Install solar on roof, charge car for free, during load shedding supply power to house, win win, govt must remove excessive duties, prices will come down once volumes increase.
@@leeclarke3865 Im really interested and really like EVs the price has to get better, 200Kms is still very wide and the charger is probably in bad hidden place?
@@factorseries Just some food for thought...at the time when EVs become the norm and cheaper our dynamics will change again...right now due primarily to the low volume of EVs we are saving a fortune in running cost due to OEMs pushing the iniative with free charging everywhere...you wait another 5 years for the price to come down and I promise you your monthly bills will include EV charging. EVs are not expensive considering the low running cost or none at most times look at a early 90ah Rex I3 priced below R400 000 and have around 180km to 220km EV range and an additional 120 - 150km fuel backup range...and enjoy the incentives now...and use those savings and get energy independent with the savings today, get your home off the grid and live a more cost effective life
Main problems with electric cars: 1. Purchase price 2. Electricity quality 3. Public charging availability (specially when travelling to rural areas) I know that, one day, we'll see hotels, restaurants and gas stations with charging points; but for now: plug-in hybrids are the way to go. You commute electric, and travel using the combustion engine.
Very good point. The question is can a plug in hybrid successfully use electricity exclusively from combustion engine? I’m looking at the BMW ix and the dealership is not clear on this. 🤔
Listen, maybe im biased but to me you guys are the MOST UNDERRATED 'car review/entertainment' channel on YT. I watch tonnes of various car reviewers DAILY (from Raitis rides, to Carwow, to TruckTube and more) and yes many are quite good but they lack the full package you people provide. Best part, I've just learned you're situated just down the road from me👊. FINALLY, someone putting Bedfordview on the map--- for GOOD reasons 🤣🤙. Seriously though, compared to other YT car reviewers I truly think you guys stand out the most. From quality of editing and filming, to knowledge about the products, and entertainment factor (definitely) you guys strike the best balance ive seen so far on YT (obviously barring the seasoned pro's like TGear and Drivetribe with budgets in the millions of POUNDS, you'll get there though.) And not to trash talk the competition, but there's a very popular car review channel from England (I think) and honestly the best part about his reviews seem to be the catchy video thumbnails and descriptions, so it perplexes me how he has millions of subscribers when his overall production and presentation honestly don't come close to you guys. Not to say he's terrible, but you get my point. Anyways, Keep it up Ciro, so proud of you guys. People can say what they want to about S.Africans but given our size and multiple dire situations we still punch far above our weight when we really want to. God bless. edit: Btw, nice LFA review, a timeless machine.
@@gingerjacaranda yeah I saw that review by Ciro. I saw one at Lexus fourways, apparently owned by their group owner, I was told they bought it for R5m at the time and there were only two in the country. Now we know.
Another considerable benefit of full electric cars it the massively reduced maintenance bill over time... No oil changes, not air, fuel or oil filters, No belt or chain replacements, etc... and a lot less spent on brake pads, as you've mentioned! But as long as we have tax hungry thieves in our Government, electric cars won't flourish as they don't contribute to the all important fuel levies, which seems like our state is developing an unhealthy dependency on.
Yes numb nuts here forgets this car has a 400km range and that loadshedding is from one zone to another. For example if o need a charge and I'm heading to Century City I just continue to Cape Town and charge there less than 10kms away....EISH
You can use the three prong plug for day to day charging, in fact, trickle charging is preferable for the longevity of your battery. The reason why your extension cord melted is because it was too long, cable gauge wasn't large enough and wasn't rated for the amount of current the BMW i3 was drawing. As long as you don't overload the plug socket or use a bad extension cord, you can safely charge your EV from it.
I'm sorry but you can get a diesel Jaguar then for far far far less and it will use less fuel because it is diesel and the fuel cost will never amount to the premium you have to pay over and above a normal equivalent plus a wallbox. The inconvenience and the cost means it is pointless buying an electric car. And without government incentives, they are pointless since there are better and cheaper alternatives that will never consume as much fuel as the extra you pay for electric. Load shedding is not the only issue here. Electric cars still pretty much don't work in most countries because of these issues.
It is sad that we aren't getting small EV's like the Renault Zoe or the Honda E. I have heard that there is a MASSIVE import duty charge on EV's , reason why companies like Tesla aren't selling here either...
