With all cars coming out with larger and larger infotainment screens a feature I’d like to see mentioned would be how easy it is to shutoff the display for night driving. Maybe this is a me only problem but the bright screens are very distracting in certain vehicles and can take 5 button presses to turn it black. Thanks for your great videos.
So the thing is the effect you have is cool but the way he presents it like the camera is a “buddy” is what it is, so in turn i feel like i am the person hes talking to.
Just ordered a 2024 Forester Wilderness edition and selected it over the RAV4 TRD edition because the AWD is more capable. New finance rates in Ontario with Subaru loyalty discount was waaaaaay cheaper than a used RAV4 TRD rate. I watched other videos and the Subaru AWD system beats the RAV4 TRD in some tests. Overall, Forester has best value and better AWD. RAV4 TRD has legendary Toyota reliability. Jeep is crap if you're keeping it long-term, would never drive one. Great videos guys for daily comments. I like this video mixed with actual off road testing sites.
Decided on a 22 forester convenience for us. Headroom is massive, I am 6'9" and comfortable with extra headroom sitting straight up, and not all the way down on the seat. You guys missed features like steering responsive headlights, the app for the cars comes free for 3 years after which its $75/yr, the lane keep and collision systems are up by the sunroof so people dont turn them off by accident and crash expecting them to be on. The lane keep with active cruise will work to a stop, and in stop and go traffic, its incredible for commuting. Little things like a rearview camera washer, auto highbeams, eyesight that will literally drive for you, and the massive amount of space inside were all winners for us. There are too many companies like kia that are selling on bells and whistles that become dated quickly. Subaru has been and still is a brand that has what you need, and nothing more. Its a great vehicle for canada and is one of the safest vehicles on the road for 2022 in this segment. Oh and ive heard people complain about halogen tail lights, its a little known fact that its used to help keep the taillights clear of snow from the bulbs heat during winter driving. All those LED lights get snow covered quickly with no heat output. Its a smaller brand and segment, and I enjoy that about it. The owners buy them with a purpose in mind, not because of the deals they have going or the one or two fancy features. The biggest thing i noticed is the obvious feel of Japanese quality over cars like Kia/Hyundai, and most domestics like Ford.
Don’t forget insurance cost. I’m going from a 2016 Honda CR-V to a 2022 Forester Wilderness. I’m adding replacement value to my insurance and my premium will increase by only $24/year. My insurance broker said it’s because Subaru are extremely safe. Can’t beat that!
kia has superior tech and interior though buddy.. that's just called stop and go/adaptive cruise control, super basic feature.. also putting them up by the sunroof still doesn't make sense, provide proof about the halogen heat output being a significant difference, that's the biggest load of BS I've heard in a while, completely unfounded dummy.
This is a realistic offroader for many people I think. For those who go camping semi-regularly but you're not trying to break your car on crazy tracks, have a job, family, and lifestyle that means most of the time you are on paved roads. Really wish Subaru would bring this trim down under.
One of the reasons they specifically mentioned hanging wetsuits was for whitewater kayakers. We may have to drive miles up a dirt road in the wilderness to get to a certain section of river we want to run. When you get back to the car it’s nice to have a place to hang wet gear to drip off a little before putting everything into a bucket or laying it on the rubber cargo liner for the drive home.
We’ve had our Forester Wilderness for about a week and love it! I never thought I’d say a naturally aspirated Subaru would feel quick but the new ratio is awesome! It moves the car with authority. Mind you the car isn’t fast but it responds! Such a nice overall package made in Japan.
Im so glad you mentioned when you're on a phone call it blocks the digital speed lol Its one of my least favorite things on my crosstrek sport. Another horrible thing about it is when you change volume, it covers the entire infotainment for like three seconds.
How is this even remotely "horrible?" You literally have a spedo right next to it... Subie engineers probably pulling their hair out at these stupid comments
What I like most about Subarus is that it's very easy to see out of them. This really helps and it makes it so even if you don't have a Subaru with a BSM system, there is still barely any blind zones. I have a 2012 Outback without Eyesight but honestly, I found that I don't really need it just because of the ride hight and the windows being quite large and open.
I agree -- I've been driving Foresters for 6 or 7 years. Traded a 2010 for a 2017 a couple of years ago. Also, I don't go offroad but the AWD gives a lot of confidence in any weather I'm likely to drive through.
I don't understand why Subaru's have had excellent visibility for well over 20 years, and American manufacturers STILL can't match that.. I have an 2019 crosstrek, and my mom has a 2018 Ford escape. I feel like I can barely see anything in the rear view mirror of the escape, back window feels smaller (probably is and I'm too lazy to look that up to confirm lol) due to bulkier body design and also the backup camera screen is smaller, farther away from you AND lower resolution.
Driver visibility has been a priority of subaru vehicles since they started making cars. They are not as great about it today but still better than most manufacturers
@@ianholmquist8492 Interesting. My first Forester previously belonged to my mother, who had trouble with her car's visibility and ease of entry/exit. I googled cars for seniors and the Forester came up. She liked it and drove it until she stopped driving, at which point she gave it to me. Fast forward to 2022, and as a newly-minted senior myself I appreciate those same qualities -- so much so that I bought another Forester.
@@Megadeth8908 I think it's because Subaru is utilitarian and practical while American cars are more concerned with looking cool and having a good engine with lots of power delivery. Two different types of car design philosophy
We’ve had our 23 Forester Wilderness 2 weeks now & love it. It handles very well and quite peppy considering it’s a CVT. We traded in a 14 Rogue (no engine issues with it) and it was not as quick. I’m so glad we went the Subaru way.
4:17 I rented an Impreza for a road trip and discovered that it had lane keep and it was a magical experience. The adaptive cruise control was great through Washington DC traffic because it worked to speeds as slow as 15 miles an hour so I was just steering it lol. But it would disengage after a full stop more than a minute or something. Cruise control would get disabled in inclement weather too because of the sensor thing in the front I'm guessing. Good driving car, handled like my Audi on the roads especially when it got wet out
@@Cozmo85 yes i think it did something like that. It was a cool thing to experience. The steering wheel would vibrate and pull you back to the center of the lane and stuff too. I was on a road trip so all that stuff helped. Had paddle shifters but I was trying to save gas and didn't really fiddle with them but they worked
I have a '17 outback and am always changing the adaptive to standard cruise control because the adaptive always seems to gas or break, rarely coasts. Like if the car sees brake lights why does it automatically start braking? I feel likw it should just cut the throttle and brake when needed. I tested adaptive cruise at 60mph highway and got 24mpg and if i controlled the cruise i got 26mpg on same road and similar conditions.
