Thank You Brien! I'm a BIG fan of yours! Any chance that you could give YOUR opinion as to what that rock is? I'm planning on visiting Cusco in 2021. I'll be focusing on Sacsay, Ollantay,, and Machu Pic'chu. I'd love it if we could correspond before then!
The commentary suggests the lintels were destroyed because they looked evil; and this kept out attackers better than any door; yet someone went along and destroyed them all and took them away; however the captions suggest quite alternatively that the attackers stole the lintels to get the gold faces....I would suggest the lintels contained the door mechanisms, which may have been curtains or energy fields, or something in between.
This is a fascinating series of videos, thank you for providing so much background and insight! Your observation about the apparent lack of hinges and doors was something I had never considered. Yet, they must of had some way to block the wind and keep in heat. Perhaps a heavy fabric that could be held up sticks or ropes, as a curtain? I know, the thought of something like a bed sheet hanging in this magnificent stone doorway sounds silly, but unless these were just ceremonial structures and never occupied in cold weather, there had to be a way to block the wind and conserve heat.
We naturally assume that big strong walls were built to protect the people inside. But in this particular case, the absence of doors contradicts this idea, and the majority of enemies would not be scared away by any image. This place may therefore have served a different purpose, perhaps as a scientific institute, and not as a fort.
If the Inca had one of their various gods carved into the stone, that alone would have been a reason for the spanish to destroy it after the conquest. The spanish saw the andeans’ polytheism as a form of pagan idolatry, and did whatever they could to try to snuff out the indigenous religion, including destroying thousands of the statues that were worshipped at sacred sites.
@@graemepeters5717 yeah they did. The inca chose people skilled in oration to be fully dedicated to remembering their history, converting it into songs to help it be remembered, and they tracked the number of workers in their quipus. Sacsayhuaman was constructed over four different rulers. Spanish chronicler Cieza de Leon then wrote down that history in 1553, and radio carbon dating at those sites have now also confirmed their oral history was correct. An earlier killke culture was found at sacsayhuaman, but it’s more primitive w/ no megaliths. From Cieza: "Inca Yupanqui entertained far-reaching thoughts." ... "he had erected other great edifices, he resolved to build another house of the Sun which should surpass all existing temples" ... "The Inca ordered that the provinces should provide 20,000 men and that the villages should send the necessary provisions... There were 4,000 labourers whose duty it was to quarry and get out the stones; 6,000 conveyed them by means of great cables of leather and of cabuya [Fibre of Agava tuberosa] to the works. The rest opened the ground and prepared the foundations, some being told off to cut the posts and beams for the wood-work. ... "Overseers were stationed to superintend, and there were great masters of the art of building who had been well instructed. Thus on the highest part of a hill to the north of the city, and little more than an arquebus-shot from it, this fortress was built which the natives called the House of the Sun, but which we named the Fortress." … “The living rock was excavated for the foundation, which was prepared with such solidity that it will endure as long as the world itself… All the stones are laid and joined with such delicacy that a coin could not be put in between two of them."
@@philipthomas3938 pretty sure that you’re thinking of tiwanaku / puma punka near lake titacaca, not these inca sites. It is true that there is no oral history of that more southern megalithic architecture. If you’re sure what you heard was about the inca, not the tiwanaku, then please provide a source, because that contradicts the spanish chroniclers accounts.
Incans working andesite with what tools? Their oral history must tell!??? Paracus elongated skull redheads in Genesis of Incan power ...Easter island statues with red hats = redhaired topknot style ...hard basalt made not by stoneage Polynesians as your mainstream narrative claims...
Since theres no door now I assume there wasnt ever roofs as well? Im almost positive they used wood,palm,or skins for doors just like they hade roofs to keep out the rain.
How about they weren't finished building enough to post up the lintels? Anyone look for a quarry in the area, maybe they were still being carved into shape. No need for doors when you have guards with spears. You don't have a theory, you have a hypothesis. Single out of place stone is not proof.
