well just look the first generation Audi TT, its basicly what you say, but you cant design a car thats that round, because its dangerous at high speed, thats why the first gen TT first had much accidents at high speed, and because of this they had to put a spoiler at the back to hold the car in place. So you see they already tried that, but it is too dangerous
Well, this was common sense for at least two hundred years, if not more. I was personally interested to know what took them this long to make cars curvy, not the science behind it.
Curvy design is just a marketing gimmick. Curves are only pleasing to human eyes not physics. The shortest path between 2 points is a straight line not a curve. Physics is actually on the side of boxy designs. Look at airplane design such as the F22 or the F117. It has few curves and a lot of straight lines. The most aerodynamic design for a car would be diamond shaped with sharp angles to cut through the air.
Novusod the F22 still has curves, those planes use straight lines for stealth not fuel efficiency. while a straight line is usually a shorter path than a curved one it creates turbulence and drag on the vehicle
Dias Amreé ::raises hand:: Me too. It's what I grew up with. So what if your car is shaped like a brick? It will use up more of the parking space so it won't be wasted.
The difference between the curvy cars from the 40s and those of today: Even the curvy cars from those days looked really nice. Modern cars look like someone wrote a random shape generator and fed that into a manufacturing line.
Cars in the 40's were designed to exude elegance. Today, while there's certainly some elegance to a lot of models, everybody is also trying to make them look powerful or even downright aggressive at the same time.
It's a change in design philosophy. Along with the change from boxy to round, the aesthetic of car design changed from one of metallic shapes to plastic free-flow forms. Today's cars have a *plasticity* about them reflected both in construction and style.
Umm, totally a matter of opinion I know, but the 3dr Sierra Cosworth, UR Sport Quattro, 190e Cosworth, every BMW, 964 911,all three gens of RX7, R34 GTR, MK4 Supra, Mclaren F1, Ferrari 288 GTO and F40 etc etc. Many of the best looking cars of all time come from the 80's and 90's, at least for the hard core gear heads. The 80's was the golden era of win on Sunday sell on Monday cars, and the European offerings from that decade are easily their most iconic and widely loved, likewise with the 90s and Japanese cars. Really it is just non-enthusiast and american cars from the 80's and 90's that were ugly, for the enthusiasts those were possibly the two greatest decades to date (possibly trumped by the 60's and 20-teens).
Actually during WWII the car models stayed fairly the same and not a lot of change on the home front. After the war is when cars dramatically changed and took off.
CockatooDude I'm getting sick and tried of these jellybean designs....cars today have no sole and there dull....lets hope cars go back to boxy shapes in the 2020s.
rye shelton Well I think curved shapes can have character, look at some old Alfas for example, or the Miura, or even the newer McLarens. What it really comes down to, is that exciting cars look exciting, and boring cars look boring.
+rye shelton With the climate change going on? Nobody practical is going to want cars that guzzle more gas that both they and the planet have to pay for.
***** Hate to break it to you, but container ships and planes use way more gas than cars do. Not saying I am against electric cars or anything, just stating facts.
Then there must be something wrong with this "everyone" person. If this ad doesn't make you want to buy a TAURUS!, I'm not sure you've got an entirely human brain.
Ive worked with cad in the automotive industry, and i think cad technology played a bigger role than represented in the video. Before cad, geometrical complexity was much more expensive in terms of human work. Now cad assists you in designing, creating the tooling on tools such as cnc, and even measuring very quickly the shape of manufactured products. All of this allows a lot more freedom in terms of design
Dmitri Valdez Do you know me? I like looking at the world around me and I'm interested in mechanics and architecture. It would take an idiot not to see the difference over time
Jim Rr+ right? l love it when my ECU fails and then my car locks up until the dealer can replace the ECU and re register it with the rest of the system.
+Daan Willemsen LMAO no! Euro cars (esp German ones) are like Swiss watches: the bee's knees when everything was mechanical...but greatly outclassed by the Asians once electronics got involved. In the USA, euro cars are (almost without exception) leased, sold with "comprehensive maintenance included," and returned at a fraction of the purchase price. Reason being, no sane person wants to repair one on their own nickel! Witness used BMW 7-series sold for less than a comparable Honda Accord. Great V-12 fun (until the first thing breaks, at which point repairs exceed the car's value.)
bcubed72 Compairing the US and EU car markets is a blit difficult. EU manufractures like Mercedes and Volkswagen sell different cars on the US market than on the EU market. Some EU manufractures (like Citroen, Skoda, Opel/Vauxhall and Seat) don't even sell cars in the US. And the only US manufracter that realy sells cars on a large scale in the EU is Ford, and Ford Europe sells different cars like the Ka and the Fiesta.
It also had to do with manufacturing and designing processes. Back in the 30/40's, they handmade the molds for the stamped steel, and alot of high end cars had panels hammered by hand to their final form. Then in the late 70's, computers started being used for the designing of cars but due how limited they were, designs were limited to straight lines and edges. That is why the 80's are the pinnacle of boxy. It has little to do with fuel prices since in the 50's fuel was cheaper then the 80's and 50's cars are way rounder, even in europe where economy matters.
Curvy cars are more aerodynamic, but beyond a gentle rounding of the edges and corners, they also tend to be less space efficient, especially when it comes to cargo room. So many of the more utilitarian cars of Europe were actually getting boxier, sometimes boxy in the extreme, during the 1970s (eg. the curvy VW Beetle and Type 3 fastback gave way for the boxy Rabbit and Dasher) and the downsized U.S. cars of the mid-to-late 1970s (eg. Cadillac Seville, 1977 Chevrolet Impala, 1979 Ford LTD) imitated the boxiness of their European and Japanese counterparts. The 1980s, with people getting tired of boxy styling, improvements in manufacturing technology that made flush windows and smooth headlights cost effective and speed limits rising again, was an ideal time for a car like the Ford Taurus. Now cars are about as rounded as ever, but many trucks, even with smoothed edges, seem to emphasize the boxy nature of their cargo-friendly shapes. Fashion will probably continue to push styling in shifting directions, but aerodynamics will play a big role in shaping cars in the future, even those that emphasize cargo capacity.
