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Dave and Krist were friends and still are friends. When someone as large as Kurt leaves the way he did, it leaves a hole inside everyone. Both had said that with the benefit of hindsight, each of them could have done more for Kurt but they didn't know how bad off he was as he and Courtney hid the extent of his problem well. They said Kurt would disappear for 2-3 days at a time when using and then he would clean up for a couple of months and get in the studio but after the In Utero tour, his usage increased, there were discussions of a divorce, the band was fighting behind the scenes because Kurt was off, etc. Dave and Krist both said they felt if they continued working together, they would always live in Kurt's shadow and everything they did would be compared to Nirvana. Krist has never said he was angry at Dave for starting a new band and not inviting him. Krist has even said that he understood why. Dave has even said that when they get together he instinctively goes to his drums because that is how he jammed with Krist. There is always a special relationship between a drummer and bassist as they both keep the guitarists in line!
I'm confused. Krist was already with Kurt and made Bleach. THEN they got Dave. There was no direct connection between the 2 prior. The first Foos album was recorded completely by Dave prior to his forming a band to play it. WHERE was the research on this video?
yeah it's absolutely rubbish, devoid of any content and utterly misleading title too. 4 mins in 'they decided not to play together to avoid discomfort.' Laughable. Why do these idiots bother making videos?
Grohl makes a point of emphasizing that he was one of a revolving door of Nirvana drummers. That band was essentially Cobain/Novoselic and whoever else. What Grohl joined was the Nirvana of _Bleach_ , and I doubt he thought his playing style was really fitting for that ensemble. In fact, if things had turned out differently, I bet Grohl eventually would have been replaced even if he hadn't been allowed to grow as a songwriter and vocalist. Novoselic has a sound reminiscent of Killing Joke's Paul Raven, and it's an integral part of the sound of Nirvana. Adding him to Foo Fighters would have resulted in something that I doubt he (and definitely Grohl) would have wanted, meaning, a Cobain-less Nirvana. If you doubt that, then listen to "I Should Have Known Better", which sounds both like Nirvana and Killing Joke, mainly because of Novoselic's presence. Foo Fighters is a better band than that.
Nate Mendel and William Goldsmith didn’t have anything to do with the Foo Fighters debut. Dave Grohl played every instrument, with the exception of a guitar solo on X-Static, played by Greg Dulli
plus a fair amount of information in this video isnt correct, dave grohl recorded the first foo fighters album by himself and the studio engineer, dave grohl was not in nirvana from the start he joined later on, wouldn't be surprised if there was more false facts in this video I missed.
Dave did all of the self titled album. Greg Dulli was the only other musician to play on the album. Playing guitar in a single song. "X-Static". Dave kept it anonymous as to who this band was and handed out copies to people. "The Colour and the Shape" is the first album to feature the musicians we'd come to know as the band. Dave did drums for all but 2 of the tracks.
Actually, Dave re-recorded the drum tracks on Color because Will Goldsmith wasn't playing what Dave was wanting. Will found out and was so mad he quit even tho Dave wanted him to stay on as a touring member of the band.
Nirvana was shit in the 90s and it's still shit now..grunge was the death of rock just shit making teenagers depressed is easy and also the hypocrisy out of grunge was pathetic as well. Losers
I don't know Krist well, but he is in my orbit. I have a sketch from his equally brilliant father. Krist is thoughtful, intelligent, and someone I respect for his grounded, brilliance. I love talking to him but do my best to not be a fan boy. All I can say is that sometimes meeting your hero is the best thing at the best time. Thank you Krist.
It’s really weird how much of this story they adjusted and isn’t really how things happened (it’s worded weirdly, like Krist started Nirvana as a creedance cover band, which just isn’t true, he may have thought of starting one, but Nirvana was Kurt’s band and him and Krist were old, really good friends) Which is odd considering the story of Nirvana and Foo Fighters has been told literally by the members of both bands, like she said Dave started making music after Nirvana and wrote, recorded and played all the instruments, then found a touring band and started work on the first Foos album, but Dave wrote and recorded that album alone and got the band together to tour it, none of them were involved in the first album. I wish these channels did even a little research, it’s not like Dave hasn’t told that story a hundred times.
Yeah it was hard to take the rest of it seriously after opening with that version of events. I really appreciate the focus on Krist's origins with the band, but we all know it was really Kurdt + Krist going through a bunch of different band names and drummers before deciding on Nirvana with eventually Chad on the stool for the longest time up until Dave appears.
bcuz whoever wrote this video was stupid n lazy. they don't know what they're talking about at all. that was a joke. she literally missed the joke n took it for reality. lol
I loved seeing them all reunite for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction. That performance was incredible and a great tribute to Kurt Cobain. The singers who performed Kurt’s songs, especially Joan Jett and St. Vincent were awesome. Miss you, Kurt.❤
In an interview years ago, Dave said he invited Krist to be in his band and Krist was already doing music with someone else at the time and said no thanks.
