So sad we dont get a good hdr expierience in a sci-fi game with all the stars, suns, lasers and so on. Not to mention the "pitch black" sea. Bethesda really missed a chance to shine here.
The elevated black levels are really annoying. Overall, I think it's a very good update. The 40 FPS mode runs really well, with some dips in New Atlantis
The raised blacks and slightly flat presentation is obviously an art choice. Especially because the title screen uses real blacks. Sdr is pretty much the same minus the highlights. Can't say I love it but it does seem to be implemented properly.
Bummer they didn't improve it. Sadly most devs don't make any effort to improve HDR after release. Keep up the good work, my dude. Hopefully you'll revisit Elden Ring once the DLC is out.
@@XDLugia I don’t think BGS think the HDR is a problem. It’s their “artistic choice” for the washed out black levels. It looks terrible but it’s what they want. I play on PC and fix it with Reshade
@@teddyholiday8038 The lack of surface maps was also an artistic choice, but they changed that recently. I'm not holding my breath, but I know there is a chance for improvement.
@@RealTroyE23 this has nothing to do with the hardware,its massive but it does not load all the assets simultaneously,there are cpu heavy games like pubg or other online games which run smooth on the consoles,even horizon ,rdr 2 look and run better than this... the reason is that bethesda sucks on technical level,they can make good gameplay,have some good ideas but their games always were full of bugs,bad animations,bad optimization etc these guys cant even make a good sdr image,they cant fix black level when there is a mod from day one that fixes the issue bethesda suck on the technical field and thats a fact,period,there are no excuses for a studio of their scale.
@@BewareofGRThe CPU also has to calculate the physics and all the NPC's walking around and a bunch more. I don't disagree that starfield isn't very well optimized but the consoles aren't really that great either. You are talking about a 3700 that is gimped and down below a 3600... Both of those CPUs are already getting old and can struggle with more modern games... And they are better than what's in the console...
@BewareofGR I think everything is loaded at the same time though. I think they said that is part of the reason of so many loading screens is because of that. It's why you can leave like a sandwich on the floor and it'll stay there forever.
I've been using the Nvidia rtx hdr along with some Reshade settings, and to me it looks quite a bit better than the game's regular hdr. Just annoying to use on my setup, because I have to disable all my other screens for rtx to work.
To those that have never seen the pc mods that remove the awful "haze" effect.. You're missing out. The game looks tons better without the haze. Hopefully it'll be modded out when xbox gets mod capability.. Improves the picture massively
@@heysupguys30 I am yes... Brown, green haze effects etc... You can see it right at the very start in the mines.. With mods.. You can remove them so the blacks are.... Blacks. Personal preference.. But I prefer the cleaner look. "luts" I think they're labeled
When I was playing this game, I just used special K to inject better HDR. I have no confidence in Bethesda to actually make tangible improvements to the unmodded game given their track record.
Finally started playing this again. While not perfect, it’s much much better than launch. I just adjust the black level in the LG settings, it looks good enough
auto hdr outputs what you set in windows calibration app. Also sometimes windows doesn't care what you set in windows calibration app and it defaults to 1499nits even if it shows what you set in advance display settings . its a bug of windows to fix that just change refresh rate and revert it back to what it was.
To clarify for people: the shader injector was broken by the May 15th update, which Luma relies on. So Luma has also not been updated, so to use it you have to use an older version for the time being. This game looks so washed out without Luma, so I am still on the older version with no maps.
@@aaa4181It is upscaled to 4k and looks better in performance mode than it did pre update. Wayyy better with the lightning changes. You watched the digital foundry video and only heard the 900p unternal resolution. You all haters are dedicated lol
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So sad we dont get a good hdr expierience in a sci-fi game with all the stars, suns, lasers and so on. Not to mention the "pitch black" sea.
Bethesda really missed a chance to shine here.
The elevated black levels are really annoying. Overall, I think it's a very good update. The 40 FPS mode runs really well, with some dips in New Atlantis
Game looks great but is still ass and boring as hell. They need an entire story and gameplay overhaul
Lazy corporate f%*
They need to take the nasty 🤮 filter off
The raised blacks and slightly flat presentation is obviously an art choice. Especially because the title screen uses real blacks. Sdr is pretty much the same minus the highlights. Can't say I love it but it does seem to be implemented properly.
Bummer they didn't improve it. Sadly most devs don't make any effort to improve HDR after release. Keep up the good work, my dude. Hopefully you'll revisit Elden Ring once the DLC is out.
Maybe it will improve with the Shattered Space expansion. That will be a massive update after all.
@@XDLugia I don’t think BGS think the HDR is a problem. It’s their “artistic choice” for the washed out black levels. It looks terrible but it’s what they want. I play on PC and fix it with Reshade
@@teddyholiday8038 The lack of surface maps was also an artistic choice, but they changed that recently.
I'm not holding my breath, but I know there is a chance for improvement.