Is it me, or did almost all cars from the 70's look cool? Edit: What I mean by that is that today there is a huge price gap between cool looking cars and junk cars. But, in the 70's, a lot of the cheaper cars still looked interesting.
I agree, I myself can not stand the design of vehicles today, it's all the same, nothing new is brought to the table with the common every-day mans car.
Yeah, if you go to car shows the best looking roadsters are from the '70s up to very early '80s. There was a good combination of angular and aerodynamic. And I think there was a greater respect for proportion.
No, it just wasn't applied to this application because until that point there wasn't a pressure or need to find an alternative because of fuel prices. No need to be a sarcastic ass hole
I certainly dislike such cars as Golf. I wanted a sedan, so I bought a VW Jetta which is like a Golf, but with a long rear instead. It looks beautiful. By the way I drove Golf GTI in driving school.
I think that's because we see modern cars all the time in our daily life, so when we see classic cars, they seem fascinating to us. In the 1980s, people probably looked back on cars from the 1950s the same way that we look back on cars from the 1980s.
Having started driving in the mid 70's, I have to say that most cars today look pretty well all alike. Hardly anything to distinguish the the various models and brands. So from a stylish perspective, boxy cars far surpass today's cars.
Zero Cool Ha! Yeah, you remember how they used to do. I feel like automakers retreated a little from the spherico-bubbly shape after the 90s, and we're at a halfway point now. Intermediate between boxes and bubbles
Boxy cars have one big advantage-you can actually sit in the back seat in comfort! Those jellybean cars have rear seats usable only by children and amputees.
That has more to do with unibody design than exterior shape. One of the biggest reasons cars are so safe even though they're technically smaller than the boxy land boats of old is because you have a unibody safety cell that encapsulates everything with a tough steel chassis.
Umm, no, Mopars were unibody, since the 60's. Unibody is defined as NOT the usual body on frame construction. No frame on a 60's Mopar, that's why they are so difficult to restore. Rust is hiding everywhere. And that's also why Mopars were so lightweight, with killer engines, that made Mopars the stoplight winners. You had to spend big bucks modifiying Chevy and Ford engines, with body on frame construction, to compete with the mopars. Mopars were cheap, and un-beatable, as used cars. When you slammed the doors, or the trunk on a mopar, it sounded like the it would rattle forever. Pieces of tin welded together. But, beautiful and fast.
Another major component to the radical shift in styling we see in the early 90s is the DOT approving the use of composite headlamps, allowing for headlamp and front end designs that simply would not have been possible with square, rectangular, or circular sealed beam lamps. Until then, the only options was complicated retractable headlamps, but with composite headlamps using specially shaped lenses, they could make any almost shape to fit designers' visions.
Yes, because there was an aerodynamic craze back then too. The Chrysler Airflow of 1934 was one of the first to feature a streamlined, Art Deco design, and this eventually became very popular. Tatra in Europe was also doing very streamlined cars from the 1930's on. VW Beetles and Porsches also shared this design. Eventually, streamlined design fell out of fashion, and by the 1960's, boxy designs were back in vogue.
When the economy started to recover in the mid 1930s manufacturers started to make streamlined cars that could catch the public's eyes who had been stuck with boxy and jalopy style cars that been produced since the Model T.
It's called following the trend. Every car manufacturer has their own distinct style or quirks and other brands tend to copy that. For instance, look at how quickly headlight shapes have changed in the last 10 years, they're getting more and more sleek profiled. Another example, front bumpers are becoming more aggressive stylistically. Every car company wants to throw some carbon fibre accents on their vehicles now, even if the car in question is a family sedan. We're currently seeing an ongoing trend happening right now with the newer 4x4's, they're becoming wider and have a wider stance.
Today's so called American vehicles are for the most part hideous looking. Imo gm is the absolute worst then, dodge (not really American at all) and ford being the best looking out of the big three.
There is so much wrong with this video I don't even know where to begin. The most glaring example was the fact that all the European examples given were sports cars... even though they were talking about saving fuel? Yeah I'm sure people were buying porches to save money on fuel.
That was oversimplifying. European family cars have always tended to be curvy to save on fuel, right back to the VW Bettle. Fuel is also a HUGE part of the running costs of a car in Europe. (I spend about £2K on my car each year and fuel is at least 70% of that). So even luxury cars like BMW and Audi have needed as high fuel mileage as possible. Porsche had curvy designs to improve road holding and acceleration, but many of Porsche's innovations got handed down to the cheaper manufacturers, like disc brakes and ABS.
Yup, porsche has been ahead of its time since inception. Even the first to manufacture an electric car way way way before Tesla. The problem was it wasnt cost effective or trendy. And electricity in Europe was not as readily accessible. Theres a reason Porsche is regarded as one of the best cars in the world
The Sierra was popular eventually, but it took about 3-4 years before sales really started to take off. In 1982, variations of it's predecessor, the Cortina, had been sold for the last 20 years and was one of the UK's best selling cars. And the Cortina was VERY boxy. That's why the Vauxhall Cavalier Mk2 did so well during the early 1980s, because people didn't want the Sierra. Initial sales of the Sierra was so bad that Ford kept the old boxy Granada Mk2 around until 1985.
You totally ignored Citroen, who pioneered this. The Citroen DS back in the 50's was designed for aerodynamics, and the Citoren CX of the 80's was by far the most aerodynamic car of the day. Nobody in Europe would have been surprised by aerodynamic cars, because they had been driving Citroens for decades.
