As an obese child being a lineman was one of the only things I ever excelled at athletically. It helped grow my confidence and athleticism. Not saying football was all positive, but it definitely helped shape me into a more healthy confident young man
Offensive lineman are some of the most athletic and intelligent athletes on the field today. Most of them are above 300lbs (136kg) and are very quick with their feet. They read the defense before the snap and make the proper adjustments to block or pull. Most normal humans couldn't keep up with a linemen at full sprint
The NFL has a intelligence test called The Wonderlic. It test the players entering the NFL and linemen are the players who score the highest. They need to be intelligent to read the front seven defensive players. They have to adjust their blocking techniques and communicate with the rest of the linemen without the defensive linemen figuring out what play their running.
I'm not american, but I do believe that american football is a pretty interesting game, it actually has a lot of strategy behind it and planning. I think football gets a bad rep around the world, but... it's starting to be weird when your players look like Gears Of Wars characters rather than human beings.
A Very Kind Guy I mean, that's the same mindset as most Europeans. In England the popular sports are Soccer, Rugby, Cricket, some Basketball and Baseball (though to a much lesser extent). I know Darts and Snooker are also pretty popular. American football doesn't even have major a televised league in England as far as I can tell. You can't complain about Europe making fun of Football and then turn around and justify making fun of Soccer in America since it isn't popular. That's very hypocritical. And I'm American by the way. Played football for 4 years, hoping an adult league shows up in my soccer-dominated region soon.
NS H nose tackles and defensive tackles are getting bigger they're really more of the defensive line. It's the defensive end that is getting more athletic more of the rushing qb type
I know this reply chain really petered out, but I'm still curious to hear football's reputation abroad. Is it just associated with no-neck, Bible-thumping red-staters?
It's a two minute video; I'm pretty sure they put a lot of effort into making them short and concise. 3 feet ~ 1 meter, 1 inch ~ 2 CM, 2 pound ~ 1 Kilo is good enough when it's just for brief info
One of the things I find entertaining about the NFL is that each position is so specialized, you end up with a large variety of athletic body types. You have guys who are essentially sumo wrestlers, guys who are like Olympic sprinters, and guys who are like crossfit pros who have to blend power, speed, and agility. NFL isn't really an aerobic endurance sport, but these guys are explosive athletes who either will run past you, jump over you, or flatten you. Hell, it might be the same guy doing all three. There's really no other sport that has that kind of extreme body types.
dt3sh theyre referring to other comments, not the video. and i agree that everyone should chill out about it. its not a stupid sport if you understand it
dt3sh... he's referring to the other people whining in the comment section... use your common sense if you have any. And also hes not "the" one and hes not the only one whining. poor choice of words there
It is a stupid sport, it exists only because Americans love things that ram into each other, it is like their second most favorite thing to watch after the most boring sport in the world Baseball.
Swishgod98 well, sumo wrestling is Japanese, but at the moment, Hawaiians and impoverished Mongolians are participating in it more then the Japanese. So Americans adopted another country's obesity issue.
Right, they're always out there saving people from poverty, or crime, or fighting fires. Oh, I forgot, they bank millions a year chasing some egg shaped ball around in a full suit of armor. Heroes alright.
Calyx what website are you using right now sir? And you know what country made this website you are using right now sir? You know what country made the internet sir?
They've made a couple of great, really interesting videos. These are their most popular videos, and people enjoy them and subscribe, hoping to see more. What they get is 1-2 videos like these a month, for the price of 3x as many political videos.
Mr Cuddlesworth, thanks. I thought I'd make one video without the mention of liberal/conservative but your comment made it work. like that old statistic of how many times a person would see the word coke/coca-cola in a day. You did your part here: liberals+Vox. You're actually making the discussion sound offensive, which is a plus. Not to democracy, but a plus.
@@BreuckelensFinest that's kind of effed up. I wasn't being called a racist online until Obama started to run for president. Make one criticism and everyone jumps on calling me a racist. Which nature would then associate that liberals will just call anyone a racist for undisclosed reasons. I don't think myself superior to any group and I could find myself agreeing with Obama from time to time but the moment I said he wasn't perfect the hate came out towards me
Jean-Luc Maske-Stockdale Actually most NFL players are not millionaires. Each roster has 56 players. The NFL has one of the most strict salary cap in pro sports so there's only so much of the pie to go around. The Superstars get the lion's share. The average NFL salary is around $2 million but that number is skewed by the handful of players that make $10 million+ on a team. So after all that between taxes and agent fees a player may see 50% of his salary. Don't get me wrong this isn't soppose ti make you feel sorry for NFL players. Most still take home very high 6 figure pay after all deductions. I just wanted to correct the record. Most NFL players are not millionaires. www.businessinsider.com/charts-expose-how-badly-nfl-players-get-paid-2013-9
***** No actually the first comment is incorrect and I laid out why in my original comment. The first comment stated "..they're Millionaires who can afford it" In your post you've changed it to "They make more money in a year than we probably have saved up in 10" My original comment actually agrees with that statement. The issue I was trying to address was if MOST players were MILLIONAIRES.
***** No one is disputing whether ALL are millionaire the dispute is if MOST are millionaires. And unfortunately most of these players don't seem to understand that they are NOT actually millionaires themselves despite what their contract says for the reasons I spelled out earlier.
Back in the day, no one would hire a 300lb player. They were thought to be out of shape. But when one guy got in (the Fridge?) and he proved to be athletic, more and more teams starting hiring their own 300lb lineman. That is the reason you have more of them.