I 100% agree. GWM has an electric car called the Ora R1 and I think it's pretty neat and it's very affordable. South Africa is so behind in terms of these cars, if you look at India and some other African countries they have access to affordable EVs but in SA they cost the same as a flat or a house
Ciro. The price is intentional. Unfortunately the government makes more than R6 a litre of fuel in the form of levies. If electric vehicles disrupt the fuel market, it disrupts government revenue. So they will keep imposing heavy duties until they figure out how to tap into the EV market
Will it work in south africa, no. Only for the rich. Eskom cant even cope now, add hundreds of thousands of car all taking 40 min to fully charge. Nooooo tnx
What a way to go! Those of you who do have the cash or to buy any of these lovely vehicle within a couple of year cash must first have a chat with me to not buy it cash with your own money. Wishing you more than enough! Francois
The higher cost of EVs can be attributed to import duties charged by the SA government. As far as I'm aware, electric cars pay an import tax of 25% while 18% is charged on combustion engine cars. It really should be at the lower rate... for both.
OUR corrupt SA government wants to keep electric cars out because they don't contribute a single cent to the fuel levies\taxes. The ANC (and many others) are not in the least interested in conserving our environment and our health. They are only interested in how much they can squeeze into their pockets in as little time as possible!
With the problem of load-shedding we currently facing, owning this car would be a joke. Compared to BMW electric car this is it but the price-wise it's too expensive. Why would they sell this car with an emergency charger in the first place? Like when I buy a cellphone I normally want it with an original charger, and I just make sure I don't break or lose the original charger because buying and using an ineffective charger that did not come with with the product can have adverse effects on your battery. So Jaguar should exercise on that.
Hopefully they will not work in South Africa or in Africa for that matter, I don't see myself waiting 8 days for my car to charge up, only to drive it for a few hours
Pity they can't read though, first and number one rule charging your EV with emergency/overnight charger....DO NOT CONNECT TO AN EXTENSION LEAD, it won't be dangerous or explode then...lol...a bit off on the facts but then again he still has Petrol in in veins...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Umm.... no it wont. You need to be able to charge your car. Where will the electricity come from?? Eskom?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I always smile when l watch your video. Great Content. Can you please work something out and review the Volvo XC90 Inscription.. the plug in hybrid. Hahahahaha IPhone Joke.
Your advice about not using a 3 pin plug is just plain wrong, it's there for a reason. However cheap extension leads should not be used. Here in the UK I've travelled to friends and charged up overnight, just fine, without melting my cables.
Daily Cars - *Jaguar I-pace - Mercedes EQC - Audi E-Tron - Volvo XC40 Recharge - Mini Cooper SE - BMW i3 - VW I.D.3 - Nissan Leaf* Weekend Cars - *Porsche GT3/GT4 - BMW M2 - Ford Mustang GT - Honda Civic Type R - Subaru WRX Sti - Toyota GT86 - Mazda MX-5* Holiday Cars - *Range Rover - Mercedes G? - Audi Q?- BMW X? - Volvo XC? - Ford XLT - Toyota Fortuner - Subaru Outback - Nissan X-Trail* So even if you have an EV, there's still plenty of petrol to burn😎 & cars to give your left leg a workout 🦿 #SaveTheManuals
Electric cars do work in South Africa. Well mine works for me and I know all the other owners say the same. While some say "not ready for them" etc etc I’ll just continue driving mine at 18c/km - 5th of the price of petrol- and 70 g co2/km emission (even given that only half my charging comes from Solar). Mine I bought second hand. It’s comfortable, very nimble, oh so so smooth and SILENT. Yes, duties push up the price but the running costs are so low.
“It’s like selling a cellphone with no charger” - 2019 Ciro. “That man is a genius!” - apple 2020. 🥴🤦🏾♂️
Install solar on roof, charge car for free, during load shedding supply power to house, win win, govt must remove excessive duties, prices will come down once volumes increase.
Facts
@@gingerjacaranda i hate this government
when the charger install is the price of over 2 years diesel for my bakkie, then I'll pass thanks.