Foo Fighters were not the continuation of Nirvana. Why would it be expected that Krist would just join Grohls project? Krist and Kurt played together with 3 other drummers starting in 1987 before Dave Grohl joined Nirvana. Dave didnt join untill 1990. He wasnt even in the Seattle area before then. Nirvana was always Krist and Kurt's band Grohl joined later and those 3 became the Nirvana that the world knows. Pat joined 3 years after Grohl and was only with them less than a year.
That is awesome. So many bands I never got to see and nirvana is one I would of loved to see live. There are those bands and creators that are pivotal moments in music history and they were one of the biggest. You should count yourself lucky.
3rd Secret is great but i am missing a male singer somehow. If you like Krist then check out his older project with Meat Puppets and Sublime called Eyes Adrift or Giants In The Trees.
Guy can barely play the instrument, Grohl is a drummer he has no patients for a bassist that can't play on the beat. How anyone could think he was a suitable basses for grohl is out to lunch.
Krist said for years afterwards that he didnt really have the same desire to make and play music without Kurt, and thats why he never really bothered with anything that big.
Great video. Well done. Upvote given. I've been on a huge Grohl and Nirvana bender since finishing Dave's book last week. I wish they'd collaborate more than they have, but it's still nice to know that they are still friends in some capacity. The relationship between Dave and Krist is an enigma to me.
I had a friend that did himself in a year before Kurt. After Kurt did it something in my head snapped. Took years to get it back. Just recently started jamming to Nirvana again. Took a while, but time heals all wounds. Love them.
The story of how Dave got the gig in Nrivana is incorrect. He was drumming for Scream a D.C. punk band and they broke up in l.a. on tour in 1990. Buzz Osborne knew Scream and mentioned that Dave was available and in L.A. so Kurt and Krist had him come to Seattle to try out. The rest of the story we all know....
And the answer is.... "The reasons behind this choice were rooted in their desire to avoid any discomfort or tensions that might arise from the past" REALLY? That's fukin all you got to say?
I am glad that krist didn’t join the foo fighters. I don’t think they would have been as successful as they have been if he did. Nobody wants to be know as “the guys who were in nirvana just without curt”
He got into politics, but yeah for years he seemed happy enough pottering around with Volkswagens and doing interviews and music here and there. He was in Flipper for three years, and recently had another project that ended during the pandemic.
listen to the pronunciation at 2:35 of bassist. that combined with tons of incorrect facts and boiler plate Wikipedia scraping. a couple noted here. Dave joined nirvana while it had that name, the trio did not form and then become nirvana. Dave records everything on the first album as a solo project. Krist was collaborated with on later work, and on the record in 1995 said "For Krist and I, it would have felt really natural and really great,” Grohl continued, “But for everyone else, it would have been weird, and it would have left me in a really bad position. Then I really would have been under the microscope.” Basically he didnt want the band to have to live up to Nirvana, or create tension for newer band members.
That first FF is so good definitely sounds like a lot of ideas Dave had for Nirvana that hadn’t gotten made for whatever reason. Definitely sounds like a direction a new Nirvana album could have gone in.
I think he was probably trying to put those tracks forward for Nirvana, same as he did with Marigold. The official story is he just kept them in his basement until Nirvana was done then recorded them to see what happened. But hey.
Sweet 75 was NOT a 2 piece. Bill Rieflin was there from the beginning. Saw them at Brick by Brick in SD and talked with them at length, took pics, etc. Eddie Vedder was there to support his girlfriend Beth's band, Hovercraft, who were opening.
I heard quite a bit of misinformation in this video. Krist was trying to start a Creedence cover band with various drummers such as Aaron Burchard and Chad Channing, and then when he met Dave Grohl they formed Nirvana. Seriously? WTF? LOL
They saved the name Nirvana with Kurt. That is the point. So we think the NIRVANA at first. And then think about the other bands. That is the most good things for all members.
I'm new to this channel but is the narrator's variation in pronunciations intentional? I think Novoselic's name was delivered 3-4 different ways. She said his first name like "Christ" once (1:59) and even "bassist" was weird (2:36). It's almost like this was an AI reading.
yeah right on. nobody wants those two guys to play together in a band ever again! what a dumb answer. why would it matter if two of the guys were previously in another band, as long as the music was good who would care? only idiots, and they don't matter. but i guess they do because they vote.
@@shoeengine1161 i mean i could agree with what you're saying if they kept the name and replaced kurt. and maybe what you said factored in to Dave not asking Krist. the idea that some people would view it as trying to be nirvana 2.0. but that's just dumb of people. as long as they used a new name it's not them trying to replace Kurt. and if they had great songs they would have won those people over. maybe dave just wanted to do something completely fresh.
Dave obviously had a HUGE vision and the knowledge and skill to MAKE it happen. I would not have stood in the way of that either. Ride along, you bet. Try to Captain the boat, nope.
Dave had already started writing for Foo Fighters during Nirvana, Krist and Kurt thought it was their drummers silly little art project, and wasn’t going togo from one of the worlds best rock bands, to a silly little art project resulting in a semi cheesy rock band. Even though I like the foos.
