YouTube ruined all my videos - UNLESS you change this setting...

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  • Опубликовано: 21 янв 2025

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  • @scotsam7590
    @scotsam7590 День назад +8

    Thanks very much for this Ian. I did not know about the YT change. Stable Volume was enabled when I first played your video. I COULD STILL hear the dynamic range in your example video, but when I disabled it, the range was greater. I can see and appreciate why YT introduced this feature. It's a good idea, but yes, you are right, a more obvious disable feature or default-off is needed.

  • @musicmaniac1949
    @musicmaniac1949 2 дня назад +10

    This is a serious problem for any RUclipsrs who serve our audio profession. I played this video and used my spl meter and, even though it is obvious to a blind man, there was roughly a 6db difference between the first and second examples. This is a huge difference and could effectively negate any benefits from audio videos. Thanks for this information.

    • @checktheneck
      @checktheneck День назад

      As a youtuber you can warn about this feature in your video and it won't be a problem

  • @vincepale
    @vincepale День назад +7

    OH wow, that sounds way better. I didn't realize Stable Volume was on, or how heavy the compression was.

  • @alpharisc
    @alpharisc День назад +3

    Stable volume was set to auto for this video on my TV but there was still a large difference with your example. Turning it off certainly made a difference but the dynamics was still similar. Thanks for the video would never have even seen it.

  • @unfa00
    @unfa00 День назад +3

    I suppose the compression is relatively simple because it is probably applied client-side.
    I hope YT will add controls for creators to disable this by default on their channel and allow for changing the default on a per-video basis. I have some taking head videos that I don't mind to be treated this way, but I generally do control the volume rather well on my own, and in videos where I teach sound design etc or test limiters... having this forced on for everyone watching is... suboptimal at best.

  • @fen3184
    @fen3184 2 дня назад +7

    I switched it off on mobile ages ago, but check the setting again every once in a while.
    Today, it was back on again... :(

  • @SilentKnightProductions
    @SilentKnightProductions День назад +1

    Wow! Thanks for finding this. What a difference! (It was "on" when I started watching your video. Kali UNF-LP monitors on my crappy work laptop via BT). Unless this can be set in the video at publishing, it looks like we're back to "master for the media" or adding pads and other noise to the production to mask dynamics changes, and we're back to the loudness wars.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      @@SilentKnightProductions I don’t think it’s that bad - remember this isn’t meant to be applied to music. I’m also hopeful they will allow us to get some control, hopefully sooner than later 🤞

  • @themagicianofsound
    @themagicianofsound 13 часов назад

    Thanks for informing us ! Another popular sound engineer on RUclips that I follow also talked about this. Obviously I disabled it but without videos like yours and the other one, I would have never seen this option !

  • @DonnDeVoreMusic
    @DonnDeVoreMusic День назад

    I had stable volume turned on and I could hear the difference in the video, it's similar to how radio and TV broadcast sounds with limiting. thanks for bringing awareness to this setting.

  • @makingmusiconline2309
    @makingmusiconline2309 Час назад

    Yep, I'm on desktop (and HD which I'm told improves sound quality) and stable volume was indeed on ... switched off now. Thank you, Ian! Just watched The Crow Hill company video explaining dynamic range in orchestration and orchestral plug-ins, and of course this stable volume was switched on while he was demonstrating it.

  • @Jim951cup
    @Jim951cup 2 дня назад

    Hey Ian,
    I’m not sure how the DRC works on desktop, but I can confirm that the loudness differences you pointed out in the 2:10-2:40 section are still present, even with "stable volume" enabled. However, in the second section (3:12-3:44), they’ve clearly been compensated through some kind of DRC.
    Whether I enable or disable "stable volume" on my end, the loudness differences remain where they’re supposed to, but they’re smoothed out in the second section. This suggests that whatever DRC RUclips is applying seems to happen on your end rather than on the listener’s end.
    This doesn’t make much sense to me, as it effectively renders the "stable volume" feature useless for the listener, but it’s what I’m observing here (Windows PC - RUclips in Google Chrome).

    • @Gw49172
      @Gw49172 2 дня назад

      Sorry to bud in here. I am sure someone will have an elaborate explanation... but...
      If the audio is printed with the drc issues in, then the compressor won't activate again as the volume has already been adjusted.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 дня назад +2

      @@Gw49172 I suspect there are two audio streams, one with & one without (see the way the video image switches off and on when you change the setting)
      In terms of this video the effect is likely to be more complicated though, since I’m incorporating audio with Stable Volume On into a new video with different material around it, and different overall loudness. So enabling it on *this* video will probably sound different again

    • @JimijaymesProductions
      @JimijaymesProductions День назад

      im toggling it right now and it totally changes the dynamics of his voice (which is higher in dynamic range), it is quite clear and not subtle. I have found on some videos stable volume doesn't do much or doesnt seem to be working, but when it is working it isn't subtle especially on production videos.