The diesel is for going out of the province. At this stage that will only change once they're charging outlets every 80Kms
@@factorseries chargers are currently at every 200kms
@@leeclarke3865 Im really interested and really like EVs the price has to get better, 200Kms is still very wide and the charger is probably in bad hidden place?
@@factorseries Just some food for thought...at the time when EVs become the norm and cheaper our dynamics will change again...right now due primarily to the low volume of EVs we are saving a fortune in running cost due to OEMs pushing the iniative with free charging everywhere...you wait another 5 years for the price to come down and I promise you your monthly bills will include EV charging. EVs are not expensive considering the low running cost or none at most times look at a early 90ah Rex I3 priced below R400 000 and have around 180km to 220km EV range and an additional 120 - 150km fuel backup range...and enjoy the incentives now...and use those savings and get energy independent with the savings today, get your home off the grid and live a more cost effective life
When Ciro said “kak”, I felt that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL,I see i was not the only one.
Very nice car, but R2 Million!?! For that price they should not only include the charger, but also a beach house with a butler.
A beach house with a butler 😂
🤣🤣💀💀
Main problems with electric cars:
1. Purchase price
2. Electricity quality
3. Public charging availability (specially when travelling to rural areas)
I know that, one day, we'll see hotels, restaurants and gas stations with charging points; but for now: plug-in hybrids are the way to go.
You commute electric, and travel using the combustion engine.
Very good point. The question is can a plug in hybrid successfully use electricity exclusively from combustion engine? I’m looking at the BMW ix and the dealership is not clear on this. 🤔
Listen, maybe im biased but to me you guys are the MOST UNDERRATED 'car review/entertainment' channel on YT.
I watch tonnes of various car reviewers DAILY (from Raitis rides, to Carwow, to TruckTube and more) and yes many are quite good but they lack the full package you people provide. Best part, I've just learned you're situated just down the road from me👊.
FINALLY, someone putting Bedfordview on the map--- for GOOD reasons 🤣🤙.
Seriously though, compared to other YT car reviewers I truly think you guys stand out the most. From quality of editing and filming, to knowledge about the products, and entertainment factor (definitely) you guys strike the best balance ive seen so far on YT (obviously barring the seasoned pro's like TGear and Drivetribe with budgets in the millions of POUNDS, you'll get there though.)
And not to trash talk the competition, but there's a very popular car review channel from England (I think) and honestly the best part about his reviews seem to be the catchy video thumbnails and descriptions, so it perplexes me how he has millions of subscribers when his overall production and presentation honestly don't come close to you guys. Not to say he's terrible, but you get my point.
Anyways, Keep it up Ciro, so proud of you guys. People can say what they want to about S.Africans but given our size and multiple dire situations we still punch far above our weight when we really want to.
God bless.
edit: Btw, nice LFA review, a timeless machine.
We don’t even have electricity
Do you really mean it when you say not having petrol cars is brilliant? Imagine not being able to rev the LFA anymore...
A commuter car is different, I'd take a 300km electric Polo as long as M3s still get made
Ali Makhutle there’s only two LFA in the country.... not like any of them is for sale.... not like we can afford them anyways (over R5m).
Vrooom,Vroooom!!! And then what???
@@itum3707 then R100 gone from your tank ...
@@gingerjacaranda yeah I saw that review by Ciro. I saw one at Lexus fourways, apparently owned by their group owner, I was told they bought it for R5m at the time and there were only two in the country. Now we know.
"froot" - 😂😂😂 that made my Friday
Another considerable benefit of full electric cars it the massively reduced maintenance bill over time... No oil changes, not air, fuel or oil filters, No belt or chain replacements, etc... and a lot less spent on brake pads, as you've mentioned!
But as long as we have tax hungry thieves in our Government, electric cars won't flourish as they don't contribute to the all important fuel levies, which seems like our state is developing an unhealthy dependency on.
What about maintenance on the electric engine? I’m considering a bmw ix and this is my concern. Has this been tested ?
Not with Eskom
You don't need eskom
It's actually still cheap with Eskom. And loadshedding is like 2 hours a day
surely you can dodge load shedding, but if 2% of cars in south Africa are electric there will be no electricity for the lights.
