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A wise man once said "a person with a car with many issues is either a Masochist or a RUclipsr" - I think we've worked out that Elliot is both - great video as ever
I love that 😂
coming down on the Masochist end of the Scale here Elliot , Heck of a job getting that Turbo out- Well done Guys!
Persistence paid off
When you see engines and subframes being installed at the factory and then the struggles getting one component off it makes me wonder if engine out is easier in the long run
Nice presenting Elliot 🏴🇺🇸🏁
@@ax1066a-ghd2 Masochist ?
@@ax1066a-ghd2 I used to do that too, hanging on to cars that realistically should have been scrapped, now decent cars that work - I know I'm a heretic
Please do not quit. It is good content man. Probably my favorite car on your channel since the hellcat. That car was a total keeper. Wish you had kept it….I bet you think so as well.
I have been into the 92-94 Audi S4 for ever, also the 95 Audi S6 they are very similar cars and both share the AAN 20vt inline 5cyl turbo.
The motor is legendary and Volvo stayed in the 5cyl game longer than Audi. The V70R runs the k24 7400 from borgwarner. A bunch of Audi guys run a modified version of that turbo and make amazing power without sacrificing spool. My newest edition and current keeper status car came home March and is a 93 S4 with a nice gtx3071 with custom software. Get your maintenance done and crank up the boost with a little exhaust work. You will get hooked and your channel will approve.
Peace!
I love the k24 on my T5 2.4
That turbo coolant line has two copper washers, which are good at absorbing shock from the impact gun. That's probably why they were so difficult to remove. They don't take much torque, I believe it's 25nm. I usually remove them no problem with hand tools.
I tried it with a hand tool first and it didn't budge! But good to know for the future.
@@ElliottAlvis Welp, somebody must have been there before You then :)
Always happy for more Volvo content.
Just bought an 850 T5 manual!
Congratulations on your purchase, thanks for watching!
Rare car hold onto it. Have about $13,000 into my 1 of 361 1998 s70 t5 manual. Including an 04 rn motor, bigger turbo, dw fuel pump, dw800 injectors, 3" catless turboback, poly everything mounts bushings etc, bc racing coilovers, 11lbs flywheel with Audi rs2 race clutch, and much more. They are so much fun to drive.
Man… If that car didn’t find you, it would be gone as a partscar, you really saved a Nordic gem.
Hope it treats you well after this, it truly is a fantastic family car.
Greeting from Sweden 🇸🇪
This car wouldn't have been long for this world, thats for sure. Thanks for watching all the way from Sweden!
Here for the Volvo content, I love this car!
I'm trying to love it too!
It's hilarious to watch how paralleled your repairs and experience are to my own v70r I bought early last year. AWD issue, SAS repair, PCV, brakes, so many things I've done just to see a video from you a few weeks after. Important note, the listed way in VIDA to bleed the brakes is actually opposite the normal bleed process, starting with front left inner caliper, then going inner to outter caliper on each, finishing on the rear right. Something that also helped my pedal feel was "burping" the abs/bcm. Build pressure with the pedal same as bleeding the brakes, then crack the lines going to the bcm. I think there was a good video on here from Peppermint of the process
Your uncle is awesome! Dallas is built like a pro wrestler, good to have someone like that around. Well done!
I can't wait to tell Dallas you said that 😂. I am so thankful for the great help I have though! Good to hear from you Paul!
@@ElliottAlvis Hahaa! If he gets a big head over it, then it's your fault, not mine.
Your uncle is a G 👍 And thank you for saving a V70R!
Ah, nothing like turbo trials and tribulations to make for good RUclips content, Elliott! The motto for you, Uncle Glen, and Dallas should be, “Never give up, never surrender!” (No matter how many tools it takes! Lol!). Great work. I always love your sense of humor!
Thanks mom! Good alliteration there at the beginning!
@@ElliottAlvis I didn't know what alliteration meant until I just looked it up! I try to write cute comments, but I sound like an imbecile compared to the Alvis's.