These guys can bench 220 lbs for over 30 reps thats straight muscle, thats why they make the money they get for how good they are at muscling people at over 300 lbs, and yes they can be athletic too, the reason theres more of them now is because being large is essentially the meta of linemen. Don't ever act like these guys just get fat to play football
delorb delorb And the Fridge is confined to a wheelchair now. He's either lost both legs, or is about to, from Diabetes. And weighs well over 400lbs. Sad
Linemen have been losing a lot more weight in retirement lately though since guys like Marshal Yanda and Joe Thomas have lost a lot of weight almost immediately(Yanda has lost 60 pounds already despite only retiring this spring) because it’s so much more difficult than people think to get up to 300 pounds(rn I’m a high school sophomore and I’m still only 217) and since it requires getting a ton of calories, it’s actually getting pretty easy to lose weight too by just having a normal diet
Something the video didn't mention was moving the hashmarks toward the middle of the field. This has caused the wide side of the field to be less wide, and made the game more of a north-south power game. When players had to cover a wider wide side, they couldn't be as bulky.
Oh Europeans, We get it... "It should be hand-egg," "dumbest sport," "Americans so fat," "switch to the metric system"... Do you only focus on our negatives? Smh...
They would have no chance. People not familiar with football think it takes no skill to play a Line position but at a level where everybody is 6+ feet and weighs more than 300 pounds skill is very important.
Shame.....because it promotes youth obesity. There is a such thing is naturally burly as far as height and geographic.....then there is gaining weight for a sport...that only 1% of players make at High levels nfl and some Canadian
1:59 My guess is all men 6’5+ and over 300 lbs are at greater risks for these conditions. Not just NFL linemen. False conclusion? At least now they’ll be rich and unhealthy.
actually I love their political videos too, but lately (with the whole Trump situation) even stating known facts caused polarization and toxicity. so it's always refreshing to watch the non-political ones
The substitution rules were supposedly changed in 1950s, but it wasn't until the 1990s that the dramatic increase in weight statistics happened. Are there other factors worth considering when it comes to linesmen weight gains?
Offensive Lineman are legitimately the most underrated athlete in sports. They are on average the smartest position in football(they have to switch systems, check defensive fronts and dissect plays and fronts within 15 seconds or so every play). Think about this, a
Actually, there's plenty of proof of lineman talking this season about how they wanted to slim up. Vince Wilfork is an easy example to use when he's been in the league for quite some time.
People are just bigger in general. We have an obesity problem in this country, but I don't think that the NFL is the cause. I think it's more of the obesity epidemic that is the cause of the NFL. Whether these guys played football or not, they would still likely be very big and have the same health risks. The NFL is not coming up to anyone that is over 6ft 5in and asking them to bulk up to 350lbs. They just see that people are already this size and they want these people to be a part of their team.
In high school I bulked up to 250 lbs to play offensive line but now that it's over I lost all the extra weight in about a month and am down to 219 by eating right and going to the gym, it's crazy how fast things changed and am on the road to 200
Has nothing to do with rules. It’s all based on improvements in training, and humans in general just getting bigger. This is at all levels of football not just professional. Improving your performance in all aspects is what all athletes try to do, this includes size and strength.
Most of these guys didn't get big to play on the line. They were already big so they were asked to play and excelled because of their combination of size and athleticism. If they didn't play, I'm guessing they would be bigger, more unhealthy, and have more medical problems.
On the other hand, I've got a 6'6", 320 pound, 16 year old kid who is dead in the long term if he isn't motivated to get off the couch and play some sport, any sport. so thank you football - for giving me these extra years with my child.
Roll it back, bring bag substitution rules, it would make the game safer and you can get crazy defensive/offensive athletic freaks who won't die of heart disease.
Very easy to not get caught with steroids now a days. I'd average 100% of the players using steroids and if one didn't they wouldn't be competitive at all. Maybe some cornerbacks don't.
But wouldn't these guys be big, even if they didnt play football? playing that position doesn't make them enourmous, they are enormous and so they play that position
They would be as tall, yes. But not nearly as heavy or strong. Your body adapts to the stress you put on it. If you place stress on your muscles for many years, they get stronger.
When the Spinks brothers dominated the 76 Olympics and then moved up to Heavyweight it was clear that lifting weights paid off. This was the same time that Arnold Schwartzenegger and other bodybuilders became household names, and the same time that Professional Wrestlers began getting massive - all from lifting weights and eating high protein diets. At the same time, Professional Sports began paying more. For example - it wasn't until Magic Johnson that an athlete was paid over $1 million dollars for a season. This made a lot of big guys that would normally go work in factories consider a career in professional sports. There is no need to look at rules changes or anything else to explain the increase in size in professional athletes.
The “blocking below the waist” rule did change the game a lot. However, I would argue that the “eligible receiver” rule is causing even more “specializing” in certain positions. Consequently, the game is becoming less creative because too many rules are causing the sport to change dramatically from what it once was. In all, referees are bing forced by football leagues, which often are forced by the law, to enforce rules that are being made up each year. Therefore, the game is constantly evolving into a different sport from what it once was. It will remain this way forever unless the laws encompassing the game quit changing each year.
this rule is "presumably advatagly for people with roportional to their own long legs and it kittling the the according this playrules "allowed attackarea and that rule is in how far sensefull?
MOOD FM : MF DOOM I've seen rugby they don't look as big as NFL linemen. Even the linemen in my highschool are huge. 15 years old 6'4" 270 lbs. His brother is supposed to be 7 feet tall. He's 13 years old 6'5" 280 lbs so he's going to be a linemen.
Those are just examples btw they aren't on varsity yet. I think we've got a 300 pounder or two on varsity but he's not that tall. Only a bit above 6 foot.
MOOD FM : MF DOOM The NFL gets a lot of viewers in Canada, Mexico, Brazil, South Korea, Germany, the UK, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Australia, and Argentina.
