Epic Off-Road Smackdown: Can the Classic Mahindra Roxor Beat the Polaris Ranger and Honda Pioneer?
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- (www.TFLoffroad.com) Off-Road Smackdown: Can the Classic Mahindra Roxor Beat the Polaris Ranger and Honda Pioneer?
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Steve also does a complete walk around of the Roxor here: ruclips.net/video/kwCDqQMKtsw/видео.html
How much does cab and heater jack up the prices of the Honda and Polaris. That wasn't really fair not to include that.
TFLoffroad Can you all do the John Deere Gator reveiw!?
About time TFL review the Machindra Roxor. Now, compare it with the actual Jeep Willys. The guy driving the Roxor through the mud/ice pit doesn't know how to off-road. Smh...Roxor for the win though. It was the one that broke all of the ice for the other side-by-sides. Fyi, no one rides on traiks a full straight 8 hours. They take breaks in between the trail riding. Don't be a wuss, man up.
There are two different types of locking diffs on Roxors accessory page. Time for a retest.
Sir have you driven or do you have any video's on the Orieon Reeper made in USA. It is street legal. My email is ajdixies@gmail.com. Please let me know what you think about the REEPER
The Roxor actually broke the ice bro....
You guys should review the oreion reeper
@@williambenfield9604why it's his wish what video 📹 he wants to make of
Literally ROXOR cleared the way for other vehicles in that muddy swamp...!
I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂😂
@@eJohndoe Lol, Neanderthals (Cave men)
@@eJohndoe Let me explain,which is because your mainstream western media shows only what we are not to you ppl and not the real side of us. Hence wherever necessary we turn into Journalist period
Do you have any more questions mr super man?
@@eJohndoe why are u jealous 😂
@@eJohndoe Yes we are Indians what you are ancient ape??
Props to India for making one damn fine machine. Respect.
Thanks buddy
you miss more buddy
Well they have been making the world's number one tractor brand for 20+ years. You should look into the cool stuff they make that we can't get in the USA. They also make their own version of the Jeep Wrangler, since they actually bought the rights to the Willie's Jeep design from Kaiser in like the 70s or something.
yes they have great CARS all over this world But the US? to good of a fuel economy for our politicians.
Roxor is a illegitimate grand child of Willis jeep.
Not sure why you did this comparison. The Roxor isn't built to be a toy. It's more for work.
Open diffs and street tires were really slowing it down.
@@hvguy Yup, if they had front, rear or locking all them then it would make up for ground clearance.
Sorry but not a good comparison, put a lift on the Roxor and tires that are like those on the side by sides then run them.
Definitely! You can get a factory 3" lift. That and larger, more aggressive tires would completely change it's capabilities. When I consider the other UTVs, the Roxor is far and away my favorite!
the new factory lift and 4x4 roxr would kick ass in this situation
The Mahindra is really a working vehicle - something you can load up and put to work on a ranch, farm, forestry, etc. It won't play as wild as the toys do, but the toys would fall apart doing what the Roxor could.
That's the impression I get, too.
There's talk of adding PTO capabilities which would make it a fantastic tool. I'm waiting to buy one if they do.
Philip550c they have pto
Philip550c I think they already have it.
Sure but does it really work any harder than a Ranger? Seems like a Ranger would be more of a functional work horse for what you mentioned.
Mahindra actually owns Pininfarina.. More than 76% of it. Amazing that their products ranges from heavy duty trucks to commercial vehicles to Italian supercar design firm... And all this from a humble Indian company. They have already made history, they just don't brag about their heritage unlike some global brands. Same goes with Tata as well - though they own JLR, they still have their humble ways
I'm impressed that the Roxor can break up and push the ice! Could one of the other SxS do as well from the get go?
Why couldn’t they?
@@bluejar5614 huh?
@@flight2k5 because Pioneer has only 999cc engine and Roxor has 2500cc, Pioneer only have muscular tyres and light weight body, than Roxor. You can't see that.
Yes Roxor has a powerful engine.
"The Roxor doesnt feel like a traditional side by side." No kidding, it's a jeep.
This here. This clown comparing a Jeep to a SxS is a joke.
See seems better comparing bacon and greezy food. Man needs some self respect.
@@Sonex1542 A lot of people are comparing these machines to see what they want and need in a machine. I don't see a problem with it , I was curious about a comparison like this myself.
It's actually more "Jeep" than a Chrysler Fiat "Jeep" it's is literally the vehicle Jeep should be manufacturing strip down no frills actually looks like a Jeep....
It's not a Jeep. It's a CJ
Jason Parker it has zero domestic content - mahi dra is an india POS
These units aren't even in the same class. Comparing the Roxor to the current UTV’s is like comparing a Chihuahua to a working dog. One is quick, agile, noisy and fun to ‘play’ with and the other will perform its duties with capability and determination. I will never go back to a plastic, ear drum busting, over rev’d, heat producing, rubber band drive unit. My Rhino has 19,000 miles on it and is completely worn out. Just about everything has been fixed or replaced. And I'm tired of having to dismantle plastic to add oil every 250 miles. The Roxor will have that kind of milage and just need a few oil changes. I have one and I love my Roxor, so I am speaking from the experience of having both. I was looking at replacing my Rhino and I was leaning towards the Honda Pioneer, but then I came across the Roxor and I am glad I did before I bought a Pioneer.