You raised a great son there Mrs. Alvis!
It is fun working on old Volvos with a great community behind it. I just replaced rusted calipers, rotors, pads and front brake lines for 10 hours on Saturday. As bad as it was, it was fun to do on a 1995 T5R.
Keep at it Elliott!! The cat is counting on you so he can take Spaceball One for a drive soon!! LOL Seriously, LOTS of work I never ever want to do/try myself. Thanks for reminding me why I pay a professional to do this kind of work (ok, any kind of work) on my rides. Haha. Until the turbo returns.....
Same here! My new daily is in the shop right now getting some love because I don’t trust myself to mess with it and not screw it up. 😆
Impressed you were able to finagle the turbo out through the top! When I had my S60R I was contemplating doing the same job but I only ever saw people taking out the angle gear and dropping it from the bottom. Part of my motivation to sell the thing. Nice to see it can be done with 3 tools and a table full of weird tools lol!
As someone who owns a basket case S60 R with a lot of similar issues that you've had, this series equally makes me want to laugh and cry
I feel you man... My S60R was in my Fathers garage for a few weeks and a mouse had chewed through the wiring loom and chewed the wires on my 4C Struts... it broke my heart. but I made loads of money as I wish I was like you and I got it fixed abd got back to enjoying it again. Push through the pain brother... she looks amazing... it only gets better. Lots of love to Team EA.
Glad to hear you got yours sorted. Thanks for the support Roheet!
Probably just disintegrated
If it has an intercooler , you had better take it out and clean it out, because the oil will usually be from the inlet side seeing the higher pressure is on the exhaust side.
Nothing like having the "ultimate grill cheese" and the Motory Notary for lunchtime entertainment! I'm glad you were able to loosen your nuts so that you could get your tool in there. Can't wait for videos on the hood painting!
The good news is, there's always a silver lining, the Maserati has seemed downright reliable, easy to maintain, and cheap when comparing it to the Volvo!
Haha, you're absolutely right! 😂
Hey cool cat, you can put the hood into service position. There is a stop on each hinge that you can flip out of the way and the hood will swing up to a 90 degree position.
Taking the turbo out of my Focus ST (with a Volvo engine) I had to take out one of the driveshafts for clearance to drop it out of the bottom. The turbo itself was integrated into the exhaust manifold so I had to undo the whole thing from the block. Bought a new core and rebuilt turbo myself. Saved a lot over buying a whole unit. Works great.
Used to put Bosch dot4, last year I found ATE 5.1 on sale for $10 a liter, couldnt be happier, amazing feeling on the pedal, radical change. Used on a GTI mk6, Tacoma 2.4, Niisan versa and others, my clients couldn be happier.
I'm so jealous of you, having your superstar uncle there helping you. working on an epic vehicle, life is good in the notary world.
When bleeding brakes, you always pump the pedal 3-4 times and then hold down on the last pump, then you crack the bleeder screw. I noticed you and your uncle said just hold and crack and then let up. Just wanted to correct that. Thanks for more awesome Sweden content
Also, the video suggests that all that was done was bleeding out any air in the system when it really needed ALL the fluid replacing given the colour of the original fluid.
One thing you are going to learn soon is that a Volvo is never not broken. An example is the ‘98 V70 GLT parked in front of my house. It is on it’s third transmission, has a headliner that doesn’t exist, and the bolts holding the AC condenser fell out while driving one day so the AC doesn’t work. But wait, there’s more, one of the lifters sounds like it wants to be space debris and there is a ghost code regarding the EVAP system that makes it incredibly difficult to smog in CA. The reason I would put up with it is because I love it and when they work they’re very nice.
I love the positive attitude. Almost to 50k subscribers. Keep up the good work.
Hey Buddy VIva performance has a great rebuild kit for this car.
The K24 rebuild kit is $89.00
Oh sweet, thanks for the info!
Elliott! Perfect timing to get me through Wednesday!