Maybe it’s for all the right reasons… but cmon, the world deserved to see Dave, Pat and Krist together as a proper band and not only several years apart playing Nirvana songs. Tragic as it is, FF lost their drummer recently, may he rest in peace, and i would say this is the perfect time for them to get together. Also, why hasn’t Courtney, who was an accomplished musician and great singer on her own EVER played with them?
i'm gonna turn the video off when the narrator gets a major aspect of the band wrong in the first minute or so. she makes it sound like Krist and Dave were the two founding members and Kurt came later. she says Krist started a CCR cover band and it wasn't until after Dave came along that it turns into Nirvana. this is just fundamentally incorrect. Kurt and Krist may have been playing under other names but Nirvana existed BEFORE Dave was ever a member. Krist meeting Dave did not "lead" to the creation of Nirvana. FFS there's an entirely different drummer on the first Nirvana album. why do people who weren't even alive back then feel the need to make these kind of videos just for some clicks on youtube, and don't even put some basic research into it? and why do people never call this shit out? this person has no idea what shes talking about so why is she pretending to be some authority?
"Surpisingly, Krist Novoselic joined the project (Nirvana) with the intention of starting a Creedence Clearwater Revival band called the Sellouts." At the time, Krist was trolling clueless music journalists with that bullshit story, and apparently still is.
They didn't start working together on what would become the "bands" self titled debut. They started working on being able play live versions of those songs already recorded completely by Dave. And nice generic AI version of the "Monkey Wrench" riff at 2:22 🤣😂 Overall, this is still better than many, many other videos covering ancillary topics 🤘 A nice follow up would be a similar exploration of why David Lovering of the Pixies is not the drummer of the Foo Fighters 😉 Third Secret are awesome and thank you for honking their horn.
That riff's all Dave Grohl, not AI. Thanks for the shout-out and the love for Third Secret. As for David Lovering, that could be a rad topic too. Rock on and keep those awesome observations coming! 🎸😄🤘
@@SoundscapesRock was it really?!!! No way! But I already spoke publicly with arrogant assurance! There needs to be a perception of authority when I ramble on about the Gen Z scum and their damn auto tuned hip hop and pop country!
however, foo fighter would be a little different if dave didn't become a drummer for nirvana n nirvana already had a foundation before dave joined, it was the first album
I believe you undersold Pay Smear's role in Nirvana. He wasnt merely a "touring guitarist". If that were true, why did he receive a Lifetime Achievement Grammy for Nirvana along with Krist and Dave? Kurt also refered to him as a new band member in many interviews at the time.
i mean they maybe would have went on to use him as more than a touring guitarist but the fact is that up until the conclusion of Nirvana, he literally was merely a touring guitarist.
@@Geeksmithing dude i don't care what award some assholes gave him. i'm talking about his actual contribution to the band. instead of citing some stupid award why don't you point me to any of his credits on actual albums? i'll wait. wait no i won't, because i already know the answer- he isn't on any. the only thing he ever did with the band, was to tour with them for the In Utero tour. hence why he's remembered as a touring guitarist. but you can keep talking about your stupid award fact, like it somehow changes reality. do go on.
If memory serves correct Pat did actually join the band, and from the In Utero tour footage it's clear that he brought a lot of energy to the band and was loving every minute of it. Plus he's on Unplugged too. Although as you guys rightly point his tenure in the band was abruptly ended by Kurt's tragic demise
Stopped listening when she implied Chad was Pre Nirvana and Dave was a founding member. Bleach is really the only Nirvana record that matters and dave had nothing to do with that.
Another take like the other dude said here was that Dave was fed up with Kurt and was already working on what would become FF secretly, knowing he was probably going to eventually be done with Nirvana or they'd break up had Kurt not took his life. Where as Krist was more proactive trying to save Kurt and had a deeper and longer connection with him than Dave. Which I think Krist hadn't started work on anything outside of Nirvana until quite awhile later...which would seem like another inevitable reason Krist would never have been bandmates with Dave either way 🤔 🤷
Because Dave would have had to pay him more than the typical salary. Dave owns the band and any/other members are employees. Sure, he gives them a cut of the royalties, but he gets the lions share. He runs his band like Dave Mustaine. He's the boss...period.
I read an interview with Dave where he said he had most of the first album stuff already written, and some of it recorded like prior to Kurt being dead
1. What future *successes* of Krist Novoselic is she talking about? That one song with Paul McCartney? 2. At 2:03, of what other band's trajectory is she talking about? As she had just said, Nirvana was already over, with no trajectory at all. 3. What is she talking about at 2:42 when she says a trio of musicians worked on the Foo Fighters first album? With the exception of additional guitar on one song, Grohl played the whole album himself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters_(album)#Personnel P.S. The video covers the subject in the title for *just 15 seconds* starting at 3:38.
So he didn't join foo fighters because he didn't join foo fighters THANK YOU !! 👍😃 i had truly been wondering about that that cleared it RIGHT up bless you !!! 😍
Krist was on the song Walking A Line from their One By One album. Dave and Krist have both said the reason he didn't join was because they didn't want it to be seen as Nirvana 2.0
I was alive back then, and followed the band very closely. A lot of the info on this video is wrong. Even within the first minute and a half, there were so many inaccuracies.