'murica.. home to the country taht first launched a rocket into outer space and country where some of the best innovators of the modern time period, bill gates and steve jobs. for example were born. also the Us has the second highest GDP in the world as well. i admit we have our flaws but... if i'm being honest i've seen quite a few obese people in Europe so...
Football gets a bad rep from people who've never played it on a team. It's actually a really complicated sport. It's not just hitting and catching a ball, it's more. Actually try to take time and look at the science behind it.
PP Hyjynx o I know but I was talking about the reputation from it gets from outsiders. They say things like "Football players are dumb" and "Football kid just hitting each other" but most players are actually really smart and there's a lot of complications when it comes to the sport.
It is not just hitting it is very stategy sport just try memorized full playbook as qb you need now protection recivers routes , hole numbers and what oppisite defence is doing are they in zone, man to man , cover one cover four, trap where point blitz is coming.
Well if you look up Human body weight on wikipedia you will find out that ALL OF THEM do. American males are the heaviest in the world and not by a small margin, and since they are not particularly tall it's clear where all this weight comes from (McDonald's).
sparkss4 That's kinda interesting that they're not the tallest but they are the heaviest. But don't other countries have McDonald's as well? And what about genetics? I'm pretty sure Samoa and tonga have bigger males.
I don't know if this is mentioned, but there's the 1978 rule changes; besides the Mel Blount Rule (defenders can't make contact with WRs five yards past the line of scrimmage), offensive linemen can now extend their arms and use their hands in pass blocking situations.
Mass times acceleration equals force. Football usually comes down to the team that is more forceful. Which is why players have gotten larger and larger while being able to hold on to there speed and acceleration
Despite all the exotic passing offenses in football (i.e. spread, West Coast, etc.), in general, it still comes down to *which team can physically dominate the line of scrimmage* will determine who wins so the arms race for bigger and stronger linemen will continue.
The price of fame, and fortune really. That being said many guys don't manage to make it to the highest level, but again it is part of the grind. These guys know what they are getting themselves into, but you can make more in 4-5 years than most people will make in their lifetimes.
To put things in perspective, Vince Wilfork would have to sprout an additional 14 inches in height to have a BMI considered "overweight", rather than "disgustingly obese".
Offensive Line is the only position in all of official sports where your sole purpose and training is to protect another person. Linemen are both the most athletic and smartest people in the offense. They're not running routes, carrying balls, or throwing them. But they are going against defenders who are just as big as (or even bigger than) them while, before that, reading defensive alignments and behaviors. They're not just overpaid sumo wrestlers.
As someone who's played on the O-line since I was 8 I can tell you personally the size of the other team is much more of a driving factor than low blocks, which still happen occasionally. The real reason you see less of them is much simpler, they are infinitely less effective at keeping the defenders off the ball. The evolution of the game has seen better results from larger linemen because they are more difficult to move, not because of rule changes.
Weight is relative, though. You know what's also super unhealthy? Pro bodybuilders that drop down to 2% body fat the day before a major competition. Or people with no muscles that can't even lift a 20kg box because they sit on their ass all day. Not defending these guys, but weight itself isn't the cause of problems, it's fat, or the complete lack of fat
sepiw losyl so your saying that if your 6'2 and 250 of muscle your unhealthily? I've seen some players in HIGH SCHOOL that are like that, its incredibly healthy
Nicke. All sports are dumb if you think about it. But, sportfans will argue it takes precise movement, planning, and rehearsal for a game to go smoothly and make a team win. This is applied to all sports. People throwing a ball, hitting a ball with a stick, kicking a ball, hitting a disc with a stick and grabbing a ball with a stick. Most sports involve getting whatever object you kick/hit into the other teams goal. If you break a sport down, each one can be called stupid and useless.
LOL @ blaming their size on the NFL. So I guess the lineman would be 120lbs if they weren't playing in the NFL. you know because genetics is meaningless.
Blocking below the waist is still allowed in certain situations. You don’t see it as much, but it definitely happens around the line of scrimmage, especially as blockers try to get to the linebackers.
You act like us lineman eat pizza everyday and we plan on getting big on purpose. Most of us have to be on specialized diets to maintain weight. And being 350+ isn't mandatory, most of those guys are just naturally that big overtime. Us lineman aren't pigs, so make a video elaborating your claim. Thank you.
just because our dicks aren't small enough to warrant using millimeters doesn't mean you have to get shitty lol but seriously any kind of conversion would require billions on billions of dollars and honestly at the moment we got enough problems to deal with
A Very Kind Guy we have to educate 300 some-odd million people, retool I don't even know how many factories, rework the construction industry (wall studs are located 16 inches on center and things of like that) seeing is how a tank cost 6mil I don't know how we're going to do all that for a tank and two thirds. that seems really low.
“Obese” yet are faster, stronger, more endurance, acceleration than any of us. Why would other positions gain weight if that’s not the point of their position.
Linemen are like the A\C they're only noticed when they're not working
my d line coach would always say that
MR BLACK nah A/C is noticed when working too
Exactly
I ain’t never seen something more accurate
Yep. No O-line, no successful QB
As an obese child being a lineman was one of the only things I ever excelled at athletically. It helped grow my confidence and athleticism. Not saying football was all positive, but it definitely helped shape me into a more healthy confident young man
I was thinking its not that otherwise thin people were becoming unhealthy to become linemen, its that larger people got an opportunity to be athletic.
But the rule changes pushed lineman to be even more top-heavy.
Like sumo wrestlers, as the video says.
Amen
@@Zakmmr or really jacked people, eating more to gain excess bulk
Story of my life
Offensive lineman are some of the most athletic and intelligent athletes on the field today. Most of them are above 300lbs (136kg) and are very quick with their feet. They read the defense before the snap and make the proper adjustments to block or pull. Most normal humans couldn't keep up with a linemen at full sprint
MASTER VADER It's embarrassing because a 350 lb linemen is probably faster than me and I'm literally a bit over half that size.