The Ds is regularly considered by auto stylists as one of the most beautiful cars ever made. And even a biased person would have to admit that the CX and SM look like cars of the future. The Ami sedans were a but fugly, though. As for weird, I'd prefer to think that they're unique. Citroens were always designed to be functional, even if that meant being different. Once you drive one, you wonder why all cars aren't designed that way. Still, there are some motorists, especially Americans, who seem to take pride in backwards design. If your ideal car has a live rear axle on leaf springs, than Citroen probably won't be your favorite brand.
Yes the DS was way ahead of its time... along with the traction that preceded it...this vid does not explain convincingly why cars of the 70s and 80s were boxy in the first place
@@geoffk777 The biggest problem with Citroen (and most french cars) is their reliability, they were ahead of their time they just weren't very good. I'm a European Classic car guy I know people who own classic DSes and SMs and there is just always something that brakes on those cars. If you fully restore a classic American or German car you'll be able to drive 200.000km without any serious repairs (if rust doesn't get to your body). With a Citroen you'll be lucky to go 10.000km without something braking down on you. Speaking of live axles and leaf springs, I own a classic Mustang GT Coupe (one of the other cars people consider one of the most beautiful cars ever made). With a modified suspension, brakes and engine and I'm willing to race it against any CX, SM or DS you've got and I mean on a track not just a drag strip. My friends with a classic E28 and E30 cant keep up with it even with its backwards technology, so you can make simple design work.
The 90's produced some great cars. My fords, chevys, hondas and toyotas lasted a long time, and it was just before everything got all heavy with more than 2 airbags and overly complicated with electronics.
+Christian B Agreed. Same goes for 80s cars. My favorite years for cars are anything from the 1910s through the 1960s and some exceptions in the very early 1970s from AMC and Chrysler.
I don't like curvy cars. But I don't get mad, and I don't expect the modern generation to do anything about it, because the momentum to keep it this way is already in place. Instead, I just own a classic car of my choosing, and choose to drive it as often as my daily driver. Pretty much 50-50. If you can't beat 'em... just work around 'em. I'll be damned if new age auto designers are going to tell me what I should be driving.
Yes it is every generation have a taste so you cannot compared it. But you know in the end market will choose what is good for environment and mass people.
"Modern cars are much more curvy in design."
*Laughs in CyberTruck.
Yes
No
yes
1000st like
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happened to me in 8th grade
I'm sure your body was simply adjusting to new fuel prices haha
Actually,he's the new Steve.
nice!
hahahhahaha
It's ok, mine neither, mine neither
dont bodyshame cars please
We have to love cars how they really are!
Somebody give this person a bottle! Hush hush little baby :P Time to take a nap :)
uh
Para Soul Sorry I had to make the joke XD
Ugly ass Combies.
Vox: How cars went from boxy to curvy
Elon Musk: Hold my CyberTruck
EdwiN lol
yes
It's evolving, just backwards
Actually tesla cybertruck is more aerodynamic and efficient
Cybertruck isn't boxy, it's angular. It's just a round car with less polygons
RUclips about ten years ago was Boxxy, too.
Genius reference here.
*+Patrick Hogan*
Now it's glitchy - intentionally so. Oh, and nasty to some of the channel operators, as well.
Thats a name I havent heard in a long time
+Thinkbeforeyoureply
You didn't get the joke, did you?
RUclips is more aerodynamic now
In 2100 cars will be thicc
wtf
wtf
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wtf
Correction! In 2050 cars will be thicc. In 2100 cars will be EXTRA THICC!
I've genuinely always wanted to know this.
Chloe Ellis same.
That's why I love this channel!
@Chloe Ellis, Listen I'm waiting for the day where it's so round that it's like 1 continuous curve like a dome. Now when will that happen? =(
well just look the first generation Audi TT, its basicly what you say, but you cant design a car thats that round, because its dangerous at high speed, thats why the first gen TT first had much accidents at high speed, and because of this they had to put a spoiler at the back to hold the car in place. So you see they already tried that, but it is too dangerous
Well, this was common sense for at least two hundred years, if not more. I was personally interested to know what took them this long to make cars curvy, not the science behind it.
I actually always wondered this. I always prefered the old school boxy ones.
I prefer model t cars
I prefer my bike
i prefer ur mums
1987 caprice classic
Less efficient
Tesla was like "hmmmm triangles"
*"POLYGONS"*
Hexagon
Confirmed
Hmmm elon musk favorite word
@@matdoesmc2633 pentagons
"Modern cars are curvy"
Cybertruck: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Sale I think
same lol
Cccllllaaapppp
Yes
From boxy to curvy to poly
"And in the 90's, cars were curvy" *volvo laughs*
Also mercedes and BMW. W124, W201,Gwagen are all boxy
@@rolyat Lincoln town car 1990
Yet Volvos got curvy with S40/V40 in 1995.
Early 90’s Suburbans and Blazers were absolute bricks as well
@ love the boxes and bricks more then modern shut
1982: _Uwe Bahnsen makes curvy car; People laughed_
2019: _Elon Musk makes boxy car; People laughed_
history repeats itself
@@Nugcon Its sound like an ad from Volvo
Best comment.
@Alexandre About what?
*poly
I like boxy cars
i like car
@@eganplaysMC I car
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And it's among fastest suvs
@@kamallb4650 The fastest SUVs are the very curvy Model X (straight line) and Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadriofoglio Verde (Nurburgring time)
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and the reason all cars look the same today is because they've all been moving closer and closer to the most aerodynamic shape
A teardrop is more aerodynamic than a sphere as it reduces drag
probably closer to a drop shape squished in some way due to the ground beneath
Curvy design is just a marketing gimmick. Curves are only pleasing to human eyes not physics. The shortest path between 2 points is a straight line not a curve. Physics is actually on the side of boxy designs. Look at airplane design such as the F22 or the F117. It has few curves and a lot of straight lines. The most aerodynamic design for a car would be diamond shaped with sharp angles to cut through the air.
