Your prediction is correct ! 👍👍👍 The other manufacturers haven’t ramped up their manufacturing… they are still tying their shoe laces ! Tesla have this race won.
Another great practical review. Watching you come down from the pine forest the ride looked quite hard, as you pointed out. Have they fixed the water ingress problem with the tail gate when its opened on a wet day? No HUD, No appleCar play. Not enough buttons or knobs to tempt me I'm afraid, will be spending similar on an other manufactures vehicle that has better interior ergonomics, rather than just the giant iPad UI. That blank dashboard is their achilles heel IMHO, loosing a lot of conservative buyers concerned about the safety of the daft touch screen UI. Thanks for the review. Relieved.
I am not sure that most people buying EV's have 69800 euros to spend. This is gone into executive car price. Very good car but there is more choice EV's now and not as exspensive. O to 100kms times are going to be curbed by insurance companies with higher premiums so that will soon be stopped advertised. Your a good car reviewer.
Have a deposit on Y and EV6. Keen to watch your review of the EV6, and hoping to test drive myself soon. On the model Y, I'm worried about ride quality/firmness, especially on country roads, so will likely stick with 19 inch wheels if I choose that. Did it feel overly stiff when you drove it or do you think you could live with it? On the EV6 I'm worried about how dark the back seat area will be due to the slooping roof line and small rear windows. They should have put a panoramic roof in it I recon..
Any idea what the price will be once the German factory starts supplying these to Ireland? I think currently, there's a 10% import tariff for all cars coming into Europe. Then add VAT & VRT. I think overall it works out about 15% (or 10500) higher cost due to the that import tariff. (cumulative effect on the later VAT and VRT). If that's the case, then as soon as Tesla Germany starts sending cars to Ireland, the new price should be 58K. Then the model 3 will have to take a price reduction also. The issue with Tesla is the cost. If the above is correct, that cost will drastically reduce and the Model Y will be extremely popular across Europe.
Thanks for the comment Paul. I actually think the price won't change much. They've gauged market and they are selling well. I'd be pleasantly surprised if they do.
In the price bracket, it's got a lot going for it. OTOH best-selling EV by next year might be something less expensive as the twilight falls on ICE, and more people go electric and most won't spend this kind of money. I'm not sure Tesla has the kudos of other marques outside EV enthusiasts to dominate the price point yet. Of course the best selling car next year will still be an SUV with an ice engine, maybe some battery capability but sadly that's where we are.
Sure it’s a very nice car but the leasing rates (in UK) are just too high for now as a company car. Way more than similar size cars like the Q4 or iX3, in fact more than an iPace currently. I went for a Q4 and now waiting until early March for delivery - a model Y is beyond June 2022 delivery currently and likely to get worse. However if I was a private buyer I might be tempted due to the crazy residual values but don’t have £60K plus lying around (or can afford the astronomical leasing / finance payments!). Might well be looking at one of these in 3 - 4 years time but by then the EV market is likely to be very different.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I think the model Y is in such demand in the UK and so new that fleets can’t get any discounts on the cars so can’t offer good leasing rates. For example the iX3 is about 10% more to lease than a Q4 but the model Y is close to 40% higher despite having a similar list price to the iX3. I doubt this will change for a while as Tesla can sell every model they make easily. I’m hoping in 3-4 years time there will be a lot more competition and choice for family sized EV’s and my prediction is it won’t be from the established makers like VW but more from the Chinese. Interesting times!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Derek is there anybody in Ireland who does car wrapping? Pretty much every American reviewer says don’t waste your money on the red as the paint is shit quality , just buy the white and get it wrapped. A before and after of a Tesla would be very interesting to see.
Thanks for the point of clarification Howard. I have added this to the description. I was thinking back to some concepts before it was officially released. The image obviously stuck in my mind www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-third-row-seat-test-video/
Thanks for another great review. I think you're right, it'll be the big seller over the next few years. It looks great in red. If I had the money, I'd go for the Jaguar, simply because it's a Jag, enough said.
While it looks very practical and the interior is great, it’s a bit bloated looking outside not a very nice look compared to the M3 which is much more svelte looking. Definitely more practical for families with that boot. I would much rather the looks of the EV 6 though.