MASTER VADER lol intelligent
The NFL has a intelligence test called The Wonderlic. It test the players entering the NFL and linemen are the players who score the highest. They need to be intelligent to read the front seven defensive players. They have to adjust their blocking techniques and communicate with the rest of the linemen without the defensive linemen figuring out what play their running.
MASTER VADER that takes lots of brain power I'm sure😂
Thegreenbeanfightingmachine It's embarrassing how ignorant you are. And you're laughing about other people's intelligence lol.
I'm not american, but I do believe that american football is a pretty interesting game, it actually has a lot of strategy behind it and planning.
I think football gets a bad rep around the world, but... it's starting to be weird when your players look like Gears Of Wars characters rather than human beings.
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A Very Kind Guy I mean, that's the same mindset as most Europeans. In England the popular sports are Soccer, Rugby, Cricket, some Basketball and Baseball (though to a much lesser extent). I know Darts and Snooker are also pretty popular.
American football doesn't even have major a televised league in England as far as I can tell. You can't complain about Europe making fun of Football and then turn around and justify making fun of Soccer in America since it isn't popular. That's very hypocritical.
And I'm American by the way. Played football for 4 years, hoping an adult league shows up in my soccer-dominated region soon.
NS H nose tackles and defensive tackles are getting bigger they're really more of the defensive line. It's the defensive end that is getting more athletic more of the rushing qb type
Zharif Abdullah you made my day 😂
I know this reply chain really petered out, but I'm still curious to hear football's reputation abroad. Is it just associated with no-neck, Bible-thumping red-staters?
Foot, inches, pounds? Can you please include the Metric units too next time?
i checked, and when he wad talking about their weight in lbs it is equivalent at 130 kg, now in 2010 there are 500+ players more heavy than 130 kg
It's a two minute video; I'm pretty sure they put a lot of effort into making them short and concise.
3 feet ~ 1 meter, 1 inch ~ 2 CM, 2 pound ~ 1 Kilo is good enough when it's just for brief info
It would be nice if they put the metric conversion on screen.
1 inch 2.5cm much better and still easy to calculate ;)
Why would an american channel reporting on an almost exclusively american sport use metric when talking about equally american players?
One of the things I find entertaining about the NFL is that each position is so specialized, you end up with a large variety of athletic body types. You have guys who are essentially sumo wrestlers, guys who are like Olympic sprinters, and guys who are like crossfit pros who have to blend power, speed, and agility. NFL isn't really an aerobic endurance sport, but these guys are explosive athletes who either will run past you, jump over you, or flatten you. Hell, it might be the same guy doing all three. There's really no other sport that has that kind of extreme body types.
Just because they don't have American Football in your country doesn't make the sport stupid. No one needs to hear you whine about it
Reid Ewasko There were no opinions even offered in this video, only facts. Ironically, the one whining is you.
dt3sh theyre referring to other comments, not the video. and i agree that everyone should chill out about it. its not a stupid sport if you understand it
dt3sh... he's referring to the other people whining in the comment section... use your common sense if you have any. And also hes not "the" one and hes not the only one whining. poor choice of words there
It is a stupid sport, it exists only because Americans love things that ram into each other, it is like their second most favorite thing to watch after the most boring sport in the world Baseball.
theghostmachine so if it's so bad why'd do you guys have rugby? which is almost the same thing :P
Smh. Only an American sport would have an obesity problem
Swishgod98 well, sumo wrestling is Japanese, but at the moment, Hawaiians and impoverished Mongolians are participating in it more then the Japanese. So Americans adopted another country's obesity issue.
No disrespect to y'all. In fact, American football is one of my favorite sports to watch. I Wish it was more talked about here in the UK.
Swishgod98
😂🚬
Swishgod98 "y'all" We're not all southern Dixies btw haha
Swishgod98 I can guarantee you everyone of them are more athletic and healthier than you
The NFL linemen.... the real heroes of America
Right, they're always out there saving people from poverty, or crime, or fighting fires.
Oh, I forgot, they bank millions a year chasing some egg shaped ball around in a full suit of armor. Heroes alright.
lol get a real job commie
Calyx When you cant take a joke...
Calyx what website are you using right now sir? And you know what country made this website you are using right now sir? You know what country made the internet sir?
Its actually padding not suits of armor :). theyre my heroessssssssss
Seahawks should have ran.
The ball
Aaron Moore lol Malcolm butler lmao
That's why we started swapping out the Gatorade with Starbucks, now they never stop running. And that's how we wont he super bowl
*run
Lol
Could you please put units in metric as well in all of your videos?
no. USA USA USA!!
USA USA USA!!
Most linemen range between 130 and 160 kg, while the lightest players are around 80 kg. Quarterbacks range anywhere from 85 to 100 kg
litojonny You morons make the US look bad, you must be a Trump supporter🤦🏾♂️
No.
waiting for trump supporters to think this is anti-trump somehow.
still waiting
Trump is chubby and this is anti chubby. DOWN WITH DIRTY LIBERAL POOPHEADS!
It doesn't have A L T E R N A T I V E F A C T S !
I don't like this person so I will make a Hitler comparison, said every American citizen that lost an election
Vox is fake news
Finally, a non political, interesting video. Very nice.
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vox needs to do more of these
lets build a wall around mcdonalds and make the obese pay for it!
Vox is an established political channel. Your in the wrong place.
They've made a couple of great, really interesting videos. These are their most popular videos, and people enjoy them and subscribe, hoping to see more. What they get is 1-2 videos like these a month, for the price of 3x as many political videos.
