If y’all have better ideas let me know please. -A sad Bulls fan See my final thoughts below… So I was pretty unhappy with how this one turned out but having time to reflect on it I’m not too upset about it. This is a team that needs a tear down and realistically it’s gonna take some time unfortunately. We turned a huge contract into smaller (easier to trade) contracts with less years. Saved a bunch of money. Acquired draft capital, and added young talent. That’s probably the best it gets this offseason. Let me know your thoughts though!
I SUBCRIBED at the 4:30 mark. You picked and said everything that I said for the most part, even down to who you'd, and let walk on the team. I feel the same way about Derozen, too.
Draft Kalel Ware at 11th . 15pts , 9.9 rebs, 1.9 blks 58%fg, 42% 3pt. Very Athletic 7.1 Center/Pf. He impoved significantly this season and should be our 1st choice at 11. Draft Zach Edey (height 7.4 ) 25pts, 12.2 rebs, 2.2 blks, 68%fg with the 17th pick. He had the BEST STATS in College and is a champion. But because he's SLOW laterally... he's gonna drop. GET HIM!!!
So as a bulls fan i do agree with a lot of your points with my own opinions 1. Zach has to go but honestly with his market/value in my opinion we would be lucky to get a first(maybe I’m wrong?)but the kings are his best fit (Magic and Philly are also options but those are a stretch so maybe the pistons spin back?) 2. Caruso is the best asset we have we can for sure get a first back maybe 2? But I think they wait till the deadline for him 3. Draft is what it is but I’d take like a Cody Williams or something if available and call it a night I’d love a big man cause vooch is just… yeah. If we happen to get another first I’d just keep it draft a big maybe like a Ke’el ware or something like that. Just some kind of young pieces to put with the others. 4. I love Demar but would not resign, if vooch wasn’t already here then sure I’d give him the money. Patrick Williams should get no more than a Caruso type of deal with 9m a year I kinda don’t care if he leaves or stays cause I’m just whatever on him at this point but we need shooting and defense so that alone id keep him. 5. Jevon Carter is whatever if somebody comes and gets him I’ll be a happy man. I like Dalen but lord knows he needs to work on that shot or he’s gonna be off the team in the future, I like Phillips hopefully he develops. Other than that all I can hope for is that we get a pick for 2025, be bad and get a top pick for that year and go from there.
Love this! The effort behind this comment is elite! I’ll try my best to respond to all of it… 1. Yeah the Lavine thing is so complicated. I think all those you listed are definitely at least somewhat plausible. 2. I don’t think we can get 2 (maybe at the deadline if someone is really desperate), and that’s just because what FOs tell me is that everyone is clinging to their picks right now. 3. Cody is my primary target is well, draft didn’t work out that way though lol. 4. Yeah agreed with DeRozan. As far as Pat I think we have to remember what contracts look like nowadays. For a young starter, you usually gotta pay $16 mil +. Just the day we live in. 5. Yeah I like Carter but we just don’t need him lol.
Keep up with the content man, you're the only one doing an actual simulation of the offseason! I love it! I would love to have access to the spreadsheets btw
I really appreciate it! Yeah this series has been awesome for the channel and a lot of fun. I got you for the spreadsheet! discord.gg/gP8cfGeKpx Hop on the discord and dm me! I got you from there 👌🏼. Running this shit small business style right now 😂.
Tip: Don't read my comment, let Google read it for you :)) So, I was playing a scenario in my mind where the Bulls would try to move Vooch to a contender or "almost" contender team and I would like to know if it could be a great move and if you would do it. Maybe that's just me, but I think Vooch days in a starting lineup are done or almost done and there's nothing wrong with that. Despite the fact that he's ageing, Vooch have been very healthy since he came to Chicago, playing almost a full season every year. Vooch could drop 16/18 points coming of the bench every game and he would be one of the best back up centers in the league. This could be a great opportunity for him to show his value coming of the bench and how much he can still offer. I think it could be a great opportunity for the Bulls to get some second round picks, young players or to dump salary. Vooch to the Mavericks: Every time the Bulls and the Mavs play against each other, Luka and Vooch are always having a great time together, laughing, smiling and helping each other get up off the floor. Both would love to play together, that's obvious. Now, could the Mavs be interested in Vucevic coming of the bench? I still think that trading Gafford was a mistake and I would love to see him back in Chicago as our starting big man. I think the Mavs wouldn't trade Gafford for Vooch straight way and Hardway for Vooch wouldn't make sence for them. So in this situation I would do Vooch/Caruso for Gafford/Hardway [ 1st pick & two 2nd round picks ]. I think it could a very good trade for both teams and a great situation for all players involved: Vooch is a very skilled big man and Luka&KAI could make a good use of his abilities. Alex fits any team and there're not enough words to describe how impactful he can be specially in a winning team. Gafford's