Great car... I like the styling, the performance and range and especially the supercharging network. I am concerned that rock chips will really show up on that frontend... The interior is a bit spartan for that price point, and I personally I like a few more buttons, and a real dash.. but that could just be because that's what I am used to after over 30 years of driving.. I test drove the Modely Y performance a while ago and more recently the Model X, and that acceleration was amazing! This is the vehicle I am considering to replace my Chevy Bolt, when the time comes. If only the wait was not so long. I agree w/ you that Model Y will sell really well in Europe, once Giga Berlin starts putting out vehicles at a lower price point. Great review as always.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland - ok, you helped convince me.. I just placed an order for a Model Y long range… no telling when I’ll get it though.. probably August next year, assuming the Hertz purchase doesn’t delay things too much.
Nice car, shame about Tesla's lousy customer service ! Tesla Motors Ireland Ltd. screwed up the paperwork for the model 3 we had bought and paid for in full (€~64k) and are now refusing to honour the contract and demanding an extra €5,000 because they failed to apply for the E.V. grant in a timely manner. Not only did they fail to provide the service they promised, but their customer service department have completely stonewalled us and refused to engage in any meaningful manner. It is absolutely clear to us that the company has zero regard for individual customers. Nice cars but truly dismal customer service !!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Tesla has deep pockets and lots of lawyers. Although we have a good case, and would win eventually, it would be a long and costly process to take them to court ourselves. I strongly suspect that we are not the only customer in Ireland that they have done this to, so I have reported the whole mess to the CCPC for them to investigate on behalf of Irish consumers. They can take enforcement action much more quickly on behalf of all affected customers in Ireland.
Thanks Roland, you are correct. Let me answer here for you. Handling is good even for such a heavy car. The low center of gravity is key here but you do feel the weight. Steering weight can be adjusted as it's fly by wire. Suspension is on the former side for me. Regen can also be adjusted via the center console. I'd like more adjustability with easier access such as pedals. Tesla's are the most efficient EVs out there. Hard to quantify this one as I only had the car for a few hours to review. I hope to get a RHD and take it on a longer road trip to report back
Not sure if the Model Y will be the best selling EV in Ireland, not at €70K . The best selling EV currently according to a quick Google is the Nissan Leaf at less than half the price of the Tesla and the best selling ICE car is the Hyundai Tuscon at €35K again half the price. Still if I got six numbers would seriously consider the Tesla.
The Teslas have great battery tech but the weird looks on this and the build quality are still put offs. I know people are sick of hearing about the quality issues but every time I see a Model 3 I'm always shocked at the panel gaps and paint defects. I'm an EV owner myself and I do respect what Tesla is doing but until they sort out the American cars (apparently the new Chinese cars are well made) I'll never pay for one.
Thanks for the comment Marcus. Respect to Tesla is correct but as you say, poor build quality may not be accepted now with some much more choice in the market.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Every time I see a Tesla in a video, I'd agree with the looks. In 'the real', however, the Model 3 is a great looking car and I'd assume this is no different. Considering the range on these cars and the futuristic interior (a screen and that's it), I get impression that's why so many are buying them. Early adopters and those comfortable with change will run to these, those more conservative will stick with the legacy brands. It's interesting to see the BMW/Mercedes/Audi equivalents all coming with larger batteries (sometimes more than 10% larger it appears and getting LESS range (sometimes by 10% or more), you'd think the legacy companies have a problem. Batteries are the expensive component and if Tesla is selling cars at same price with those smaller batteries, are the legacy makers making any money while Tesla makes a great profit now? When your company is built around not having to car around weight and gets bloated (i.e. the combustion engine era), it'll be interesting to see if the legacy makers can make the transition both in this regard of building cars to the requirements of electric, as well as in the software side of new vehicles that also appears to be critical. Realistically, Tesla is well on its way to becoming another mainstream brand, and there'll be room for many others of the 'old guard' as well as the incoming onslaught of Chinese companies. It'll be fun to watch this play out and see how many companies we lose, and new companies arrive, in the transition! I'd have to agree EV Review, this car is going to sell like hot cakes in 2022.