You'd expect people outside the US to have better football jokes than "Handegg XDD" but nope
理想の世界 That's why we play football and they play soccer
Cedric Schulz They know our sport is better and far more entertaining
John Harrison only in the u.s lol and by the looks of it REAL Football is taking over the u.s little by little
A Very Kind Guy bro it is
A Very Kind Guy I'm not lol search it up
Damn. Fast, informative and to the point
Mr Cuddlesworth, thanks. I thought I'd make one video without the mention of liberal/conservative but your comment made it work.
like that old statistic of how many times a person would see the word coke/coca-cola in a day.
You did your part here: liberals+Vox.
You're actually making the discussion sound offensive, which is a plus. Not to democracy, but a plus.
+Mr Cuddlesworth I've noticed that people that call other people "liberal" are typically racists! Your thumbnail is fitting & supports my response.
Just how I like it.
Everything RUclips was meant for
@@BreuckelensFinest that's kind of effed up. I wasn't being called a racist online until Obama started to run for president. Make one criticism and everyone jumps on calling me a racist. Which nature would then associate that liberals will just call anyone a racist for undisclosed reasons. I don't think myself superior to any group and I could find myself agreeing with Obama from time to time but the moment I said he wasn't perfect the hate came out towards me
6'4 178lbs seems kinda light but this whole video would confuse anyone who doesn't follow American Football so yea
it is light, im only 6'1 and weigh 190 lbs and im 15. that man is fully grown
@@ceoofaesthetics5281 6'5 260 lbs at 15.
Metric please
@@oscarosullivan4513
6’4 is roughly 193 cm
178lb is roughly 80kg
They are far too heavy
Funny to watch old college games when most of the players were normal size guys you might meet on the street.
WRs are just Athletic dudes
But yeah linebackers and linemen are huge
Being huge comes at a price... but they're Millionaires who can afford it.
Jean-Luc Maske-Stockdale Actually most NFL players are not millionaires. Each roster has 56 players. The NFL has one of the most strict salary cap in pro sports so there's only so much of the pie to go around. The Superstars get the lion's share. The average NFL salary is around $2 million but that number is skewed by the handful of players that make $10 million+ on a team.
So after all that between taxes and agent fees a player may see 50% of his salary.
Don't get me wrong this isn't soppose ti make you feel sorry for NFL players. Most still take home very high 6 figure pay after all deductions. I just wanted to correct the record. Most NFL players are not millionaires.
www.businessinsider.com/charts-expose-how-badly-nfl-players-get-paid-2013-9
***** No actually the first comment is incorrect and I laid out why in my original comment.
The first comment stated "..they're Millionaires who can afford it"
In your post you've changed it to "They make more money in a year than we probably have saved up in 10" My original comment actually agrees with that statement.
The issue I was trying to address was if MOST players were MILLIONAIRES.
***** No one is disputing whether ALL are millionaire the dispute is if MOST are millionaires. And unfortunately most of these players don't seem to understand that they are NOT actually millionaires themselves despite what their contract says for the reasons I spelled out earlier.
you don't need to be a millionaire to afford eating at mcdonalds.
How much is a decade of healthy life worth?
99% of comments saying "incoming foreigners"
1% of comments from actual foreigners complaining
No, This is Patrick I haven’t seen either of these comment that much,but I have seen more of the first option.
Back in the day, no one would hire a 300lb player. They were thought to be out of shape. But when one guy got in (the Fridge?) and he proved to be athletic, more and more teams starting hiring their own 300lb lineman. That is the reason you have more of them.
These guys can bench 220 lbs for over 30 reps thats straight muscle, thats why they make the money they get for how good they are at muscling people at over 300 lbs, and yes they can be athletic too, the reason theres more of them now is because being large is essentially the meta of linemen. Don't ever act like these guys just get fat to play football
delorb delorb And the Fridge is confined to a wheelchair now. He's either lost both legs, or is about to, from Diabetes. And weighs well over 400lbs. Sad
William "da fridge" Perry.
Retired athletes don’t learn how to adapt to a reduced metabolism after retirement. Very insightful
I thought i was a big dude. Im a shrimp next to these guys
Purple Jelly I’m 14 and I’m 6’5” and 287 pounds 😂
Ok...
Im 14 6.3 225
I am 34 and 5'7"
I'm 30 6'0 225 maybe 235 lbs 🤔👀
Hard to find a less-than-3-minutes video as clear, cool and scientifically informative. Nice work.
Thanks for getting me in the Super Bowl spirit... .. Vox
John Berry that ass
Linemen have been losing a lot more weight in retirement lately though since guys like Marshal Yanda and Joe Thomas have lost a lot of weight almost immediately(Yanda has lost 60 pounds already despite only retiring this spring) because it’s so much more difficult than people think to get up to 300 pounds(rn I’m a high school sophomore and I’m still only 217) and since it requires getting a ton of calories, it’s actually getting pretty easy to lose weight too by just having a normal diet
Something the video didn't mention was moving the hashmarks toward the middle of the field. This has caused the wide side of the field to be less wide, and made the game more of a north-south power game. When players had to cover a wider wide side, they couldn't be as bulky.
Oh Europeans, We get it... "It should be hand-egg," "dumbest sport," "Americans so fat," "switch to the metric system"... Do you only focus on our negatives? Smh...
Can't really blame em, less and less positives to focus on every year
what's really positive about America?
our guaranteed freedom of speech. seriously, Europe is supposed to be evolved but ideas aren't protected.
You are telling me i don't have freedom of speech in Norway, or for that matter Europe?
is it constitutionally protected? if not, then no.
One of the modern trends for linemen is to seriously drop weight after retirement. Mike Golic is a good example.
