Hard pass - CVT only, which has been plagued with recalls and reliability issues. They should have gone with an Aisin gearbox instead of going whole-hog into CVTs.
I like that you guys are back to doing more "normal" car reviews. I assume it's because it's winter time, but it's really helpful and interesting for those of us currently car shopping.
We have a section of town where almost everyone drives Foresters. When you see a home without a Subaru in the driveway it literally stops people in their tracks to wonder if it's a visiting relative or someone lost.
It's like that I'm my area of town but with ram trucks. There are probably as many Rams as Chevy and ford trucks combined. Everytime a friend if a friend gets a ram then my friend gets a ram. It's a chain reaction.
@@normt5463 Subarus aren't cheap where I'm from. However I have a 2013 Impreza.... It's a dud. I love it, but it's a piece of crap. *Expensive piece of crap. I hope Subarus quality goes back to what it used to be. I want my wallet to like them.
Yuri : _If I'm on a phone call on apple carplay, it says I'm in a phone call and it blocks my speedo_ Big Analogue Speedometer : _What? Am I a joke to you?_
I absolutely love my 2019 Forester Sport. I've had it for a year now and it is a joy to commute in or take on an outdoors adventure. It's my fourth Subaru.
My fiance has a 2019 and we love it. It's like a spaceship inside. the tech is great, the pano sunroof is fantastic. its perfect for running errands on the weekends. I'm 6'4, 265 and fit wonderfully inside. The sound system is great. The storage capacity works well for camping as well hauling things from The Home Depot and Bad, Bath and Beyond. The visibility outside the windshield is way better than the outback.
I just wished it had more power. I'm not expecting turbo kind of power but considering it's competitors have similar engine displacement but make about 200hp (CX-5, Rav4)
I have a 2019 Sport. The visibility is unmatched. Great utility. If more hp, do it without extra expense & reduced mpg of a turbo. This isn't a sports car; it's a highly utilitarian, all purpose vehicle.
Having recently bought a 2020 Forester Touring and using it on a couple pot-hole filled dirt roads quite comfortably, I was excited in another review to see it tested on far worse terrain and do so well. But I am troubled why you and other car reviewers complain so much about the absence of a higher horsepower engine as if it is a deficiency. People did not buy it because hyper performance is not what they are looking for in a car like the Forester. What we have gotten is an incredibly smooth and capable performer on the road that can go off-road comfortably and safely. So review a vehicle for the audience it is designed for, rather than speed addicts who are doing the reviews.. Also, you malign the multi-screen display but as a user I find it terrific. I can see the radio info on top while viewing the map info on the big screen and vice-versa. Very nice. And I can see trip and other driving info on the driver view display at the same time. Yes one has to become comfortable with the controls but then it is easy to use.
They're comparing it to other SUVs I don't see the problem in asking for more power. You shouldn't just watch a review to confirm you made a good decision in purchasing your vehicle. Other people like me watch this so we know what to watch for when trying it out.
@@CyanChrys My point is that the power is more than adequate for the usage by people attracted to this type of vehicle. I have no problem passing cars going 55 on two lane roads nor driving uphill in the mountains where I live in New York. And I have a powerful turbo charged sedan that I can compare it to that has more giddy-up . Which is mostly wasted in my normal driving.
I'm attracted to it and I would like more power for off road and snow but the real issue is the cvt trans and boxer engine. Both are not very reliable and a belt driven trans while plowing through snow is not a great idea. I could deal with the boxer engine but not both.
@@OriginalFallofMind Having now used my Forester Touring in heavy snow in upstate NY this winter, I can assure you that the power to get through snow is just fine. As is the traction through that heavy snow. And by the way, I have had no problem accelerating to pass cars on two lane roads I travel on with the CVT transmission. Put simply, this car delivers what it promises.
Among the many things I like about the straight pipes is the fact that they thoroughly review lane centering features. Other reviewers never talk about that stuff and it’s a major selling point for me and the reason my next car will be the Genesis gv80 or Lincoln aviator
One of the main reasons I'm subbed to you guys is that the two of you often have very different opinions. Other reviewers/channels like to act like they're the end-all/be-all of the choice you should make, but StraightPipes understands how subjective these things go.
Also one of the cheapest to own in the class. They hold their value, relatively simple engine design so people can usually work on these themselves, parts are hella available. So many subarus use the same parts its great. Also for a non electric awd suv its one of the top in fuel efficiency. Lastly the insurance is super inexpensive.
As someone with the 2020 Forester sport, its easier on the eyes, surprisingly 'sporty'. But holy I've never driven a car with so few blind spots - it's like driving in a fish bowl. Also - there is so much room in both rear and front seats. 👌👌
@@cate2795 It’s awesome, only issue i’ve had was the windshield for whatever reason is prone to cracking. It still feels like new, and is great for long distance trips.
My coworker has this exact year and model and she got a killer deal through the Costco program. I enjoyed driving to our hikes in San Diego and it has such great sight lines for seeing all around the vehicle. It's super practical and roomy. Cheers from San Diego!
It's great that these guys nailed so much about the pros and cons of Subaru. I love Subarus. I have owned three. They are not beautiful. They are modest looking. They are functional. You don't buy a Subaru because you love the way it looks. You buy it, because it's simple, and to the point. You buy it because it works, and holds up. All of my Subaru maintenance has been standard stuff: oil changes, lightbulbs, breaks, and tires (after expected milage).
No mention of the beautifully engineered boxer engine! That's one thing that sets it apart. I just went from a 1999 Forester and it took some getting used to all the digital and luxury aspects but loving my 2020 Sport edition. The Subaru vibe is still there for me underneath all the gloss.