The build quality ‘issues’ are mostly overblown. The people with issues shout the loudest. Most deliveries are perfect. As for the other ‘legacy’ manufacturers being bloated and getting less range from same battery sizes, you just have to look at the ‘Munro Live’ RUclips tear down of the Model Y vs the Ford Mach-E. Tesla design is so simple and efficient. Ford in this example had so much more ‘infrastructure’ in the car to do the same job, but not as well. The air cooling system in particular was crazy.
Let a comment below and let me know what you like it or don't like about the Tesla Model Y.
Your prediction is correct ! 👍👍👍
The other manufacturers haven’t ramped up
their manufacturing… they are still tying their shoe laces !
Tesla have this race won.
I havent even seen one IRL yet but i already think its a winner
Thanks for the comment John. What colour will you go for?
Short and sharp review. I agree: German built Model Y will dominate the growing EV market until the sub €25k vehicles arrive at scale. Thanks Derek
Thanks Eamon. More inexpensive models is hopefully going to make a huge difference
It looks fabulous but too expensive for me. Will be sticking with getting my ID4. Thanks for the review.
ID.4 a great car. Thanks for the comment Gabrielle
Another great practical review. Watching you come down from the pine forest the ride looked quite hard, as you pointed out. Have they fixed the water ingress problem with the tail gate when its opened on a wet day? No HUD, No appleCar play. Not enough buttons or knobs to tempt me I'm afraid, will be spending similar on an other manufactures vehicle that has better interior ergonomics, rather than just the giant iPad UI. That blank dashboard is their achilles heel IMHO, loosing a lot of conservative buyers concerned about the safety of the daft touch screen UI. Thanks for the review. Relieved.
Thanks for the comment Noel. Yes, they've added a larger gulley for water and snow.
I am not sure that most people buying EV's have 69800 euros to spend. This is gone into executive car price. Very good car but there is more choice EV's now and not as exspensive. O to 100kms times are going to be curbed by insurance companies with higher premiums so that will soon be stopped advertised. Your a good car reviewer.
Thanks 179 Club for the comment. Appreciate the feedback. Interesting point on the too speeds
Have a deposit on Y and EV6. Keen to watch your review of the EV6, and hoping to test drive myself soon. On the model Y, I'm worried about ride quality/firmness, especially on country roads, so will likely stick with 19 inch wheels if I choose that. Did it feel overly stiff when you drove it or do you think you could live with it? On the EV6 I'm worried about how dark the back seat area will be due to the slooping roof line and small rear windows. They should have put a panoramic roof in it I recon..
Thanks for the comment Vincent. The EV6 has just hit dealers. Hope to test drive it shortly. The Y was definitely on the firm side.
Yeah it's a beauty, but crazy money, are all these cars financed? Anyway did I miss the part where you closed the charge flap?
Ha ha ha charge flap closing in another video...
Thanks for your comprehensive review. What's your opinion of the EV6 and it's prospects when it comes to the Irish market ?
Looking forward to test driving it this week and I'm looking forward to it!
Great! I look forward to your review 👍
My EV6 Test Drive will be another 2 weeks but it's coming I promise!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Good 👍
Any idea what the price will be once the German factory starts supplying these to Ireland? I think currently, there's a 10% import tariff for all cars coming into Europe. Then add VAT & VRT.
I think overall it works out about 15% (or 10500) higher cost due to the that import tariff. (cumulative effect on the later VAT and VRT). If that's the case, then as soon as Tesla Germany starts sending cars to Ireland, the new price should be 58K.
Then the model 3 will have to take a price reduction also.
The issue with Tesla is the cost. If the above is correct, that cost will drastically reduce and the Model Y will be extremely popular across Europe.
Thanks for the comment Paul. I actually think the price won't change much. They've gauged market and they are selling well. I'd be pleasantly surprised if they do.
Pricey but sheer beauty!
You like Paulina? Would you have it in red?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Hell yeah! :)
In the price bracket, it's got a lot going for it. OTOH best-selling EV by next year might be something less expensive as the twilight falls on ICE, and more people go electric and most won't spend this kind of money. I'm not sure Tesla has the kudos of other marques outside EV enthusiasts to dominate the price point yet. Of course the best selling car next year will still be an SUV with an ice engine, maybe some battery capability but sadly that's where we are.