still young and fits the Coby/Ayo/P-Will time line, he's very athletic, already got playoffs experience and I think he's a Chicago type player. Tim Hardway could be a scoring weapon coming of the bench and he'll be a free agent next season, so the Bulls could re-sign in a cheaper deal or making him available in the buyout market. Now. Talking about the rest of the team. It will be interesting to see what the front office will be able to get from Zach if they move him, I just hope they don't go after an ageing star. I'm fine if all they can get is basically expiring contracts, one solid role player and picks [one 1st round and two 2nd round]. Apparently DeMar "declined" a 2 year 80 million offer because he's looking for a long term. He loves the city and wants to retire as a Bulls, but he also wants to win. There's no way the Bulls will pay him like 4 years 160 million. Would he accept a pay cut and sign a 4 years 100 million? I think DeMar can still give us 2/3 years of good production. If not let him walk or sign-trade him. - Drummond's probably leaving. - I hope Craig declines his player option so Julian can get his minutes. I dreamed about Craig going to Boston few nights ago, let's see if it was a premonition. - I want Jevon Carter gone. I wouldn't ask any pick back. - I would like to see them re-signing Javonte Green, specially if they trade Alex. Also Green's energy is a great influence for the younger guys [ Dalen & Julian ]. - A lot of people make fun of Jeff Green and say he should've retired long ago, but I think he still can have an huge impact, specially as a veteran. If the Rockets decline his player option, most likely will, I wouldn't mind to see the Bulls giving him a minimum [ 2y ]. I think he would be a perfect mentor for P-Will, better than DeMar. He would make an amazing job helping P-Will becoming more agressive and helping him build some character [ shout-out to James Johnson for teaching all the young Pacers to not show fear and to never look down ]. -My last "take" would be signing Neemias Queta, the promise young big who's playing for the Celtics. He can get up and dunk the ball [ he bullied Wemby and dunked on him :') ], can block shots and protect the rim. All he needs is more opportunities and experience. He can be a solid back up center. Maybe both teams could work on a sign-trade involving Drummond and Queta. I don't want them to be a play-in or playoff team for the next 1-2 seasons, so I'm ok with the Bulls not being good. It was a lot to read I know, but there's no way to talk about the Bulls without getting to long. I'm new here, so all I can do is say "Thank You!" and subscribe :)
First of all, wow a new phenomenal comment. Love all the thought you put into this! Obviously I won’t touch on the whole thing because it’s a lot but I did read it all! If you want to discuss in more detail hop on my discord, I chat with others about that stuff there (link on the bottom). To answer your Vooch question. 100% there is no point to having him right now. I just truly don’t think we can trade him. I don’t think someone is gotta bite on it. So yeah it would be nice but I don’t see it happening.
Try this one. Zach to OKC. tried trading Zach to OKC for Osmane Dieng/Jalen Williams with multiple picks: 2024 1ST VIA HOU, 2024 1st via UTAH, 2025 1st via MIA, 2026 2nd via BOS/MEM. And 2026 2nd via GSW and it is success on trade machine. YOUNG players with multiple picks just like Danny Ainge style
Trade idea. Jazz- Lavine 2024 pick 11 Bulls- Clarkson, Collins, Sensabaugh, 2024 pick 28. Jazz are rebuilding, so getting another lottery pick is essential for them. With picks 10 & 11 they take the best available wing and Devin Carter. Lavine fite better with George than Clarkson did also. Bulls get Collins, who is a better fit than pat Williams IMO. Tbey can flip clarkson for additional draft assets. Sensabaugh is 2nd year player that flashed potential in Utah. Trading pick 11 kinda hurts but this seems to be the year to move down in a draft. They can add a guy like Deron Holmes with pick 28. This trade gives them more flaxability.
Honestly I won’t even put a ton of critical thought into it. Whatever frees us of this core the soonest I am okay with haha. I love these Bulls players as individuals but them as a team is a no no.
Yeah I reacted in a confusing way 😅. I blame my lack of sleep lol. I was aware of the situation though, I don’t bank on having any of those picks in this series so I act as if it’s gone. Don’t wanna bank on it.
@@_AVC_ no, i think he'll stay . He recently said in an Interview, that he wants to remain a Hawk for the next years, but he also wants to win. I think they will trade DJ Murray, and will look to cut salary in general from the team finances
22 year old starter in the NBA. It’s kinda the going rate if you can believe it 😅. Hard for me to wrap my head around as well but we live in a new time haha.
Now we have offense defense size and we have people that defends in the paint and in the room and you got plenty of Shooters and small forwards and point guard that is going to space the court get the guys involved to make their shots and play defense hustle and at the same teams going to make that offense look good and the team
Okay I read your like 20 comments haha. I think we messed up almost every name on here 😅. That is like a complete roster blow up as well, so I don’t know how realistic it is but I appreciate the thought you are putting in!