I agree. I want one so bad. They don’t build anything that strong nowadays. This is so much more
Technically that Honda Pioneer has a gear on gear transmission so it's worlds better than the rubber band in the Polaris.
My uncle owns one of these on his farm. Its a work horse and works so much more then the old side by side he has. Is it as comfortable, hell no but its a tank.
That 3 inch Ice in that pit that the Roxor busted up would have stopped those SxS's cold. Plus probably caused a bunch of damage to CV's and fancy boy plastic.
He did a video of that using the honda, it did great.
true
Haven't seen roxor jumping few feet of the ground like these sxs. Sxs are meant to send it and will jump over anything at full speed and go over ruts and they do it with ease and they aren't meant for somebody to brag about their leaf springs and solid axles.
and roxor has open diffs all other have lsd or locker.
@@dkdanis1340 And Roxor aren't meant to jump over anything, but crawl over any obstacles and with load, if needed.
The Roxor is basically a diesel CJ2a with a more open door area.... what's not to love?
Go to Red,White & Roxor THEN COMPARE
More like a CJ5 or CJ7.
The fact that it's not street legal, has one forth the power of a jeep, is overpriced, open diffs, low ground clearance, rides rough, constantly gets stuck so you drive almost as much in reverse as forward. That's about it.
@@DontWatchProductionsmime is street legal and tuned for 250 lb ft of torque. More of a jeep than any overpriced FCA/Chrysler product is.
@@DontWatchProductionsmy semi arid county legalized side by sides for road use so all id have to do is install blinkers basically i guess
Next test : Pulling, towing, tug of war etc...
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Let's see where those kids stand..😉
Hey MB is sporting Mahindra
Shi keh rha hai bhai 🚩 🫱🏼🫲🏻🇮🇳
I am in love with these Roxors especially since I found out that you can put one of those soft tops and a heater in them
I have the soft top and heater, I also have a snow plow and when you get that little diesel working, it throws some good heat. Nice and warm in there plowing in the bush at -20ºC. There are a couple videos of the Roxor on my page. There is one of the soft cab install. I heard a hard cab is in the works.
Roxor is a brrand new old Willly's Jeep ! Not a side by side. . Roxor named side by side just for law and registrations .
Bingo!
Its easily to be made into street legal for approx 150 USD and the work yourself... or if money is nothing but a thang you can pay the dealer 1 grand to do the same thing off 150 + 850 in labor😂
@@TK-oe1xm the roxor does not meet Federal Emissions Standards with the diesel engine. You would either have to put a DEF system on it or swap the diesel motor for an EPA approved gas engine. A lot more than $150
@@JT-xb6bg depends on the state. In some states, they're actually street legal as a UTV if you get a license plate, front turn signals, side mirrors, etc.
@@zadokmotorfreight2423 yupp. Sorry Cali and NY. We don't even have emissions testing in half of Georgia's counties
So you put the vehicle with least ground clearance and a straight bumper to go first and them complain how it didn't go through?? I would like to see the Polaris and honda to try break the ice and go through..
Not to mention it's on AT suv tires, vs ATV tires on the others.
Yeah !
But when the ice was cleared the utvs were just taking a stroll, the Roxor needed two runs without the ice...
Bro those plastic rich-men toys would break apart then xd
The Roxor is a truck, the others aren’t. That Roxor will be running years after those computerized rigs are in a junkyard. People will weld and cobble them back to running order with common automotive parts. See if your local Honda dealer will have the parts for that SxS in 15 years. It may be trouble finding original Indian pieces for the Roxor, but I’ll bet aftermarket Jeep parts can be made to work.
THE DAMN ROXOR JUST NEED SOME TIRES‼️
@@trp2413 yeah
That's true
Yeah and we'll see where will those toys stand
And diffs
I love the Roxor, it's the right vehicle for me. I used it both onroad and offroad , with a little modification from my part. I used to pull a trailer carrying water and stuff upto 1.5 tons and it does its job perfectly. Its been 2 years now and no problem whatsoever.
I think these guys are too young to know what a CJ is. Son thats what grandpa went to war with...Its not a side by side, its a military troop transport for 50 years.
KarthikSoun you might want to check your facts about that. CJ,s were not used in WW2. that was the flat fender Jeeps. CJ,s were however used in Korea and to also in Vietnam. these things are just a new version of a side by side.
Lilorbie it's a replica of a Willy's and they were the ones in ww2 don't be a asshole like the fuckheads in this video.
@@KlineFarmchannel true.
What do kids know about this
They weren't even born then.
Nope,it is a cj5 clone!
lilorbie lilorbie the cj was a replica of the ww2 Jeep, with a different grill and a few other things, so pretty much the same
the irony is the Roxor is probably going to last longer than anything made by the big three nowadays...modern trucks feel like they are built to last 5 maybe 10 years
@Klaus Van Heusen I think he means more like 2010 and up. I purchased a 2018 Chevy Silverado for $38k out the door and they have to replace the tranny and torque converter already with only 20000 miles. I have two 1995 Chevy 1500s and they still run and shift great each with over 300,000. The new Fords are not any better. If it was possible to make the Roxor road legal I would purchase one in a heartbeat over anything Jeep puts out today. It is sad how far American cars have fallen.