Thanks for the comment Tom. I think VW won't be too happy with my prediction
I do wonder if this will out sell the Model 3 in the UK… i prefer the model 3 but like you, I suspect it will be a big hit.
Thanks for the comment Lee. I may have been too eager with my prediction ha ha
@@NevoEVReviewIreland ha haa, no I think you’re right!
Sure it’s a very nice car but the leasing rates (in UK) are just too high for now as a company car. Way more than similar size cars like the Q4 or iX3, in fact more than an iPace currently. I went for a Q4 and now waiting until early March for delivery - a model Y is beyond June 2022 delivery currently and likely to get worse. However if I was a private buyer I might be tempted due to the crazy residual values but don’t have £60K plus lying around (or can afford the astronomical leasing / finance payments!). Might well be looking at one of these in 3 - 4 years time but by then the EV market is likely to be very different.
Thanks for the comment Ian. Do you think it's to get buyers to borrow a loan / buy outright rather than lease?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I think the model Y is in such demand in the UK and so new that fleets can’t get any discounts on the cars so can’t offer good leasing rates. For example the iX3 is about 10% more to lease than a Q4 but the model Y is close to 40% higher despite having a similar list price to the iX3. I doubt this will change for a while as Tesla can sell every model they make easily. I’m hoping in 3-4 years time there will be a lot more competition and choice for family sized EV’s and my prediction is it won’t be from the established makers like VW but more from the Chinese. Interesting times!
Beautiful car! Can't decide between Model Y and Model 3. I'm certain on the colour though.... It's red!
The default colour is white. Red is 2000 extra.
Thanks Patrycja. I knew you'd like the red. As Michael said, it's the most expensive option and looks like you have experience taste 😂
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Derek is there anybody in Ireland who does car wrapping? Pretty much every American reviewer says don’t waste your money on the red as the paint is shit quality , just buy the white and get it wrapped. A before and after of a Tesla would be very interesting to see.
Now there's an idea. I've seen some lovely Model 3 wraps around Dublin.
Y is definitely more practical and has a slightly higher driving position. A lot of people in the US are moving to Y from 3.
Nice love the car. I’m running out of time. I will try to get model 3 instead.
Thanks for the comment Yuriy, the model 3 is also a great car but if you really need the space.....the decision is yours
I will get more range. 😀😀😀
That too!
Option for 7 seats… with rear two “facing backwards” … the reviewer needs to read up a bit more on this model…
Thanks for the point of clarification Howard. I have added this to the description. I was thinking back to some concepts before it was officially released. The image obviously stuck in my mind www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-third-row-seat-test-video/
Thanks for another great review. I think you're right, it'll be the big seller over the next few years. It looks great in red. If I had the money, I'd go for the Jaguar, simply because it's a Jag, enough said.
Thanks for the comment Phillip. The I-Pace looks great and I'm dying to get my hands on one
While it looks very practical and the interior is great, it’s a bit bloated looking outside not a very nice look compared to the M3 which is much more svelte looking. Definitely more practical for families with that boot. I would much rather the looks of the EV 6 though.
Thanks for the comment J. EV6 looks great. I wonder how the sales will rack up for each.
Looks awesome but surely a car for
Potentially but time will tell Jared 🙂
Great car... I like the styling, the performance and range and especially the supercharging network. I am concerned that rock chips will really show up on that frontend... The interior is a bit spartan for that price point, and I personally I like a few more buttons, and a real dash.. but that could just be because that's what I am used to after over 30 years of driving.. I test drove the Modely Y performance a while ago and more recently the Model X, and that acceleration was amazing! This is the vehicle I am considering to replace my Chevy Bolt, when the time comes. If only the wait was not so long. I agree w/ you that Model Y will sell really well in Europe, once Giga Berlin starts putting out vehicles at a lower price point. Great review as always.
Thanks so much for the comment Rajeev. I know you can add clear vinyl apron to the front end for stone chips.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland - ok, you helped convince me.. I just placed an order for a Model Y long range… no telling when I’ll get it though.. probably August next year, assuming the Hertz purchase doesn’t delay things too much.