End in the free agency I would go after Jonathan Isaacs forward we need a star power forward and then I would bring melt Beasley to the Bulls and then I'll sign Darius schroetter to the Bulls as a veteran point guard and then I will have him shooting out with Kobe white and see who can be the real starter point guard
I will sign him a three-year deal with the bulls then I'll go sign Joe Harris as a small forward a 3-yard deal with the bulls and the other guy like that was really good in the Cavs really helped them out at the time and he's young as hell he can shoot threes all day and that is the Cade Osmond
Ok hear me out: Bulls receive: GRIZZ Luke Kennard GRIZZ Brandon Clarke HORN Vacilo micic HORN Cody Martin HORN Seth curry HORN Pokejusvki GRIZZ 2025 1st Grizzlies receive: Nikola vucevic Alex Caruso Hornets receive: BULLS Lonzo ball GRIZZ 2024 1st Now this probably looks crazy.. Grizzlies get a scoring big as JJJ is foul trouble and struggles to score (when all the stars were injured his g league and 10 day contract team mates out scored him) Giving them a big depth of VUC JJJ ALDAMA jemison JJJ and Aldama at PF.. They also received Caruso a 3 and D player who helps their lack of wing defense (they have smart and JJJ but no one in the middle to guard a star) Bulls receive a first for Caruso and a tonne of depth, yes it’s a lot of players but each of them help in each way. Micic is a solid playmaker who can back up dosunmu and coby white. Brandon Clarke adds defense and allows them to pick a big in the draft or sign a big. Kennard adds shooting and most of the worse players in this trade are on a 1 yr so low risk and drop about 60 minutes and can now spread those minutes to more players. Hornets get ball brothers for media and advertising (Lonzo will get back) and an easy roster crunch as mijic took up tre mans minutes and nick smith amari bailey and with lamelo coming back. Gotta give lamelo a reason to stay. Wild trade and obvs lavine and demar would get traded too
Okay I heard you out lol. It’s not the worst trade I’ve ever seen that’s for sure, but I don’t know how much sense it makes overall. I kinda doubt anyone really wants Vuch, I feel like he just doesn’t have a market. Caruso/Smart satisfy the same need but I guess having two guys like that isn’t the worst thing. I’m confused why the Hornets get a lotto pick for a bunch of bleh (solid NBA bleh but bleh). I do like the Lonzo to Charlotte idea for the story though haha.
And then I would also sign one more player that would work really great that he can space the web and on the court that can make that team better I would also sign Diego Sarge
And then you got the power forwards then you got this the power forward spot fit now you worry about the three centers that the Bulls are going to have right there is going to be really good I will first start with Isaac zubac as starter and then have Thomas Brian the backup and I'll have Adam and Brandon Boston Junior to develop their skills in the G League bowls
you don't think the spurs would trade for Zach. the trade i would do is spurs get Zach Caruso Dalen terry for devin vassell keldon johnson and zach collins 1st draft pick. What do you think
No yeah no way the Spurs go for it in my mind. Vassell is already a pretty good player so I don’t think they move him. Here is the other thing. It takes time to build a good team, that’s why building up slowly is always the best way to remain relevant for a long time. The Spurs know this better than most because they’ve done it. I don’t expect that franchise to try and risk it all right now. Just slowly build from within.
The bulls first rounder is top 10 protected through 2027 or otherwise it turns into a second round pick. That means the bulls will keep there pick more than likely since they will be bad. I think u thought that it being in the protections they wont have it but its the opposite Edit: kings pick is top 10 protected through 26 and cant trade a first until 2028
I mean I just don’t bank on having a pick that other people have rights to. Also that draft section is more so a way of showing what I can move. Man I sure hope we get that pick though!
And then then I will trade Alex Caruso and devour Carter to the heat for two future draft picks and two star players one of them would be Josh Richardson and Thomas Bryant add one future round pick and two second round picks and the Clippers would give me a second round pick and the Kings will give me a first-round pick in the second round pick
Correct! I don’t add it to the list on the sheet if we can’t do anything with it. I also won’t presume we’ll keep it. I have no way to assume that ya know?
Here’s a massive move Roster: PG ayo SG white SF Rui PF Williams C Drummond Backup: PG micic SG green SF barnes PF Vanderbilt C Clarke Last 5 11 Phillips 12 Derrick rose 13 Davion Mitchell 14 Duarte 15 Sasha Bulls get: LAKE rui LAKE Vanderbilt GRIZZ rose GRIZZ Clarke HORN micic KINGS barnes KINGS Mitchell KINGS Duarte KINGS Sasha Grizzlies 1st 2 Kings 1st Hornets get: Lonzo ball (opt out player option and resigned 7 mil 3 year sign and trade) Lakers get Demar derozan (resigned 3 year 30 mil ascending contract) Grizzlies get Vucevic Caruso Kings get: Zach lavine I know this sounds like a terrible mass of trades, great for everyone but the bulls… but they get 16mill in cap space and three firsts Derrick rose farewell retirement tour Defense with mitchel Clarke vando They get a future, cap space and 29mill added cap space on top of 16 mill in 2026 if they don’t want to pick up team options or extend on micic Mitchell Duarte Rose Sasha Defo a rebuild but three picks and 29 mil in cap space (before resigning Drummond green and cutting bitum hoping Craig doesn’t accept his option or cutting him, cutting Terrys option and carter)
I can see all the logic haha. I also greatly appreciate the amount of detail this has! I think there is a 0% chance it happens due to the sheer size of it but I wont say there isn’t some sense here haha!
@AVC_Streams If you don't have a problem with Billy Donovan, then you don't need to comment on anything with the Bulls. Because it's very clear that you don't actually watch Bulls games. Coaching continues to be the Bulls biggest problem right now.
@@wyntonmohorn I mean I know that staff pretty well 😅. Like REALLY well. If you want I can give you my exact connection in the DMs if you want (I don’t publicly say it so they don’t have to be associated with my content). I personally think as both a coach and a strategist he’s one of the better ones out there. Like when it comes to being a leader, oh man he’s that guy. Do we think the team has underperformed under him? I wanna have a conversation so I’m hoping we can! discord.gg/VYpfRx56MX Link there if you wanna chat! Could probably tell ya some cool stories.