They should get some sumos that would be fun
thunder2.0 the linemen basically already are
thunder2.0
They aren't athletic enough to play football
thunder2.0 if sumos can be in the WWF/E, then they can be in the NFL ;)
They would have no chance. People not familiar with football think it takes no skill to play a Line position but at a level where everybody is 6+ feet and weighs more than 300 pounds skill is very important.
i did say fun not practical
offensive line is much harder than defence
defence need to break a block and run
this is american football not just football
Saif Al Din Ramy this is an American news company, and Americans just call it football
+Stevie Tyree "news" lol!
It doesn't even say football in the title it just says NFL so what point are you trying to make
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kendel423 National Footbal League. NFL.
It's crazy to see how football has evolved. Even high school teams are frickin huge now.
Shame.....because it promotes youth obesity. There is a such thing is naturally burly as far as height and geographic.....then there is gaining weight for a sport...that only 1% of players make at High levels nfl and some Canadian
1:59 My guess is all men 6’5+ and over 300 lbs are at greater risks for these conditions. Not just NFL linemen. False conclusion?
At least now they’ll be rich and unhealthy.
Hey guys breaking news if your bigger you are at higher risk of heart disease vox exclusive
Falcons blew a 28-3 lead
Wahlberg left
Gordan Hayward got his ass injured
Texas a and m blew a 45 to 15 lead against UCLA
I met an ex-NFL O-lineman who played in the 1960’s for the Saints. Dude was old but there’s noway was he broke 6’ 220 at his biggest.
As expected, the comments section is Americans vs. Nonmoonlanders.
Ok boomer
Technically yes
We were on the moon and its weightless there. In space no one can here you blubbering
I love the non-political Vox, great video guys
Vox has some of the best political videos on the web. It's what they are good at and they should keep doing it.
Patrick Staight ...
no all their political videos are biased liberal propaganda
actually I love their political videos too, but lately (with the whole Trump situation) even stating known facts caused polarization and toxicity. so it's always refreshing to watch the non-political ones
This is actually political since it disparages the rule change.
Eddie lacy is why the HB weight went up jk
Shmeed Hahahaha good one bruh
Lol
Well it's probably true 😂😂
Nah. Just Christian Okoye
it shouldn't be called football it should be called hand-egg
Jessica Hardy I concur
Jessica Hardy the ball is 1 foot long smh
egg chasing w/armour.
I'd expect you foreigners would come up with a better joke by now but nope "Handegg XDD"
Trump has just recently signed an executive order you see preventing such things, that's why.
I think in many sports this is the case. From track sprinting to contact sports...athletes are generally much bigger today than their predecessors
But are they leaner yes. Tadgh Furlong is a great example of large but muscular.
The substitution rules were supposedly changed in 1950s, but it wasn't until the 1990s that the dramatic increase in weight statistics happened. Are there other factors worth considering when it comes to linesmen weight gains?
Duh? Almost all NFL Offensive linemen lose the weight when they retire from football...One example is Chris Snee
they did it by this
article 5 secion II
"linemen must be gigantic"
Big Brain
Offensive Lineman are legitimately the most underrated athlete in sports. They are on average the smartest position in football(they have to switch systems, check defensive fronts and dissect plays and fronts within 15 seconds or so every play). Think about this, a
Actually, there's plenty of proof of lineman talking this season about how they wanted to slim up. Vince Wilfork is an easy example to use when he's been in the league for quite some time.
20 years from now I predict a class action lawsuit against the NFL saying they are responsible for their heart attacks and diabetes.
My grandpa played college football in the thirties, he was an o-lineman at 5 foot 8 lol
In what year?
@@randomuser975 in the thirties bruh read the comment
So he's like, a hundred years old?
People are just bigger in general. We have an obesity problem in this country, but I don't think that the NFL is the cause. I think it's more of the obesity epidemic that is the cause of the NFL. Whether these guys played football or not, they would still likely be very big and have the same health risks. The NFL is not coming up to anyone that is over 6ft 5in and asking them to bulk up to 350lbs. They just see that people are already this size and they want these people to be a part of their team.
In high school I bulked up to 250 lbs to play offensive line but now that it's over I lost all the extra weight in about a month and am down to 219 by eating right and going to the gym, it's crazy how fast things changed and am on the road to 200
Has nothing to do with rules. It’s all based on improvements in training, and humans in general just getting bigger. This is at all levels of football not just professional. Improving your performance in all aspects is what all athletes try to do, this includes size and strength.
Most of these guys didn't get big to play on the line. They were already big so they were asked to play and excelled because of their combination of size and athleticism. If they didn't play, I'm guessing they would be bigger, more unhealthy, and have more medical problems.
I read this comment from 9 months ago and agreed with it...then realized I wrote it 🤣
All this... and linemen still get no love😔
Athletes are bigger, stronger and faster. Not only that but we know how to properly train these guys
On the other hand, I've got a 6'6", 320 pound, 16 year old kid who is dead in the long term if he isn't motivated to get off the couch and play some sport, any sport. so thank you football - for giving me these extra years with my child.
Roll it back, bring bag substitution rules, it would make the game safer and you can get crazy defensive/offensive athletic freaks who won't die of heart disease.
God needs to nerf the tank meta. Too OP.
lmao
pretty surprised there was no mention of steroids tbh
its illegal
Sgt.Fury they still use them
joe botsch Their isn't alot of cases of NFL players using steroids I hope you know that.
Are you serious? That's pretty surprising
Very easy to not get caught with steroids now a days. I'd average 100% of the players using steroids and if one didn't they wouldn't be competitive at all. Maybe some cornerbacks don't.
But wouldn't these guys be big, even if they didnt play football? playing that position doesn't make them enourmous, they are enormous and so they play that position
Playing football is what gives them the muscle
They're usually already big because most NFL linemen are genetic freaks
They would be as tall, yes. But not nearly as heavy or strong.