Interesting idea.. To me it seems that which ever culture created the megalithic works, weren't bothered with artistic embellishment as the stones were an expression of artwork in themselves, there is no engraving (beyond the tool marks) or embossed relief like we see in Egypt and Gobekli Tepe or in the later works of the Inca, Maya etc..
How the whole of the construction was carried out has to be addressed. I don't need to be told themethods are not known .If people think that then they need to sleep on it for a while.
Investigate the rock face across from Sacsayhuaman. You will find answers. You will have to use your imagination a bit but you may find some explanations of what Sacsayhuaman was.
It's an interesting theory, but I am not sold. We can't say there were no doors unless we have the lintels. That is where the pivot holes for the doors would be...just as wee see in Egypt. The fragment of stone here may have been part of a lintel, but that is just conjecture.
On seeing the reconstructed image on the lintel I immediately thought not of a scary demon but of the Sheela na gig on Kilpeck church. A symbolic representation of the Earth Mother or Mother Nature. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig
Hmm Ive never gotten the scary, bloodlust Aztec/Maya vibe from Ancient Builder Culture work Edit: did the Inca even make those freaky characters with their tongues sticking out and stuff like the Aztec and Maya did? Doesn't seem like I've seen that either
It's all part of the vomit that comes out of mainstream media for us to follow some certain way of thinking that fits the lies that they shove down our throat for the last couple hundred years but now all the sudden all this evidence is coming out and they still claim the same bulshit
The inca didn’t really tend to do carving directly on their stone work, except a few places that have very simple snakes, puma or llamas. The saw the stone as sacred in itself, not needing extra religion symbols etched upon it. They did have a lot of idol statues made of wood, gold and/or silver, and a golden sun idol, but the spanish destroyed most of those, seeing it as pagan idolatry, where any precious metals were melted down. A few of them survived, but from what I’ve seen they’re not all vicious looking like the mesoamerican cultures, more human looking.
OK, these structures were made thousands of years prior to any know civilization. The block you propose is not a lintel. The megalithic builders were highly advanced and would be doubtful if they used some 'scary' mask to keep invaders away.
The incas were magnificent builders. Pachacuted who transformed everything the fourth corners of peru . But I thanks the incas who took all theirs secret with them .
@@susannebrunberg4174 the local people will tell you more about who built it. Not brien foster , second the incas made so much gold art craft that you need machine to achieve it so they also found a house full of gold . You don't know nothin about the incas , go to peru but get a local people they will explain to you much better way then those people who tell you lie or different story
True,, you can't keep cold, weather, and animals out with just a scary face,,, but, with fires burning on the other side,, and the smell of humans everywhere,, and those faces looking down at me from every entranceway,, I can tell you that I wouldn't have gone in there! If I were a squirrel, I have found my nuts elsewhere. And if I were a hunter, I would have pointed my spear in the other direction and ran for my life. No hinged doors needed!
Your byline regarding keeping an open mind suggests you might listen to or consider another theory. So I brave a comment. Perhaps your theory of the human destruction of the lentels due to fearful carvings holds merit. But have you even considered the possibility of a cataclysmic event mundial? If, for instance, this event occurred, the sheer force coming through the portal would knock the lentel off its perch. Just a thought. And, oh yeah, you might consider the fact that the geological evidence of such an event has been acknowledged by many experts and scientists for years.
According to Incan oral history Sacsayhuaman was completed shortly before the spanish conquest. The spanish chroniclers write of it shortly after the conquest. It was still intact during the siege of cusco, when the inca rebelled after the spanish had taken over their empire. The Inca captured sacsayhuaman, and were using it as a fortress in their attack on cusco, before it was recaptured by the spanish. In the years that followed the spanish began dismantling the site in order to use the stones in their churches and other buildings. So I guess you’re right if you consider the spanish conquest to be the cataclysmic event, but it wasn’t some natural disaster, not destroyed by comets or earthquakes or floods.