Novusod the F22 still has curves, those planes use straight lines for stealth not fuel efficiency. while a straight line is usually a shorter path than a curved one it creates turbulence and drag on the vehicle
Novusod the f-22 and f-117 are boxy to reflect radar waves. Aerodynamics cares about uninterrupted airflow not distance between two points.
"a whopping 71 cents" *laughing in 3 word language*
I live in Brazil and here gas is 4 bucks
guts feliz 71 cents back then is now $6.14 today.
@@ShadowBeta peraí,um brasileiro nesse canal????
I hope you know the value of money was different through out time... Otherwise you just look silly.
@@akiradel você não esta aqui tbm?
How Lara Croft went from boxy to curvy!
more polygons
Mamble Sexy Sexy polygons.
Tiztu a cxM
lol
Kobe good episode idea
who else loves the boxy cars?
me likey boxy cars
i like foxy cars
I like cocksy bars
Dias Amreé ::raises hand:: Me too. It's what I grew up with. So what if your car is shaped like a brick? It will use up more of the parking space so it won't be wasted.
87 Oldsmobile here
Spoiler: Aerodynamics lowered gas consumption
already guessed aerodynamics before I clicked
Always gots to be a spoiler in the comments section XD
I'm thankful for the spoiler cuz I didn't actually want to watch the video to find out the answer 😂😂😂
Viwe Mbava I would hope people knew this before watching the video
Tate Moran, well apparently not everyone, since vox decided it was enough to make a video about it
TAURUS! Now the North American car with the shape and the feel that we've never seen before
*T A U R U S*
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_T A U R U S_
I love that song. It should be a meme.,
The 1986 Ford Taurus First Generation was used by the Cat Burglar Nights which is for the Modern Car of the Cat Burglar Nights from the 1980s.
The difference between the curvy cars from the 40s and those of today: Even the curvy cars from those days looked really nice. Modern cars look like someone wrote a random shape generator and fed that into a manufacturing line.
Curvy + boxy + spiky
Cars in the 40's were designed to exude elegance. Today, while there's certainly some elegance to a lot of models, everybody is also trying to make them look powerful or even downright aggressive at the same time.
No just no 😂😂😂😂 cars look more beautiful today than ever but ok everyone is entitled to their opinions
@@Floww23 garbage opinion
@@Floww23delet this
What I don't understand is why older cars looked so good and then 80's and 90's cars looked so terrible...
The NSX would like a word with you
+samin90 Why the NSX? There's a lot of good looking cars from the 90's but the NSX does not stand out for of its design.
Exactly, the 20's cars were nice but the 70's -90's cars were....well UGLY!
It's a change in design philosophy. Along with the change from boxy to round, the aesthetic of car design changed from one of metallic shapes to plastic free-flow forms. Today's cars have a *plasticity* about them reflected both in construction and style.
Umm, totally a matter of opinion I know, but the 3dr Sierra Cosworth, UR Sport Quattro, 190e Cosworth, every BMW, 964 911,all three gens of RX7, R34 GTR, MK4 Supra, Mclaren F1, Ferrari 288 GTO and F40 etc etc. Many of the best looking cars of all time come from the 80's and 90's, at least for the hard core gear heads. The 80's was the golden era of win on Sunday sell on Monday cars, and the European offerings from that decade are easily their most iconic and widely loved, likewise with the 90s and Japanese cars. Really it is just non-enthusiast and american cars from the 80's and 90's that were ugly, for the enthusiasts those were possibly the two greatest decades to date (possibly trumped by the 60's and 20-teens).
Soon, All of the buildings will be curvy someday.
That is already being used to minimize vortex shedding that makes tall buildings sway. There is a video from B1M that explains more about that.
@@buddyclem7328 It's actually because curvy buildings get better gas mileage due to the decreased wind resistance.
@@joekoch7580 😃
Please no, I personally prefer the style of the 1920s NYC buildings.
So we wont hit corners and blood wont come out
1980: Boxy cars
1990: Curvy Cars
2020: T R I A N G L E S
And 2050 what round cars hahahha
MasterYoshi 64 LMAOAKAKA
@@enriquemalparidabermejo8332 5 dimensional stellated icosahedrons
Basically when there are wars, humans makes progress.
Lol humans make process better without stupid wars to waste their time and lives on.
Actually during WWII the car models stayed fairly the same and not a lot of change on the home front. After the war is when cars dramatically changed and took off.
You'd be surprised how many technologies developed during wars have made their way into mass market use.
Yeah actually a lot of things we take for granted today and just think of as normal were actually invented in war
Depends what you consider to be progress.
when cars have better curves than you do
i like my women not curvy at all ;)
No. Just........no.
Weebs should be incinerated good example was the Veneno and Centenario
Well duh, 1965 Ferrari 250 GTO is pretty damn curvaceous, nothing to be surprised about.
A popemobile has better curves than me :/
I still love the Box body.
Rich Mellow no
Rich Mellow cars like this are nice.
G body cars are funny looking, they should've never died.
So you love paying more for gas eh?
sari bsunt it's a worthwhile sacrifice to have a better looking car for some
50s = flat cars
70s = boxy cars
90s = curvy cars
2010s = ball cars
2030s = 2 balls cars
tbc...
Oof
I guess cars hit puberty in the 90's
And then turned into lonely fat neckbeards at 2000's
Cars hit puberty in the mid to late 60s fym
TheReckless1 and painfully revived known as the hyper car
Yep 😂
You mean they became ugly, boring plastic appliances in the 2000s, except the RWD muscle and sports coupes.