Your body adapts to the stress you put on it. If you place stress on your muscles for many years, they get stronger.
When the Spinks brothers dominated the 76 Olympics and then moved up to Heavyweight it was clear that lifting weights paid off. This was the same time that Arnold Schwartzenegger and other bodybuilders became household names, and the same time that Professional Wrestlers began getting massive - all from lifting weights and eating high protein diets. At the same time, Professional Sports began paying more. For example - it wasn't until Magic Johnson that an athlete was paid over $1 million dollars for a season. This made a lot of big guys that would normally go work in factories consider a career in professional sports. There is no need to look at rules changes or anything else to explain the increase in size in professional athletes.
The “blocking below the waist” rule did change the game a lot. However, I would argue that the “eligible receiver” rule is causing even more “specializing” in certain positions. Consequently, the game is becoming less creative because too many rules are causing the sport to change dramatically from what it once was. In all, referees are bing forced by football leagues, which often are forced by the law, to enforce rules that are being made up each year. Therefore, the game is constantly evolving into a different sport from what it once was. It will remain this way forever unless the laws encompassing the game quit changing each year.
this rule is "presumably advatagly for people with roportional to their own long legs and it kittling the the according this playrules "allowed attackarea and that rule is in how far sensefull?
Similar thing happened in rugby with props
MOOD FM : MF DOOM I've seen rugby they don't look as big as NFL linemen. Even the linemen in my highschool are huge. 15 years old 6'4" 270 lbs. His brother is supposed to be 7 feet tall. He's 13 years old 6'5" 280 lbs so he's going to be a linemen.
Those are just examples btw they aren't on varsity yet. I think we've got a 300 pounder or two on varsity but he's not that tall. Only a bit above 6 foot.
Yeah but rugby players are athletic and fit , not fat like some these american football players
Your mad because football is better.
MOOD FM : MF DOOM The NFL gets a lot of viewers in Canada, Mexico, Brazil, South Korea, Germany, the UK, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Australia, and Argentina.
'murica, gaining weight since 1970.
'murica.. home to the country taht first launched a rocket into outer space and country where some of the best innovators of the modern time period, bill gates and steve jobs. for example were born. also the Us has the second highest GDP in the world as well. i admit we have our flaws but... if i'm being honest i've seen quite a few obese people in Europe so...
Safwat Khan Steve jobs was a Syrian immigrant and 60 percent of Silicon Valley is foreign born, LOL.
Joe Ski Steve jobs himself wasn't a Syrian immigrant. I sincerely hope you realize that he was born in America.
Bet any of those linemen could outrun you too
Joe Ski so they are American are they not Even if eh Wasnt born here he still use american stuff to make what we have today
I'm impressed that Vox didn't find some way to weasel in something about toxic masculinity or patriarchal oppression
I spent more of my time converting the weight and height to metric system than listening to the narration. Going to rewatch it now
Maybe the NFL should institute a weight limit based on your height. That way players won't have to choose between health and performance.
Did vox just acknowledge that being fat I'm actually unhealthy? Good job, now tell that to fat women.
Football gets a bad rep from people who've never played it on a team. It's actually a really complicated sport. It's not just hitting and catching a ball, it's more. Actually try to take time and look at the science behind it.
it's still needlessly dangerous, just compare the concussion severity and frequency to a similar sport in rugby
PP Hyjynx o I know but I was talking about the reputation from it gets from outsiders. They say things like "Football players are dumb" and "Football kid just hitting each other" but most players are actually really smart and there's a lot of complications when it comes to the sport.
It is not just hitting it is very stategy sport just try memorized full playbook as qb you need now protection recivers routes , hole numbers and what oppisite defence is doing are they in zone, man to man , cover one cover four, trap where point blitz is coming.
PP Hyjynx You could say the same about boxing or MMA. Tough sports cause injury. Stick to wrestle ball it’s safer.
Tell me how do you feel about European football?
The *average* male is 195lbs!? Man, Americans are huge.
sparkss4
That's pretty small I still don't know how countries have males under that weight
Well if you look up Human body weight on wikipedia you will find out that ALL OF THEM do. American males are the heaviest in the world and not by a small margin, and since they are not particularly tall it's clear where all this weight comes from (McDonald's).
sparkss4
That's kinda interesting that they're not the tallest but they are the heaviest. But don't other countries have McDonald's as well? And what about genetics? I'm pretty sure Samoa and tonga have bigger males.
average height is around 6ft tall
typical eurocuck, why are you all completely retarded?
I don't know if this is mentioned, but there's the 1978 rule changes; besides the Mel Blount Rule (defenders can't make contact with WRs five yards past the line of scrimmage), offensive linemen can now extend their arms and use their hands in pass blocking situations.
Mass times acceleration equals force. Football usually comes down to the team that is more forceful. Which is why players have gotten larger and larger while being able to hold on to there speed and acceleration
lol 6'4 and 178 lbs is not big no matter what era. A 6'4 guy should be 220 lbs and up
agreed
john doe lol 6 4 and 178 is like anorexic I'm 6 1 and 205
Harry when I was 15 I was 5'10 and 175 and that was skinny on me, imagine 6'4
Depends on your muscle to fat ratio. Jon sky walker is like 210 and 6'4 and is def not skinny
He had barley any muscle mass, that's why
big guys are good at stopping other big guys and gig guys are unhealthy. GOT IT. Thanks vox.
Only watched cause my boy Alan Branch is in the thumbnail
Despite all the exotic passing offenses in football (i.e. spread, West Coast, etc.), in general, it still comes down to *which team can physically dominate the line of scrimmage* will determine who wins so the arms race for bigger and stronger linemen will continue.