@@Hallowsaw it seems like a cool gadget for a car to have, honestly still magical in my recollection. Unfortunately in the rain it didn't function and disabled on its own but still a smooth car to get around with.
@@Hallowsaw i have a 2019 legacy and seems pretty good at following and doing engine brake before actually applying brakes, mostly measured in stop and go traffic i would say. my wifes old mb glc seemed to read red brake lights for the collision prevention and would beep more when driven aggressively :P but this one seems to read distance more than light in my opinion. have you researched if there is any sort of software update to their system as my car is teh same gen as yours just newer my? now itching to try regular cruise and see the revholding/mpg/etc.
Do what you will with this information: I have had a 2019 Forester Sport that I bought used with 10,000 miles on it. 3 years and 20,000 miles later, I'm still driving it and loving it every day. The real story is, though, that this is the only vehicle I've kept for more than a year in the last 5 or 6 years. I've had the Honda Civic, TWO Honda CR-Vs, a Honda Accord, and another Civic. The Forester is the only one that has stayed consistent through all that. Now, I see this Wilderness edition, and I feel like I just need to get rid of my Civic and have two Foresters in the driveway. For so many intangible reasons, I really do love this vehicle!
In Canada, this car has identical interior with Crosstrek (bigger obvi)+ same drive train+ same number. Crosstrek sell at around 32000-35000, Froester did a few exterior change and a lift, now the “Wilderness” sell at 43000….. It’s a ripe off, buy Ourback instead which has 280hp and way better interior and everything else
ground clearance matters more than you think. Thats probably the biggest problem with the wrx and sti. Best awd in the business but since they're pretty expensive for 2014+ , not many will plow through heavy snow due to bumper or undercarriage damage , or at least i wouldn't.
I concur here. It needs better front and rear differentials. A factory locking rear diff would do it for me - these are terrible at driving up dirt hills (read that as forest roads).
@@alexion7160 my subaru legacy would have an argument with you. We had a 8in snow store a few weeks ago and while a lot of suvs were getting stuck ON the road i had to go off road to get around and my car did fine.
Thanks for the review. For what it’s worth, the reason I’m looking at the Forester Wilderness is that I like hiking in the Rockies, especially Colorado 14ers. All of the 14er trailheads are on some sort of road, but many are listed as 4WD. Commenters occasionally discuss “after getting past where the Subarus stop, …”, so I’ve been considering a Jeep Wrangler or a Bronco so that I can tackle any of them. However, they cost $40000 with basic amenities and I have a tough time justifying such an expensive solution to probable overkill on a once-a-year trip up a mountain road. To me, the intentional design choices of the Subaru Wilderness line - better obstacle angles, lower gearing options, front camera - provide the functionality that I need while not requiring me to pay for a rock climber. I think these cars are first movers into a true gap between Sport (I.e., soccer mom) utility vehicles for carrying people and equipment on a road and 4WDs that are clunky but can go absolutely anywhere.
Just want to throw some recognition out there for that sweet 360 one-take. Sometimes when watching RUclips videos it’s hard to get a good idea of what the car actually looks like, since many videos are just cut to still frames of a designated angle. This view allowed me to see more precisely all of the angles and get a better idea of what this car would actually look like in person. Props for that effort
6:05 Gold on blue is traditional Subaru competition colors back from WRC days with Blue WRX on gold wheels. Need Prodrive STi Forester to take on x3 m340i and Bronco Raptor.
Just a point, a lot of us DO SCUBA diver in the forest. Mostly us cave divers. And the roads (if you can call them that) to get back to them mean we usually need trucks or SUVs. So this is actually really useful for a lot of us.
Matt Farha has been praising this thing...Seems nice. Love the color. Still think the first gen Forester was the best. Small. Boxy. Wagon-ish. Fun to drive.
@@kimcloud8995 Exactly. It's also worth noting that the Wilderness Outback has the turbocharged engine with 260hp. What the Smoking Tire folks especially liked about the Outback, is that on gravel roads it felt like a rally vehicle. Not sure they'd get the same positive sensations driving something with Forester proportions (2 inches higher roofline, shorter overall length) and 71 less horsepower. But maybe?
The 2022 Forester is amazing. The engine feels much powered than it is, feels like 200+HP. The CVT downshifts imitation is done so smoothly, better than Mazda regular automatic, for example. The higher trims don’t have the huge screen and still get bunch of buttons. Upgraded stereo sounds amazing. Space is awesome, the hood design from the driver side is a nice to look at. The blacked out front makes it look much better. Seats are great and the car feels solid. Overall, this is an amazing car. I never understood why it sells so well until I drove the 2022 model. Absolutely amazing car.
it doesn't though, not even remotely quick unlike mazda's products.. or even hyundai's lmfao, way more torque for actual towing or getting out of rough spots. they have better interiors too
My wife has the 21 Forester Sport. I do agree that when a phone call comes in, and blocks the digital speed is quiet annoying. In my 21 WRX manual, when a call comes I still can see my digital speed. Regardless of which trim you choose in the Forester, it’s a great vehicle!
Nice, I like the forester sport and it is a better deal than the wilderness for what you get. If I bought another subaru it would be a forester. But yea same deal as your wrx with my 21 sti in terms of calls, except no one can hear me on the phone in car since I put a ridiculously loud catback exhaust on.. which makes me love it even more.
I've owned a 2011 2.5 Outback for nearly a decade. It's a good (but not exciting) daily driver with impressive all-weather traction and utility. I don't care for the CVT -- which required a $2500 servicing -- or the cooling system, which required a radiator replacement.