Glad to help! lol
Ah yes, good to see Volvo haven't really changed much in 30 or so years. My father-in-law had a Volvo 940 SE Turbo, 2.3 ltr engine with the low pressure turbo. Great car, but as soon as it started drinking oil, and the electrics started going in various areas, and the airbag warning lights started coming on (they need to be replaced every 10 years) we knew its time had come. We had that car for about 12 years, we used it a lot for towing boats and horse boxes. It had done about 130,000 miles by the time we sold it. Around town its fuel economy was awufl, but on a motorway I could get it into the high 30's MPG wise.
Great videos, its great to watch, your uncle is brilliant too. Keep up the great work!
Elliott you got an awesome uncle...l am in my 80's all of my uncles have passed on now and so has all of my family on both sides wife my kids gone for one reason or another just me watching your uncle and you working together...l thank from an old Navy flying Shoe call sign Axel🇺🇸
Sorry Steve. I'm glad you can enjoy me and my uncle working together though.
So many things wrong that R that are the same as my UK V70R (now sold). Smoking, new turbo (£1500!!) + many other issues you have that are the same as I had with my UK car. One thing you don't have is the 13mpg issue that I had - great fun sorting that one out. What a car!!
Elliot, the access to the turbo is MUCH better when the Angle gear is removed.....and yes I realize that the prop shaft and right side axle have to come out to get the angle gear out, but I wouldn't attempt to do the turbo without removing it. I think when you go to reinstall, you will find it is harder yet to work in the cramped space, and do a proper job. Also, there is a coolant drain petcock on the back of the motor on the coolant piping, which would have made this project less messy.
You said "final issue of this car" with a straight face. Nice.
Cool video glad to see you doing videos again
So glad you’re back!
No matter what, that car is GORGEOUS
You are lucky, having such nice company as your uncle - working together, young and old is definately the new black! Thank you both for supernice content!
Can’t wait to see it sorted out and painted! Don’t give up! Keeping her going says a lot about your character in my opinion, dedication
Wow, that was a project! So wonderful to see the help you have from friends and family.
It was quite the task! Thanks for watching Andrew!
This was one of the first jobs I did on my 98' V70 xc. Went no better than you guys. Also would not recommend doing this in an old barn with bad lighting like I did.
The turbo on my 07 XC70 has been seeping a little oil for at least 60k miles now, although not as bad as yours. I will drive it for as long as I can, and when it's time for a new turbo I will hire my son-in-law, who is a European auto mechanic. I do love your Volvo videos, keep'm coming.
I've been looking at it all wrong, I'm not suffering from the sound of money leaving my wallet as I drain coolant. I'm being awarded with the sweet ambiance of Volvos very own relaxation waterfall. Loved the video, good job its harder than it looks for sure!
The way your going you’ll technically end up with a new car with all the parts you’re changing 😂😂😂
It sure feels like it!
Dealer book is 6 hrs labor for this job, they pull the front driveshafts and the bevel or angle gear box out , that makes it a whole lot easier to get at everything. Its probably faster in the end, we try to save time and ends up taking days.
The good thing about having my engine out to replace the block, is the access to the turbo.
Mine wasn't leaking oil past the seals, but I'm debating whether or not to rebuild it before sending the subframe back into it's cave. There are kits to rebuild the K24 too if you are so inclined. Pretty simple if you're careful and index the compressor wheel to the turbine shaft as to not upset the balance. Also, look for cracks in the turbine housing around the wastegate. Common, but not too serious.
Wow! That looked like an ordeal!! And, you've still got to get the turbo back in once it's back. I'm really looking forward to seeing it running the way it should and excited to see it painted and looking fresh. I still think it deserves a Volvo touring car racer livery 😁
Bad bad practice to pump to the floor on a used master cylinder. The piston travels into a normally unused area in the bore where there is debris and will accelerate seal failure. You should only pump about half way or use a cheap vacuum bleeder. Also, it’s a good idea to perform an ABS bleed procedure on a car with an uncertain history or if the system has been opened or air has entered before the modulator
Yeah I had a bit of a soft pedal so I went out on a private road and did a few hard braking stops where the abs would trigger and it started to feel different. I bleed them again and it got more air out and felt better. It’s been much better since .