@Klaus Van Heusen yes it last longer because it's made in India , Indians don't care about their cars so manufacturers try to make the cars with good quality parts , I have seen thar from the mid 80's still run properly without any maintenance
I have a fleet of 4x4 Ford super duties 1999 thru 2006 all above 300k, automatics, 5.4 gas, 3 4R100 and 1 5R110W F350 with a 3valve motor. Pull skid steers all summer and run plows all winter. Havent touched the drive train in any of them. You comment is grossly misguided. Would love to see the results of that usage with anything Japan has to offer. Crap!!!
@@dmunnone5757 crazy my 2008 Japanese Toyota tundra with the 5.7l is at 320k and literally have only changed the oil period. And I drag around my 30' gooseneck and case 580m backhoe pretty much daily. Have fun replacing those coil packs. The only way a ford's going over 200k is if you're grandpa'ing it around your small town at 45mph. Their auto transmissions are junk. The motor is under powered junk. I've owned them. The only motor ford's used after 1996 that isn't junk is the 7.3 power stroke but the e4od trans lol is junk. I'll go as far as to saying the new 5.0 is decent but after driving one for a week I'd still pick my tundra. Oh and I live in Houston TX so that backhoe behind me is torture in this 90mph stop and go hell.... I love the look on the guys faces driving their Cummins diesels they don't need when their doors get blown off by a loaded down half ton. Best part, I can use over drive fully loaded.. Real best part... I can beat my buddies rt charger in the 1/8 mile..
If the roxor is anything like the Joyner buggies I'll be adding it to my collection. I've found the real problem to be Noone knows how to drive a standard.. And weld the spider gears.. Homemade locker lol..
Mahindra opens Detroit’s first car making plant in 25 years
That's not really accurate, they are brought in from India as knock down kits and then final assembly is done in Auburn Hills. I've been on the line.
@@otm646 Bruh they take parts from mahindra thar and assemble in Usa
@@KurianfromIndia bro, Thar is a big car whereas Roxor is a side by side. How can you even make such stupid comment
@@lmaonoobs3779 The roxor that you see here was sold till 2020 in India as the Thar.
@@user-xd6uy1bo9g A roxor was never sold in India. Go and do your homework properly.
Definitely biased! I think the roxor is pretty cool for the right people! Hope it works out.
I still think the Roxor is pretty cool. There's always the complaint that you could "just buy an old jeep," which is true, but I like that it's like a brand new CJ with a diesel engine.
It is cool, but a solid CJ5 or CJ7 has decades of supply chain in spare and OEM parts, aftermarket, and more. Plus it's street legal, the Roxor needs tuning and modifications.
Teo P beside the engine, driveline components are the same Dana axles and t case.
I like the idea of it but don't care for the price along with the fact that I would HAVE TO trailer it. I would most likely want to anyway but being required to sucks.
Unless I can tag it like it's an ATV.
@@MrKeithsandefer
You're correct. But how often do people replace those, unless constantly abused? The engine and transmission, the former in particular, require the most attention. It mostly applies to Willy's era CJs, not the 5s or 7s.
There is a streetleagle kit for $329 and a remap for the engine for $500 that opens the power and top speed. Vivid racing sells it
roxor will go 200k miles between engine rebuilds. the toys are like 10k miles. this isn't even a fair comparison. toy vs. tool
Toy vs Indian toy that looks like tool
ruclips.net/video/Wsv52VhRLqc/видео.html
@@TlcBister the only thing a tug of war shows is weight and grip. nothing else
Aaron LeBlanc So you are saying it’s not a fair comparison but running them down a trail is? But it is exactly what I need. 👍. No more heat producing, ear busting plastic, rubber band drive units that can’t do 20,000 miles with out being totally worn out for me. Been there, done that.
@@TlcBister a tug of war only shows the weight of a vehicle, the Maverick is lighter, thus it will lose. And I believe the reason yours isn't lasting as long as that is one reason, lack of maintenance on the seals and failure to check gaskets. Your rhino is either burning or leaking oil from old age either having not used ethanol free gas and letting it sit, or not using it enough. If your clutches are slipping, that's material fatigue on the primary clutch spring. Fix that and it would be just like you bought it, you keep it as it is, you will complain and say that an Indian built machine with no quality control on it from a company who produced the Willy's for 2 years and was disposed of is better because it's less quality built engine hasn't failed on you yet
roxor cleared the way for other vehicles so the others got their way easier.
It's basically an old school Jeep. You can even make them street legal in certain states from what I've been told.
Roxor doesnt feel like a side by side bacause its a CJ2 Jeep with a modern Diesel engine. I would totally buy one.
Not a cj2 or cj3 being that it is about 3 and inhes longer than a cj7. Also, cj5 and cj7 windshields, roll bars, and dash pads are direct bolt on parts on the roxor. The doors openings are where the extra length comes in at and the only reason you can't use cj7 doors without cutting and stretching them or making a filler panel to take up the space
Polaris Ranger Northstar edition has HVAC
I though mechenically its a cj5 save the motor and tranny and the body was a cj2 I read they used the same parts numbers even for the cj5 to make buyimg parts easier
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its a mini beep. aka mini jeep. just made from metal instead of wood. but yes mach of the jeep design.
Come on man, You are trying to match those toys with Roxor, but you cant. Gasoline engine with belt driven toys are no match to the turbo diesel, real manual transmission with leaf spring setup. Good luck next time.
I can't believe the Roxor weighs 1,000 pounds more than my 2010 Ford Focus Coupe. That's insane. That thing is built like a tank for sure!