I think the square boxy cars look better
Dustin M hell yes
there were even more shitty boxy cars back then, you don't have a chance to see them.
That won't change any soon ... meanwhile 2019 ... Tesla CyberTruck appears
TL;DR, global warming caused all the clay models the designers use to design cars to melt so all the 90's cars look like they've melted a bit.
That's really funny actually.
CockatooDude I'm getting sick and tried of these jellybean designs....cars today have no sole and there dull....lets hope cars go back to boxy shapes in the 2020s.
rye shelton Well I think curved shapes can have character, look at some old Alfas for example, or the Miura, or even the newer McLarens. What it really comes down to, is that exciting cars look exciting, and boring cars look boring.
+rye shelton With the climate change going on? Nobody practical is going to want cars that guzzle more gas that both they and the planet have to pay for.
***** Hate to break it to you, but container ships and planes use way more gas than cars do. Not saying I am against electric cars or anything, just stating facts.
That 80s Taurus commercial cracked me up. Why do we have advertisements like that anymore? 😂😂😂
We should.
Taurus!now a north american car with the shape and the feel we never seen before! TAURUS
Culture changes. It won’t be appealing to everyone.
Then there must be something wrong with this "everyone" person. If this ad doesn't make you want to buy a TAURUS!, I'm not sure you've got an entirely human brain.
sassy pants *don't
Nothing will beat the style of the 50's
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So true!
Same
Then, it went from curvy to edgy.
Georgey!
The new Honda Civic is bigger than most older Accords or Camrys and is edged out to hell.
EEEEEEEEDGE
Crawling in my skin
But nope there are edgy cars at the 90s and 80s Most of them are supercars like Countach, Diablo, Espirit, idk add more here mate
i kinda want boxy cars to come back.
liquidpersuasion word
I want late 50s, late 60s and late 90s cars to come back: Bel-Air, Mustang and Lancer Evo FTW!!!
Diego Ruiz nerd
liquidpersuasion I thinlk they are. New cars seem to be coming with more sharp creases nowadays.
Boxy cars have more space inside
Grey Poupon has always had a curvy design
Grey Poupon I miss you
Advertising in comments. Welcome to the future.
Kenny J Never question grey poupon
But of course.
Grey Poupon I never get you novelty accounts
Ive worked with cad in the automotive industry, and i think cad technology played a bigger role than represented in the video. Before cad, geometrical complexity was much more expensive in terms of human work. Now cad assists you in designing, creating the tooling on tools such as cnc, and even measuring very quickly the shape of manufactured products. All of this allows a lot more freedom in terms of design
I've always wondered about this
no you havent
I have too
+Ireland bullshit there's no way in hell you have
same here
Dmitri Valdez Do you know me? I like looking at the world around me and I'm interested in mechanics and architecture. It would take an idiot not to see the difference over time
I love boxy cars.
That because you love corners... probably you were a troublesome kid and sent to lots of corners, you learns to love them. (It's a joke)
Same
Me too. I love boxy cars such as the classic Chevrolet Caprice or the Oldsmobile Delta 88; they are my current favorite 80's cars.
Me too.
LΛTΞKSI boxy just works for some styles of car: family sedans, muscle cars.
Curvy is good for sportier cars
Just like video games graphics.
Gamer Cat it doesn’t totally follow the ability of computer engineering design. When it was done via paper, it had curves... interesting.
Lara Croft...
Metal Gear
Vice City
Cough xbox one cough cough
1985: Flying Cars!
3019: 100% Circular Ball Cars
I like older cars
Alexis' Fishin', Huntin', and Farming Show me too,and ride me
Alexis' Fishin', Huntin', and Farming Show I enjoy driving a new pile of plastic that has 13 computers to give me trouble.
Jim Rr+ right? l love it when my ECU fails and then my car locks up until the dealer can replace the ECU and re register it with the rest of the system.
Someone better make a “like my men” joke i stg
Same here!
Let's make German cars great again.
german cars never stoped being great, american cars those are the shity ones
European cars have always been superior to American cars. If your petrol is expensive you need to make your cars beautiful and good.
~ A European
+Daan Willemsen
LMAO no! Euro cars (esp German ones) are like Swiss watches: the bee's knees when everything was mechanical...but greatly outclassed by the Asians once electronics got involved.
In the USA, euro cars are (almost without exception) leased, sold with "comprehensive maintenance included," and returned at a fraction of the purchase price. Reason being, no sane person wants to repair one on their own nickel! Witness used BMW 7-series sold for less than a comparable Honda Accord. Great V-12 fun (until the first thing breaks, at which point repairs exceed the car's value.)
bcubed72 Compairing the US and EU car markets is a blit difficult. EU manufractures like Mercedes and Volkswagen sell different cars on the US market than on the EU market. Some EU manufractures (like Citroen, Skoda, Opel/Vauxhall and Seat) don't even sell cars in the US. And the only US manufracter that realy sells cars on a large scale in the EU is Ford, and Ford Europe sells different cars like the Ka and the Fiesta.
* a bit difficult
Seriously guys - every couple videos you guys drop is something I've thought about my whole life but ever took the time to research myself haha.
and then they release some trash like "why white people can never stop being racist"
Vox is king of making videos nobody asked for but are interested in
the next revolution of car is just going to be a sphere
I like old school cars much better
They are MUCH more dangerous than curvy cars
@@mansoorahmed1256 bro, modern cars are also dangerous. Plus most of the time the material keep changing morph and it makes you stuck
It also had to do with manufacturing and designing processes. Back in the 30/40's, they handmade the molds for the stamped steel, and alot of high end cars had panels hammered by hand to their final form. Then in the late 70's, computers started being used for the designing of cars but due how limited they were, designs were limited to straight lines and edges. That is why the 80's are the pinnacle of boxy. It has little to do with fuel prices since in the 50's fuel was cheaper then the 80's and 50's cars are way rounder, even in europe where economy matters.