One thing big feature they left out which is why i bought this over other crossover adventure vehicles is that the wilderness gets not only a revised gearing but the transmission is from the Subaru Ascent and comes with a transmission cooler making it better for low speed crawling off road. Most automatic transmissions like Toyota and Honda or other Subarus will overheat under stressful crawling or excessive use of the AWD where one or more tires are spinning. Subaru not only gave it the looks but also gave it good off road upgrades
Yep, it was. Except now it’s too busy lol. I still prefer the Forester screen even though the phone thing is soooo dumb. Thankfully I’m rarely on the phone in my Forester
I have a 2021 Crosstrek Sport Wilderness! Yup! Same engine and a 2" lift, Toyo All Terrain III's one size larger .. aluminium skid plate, all of which gives me 12" of clearance at the pumpkin. The Outback is 578 lbs heavier, 15.5" longer and 3.2" longer WB. The Crosstrek works well for one person .. for two you need an Outback.. My son just bought a 2022 Wilderness for him and the wife because he liked the way I had set up the Crosstrek. 🤠
@@nathansofparadise There is an extra $5k price point for the turbo. But yeah, this should have definitely come with the turbo option. Next generation they’ll probably scrap the turbo in both models and go with a hybrid electric “power on demand” type thing
1. The 2.5 is not new by any stretch of the imagination. (I love the 2.5 and own a vehicle that has one but it is basically the same old ej from the 90's) check out the VIN or the numbers on the engine block and you'll see. 2. You have to work pretty hard to find a car this size with less power. My first car, a 1989 mercury Sable wagon, had about the same power to weight ratio as the forester wilderness. And that did 0-60 in over 10 seconds. (Which is not good)
Researched this car segment for the last 2 months, my findings, - 5th gen forester rated #1 in safety and readability over all others including RAV, trial hawk, honda and bronco. That said, it has been a long road for Subaru from the CVT tranny , oil consumption, head gasket issues of past generation vehicles. At 6'3, CR just announced the Forester is #1 with tall drivers as well, no surprise as the "green house" visibility is very attractive. All the safety dings can be disabled permanently, with the exception of engine on/off at stop. After market solution will solve that as well. So, I will be picking up my Subaru Forester Wilderness / pearl white next week. Comfortable driving on and off road, safety and readability, looks, honest service advisors that I have visited with during this time, all have pushed me this direction. And finally driving my daughters 2017 Forester premium, sold me on being a Subie owner. Suggested maintenance to ensure long life; 30k diff (F/R) service, 40k CVT Transmission service, and oil changes every 4k. HAPPY TRAILS
Seemed like a really cool way to shoot this car. You both looked comfortable in the car . The performance seemed good for what it is. I like that you covered that it’s a rugged edition with the changes, and I’m convinced they’ll sell but man, they’re expensive. There’s no real comp in that range though . Subaru is still offering the adventure, no surprises here. Great video
I have a 2021 Outback touring XT .. I love it’s all round capability and with the 2.4 turbo a really fun drive too… The fully loaded tech and luxury / ride quality provides the best value of any brand IMHO. Very impressed so far 12,000 miles of untroubled motoring and my dog loves it too :-)
The phone call/digital speedo thing is a non-issue imo, and somehow Subarus just always manage to look and feel like Subarus, every facelift and new release has a similar vibe They're like auto-maker auteurs in that sense
Got a 2019 Crosstrek Sport here north of Montréal and I have used X-Mode 3 times only over the past few years, standard AWD system will get you 99% of the places you want in winter conditions without the additional settings. Now just waiting for my 2023 Subaru Touring arriving next December.
Love the videos guys, keep them coming. But please stop comparing these launch controls or brake boost with super cars. Compare them to the CR-V or Rav4 and so on
You can actually drive with the rear view camera on! (Useful if you are carrying something big in the back and your rear view mirror is blocked. Hold Home button and double tap volume knob, you'll enter factory mode. Go to camera settings and you'll have a love feed to the back up cam that can stay on while driving.
The buttons to turn off lane keep and collision stuff are in the same place as the Ascent. First thing I do when I get in my wife's Ascent is turn ALL that eyesight safety stuff off. I can't over emphasize how annoying it is to have your car constantly beeping and dinging at you when you're just driving the car......
If your car is constantly warning you that you’re about to crash, you may want to re-evaluate your driving. I have 2 cars with a full suite of driver assistance and I have 0 issues with them “constantly beeping and dinging”
Wife and I just test drove one last week and loved those freaking seats so much. Would definitely recommend sitting on them before looking at other choices
@@Chadwicky35 Wow, really? Mazda gets lots of praise for their luxurious interiors, but I guess in your case the seats just didn't fit right. Interesting info, thanks for sharing!
I demand the return of Yuri delivering the price so I can hear him say, "Ca-neiggggghhhh-dian". Jokes aside, you fellas are doing a great job. Love the 360⁰ outside review
I have Subaru Outback 2021 on that you can get rid of the phone call blocking the digital speedometer. The up and down arrow on steering helps you get rid of it.
FYI, for someone who has a Forster with Eyesight, there was some annoyances that I wonder if the newer gen handles better. 1. It cannot handle bright sunlight and turns off. Kind of makes sense, camera sensors get overwhelmed. 2. If the wind shield is dirty enough, it also turns off. 3 extra costs if you need to change the windshield as you need OEM glass or run the risk of eyesight not working well, or needing recalibration of the eyesight system.
Your complaints are typical for camera centric safety systems. If you can’t see well, they can see. We upgrade to a 2022 from a 2016 and the system has been better. But not worlds better. We went through 3 windshields with our 2016 and yes, technically Subaru requires oem glass and calibration, but 3rd party companies have the equipment now to do everything needed to make it safe.
My 2017 Forester does occasionally have Eyesight turn off driving directly at the setting sun, definitely has more issues with windshield being dirty/icy but can't imagine they can avoid that, and as for the windshield I have had two break from stones thrown by dump trucks and both times got replacement via insurance through Speedy and they do the camera calibration as well with the non-OEM windshield. Definitely would be a big expense if it wasn't the same insurance deductible... Overall. love my 17 Forester Limited (already up to about 135k kms) but this Wilderness Edition looks nice! And yes Yuri it was a lot of fun in the big Ontario dump a couple of weeks ago, especially when I had to go dig my wife in her AWD Rogue out of where she got stuck and I had no issues...
@@ocman11 oh yeah? What did you feel was better about the 2022 eyesight system? I have a 2015, I mean they are minor complaints that I had, but just putting that info out for others.
Everything about your reviews is perfect but I have one request….can you please show the key fob for each vehicle? That’s something I always enjoy and I’m sure others would also. Would take no time at all
I loved my ‘15 Forester XT but after 5 years it had some mysterious starting issues and I dumped it. Also developed a roof leak not related to the sunroof. Wilderness edition makes me want to try again.