I drive a '91 YJ and have fallen in love with the Roxor. It's definitely something I would look in to. Pretty much a CJ build in 2018
Hey All. I have a new Roxor. As well I have had a BRP Defender and a Polaris Ranger. In the end, $600 and I have 4 more inches on my Roxor. $900 and new mudders that are wayyyy better then stock Roxor tires. I’m running 32 inchers now. I tuned the engine for $600. It is a freakin beast!!! My tube plastic sidexsides were continually busting. Don’t think about adding tracks to a Polaris. I bought my Roxor from a Polaris store. Yes, Polaris is fluffy and fun to cruise but now I can tell you my Roxor will blow it away and guess what....it will blow it away for wayyyyy longer then a regular sidexside will last. Really both Ranger and Defender were crap. Blew transmission belts steering components etc etc. My 2 cents
Klaus Van Heusen I’ll take a stock Roxor over anything that needs a belt. Seen to many dragged home over the years if they ran them hard at all. No more rubber band drives for me. The belt ones stand up if you don’t work them in the heat. But my Roxor can run all day working hard. I don’t use mine as a trail Princess, it’s used for hauling wood and soon plowing snow. I have a Western v-Plow going on and have 2 miles of valley road to push, something I would never do with a plastic unit. I couldn’t afford the cab and heater for those things, way overpriced plastic stuff, over Rev’d, heat producing, rubber band drive just can’t handle in the heat or cold. And I don’t need ear plugs anymore. Tired of the screaming hot noisy engine between the seats and all the plastic. I’ll take a 4 cylinder diesel under a steel hood out front where it should be, with a real drive train. And the first things most guys do to a UTV or ATV is a bunch of upgrades, clutches, tires, wheels, exhaust, etc, so why can’t a Roxor owner?
O shit I would buy a roxor and put tracks on it holy shit that would be a low cost bad ass tanklike machine.
p.s. already have a jeep for daily driver/overlander and will be keeping it forever.
@@BenJaminLongTime You might as well buy an argo at that point. A roxor with tracks would be unbearably slow.
Im not sure why a guy wouldn't just but a used jeep.... a-side from the size of it... and the aftermarket is never ending..
Isn't the Roxor also a Diesel? That would make it much more expensive and reliable.
The Roxor, is hands down the winner. Towing? Better. Comfort, better. Weight? Heavier in many cases is a better option. Torque? Better..because torque is where it's at doing work. Drive train and suspension? Based off of proven Willys and CJ designs, better. Lack of electronic devices? Better. All steel construction vs, plastics? Better. The Roxor is a vehicle, the other 2 are toys in my opinion. And price? A new example of what is basically a 50's jeep is somewhat priceless given today's market of overhyped play things. Will the other 2 be viable and in running order in 10 years? Nope, on craigslist for 2500 bux. I feel this will still be running and hold value, better. And it's made in Michigan.
Lmao. The Honda will outlast that made in india junk all day long
@@jessewoody5772 better than us atleast. India is much better
@@buzzlightyear1484 haha
@@jessewoody5772 Don't underestimate made in India products. Mahindra is built like a tank and will last forever.
@@Itachi_Uchia1 The only thing I get from India is Scam calls
When the aftermarket catches up the roxer will be really cool.
Unless you're in a Yugo, every vehicle has some strong ponts and some weak ones. The Roxor would be more valuable to me because it would be easier repaired or modified in the field. Also, the body is sturdier and the diffs could be upgraded with aftermarket changes. A mild lift and taller tires would add clearance.
There's a lot to be said for toughness combined with simplicity.
For sure a little lift and better tires put some lockers in the axles maybe some softer springs and better shocks you're looking at a whole different ride.
You've went from outmatched to damn near equal and it was already 10x on quality and durability!!!
Oh yeah by the way I don't believe that you ever had to wait for Mahindra to come out with differential lockers because it's a Dana 30 front axle, a Dana 44 rear axle, and even has a Dana transfer case and I believe the 5 speed manual transmission is a Dana as well I'm not sure on the transmission though.
The Roxor is a jeep. You'd use it for jeep things. I'm sure there is tons of mods, locking diffs, and easy to get a hold of tires.
Yea it really needs a locking diff
@@wildbill23c I don't know anything about Jeeps really, but it would make a lot of sense. It is a licensed Willys.
i can already picture one of these with full width dana 44s swapped in , lockers , 35 inch tires on a moderate lift , it would be more capable than a new rubicon for 1/4 price. and jumping through the right hoopes , you can easily make it street legal.
@@TheDaltonmichaels it already has Dana 44's . That's the only axle Mahindra licsensed from Dana Spicer.😉
@VK Are you working for FCA?? I am from Indian state Kerala, Idukki district... Here you can see more than 50% of vehicles in Hill areas are Mahindras... They are reliable and less on maintenance cost... You can easily find 30+ year old Mahindra jeeps ferrying passengers and goods in these hill areas with little to no road... So please stop bullsh%$ing...
There is a big difference in the tires as well. The Roxor looks more like a working vehicle on a farm that can haul.
The Roxor will last 50 years the utvs wont
That's the power of a Indian Company Car
Rumi Upadhyay that just totally ripped off an American car company
@@Cj-gd1db which car company bro
@@rumiupadhyay1770 roxor is more jeepier than the jeep itself.