Curvy cars are more aerodynamic, but beyond a gentle rounding of the edges and corners, they also tend to be less space efficient, especially when it comes to cargo room. So many of the more utilitarian cars of Europe were actually getting boxier, sometimes boxy in the extreme, during the 1970s (eg. the curvy VW Beetle and Type 3 fastback gave way for the boxy Rabbit and Dasher) and the downsized U.S. cars of the mid-to-late 1970s (eg. Cadillac Seville, 1977 Chevrolet Impala, 1979 Ford LTD) imitated the boxiness of their European and Japanese counterparts. The 1980s, with people getting tired of boxy styling, improvements in manufacturing technology that made flush windows and smooth headlights cost effective and speed limits rising again, was an ideal time for a car like the Ford Taurus. Now cars are about as rounded as ever, but many trucks, even with smoothed edges, seem to emphasize the boxy nature of their cargo-friendly shapes. Fashion will probably continue to push styling in shifting directions, but aerodynamics will play a big role in shaping cars in the future, even those that emphasize cargo capacity.
Soon Cars Are Going To Be Flat
Like earth
Pedro Rocha I was gonna say that.
Pedro Rocha Like your brain.
oooooooh roast battle alert
Cosmos Media New cars are slowly becoming more polygonic.
1990's Mazda RX7 FD is the definition of curvy
It's thicc 😍💯💯
Rathanak Mitsubishi GTO/3000GT too during a time when the corvette still was a boxy wedge.
Rathanak Honda S2000*
the rx8 is the definition of t h i c c
porsche 356 was also curvy
Is it me, or did almost all cars from the 70's look cool?
Edit: What I mean by that is that today there is a huge price gap between cool looking cars and junk cars. But, in the 70's, a lot of the cheaper cars still looked interesting.
SmileyGuyFilms you, just you
+SmileyGuyFilms It's just you.
I agree, I myself can not stand the design of vehicles today, it's all the same, nothing new is brought to the table with the common every-day mans car.
Yeah, if you go to car shows the best looking roadsters are from the '70s up to very early '80s. There was a good combination of angular and aerodynamic. And I think there was a greater respect for proportion.
Cars from the 70's are the best. People bag on older cars, Just spray some glossy paint and a nice set of wheels and they're all over it.
I love watching those old 70s action movies and seeing the boxy cars crash and stuff, it's so fascinating
Some curved sports cars look great but i think the modern sedans and their curves are extremely ugly.
Fat shamer
I agree.
Alot of new cars look stupid now...too many lines or curves.
Very true
physics, that's why!
Neil Samuel aerodynamics
So, physics wasn't invented in the 70s yet?
No, it just wasn't applied to this application because until that point there wasn't a pressure or need to find an alternative because of fuel prices. No need to be a sarcastic ass hole
Penny Lane no, physics was never an invention.
We just improved upon it,and made it look better
ABostonElite yeah okay so physics and economics!
okay?
i like boxy cars man. Got myself a vw golf 1 this summer. i love golf 1 and golf 2.
NoDaut To me, it looks like a ready to go rally car
Bro a mk1 golf is my dream car. Absolute dream.
I certainly dislike such cars as Golf. I wanted a sedan, so I bought a VW Jetta which is like a Golf, but with a long rear instead. It looks beautiful. By the way I drove Golf GTI in driving school.
volarecantare yes i know haha. jetta is cool also.
NoDaut the old boxy cars are the best... new ones are trash in my opinion....
in my opinion, modern cars are a pain to the eye while classic cars, boxy or not are beautiful
For me it's slighty the opposite..
I think they all have a certain beauty to them. It's what's inside the car that really counts
I think that's because we see modern cars all the time in our daily life, so when we see classic cars, they seem fascinating to us. In the 1980s, people probably looked back on cars from the 1950s the same way that we look back on cars from the 1980s.
Boxy cars look trash. Modern curvy cars look WAY better.
@@geoffreybrunell5592 Is nostalgia that's why
Having started driving in the mid 70's, I have to say that most cars today look pretty well all alike. Hardly anything to distinguish the the various models and brands. So from a stylish perspective, boxy cars far surpass today's cars.
You can't tell me a Ford LTD Crown Vic and a Buick Lesabre look that different
Boxy fueless efficiency cars you mean
The averege car in the 70's has a really good look. The average car in the 90's looks like an ugly toy car.
Adrian Arias Coronel a
The average car in the late 70s and early 80s looked depressing and boring if it didn’t have pop up headlights.
ok, you have a point sir. But the buik grand national has character
@@nandernugget. 300ZX looks Depressing even with Pop-Up Headlights
*laughs in 90s Japanese car design*
Aerodynamics, duhhhhhhh
"Cars are curvy, and that won't be changing any time soon."
Cybertruck: aight i'm boutta end this whole man's career
Remember when cars actually had character?
Scubadog yeah, when they weren't boxes
Before the Govt regulations on cars in the 1970s...
Ryo Amora sir, I think you need a small bit of therapy
Ryo Amora oh crap never mind im with you now.
You got angry when they just stated their opinion. I guess most nostilgatards can't respect opinions.
I remember when the makers used to advertise drag coefficients
Zero Cool Ha! Yeah, you remember how they used to do. I feel like automakers retreated a little from the spherico-bubbly shape after the 90s, and we're at a halfway point now. Intermediate between boxes and bubbles
WeeWeeJumbo Yeah. I dig the combination of angular and curvy cars of this decade. The 1995+ Ford Taurus looked absurdly round, IMHO.
Ed Rice Yes the new look, especially with American makes, is all chunked-up curves, which makes cars look distinctly muscular IMO
Boxy cars have one big advantage-you can actually sit in the back seat in comfort! Those jellybean cars have rear seats usable only by children and amputees.