The price of fame, and fortune really. That being said many guys don't manage to make it to the highest level, but again it is part of the grind. These guys know what they are getting themselves into, but you can make more in 4-5 years than most people will make in their lifetimes.
NFL lineman can get heart disease from being “obese” but Lizzo is beautiful and healthy. Got it
I'm 14, 6"1, 236 pounds I'm on my way
David Heaser 300 lbs is about 135 kg
David Heaser what the heck I'm 13 5'11 and only 145😂
David Heaser Your fat bro
Thank you I am fat but I can bench 275 dead lift 225 run a 8.34 mile and a 5.1 sec 40 meter dash.
David Heaser my brother is 15 at 6'3
One of the sad truths about football. Still my favorite sport though
CTE too has probably gotten worse as their momentum into hits has increased with their size.
To put things in perspective, Vince Wilfork would have to sprout an additional 14 inches in height to have a BMI considered "overweight", rather than "disgustingly obese".
these guys would be big and heavy no matter what, they are just millionaires now
rtnoobify poor americans are more likely to be obese. your comment is kinda dumb.
really? look at pictures from nick Hardwick when he was in the NFL he was like 270-280 now he is down in the 180-190s and pure muscle
so basically the 80's is when anabolic steroids were used lol
The Vegan Mojo the vegan lmao!
Didn't know steroids increased height
me jr height only increased slightly by like 3 inches unlike weight which increased by half fold
illuminati 3 inches still a good amount.
Nah hgh
metric system would be nice, so the rest of the world would know what you're talking about
Merthalophor shut up
I have no problem converting metric to SAE units. Have you considered the possibility that you're simply a dumbass?
Offensive Line is the only position in all of official sports where your sole purpose and training is to protect another person.
Linemen are both the most athletic and smartest people in the offense. They're not running routes, carrying balls, or throwing them. But they are going against defenders who are just as big as (or even bigger than) them while, before that, reading defensive alignments and behaviors.
They're not just overpaid sumo wrestlers.
As someone who's played on the O-line since I was 8 I can tell you personally the size of the other team is much more of a driving factor than low blocks, which still happen occasionally. The real reason you see less of them is much simpler, they are infinitely less effective at keeping the defenders off the ball. The evolution of the game has seen better results from larger linemen because they are more difficult to move, not because of rule changes.
I could not care less already, then you brought statistics into it. I guess I was wrong.
Linemen are sumo wrestlers? If you don't know the role of a lineman don't make a video about them.
I don't think it' matters how athletic you are, if you're that heavy, it's unhealthy
Weight is relative, though.
You know what's also super unhealthy? Pro bodybuilders that drop down to 2% body fat the day before a major competition. Or people with no muscles that can't even lift a 20kg box because they sit on their ass all day.
Not defending these guys, but weight itself isn't the cause of problems, it's fat, or the complete lack of fat
Think about what you just said...
sepiw losyl so your saying that if your 6'2 and 250 of muscle your unhealthily? I've seen some players in HIGH SCHOOL that are like that, its incredibly healthy
Muscle also weighs more than fat, so these men most likely weigh so much because of the immense amount of muscle they have from the training
bring back two-way players and limited substitutions, then everyone will have to be a well-rounded athlete again.
Linemen have to be athletic as well. Especially quick for their size.
Oh I'm crying for the millionaire s
Worlds dumbest sport
Nicke. All sports are dumb if you think about it. But, sportfans will argue it takes precise movement, planning, and rehearsal for a game to go smoothly and make a team win. This is applied to all sports. People throwing a ball, hitting a ball with a stick, kicking a ball, hitting a disc with a stick and grabbing a ball with a stick. Most sports involve getting whatever object you kick/hit into the other teams goal. If you break a sport down, each one can be called stupid and useless.
Nicke. Tbh millionaires giving each other brain damage is quite fun to watch
I will easily and happily demolish you in a debate over the strategy aspect compared to any other sport.
toast toaster you've been watching Bill Maher. Good
Jim Heeren yes :D
LOL @ blaming their size on the NFL. So I guess the lineman would be 120lbs if they weren't playing in the NFL. you know because genetics is meaningless.
The video says that the change in rules (specially limited sustitution)
Blocking below the waist is still allowed in certain situations. You don’t see it as much, but it definitely happens around the line of scrimmage, especially as blockers try to get to the linebackers.
Really wish Vox put more effort into these videos. It feels like the scratch the surface of the topics with a feather and then end the video.
You act like us lineman eat pizza everyday and we plan on getting big on purpose. Most of us have to be on specialized diets to maintain weight. And being 350+ isn't mandatory, most of those guys are just naturally that big overtime. Us lineman aren't pigs, so make a video elaborating your claim. Thank you.
i don't think you watched the video
Yea it seems like you watched the first minute and got all mad
Yo I'm an offensive and defensive lineman and I'm 5'9 190lbs
Aidan Peterson your probably on a shitty varsity high school team or a freshman.
Aidan Peterson ur small
Wanna hear a joke?
The imperial system!
Lazarus Ku why
just because our dicks aren't small enough to warrant using millimeters doesn't mean you have to get shitty lol
but seriously any kind of conversion would require billions on billions of dollars and honestly at the moment we got enough problems to deal with
Dae fbg I think it's only 10 million and we still aren't doing it.
A Very Kind Guy we have to educate 300 some-odd million people, retool I don't even know how many factories, rework the construction industry (wall studs are located 16 inches on center and things of like that) seeing is how a tank cost 6mil I don't know how we're going to do all that for a tank and two thirds. that seems really low.
Dae fbg That's what a saw, idk look it up I guess
Is Vox video political?
Yes -- Likely worthless
No -- Likely excellent
Respect your lineman
“Obese” yet are faster, stronger, more endurance, acceleration than any of us. Why would other positions gain weight if that’s not the point of their position.