@@emiliothepoet Aye that’s awesome! I always love when I get to interact with y’all a little more! Here is the link to my discord, use it and shoot me a DM on there. I can’t promise a call today as I have quite a busy plate but at the very least I can get ya scheduled! discord.gg/H8tMnCkDvu
If I want players I would go after the Sacramento Kings what they would have the Clippers the Denver Nuggets Miami Heat beat us last year in the in the playoff spot I would least get future pics on that at least two players back for one of my All-Star players
Bulls..myb I'm crazy but..trade Lavine to Magic for picks&any SG. Caruso&DeRozan to Lakers for all maxwell, JhoodS,Castleton, Vucevic to Celtics for any Center and Pat Williams to Blazers for PF. Ooh and Drummond to the Heat so he can start makes Bam the PF hw supposed to be. Bulls must go all YOUNG. White can be our #1option.
Not really seeing what we are getting back in this so it’s hard to evaluate but hey if you can find a way to move all those guys for assets I’m all in on it!
I would go after my meet Mark and Harrison Barnes I will go out to Malik Monk and Harrison Barnes in the Kings Trade Zach LaVine dare and then I will trade Damar to the clippers for Boston Brandon Boston Junior and it gets and to get Isaac zubac from the Clippers and I will trade DeMar voot for them
I would trade Delmar do the Heat to the Clippers to the nuggets I will never ever ever trade him to the freaking damn shakers for one reason and one reason only because LeBron will sabotage your career and make you look stupid the rest the whole time the rest on the court in that team
3 team trade. LAL gets Demar/Carter. POR gets Zach & their own 1st back . CHI gets Rui/Vanderbilt/Brogdon/Williams/26 & 29 1st Rd. Resign Pat, Green and Sanogo. PG Coby Brogdon Lonzo SG AYO CARUSO Terry SF RUI Phillips Bitim PF Pat Vanderbilt Green C Vooch Williams Sanogo. Draft a PG.
@@_AVC_ Yes but apparently the bulls lose 4 extra games however I think the improvements defensively and size wise helps more. Toss in resigning Pat, Green, Sanogo and the 1st rd pick it will leave the Bulls slightly over the luxury tax but the Bulls will have 3 contracts to move at the deadline in Brogdon Zo and Caruso. In the end it comes down to who continue to develops.
@@reginaldshort8486 Yeah I don’t buy into the Lebron scoring it uses for that haha. I just wanted to know if it worked financially. Might not be exciting but hey I’ll take anything right now 😂.
And then I'll bring back Javonte green for a 3-year deal I'll let Patrick William walk I said this so many times Patrick Williams might be 22 years old but he's no horse Grant he's not Harvey Grant hot cars blue series not Bill Cartwright and he sure in hell not Pau Gasol okay I'm just going to tell you that straight out he ain't no two only cool coats Patrick Williams is going to have to go somewhere else to develop his skills he's a boss he is a bus Patrick Williams is an embarrassment i n3ven sign back to bulls Patrick Williams back
LeBron James is an embarrassment is a ring Hopper he goes to team and don't stay loyal all season long he chokes every Finals game he's an embarrassment hell no I would never give Zach LaVine off and tomorrow to the f****** Lakers
If y’all have better ideas let me know please. -A sad Bulls fan
See my final thoughts below…
So I was pretty unhappy with how this one turned out but having time to reflect on it I’m not too upset about it. This is a team that needs a tear down and realistically it’s gonna take some time unfortunately. We turned a huge contract into smaller (easier to trade) contracts with less years. Saved a bunch of money. Acquired draft capital, and added young talent. That’s probably the best it gets this offseason. Let me know your thoughts though!
I SUBCRIBED at the 4:30 mark. You picked and said everything that I said for the most part, even down to who you'd, and let walk on the team. I feel the same way about Derozen, too.
I’m not positive what you wrote here but I’m glad I impressed you 😂
@@_AVC_ LMAOOOOO 🤣 I edited for you. I wrote this in a hurry cus I was hungry for my food. You're absolutely right. I could barely read myself. 😂
@@nubastyle Hahaha aye man you gotta get that grub when it’s ready 😂 I feel you!
Draft Kalel Ware at 11th . 15pts , 9.9 rebs, 1.9 blks 58%fg, 42% 3pt. Very Athletic 7.1 Center/Pf. He impoved significantly this season and should be our 1st choice at 11.
Draft Zach Edey (height 7.4 ) 25pts, 12.2 rebs, 2.2 blks, 68%fg with the 17th pick. He had the BEST STATS in College and is a champion. But because he's SLOW laterally... he's gonna drop. GET HIM!!!
Draft two centers?
So as a bulls fan i do agree with a lot of your points with my own opinions
1. Zach has to go but honestly with his market/value in my opinion we would be lucky to get a first(maybe I’m wrong?)but the kings are his best fit (Magic and Philly are also options but those are a stretch so maybe the pistons spin back?)
2. Caruso is the best asset we have we can for sure get a first back maybe 2? But I think they wait till the deadline for him
3. Draft is what it is but I’d take like a Cody Williams or something if available and call it a night I’d love a big man cause vooch is just… yeah. If we happen to get another first I’d just keep it draft a big maybe like a Ke’el ware or something like that. Just some kind of young pieces to put with the others.
4. I love Demar but would not resign, if vooch wasn’t already here then sure I’d give him the money. Patrick Williams should get no more than a Caruso type of deal with 9m a year I kinda don’t care if he leaves or stays cause I’m just whatever on him at this point but we need shooting and defense so that alone id keep him.