@@namithlokesh3658 u r talking about the Jeep Wrangler right
I laughed so hard at the two wheel drive clutch dump lol that's a diesel for the most part anyone can drive one especially tractors. I want a roxor so bad that's why I'm here . Good video awesome trail for testing videos!!!
It takes real skill to stall a diesel engine by simple clutch dump. :)
The video proven the roxor is not a toy but a working vehicle. What about the two toys when you have to tow?
Feel like you compare a 5 ton truck to a Ferrari on the speed track.
Excellent... Nothing to say more..
Exactly Roxor is not actually a sxs but Mahindra used the SxS tag to get into North American market it's more like a modern diesel version of Cj (as some comments say) and it's perfect for farmlands
Have an almost identical Roxor as this. Even the same color. Love it. Quality engine meant to last and not scream all day. No sloppy cvt either.
Go Roxor. Now make it street legal. Even if it is non freeway
It takes a golf cart guy to call a 3100 pound jeep heavy! A jeep guy would call that light
If I got all these three vehicles then I definitely gonna to choose Roxor .
Reasons:
Roxor look good and manly and can use as a Jeep for family. It also look very good in city roads . You can take your girlfriend in Roxor without any problems . Other two vehicles look like a junk machine for backyard .
Second Roxor had a lot of options for modification. Other two vehicles had not much room for modification. It is already modified to do its maximum off-road capability. But Roxor still had room for modifications, Just purchase big mud terrain tyres, lift kit and good suspension. Then Roxor will perform much better and will look far better than other two shit junk machine.
Nothing else . Roxor win .
You can tune up the eninge to get more horses under the hood too, if you want.
Born in 777 bc 😂😂
see the roxer price , you ♡s more
The Mahindra is perfect for a ranch or a farm. Towing hay from the field to the barn, carrying people from one field to another on benched trailers, towing produce and other stuff. If it’s used productively, it’ll pay for itself over time. The other machines are all fun and games.
Absolutely, that was my thought as well. That's what lots of the WWII "Jeeps" ended up doing, if I understand properly. www.cj3a.info/cj3a/farmjeep/farmjeep.jpg
Al Fu yeah! It's a cute little work horse....and it'll be your girl throughout your life.
Al Fu pickup truck is the word your looking for
Al Fu the mahindra is a morphidite pos with little practical use why have a that over a pickup that has real windows and doors radio ac heater seats that werent specd from your local park
If you really want a workhorse, just buy an older compact truck like a ranger or s10. Might need to spend a couple grand on lift and tires , lockers as well. You already have a full cab.
You can try and tell me how great the other side by side's performance is.... but I'm not convinced they will be around in 20 years. The Mahindra on the other hand might.
My Grandpa owned a 1990 Mahindra MM775. He drove it for around 15 years before selling it to a family friend who now uses it in his farm. Last I checked, it still runs.
I own all new Mahindra Thar 2020 in India. Drove 20000 kms in 8 months with long road trip across every corner of India. Amazing machine.
I love these types of comparisons, but they always have one fatal flaw.. Tires. You can’t accurately compare suspension systems, drive lines, power, and everything else in the hills, mud, and in the tough stuff if they all have different tires. That’s where everything else comes together and meets the dirt. An entire vehicle can seem inferior just by having a less capable tire. You can always compare numbers, like power, ground clearance etc., but to compare drivability and a vehicles overall performance in similar conditions, they need to all run the same tire.
AV8R Tom although that may be true we have to except that publications only use what they are provided with by the manufacturer or dealer... and it is often possible to get one brand in all the needed sizes for a test. Those tires would add a few grand per video to their expenses.
Totally understand. Great video still!!!
Mxa is good about changing all tires to one brand
Roxor needs a lot more than tires to be competitive.
While I agree with your sentiment, the Roxor is obviously inferior either way. Lacking locking differentials is a huge issue. You could have swapped the tires and the Polaris/Honda would still have superior traction.
Looks like the Roxor would be 100% more fun to DRIVE though!! 90% of Americans can’t drive a manual on or off-road!! I say point Roxor!!
Yes, and thats why almost all the car manufacturers are doing away with manual transmissions. Cool Video
Ain’t it sad, manuals really are pretty easy to drive, and such fun!
Does look like it’d be fun. Some lockers and appropriate tires would be nice though. Manual trans is cool.
@@inventoroftoast good luck racing with roxer
Off roading with manual is very hard... it is a grand challenge for Automatic lover like me
Roxor : probably a good machine for snow plowing my driveway
Great video. I have never heard of the Roxor but I love it now. You put it through every test I could think of.
Put some mud tires and lockers on and do it again.
Roxor vs Rzr 1000 Race... ruclips.net/video/d1BzHN8TUKA/видео.html
And swap out the bumper with a cutout. Just like everyone keeps saying, it’s factory spec’d as a TOOL not a toy.
Just like the biased review that got yall blacklisted by Subaru this one is also incredibly slanted against Mahindra. A "fair" comparison would be against a diesel Polaris Ranger, Kawasaki Mule, or Kubota RTV since they are all diesel powered tools instead of toys. Anyone that intended to use the Roxor like you did would change the tires and add locking diffs which is easy to do considering how close Mahindra stayed to Jeep specs. Warn components are literally plug and play. If you are using it to haul hay bales around a farm it is perfect right off the show room floor and in that situation it absolutely dominates the other two. It tows more and the mechanicals will outlast the others. We have a Ranger XP and it is nothing but squeaks, rattles, and component failure and aren't much cheaper than the Roxor. They can even be optioned up to be more expensive.