Nice car, shame about Tesla's lousy customer service ! Tesla Motors Ireland Ltd. screwed up the paperwork for the model 3 we had bought and paid for in full (€~64k) and are now refusing to honour the contract and demanding an extra €5,000 because they failed to apply for the E.V. grant in a timely manner.
Not only did they fail to provide the service they promised, but their customer service department have completely stonewalled us and refused to engage in any meaningful manner. It is absolutely clear to us that the company has zero regard for individual customers. Nice cars but truly dismal customer service !!
Sorry to hear this Gavin. Is there a legal case?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Tesla has deep pockets and lots of lawyers. Although we have a good case, and would win eventually, it would be a long and costly process to take them to court ourselves. I strongly suspect that we are not the only customer in Ireland that they have done this to, so I have reported the whole mess to the CCPC for them to investigate on behalf of Irish consumers. They can take enforcement action much more quickly on behalf of all affected customers in Ireland.
tesla model y price just increased
Thanks for the comment and I think this shows demand is high
No change in Irish pricing.
you said nothing about handling, brakes suspension, regen, efficiency and etc..
Thanks Roland, you are correct. Let me answer here for you. Handling is good even for such a heavy car. The low center of gravity is key here but you do feel the weight. Steering weight can be adjusted as it's fly by wire. Suspension is on the former side for me. Regen can also be adjusted via the center console. I'd like more adjustability with easier access such as pedals. Tesla's are the most efficient EVs out there. Hard to quantify this one as I only had the car for a few hours to review. I hope to get a RHD and take it on a longer road trip to report back
Not sure if the Model Y will be the best selling EV in Ireland, not at €70K . The best selling EV currently according to a quick Google is the Nissan Leaf at less than half the price of the Tesla and the best selling ICE car is the Hyundai Tuscon at €35K again half the price. Still if I got six numbers would seriously consider the Tesla.
I may have gotten too excited Brian...Thanks for the comment
The Teslas have great battery tech but the weird looks on this and the build quality are still put offs. I know people are sick of hearing about the quality issues but every time I see a Model 3 I'm always shocked at the panel gaps and paint defects. I'm an EV owner myself and I do respect what Tesla is doing but until they sort out the American cars (apparently the new Chinese cars are well made) I'll never pay for one.
Thanks for the comment Marcus. Respect to Tesla is correct but as you say, poor build quality may not be accepted now with some much more choice in the market.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Every time I see a Tesla in a video, I'd agree with the looks. In 'the real', however, the Model 3 is a great looking car and I'd assume this is no different.
Considering the range on these cars and the futuristic interior (a screen and that's it), I get impression that's why so many are buying them. Early adopters and those comfortable with change will run to these, those more conservative will stick with the legacy brands.
It's interesting to see the BMW/Mercedes/Audi equivalents all coming with larger batteries (sometimes more than 10% larger it appears and getting LESS range (sometimes by 10% or more), you'd think the legacy companies have a problem. Batteries are the expensive component and if Tesla is selling cars at same price with those smaller batteries, are the legacy makers making any money while Tesla makes a great profit now? When your company is built around not having to car around weight and gets bloated (i.e. the combustion engine era), it'll be interesting to see if the legacy makers can make the transition both in this regard of building cars to the requirements of electric, as well as in the software side of new vehicles that also appears to be critical. Realistically, Tesla is well on its way to becoming another mainstream brand, and there'll be room for many others of the 'old guard' as well as the incoming onslaught of Chinese companies. It'll be fun to watch this play out and see how many companies we lose, and new companies arrive, in the transition!
I'd have to agree EV Review, this car is going to sell like hot cakes in 2022.
The build quality ‘issues’ are mostly overblown. The people with issues shout the loudest. Most deliveries are perfect.
As for the other ‘legacy’ manufacturers being bloated and getting less range from same battery sizes, you just have to look at the ‘Munro Live’ RUclips tear down of the Model Y vs the Ford Mach-E. Tesla design is so simple and efficient. Ford in this example had so much more ‘infrastructure’ in the car to do the same job, but not as well. The air cooling system in particular was crazy.