Great review! Some quick things: - That scanning when you turn on the car is actually doing something. Using that camera, it can save your pic to your profile and load it up when you get in the car, changing all your settings and seat settings. I have the limited which does not have this feature. - Back seats are very roomy, AND they also recline - the extra screen up top is actually very handy, especially with Android Auto. Map on the big screen, song info on the small screen. Or SAT radio on the main with next turn on the small screen - The optional sound system comes with a built-in sub that really cranks
Lee Ginsburg We own a sport model, and I love the third screen. Very useful for getting additional info while driving. I agree with a lot of the points you made. I kinda wished the Forester had a deeper and longer trunk.
I have a 2019 since June, AND I LUV IT ! Yeah CVT is a bummer in terms of performance but, in trafic, it is smooth. Winter driving in Montreal is such a charm and easy with this csuv.
@@lexithelexus7377 not with the new Rav4s my man. Horrible consumer reviews. Trans issues, fuel pump issues, battery issues... Forester is taking the cake the last 2 years. Not many issues reported.
@@NoName-gv6nm Really i was unsure, for the most part i felt like any T will out perform an S, but for certain model exceptions. For example my 18 RX 350 had 4 recalls done to it this year, so not really a fan of that
I looked up your video on the 2019 Santa Fe because of this video. Not knocking you or anything, but your video editing and presentation has come a long way since last year. Keep up the good work and great videos!
Two weeks ago, I traded my 19 Subaru Ascent and bought a Limited Forester. We like the Forester very much, it handles better than the Ascent and it's very comfortable. I miss the lane keeping that the Ascent has, this Forester just beeps when you go towards another lane and does not turn the steering like the Ascent. I like the steering response headlights a lot, really helps when turning in dark areas. We had an 09 Forester before the Ascent and this Forester is so much better than the 09.
@@vipul_singh Blame the consumer. No one likes how it sounds or feels, even if it's faster / more efficient / better. But yes, it's incredibly frustrating all around. So much effort to make a transmission designed to do ONE thing, and then we shoehorn it to do the thing it replaced, and not as well. Incredible.
I kind of like the fake shifts. Better than the droning. I would rather have a stepped automatic but if I had a CVT, better if it simulates shifts when you put your foot down. Not so important with a more powerful motor or a hybrid.
I drive the new 2020 forester premium it’s the best car I’ve ever had the technology helps me with my business ..I am safe with the car airbags etc I find a lot of their comments are negative ... I wonder what cars they drive This is a lovely car outside and in And I am proud to drive one Well done Subaru
I just bought a 2020 Forester w/ 3900 miles (loaner car) and am very happy with it. It's my second Forester. I have a 2014 which I gave to my son for his graduation. Besides brakes, tires, and 1 recall, I had 116k miles with NO problems, so I didn't even consider a different vehicle. I'm happy they fixed the cupholder problem!
Great video. I leased a Forester Sport in dark gray and am picking it up next week. It drives a lot better then people think. It holds the road extremely well. Yeah, it's not a WRX STI, it's not a rocketship, but it really doesn't have to be. It appeals to the casual adult driver. It gets you where you need to go without any trouble. Glad I picked it. Plus the sport version has that really nice gray interior with orange accents.
I'm never gonna understand why they use a CVT when they dont use it like a CVT on acceleration it could be kept at peak power for maximum acceleration and peak efficiency when just cruising but nooo... fake gears to go against all reasons to use a CVT
It made some sense when they first started using it, since anything was better than that archaic 4 and 5 speed auto they were using since the 90's. But at least those transmissions were bullet proof. The CVT is smoother and faster (those transmissions drove me mad how slow they were) than the transmission it replaced in Subaru's line up, however they are worse than everything else these days apart from *maybe* efficiency. So Subaru is in the same place they were in late 2000's with their old auto, if not worse.
these CVT architectures (same story with Nissan) that have been developed in-house are extremely easy to tune to different powertrains and curb weights, in some cases with software only. so they essentially spend zero money per car in R&D vs other manufacturers that might have a new traditional automatic every 1 or 2 generations or if it's a 3rd party transmission like ZF then they're spending a significant amount more per transmission to deliver a driving feel that frankly the majority of subaru drivers dgaf about. also, since subarus are full time awd only CVTs can provide the max amount of mpg so subarus can compete with other fwd cars in mpg. the simulated stepping doesn't really cost that much mpg. also, as a side note, manufacturers use calculations to develop EPA estimates, the EPA can audit these claims, but the MPG is less of a real world testing regimen and more so just a calculation of the powertrain characteristics, software, and vehicle weight. consequently, this makes it even easier for CVTs to claim better on paper MPG than normal automatics.
Love my forester. Drives through any winter weather and gets me up and down a mountain. The only other vehicle that competes with it where i live is JLR Discovery or a Rangie
I purchased a 2020 Forester Limited. So far absolutely love it! I do have two minor complaints. 1. The auto start/stop. Not something you can really avoid these days so ill accept it. 2. A bug with apple car play and USB media. Cannot access USB media when Iphone is connected. Beyond those minor complaint the vehicle is a pleasure to drive. The adaptive cruise control and lane keep is impressive and works well. Appointments are comfortable and ride is surprisingly supple. Have yet to "floor" it, but have merged on many high ways and never been wanting for power/acceleration. All in all a tight package for the price.
I don’t know if this is something that would fit in your car review’s format, but for family centric vehicles (like this Forester) I would mentioned crash ratings
I appreciate when it’s more “normal” cars that my friends and family drive; aka. if I’m going to buy a car I can afford this year. Of course the fancy cars are better. But I enjoy the cars and reviews for the muggles.
I do love the visibility that the Forester has. My sister has one and it's like being in a fishbowl. I drive the Outback which I like more because it's a wagon but the Forester I think is actually easier to see out of which is nice for everyone's safety
Does it have a manual? A turbo? A hood scoop? No? Then it most certainly is not better than I thought. From the company that advertised against being beige, this is very very beige.
I literally just got a 2018 Subaru Outback Touring(tip trim in America) and it has the brown leather. Love it so much! It’s way slower than my old WRX but the comfort makes up for it for sure. It’s my commute killer!