I think some of it was how shattered Krist was, The last time he seen Kurt, Krist was trying to get him to rehab and a fistfight broke out, When the story was known years later, Krist stared at the ground and said Kirk shouldnt have done that, I wish he wouldn't have done that, Decades later and you could see it was still bothering him, Kirk was going to bust the band up, So Nirvana was basically over, Grohl knew it and was already working on his own stuff in private, Krist knew it and was simply trying to save a friend
I kinda thought this a couple times but didn't wanna believe Dave would do that and I guess we'll never really know what he truly was feeling or why and so forth. What I do know is its very hard to blame or accuse him of anything just for the simple fact alone I've been thru the process of trying to get a loved one to open their eyes/wake up and it's not easy. Some people just either don't understand it from personal experience esp needle addiction, so they sometimes don't put as much effort in or just don't know how to confront it. I could only imagine how much being multi millionaire musicians semi forced to work together would complicate trying to help someone. Plus at the same time still handle your own bs and head space too
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blah blah blah you superficial hypocrites
hello
Your research about Nirvana is absolutely clueless
The surviving members, Krist ,Dave and Pat still get together and play Nirvana songs together. That's endearing to me. Peace, love, empathy. ❤
Wat!?!
Who does the vocals? 😂
@@JasonTaylor90210 obviously Kurdt
Dude you’re not friends with them
@@ryantwitter343 who said theyre friends with them
Dave and Krist were friends and still are friends. When someone as large as Kurt leaves the way he did, it leaves a hole inside everyone. Both had said that with the benefit of hindsight, each of them could have done more for Kurt but they didn't know how bad off he was as he and Courtney hid the extent of his problem well. They said Kurt would disappear for 2-3 days at a time when using and then he would clean up for a couple of months and get in the studio but after the In Utero tour, his usage increased, there were discussions of a divorce, the band was fighting behind the scenes because Kurt was off, etc. Dave and Krist both said they felt if they continued working together, they would always live in Kurt's shadow and everything they did would be compared to Nirvana. Krist has never said he was angry at Dave for starting a new band and not inviting him. Krist has even said that he understood why. Dave has even said that when they get together he instinctively goes to his drums because that is how he jammed with Krist. There is always a special relationship between a drummer and bassist as they both keep the guitarists in line!
"Leaves a hole inside everyone" Dude.... lmao
@@barracklesnar your words not his dude
@@clavicol6875 ok virgin
@@barracklesnar sure, no problem
Nice summary
He’s such an underrated and under appreciated bassist and musician
Totally agree! Bassists are the unsung heroes of the band. 🎸
Everything that ever happened is underrated
@@plastik____şato I don't think Chris Squire is underrated!
i think 'oh uh oh' means 'shut up, krist
@@jaminjef or Paul Mccartney
I'm confused. Krist was already with Kurt and made Bleach. THEN they got Dave. There was no direct connection between the 2 prior. The first Foos album was recorded completely by Dave prior to his forming a band to play it. WHERE was the research on this video?
Apparently Nirvana didn't exist until Grohl joined.
yeah it's absolutely rubbish, devoid of any content and utterly misleading title too. 4 mins in 'they decided not to play together to avoid discomfort.' Laughable. Why do these idiots bother making videos?
Agreed, they act like Bleach never happened
Grohl makes a point of emphasizing that he was one of a revolving door of Nirvana drummers. That band was essentially Cobain/Novoselic and whoever else. What Grohl joined was the Nirvana of _Bleach_ , and I doubt he thought his playing style was really fitting for that ensemble. In fact, if things had turned out differently, I bet Grohl eventually would have been replaced even if he hadn't been allowed to grow as a songwriter and vocalist.
Novoselic has a sound reminiscent of Killing Joke's Paul Raven, and it's an integral part of the sound of Nirvana. Adding him to Foo Fighters would have resulted in something that I doubt he (and definitely Grohl) would have wanted, meaning, a Cobain-less Nirvana. If you doubt that, then listen to "I Should Have Known Better", which sounds both like Nirvana and Killing Joke, mainly because of Novoselic's presence. Foo Fighters is a better band than that.
Yeah, so much incorrect info in this video. Feels like it was just made for clicks... like most stuff is these days.
Nate Mendel and William Goldsmith didn’t have anything to do with the Foo Fighters debut. Dave Grohl played every instrument, with the exception of a guitar solo on X-Static, played by Greg Dulli
Correct, he built a touring band to promote the record then they became the 'real' band
How to take a 1 minute video and make it 7 minutes...
Lots on utoob do this
@@wankertanker1813 I don't typically watch many that do. Plus, this one is quite egregious...
plus a fair amount of information in this video isnt correct, dave grohl recorded the first foo fighters album by himself and the studio engineer, dave grohl was not in nirvana from the start he joined later on, wouldn't be surprised if there was more false facts in this video I missed.
@@Jesus-nc7wv good points.
Dave did all of the self titled album. Greg Dulli was the only other musician to play on the album. Playing guitar in a single song. "X-Static". Dave kept it anonymous as to who this band was and handed out copies to people. "The Colour and the Shape" is the first album to feature the musicians we'd come to know as the band. Dave did drums for all but 2 of the tracks.