There is NO evidence supporting this wild speculation that a certain block of stone is one of the missing lintels. The fact that it is carved actually argues AGAINST the possibility because none of the lintels at the various South American sites have carvings, except the Gate of the Sun and the Gate of the Moon at Tiwanaku, where there is evidence that these was carved by people who came thousands of years after Puma Punku and these gates at Tiwanaku were built. The fact that it lies not far from Sacsayhuaman is not itself evidence. Lots of stones from that site were stolen as building material. Why would someone bother to steal a stone of the wrong shape and then cut it to size, leaving the carved bit behind, when there would be available lots of blocks of the right shape and size?
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Great job.
Thank You Brien! I'm a BIG fan of yours! Any chance that you could give YOUR opinion as to what that rock is? I'm planning on visiting Cusco in 2021. I'll be focusing on Sacsay, Ollantay,, and Machu Pic'chu. I'd love it if we could correspond before then!
@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 my pleasure
A very reasonable hypothesis, you may just be right this Harvey
those polygonal walls are the spookiest thing on earth
Wow! Good work Harvey!
The commentary suggests the lintels were destroyed because they looked evil; and this kept out attackers better than any door; yet someone went along and destroyed them all and took them away; however the captions suggest quite alternatively that the attackers stole the lintels to get the gold faces....I would suggest the lintels contained the door mechanisms, which may have been curtains or energy fields, or something in between.
Hmmmm….well, let’s just see where Mr. Turner will take us from here! Great job so far 🦢
Great find !!!way to research !!
This is a fascinating series of videos, thank you for providing so much background and insight! Your observation about the apparent lack of hinges and doors was something I had never considered. Yet, they must of had some way to block the wind and keep in heat. Perhaps a heavy fabric that could be held up sticks or ropes, as a curtain? I know, the thought of something like a bed sheet hanging in this magnificent stone doorway sounds silly, but unless these were just ceremonial structures and never occupied in cold weather, there had to be a way to block the wind and conserve heat.
The nubs, or odd protrusions on some megalithic rocks drive me nuts.
They don't drive me nuts per say but they definitely do something to me nuts.
We naturally assume that big strong walls were built to protect the people inside.
But in this particular case, the absence of doors contradicts this idea, and the majority of enemies would not be scared away by any image.
This place may therefore have served a different purpose, perhaps as a scientific institute, and not as a fort.
Pretty good theory here. Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
I wouldn't dare go through a doorway because of a scary carved face? Come'on man!!
If the Inca had one of their various gods carved into the stone, that alone would have been a reason for the spanish to destroy it after the conquest. The spanish saw the andeans’ polytheism as a form of pagan idolatry, and did whatever they could to try to snuff out the indigenous religion, including destroying thousands of the statues that were worshipped at sacred sites.
The Incans didn't build this part of the structure.
@@graemepeters5717 yeah they did. The inca chose people skilled in oration to be fully dedicated to remembering their history, converting it into songs to help it be remembered, and they tracked the number of workers in their quipus. Sacsayhuaman was constructed over four different rulers. Spanish chronicler Cieza de Leon then wrote down that history in 1553, and radio carbon dating at those sites have now also confirmed their oral history was correct. An earlier killke culture was found at sacsayhuaman, but it’s more primitive w/ no megaliths. From Cieza: "Inca Yupanqui entertained far-reaching thoughts." ... "he had erected other great edifices, he resolved to build another house of the Sun which should surpass all existing temples" ... "The Inca ordered that the provinces should provide 20,000 men and that the villages should send the necessary provisions... There were 4,000 labourers whose duty it was to quarry and get out the stones; 6,000 conveyed them by means of great cables of leather and of cabuya [Fibre of Agava tuberosa] to the works. The rest opened the ground and prepared the foundations, some being told off to cut the posts and beams for the wood-work. ... "Overseers were stationed to superintend, and there were great masters of the art of building who had been well instructed. Thus on the highest part of a hill to the north of the city, and little more than an arquebus-shot from it, this fortress was built which the natives called the House of the Sun, but which we named the Fortress." … “The living rock was excavated for the foundation, which was prepared with such solidity that it will endure as long as the world itself… All the stones are laid and joined with such delicacy that a coin could not be put in between two of them."