I have a 2019 Forester, and I think your review is confusing. This is not a Porsche Taycan, nor a McLaren. It is a car designed for families. Who cares about acceleration ? I chose the car after extensive research, and I am delighted with it. It is awesome in the winter ; is comfortable and easy to drive. The available room in the car and in the trunk is fantastic, and the fuel consumption is ok, as are the looks. Best resale value on the market ! Darn right it is better than you think !
Y’all underplayed this car. Exceptional value for money ESPECIALLY in snow. I’ve been stuck a total of zero times. Zero. This is in Northern New Brunswick ... you don’t get much snowier. Hyundai?? 🤮
True! Just review the car accordimg to his real purpose! Look at this review far more fair! The Forester is one if the last true Suv! driving.ca/subaru/forester/reviews/road-test/5-things-i-learned-driving-the-2020-subaru-forester-through-a-farmers-back-40
I bought a 2020 Touring (top trim in the US) and I absolutely love this thing. Only two things really drive me nuts, the fact that you can't permanently disable engine auto start/stop and that you can't permanently enable auto brake hold. The former I understand due to emissions certification, the latter I can't explain. Otherwise the vehicle is fantastic. While the exterior looks are dull (as all Subarus), the interior in this generation has really taken a step forward and IMHO at the very least matched if not leaped over most of the competition. The safety tech is class leading now doubt, eyesight is fantastic. Lane centering works wonders on the highway unlike what Yuri experienced. The fact that it will auto stop you both forward and in reverse if it seems obstacles, is next level. The automatic seat/mirror adjustment based on facial recognition is next level, I don't know how we lived without. I share the car with my wife and it makes everything seamless. The heated steering wheel is great and heated rear seats is a nice extra touch. The only performance I care about in this car is the inclement weather performance, which goes without saying is obviously great. As far as power/CVT, it's irrelevant to me as it's just a family hauler for us.
Terry Keith well you see I am still young to drive but I love cars especially suvs.. I would love to get one in the future but have to wait 6 years to drive
@@Sebastian-wg1ru Haha, keep going and keep your dreams in mind. You'll have a Forester if that's what you really want. Check back in at the six year mark, and let us know if it's still what you want. Stay healthy, man.
You should have told the public what model you were testing so there is no confusion optional equipment. You should have also tested it night to see how hard it is to find the overhead lights. I have a 2019 but should be about the same and you have to drive it for a while to notice all the design flaws
I love my 2017 Forester XT with its turbo. And though there are features in the 2020 Forester I would like to have (Android Auto, faster operating tailgate, etc) I wouldn't trade my turbo's power for them.
What is sad is that Subaru has the 2.4 turbo regular gas engine from the Ascent, which is optional on the slow selling Legacy and Outback and Subaru doesn't even offer it on the Forester. If they did I could put the Forester back on our list.
adequate power, comfortable, lots of room for a family, secure, easy to work on for the shade tree mechanic. we have the '16 outback with the ONE critical feature that makes the drive tolerable...a 3rd F'in pedal. Its a real shame that at this point, there are no new manual shift family type vehicles in the market place- the type of family that has 2 adult sized teenagers. Thanks for the review boys!
Greetings from Australia guys. Love your reviews. The looks on your faces when you planted the foot at the start of the video are priceless. I had exactly the same reaction when I test drove the Forester and ended up getting our equivalent to your CX5 Signature turbo.
@@e70_x5_guy4 But the new Escape is the first of the new manufacturing line. Hasn't there been some quality issues there? Either way personally I'm a forester/Rav4 supporter
Jacob, your face on acceleration was priceless! 2 things I will never buy a car with: a CVT, and auto-shut off. Ugh. The auto-shut off should default to being off, and you can choose to enable it. Not the other way around.
I know it is because we bought a Sport at the end of last year, and it’s great. It’s my wife’s car, and she’s in love LOL! 30mpg, all wheel drive, tons of space, rugged enough, panoramic moonroof...not too shabby. Oh yeah, and the easiest oil change I’ve ever done :)
I was worried when I saw IG preview as I love my 17 Forester Limited and was worried they'd trash it. As I always say, the CVT would never be my choice in a sports car or performance vehicle, but it suits this suv perfectly. I've never owned a car that was so amazingly efficient at holding speed in cruise over hilly back roads or highways as it doesn't have to mess around with Dow shifting a whole gear, it can do so much more with engine braking on downhills meaning less riding the brakes to maintain speed or suddenly going 15kmh faster than cruise is set just because you're on a hill. With snows on it's been unstoppable in winter and even on stock 18" tires I've trundled it down forest path and fire routes with nothing but a smile at the fun I'd had.
Sadly Subaru will never put the Turbo back in, they just prefer higher mileage and slowness with no options to get their Turbo engine. With a Turbo option, we would have considered the Forester for our highway work commutes and trips through the mountain passes.
@david chappel So true, Subaru only wants mpg's nowadays, so forget about anymore hp. For them the base engine is plenty for enough people, so no need for an optional engine for those of us that require more hp.
Seeing these all over the road now makes me appreciate my SG XT more. It’s nowhere near as luxurious, but it’s a fun, agile, fast scrappy car which I love.
Honestly you guys were a lot nicer about the Forester than I expected. I bought a 2020 Forester Limited last October over a CX-5 Turbo - I know you guys don't talk about MPGs, but that and the head unit made me lean towards the Forester. The CX-5 reverse and 360 cam was awful. And I drive like a grandma anyway so the Forester suits me just fine.