5. Jevon Carter is whatever if somebody comes and gets him I’ll be a happy man. I like Dalen but lord knows he needs to work on that shot or he’s gonna be off the team in the future, I like Phillips hopefully he develops. Other than that all I can hope for is that we get a pick for 2025, be bad and get a top pick for that year and go from there.
Love this! The effort behind this comment is elite! I’ll try my best to respond to all of it…
1. Yeah the Lavine thing is so complicated. I think all those you listed are definitely at least somewhat plausible.
2. I don’t think we can get 2 (maybe at the deadline if someone is really desperate), and that’s just because what FOs tell me is that everyone is clinging to their picks right now.
3. Cody is my primary target is well, draft didn’t work out that way though lol.
4. Yeah agreed with DeRozan. As far as Pat I think we have to remember what contracts look like nowadays. For a young starter, you usually gotta pay $16 mil +. Just the day we live in.
5. Yeah I like Carter but we just don’t need him lol.
send caruso to san antonio for your pick in 2025 and 2 future 2nds
@@baktosh1124 Certainly not the worst haul. Gives us the comfort of knowing we wont lose out on our pick.
Keep up with the content man, you're the only one doing an actual simulation of the offseason! I love it! I would love to have access to the spreadsheets btw
I really appreciate it! Yeah this series has been awesome for the channel and a lot of fun. I got you for the spreadsheet!
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Hop on the discord and dm me! I got you from there 👌🏼. Running this shit small business style right now 😂.
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So, I was playing a scenario in my mind where the Bulls would try to move Vooch to a contender or "almost" contender team and I would like to know if it could be a great move and if you would do it. Maybe that's just me, but I think Vooch days in a starting lineup are done or almost done and there's nothing wrong with that. Despite the fact that he's ageing, Vooch have been very healthy since he came to Chicago, playing almost a full season every year. Vooch could drop 16/18 points coming of the bench every game and he would be one of the best back up centers in the league. This could be a great opportunity for him to show his value coming of the bench and how much he can still offer. I think it could be a great opportunity for the Bulls to get some second round picks, young players or to dump salary.
Vooch to the Mavericks: Every time the Bulls and the Mavs play against each other, Luka and Vooch are always having a great time together, laughing, smiling and helping each other get up off the floor. Both would love to play together, that's obvious. Now, could the Mavs be interested in Vucevic coming of the bench? I still think that trading Gafford was a mistake and I would love to see him back in Chicago as our starting big man. I think the Mavs wouldn't trade Gafford for Vooch straight way and Hardway for Vooch wouldn't make sence for them. So in this situation I would do Vooch/Caruso for Gafford/Hardway [ 1st pick & two 2nd round picks ]. I think it could a very good trade for both teams and a great situation for all players involved: Vooch is a very skilled big man and Luka&KAI could make a good use of his abilities. Alex fits any team and there're not enough words to describe how impactful he can be specially in a winning team. Gafford's still young and fits the Coby/Ayo/P-Will time line, he's very athletic, already got playoffs experience and I think he's a Chicago type player. Tim Hardway could be a scoring weapon coming of the bench and he'll be a free agent next season, so the Bulls could re-sign in a cheaper deal or making him available in the buyout market.
Now. Talking about the rest of the team. It will be interesting to see what the front office will be able to get from Zach if they move him, I just hope they don't go after an ageing star. I'm fine if all they can get is basically expiring contracts, one solid role player and picks [one 1st round and two 2nd round].
Apparently DeMar "declined" a 2 year 80 million offer because he's looking for a long term. He loves the city and wants to retire as a Bulls, but he also wants to win. There's no way the Bulls will pay him like 4 years 160 million. Would he accept a pay cut and sign a 4 years 100 million? I think DeMar can still give us 2/3 years of good production. If not let him walk or sign-trade him.
- Drummond's probably leaving.
- I hope Craig declines his player option so Julian can get his minutes. I dreamed about Craig going to Boston few nights ago, let's see if it was a premonition.
- I want Jevon Carter gone. I wouldn't ask any pick back.
- I would like to see them re-signing Javonte Green, specially if they trade Alex. Also Green's energy is a great influence for the younger guys [ Dalen & Julian ].
- A lot of people make fun of Jeff Green and say he should've retired long ago, but I think he still can have an huge impact, specially as a veteran. If the Rockets decline his player option, most likely will, I wouldn't mind to see the Bulls giving him a minimum [ 2y ]. I think he would be a perfect mentor for P-Will, better than DeMar. He would make an amazing job helping P-Will becoming more agressive and helping him build some character [ shout-out to James Johnson for teaching all the young Pacers to not show fear and to never look down ].
-My last "take" would be signing Neemias Queta, the promise young big who's playing for the Celtics. He can get up and dunk the ball [ he bullied Wemby and dunked on him :') ], can block shots and protect the rim. All he needs is more opportunities and experience. He can be a solid back up center. Maybe both teams could work on a sign-trade involving Drummond and Queta.
I don't want them to be a play-in or playoff team for the next 1-2 seasons, so I'm ok with the Bulls not being good.
It was a lot to read I know, but there's no way to talk about the Bulls without getting to long. I'm new here, so all I can do is say "Thank You!" and subscribe :)
First of all, wow a new phenomenal comment. Love all the thought you put into this! Obviously I won’t touch on the whole thing because it’s a lot but I did read it all! If you want to discuss in more detail hop on my discord, I chat with others about that stuff there (link on the bottom).