My only issue with the infotainment is that it doesn’t change screens. If you have your presets and you use the steering wheel controls to change presets, once you get to preset 7, it won’t change the screen to reflect which page you’re on. Also, if you turn the car off and you’re in preset 7, the screen shows your first page of presets while playing the one you left off at.
Great video! I had seen the regular Forester at a dealer but had only seen the Wilderness online. I was out walking the other day and saw a Wilderness in the driveway of a neighbor. He was nice enough to give me a thorough look see. He said he loves it. I hope the 2023 Foresters will be added to the Subaru website soon so I can get my order placed. The blue in your video is my preference. Thank you!
That 360 around the Forester was fantastic. It's great to hear the handling is pretty good. I drive a 2017 Forester XT and I really like the handling, so it's good to know the wilderness still preserves some of that. The new versions of EyeSight and X-mode are also a big improvement! The lane centering and additional X-modes are a nice touch.
I like your contents guys. Especially the enthusiasm that you have during the shots is impressive. It is obvious that you love what you do and always look for ways to improve the quality of your work. In this video though, rotating the camera around the car made me dizzy :) It was too fast and way far away from the interest point (the car and Jacob) It felt like Jacob was running around the car to be able to stay with the camera. Good thing he did not fall and injure himself. I think this was the first time you have tried the technique. Good idea but needs a bit more finesse. I am sure you will find a way to make it much better. Good luck.
I just picked up my Geyser Blue Forester Wilderness a few days ago. Honestly, at $38K, it feels like a major bargain. The amount of safety and tech including self-driving mode, the upgraded suspension and ground clearance, the fairly significant changes and upgrades to the CVT, the steering responsive LED headlights with LED fog lights, power tailgate, and front camera make this feel very special in the segment. Could it use more power? Sure, but it feels surprisingly adequate and responsive, thanks to the lower gearing and CVT changes. I love this generation of the Nav system as it still has physical buttons for climate control and heated seats. The only thing on the radar for me is upgrading the tires to Falken Wildpeak AT3 in 235 size. Super happy with it.
I just bought a Touring (US) model. The only thing I wish my car had compared to the Wilderness Edition is the capability to 3000 pounds. Other than that it’s a good weekend adventure, family, daily driver. Triple 👍 shout out to the Philippines!
I love the vapour coming out the back end. So cool. And it’s loud too so an attention grabber. Plus I really enjoy the smell of petro mixed with mint pine nut fragrance. It helps me relax.
The Subaru Eyesight driver assist system does not rely on radar (“radar cruise” as Yuri calls it) but from a pair of cameras mounted behind the rearview mirror
Around where I live, Subaru is huge. People take them off road too. Usually not new ones, but this will be old enough one day to take on a trail without worry.
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Hoping that you find something aimed at Canada similiar to Trucar.
With all cars coming out with larger and larger infotainment screens a feature I’d like to see mentioned would be how easy it is to shutoff the display for night driving. Maybe this is a me only problem but the bright screens are very distracting in certain vehicles and can take 5 button presses to turn it black. Thanks for your great videos.
Yuri is just loving the Segway 😂 1:45
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I used the Subaru V.I.P. program. saved $3000 on a new 2018 Outback 4 years ago
Dude the “walk” around in the beginning is awesome. Super cool effect.
So the thing is the effect you have is cool but the way he presents it like the camera is a “buddy” is what it is, so in turn i feel like i am the person hes talking to.
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Just ordered a 2024 Forester Wilderness edition and selected it over the RAV4 TRD edition because the AWD is more capable. New finance rates in Ontario with Subaru loyalty discount was waaaaaay cheaper than a used RAV4 TRD rate. I watched other videos and the Subaru AWD system beats the RAV4 TRD in some tests. Overall, Forester has best value and better AWD. RAV4 TRD has legendary Toyota reliability. Jeep is crap if you're keeping it long-term, would never drive one.
Great videos guys for daily comments. I like this video mixed with actual off road testing sites.
Decided on a 22 forester convenience for us. Headroom is massive, I am 6'9" and comfortable with extra headroom sitting straight up, and not all the way down on the seat. You guys missed features like steering responsive headlights, the app for the cars comes free for 3 years after which its $75/yr, the lane keep and collision systems are up by the sunroof so people dont turn them off by accident and crash expecting them to be on. The lane keep with active cruise will work to a stop, and in stop and go traffic, its incredible for commuting. Little things like a rearview camera washer, auto highbeams, eyesight that will literally drive for you, and the massive amount of space inside were all winners for us. There are too many companies like kia that are selling on bells and whistles that become dated quickly. Subaru has been and still is a brand that has what you need, and nothing more. Its a great vehicle for canada and is one of the safest vehicles on the road for 2022 in this segment. Oh and ive heard people complain about halogen tail lights, its a little known fact that its used to help keep the taillights clear of snow from the bulbs heat during winter driving. All those LED lights get snow covered quickly with no heat output. Its a smaller brand and segment, and I enjoy that about it. The owners buy them with a purpose in mind, not because of the deals they have going or the one or two fancy features. The biggest thing i noticed is the obvious feel of Japanese quality over cars like Kia/Hyundai, and most domestics like Ford.
Thanks!
Don’t forget insurance cost. I’m going from a 2016 Honda CR-V to a 2022 Forester Wilderness. I’m adding replacement value to my insurance and my premium will increase by only $24/year. My insurance broker said it’s because Subaru are extremely safe. Can’t beat that!
@@guylainedumulon4089 I went from a 2020 Camry to the forester. I went down $20/month in insurance.
kia has superior tech and interior though buddy.. that's just called stop and go/adaptive cruise control, super basic feature.. also putting them up by the sunroof still doesn't make sense, provide proof about the halogen heat output being a significant difference, that's the biggest load of BS I've heard in a while, completely unfounded dummy.
@@roboticvenom1935 all good, enjoy your Kia, they will be dead in 5 years and the Subaru will live on lol
This is a realistic offroader for many people I think. For those who go camping semi-regularly but you're not trying to break your car on crazy tracks, have a job, family, and lifestyle that means most of the time you are on paved roads. Really wish Subaru would bring this trim down under.
Yup check mine out
Yo that interior/exterior segment where you fly around the car is sick 🙌🏽
Seriously, the camera work is so cool! I wonder if it's Yuri on a hoverboard, a drone, or something else 🤔
I agree but WAYYYY too far away. Can’t see much
I thought the same also! Make this a signature segment for your channel. Never have I seen anything as dynamic and flowed perfectly.