    • @Jim951cup
      @Jim951cup День назад

      ​@@JimijaymesProductions That’s really puzzling... Could you share your configuration (device, browser)? I just recorded the first 90 seconds of audio from this video, first with smart volume enabled and then with it disabled. I can confirm that there’s no change in dynamics whatsoever on my end. The only difference is in the overall loudness.
      Here are the measurements I got for this 90-second section:
      Smart volume enabled: -19.4 LUFS integrated / 3.9 LRA / -2 TPmax
      Smart volume disabled: -21.6 LUFS integrated / 3.9 LRA / -4.4 TPmax
      I’m really curious to understand why the system behaves differently on your end compared to mine. Any thoughts on that, Ian?

    • @JimijaymesProductions
      @JimijaymesProductions День назад

      @ I am just using Opera GX, I haven't done measurements and I am not sure about macro dynamics but definitely micro dynamics, Ive heard it mostly on videos where there is talking and music based audio, sounds like a multiband limiter has been strapped on the end. Give me a sec to do some measurements/recording and ill let you know, but to my ears its not subtle, the noisefloor comes up and the tail of consonants (especially in the low end) is louder but the transients aren't and when there is two audio sources, the quieter one gets louder.

  • @SR1B
    @SR1B 2 дня назад +7

    It’s not been added recently; it’s been there for quite a while, but nobody noticed because Google did not inform us.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 дня назад +1

      @@SR1B Right. I’ve known about it for a while and have been hoping they would turn it off by default or allow us to reject it for our channels, but no luck 😕
      Honestly when I first found out about it I was really relieved it didn’t apply to most music and disabled it - it never occurred to me that it would be affecting people watching my videos 🤦‍♂️

    • @SR1B
      @SR1B 2 дня назад

      @@ProductionAdvice Better late than never! 🙂 Maybe you should now add a note on your previous and future videos about that setting. Tedious but…

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      @@SR1B That’s the trouble, there’s no easy way to do that 😕 I can put a note in the description, but very few people read them…

    • @SR1B
      @SR1B День назад

      @@ProductionAdvice Maybe edit the thumbnails. And the titles. Tedious, but...

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +2

      @ Sorry, life’s too short - I’m just going to show this video to as many people as I possibly can 😛

  • @XtremeKremaTor
    @XtremeKremaTor День назад +7

    They should sort out super LOUD adverts

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      @@XtremeKremaTor That’s a common complaint, but in my testing the ads are also normalised to -14.
      RUclips doesn’t turn quieter material up though (without Stable Volume) so I think this happens when people crank up a quiet video (eg. anything at broadcast level, which is -23) and then the ads sound super-loud in comparison even though they’re “only” @ -14

    • @JamaicaWhiteMan
      @JamaicaWhiteMan День назад

      uBl*ck Orig*n.

    • @ConorHanley
      @ConorHanley День назад

      @@ProductionAdvice If I ever hear an ad I mute the volume loud or not and move onto another tab

    • @maximilianmustermann5763
      @maximilianmustermann5763 День назад

      @@ProductionAdvice Most videos on youtube, except for music videos, are way below -14. Even if the producer knows what their doing, a podcast or video with just speech won't necessarily sound the best at -14.
      I often end up 3 dB quieter when I just compress speech content by ear. But a lot of video producers don't know much about audio and their content will be at -20.
      A professionally produced commercial at -14 will then sound super loud.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      @ Fair comment - my podcast is also around -18. It’s a shame YT doesn’t use -16 for its Distribution Loudness as recommended by the AES - that would be a step in the right direction at least

  • @TMancusoMusic
    @TMancusoMusic День назад

    Thanks Ian - I had no idea about this one. You are correct in that it makes a BIG DIFFERENCE on this end when selected. Super helpful info, as per usual from your content.

  • @alwlferventdreams2651
    @alwlferventdreams2651 Час назад

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

  • @eudatux23
    @eudatux23 День назад

    I thought that this would just toggle the "loudness penalty" normalization to -14 LUFS, so I left it turned on, as normalizing is a good thing. Never thought that this is actually compression, thank you very much for sharing, I disabled it now!

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      Right - the normalisation still applies either way. Stable Volume will make things more consistent but at the price of extra artefacts

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga 2 дня назад +3

    They should allow you to turn it off for your whole channel, but youtube doesn't care about the problems they cause...