Actually, Dave re-recorded the drum tracks on Color because Will Goldsmith wasn't playing what Dave was wanting. Will found out and was so mad he quit even tho Dave wanted him to stay on as a touring member of the band.
@@tencentpistol1 Yes this is true. But the end result is Dave only kept 2 of Goldsmith's tracks, hence he recorded all but 2.
@@lancelange9377 yeah, I read that as Grohl originally recorded those tracks without Will. We're both right, just a confusing sentence. 😉✌️🤘
Nirvana was shit in the 90s and it's still shit now..grunge was the death of rock just shit making teenagers depressed is easy and also the hypocrisy out of grunge was pathetic as well. Losers
@@tencentpistol1 I wasn't very detailed with my information, so it's understandable.
I don't know Krist well, but he is in my orbit. I have a sketch from his equally brilliant father. Krist is thoughtful, intelligent, and someone I respect for his grounded, brilliance. I love talking to him but do my best to not be a fan boy. All I can say is that sometimes meeting your hero is the best thing at the best time. Thank you Krist.
❤
Sounds like you come at him with the right energy and get the real Krist as a result, really glad for you :)
Well said, he seems like a really well rounded nice guy. Also happens to be a great bassist!
The Nirvana era was a magical time
It’s really weird how much of this story they adjusted and isn’t really how things happened (it’s worded weirdly, like Krist started Nirvana as a creedance cover band, which just isn’t true, he may have thought of starting one, but Nirvana was Kurt’s band and him and Krist were old, really good friends) Which is odd considering the story of Nirvana and Foo Fighters has been told literally by the members of both bands, like she said Dave started making music after Nirvana and wrote, recorded and played all the instruments, then found a touring band and started work on the first Foos album, but Dave wrote and recorded that album alone and got the band together to tour it, none of them were involved in the first album. I wish these channels did even a little research, it’s not like Dave hasn’t told that story a hundred times.
Yeah it was hard to take the rest of it seriously after opening with that version of events. I really appreciate the focus on Krist's origins with the band, but we all know it was really Kurdt + Krist going through a bunch of different band names and drummers before deciding on Nirvana with eventually Chad on the stool for the longest time up until Dave appears.
Yes, the facts are off
bcuz whoever wrote this video was stupid n lazy. they don't know what they're talking about at all. that was a joke.
she literally missed the joke n took it for reality. lol
It’s also an AI voice. Did you hear how she pronounced “bassist”? Is this just AI written? It does often confidently misstate facts after all.
Yeah also this video is just a whole bunch of nothing.
I loved seeing them all reunite for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction. That performance was incredible and a great tribute to Kurt Cobain. The singers who performed Kurt’s songs, especially Joan Jett and St. Vincent were awesome. Miss you, Kurt.❤
No matter what happens, I love Krist.
Krist had artistic integrity & taste
Learned more form the comments than from the video. Thanks you all!
In an interview years ago, Dave said he invited Krist to be in his band and Krist was already doing music with someone else at the time and said no thanks.
Foo Fighters were not the continuation of Nirvana. Why would it be expected that Krist would just join Grohls project? Krist and Kurt played together with 3 other drummers starting in 1987 before Dave Grohl joined Nirvana. Dave didnt join untill 1990. He wasnt even in the Seattle area before then. Nirvana was always Krist and Kurt's band Grohl joined later and those 3 became the Nirvana that the world knows. Pat joined 3 years after Grohl and was only with them less than a year.
Yes. Thank you.
Factcheck: Dave Grohl wrote and recorded the entire first album by himself. The rest of the band were recruited to tour it.
I think he just wanted to retire from the public eye after Nirvana split. Dave did actually invite him to join the Foo Fighters, but he said no.
Seeing "Nirvana" play live in Los Angeles is one of my favorite all-time concerts. RiP KC
That is awesome. So many bands I never got to see and nirvana is one I would of loved to see live. There are those bands and creators that are pivotal moments in music history and they were one of the biggest. You should count yourself lucky.
3rd Secret is great but i am missing a male singer somehow. If you like Krist then check out his older project with Meat Puppets and Sublime called Eyes Adrift or Giants In The Trees.
Totally get you on that one! Thanks for the cool suggestions.
Also he plays on a couple of flipper albums.
One of the most underrated bassists of all time.. The Base hooks on Nevermind are atmospheric and intense..
Lounge Act
He very mid bass player
Guy can barely play the instrument, Grohl is a drummer he has no patients for a bassist that can't play on the beat. How anyone could think he was a suitable basses for grohl is out to lunch.
@@dixonhill1108
Grohl has no patients in his hospital either
Krist said for years afterwards that he didnt really have the same desire to make and play music without Kurt, and thats why he never really bothered with anything that big.
Real answer is he can barely play the instrument.
Dave recorded all but one guitar part on the debut Foo Fighters album. The band formed after the competition of the recording.
I really wish Kurt would’ve gotten the help he needed. I miss him like a brother and I was born 8 years after he died
you are 21 years old? and you got a killer beard
@@-jank-willson thanks idk why I look so old lol
I was born a year before he died.
@@JasonTaylor90210 who?
I was born because he died.