@@TonyTrupp incans laughed at the suggestion they built these megalithic sites and said it was ancient work of the viracochas they'd reoccupied ...
@@philipthomas3938 pretty sure that you’re thinking of tiwanaku / puma punka near lake titacaca, not these inca sites. It is true that there is no oral history of that more southern megalithic architecture. If you’re sure what you heard was about the inca, not the tiwanaku, then please provide a source, because that contradicts the spanish chroniclers accounts.
Incans working andesite with what tools? Their oral history must tell!??? Paracus elongated skull redheads in Genesis of Incan power ...Easter island statues with red hats = redhaired topknot style ...hard basalt made not by stoneage Polynesians as your mainstream narrative claims...
Thank you for your work
Since theres no door now I assume there wasnt ever roofs as well? Im almost positive they used wood,palm,or skins for doors just like they hade roofs to keep out the rain.
How about they weren't finished building enough to post up the lintels? Anyone look for a quarry in the area, maybe they were still being carved into shape.
No need for doors when you have guards with spears. You don't have a theory, you have a hypothesis. Single out of place stone is not proof.
not even is the one stone proved to be a part of anything
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Much history is preserved by story tellers. ;-)
Hey.... I like your humor. It's funny.
That's quite a stretch. Doorways would be easy to defend. Interesting Speculation.
Interesting idea.. To me it seems that which ever culture created the megalithic works, weren't bothered with artistic embellishment as the stones were an expression of artwork in themselves, there is no engraving (beyond the tool marks) or embossed relief like we see in Egypt and Gobekli Tepe or in the later works of the Inca, Maya etc..
How the whole of the construction was carried out has to be addressed.
I don't need to be told themethods are not known .If people think that then they need to sleep on it for a while.
Have you watched my 'Clues at Ollantaytambo,,'?
Quite a stretch. But very interesting
Investigate the rock face across from Sacsayhuaman. You will find answers. You will have to use your imagination a bit but you may find some explanations of what Sacsayhuaman was.
It's an interesting theory, but I am not sold. We can't say there were no doors unless we have the lintels. That is where the pivot holes for the doors would be...just as wee see in Egypt. The fragment of stone here may have been part of a lintel, but that is just conjecture.
What about stones moved into place to block the doorways like that underground place in Turkey Derinkuyu misspelled
are the other lintels limestone ? I have an andesite candidate for you
so please share ;)
@@83ruffrider take :12 seconds see my vid Pre Inca writing
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@@83ruffrider thanks just the same
Or just maybe they didn't need doors because everyone was friendly.
really cool
can fright enter the open mind?
On seeing the reconstructed image on the lintel I immediately thought not of a scary demon but of the Sheela na gig on Kilpeck church. A symbolic representation of the Earth Mother or Mother Nature.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig
Hmm Ive never gotten the scary, bloodlust Aztec/Maya vibe from Ancient Builder Culture work
Edit: did the Inca even make those freaky characters with their tongues sticking out and stuff like the Aztec and Maya did? Doesn't seem like I've seen that either
It's all part of the vomit that comes out of mainstream media for us to follow some certain way of thinking that fits the lies that they shove down our throat for the last couple hundred years but now all the sudden all this evidence is coming out and they still claim the same bulshit
The inca didn’t really tend to do carving directly on their stone work, except a few places that have very simple snakes, puma or llamas. The saw the stone as sacred in itself, not needing extra religion symbols etched upon it. They did have a lot of idol statues made of wood, gold and/or silver, and a golden sun idol, but the spanish destroyed most of those, seeing it as pagan idolatry, where any precious metals were melted down. A few of them survived, but from what I’ve seen they’re not all vicious looking like the mesoamerican cultures, more human looking.
I like it.... good job kid
Sounds very reasonable
OK, these structures were made thousands of years prior to any know civilization. The block you propose is not a lintel. The megalithic builders were highly advanced and would be doubtful if they used some 'scary' mask to keep invaders away.
OK,, any idea what it may be then?