I hate how subaru was very good from the 1990s to 2010 and now its not that good , the interior is good looking but the exterior look of the legacy , forester is very normal/bland :( I have a 2006 legacy and compared it to the 2019 one and they didn't realy improve much
I bought one last December and I love everything about it... Excellent visibility, nice long and wide panoramic sunroof, eyesight works marvelously well (excpt, it makes my heart beat faster when approaching stopped vehicle, like on red light) and I use it a lot. Love the crystal pearl color and best of all, I can start it remotely from cellphone app...no regrets at all☺️👍👍👍
About paddle shifters and the reasoning on a slower car like this...manual mode comes in handy in snow, going downhill. Paddles make that easier and keep both hands on the wheel. It’s not a matter of driving sporty, but a bit safer. As a skier, I drive in the snow a lot and Subies are excellent cars for that mission.
Yuri: "a little too many buttons to get to Apple Carplay" Mate, chill out. It's literally 2 clicks😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 even Jacob was not approving of your thought ahahaha
@@TheStraightPipes yeah, but almost all cars still don't have that feature. I do think they need to change the media and radio buttons to apple Carplay/ Android auto though!
I've drive the new generation Foresters a few times when they give a loner to drive. I can tell you it needs a bigger rear stabilizer bar. I replaced the stock rear stabilizer bar on my 2015 Forester with the 20mm one and it makes a big difference in tightening up the rear for turn-in and out.
What do you think of the updated Forester?
Seems like its stuck in the early 2000s
It's a shit car. Subaru is trash. Their idea of sporty is ditching the XT and putting red stripes all over the car.
@@connorharkins9779 I wish it was an early 2000's forester, it would be smaller, lighter, have a manual and a turbo.
Hard pass - CVT only, which has been plagued with recalls and reliability issues. They should have gone with an Aisin gearbox instead of going whole-hog into CVTs.
Boring would be the word
Quote of the video: “Man that simulated quick.”
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I like that you guys are back to doing more "normal" car reviews. I assume it's because it's winter time, but it's really helpful and interesting for those of us currently car shopping.
We have to take advantage of summer but we definitely still do some "normal" cars in the summer as well
@@TheStraightPipes You and throttle house doing convertibles in the winter is the greatest.
Chris Hilliard great comment love these guys but we need to see more vehicles normal people with normal bank accounts can afford!!
Jeff Smith well I am
@@jaydoesstuff9807 but yet you had the time to click the link and then proceed to comment. LOL
Straight Pipes has the best b-roll footage in he industry
Word on the street is that DJ Khaled calls our footage A-Roll
Was just thinking that during this video
Idk Mr.JWW has some pretty sick B-roll also
Yes they are great, but savageese still tops them, I very much enjoy both creators though!
I like Savagegeese's B-Roll too
We have a section of town where almost everyone drives Foresters. When you see a home without a Subaru in the driveway it literally stops people in their tracks to wonder if it's a visiting relative or someone lost.
Bunch of lemmings!
@@normt5463 or it means that the car is suitable for what people want
@@owenrodgers8020 they are cheap and utilitarian!
It's like that I'm my area of town but with ram trucks. There are probably as many Rams as Chevy and ford trucks combined. Everytime a friend if a friend gets a ram then my friend gets a ram. It's a chain reaction.
@@normt5463 Subarus aren't cheap where I'm from. However I have a 2013 Impreza.... It's a dud. I love it, but it's a piece of crap. *Expensive piece of crap. I hope Subarus quality goes back to what it used to be. I want my wallet to like them.
Yuri : _If I'm on a phone call on apple carplay, it says I'm in a phone call and it blocks my speedo_
Big Analogue Speedometer : _What? Am I a joke to you?_
I absolutely love my 2019 Forester Sport. I've had it for a year now and it is a joy to commute in or take on an outdoors adventure. It's my fourth Subaru.
The music in the beginning was so fitting 😂 “ehhh 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️”
Garrett DeRosa lol
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My fiance has a 2019 and we love it. It's like a spaceship inside. the tech is great, the pano sunroof is fantastic. its perfect for running errands on the weekends. I'm 6'4, 265 and fit wonderfully inside. The sound system is great. The storage capacity works well for camping as well hauling things from The Home Depot and Bad, Bath and Beyond. The visibility outside the windshield is way better than the outback.
And even though it's CVT i feel like subaru did it right unlike dear I saw the name? NISSAN.
I just wished it had more power. I'm not expecting turbo kind of power but considering it's competitors have similar engine displacement but make about 200hp (CX-5, Rav4)
thats great to hear !
I have a 2019 Sport. The visibility is unmatched. Great utility. If more hp, do it without extra expense & reduced mpg of a turbo. This isn't a sports car; it's a highly utilitarian, all purpose vehicle.
^Millenial for sure.
Having recently bought a 2020 Forester Touring and using it on a couple pot-hole filled dirt roads quite comfortably, I was excited in another review to see it tested on far worse terrain and do so well. But I am troubled why you and other car reviewers complain so much about the absence of a higher horsepower engine as if it is a deficiency. People did not buy it because hyper performance is not what they are looking for in a car like the Forester. What we have gotten is an incredibly smooth and capable performer on the road that can go off-road comfortably and safely. So review a vehicle for the audience it is designed for, rather than speed addicts who are doing the reviews..
Also, you malign the multi-screen display but as a user I find it terrific. I can see the radio info on top while viewing the map info on the big screen and vice-versa. Very nice. And I can see trip and other driving info on the driver view display at the same time. Yes one has to become comfortable with the controls but then it is easy to use.
They're comparing it to other SUVs I don't see the problem in asking for more power. You shouldn't just watch a review to confirm you made a good decision in purchasing your vehicle. Other people like me watch this so we know what to watch for when trying it out.
@@CyanChrys My point is that the power is more than adequate for the usage by people attracted to this type of vehicle. I have no problem passing cars going 55 on two lane roads nor driving uphill in the mountains where I live in New York. And I have a powerful turbo charged sedan that I can compare it to that has more giddy-up . Which is mostly wasted in my normal driving.
@@philipzwick It may be more than adequate for You. You're not speaking for every potential purchasers.
I'm attracted to it and I would like more power for off road and snow but the real issue is the cvt trans and boxer engine. Both are not very reliable and a belt driven trans while plowing through snow is not a great idea. I could deal with the boxer engine but not both.