Can you explain the blacklisting? I do not understand.
www.tflcar.com/2016/08/why-we-dont-review-subarus-top-questions-answered/. They left traction control on for a 2015 Outback so it would fail their test, damaging it in the process. Subaru hasn't provided them any vehicles since.
Your comparing apples to elephants. Not even in the same game they are. No kidding it feels different than the side by sides. It’s a 4x4 vehicle. The others are nothing more than mini trophy cars.
It's like comparing 1970's weed, to today's strains. 😁
People buying Roxer for side by side is really not correct ...It was given side by side tag by mahindra so that it could enter into American market ....Roxor is seriously worker vehicle which can work in heavy duty areas and some what partial enjoyment of side by side ...so make your expectation straight before buying this reliable vehicle!!!
Plus is cab and heat really gonna make the price of the Honda and Polaris go up tremendously
Ravindra Singh The Roxor is old tech that worked on the 50’s. the newer vehicles are just better in every way. There is a reason that companies moved on from cheese cutters, leaf springs and poor ergonomics. The Roxor looks cool but that is the only thing it has going for it. You would have to have rocks in your head to purchase what is essentially an ancient Jeep.
@@FJUH same thing i am saying ...why to compare a basic vehicle with those premium side by side .....roxor is half the price...if you want simple vehicle for work purpose at half the price it is roxor for you .....it is hard reliable vehicle
@@FJUH I must have rocks in my head. lol. I bought one to replace my Rhino cause it is totally worn out in only 19,000 miles of work. I have replaced rear spindles, axles, brakes, tires, belts, wheel bearings, exhaust system, fuel pumps, the complete front end and steering components. All in 19,000 miles. I don't think I will have to do that kind of work to a Roxor in 100,000 miles. Comparing the Roxor to a plastic UTV is like comparing a Chihuahua to a Bulldog.
@Prranjal Shrivaastav buddy please chk ur prices ...what i know there is steep difference in prices
Roxor looks like daddy showing his two kids how to hunt in jungles.
Just give roxor some nice pair of rubber and diff from mahindra thar.
It can tow those two babies anyday, all day.
Not even close
More like the first time grandpa trying to show he still got it
@@aaronleblanc540 ...and does.
It does what the other 2 do, only reliably.
@@robspear03 god, you're just like the last guy, I went onto the forums for this thing and it's littered with problems you just won't admit, transmission being one of them, so no
@@aaronleblanc540 at least it has a transmission, torque converters are for go karts and slightly better than useless offroad.
I just hope someday i am able to buy a ROXOR! I love that Jeep...!
You can get 3 different lockers for front and rear. I think some guys have been pampered and forget what real off roading was like. Fun!
Ya for 15k+. You can build an awesome CJ. And be street legal. That being said. I can see these Roxors doing serious work on Ranches for years and years. Trouble free.
One word why the Roxor is better than all the others..."DIESEL". That little turbo diesel will be around long, long after the others are in the junkyard. With that said,I'll still take side by side!
Another good word,,,, heater,,,, I like to stay warm. Do any side by sides come with a heater ?
@@darkpassenger7064 I added a soft cab and heater to mine. The accessories are listed at roxoroffroad.com
Another one is no rubber band
Uhh... the ranger does have a diesel model. It's 5 grand less than the roxor. And you can get a full hard cab and heaters in them.
@@dre04mach but it's a unreliable and powerless diesel engine
Toys vs tools. "Doesnt feel like a traditional side by side." Its a jeep my dude, what you expect? Durrrr
I worked at an off-road business. Durham off-road adventures. The roxor is the best side by side on the market, because it's a jeep. Off-road tires, locking differential, four inch lift off-road springs and it will embarrass every other vehicle trying to do anything off-road. Needs a snorkel to literally do everything
My income does not allow me to have a toy. The Mahindra can be made street legal in my state. That means I can drive it anywhere I want to, Using diesel fuel for around 40-45 mgp, and hit the trails for hunting or just fun too. The other 2 vehicles you listed are not able to do the same or haul my boat or trailer weight like the Roxor. The roxor's competition for me is the Orieon Reeper. Bt the way Sir Awesome Video...Thank you very much
To be fair. Roxor isn't a pure trail vehicle, it's meant for what you mentioned in your comment and it will perform well enough trails too.
I this comparison it had a big disadvantage as it's using a regular tyres on a trail.
I saw another video on the Roxor and he had installed a 4 inch lift kit, warner lockers front and back and 33 inch tires. More money again however I am sure all of that would make a huge difference. The Orieon Reeper has a lot of these perks standard
I understand your point however if you simply disconnect the speedometer or by a ecu chip you can drive 80 mph. You can by a windshield with wipers from Mahindra and installation of turn signals is not complicated. Warren hub locks take care of the open axle issue... all at a cost...That is why I May purchase a Orienon Reeper which is equipped ROAD READY. Love the Diesel motor in the Roxor.
Come to India with 20000dollers u will get an Mahindra Thar.
What’s nice is that the Roxor gets itself out of every situation it gets in on its own
Now they need to compar the Roxo and the side by sides doing farm and Ranch work like towing trailers full of hay bails day in and day out
It doesn't feel like a traditional side-by-side because it's a bloody CJ.