One of the reasons they specifically mentioned hanging wetsuits was for whitewater kayakers. We may have to drive miles up a dirt road in the wilderness to get to a certain section of river we want to run. When you get back to the car it’s nice to have a place to hang wet gear to drip off a little before putting everything into a bucket or laying it on the rubber cargo liner for the drive home.
Also, if you are whitewater rafting, like in the Adirondacks, you’re going to need a wet suit.
That makes perfect sense, hadn't even thought about that
We’ve had our Forester Wilderness for about a week and love it! I never thought I’d say a naturally aspirated Subaru would feel quick but the new ratio is awesome! It moves the car with authority. Mind you the car isn’t fast but it responds! Such a nice overall package made in Japan.
We all know the car isn’t fast.. we’re stuck driving behind you going 10 under the limit.
@@CWebs haters gonna hate
@@puffdc Not just haters… everyone driving behind a Subaru hates it.
Copper is the color of the accents. 😆
Did you pay a huge markup? Never dealt with a Subaru dealer before.
Im so glad you mentioned when you're on a phone call it blocks the digital speed lol Its one of my least favorite things on my crosstrek sport. Another horrible thing about it is when you change volume, it covers the entire infotainment for like three seconds.
Ya it’s rough
That’s such a generational thing preferring digital to analog lol! At least with analog you can tell the info by position you don’t have to read it
How is this even remotely "horrible?" You literally have a spedo right next to it... Subie engineers probably pulling their hair out at these stupid comments
@@taylor0941 ehh it’s just bad UI/UX… not much too it lol
On my 2021 Outback XT, you press the up or down menu arrows on the steering wheel and the call pop up goes away.
Nice to see the Aztek continuing to inspire!
It’s mega uglier, Aztec was cool
Don't like it, don't buy it!
What I like most about Subarus is that it's very easy to see out of them. This really helps and it makes it so even if you don't have a Subaru with a BSM system, there is still barely any blind zones. I have a 2012 Outback without Eyesight but honestly, I found that I don't really need it just because of the ride hight and the windows being quite large and open.
I agree -- I've been driving Foresters for 6 or 7 years. Traded a 2010 for a 2017 a couple of years ago. Also, I don't go offroad but the AWD gives a lot of confidence in any weather I'm likely to drive through.
I don't understand why Subaru's have had excellent visibility for well over 20 years, and American manufacturers STILL can't match that.. I have an 2019 crosstrek, and my mom has a 2018 Ford escape. I feel like I can barely see anything in the rear view mirror of the escape, back window feels smaller (probably is and I'm too lazy to look that up to confirm lol) due to bulkier body design and also the backup camera screen is smaller, farther away from you AND lower resolution.
Driver visibility has been a priority of subaru vehicles since they started making cars. They are not as great about it today but still better than most manufacturers
@@ianholmquist8492 Interesting. My first Forester previously belonged to my mother, who had trouble with her car's visibility and ease of entry/exit. I googled cars for seniors and the Forester came up. She liked it and drove it until she stopped driving, at which point she gave it to me.
Fast forward to 2022, and as a newly-minted senior myself I appreciate those same qualities -- so much so that I bought another Forester.
@@Megadeth8908 I think it's because Subaru is utilitarian and practical while American cars are more concerned with looking cool and having a good engine with lots of power delivery. Two different types of car design philosophy
We’ve had our 23 Forester Wilderness 2 weeks now & love it. It handles very well and quite peppy considering it’s a CVT. We traded in a 14 Rogue (no engine issues with it) and it was not as quick. I’m so glad we went the Subaru way.
4:17 I rented an Impreza for a road trip and discovered that it had lane keep and it was a magical experience. The adaptive cruise control was great through Washington DC traffic because it worked to speeds as slow as 15 miles an hour so I was just steering it lol. But it would disengage after a full stop more than a minute or something. Cruise control would get disabled in inclement weather too because of the sensor thing in the front I'm guessing. Good driving car, handled like my Audi on the roads especially when it got wet out
Once you stop and it disengages you just need to barely tap the accelerator and it will start again
@@Cozmo85 yes i think it did something like that. It was a cool thing to experience. The steering wheel would vibrate and pull you back to the center of the lane and stuff too. I was on a road trip so all that stuff helped. Had paddle shifters but I was trying to save gas and didn't really fiddle with them but they worked
I have a '17 outback and am always changing the adaptive to standard cruise control because the adaptive always seems to gas or break, rarely coasts. Like if the car sees brake lights why does it automatically start braking? I feel likw it should just cut the throttle and brake when needed. I tested adaptive cruise at 60mph highway and got 24mpg and if i controlled the cruise i got 26mpg on same road and similar conditions.
@@Hallowsaw it seems like a cool gadget for a car to have, honestly still magical in my recollection. Unfortunately in the rain it didn't function and disabled on its own but still a smooth car to get around with.
@@Hallowsaw i have a 2019 legacy and seems pretty good at following and doing engine brake before actually applying brakes, mostly measured in stop and go traffic i would say. my wifes old mb glc seemed to read red brake lights for the collision prevention and would beep more when driven aggressively :P but this one seems to read distance more than light in my opinion. have you researched if there is any sort of software update to their system as my car is teh same gen as yours just newer my? now itching to try regular cruise and see the revholding/mpg/etc.
Do what you will with this information: I have had a 2019 Forester Sport that I bought used with 10,000 miles on it. 3 years and 20,000 miles later, I'm still driving it and loving it every day. The real story is, though, that this is the only vehicle I've kept for more than a year in the last 5 or 6 years. I've had the Honda Civic, TWO Honda CR-Vs, a Honda Accord, and another Civic. The Forester is the only one that has stayed consistent through all that. Now, I see this Wilderness edition, and I feel like I just need to get rid of my Civic and have two Foresters in the driveway. For so many intangible reasons, I really do love this vehicle!
I'll send you my crosstrek and sell your sport, we'll go get two foresters together
I have family in Michigan and they are Subaru loyalists. I feel like I understand why after watching this video.
Just snowed like 8+ inches in St. Louis. My Subaru Impreza drove through it like a tank. It's really impressive.