@@OriginalFallofMind Having now used my Forester Touring in heavy snow in upstate NY this winter, I can assure you that the power to get through snow is just fine. As is the traction through that heavy snow. And by the way, I have had no problem accelerating to pass cars on two lane roads I travel on with the CVT transmission. Put simply, this car delivers what it promises.
Among the many things I like about the straight pipes is the fact that they thoroughly review lane centering features. Other reviewers never talk about that stuff and it’s a major selling point for me and the reason my next car will be the Genesis gv80 or Lincoln aviator
Love my Forester - very roomy, easy to drive, big windows, smooth tech, awesome for traveling...& looks great!
100% 🥰
Big glass is what no one else has. Big selling point for us.
I sell Subarus for a living, and the Forester is one of our top sellers right now! Very solid vehicle that's very dependable and holds its value!
"Dependable"... LOL. Not according to owners. Read some owner reviews, Bud.
Typical salesman: can't call a spade a spade.
This car has space and comfort and really is for families who road trip. If you want speed and something that looks crazy go elsewhere. Simple :)
It is not made just for families it is also the top rated vehicle for short people that need high visibility
One of the main reasons I'm subbed to you guys is that the two of you often have very different opinions. Other reviewers/channels like to act like they're the end-all/be-all of the choice you should make, but StraightPipes understands how subjective these things go.
Visibility and Subaru's AWD are the highlights of this SUV when compared to others.
Also one of the cheapest to own in the class. They hold their value, relatively simple engine design so people can usually work on these themselves, parts are hella available. So many subarus use the same parts its great. Also for a non electric awd suv its one of the top in fuel efficiency. Lastly the insurance is super inexpensive.
As someone with the 2020 Forester sport, its easier on the eyes, surprisingly 'sporty'. But holy I've never driven a car with so few blind spots - it's like driving in a fish bowl. Also - there is so much room in both rear and front seats. 👌👌
How are you still liking your Forester sport?
@@cate2795 It’s awesome, only issue i’ve had was the windshield for whatever reason is prone to cracking. It still feels like new, and is great for long distance trips.
Thank you for replying!! So great to hear you still love it @@sodapopshoppe
My coworker has this exact year and model and she got a killer deal through the Costco program. I enjoyed driving to our hikes in San Diego and it has such great sight lines for seeing all around the vehicle. It's super practical and roomy. Cheers from San Diego!
Your review led me to buy a Forester Limited 2 weeks ago. Oh, the 0% interest also helped. Thanks!
That was one of the most soothing intro ever.
It's great that these guys nailed so much about the pros and cons of Subaru.
I love Subarus. I have owned three. They are not beautiful. They are modest looking. They are functional. You don't buy a Subaru because you love the way it looks. You buy it, because it's simple, and to the point. You buy it because it works, and holds up. All of my Subaru maintenance has been standard stuff: oil changes, lightbulbs, breaks, and tires (after expected milage).
The styling already looks 10 years old
The 2009 Forester looks better than this one, imo.
Interior is nice tho
I guess that's what lesbians like...
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I like the 03-05 more lol
I think it gives Subaru there own look honestly
No mention of the beautifully engineered boxer engine! That's one thing that sets it apart. I just went from a 1999 Forester and it took some getting used to all the digital and luxury aspects but loving my 2020 Sport edition. The Subaru vibe is still there for me underneath all the gloss.
Congratulations on your new vehicle. How you like it I have a 2015
Great review! Some quick things:
- That scanning when you turn on the car is actually doing something. Using that camera, it can save your pic to your profile and load it up when you get in the car, changing all your settings and seat settings. I have the limited which does not have this feature.
- Back seats are very roomy, AND they also recline
- the extra screen up top is actually very handy, especially with Android Auto. Map on the big screen, song info on the small screen. Or SAT radio on the main with next turn on the small screen
- The optional sound system comes with a built-in sub that really cranks
Lee Ginsburg We own a sport model, and I love the third screen. Very useful for getting additional info while driving.
I agree with a lot of the points you made. I kinda wished the Forester had a deeper and longer trunk.
I have a 2019 since June, AND I LUV IT ! Yeah CVT is a bummer in terms of performance but, in trafic, it is smooth. Winter driving in Montreal is such a charm and easy with this csuv.
tahts great ! i wanted one of them but dident like its relaibility rating !
@@lexithelexus7377 you didn't like being at number 1 in reliability and security?
@@noventay4 Toyota are number 1 hahahah
@@lexithelexus7377 not with the new Rav4s my man. Horrible consumer reviews. Trans issues, fuel pump issues, battery issues... Forester is taking the cake the last 2 years. Not many issues reported.
@@NoName-gv6nm Really i was unsure, for the most part i felt like any T will out perform an S, but for certain model exceptions. For example my 18 RX 350 had 4 recalls done to it this year, so not really a fan of that
I looked up your video on the 2019 Santa Fe because of this video. Not knocking you or anything, but your video editing and presentation has come a long way since last year. Keep up the good work and great videos!
Two weeks ago, I traded my 19 Subaru Ascent and bought a Limited Forester. We like the Forester very much, it handles better than the Ascent and it's very comfortable. I miss the lane keeping that the Ascent has, this Forester just beeps when you go towards another lane and does not turn the steering like the Ascent. I like the steering response headlights a lot, really helps when turning in dark areas. We had an 09 Forester before the Ascent and this Forester is so much better than the 09.
Hey Yuri, you wanna comb your hair?
Yuri: nah
Simulated gears with a CVT, all the downside of a CVT with none of the benefit!
@@vipul_singh Blame the consumer. No one likes how it sounds or feels, even if it's faster / more efficient / better. But yes, it's incredibly frustrating all around. So much effort to make a transmission designed to do ONE thing, and then we shoehorn it to do the thing it replaced, and not as well. Incredible.
yeah i wish an automatic !