@@XDLugia that’s a huge difference
That’s apples to oranges. You’re WAY overreaching
@@XDLugia yeah that’s a wild false equivalence, you’re actually crazy if you think HDR tone mapping and surface maps are the same thing
Game still dips below 30fps in big cities even in performance mode
Yeah the CPU limit is real
Yea and yet ppl thought that Bethesda/Xbox was lying. This game is massive on a scale that most dont understand. Not easy to do.
@@RealTroyE23 this has nothing to do with the hardware,its massive but it does not load all the assets simultaneously,there are cpu heavy games like pubg or other online games which run smooth on the consoles,even horizon ,rdr 2 look and run better than this...
the reason is that bethesda sucks on technical level,they can make good gameplay,have some good ideas but their games always were full of bugs,bad animations,bad optimization etc
these guys cant even make a good sdr image,they cant fix black level when there is a mod from day one that fixes the issue
bethesda suck on the technical field and thats a fact,period,there are no excuses for a studio of their scale.
@@BewareofGRThe CPU also has to calculate the physics and all the NPC's walking around and a bunch more. I don't disagree that starfield isn't very well optimized but the consoles aren't really that great either. You are talking about a 3700 that is gimped and down below a 3600... Both of those CPUs are already getting old and can struggle with more modern games... And they are better than what's in the console...
@BewareofGR I think everything is loaded at the same time though. I think they said that is part of the reason of so many loading screens is because of that. It's why you can leave like a sandwich on the floor and it'll stay there forever.
@RealTroyE23 the game engine is outdated the scale has nothing to do with it. Each loaded area is incredibly small.
Highest room for improvement Game AWARD 🏆
I think this train has left the station a long time ago 🙂
could you compare rtx hdr and native hdr and tell us which one is better? thx for your amazing vids as always
it looks amazing with RTX HDR and i recommend installing the ( Neutral LUTs - No Color Filters ) Mod before using RTX HDR to make it look better
There is no native HDR. It's AutoHDR.
@@FilippoTarpini oh wtf is that true? i thought they implemented native hdr
@@KhasrouhRecords i was using neutral lut before i stopped playing and it was a gamechange on itself cant wait to test it with rtx hdr
I've been using the Nvidia rtx hdr along with some Reshade settings, and to me it looks quite a bit better than the game's regular hdr. Just annoying to use on my setup, because I have to disable all my other screens for rtx to work.
To those that have never seen the pc mods that remove the awful "haze" effect.. You're missing out. The game looks tons better without the haze. Hopefully it'll be modded out when xbox gets mod capability.. Improves the picture massively
Are u taking about color filters?
@@heysupguys30 I am yes... Brown, green haze effects etc... You can see it right at the very start in the mines.. With mods.. You can remove them so the blacks are.... Blacks.
Personal preference.. But I prefer the cleaner look.
"luts" I think they're labeled
When I was playing this game, I just used special K to inject better HDR. I have no confidence in Bethesda to actually make tangible improvements to the unmodded game given their track record.
How about settings for a SAMSUNGS QLED? You did a few when starfield first came out and have only done oled in the last few?
Finally started playing this again. While not perfect, it’s much much better than launch. I just adjust the black level in the LG settings, it looks good enough
They have improved it all around, the lighting and graphics are really good now!
Guess i just dont understand how to optimize hdr. It always looks dark and washed out.
I don’t have FTDA on my LG A1 oled. What do I do?
auto hdr outputs what you set in windows calibration app. Also sometimes windows doesn't care what you set in windows calibration app and it defaults to 1499nits even if it shows what you set in advance display settings . its a bug of windows to fix that just change refresh rate and revert it back to what it was.
What about rtx hdr?
Hdr or Dolby vision ?
Hgig or dtm mate?
Just use the Luma HDR mod if you are on PC
To clarify for people: the shader injector was broken by the May 15th update, which Luma relies on. So Luma has also not been updated, so to use it you have to use an older version for the time being. This game looks so washed out without Luma, so I am still on the older version with no maps.
@@leigel3 oh I see. Thanks for the info. They are working on an update though
So we still use FTDA at -22 ….looks A LOT Better !
I think -22 is a bit too much now. Try -4 up to-10
@@GamingTech-RUclips Thank! But i thought nothing has changed or was -22 before the Patches ?
I am not sure any more when I recommended -22. But it seems too much now. But give it a try. If you use dtm on ftda -22 can be fine
@@GamingTech-RUclips you said DTM - 30 and HGIG -22….i thought its a lot
The game looks great on xbox series x now!
It looks like a sexual beast
@@aaa4181It does, have you even tried it?
@@aaa4181it does not look like 900p at all. The up scaling is great. So zip it since you clearly haven’t played with the patch.
@@aaa4181It is upscaled to 4k and looks better in performance mode than it did pre update. Wayyy better with the lightning changes. You watched the digital foundry video and only heard the 900p unternal resolution. You all haters are dedicated lol
@@jeddediajohnson9179 sorry still looks like garbage you have no idea how upscaling works either…try again.
on pc i use RTX HDR now it looks amazing.
Lighting looks better
Just played it today, looks way better now and 40-60fps on visuals is a true game changer with vrr !
It looks actually not bad. Its not a visual masterpiece but still good