To answer your Vooch question. 100% there is no point to having him right now. I just truly don’t think we can trade him. I don’t think someone is gotta bite on it. So yeah it would be nice but I don’t see it happening.
Try this one. Zach to OKC. tried trading Zach to OKC for Osmane Dieng/Jalen Williams with multiple picks: 2024 1ST VIA HOU, 2024 1st via UTAH, 2025 1st via MIA, 2026 2nd via BOS/MEM. And 2026 2nd via GSW and it is success on trade machine. YOUNG players with multiple picks just like Danny Ainge style
You’re talking about the starter Jalen Williams right? Like the Wing?
this isn’t 2021 anymore. Jalen Williams by himself is way more valuable than Zach Lavine
@@henry7486 I would tend to agree (sadly as a Bulls fan haha). Like Zach is the better player right now but in terms of value it’s not too close.
Trade idea.
Jazz- Lavine 2024 pick 11
Bulls- Clarkson, Collins, Sensabaugh, 2024 pick 28.
Jazz are rebuilding, so getting another lottery pick is essential for them. With picks 10 & 11 they take the best available wing and Devin Carter. Lavine fite better with George than Clarkson did also.
Bulls get Collins, who is a better fit than pat Williams IMO. Tbey can flip clarkson for additional draft assets. Sensabaugh is 2nd year player that flashed potential in Utah. Trading pick 11 kinda hurts but this seems to be the year to move down in a draft. They can add a guy like Deron Holmes with pick 28. This trade gives them more flaxability.
Honestly I won’t even put a ton of critical thought into it. Whatever frees us of this core the soonest I am okay with haha. I love these Bulls players as individuals but them as a team is a no no.
idk if you were confused but a top 10 protection means if the pick is 1-10 the bulls keep it
Yeah I reacted in a confusing way 😅. I blame my lack of sleep lol. I was aware of the situation though, I don’t bank on having any of those picks in this series so I act as if it’s gone. Don’t wanna bank on it.
And then the point guard spot can be Colby White can be Darius Schroeder and then the other one would be melt Beasley
Keep up the good work, will you do an ATL one in the future too?
I’ll do them all before the draft! Gonna up the frequency of em! You think I should trade Trae?
@@_AVC_ no, i think he'll stay . He recently said in an Interview, that he wants to remain a Hawk for the next years, but he also wants to win. I think they will trade DJ Murray, and will look to cut salary in general from the team finances
@@michaelhochhold5245 Yeah cutting salary is gonna be a big one. No sense in paying a ton for a bad team.
$20 million a year for PAW? He has proved less than Coby and Ayo.
22 year old starter in the NBA. It’s kinda the going rate if you can believe it 😅. Hard for me to wrap my head around as well but we live in a new time haha.
Now we have offense defense size and we have people that defends in the paint and in the room and you got plenty of Shooters and small forwards and point guard that is going to space the court get the guys involved to make their shots and play defense hustle and at the same teams going to make that offense look good and the team
Okay I read your like 20 comments haha. I think we messed up almost every name on here 😅. That is like a complete roster blow up as well, so I don’t know how realistic it is but I appreciate the thought you are putting in!
End in the free agency I would go after Jonathan Isaacs forward we need a star power forward and then I would bring melt Beasley to the Bulls and then I'll sign Darius schroetter to the Bulls as a veteran point guard and then I will have him shooting out with Kobe white and see who can be the real starter point guard
I will sign him a three-year deal with the bulls then I'll go sign Joe Harris as a small forward a 3-yard deal with the bulls and the other guy like that was really good in the Cavs really helped them out at the time and he's young as hell he can shoot threes all day and that is the Cade Osmond
Ok hear me out:
Bulls receive:
GRIZZ Luke Kennard
GRIZZ Brandon Clarke
HORN Vacilo micic
HORN Cody Martin
HORN Seth curry
HORN Pokejusvki
GRIZZ 2025 1st
Grizzlies receive:
Nikola vucevic
Alex Caruso
Hornets receive:
BULLS Lonzo ball
GRIZZ 2024 1st
Now this probably looks crazy..
Grizzlies get a scoring big as JJJ is foul trouble and struggles to score (when all the stars were injured his g league and 10 day contract team mates out scored him)
Giving them a big depth of VUC JJJ ALDAMA jemison
JJJ and Aldama at PF..
They also received Caruso a 3 and D player who helps their lack of wing defense (they have smart and JJJ but no one in the middle to guard a star)
Bulls receive a first for Caruso and a tonne of depth, yes it’s a lot of players but each of them help in each way. Micic is a solid playmaker who can back up dosunmu and coby white.
Brandon Clarke adds defense and allows them to pick a big in the draft or sign a big. Kennard adds shooting and most of the worse players in this trade are on a 1 yr so low risk and drop about 60 minutes and can now spread those minutes to more players.
Hornets get ball brothers for media and advertising (Lonzo will get back) and an easy roster crunch as mijic took up tre mans minutes and nick smith amari bailey and with lamelo coming back. Gotta give lamelo a reason to stay.
Wild trade and obvs lavine and demar would get traded too
Okay I heard you out lol. It’s not the worst trade I’ve ever seen that’s for sure, but I don’t know how much sense it makes overall.
I kinda doubt anyone really wants Vuch, I feel like he just doesn’t have a market. Caruso/Smart satisfy the same need but I guess having two guys like that isn’t the worst thing. I’m confused why the Hornets get a lotto pick for a bunch of bleh (solid NBA bleh but bleh). I do like the Lonzo to Charlotte idea for the story though haha.