I change my brake fluid every few years since they weren’t maintained before but luckily no signs of rust or leaks so far in the hardline when I replaced one (the soft lines had links at the fittings so I replaced them and one was seized on the hardline but the lines are on separate sections)
Elliott, never underestimate older man strength.
Finally caught up with you...man, what an awful location for the turbo. Glad I never had to work on one of those! Its gonna be a great car once its done!
Haha, yeah… Let’s hope!
Note on the brakes in the R: they are not immediate but they should feel linear. If you steep on it, you're going through the windshield, there should be some travel at the top, once you press a little more you'll stop a little more. Give it a stab and you will get that brembo brake feel you're looking for
You’re lucky to have your uncle help you,I’ve only ever had it the other way round with three of them 😂
6:37 AMONGUS
Sorry I had to. great video as always Elliot
😂😂😂
Can’t wait to finally see that hood painted!
Me too! lol
Way to go Elliot and crew! I have a 2004 V70R and it too has been very expensive to own. I am following this series with great interest to see what might be in store for me next. I have a few things done on my car that might be beneficial for yours. As others have mentioned, stainless steel brake lines make all the difference in brake pedal feel on my car. The pedal travel is half of what it is on my other P2 Volvos (S80/XC90) and the pedal is very firm. I also noticed that your A pillar trim is shedding the fabric. You can easily replace that trim with the same part from the base model V70-it is simple molded plastic and very cheap via junk yards. Keep up the great work and I hope that the turbo install goes faster than the removal.
Well done and great content again... Mine has only done 70k so have all this to come soon... I've probably already sent more than the car is worth.. I just love my volvo and will be with me for ever.... 👍
"Sent"? You know what they say; "Volvo bills for life!" Lol
there are a lot of company's doing rebuild but duke city turbo bricks is one of the only ones spin balancing the whole chra to 120k rpm. the turbos he builds can run more then 2x the boost they can run pre modification.
18:44 Elliott creates the next exercise craze, "Turbo Curls"!
Here's hoping that Turbo Curls catch on!
@@ElliottAlvis I believe that they will, Elliott!
And the fun Yellow Corvette sits on the rack !!!!!! Please summer is coming lets have some Vette Road Trip Content !!!!!!!
I just love your videos about this car and love seeing you two working together!
Well thanks!
Greetings Mr Motary Notary, the brake bleed went well, removing the turbo looked to be very tedious, at least you had the relaxing ambiance of the stream of coolant trickling down!!! It kinda sounded like someone taking a wiz but that's just me!!! I think that after this the Volvo should be in top shape. It was good to see the Maserati, even if for a moment!! Thanks for sharing your latest adventure!! 👍👍
Thanks Christopher! The turbo job was much more tedious than the video showed. But I didn't want to make the video horribly boring either. And I agree, its always good to see the Maserati!
I had a 1998 silver V70r AWD loved that car and the turbo blew up! After 2k worth of work. Another 2k just for the turbo. But I know now who would have done the work. My old boss from Advance. It would have been done correctly!
10:47 Elliott, you are a phlebotomist's dream! Really great video today with the "final" V70R's repair job. Thank you so much for sharing this excellent series of videos.
Thanks Mitchell. I'm glad you liked it!
@@ElliottAlvis Yes sir!
Jeez what a task that was! I don't envy you on this one, Elliott! But it's out, and on its way! I'm just glad you didn't drop it at the end!
Not dropping the turbo is always a bonus! Thanks for watching as always Bunker!
Hey Elliott, thanks for another great Volvo content video, good luck with ur turbo!😉
Thanks Charles!
Love seeing you guys working on the Volvo, looking forward to the refit and painting the bonnet.
FyI Volvo P2s are supposed to bled opposite, closest wheel first. My V70 has been a constant problem everytime I fux one thing something else breaks. I still love it.