Crazy how foo fighters music was trash when compared to the productions of Nirvana imo
Great video. Well done. Upvote given. I've been on a huge Grohl and Nirvana bender since finishing Dave's book last week. I wish they'd collaborate more than they have, but it's still nice to know that they are still friends in some capacity. The relationship between Dave and Krist is an enigma to me.
I had a friend that did himself in a year before Kurt. After Kurt did it something in my head snapped. Took years to get it back. Just recently started jamming to Nirvana again. Took a while, but time heals all wounds. Love them.
So sorry for your loss! Sending you love wherever you are..
ooh yess? u should camp in his cemetery and live there. u need to be by ur "friends" side forever
There’s so much wrong with the history here
Wrong, Dave grohl made the debut album by himself, and then formed the band afterwards
The story of how Dave got the gig in Nrivana is incorrect. He was drumming for Scream a D.C. punk band and they broke up in l.a. on tour in 1990. Buzz Osborne knew Scream and mentioned that Dave was available and in L.A. so Kurt and Krist had him come to Seattle to try out. The rest of the story we all know....
2:44 is wrong, Dave Grohl plays every instrument on the Foo's debut ST album
I didn't see that you already called her on that 👍
at 2:23, you weren't paying attention.
@odasyti doesn't change my statement, they said that the trio began working on the ST album...
Actually, Greg Dully, I'm sure I misspelled that, played guitar on X static.
@@jaminjef The Afghan Wigs guy?!
Bruh Dave Grohl joined Nirvana after they had already released their first album lol.
Narrator pronounced bassist in the wildest way I have ever heard. “Buh-cyst” 😂 2:36
It's a robot for sure. I'd say the whole video is AI written and narrated.
And the answer is....
"The reasons behind this choice were rooted in their desire to avoid any discomfort or tensions that might arise from the past"
REALLY? That's fukin all you got to say?
I am glad that krist didn’t join the foo fighters. I don’t think they would have been as successful as they have been if he did. Nobody wants to be know as “the guys who were in nirvana just without curt”
Absolutely, you make a good point!
I had no idea Novoselic still had a career, outside of the occasional contribution. I thought he pulled a John Deacon and retired right away.
He got into politics, but yeah for years he seemed happy enough pottering around with Volkswagens and doing interviews and music here and there. He was in Flipper for three years, and recently had another project that ended during the pandemic.
I’m saddened that The Stinky Puffs weren’t mentioned. It was the first time Krist and Dave got together to play after Nirvana.
Oh yeah, we’re all just Dying to hear about that 🙄 🔫
he became a politician. dont really know why, but ive heard mostly good things about him.
listen to the pronunciation at 2:35 of bassist.
that combined with tons of incorrect facts and boiler plate Wikipedia scraping.
a couple noted here.
Dave joined nirvana while it had that name, the trio did not form and then become nirvana.
Dave records everything on the first album as a solo project.
Krist was collaborated with on later work, and on the record in 1995 said "For Krist and I, it would have felt really natural and really great,” Grohl continued, “But for everyone else, it would have been weird, and it would have left me in a really bad position. Then I really would have been under the microscope.”
Basically he didnt want the band to have to live up to Nirvana, or create tension for newer band members.
if you watch some old Nirvana videos, you'll see how good Krists humour is
One of the funniest dudes I've ever seen
And a lot of that is now lost.
That first FF is so good definitely sounds like a lot of ideas Dave had for Nirvana that hadn’t gotten made for whatever reason. Definitely sounds like a direction a new Nirvana album could have gone in.
I think he was probably trying to put those tracks forward for Nirvana, same as he did with Marigold. The official story is he just kept them in his basement until Nirvana was done then recorded them to see what happened. But hey.
Sweet 75 was NOT a 2 piece. Bill Rieflin was there from the beginning. Saw them at Brick by Brick in SD and talked with them at length, took pics, etc. Eddie Vedder was there to support his girlfriend Beth's band, Hovercraft, who were opening.
I heard quite a bit of misinformation in this video. Krist was trying to start a Creedence cover band with various drummers such as Aaron Burchard and Chad Channing, and then when he met Dave Grohl they formed Nirvana. Seriously? WTF? LOL
Yeah this video has no credibility. Dude has Grohl as a founding member of Nirvana lol.
They saved the name Nirvana with Kurt. That is the point. So we think the NIRVANA at first. And then think about the other bands. That is the most good things for all members.
He is too tall and Dave Grohl has a height limit.
don’t forget the band was honored as hell to have pat playing with them, as a member of the germs.
I thought it was bc dave didn't want peopel to just call Foo Fighters Nirvana II.
Love The Foo Fighters ❤💋💜✌️💯
I'm new to this channel but is the narrator's variation in pronunciations intentional? I think Novoselic's name was delivered 3-4 different ways. She said his first name like "Christ" once (1:59) and even "bassist" was weird (2:36). It's almost like this was an AI reading.
the answer is very obvious. nobody wants nirvana reformed without kurt and called something else.
yeah right on. nobody wants those two guys to play together in a band ever again!
what a dumb answer. why would it matter if two of the guys were previously in another band, as long as the music was good who would care? only idiots, and they don't matter. but i guess they do because they vote.