@@_AVC_ I just re arranged the trade hold on
How about trading Alex Caruso to the Hornets for Mark Williams & 2025 1st round pick?
I don’t think we get that much for him haha but that would be cool!
And then I would also sign one more player that would work really great that he can space the web and on the court that can make that team better I would also sign Diego Sarge
And then you got the power forwards then you got this the power forward spot fit now you worry about the three centers that the Bulls are going to have right there is going to be really good I will first start with Isaac zubac as starter and then have Thomas Brian the backup and I'll have Adam and Brandon Boston Junior to develop their skills in the G League bowls
We definitely should not keep Vuc and should immediately be looking for a trade involving Barnes in Dec
I don’t know who would reasonably want him 🤷🏻♂️. He has value but I think that trade is too complicated for teams personally.
you don't think the spurs would trade for Zach. the trade i would do is spurs get Zach Caruso Dalen terry for devin vassell keldon johnson and zach collins 1st draft pick. What do you think
No yeah no way the Spurs go for it in my mind. Vassell is already a pretty good player so I don’t think they move him.
Here is the other thing. It takes time to build a good team, that’s why building up slowly is always the best way to remain relevant for a long time. The Spurs know this better than most because they’ve done it. I don’t expect that franchise to try and risk it all right now. Just slowly build from within.
The bulls first rounder is top 10 protected through 2027 or otherwise it turns into a second round pick. That means the bulls will keep there pick more than likely since they will be bad. I think u thought that it being in the protections they wont have it but its the opposite
Edit: kings pick is top 10 protected through 26 and cant trade a first until 2028
I mean I just don’t bank on having a pick that other people have rights to. Also that draft section is more so a way of showing what I can move. Man I sure hope we get that pick though!
And then the power forward spot will be Jonathan Isaacs Diego Sarge and Julius Phillips
And then the shooting guard spot will be Josh Richardson Javonte green and then I as a Subaru
Yo when is the grizzlies ideal offseason vid coming out
Since you asked, I got you next week. I owe someone the Jazz first. Memphis should be a fun one!
And then then I will trade Alex Caruso and devour Carter to the heat for two future draft picks and two star players one of them would be Josh Richardson and Thomas Bryant add one future round pick and two second round picks and the Clippers would give me a second round pick and the Kings will give me a first-round pick in the second round pick
Next year pick is top 10 protect so if we in the top 10 we keep it an SA next our pick next year
Correct! I don’t add it to the list on the sheet if we can’t do anything with it. I also won’t presume we’ll keep it. I have no way to assume that ya know?
Can u link the spreadsheet
Of course! Use this link to send me a DM and I’ll get you set up!
discord.gg/jhZHPjNuxa
Here’s a massive move
Roster:
PG ayo
SG white
SF Rui
PF Williams
C Drummond
Backup:
PG micic
SG green
SF barnes
PF Vanderbilt
C Clarke
Last 5
11 Phillips
12 Derrick rose
13 Davion Mitchell
14 Duarte
15 Sasha
Bulls get:
LAKE rui
LAKE Vanderbilt
GRIZZ rose
GRIZZ Clarke
HORN micic
KINGS barnes
KINGS Mitchell
KINGS Duarte
KINGS Sasha
Grizzlies 1st
2 Kings 1st
Hornets get:
Lonzo ball (opt out player option and resigned 7 mil 3 year sign and trade)
Lakers get
Demar derozan (resigned 3 year 30 mil ascending contract)
Grizzlies get
Vucevic
Caruso
Kings get:
Zach lavine
I know this sounds like a terrible mass of trades, great for everyone but the bulls… but they get 16mill in cap space and three firsts Derrick rose farewell retirement tour
Defense with mitchel Clarke vando
They get a future, cap space and 29mill added cap space on top of 16 mill in 2026 if they don’t want to pick up team options or extend on micic
Mitchell
Duarte
Rose
Sasha
Defo a rebuild but three picks and 29 mil in cap space (before resigning Drummond green and cutting bitum hoping Craig doesn’t accept his option or cutting him, cutting Terrys option and carter)
I can see all the logic haha. I also greatly appreciate the amount of detail this has! I think there is a 0% chance it happens due to the sheer size of it but I wont say there isn’t some sense here haha!
And then my fault and then my small small small small forward spot would be Harrison Barnes Joe Harris and Terry small small small small forward spot
The perfect off-season for the Bulls would be firing Billy Donovan. He's a horrible Head Coach in the NBA.
I guess why do you think that? I personally don’t have a problem with him.
@AVC_Streams If you don't have a problem with Billy Donovan, then you don't need to comment on anything with the Bulls. Because it's very clear that you don't actually watch Bulls games. Coaching continues to be the Bulls biggest problem right now.
@@wyntonmohorn I mean I know that staff pretty well 😅. Like REALLY well. If you want I can give you my exact connection in the DMs if you want (I don’t publicly say it so they don’t have to be associated with my content).
I personally think as both a coach and a strategist he’s one of the better ones out there. Like when it comes to being a leader, oh man he’s that guy. Do we think the team has underperformed under him? I wanna have a conversation so I’m hoping we can!
discord.gg/VYpfRx56MX
Link there if you wanna chat! Could probably tell ya some cool stories.
