🏿

  • @JacobTJ1
    @JacobTJ1 6 лет назад +3

    SOLD

  • @sunnysideup6189
    @sunnysideup6189 5 лет назад

    Old school cool. Can't wait to buy one!

  • @Bret02
    @Bret02 6 лет назад +5

    My 2001 jeep tj I bought for 10k weighs 3045 pounds... just like 20 more pounds than this thing and its street legal! Also I got coil springs.

    • @Bret02
      @Bret02 6 лет назад

      👏

    • @oliviersavard8676
      @oliviersavard8676 6 лет назад

      Lux You have the choice: either you pay less, either you get it built locally. If you wanna pay less, then it's going to be an imported thing built in India. If you want it to be built locally in America, then you're going to be paying more.
      Thing is, if it would have been imported and built in India, people would complain that it's made in India and that it's been made by underpaid people, and when they finally get products to be built in America, then they complain that it's expensive. You can't have both.
      And, to be fair, this is very reasonnably priced. It's probably going to last very long, it's actually new, and it can be beaten a lot more than a TJ without suffering damage. I mean, a decent CJ-5/CJ-7 is probably going to cost about the same, and while it will be road legal, it won't be new, have a warranty, or be as capable to deal with trouble as much as that thing. You have to remember that a CJ-5/CJ-7 is already 40 years old.

    • @abhilashsajeev.k1679
      @abhilashsajeev.k1679 6 лет назад +1

      Dude .. u cant tow 3000 pounds on coils.

    • @nickopedia5669
      @nickopedia5669 6 лет назад

      @Abhilash Sajeev. K
      You're right. You can tow 5000 lbs on coils.

    • @abhilashsajeev.k1679
      @abhilashsajeev.k1679 6 лет назад

      @@nickopedia5669 .... yes ... u can do even more. But dont expect this price tag.

  • @nikis7742
    @nikis7742 2 года назад

    Mahindra has history of jeeps and has best record in India in jeeps whether engine sturdiness or maintenance unbeatable in commercial mini segments too