That's interesting about the bleeding procedure. Any idea why that is?
@@ElliottAlvis something to do with the massive volume if fluid in the system. It's in the Vida service procedure, also it shouldn't have green coolant.
@@E1320_ I was going to comment on the coolant as well. Erik, you are 100% correct, someone put the incorrect coolant in this car.
Love it! But do note! I think P2 Volvo brakes are bled in reverse order! Check service manual. I think on P2 Volvo, the wheel CLOSEST to driver is the first to be bled (left on LHD and right on RHD) :D
Yes and for me. I'd have pulled almost all of that bottle through the system to flush out the fluid.
@@StuEvans I agree, you’re already there and it would only take another few minutes to do. 🤷🏻♂️
Yup, just did this a few weeks ago. Listed process in vida (volvo oem diag tool) starts front left
I thought ABS systems shouldn’t be bled the pedal way and should use a pump ?
When I had that car new it had a little oil in the charge pipe. I took it to the dealer under warranty and they swore it was normal. Talking with other owners I found it was common. Never seen that on any of my other Turbos.
While you've got it out, you should replace the engine bushings. I got a nice set of polyurethane ones from IPD.
Hahaha I'm getting rain forest cafe vibes from that coolant draining. Great vid Elliott!
Lol glad I’m not the only one! Thanks Jason.
I am spoiled from watching all the RUclipsrs with vacuum bleeders. I'll probably end up buying one before doing brakes or brake fluid for the first time. Kind of surprising to see the "old fashioned way" 😁. Junkyard Digs got some fancy thing to automate the old fashioned way: a rod/prop to push and release the brake pedal, by remote control
Dropping the whole suspension with engine/trans attach might be the way to go here. That is certainly how I've done engine swaps, with a lift, it really isn't hard to do, just the electrical connectors can be frustrating to disconnect when some just come right off, others...
Bought my -06 V70 2.4 last May. I've gotten 2 low oil level warnings but I've found that to be quite common in Volvo in general. I've used about 4 liters of oil in the last 11 months but I've also driven over 30 000km (20k miles) with it.
I have a "95 850R and "00 S70R my first cars I ever bought. I feel the pain had to replace both volvo's turbos. Just to get space to get them out was a lego nightmare 😄
Great videos Elliot, just shows you what money pits these cars can be, and you haven’t sorted the paint out yet, how did the turbo replacement go? We are all waiting.
I’m still waiting to put it back in! Hopefully next week will be the time. It’s been crazy hectic on my side. But I haven’t forgotten about the car or you guys. Thank you for your support!
The reason the electric wrench couldn't do it is the extension - that absorbs an astonishing amount of impact / torque due to slack in the joints :-)
I hope that you and your family have a wonderful Easter 🐣 Sunday. Nice to see you and your Uncle.
I always enjoy a Volvo video. Keep up the good work Elliot!
Thanks Ian!
Happy Easter from Volvoland 🇸🇪🐣
Elliot lucky to have your uncle
Your uncle enjoys this Volvo as much as you do Elliott!
"Final issue om this car"...
Famous last words.
Shouldn't have said that 😂
Great job!! Your videos are getting so much better as you go along! Keep up the good work, and keep your uncle in the videos.
AFAIK you don't have to bleed the brakes on a vehicle unless you've opened the system aka replaced a caliper or something. Compressing the calipers to put in new pads doesn't count. Now since brake fluid is hydroscopic it should have been swapped out but since you didn't, you're good to go.
Old fluid's gotta come out, though
@@D-man9000 that's right, so you need to flush the system, if you need to that is.
I'm lost on that as well, who the hell changes the brake fluid with pads and rotors. Judging by the comments people think it's normal. My money is on there mechanic's telling them they need it, charge for it and don't do shit.
You are correct. If you don't open the brake lines, you obviously didn't get air in there.
That said, you should flush your brake fluid every 2-3 years and almost no one does that, so it's probably time.