I kind of like the fake shifts. Better than the droning. I would rather have a stepped automatic but if I had a CVT, better if it simulates shifts when you put your foot down. Not so important with a more powerful motor or a hybrid.
idiot
@Dika Vinci yea i dont get it ppl dont wanna make up their minds...
I drive the new 2020 forester premium it’s the best car I’ve ever had the technology helps me with my business ..I am safe with the car airbags etc
I find a lot of their comments are negative ... I wonder what cars they drive
This is a lovely car outside and in
And I am proud to drive one
Well done Subaru
When I started watching this channel I thought: man, this dude is very serious about his rewind satellite radio.
I just bought a 2020 Forester w/ 3900 miles (loaner car) and am very happy with it. It's my second Forester. I have a 2014 which I gave to my son for his graduation. Besides brakes, tires, and 1 recall, I had 116k miles with NO problems, so I didn't even consider a different vehicle. I'm happy they fixed the cupholder problem!
The Forester has greatly improved over the years, specifically the interior. I just wish they didn’t have the CVT.
I would go buy one if it didnt have a CVT.
@Tarun tej A continuously variable transmission (CVT)??
Tarun tej Continuously Vulnerable Transmission. Lol
Great video. I leased a Forester Sport in dark gray and am picking it up next week. It drives a lot better then people think. It holds the road extremely well. Yeah, it's not a WRX STI, it's not a rocketship, but it really doesn't have to be. It appeals to the casual adult driver. It gets you where you need to go without any trouble. Glad I picked it. Plus the sport version has that really nice gray interior with orange accents.
I'm never gonna understand why they use a CVT when they dont use it like a CVT
on acceleration it could be kept at peak power for maximum acceleration and peak efficiency when just cruising
but nooo... fake gears to go against all reasons to use a CVT
It made some sense when they first started using it, since anything was better than that archaic 4 and 5 speed auto they were using since the 90's. But at least those transmissions were bullet proof. The CVT is smoother and faster (those transmissions drove me mad how slow they were) than the transmission it replaced in Subaru's line up, however they are worse than everything else these days apart from *maybe* efficiency. So Subaru is in the same place they were in late 2000's with their old auto, if not worse.
People didnt like how it sounded. They wanted it to fake shift
William Brewer ok cool, so why are they doing it now in 2020 instead of installing a normal auto
these CVT architectures (same story with Nissan) that have been developed in-house are extremely easy to tune to different powertrains and curb weights, in some cases with software only. so they essentially spend zero money per car in R&D vs other manufacturers that might have a new traditional automatic every 1 or 2 generations or if it's a 3rd party transmission like ZF then they're spending a significant amount more per transmission to deliver a driving feel that frankly the majority of subaru drivers dgaf about. also, since subarus are full time awd only CVTs can provide the max amount of mpg so subarus can compete with other fwd cars in mpg. the simulated stepping doesn't really cost that much mpg. also, as a side note, manufacturers use calculations to develop EPA estimates, the EPA can audit these claims, but the MPG is less of a real world testing regimen and more so just a calculation of the powertrain characteristics, software, and vehicle weight. consequently, this makes it even easier for CVTs to claim better on paper MPG than normal automatics.
@@ValentineC137 production cost? Fuel range?
That intro music was eerily one of the most Subaru-esque themes I’ve heard of. They should have it be the official Forester song.
Then it was playing I thought to myself, this is what I expect to be playing when I hop into a Forester.
Does anyone know who's the author by any chance?
Love my forester. Drives through any winter weather and gets me up and down a mountain. The only other vehicle that competes with it where i live is JLR Discovery or a Rangie
I liked the intro. I always wanted to see your take on the forester. Now I can't wait to see u review the Kia Seltos.
The 2.5 and 6-speed changed the character significantly. RIP manual trans.
Thank you for mentioning and showing the lane assist feature. Not enough reviewers do that, they are not all equal. Great video!
We always do that
The Forester Sport version is definitely easier on the eyes
BaruchPB it’s dope with that orange stripe.
it's a lame trim package
@@dancashmer8944 say that to the original STI trim noob🖕
@@Turbo.RF4 💪
Only downside cannot get leather or dual climate control
I purchased a 2020 Forester Limited. So far absolutely love it! I do have two minor complaints. 1. The auto start/stop. Not something you can really avoid these days so ill accept it. 2. A bug with apple car play and USB media. Cannot access USB media when Iphone is connected. Beyond those minor complaint the vehicle is a pleasure to drive. The adaptive cruise control and lane keep is impressive and works well. Appointments are comfortable and ride is surprisingly supple. Have yet to "floor" it, but have merged on many high ways and never been wanting for power/acceleration. All in all a tight package for the price.
I don’t know if this is something that would fit in your car review’s format, but for family centric vehicles (like this Forester) I would mentioned crash ratings
oK, dad
It is medium-safe to me, not special, not bad. The safest car in that (price)class is the 2019 Honda CR-V.
Forester have scored very high at crash test, very safe car.
It was great meeting you both at the Canadian Int'l Auto Show last Saturday!
Thanks for coming out!
2:35 That would have been a great time to put a watch sponsorship clip in there.
The Forester not anyone's dream car but totally loved both your faces when flooring it.
6:55 killed me😂 if 2 steps for apple car play are too much, it might be the reason why Yuri's hair are a bit messy🤔😂
Yuri killing it with the editing on that Subaru-like intro music.
I appreciate when it’s more “normal” cars that my friends and family drive; aka. if I’m going to buy a car I can afford this year. Of course the fancy cars are better. But I enjoy the cars and reviews for the muggles.
Makes the content so much better that you guys have different opinions on a lot of things.
I do love the visibility that the Forester has. My sister has one and it's like being in a fishbowl. I drive the Outback which I like more because it's a wagon but the Forester I think is actually easier to see out of which is nice for everyone's safety
Idk why you guys are not at 1M! You guys are amazing with the videos !!