Not in Ohio, they're all about fn Honda and Toyota. Very few Subaru in the parking lot at the plant I work at
Camera work around cliche corner was a beauty. Keep it up!
In Canada, this car has identical interior with Crosstrek (bigger obvi)+ same drive train+ same number. Crosstrek sell at around 32000-35000, Froester did a few exterior change and a lift, now the “Wilderness” sell at 43000….. It’s a ripe off, buy Ourback instead which has 280hp and way better interior and everything else
The STI has limited slip differentials. The forester has open diffs. The only way the forester will outperform the STI is with ground clearance.
ground clearance matters more than you think. Thats probably the biggest problem with the wrx and sti. Best awd in the business but since they're pretty expensive for 2014+ , not many will plow through heavy snow due to bumper or undercarriage damage , or at least i wouldn't.
@@alexion7160 correct, that's why I said the forester will outperform the sti in terms of ground clearance.
I concur here. It needs better front and rear differentials. A factory locking rear diff would do it for me - these are terrible at driving up dirt hills (read that as forest roads).
@@alexion7160 my subaru legacy would have an argument with you. We had a 8in snow store a few weeks ago and while a lot of suvs were getting stuck ON the road i had to go off road to get around and my car did fine.
Lift the manual WRX/sti
That 360 shot in the beginning was dope, a little far but sick nonetheless. Great video guys.
Thanks for the review. For what it’s worth, the reason I’m looking at the Forester Wilderness is that I like hiking in the Rockies, especially Colorado 14ers. All of the 14er trailheads are on some sort of road, but many are listed as 4WD. Commenters occasionally discuss “after getting past where the Subarus stop, …”, so I’ve been considering a Jeep Wrangler or a Bronco so that I can tackle any of them. However, they cost $40000 with basic amenities and I have a tough time justifying such an expensive solution to probable overkill on a once-a-year trip up a mountain road. To me, the intentional design choices of the Subaru Wilderness line - better obstacle angles, lower gearing options, front camera - provide the functionality that I need while not requiring me to pay for a rock climber. I think these cars are first movers into a true gap between Sport (I.e., soccer mom) utility vehicles for carrying people and equipment on a road and 4WDs that are clunky but can go absolutely anywhere.
Just want to throw some recognition out there for that sweet 360 one-take. Sometimes when watching RUclips videos it’s hard to get a good idea of what the car actually looks like, since many videos are just cut to still frames of a designated angle. This view allowed me to see more precisely all of the angles and get a better idea of what this car would actually look like in person. Props for that effort
6:05 Gold on blue is traditional Subaru competition colors back from WRC days with Blue WRX on gold wheels. Need Prodrive STi Forester to take on x3 m340i and Bronco Raptor.
Just a point, a lot of us DO SCUBA diver in the forest. Mostly us cave divers. And the roads (if you can call them that) to get back to them mean we usually need trucks or SUVs. So this is actually really useful for a lot of us.
I would take this over pretty much any other SUV that is comparable, but I would rather a Wilderness Crosstrek.
Don't worry, is coming!
why though?
Matt Farha has been praising this thing...Seems nice. Love the color.
Still think the first gen Forester was the best. Small. Boxy. Wagon-ish. Fun to drive.
Actually, MF has been praising the Wilderness Outback.
@@kimcloud8995 Exactly. It's also worth noting that the Wilderness Outback has the turbocharged engine with 260hp. What the Smoking Tire folks especially liked about the Outback, is that on gravel roads it felt like a rally vehicle. Not sure they'd get the same positive sensations driving something with Forester proportions (2 inches higher roofline, shorter overall length) and 71 less horsepower. But maybe?
The 2022 Forester is amazing. The engine feels much powered than it is, feels like 200+HP. The CVT downshifts imitation is done so smoothly, better than Mazda regular automatic, for example. The higher trims don’t have the huge screen and still get bunch of buttons. Upgraded stereo sounds amazing. Space is awesome, the hood design from the driver side is a nice to look at. The blacked out front makes it look much better. Seats are great and the car feels solid. Overall, this is an amazing car. I never understood why it sells so well until I drove the 2022 model. Absolutely amazing car.
Agreed. It feels more like a mid-size suv space wise. Seats are incredibly comfortable- even for a big dude
it doesn't though, not even remotely quick unlike mazda's products.. or even hyundai's lmfao, way more torque for actual towing or getting out of rough spots. they have better interiors too
I like the walk around portion of the video! Definitely feels like you are right there next to the vehicle 👍🏽 I dig it
My wife has the 21 Forester Sport. I do agree that when a phone call comes in, and blocks the digital speed is quiet annoying. In my 21 WRX manual, when a call comes I still can see my digital speed. Regardless of which trim you choose in the Forester, it’s a great vehicle!
Nice, I like the forester sport and it is a better deal than the wilderness for what you get. If I bought another subaru it would be a forester. But yea same deal as your wrx with my 21 sti in terms of calls, except no one can hear me on the phone in car since I put a ridiculously loud catback exhaust on.. which makes me love it even more.
I've owned a 2011 2.5 Outback for nearly a decade. It's a good (but not exciting) daily driver with impressive all-weather traction and utility. I don't care for the CVT -- which required a $2500 servicing -- or the cooling system, which required a radiator replacement.
I've had a 2017 wrx for a couple years and spent $2500 on a clutch replacement. Tradeoffs I suppose.
Jakub- that long uninterrupted review sequence was amazing!!!!!
One thing big feature they left out which is why i bought this over other crossover adventure vehicles is that the wilderness gets not only a revised gearing but the transmission is from the Subaru Ascent and comes with a transmission cooler making it better for low speed crawling off road.
Most automatic transmissions like Toyota and Honda or other Subarus will overheat under stressful crawling or excessive use of the AWD where one or more tires are spinning.
Subaru not only gave it the looks but also gave it good off road upgrades
Just got one a week ago. We’re in love!
I think the phone blocking speedo thing is fixed with the Outback. Also the paddles are nice when diving up down mountain roads to keep you in "gear".
Yep, it was. Except now it’s too busy lol. I still prefer the Forester screen even though the phone thing is soooo dumb. Thankfully I’m rarely on the phone in my Forester
I have a 2021 Crosstrek Sport Wilderness! Yup! Same engine and a 2" lift, Toyo All Terrain III's one size larger .. aluminium skid plate, all of which gives me 12" of clearance at the pumpkin. The Outback is 578 lbs heavier, 15.5" longer and 3.2" longer WB. The Crosstrek works well for one person .. for two you need an Outback.. My son just bought a 2022 Wilderness for him and the wife because he liked the way I had set up the Crosstrek. 🤠
I have the Outback Wilderness. I love it! They should have put the larger turbo engine in the Forester as well.