They first looked like jellybeans but now they look like jelly beans after they have been eaten and excreted by a goat.
Seating isn't a big advantage towards car guys
That has more to do with unibody design than exterior shape. One of the biggest reasons cars are so safe even though they're technically smaller than the boxy land boats of old is because you have a unibody safety cell that encapsulates everything with a tough steel chassis.
+phuturephunk Chryslers were unibodys since 1960.
Umm, no, Mopars were unibody, since the 60's. Unibody is defined as NOT the usual body on frame construction. No frame on a 60's Mopar, that's why they are so difficult to restore. Rust is hiding everywhere. And that's also why Mopars were so lightweight, with killer engines, that made Mopars the stoplight winners. You had to spend big bucks modifiying Chevy and Ford engines, with body on frame construction, to compete with the mopars. Mopars were cheap, and un-beatable, as used cars. When you slammed the doors, or the trunk on a mopar, it sounded like the it would rattle forever. Pieces of tin welded together. But, beautiful and fast.
Next cars are just gonna be circles
Mini Outspan Orange: Am I joke to you?
Jon Anderson they gonna be those Jurassic park thingys
Elon musk: introducing my t r i a n g l e electric pickup
They'll be spheres. The wheel will fall out of fashion because we won't need wheels anymore.
That Taurus song needs a heavy metal remix with Cookie Monster vocals. \m/
MetalJesusRocks love your vids man.
MetalJesusRocks i love your channel man! Keep up the good work!
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Another major component to the radical shift in styling we see in the early 90s is the DOT approving the use of composite headlamps, allowing for headlamp and front end designs that simply would not have been possible with square, rectangular, or circular sealed beam lamps. Until then, the only options was complicated retractable headlamps, but with composite headlamps using specially shaped lenses, they could make any almost shape to fit designers' visions.
I miss old boxy cars they were beautiful and luxurious. The last generation of them were the 97 to 99 Chevy truck lineup
Tom Farmer I miss the old boxy ford pickups.
+Tom Farmer *cough* nostalgia goggles
It takes a true car enthusiast to love all types of cars and understand other's passion for certain types of cars
The Chrysler 300 is a close fit.
Matt Ward dude, I'm only 18 and i love boxy cars. they look more angular, sharper, and more masculine.
I want old cars back :(
But 40s cars are curvy...
EDIT: To clear it out, i didn't watch the full video.
Yes, because there was an aerodynamic craze back then too. The Chrysler Airflow of 1934 was one of the first to feature a streamlined, Art Deco design, and this eventually became very popular. Tatra in Europe was also doing very streamlined cars from the 1930's on. VW Beetles and Porsches also shared this design.
Eventually, streamlined design fell out of fashion, and by the 1960's, boxy designs were back in vogue.
But they were built by hand and the cars in the 90s were mass-produced
Actually, from the Ford Model T forward, most inexpensive cars were mass-produced. But what does that have to do with the styling?
When the economy started to recover in the mid 1930s manufacturers started to make streamlined cars that could catch the public's eyes who had been stuck with boxy and jalopy style cars that been produced since the Model T.
It's MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO!!!
I like the boxy cars a bit better.
One word. Aerodynamics
Tanay Parnaik nothing else aerodynamic just makes a car save fuel and move smoother threw the air and road.
and style
Tanay Parnaik i thought that before i watched that video ... it was pretty useless
charger master through*
Two words: Boring Sheepmobile
Rip the Ford Taurus 1986-2019
Real -women- cars have curves.
Get out normie.
Aoife Dunne Real women have vaginas and not penises
Master Pooper very true
Aoife Dunne how about NO
I can ride in my car
now the next question, why do cars look shitty today. Old cars look so cool, new cars lack any sort of definition
That's a personal opinion.
Again, that's a personal opinion. Mercedes looks worlds away from a Hyundai to me.
fair enough
rickenbacker40011 I think it's mainly their colors. Cars today are pretty much all white, gray, black, or warm grays.
frostbittenfire 1976 is cool.....2016 sucks and is boring.
Back to box pls.
nope
Jetset Willy Its old car and we dont want it...
This, please bring the good looking cars back
Just go buy an older car, they are still out there
Nissan Cube would be perfect for you.
It's called following the trend. Every car manufacturer has their own distinct style or quirks and other brands tend to copy that. For instance, look at how quickly headlight shapes have changed in the last 10 years, they're getting more and more sleek profiled. Another example, front bumpers are becoming more aggressive stylistically. Every car company wants to throw some carbon fibre accents on their vehicles now, even if the car in question is a family sedan. We're currently seeing an ongoing trend happening right now with the newer 4x4's, they're becoming wider and have a wider stance.
First car come up to my mind is G wagon... boxy, love it.
I like box cars better than curved
NZ WOTB same. I think all new cars look the same and boring
Nowadays, can't tell a Nissan from a Volvo from a Hyundai from a Ford from a Kia
@@ryoamora8655 exactly
Ryo Amora A lot of 80s cars were shoeboxes on four wheels. Only with some trim differences
well i think your profile pic are a boxy cat
I understand this points, but boxy looks so much better.
I would gladly chose a pre 2000s boxy truck over any vehicle in today’s time
Today's so called American vehicles are for the most part hideous looking. Imo gm is the absolute worst then, dodge (not really American at all) and ford being the best looking out of the big three.
There is so much wrong with this video I don't even know where to begin. The most glaring example was the fact that all the European examples given were sports cars... even though they were talking about saving fuel? Yeah I'm sure people were buying porches to save money on fuel.
Buying a porch does save a ton of money on fuel. A Porsche on the other hand....
slickrickbawss I'm feeling just the same.