When you get the Roxor's tires off the ground and lose traction, just start pushing and releasing the brake peddle and it will cause both tires to try and spin. Like if the rear is spinning one tire, pull and release the E-brake to get the other tire pulling..
Put a 3 inch lift on that roxor with some mud terrains and it will do verrry good
Niko Lacasse also needs lockers front and rear!
That's what I'm saying too! Lockers, small lift and beefy tires and this thing would be unstoppable.
Okie Joe even just a limited slip diff
Niko Lacasse and ez lockers
Two different locking diffs on Roxors website. Wonder why he said not available yet.
The newer model roxors have all sorts of options including full lockers. You can now get them tuned and they make some pretty serious power. However, I don't think of the roxor as a "trail" rig, whatsoever. To me, this is a farm/ranch/large property, utility vehicle. Because of the weight, low end torque, and the way its built, it will do work side by sides, can only attempt. And it will do it rather easily. When I think of the roxor, the last thing I think of is, "recreation". To me, it's a tool; a work vehicle. I think the difference would be, in a roxor, you DO work, but can have SOME fun with it. And that's on a very limited basis. When I think of utility side by sides, I think of machines that can do LIGHT work and can quite readily have some fun.
To me they are just completely different animals. Ya know, comebto think about it, I've never even heard of anyone including or comparing the roxor with side by sides. So, there's that as well.
It's a frickin stick shift. Ok, now I want one
its like comparing tools with toys
Learn to respect and give credit
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The sidexside's tested are more of a work vehicle then a toy vehicle. If they had the more sport/toy Utv's out there they would make all three of those tested look like shit.
A Ranger is a tool, not a toy.
I am ...also India ..
Why Indians ... Get Soo proud ....
Without investment ?
Roxor is not exclusively made for sidebyside. It is kind of forced sidebyside. So comparing it with established sidebyside doesnt make any sense. Again it is not just driving along the trails. there are so many things you want do like snow plowing etc. see you need roxor for ice breaking and making a path for others. If you do the tug of war, roxor can pull three of these sidebyside. the diesel engine in roxor is a proven motor sold in big numbers. They are capable of clocking 600000 + km before rebuild. you can rebuild it after that. those gasoline engines are simply no match.
Since the Roxor uses the well known Dana style axles, lockers for them are an easy install. Tires can also be upgraded to traditional Jeep offroad sizes like 32's or 44's. You can also use standard leaf spring lift kits. It has what a lot of Jeep owners always wanted. A diesel.
The Roxor approximates a Willys, an aspiration to be simple and rugged. The fact that a 40’s base design is keping up with toys in the 2018’s speaks volumes of its rugged design (from way back). The prices may be the same, but you will get a lot from these Roxors, hands down. Also, the maintenance cost for the DYI guy would be dirt cheap. Having said that, Mahindra must work for a lower price. Toyota was in these shoes in the 70’ and the 80’s look what persistence got them. Stay the course, learn and improve!
roxor needs a bit more ground clearance more aggressive tires and a front and rear locker
S Winn or just buy a RZR 1000 highlifter for the same price and be done with it.
@@jdub229r RZR doesn't come with a turbo diesel
According to the Roxor configurator ( www.roxoroffroad.com/build-vehicle ), locking front and rear differentials are now an option. No new tire choices though. That would be one of the few changes I'd make right away.
Sledge Yeah add like 4 grand. It’s a cool machine but you’re getting dangerously close to the price real wrangler you can’t drive on the road.
Actually, you can override the speed governor simply by removing a single fuse.
Awesome video, great information to take in. Seems the Roxor is better suited for ranchers than weekend warriors
Tim Fox I grew up on a 300,000 acre ranch. The roxor is the stupidest thing I have ever seen for the farm. Every rancher I know would spend a couple grand on an old truck before dropping close to 30k on this thing. It’s not big enough to haul feed, or protect you from an angry bull. 100% useless to any rancher or farmer. I could build a real cj5 to be exactly what I need for less than this junker.
$30,000 ? I read the price was actually half that? Are they more expensive in Canada?
The Mad Gentleman I’m about as far from Canada as you can get and still be in North America. Don’t know what final price ended up being, just what the dealers guessed before they actually came out. They guessed 25-30k, more with options. I’ve looked at them, very little is interchangeable with real Jeeps. Everything is different. Not a production axle that has gears and traction aids available on the market. Trans parts are only sold through mahindra and are very overpriced. It’s cheaper and better to get an old Jeep and to build it into what you want.
@@adamr9215 They start at $16k, not too hard to figure that out. They are clearly not marketing to the ranch crowd, I would agree with that.
Really appreciate the even-handed review! Seems as though Roxor might excel as a hybrid farm/work vehicle with some off-road pleasure capability. But if FUN is your primary objective ...maybe not the machine for you. Would LOVE to see a high-miles endurance, practical life-of-vehicle/cost of ownership comparison by someone as straight forward as you appear to have been. Thx again!
I’m glad you mentioned tires . I’m surprised those BFG all terrains got as far as they did in the first place. I use to run 35” KO’s on my truck and was always getting stuck in mud. I switched to stocks wheels and Michelin Defender LT truck tires and they do way better in muddy situations than the BFG’s ever did. I believe all terrains are just a look good gimmick anyways .
Put a snow plow on the front of each one and see how they do. Pull a trailer of square bails with each one.