I can't see getting the Forester Wilderness over the Outback Wilderness for this reason! That turbo makes the car sneaky fun to drive.
@@nathansofparadise There is an extra $5k price point for the turbo. But yeah, this should have definitely come with the turbo option. Next generation they’ll probably scrap the turbo in both models and go with a hybrid electric “power on demand” type thing
I bought a forester wilderness in January really like it. My first SUV last car was a WRX.
The 360 around the car was absolutely incredible
We have two 2021 Crosstrek Outdoor with the new 2.5 …. Great cars for our Canadian winter and with 182 HP ..they move along fine thank you very much …
1. The 2.5 is not new by any stretch of the imagination. (I love the 2.5 and own a vehicle that has one but it is basically the same old ej from the 90's) check out the VIN or the numbers on the engine block and you'll see.
2. You have to work pretty hard to find a car this size with less power. My first car, a 1989 mercury Sable wagon, had about the same power to weight ratio as the forester wilderness. And that did 0-60 in over 10 seconds. (Which is not good)
Oh that music in the intro brings back so many memories 😭
Researched this car segment for the last 2 months, my findings, - 5th gen forester rated #1 in safety and readability over all others including RAV, trial hawk, honda and bronco. That said, it has been a long road for Subaru from the CVT tranny , oil consumption, head gasket issues of past generation vehicles. At 6'3, CR just announced the Forester is #1 with tall drivers as well, no surprise as the "green house" visibility is very attractive. All the safety dings can be disabled permanently, with the exception of engine on/off at stop. After market solution will solve that as well. So, I will be picking up my Subaru Forester Wilderness / pearl white next week. Comfortable driving on and off road, safety and readability, looks, honest service advisors that I have visited with during this time, all have pushed me this direction. And finally driving my daughters 2017 Forester premium, sold me on being a Subie owner. Suggested maintenance to ensure long life; 30k diff (F/R) service, 40k CVT Transmission service, and oil changes every 4k. HAPPY TRAILS
Seemed like a really cool way to shoot this car. You both looked comfortable in the car . The performance seemed good for what it is. I like that you covered that it’s a rugged edition with the changes, and I’m convinced they’ll sell but man, they’re expensive. There’s no real comp in that range though . Subaru is still offering the adventure, no surprises here. Great video
I have a 2021 Outback touring XT .. I love it’s all round capability and with the 2.4 turbo a really fun drive too… The fully loaded tech and luxury / ride quality provides the best value of any brand IMHO. Very impressed so far 12,000 miles of untroubled motoring and my dog loves it too :-)
Production value through the roof!
The phone call/digital speedo thing is a non-issue imo, and somehow Subarus just always manage to look and feel like Subarus, every facelift and new release has a similar vibe
They're like auto-maker auteurs in that sense
The segment where you proposed subaru build an "all plastic cladding vehicle" had me rolling! 🤣
Could work for a new Brat :P
Got a 2019 Crosstrek Sport here north of Montréal and I have used X-Mode 3 times only over the past few years, standard AWD system will get you 99% of the places you want in winter conditions without the additional settings. Now just waiting for my 2023 Subaru Touring arriving next December.
Love the videos guys, keep them coming. But please stop comparing these launch controls or brake boost with super cars. Compare them to the CR-V or Rav4 and so on
My 90 year old grandfather has last years model 👍
You can actually drive with the rear view camera on! (Useful if you are carrying something big in the back and your rear view mirror is blocked.
Hold Home button and double tap volume knob, you'll enter factory mode.
Go to camera settings and you'll have a love feed to the back up cam that can stay on while driving.
The buttons to turn off lane keep and collision stuff are in the same place as the Ascent. First thing I do when I get in my wife's Ascent is turn ALL that eyesight safety stuff off. I can't over emphasize how annoying it is to have your car constantly beeping and dinging at you when you're just driving the car......
If your car is constantly warning you that you’re about to crash, you may want to re-evaluate your driving. I have 2 cars with a full suite of driver assistance and I have 0 issues with them “constantly beeping and dinging”
Guys it’s Bronze we just ordered one will be at dealership in may. Can’t wait
They showed us the wilderness Crosstrek already…but they called it the WRX for some reason.
LMAO
Good grief
The camera was non-stop moving around the vehicle while you introduce the car was so cool
Brilliant Camerawork.
One of your best vids…. Well done.
Wife and I just test drove one last week and loved those freaking seats so much. Would definitely recommend sitting on them before looking at other choices
Tsp.truecar.com
Dude- So Comfortable. I just traded in a 2 week old CX5 Carbon Turbo because the seats killed me- Night and day with the Forester
@@Chadwicky35 Wow, really? Mazda gets lots of praise for their luxurious interiors, but I guess in your case the seats just didn't fit right. Interesting info, thanks for sharing!
LOVE the way you guys are doing the interior segment with the Segway etc!
Love the Synth beats in the beginning, wasn’t expecting to jam so hard
1:40 that’s some quality telephoto lens and steady hands. Great production!
Yuri has a body mounted stablisized rig and he's on one of those hoverboards
it's just a gimbal in a car 🤷🏼♂️
It’s a ronin m and a Segway. No body mount
I demand the return of Yuri delivering the price so I can hear him say, "Ca-neiggggghhhh-dian". Jokes aside, you fellas are doing a great job. Love the 360⁰ outside review
Really like that spin around camera thing, hope that comes to all your reviews
I have Subaru Outback 2021 on that you can get rid of the phone call blocking the digital speedometer.
The up and down arrow on steering helps you get rid of it.
FYI, for someone who has a Forster with Eyesight, there was some annoyances that I wonder if the newer gen handles better. 1. It cannot handle bright sunlight and turns off. Kind of makes sense, camera sensors get overwhelmed. 2. If the wind shield is dirty enough, it also turns off. 3 extra costs if you need to change the windshield as you need OEM glass or run the risk of eyesight not working well, or needing recalibration of the eyesight system.
Your complaints are typical for camera centric safety systems. If you can’t see well, they can see. We upgrade to a 2022 from a 2016 and the system has been better. But not worlds better.