@@_AVC_I’d take you up on the chat cause 100% I feel Billy Donovan is a huge reason for the Bulls lack of development and success.
@@emiliothepoet Aye that’s awesome! I always love when I get to interact with y’all a little more! Here is the link to my discord, use it and shoot me a DM on there. I can’t promise a call today as I have quite a busy plate but at the very least I can get ya scheduled!
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If I want players I would go after the Sacramento Kings what they would have the Clippers the Denver Nuggets Miami Heat beat us last year in the in the playoff spot I would least get future pics on that at least two players back for one of my All-Star players
Yeah I’m not comprehending this one really either 😅
It's going to be difficult. They need to not resign DeMar. Trading Zach and Vooch will be the other step
Agreed. I think it’s hard but doable for Zach. I don’t know how you trade Vooch.
This one mustve hurt to make 😅
Normally these take me like 45 min to film. This one took an hour and a half because I kept saying “It can get better than this right?” 😂
Bulls..myb I'm crazy but..trade Lavine to Magic for picks&any SG.
Caruso&DeRozan to Lakers for all maxwell, JhoodS,Castleton, Vucevic to Celtics for any Center and Pat Williams to Blazers for PF.
Ooh and Drummond to the Heat so he can start makes Bam the PF hw supposed to be.
Bulls must go all YOUNG. White can be our #1option.
Not really seeing what we are getting back in this so it’s hard to evaluate but hey if you can find a way to move all those guys for assets I’m all in on it!
Draft Zack Edey
Trade back or taking him with pick 11?
draft brony james # pick , sign lebron and trade lavine ,vucevic, williams and future picks
Lol why tf not I guess!
Trade Alex to the thunder
You think they need him?
I would go after my meet Mark and Harrison Barnes I will go out to Malik Monk and Harrison Barnes in the Kings Trade Zach LaVine dare and then I will trade Damar to the clippers for Boston Brandon Boston Junior and it gets and to get Isaac zubac from the Clippers and I will trade DeMar voot for them
Patrick Williams needs to play sf. This small ball isn't working. Sign and trade derozen for a tall pf at least
Yeah I agree Pat needs to play the wing. I would love a sign and trade haha. Love DeMar but it’s just not needed right now.
@@_AVC_ I agree. There's nothing more he can do for us haha
@@Tonyvontony I honestly hope he goes somewhere else. He deserves better lol.
Please send me the spreadsheet
discord.gg/gP8cfGeKpx
Hop on the discord and shoot me a dm! I’ll take care of ya from there 👌🏼. Had a lot of people asking haha!
These trades are ass 🤦🏻♂️
I mean it’s not the sexiest outcomes ever that’s for sure 😅. Do you wanna be more specific? Always happy to discuss!
I would trade Delmar do the Heat to the Clippers to the nuggets I will never ever ever trade him to the freaking damn shakers for one reason and one reason only because LeBron will sabotage your career and make you look stupid the rest the whole time the rest on the court in that team
I’m not sure I completely comprehended this comment 😅
3 team trade. LAL gets Demar/Carter. POR gets Zach & their own 1st back . CHI gets Rui/Vanderbilt/Brogdon/Williams/26 & 29 1st Rd. Resign Pat, Green and Sanogo. PG Coby Brogdon Lonzo SG AYO CARUSO Terry SF RUI Phillips Bitim PF Pat Vanderbilt Green C Vooch Williams Sanogo. Draft a PG.
Huh interesting. Does that trade work financially?
@@_AVC_ Yes but apparently the bulls lose 4 extra games however I think the improvements defensively and size wise helps more. Toss in resigning Pat, Green, Sanogo and the 1st rd pick it will leave the Bulls slightly over the luxury tax but the Bulls will have 3 contracts to move at the deadline in Brogdon Zo and Caruso. In the end it comes down to who continue to develops.
@@reginaldshort8486 Yeah I don’t buy into the Lebron scoring it uses for that haha. I just wanted to know if it worked financially. Might not be exciting but hey I’ll take anything right now 😂.
Not bad but I don't get keeping vooch with that kind of a shakeup
@@werideatdusk I just literally don’t think we could trade him. You’re right it doesn’t make sense, I just think we are stuck there haha.
send me this speadsheet bro!
Let’s do it! Join the discord and shoot me a dm! This is my marketing scheme to get people on discord lol.
discord.gg/YTsAFnXcuA
@@_AVC_ I’ve got discord , just joined
@@mrawesome7175 Dope, like I said shoot me a DM
And then I'll bring back Javonte green for a 3-year deal I'll let Patrick William walk I said this so many times Patrick Williams might be 22 years old but he's no horse Grant he's not Harvey Grant hot cars blue series not Bill Cartwright and he sure in hell not Pau Gasol okay I'm just going to tell you that straight out he ain't no two only cool coats Patrick Williams is going to have to go somewhere else to develop his skills he's a boss he is a bus Patrick Williams is an embarrassment i n3ven sign back to bulls Patrick Williams back
And you not a bull fan
Aw why not? 😅
The person who trying to trade bulls good players is garbage so stop the drama
Whatcha mean?
LeBron James is an embarrassment is a ring Hopper he goes to team and don't stay loyal all season long he chokes every Finals game he's an embarrassment hell no I would never give Zach LaVine off and tomorrow to the f****** Lakers
Lol man he old af at this point. Drop the hate and enjoy the greatness while we have it. I got over my Bron “hate”.