@@ToxicBrainSludge fair point. on second hand... it could work. it worked with pat smear.
@@shoeengine1161 i mean i could agree with what you're saying if they kept the name and replaced kurt. and maybe what you said factored in to Dave not asking Krist. the idea that some people would view it as trying to be nirvana 2.0. but that's just dumb of people. as long as they used a new name it's not them trying to replace Kurt. and if they had great songs they would have won those people over. maybe dave just wanted to do something completely fresh.
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Dave didn't want to make things like 'second nirvana'
Never cite this video for accuracy. Dear lord...
Dave obviously had a HUGE vision and the knowledge and skill to MAKE it happen. I would not have stood in the way of that either. Ride along, you bet. Try to Captain the boat, nope.
How on earth did it take almost four minutes to get to the point of the video
The answer is at 03:43
Krist Novoscelic isnt one of my bass influences. He is my bass influence. I fn love Eyes Adift and Giants in the Trees
Krist Novoselic and your Mom are my two biggest bass influences.😮
He wasnt invited. Dave Grohl made the first Foo Fighter's by himself. Plus Krist had his own band, Sweet 66.
It was pretty cool when Krist joined Flipper for awhile during one of their reunions. I saw a live tape of it on RUclips -- wonder if it's still here.
This whole video felt like someone trying to get to a word count total in an essay. It also felt like it was written using chatGPT..
Crazy I was JUST thinking about this questions yesterday!
As a Croatian, like Krist, it's pronounced Novo-selitch. You're welcome.
You crazy Yugoslavs.
We started WW1, bro.
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Tom Novo-Selleck would be proud.
check out giants in the trees too. The music is diverse, i appreciate krist stretching out. I think it's about being authentic for him, just a guess.
very nice and enlightening
Dave had already started writing for Foo Fighters during Nirvana, Krist and Kurt thought it was their drummers silly little art project, and wasn’t going togo from one of the worlds best rock bands, to a silly little art project resulting in a semi cheesy rock band. Even though I like the foos.
Maybe it’s for all the right reasons… but cmon, the world deserved to see Dave, Pat and Krist together as a proper band and not only several years apart playing Nirvana songs. Tragic as it is, FF lost their drummer recently, may he rest in peace, and i would say this is the perfect time for them to get together.
Also, why hasn’t Courtney, who was an accomplished musician and great singer on her own EVER played with them?
Cuz she killed and stole their meal ticket
i'm gonna turn the video off when the narrator gets a major aspect of the band wrong in the first minute or so. she makes it sound like Krist and Dave were the two founding members and Kurt came later. she says Krist started a CCR cover band and it wasn't until after Dave came along that it turns into Nirvana.
this is just fundamentally incorrect. Kurt and Krist may have been playing under other names but Nirvana existed BEFORE Dave was ever a member. Krist meeting Dave did not "lead" to the creation of Nirvana.
FFS there's an entirely different drummer on the first Nirvana album.
why do people who weren't even alive back then feel the need to make these kind of videos just for some clicks on youtube, and don't even put some basic research into it? and why do people never call this shit out? this person has no idea what shes talking about so why is she pretending to be some authority?
"Surpisingly, Krist Novoselic joined the project (Nirvana) with the intention of starting a Creedence Clearwater Revival band called the Sellouts."
At the time, Krist was trolling clueless music journalists with that bullshit story, and apparently still is.
They didn't start working together on what would become the "bands" self titled debut. They started working on being able play live versions of those songs already recorded completely by Dave. And nice generic AI version of the "Monkey Wrench" riff at 2:22 🤣😂 Overall, this is still better than many, many other videos covering ancillary topics 🤘 A nice follow up would be a similar exploration of why David Lovering of the Pixies is not the drummer of the Foo Fighters 😉 Third Secret are awesome and thank you for honking their horn.
That riff's all Dave Grohl, not AI. Thanks for the shout-out and the love for Third Secret. As for David Lovering, that could be a rad topic too. Rock on and keep those awesome observations coming! 🎸😄🤘
@@SoundscapesRock was it really?!!! No way! But I already spoke publicly with arrogant assurance! There needs to be a perception of authority when I ramble on about the Gen Z scum and their damn auto tuned hip hop and pop country!
however, foo fighter would be a little different if dave didn't become a drummer for nirvana n nirvana already had a foundation before dave joined, it was the first album
Prob because dave was always the best pure musician in that group. People think bands like that just happen but there is SO much more to it.
Krist is underrated for the talent he has as a bassist
He a very mid bass player
Forget about talent, it won't get you any skills.
I believe you undersold Pay Smear's role in Nirvana. He wasnt merely a "touring guitarist". If that were true, why did he receive a Lifetime Achievement Grammy for Nirvana along with Krist and Dave? Kurt also refered to him as a new band member in many interviews at the time.
i mean they maybe would have went on to use him as more than a touring guitarist but the fact is that up until the conclusion of Nirvana, he literally was merely a touring guitarist.
@@ToxicBrainSludge the fact is he got a Grammy for Nirvana. If he wasn't in the band, why would just a "touring guitarist" receive that?