Yes numb nuts here forgets this car has a 400km range and that loadshedding is from one zone to another. For example if o need a charge and I'm heading to Century City I just continue to Cape Town and charge there less than 10kms away....EISH
You can use the three prong plug for day to day charging, in fact, trickle charging is preferable for the longevity of your battery. The reason why your extension cord melted is because it was too long, cable gauge wasn't large enough and wasn't rated for the amount of current the BMW i3 was drawing. As long as you don't overload the plug socket or use a bad extension cord, you can safely charge your EV from it.
Using the window as entrance, classic 🤣
I'm sorry but you can get a diesel Jaguar then for far far far less and it will use less fuel because it is diesel and the fuel cost will never amount to the premium you have to pay over and above a normal equivalent plus a wallbox. The inconvenience and the cost means it is pointless buying an electric car. And without government incentives, they are pointless since there are better and cheaper alternatives that will never consume as much fuel as the extra you pay for electric. Load shedding is not the only issue here. Electric cars still pretty much don't work in most countries because of these issues.
It is sad that we aren't getting small EV's like the Renault Zoe or the Honda E. I have heard that there is a MASSIVE import duty charge on EV's , reason why companies like Tesla aren't selling here either...
I 100% agree. GWM has an electric car called the Ora R1 and I think it's pretty neat and it's very affordable. South Africa is so behind in terms of these cars, if you look at India and some other African countries they have access to affordable EVs but in SA they cost the same as a flat or a house
@@cameron4907 it's sad. We are realistically 10 years or more behind Europe and The States regarding roll out and adoption.
They charge us emissions tax but make it impossible to buy cleaner cars 😂🤣
Bennett Chabalala You just answer your own question there.
Ciro. The price is intentional. Unfortunately the government makes more than R6 a litre of fuel in the form of levies. If electric vehicles disrupt the fuel market, it disrupts government revenue. So they will keep imposing heavy duties until they figure out how to tap into the EV market
Test drove it. It’s amazing. Seriously considering a change from turbo diesel.
Dude, if you can afford it. GO FOR IT! I would!
hmmm no wonder theres load shedding
😃😃😃
Lol you funny
The door handles were not stolen from Tesla at all, infact others manufacturers and other JLR models have been using that tech for nearly a decade.
The Mercedes SLS was like that
Will it work in south africa, no. Only for the rich. Eskom cant even cope now, add hundreds of thousands of car all taking 40 min to fully charge. Nooooo tnx
Tesla people going 8 years without changing their brakes? Has any Tesla been around for 8 years?
Selling a cellphone without a charger, doesn't make any sense. Welcome to the future.
What a way to go!
Those of you who do have the cash or to buy any of these lovely vehicle within a couple of year cash must first have a chat with me to not buy it cash with your own money.
Wishing you more than enough!
Francois
The higher cost of EVs can be attributed to import duties charged by the SA government. As far as I'm aware, electric cars pay an import tax of 25% while 18% is charged on combustion engine cars. It really should be at the lower rate... for both.
OUR corrupt SA government wants to keep electric cars out because they don't contribute a single cent to the fuel levies\taxes. The ANC (and many others) are not in the least interested in conserving our environment and our health. They are only interested in how much they can squeeze into their pockets in as little time as possible!
Held to ransom by vested interests
Long story short *No*
With the problem of load-shedding we currently facing, owning this car would be a joke. Compared to BMW electric car this is it but the price-wise it's too expensive. Why would they sell this car with an emergency charger in the first place? Like when I buy a cellphone I normally want it with an original charger, and I just make sure I don't break or lose the original charger because buying and using an ineffective charger that did not come with with the product can have adverse effects on your battery. So Jaguar should exercise on that.
Unless government start giving rebates South Africans aren't getting a fair deal. Additionally more charging stations are needed.
There are 200 currently a hundred of which are free to use and as someone who does roughly 6000kms a month they more than enough and oh do convenient
@@leeclarke3865 where do I find out about the 100 free ones?
Download the Plugshare app and see for yourself
It's extremely, extremely, extreme in every extreme way😂😂😂😂
Hopefully they will not work in South Africa or in Africa for that matter, I don't see myself waiting 8 days for my car to charge up, only to drive it for a few hours
🤦🏾♀️
not with Load shedding, stage 10 they coming for them electric cars.