Ford PowerSmoke I have a snow plow sitting beside my Roxor. I’m just waiting for the mount and snow. Once it is all set up I will be adding a video to my page. It’ll kick ass compared to those plastic ones. 👍
okay ranger is buggy and the pioneer is a buggy aswell. the roxor is a jeep
I really appreciate you showing the roxor in serious off roading conditions, it needs a lift and desperately needs lockers. And for comparing to a side by side this was a good video. I'll agree that price is a little high. But you also missing the entire point of this vehicle imo. You are comparing apples to oranges. The ride quality sucks yes, but those leaf springs are going to likely survive the entire lifetime of the vehicle. The idea behind many parts of this vehicle are to make it dummy proof and the ultimate in reliability. People who want the roxor, want a jeep cj or willys that is already built for them (mostly) but isn't so expensive. No belt drives, easy to work on, extremely customizable and very compatible with jeep parts. This vehicle isn't for bombing trails in my mind, and thats certainly not what got it on my radar. Its utility, boxed steel frame, solid axles, and turbo diesel engine are why i want this vehicle. I have diesel storage tanks on my farm that i can use to fuel this type of vehicle in an emergency if fuel was not available. The leaf springs likely won't fail, and its no frills build lends it to have the least failure points possible. Granted maybe i'm being harsh too, i don't own a side by side. It just depends on what you're using it for. But don't think that i think your review is bad, because it has much value in showcasing the actual off-road capabilities of the roxor, and to showcase some of the downsides a roxor owner will have to tackle. So thank you for the review.
I REALLY appreciate this video! As stated, the tires on the Roxor were the biggest detriment during the ice breaking event. I like the Roxor as it would be reminiscent of my days in my first 4x4 - 1972 Dodge Power Wagon with 4 speed manual, granny low. A fully decked out (with heat & A/C), street legalized Roxor would be about $30k, a base Jeep Wrangler starts at $30k. The wheelbase is the same between the two, but the Roxor is 11" narrower. The video "Roxor Carnage & Bogging" shows what a difference tires make even with open diffs. They do have 5.5 inch lift kits. As with all vehicles, there are alot of performance mods available. If I didn't get Roxor, my 2nd choice would be a 2 seat Polaris General.
I would have liked to see the ranger trying to break that ice...
BadAssEngineering yup! So do I.
@@andychauhan6544 I don't think it can. Roxor is a heavy lifter. But ground clearance is an issue bit the comparison is a bit questionable here as these vehicles are just not the same.
Like it's just a different kinda sxs.
I’d like to see the Ranger transmission belt last as long as the two other machines in this video!
Surprised the Polaris didn't break a trans. (It's one of their failure prone parts)
Yeah, hope the ice doesn't push against all the plastic as you blast through.
tldr: Roxor is for work
Those Utv's are more for working too, not for play.
I think this comparison downplays the broader versatility of the Roxor, which is less specialized than those other SXS. With so many people modding & customizing their Roxors, a comparison against different customized versions could be very useful. I'd love to see a comparison of 3 different customized Roxors, which have each been customized in different ways, perhaps for different specializations.
Having driven the Indian variant of the ROXOR, the Thar, I should say an hour trip off road is enough for your hand muscles. We also had some senior citezens from mahindra here. The Major and Commander. I live in the Southern Part of India, Specifically in the Mountain Ranges of Kerala. This thing is the king here.
Not having a locking diff really killed it for that mud hole. Plus I can't understand why they put road tires on a vehicle that's not road legal.
Do people forget Mahindra makes a regular side by side to
Justin Watts yup. The retriever is a very nice SxS as well. Actually the company intimidator makes the mahindra utvs.
And they're junk. The main reason they made the roxor is to try to get rid of those
@ishant 7 I've seen the Mahindra THAR, I do not think it's very good, especially their overland edition with a fake snorkel and massive tires with no lift
Aaron LeBlanc the roxors have been in India sence 1947 like jeep theu just wherent in america tell know it looks like the cj7 in my opinion
Do a low speed down hill, with a loaded trailer. I wanted to see some work done withthem.
This may be what made FCA nervous
Even squeaks on full lock like an old cj. :)
Roxor is a vehicle for work,easy to fix by your self and reliable(due to simplicity).But,it needs 235/85R16 m/t tyres,lockers,a heater and some work in the interior.And they have to cut the price in half.Otherwise it is not going to sale.
The price is comparable to the Polaris Ranger, and it's cheaper than any new car out there. Really not so bad for what you get.
215/85r16. cookie cutter m/t!
Have been enjoying your videos, Keep them coming :)
A big lift and large tires and lockers💜
The Roxor is a jeep. Plain and simple. Its a classic (outdated) design. Honestly alot of improvements could be made to a roxor cheaply. Its a diesel. Its liquid cooled as well. Heat could be installed. A decent tune, and a stouter clutch pack would put you at freeway speed. And another thing is that the roxor is the same as the Thar, a street legal 170hp tuned identical powerplant and stouter trans.. So? The take away is that you're buying a street vehicle that isnt titled as such.
No, it is not a Jeep. It is a Roxor. It may resemble a Jeep, but it is a Roxor. Not a jeep.
@@darkpassenger7064 mahindra was sold rights to build jeeps. For all intents and purposes its a clone of an old cj/willys jeep.
Check out the KOH (king of hammer) Roxor ❗️
Grandpa went to the World War 2 in one of these, and won it. Rest are history.