Sad state of affairs for ancient America
"Sacsayhuaman" sounds like Borat saying "Sexy women".
like hanuman, maybe a different type of "human
ish" species.
It is a giant battery it wouldn't need lintels the stones are peizo-electric have you seen images from above.... Looks like computer components...
Fear of punishment only applies to citizens under that regime. Invading armies do not care about local rule. Did they not have to fear invasions?
looks like a sile na gig.......used in doorways.
The incas were magnificent builders. Pachacuted who transformed everything the fourth corners of peru . But I thanks the incas who took all theirs secret with them .
Absolute BS. Dig Deeper
@@TheDAT9 B.S is you believe in brien theory that is 💯 B.S.
@@TheDAT9 talk to the local people and you will.learn more
Don't think the incas built the megalitic constructions... as they told the Spaniards that they had found these sites...
@@susannebrunberg4174 the local people will tell you more about who built it. Not brien foster , second the incas made so much gold art craft that you need machine to achieve it so they also found a house full of gold . You don't know nothin about the incas , go to peru but get a local people they will explain to you much better way then those people who tell you lie or different story
Oh, they originally had doors, lol. More importantly of the lintels still at polygonal sites, theres no monsters 😂
Lol just realized that looks like something out of Dark Souls
Sorry, the idea of fear contradicts to an open mind. Fear is just an oversimplified answare.
I enjoy this theory but you can keep cold, weather, and animals out with just a scary face.
True,, you can't keep cold, weather, and animals out with just a scary face,,, but, with fires burning on the other side,, and the smell of humans everywhere,, and those faces looking down at me from every entranceway,, I can tell you that I wouldn't have gone in there! If I were a squirrel, I have found my nuts elsewhere. And if I were a hunter, I would have pointed my spear in the other direction and ran for my life. No hinged doors needed!
....your theory makes waaay more sense than the "official line" does...............
Your byline regarding keeping an open mind suggests you might listen to or consider another theory. So I brave a comment. Perhaps your theory of the human destruction of the lentels due to fearful carvings holds merit. But have you even considered the possibility of a cataclysmic event mundial? If, for instance, this event occurred, the sheer force coming through the portal would knock the lentel off its perch. Just a thought. And, oh yeah, you might consider the fact that the geological evidence of such an event has been acknowledged by many experts and scientists for years.
According to Incan oral history Sacsayhuaman was completed shortly before the spanish conquest. The spanish chroniclers write of it shortly after the conquest. It was still intact during the siege of cusco, when the inca rebelled after the spanish had taken over their empire. The Inca captured sacsayhuaman, and were using it as a fortress in their attack on cusco, before it was recaptured by the spanish. In the years that followed the spanish began dismantling the site in order to use the stones in their churches and other buildings. So I guess you’re right if you consider the spanish conquest to be the cataclysmic event, but it wasn’t some natural disaster, not destroyed by comets or earthquakes or floods.
Cataclysm occured, yes... But look at the other megalitic constructions in Peru etc... The stones are still there
The inhabitants were pretty terrifying as well, as can be seen by their skulls. In fact their spirits are still around they are known as demons!
🙂
Birth of the sun god horus
Keep thinking
There is NO evidence supporting this wild speculation that a certain block of stone is one of the missing lintels. The fact that it is carved actually argues AGAINST the possibility because none of the lintels at the various South American sites have carvings, except the Gate of the Sun and the Gate of the Moon at Tiwanaku, where there is evidence that these was carved by people who came thousands of years after Puma Punku and these gates at Tiwanaku were built. The fact that it lies not far from Sacsayhuaman is not itself evidence. Lots of stones from that site were stolen as building material. Why would someone bother to steal a stone of the wrong shape and then cut it to size, leaving the carved bit behind, when there would be available lots of blocks of the right shape and size?
Idiotic opinions like mine .... I dont have any today but "keep an open mind" I like that for idiocy is a closed mind.
I just love wild guessing..
I appreciate an open mind but jumping to conclusions is not helpful thanks.
Why should we care?
for the sake of you tube video
Speculating isn’t »finding«! 👎🏻
BS