@@Geeksmithing dude i don't care what award some assholes gave him. i'm talking about his actual contribution to the band.
instead of citing some stupid award why don't you point me to any of his credits on actual albums? i'll wait. wait no i won't, because i already know the answer- he isn't on any.
the only thing he ever did with the band, was to tour with them for the In Utero tour. hence why he's remembered as a touring guitarist.
but you can keep talking about your stupid award fact, like it somehow changes reality. do go on.
If memory serves correct Pat did actually join the band, and from the In Utero tour footage it's clear that he brought a lot of energy to the band and was loving every minute of it. Plus he's on Unplugged too. Although as you guys rightly point his tenure in the band was abruptly ended by Kurt's tragic demise
Skip to 3:35 for the answer. And it’s only a 15 second explanation 😂
Did she just say BASSIST like.. B-assist?
Not how Nirvana formed.... Dave was a late member. Krist and dave didn't meet and form Nirvana. It's like "NIrvana 101".
Ummm dave didn't come into Nirvana until nevermind. Tge beginning of this video is wrong or worded weirdly 🤔
Because...Foo Fighters are tame, construction, radio RAWK?
Probably because, when they asked for a sacrifice, he didn't think they meant, Literally.
Of course....I'm only joking....
...Or am I?
Actually Dave has recorded all the instruments himself
It’s tough to find 3-4 people who can keep it together and start a band.
That base sound got me wanting to listen to Nirvana - Blew
Stopped listening when she implied Chad was Pre Nirvana and Dave was a founding member. Bleach is really the only Nirvana record that matters and dave had nothing to do with that.
In my opinion, Dave's vision for FF was to achieve success with exceptional players, avoiding any comparisons to Nirvana. FF rocks!
Another take like the other dude said here was that Dave was fed up with Kurt and was already working on what would become FF secretly, knowing he was probably going to eventually be done with Nirvana or they'd break up had Kurt not took his life. Where as Krist was more proactive trying to save Kurt and had a deeper and longer connection with him than Dave. Which I think Krist hadn't started work on anything outside of Nirvana until quite awhile later...which would seem like another inevitable reason Krist would never have been bandmates with Dave either way 🤔 🤷
Krist did play bass and accordion on I Should Have Known on Wasting Light
Because Dave would have had to pay him more than the typical salary. Dave owns the band and any/other members are employees. Sure, he gives them a cut of the royalties, but he gets the lions share. He runs his band like Dave Mustaine. He's the boss...period.
I read an interview with Dave where he said he had most of the first album stuff already written, and some of it recorded like prior to Kurt being dead
Well, that's just Nirvana without Kurt.
1. What future *successes* of Krist Novoselic is she talking about? That one song with Paul McCartney?
2. At 2:03, of what other band's trajectory is she talking about? As she had just said, Nirvana was already over, with no trajectory at all.
3. What is she talking about at 2:42 when she says a trio of musicians worked on the Foo Fighters first album? With the exception of additional guitar on one song, Grohl played the whole album himself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters_(album)#Personnel
P.S. The video covers the subject in the title for *just 15 seconds* starting at 3:38.
So he didn't join foo fighters because he didn't join foo fighters THANK YOU !! 👍😃 i had truly been wondering about that that cleared it RIGHT up bless you !!! 😍
It’s quite simple. The Foo Fighters aren’t Nirvana. Why would he be a member? Dave wanted to start writing a new chapter.
Kirst was a childhood friend of Kurt's and really didn't want to do it full time anymore .
Krist was on the song Walking A Line from their One By One album. Dave and Krist have both said the reason he didn't join was because they didn't want it to be seen as Nirvana 2.0
Im disappointed that the title isnt "Why Krist Novoselic didn't fight the foo"
This is a great topic for a video
Iconic is such an overused word.
'to avoid any discomfort and tension that might arise from the past'.
Saved you 7 minutes.
I was alive back then, and followed the band very closely. A lot of the info on this video is wrong. Even within the first minute and a half, there were so many inaccuracies.
After Kurt died, Krist and Dave had their own projects. They went their separate ways.
Death of nirvana was the birth of the Foo Fighters.. it just had to happen that way.
I think some of it was how shattered Krist was, The last time he seen Kurt, Krist was trying to get him to rehab and a fistfight broke out, When the story was known years later, Krist stared at the ground and said Kirk shouldnt have done that, I wish he wouldn't have done that, Decades later and you could see it was still bothering him,
Kirk was going to bust the band up, So Nirvana was basically over, Grohl knew it and was already working on his own stuff in private, Krist knew it and was simply trying to save a friend
I kinda thought this a couple times but didn't wanna believe Dave would do that and I guess we'll never really know what he truly was feeling or why and so forth. What I do know is its very hard to blame or accuse him of anything just for the simple fact alone I've been thru the process of trying to get a loved one to open their eyes/wake up and it's not easy. Some people just either don't understand it from personal experience esp needle addiction, so they sometimes don't put as much effort in or just don't know how to confront it. I could only imagine how much being multi millionaire musicians semi forced to work together would complicate trying to help someone. Plus at the same time still handle your own bs and head space too