@@RJenkins6586 how often do you change your rotors? How often do you change your fluid?
It's very likely the fluid was also due on this car, considering it's history
That lift is basically a Car Trek lift before the Volvo went up.. the Maserati and the Diesel Benz Wagon!
My xc90 turbo lost the wastegate and the blow off burst but it never smoked. It would not come out the top. Had to pull the AWD and drop it down. Firewall is different I think. Once AWD is out, the turbo is a breeze. Bolts weren't that cranky though.
Positioning the exhaust manifold and turbo towards the firewall makes it worse than a hassle.
Remember my old Saabs, had it the opposite way, much easier working on the turbo!
Love me some good Volvo content! Just started on our T-5R… it had a bit of an intermittent boost issue so I suspect I need to go replacing vacuum lines to the turbo, so looking forward (not) to being elbow deep behind the block too!
Also, now would be a great time to potentially upgrade the turbo, while its out! Perhaps not so much to need to tune the ECU for it, but maybe a little more pep in it's step!
The cat shirts of this episode were priceless!
Haha, thanks!
@@ElliottAlvis I do work on laptops, too! My specialty is falling asleep and smearing up my eyeglasses.
Just found your channel, loving the content but I was bummed your not going bigger turbo.
Hey Elliott, you actually bleed from the CLOSEST caliper first on this car
I'm sure the turbo could use a service but this problem reminds me of a Volvo I worked on years ago. It was a turbo that was smoking really bad and all it was was a clogged port where that vacuum line attaches at the middle of the turbo. It got clogged up.
I always remove the turbo with the exhaust manifold still attached to it on these.
I wonder if that would've made it easier!
Sounds like we could learn from you 👍 About how many have you done?
@@autobahnproven not many tbh, I did one on c70, one on V70 and 2x V40 (4 banger but still a whiteblock engine). Never tried taking just the turbo off but looks like a major pain especially without wobble sockets, long spanners and other special tools.
@@szczepansopur6003 Thanks. I plan on keeping my car for a while. You've done more than the zero I've done. Great to have you sharing your experiences here 👍
I’m planning to put mid length headers on my car this summer and was curious how you get the manifold off. Mine is 23 years old and I’m scared to break a stud off. Best luck with heat? Impact? Penetrant?
Slide a hose over the water pipe drain and crack it loose. Even draining rad petcock still will hold some in the water pipe on the back of the block.
I thought I had a blown turbo in my V70T5… it was just a torn charge pipe and a cracked vacuum hose. Fairly reliable systems when maintained… great cars.
What were your symptoms?
I'm excited this car has been so easy for you to work on, it's about time you caught a break 😂 😂
That car has been a F ing nightmare from the get go. WOW!
If you haven't done so already, try properly bedding in the brakes (there's a million articles and videos on how best to do that). Once that's done, chances are you'll feel a significant improvement in braking power.
Great job! Happy to see I’m not the only one suffering 😂 but it’s still very doable, I have no experience working on cars and I shimmed my block and change the turbo on my s60r. Only thing is a 8 hours job turns out to be a 3 months job 😂😂
"Do the hokey pokey, and turn your Volvo around" LOL!
When you finally get to the point of being able to paint the hood, you should say in an "Extreme Makeover" (Move! That! Bus!) voice...... "Paint! That! Hood!" before it goes into paint.
In order to take out turbo from this volvo, i would take off right drive shaft - then angle gear - then its a childs play. And by taking off angle gear - you could check out the state of drive coupler between gearbox and angle gear, check out oil level and seal condition in angle gear, if needed, then make some preventive repair. And for easier work i would take off that turbo with all exhaust manifold and slide it out through the bottom. Its just easier in that way in my opinion. Sometimes i even take engine out to make a big maintenance - , timing belt with water pump, valve seals, turbo, clutch and other repairs....all in one repair and good to go. For this volvo engine out job is about 2 to 3 hours, so i kind a dont understand what you did there for 2 to 3 days 😆😆