Does it have a manual? A turbo? A hood scoop? No? Then it most certainly is not better than I thought. From the company that advertised against being beige, this is very very beige.
The reason they got rid of the turbo was no one was buying them, or not enough people were buying them.
@@norme1850 But everything is turbo nowadays...na engines are actually the minority now.
Please never stop shooting in Milton, I love being able to watch your videos and know exactly where you are! I love just off of Bronte street LOL
I literally just got a 2018 Subaru Outback Touring(tip trim in America) and it has the brown leather. Love it so much! It’s way slower than my old WRX but the comfort makes up for it for sure. It’s my commute killer!
I'm thinking of getting a 2017 XT touring.
I have a 2019 Forester, and I think your review is confusing. This is not a Porsche Taycan, nor a McLaren. It is a car designed for families. Who cares about acceleration ? I chose the car after extensive research, and I am delighted with it. It is awesome in the winter ; is comfortable and easy to drive. The available room in the car and in the trunk is fantastic, and the fuel consumption is ok, as are the looks. Best resale value on the market ! Darn right it is better than you think !
Y’all underplayed this car. Exceptional value for money ESPECIALLY in snow. I’ve been stuck a total of zero times. Zero. This is in Northern New Brunswick ... you don’t get much snowier.
Hyundai?? 🤮
True! Just review the car accordimg to his real purpose! Look at this review far more fair! The Forester is one if the last true Suv! driving.ca/subaru/forester/reviews/road-test/5-things-i-learned-driving-the-2020-subaru-forester-through-a-farmers-back-40
I bought a 2020 Touring (top trim in the US) and I absolutely love this thing. Only two things really drive me nuts, the fact that you can't permanently disable engine auto start/stop and that you can't permanently enable auto brake hold. The former I understand due to emissions certification, the latter I can't explain. Otherwise the vehicle is fantastic. While the exterior looks are dull (as all Subarus), the interior in this generation has really taken a step forward and IMHO at the very least matched if not leaped over most of the competition. The safety tech is class leading now doubt, eyesight is fantastic. Lane centering works wonders on the highway unlike what Yuri experienced. The fact that it will auto stop you both forward and in reverse if it seems obstacles, is next level. The automatic seat/mirror adjustment based on facial recognition is next level, I don't know how we lived without. I share the car with my wife and it makes everything seamless. The heated steering wheel is great and heated rear seats is a nice extra touch. The only performance I care about in this car is the inclement weather performance, which goes without saying is obviously great. As far as power/CVT, it's irrelevant to me as it's just a family hauler for us.
Lox Lover I agree! I wished the auto start stop was a bit more refined.
What is auto brake hold?
The forester is a amazing, practical vehicle.. Wish I can get one
Why cant you get one Sebastian?
Terry Keith well you see I am still young to drive but I love cars especially suvs.. I would love to get one in the future but have to wait 6 years to drive
@@Sebastian-wg1ru Haha, keep going and keep your dreams in mind. You'll have a Forester if that's what you really want. Check back in at the six year mark, and let us know if it's still what you want. Stay healthy, man.
Thank you
The Zen Show lucky!
You should have told the public what model you were testing so there is no confusion optional equipment. You should have also tested it night to see how hard it is to find the overhead lights. I have a 2019 but should be about the same and you have to drive it for a while to notice all the design flaws
We told the public exactly what model it was
It's just a shorter, taller Outback. It's fine, nothing wrong. It's the car of "I'm just browsing".
yeah i’d take an outback over this any day
I bought a 2020 Sport, and I am loving it!
I brought a limited ，and I am loving it too
I love my 2017 Forester XT with its turbo. And though there are features in the 2020 Forester I would like to have (Android Auto, faster operating tailgate, etc) I wouldn't trade my turbo's power for them.
one of the best reviews I've seen, informative & enjoyable! thanks!
You guys are so fun to watch, even though this Forester is the Crap!!!!
Bring back the Turbo!!!
They ruined their line up by taking out the xt w/ the hood scoop
I am looking for a low mileage Forester XT. Hopefully they bring it back after it breaks.
What is sad is that Subaru has the 2.4 turbo regular gas engine from the Ascent, which is optional on the slow selling Legacy and Outback and Subaru doesn't even offer it on the Forester. If they did I could put the Forester back on our list.
adequate power, comfortable, lots of room for a family, secure, easy to work on for the shade tree mechanic. we have the '16 outback with the ONE critical feature that makes the drive tolerable...a 3rd F'in pedal. Its a real shame that at this point, there are no new manual shift family type vehicles in the market place- the type of family that has 2 adult sized teenagers. Thanks for the review boys!
*man that simulated quick* that's something u don't hear everyday
also
is that a bold spot on yuri or is it jus messy hair 5:30
I saw it earlier in the video as well. I'm all for the messy hair look but that spot is bugging me. LOL
My wig slipped out of place
Bald spot
Greetings from Australia guys. Love your reviews.
The looks on your faces when you planted the foot at the start of the video are priceless. I had exactly the same reaction when I test drove the Forester and ended up getting our equivalent to your CX5 Signature turbo.
Cheers mate
HOW?! How do you know I am looking for a 2020 Forester lol
😉
MarvelousWhale Vlogs I would get the new Ford Escape or the Toyota RAV4.
@@e70_x5_guy4 But the new Escape is the first of the new manufacturing line. Hasn't there been some quality issues there?
Either way personally I'm a forester/Rav4 supporter
@@e70_x5_guy4 I am a Subaru fanboy Only ever had Subaru cant beat their AWD
@@MarvelousWhales get an outback XT youll thank me later
Jacob, your face on acceleration was priceless!
2 things I will never buy a car with: a CVT, and auto-shut off. Ugh. The auto-shut off should default to being off, and you can choose to enable it. Not the other way around.