Kepe Brilliant
I liked it
That was oversimplifying. European family cars have always tended to be curvy to save on fuel, right back to the VW Bettle. Fuel is also a HUGE part of the running costs of a car in Europe. (I spend about £2K on my car each year and fuel is at least 70% of that). So even luxury cars like BMW and Audi have needed as high fuel mileage as possible. Porsche had curvy designs to improve road holding and acceleration, but many of Porsche's innovations got handed down to the cheaper manufacturers, like disc brakes and ABS.
Yup, porsche has been ahead of its time since inception. Even the first to manufacture an electric car way way way before Tesla. The problem was it wasnt cost effective or trendy. And electricity in Europe was not as readily accessible. Theres a reason Porsche is regarded as one of the best cars in the world
petition to bring back boxy cars
Smooth? = ugly
Boxy = yes
Ha! Vox, for the first time I knew most of what was explained in the video. All thanks to mr Regular.
CptnJCFG RCR in the house! I wonder what Mr.Regular thinks of this video?
And then in the early 2000’s they made cars bubbly.
thats more the mid 2000s with the Toyota Aygo
The ford sierra was quite popular in the UK. my dad had one.
Mine too! Later it became my first car. :)
Very popular as police cars too.
The Sierra was popular eventually, but it took about 3-4 years before sales really started to take off. In 1982, variations of it's predecessor, the Cortina, had been sold for the last 20 years and was one of the UK's best selling cars. And the Cortina was VERY boxy. That's why the Vauxhall Cavalier Mk2 did so well during the early 1980s, because people didn't want the Sierra. Initial sales of the Sierra was so bad that Ford kept the old boxy Granada Mk2 around until 1985.
Real cars have curves
Waaay ahead of ya. :I
Mortified Potato xD
Daughter burner ;~;
You totally ignored Citroen, who pioneered this. The Citroen DS back in the 50's was designed for aerodynamics, and the Citoren CX of the 80's was by far the most aerodynamic car of the day. Nobody in Europe would have been surprised by aerodynamic cars, because they had been driving Citroens for decades.
Citroens are wierd, always have been. Ugly cars for French weirdos
The Ds is regularly considered by auto stylists as one of the most beautiful cars ever made. And even a biased person would have to admit that the CX and SM look like cars of the future. The Ami sedans were a but fugly, though.
As for weird, I'd prefer to think that they're unique. Citroens were always designed to be functional, even if that meant being different. Once you drive one, you wonder why all cars aren't designed that way. Still, there are some motorists, especially Americans, who seem to take pride in backwards design. If your ideal car has a live rear axle on leaf springs, than Citroen probably won't be your favorite brand.
'59 Citroen DS...compared to a '59 caddy??...huge difference..and the Citroen Light years ahead in thinking.
Yes the DS was way ahead of its time... along with the traction that preceded it...this vid does not explain convincingly why cars of the 70s and 80s were boxy in the first place
@@geoffk777
The biggest problem with Citroen (and most french cars) is their reliability, they were ahead of their time they just weren't very good. I'm a European Classic car guy I know people who own classic DSes and SMs and there is just always something that brakes on those cars. If you fully restore a classic American or German car you'll be able to drive 200.000km without any serious repairs (if rust doesn't get to your body). With a Citroen you'll be lucky to go 10.000km without something braking down on you.
Speaking of live axles and leaf springs, I own a classic Mustang GT Coupe (one of the other cars people consider one of the most beautiful cars ever made). With a modified suspension, brakes and engine and I'm willing to race it against any CX, SM or DS you've got and I mean on a track not just a drag strip. My friends with a classic E28 and E30 cant keep up with it even with its backwards technology, so you can make simple design work.
I LOVE BLOCKY CARS BRING THEM BACK PLEASE
My name is boxxy
/b/'s queen
degenerates
PaddyDoesTech were you the Boxy that was on Battlestar Galactica in the seventies?
You just won the game
forever queen
Cars looked damn fine from the 30's to the 70's we need to make cars great again
Gas prices: *oh no you don't!*
can you remake this video on white girls? curious on how they got thick af.
Nintendaz mc Donald and whoremoans
This is what we really do need... :D Seriously Vox should do it :D
Nintendaz ahemmm... I think you mean American girls, European are just fine.
It's all the kfc and not enough exercise lol
lmao
wow, you guys have a video clip for everything you say. and it fits... very impressive
Goes from boxy to ugly... The 90s was a sad era for cars
The 90's produced some great cars. My fords, chevys, hondas and toyotas lasted a long time, and it was just before everything got all heavy with more than 2 airbags and overly complicated with electronics.
That's not true! Some of the most iconic cars of all time were produced in the 90s. I see your point but one must not generalize.
Maxwell - 70s cars were ugly.
+Christian B Agreed. Same goes for 80s cars. My favorite years for cars are anything from the 1910s through the 1960s and some exceptions in the very early 1970s from AMC and Chrysler.
Supra, 22b Sti, GTR, RX7, Mitsubishi Evo, etc
I don't like curvy cars. But I don't get mad, and I don't expect the modern generation to do anything about it, because the momentum to keep it this way is already in place. Instead, I just own a classic car of my choosing, and choose to drive it as often as my daily driver. Pretty much 50-50. If you can't beat 'em... just work around 'em.
I'll be damned if new age auto designers are going to tell me what I should be driving.
Yes it is every generation have a taste so you cannot compared it. But you know in the end market will choose what is good for environment and mass people.
Currently getting more and more boxy cars
We are?
Finally car companies are taking risks because of Tesla’s ballsy moves
Nah dude, boxy Volvo's are the way 2 go.
Charles Wellington lll 144 1969
the best looking volvos are the rounder models imo. amazon, duett, 164, 142.
+Harri Indeed.
lebron jaques mines a '84 244. Amazing
242s are the way to go
The 90s is just a re-hash of futurism of the 50s