We went through 3 windshields with our 2016 and yes, technically Subaru requires oem glass and calibration, but 3rd party companies have the equipment now to do everything needed to make it safe.
My 2017 Forester does occasionally have Eyesight turn off driving directly at the setting sun, definitely has more issues with windshield being dirty/icy but can't imagine they can avoid that, and as for the windshield I have had two break from stones thrown by dump trucks and both times got replacement via insurance through Speedy and they do the camera calibration as well with the non-OEM windshield. Definitely would be a big expense if it wasn't the same insurance deductible...
Overall. love my 17 Forester Limited (already up to about 135k kms) but this Wilderness Edition looks nice!
And yes Yuri it was a lot of fun in the big Ontario dump a couple of weeks ago, especially when I had to go dig my wife in her AWD Rogue out of where she got stuck and I had no issues...
@@ocman11 oh yeah? What did you feel was better about the 2022 eyesight system? I have a 2015, I mean they are minor complaints that I had, but just putting that info out for others.
saw one the other day - all black. looked fantastic
9:00. Speaking of wristwatches, Jakub is on point with DJ fluted and jubilee. Classic look
Thank you 🥰
Everything about your reviews is perfect but I have one request….can you please show the key fob for each vehicle? That’s something I always enjoy and I’m sure others would also. Would take no time at all
Would be awesome to see the outback wilderness review with the 2.4 turbo engine!
we just got my wife the 2022 Forester Sport and it's great
The Straight Pipes is becoming Linus Tech Tips with the integrations and segways. I LOVE IT! 👌🏻
I loved my ‘15 Forester XT but after 5 years it had some mysterious starting issues and I dumped it. Also developed a roof leak not related to the sunroof. Wilderness edition makes me want to try again.
I opted out on the sunroof option
Loving the new camera angles.
That 360 style review was live ! Well done
My only issue with the infotainment is that it doesn’t change screens. If you have your presets and you use the steering wheel controls to change presets, once you get to preset 7, it won’t change the screen to reflect which page you’re on. Also, if you turn the car off and you’re in preset 7, the screen shows your first page of presets while playing the one you left off at.
Great video! I had seen the regular Forester at a dealer but had only seen the Wilderness online. I was out walking the other day and saw a Wilderness in the driveway of a neighbor. He was nice enough to give me a thorough look see. He said he loves it. I hope the 2023 Foresters will be added to the Subaru website soon so I can get my order placed. The blue in your video is my preference. Thank you!
My current vehicle is a Subaru! Love it and I’m definitely considering another one next.
That 360 around the Forester was fantastic. It's great to hear the handling is pretty good. I drive a 2017 Forester XT and I really like the handling, so it's good to know the wilderness still preserves some of that. The new versions of EyeSight and X-mode are also a big improvement! The lane centering and additional X-modes are a nice touch.
Filipino here! Thanks for the shout out ahahaha
Shoutout
Sweet Dolly/ overboard 360. Great cinematographic move!
I like your contents guys. Especially the enthusiasm that you have during the shots is impressive. It is obvious that you love what you do and always look for ways to improve the quality of your work. In this video though, rotating the camera around the car made me dizzy :) It was too fast and way far away from the interest point (the car and Jacob) It felt like Jacob was running around the car to be able to stay with the camera. Good thing he did not fall and injure himself. I think this was the first time you have tried the technique. Good idea but needs a bit more finesse. I am sure you will find a way to make it much better. Good luck.
I was trippin with that spin cam 😵💫
seemed like it was a drone. agreed it was dizzying
I just picked up my Geyser Blue Forester Wilderness a few days ago. Honestly, at $38K, it feels like a major bargain. The amount of safety and tech including self-driving mode, the upgraded suspension and ground clearance, the fairly significant changes and upgrades to the CVT, the steering responsive LED headlights with LED fog lights, power tailgate, and front camera make this feel very special in the segment. Could it use more power? Sure, but it feels surprisingly adequate and responsive, thanks to the lower gearing and CVT changes. I love this generation of the Nav system as it still has physical buttons for climate control and heated seats. The only thing on the radar for me is upgrading the tires to Falken Wildpeak AT3 in 235 size. Super happy with it.
Get Continental TerrainContact A/T like my Raptor. They’re great on and off road
loving the continuous spin shot on the exterior looks! do that again
Bruh that camera walk around was dank af
3:08 Wilderness ground clearance is 9.2 inches 👉0.5" taller (than regular 8.7" Forester) 🤓
Didn't I say that in the walkaround?
@@TheStraightPipes Yes❗But here, you say 0.2" ❓✌
Ah yes, mistakes
Very much appreciate the walk around. So innovative
The walk around shot was amazing! Did you nail that on the first take?
"Yuri Segway driving school"
Yuri Segway Jesus
I just bought a Touring (US) model. The only thing I wish my car had compared to the Wilderness Edition is the capability to 3000 pounds. Other than that it’s a good weekend adventure, family, daily driver. Triple 👍 shout out to the Philippines!
I have watched a lot of your videos, nice work on the editing on this one and the whole walk around.
10/10 for the walk around sequence
I love the vapour coming out the back end. So cool. And it’s loud too so an attention grabber. Plus I really enjoy the smell of petro mixed with mint pine nut fragrance. It helps me relax.
The Subaru Eyesight driver assist system does not rely on radar (“radar cruise” as Yuri calls it) but from a pair of cameras mounted behind the rearview mirror
Around where I live, Subaru is huge. People take them off road too. Usually not new ones, but this will be old enough one day to take on a trail without worry.
My favorite part is seeing the icicle hang from the bumper like a booger
RAV4 Adventure every day and twice on Sunday, because CVTs blow.
Appreciate the shoutout! Filipino gang!
It always fascinates me how car companies mess up the electronics so often.
They need to use yuri as a consultant. I’ll do it for free
They should stick to what they do best
14:28 look at all the dashboard shadows.
Anodized Copper is the official name of the "Gold". Definitely looks closer to gold than copper IMO.
Guy you said a chrokee and showed a grand Cherokee...but an awesome video as always.
🤷🏼♂️
I like the 360 cam
Subaru Eyesight doesn’t use radar in the front. It uses optics instead of radar. So, “adaptive cruise control” is a more appropriate term.
Yes. “Radar” cruise ;-) my bad