Completely off topic but we're you driving around the Bedford area?
It doesn't deserve it's price. Over priced like German cars. With that cash i can buy a V8 RS7 or M5 or E63s. Or a Prius to safe the planet 😀
I'm such a joburger that I'd assume this was shot in Bedfordview Johannesburg 😜
Why is the car being daily driven by the CEO instead of by an actual journalist who needs to write and record a review?
I just started watching and I have to pause to say the beginning is fire!!! You are good. I did not expect that.
Hey boet I wouldn't be happy with u after closing my bonnet like u did wen closing this one
Well my Samsung phone only came with the USB cable. No charger 😢
No they won't because the idiots are gonna steal the cable
Buddy I'm left with no words to thank you
How long can you go with electric car without charging?
Here is South Africa they stealing cables
Ahhhh. Old view bedfordview!
The doors sound really clunky....
Hey there were the coffee shop ?
Pity they can't read though, first and number one rule charging your EV with emergency/overnight charger....DO NOT CONNECT TO AN EXTENSION LEAD, it won't be dangerous or explode then...lol...a bit off on the facts but then again he still has Petrol in in veins...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Umm.... no it wont. You need to be able to charge your car. Where will the electricity come from?? Eskom?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
11:07...
You seen that new iPhone 12??
6:20 dude what about service???🙄
I always smile when l watch your video. Great Content. Can you please work something out and review the Volvo XC90 Inscription.. the plug in hybrid. Hahahahaha IPhone Joke.
Electric vehicles are still far too expensive...better to wait for prices coming down and this spare wheel is a joke for that kind of money...
Running diesel engines on cooking oil only works in REALLY old cars, Modern turbo diesels will clog up their injectors instantly.
Enjoying Bedfordview are we...
Clearly driving in, out of peak traffic times.
How do you book for a test drive
The price of that charger and installation are extremely stressful. No ways
I would prefer a Tesla model X
Great review Ciro thanks but I'll pass for now, love the vrrrpah a little to much still :P
Yes and then eskom has a poopoo in its pants. you are stuffed. So no Eskom cannot carry the change.
It's like a cellphone you can pick up your girlfriend in.
Dude, it is Tesla with an esss. Not Tezlah like a souf efrikan.
What's with the Vlogs? Cameramen too expensive?
Does the CEO review cars too? why did they have that car for a month?
Rather buy a Tesla model X
I want an EV!
Please don't use vulgar words again :(
Aii man calm down
Where's Ciro?
Bring back Ciro please
can we have the 1 series
Bedfordview
Your advice about not using a 3 pin plug is just plain wrong, it's there for a reason. However cheap extension leads should not be used. Here in the UK I've travelled to friends and charged up overnight, just fine, without melting my cables.
R 1,900,000.00 ??????
Daily Cars - *Jaguar I-pace - Mercedes EQC - Audi E-Tron - Volvo XC40 Recharge - Mini Cooper SE - BMW i3 - VW I.D.3 - Nissan Leaf*
Weekend Cars - *Porsche GT3/GT4 - BMW M2 - Ford Mustang GT - Honda Civic Type R - Subaru WRX Sti - Toyota GT86 - Mazda MX-5*
Holiday Cars - *Range Rover - Mercedes G? - Audi Q?- BMW X? - Volvo XC? - Ford XLT - Toyota Fortuner - Subaru Outback - Nissan X-Trail*
So even if you have an EV, there's still plenty of petrol to burn😎 & cars to give your left leg a workout 🦿 #SaveTheManuals
The jaguar iPace is totally worth it in the long run only after installing a home Solar charger.
Electric cars do work in South Africa. Well mine works for me and I know all the other owners say the same. While some say "not ready for them" etc etc I’ll just continue driving mine at 18c/km - 5th of the price of petrol- and 70 g co2/km emission (even given that only half my charging comes from Solar).
Mine I bought second hand. It’s comfortable, very nimble, oh so so smooth and SILENT.
Yes, duties push up the price but the running costs are so low.
Great to see they brought this here even though it is super expensive. Hope they can bring the ID.3 under 600k impossible but I'm hoping
I think this is more of a study for jag building/pioneering a charging network locally
It is not very intelligent presentation it is a nutty nut not