I've been driving for over 20 years and I never once moved the sun visor to the side, let alone tried to extend it. Am I alone here?
I drive north on the NY Thruway a lot in the late afternoon and that visor definitely goes to the side. The sun glare can be brutal.
You guys are the only car channel that I watch any video
I know it is because we bought a Sport at the end of last year, and it’s great. It’s my wife’s car, and she’s in love LOL! 30mpg, all wheel drive, tons of space, rugged enough, panoramic moonroof...not too shabby. Oh yeah, and the easiest oil change I’ve ever done :)
Using any oil? Hope not.
I was worried when I saw IG preview as I love my 17 Forester Limited and was worried they'd trash it. As I always say, the CVT would never be my choice in a sports car or performance vehicle, but it suits this suv perfectly. I've never owned a car that was so amazingly efficient at holding speed in cruise over hilly back roads or highways as it doesn't have to mess around with Dow shifting a whole gear, it can do so much more with engine braking on downhills meaning less riding the brakes to maintain speed or suddenly going 15kmh faster than cruise is set just because you're on a hill. With snows on it's been unstoppable in winter and even on stock 18" tires I've trundled it down forest path and fire routes with nothing but a smile at the fun I'd had.
Subaru has got to bump up the hp on the Forester, bring back the STi.
Sadly Subaru will never put the Turbo back in, they just prefer higher mileage and slowness with no options to get their Turbo engine. With a Turbo option, we would have considered the Forester for our highway work commutes and trips through the mountain passes.
@david chappel So true, Subaru only wants mpg's nowadays, so forget about anymore hp. For them the base engine is plenty for enough people, so no need for an optional engine for those of us that require more hp.
for you? OK, Boomer
Still have the 2014 Forester XT, enough hp and the elbow rest is adjustable!
Have you ever driven one?
I love love love that you guys do conversion on mpgs and pricing..please don't change that👍👍👍👌👌
Yuri 40 seconds in... 🤷♂️ "ehh"
My_Supercar_Life that's a good description for the whole car.
Sir, I borrowed you’re comment. Excuse me for that please.
I can't unsee the contrast between the light headliner and the black dash
Wife and I just got the blacked out Sport and absolutely love it! That's coming from a large cattle rancher/blacksmith who drives a big Ford hahaha
love our Sport also.
Why I drove my grandfather’s foresters (2002 & 2019) I found that the newer one had way too light steering and the 02 one was better suited for me
the lack of excitement in the whole subaru lineup is legendary.
Brandon Hall hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. EVERYTHING except the BRZ and WRX
Jeremy Scott lol I’ll give those a pass
Brandon Hall skip a wrx STI your fucking insane
I have a 2018 Forester XT that goes like Hell!
your wife says the same about you....
Seeing these all over the road now makes me appreciate my SG XT more. It’s nowhere near as luxurious, but it’s a fun, agile, fast scrappy car which I love.
I have a 2018 Forester XT. The last great Forester!
Honestly you guys were a lot nicer about the Forester than I expected.
I bought a 2020 Forester Limited last October over a CX-5 Turbo - I know you guys don't talk about MPGs, but that and the head unit made me lean towards the Forester. The CX-5 reverse and 360 cam was awful. And I drive like a grandma anyway so the Forester suits me just fine.
Subaru is my favorite auto manufacture out there, but their prices are starting to skyrocket beyond what they look to be worth.
The base impreza isnt too expensive. Standard cars are basically $25,000 to $30,000 for anything base model nowadays
This channel deserves millions of subs 😭
Wtf is wrong wirh yuris hair lately.. It looks like he gets up from bed and starts recording lmao
And you care why?
@@Hallowsaw becoz yuri bae
Also, no mention of the huge sun roof. I love it!
The interior is surprisingly decent, but I think Jakub's facial expression @ 0:34 pretty much captures my thought on this vehicle.
Love my 2019 Forester Sport. Best compact SUV at this price point in my opinion
Barely has more HP and TQ than my base model 2002 Forester and probably weighs twice as much.
3100 vs 3500
Makes me so happy to have found a Canadian car review channel!
We love being Canadian
Check out Christopher Car Review
I hate how subaru was very good from the 1990s to 2010 and now its not that good , the interior is good looking but the exterior look of the legacy , forester is very normal/bland :(
I have a 2006 legacy and compared it to the 2019 one and they didn't realy improve much
How did you guys finally fix the random mic unplugging issue you guys used to have? It’s been perfect since.
Spent several more thousands of dollars
I bought one last December and I love everything about it... Excellent visibility, nice long and wide panoramic sunroof, eyesight works marvelously well (excpt, it makes my heart beat faster when approaching stopped vehicle, like on red light) and I use it a lot. Love the crystal pearl color and best of all, I can start it remotely from cellphone app...no regrets at all☺️👍👍👍
I'm considering buying one and I know people don't like the design much but I really like it.
I love my Mazda CX-5!❤️
About paddle shifters and the reasoning on a slower car like this...manual mode comes in handy in snow, going downhill. Paddles make that easier and keep both hands on the wheel. It’s not a matter of driving sporty, but a bit safer. As a skier, I drive in the snow a lot and Subies are excellent cars for that mission.
We live in a river valley. Lots of steep hills, ice and snow. I'm thinking the same thing.
Yuri: "a little too many buttons to get to Apple Carplay" Mate, chill out. It's literally 2 clicks😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 even Jacob was not approving of your thought ahahaha
2 clicks is more than one click
@@TheStraightPipes yeah, but almost all cars still don't have that feature. I do think they need to change the media and radio buttons to apple Carplay/ Android auto though!
I've drive the new generation Foresters a few times when they give a loner to drive. I can tell you it needs a bigger rear stabilizer bar. I replaced the stock rear stabilizer bar on my 2015 Forester with the 20mm one and it makes a big difference in tightening up the rear for turn-in and out.
I noticed that too. Rear suspension is a little too soft for my taste. Good to know there’s an easy fix