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      I think they do care, but their approach has always been “make a mess, then fix it… eventually”

    • @baddriversofcolga
      @baddriversofcolga День назад +1

      @ProductionAdvice Well, I hope they fix it then...

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      @@baddriversofcolga Same !

  • @juanchis.investigadorsonoro
    @juanchis.investigadorsonoro День назад

    I can confirm this was also on in Mexico on Android, iPad & Desktop. Thx Ian! And it has to disabled on each device separately.

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 2 дня назад

    Thanks Ian. Completely missed that. That means that the best way would be for all content creators to have a little intro „Please Disable Equal Loudness Feature“- followed by a short 10sec instructions video

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 дня назад

      @@saardean4481 I’ve thought about it ! But there’s no way to go back and add this to old videos, plus if RUclips do as I’m asking and allow us to opt out those intros will be redundant… tedious !

  • @blueslsd
    @blueslsd 6 часов назад +1

    Didn't realize the stable was on!!!!!

  • @genejas
    @genejas 2 дня назад +1

    The AGC algorithm they picked is also very aggressive

  • @maximilianmustermann5763
    @maximilianmustermann5763 День назад +1

    RUclips should stop doing stuff in the background that most people don't want. For example they also auto-translate English video titles to the language set in your browser. Not sure which videos they target, this video still has its original English title.

  • @nikolaki
    @nikolaki Час назад

    On my mobile device, it refuses to disable stable audio at all.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  Час назад

      Do you mean it's greyed out, or that it doesn't work ?

    • @nikolaki
      @nikolaki Час назад

      ​@ProductionAdvice it's now greyed out. A couple of weeks ago I could turn it off but it immediately flicked back on again.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  Час назад +1

      @@nikolaki Weird 😥 Is that on Android or iOS ? And is your app up to date ?

  • @ozzy3ml
    @ozzy3ml День назад

    Thanks for this! I was sure I'd disabled any auto dynamic stuff, but evidently not. Hope YT remembers the setting across videos?

  • @JimijaymesProductions
    @JimijaymesProductions День назад

    Its funny, for years people complained about YoutTube audio compression which never actually existed until now, they've made the complaints real. At least it's able to be turned off.

  • @TK-yu2pv
    @TK-yu2pv День назад

    This also demonstrates well how the last pop song is so utterly crushed and devoid of dynamics regardless of the settings. I hope that we don't need to disable this manually for every video. You would think that they would have at least given us global control over such a sweeping setting.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      @@TK-yu2pv I’m pretty sure the browser remembers the setting, so you only need to decide once 👍

    • @TK-yu2pv
      @TK-yu2pv День назад

      @@ProductionAdvice Thanks Ian.

    • @maximilianmustermann5763
      @maximilianmustermann5763 День назад

      It seems like once you turn it off, it stays off. At least for that one browser, maybe for your account (not sure).

  • @kevgresham8407
    @kevgresham8407 2 дня назад +3

    Thanks Ian ..It was new to me .

  • @dalebeachwood7265
    @dalebeachwood7265 2 дня назад

    Thanks for information Ian, turning this off makes all the difference for me.

  • @Kunibert_Knatter
    @Kunibert_Knatter 13 минут назад

    Agreed! And thanks for pointing this out.
    But on the other hand, I have to say honestly, that some videos really benefit from this setting. They are so poorly balanced, that the comprssion ought to be even stronger!
    Good to know, that I can now - at least temporarely - dis/enabling this setting. Unconvenient, but better like this, rather than getting an audio sauce.

  • @ConorHanley
    @ConorHanley День назад

    Ta, what we don't need is yet more compression in audio. Didn't know this was a thing in addition to whatever RUclips has been doing to audio for yonks.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      The irony is they haven't been doing much that affected the quality (bar the streaming codec) until recently. This is quite a big deal for some content, though.

  • @bengineer_the
    @bengineer_the День назад

    Thank you dearly for the heads up!

  • @AG-mz7vm
    @AG-mz7vm 2 дня назад +1

    Thank's for the heads-up!

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer День назад

    A data point for you: on this video, I checked - and Stable Volume was off already. Do you think it remembers my choice from other videos? Seems unlikely... However, also, I loaded a different video (from a science channel) and it was not only OFF but also disabled so I couldn't turn it on. There's more to this than meets the eye...

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      @@macronencer Thanks - in my testing when I turn it off it stays off for all videos, so I assume the setting is cookied per-browser, not per-video.
      And yes, Stable Volume is sometimes greyed out, but I’m not sure how the decision is made - music videos are the most obvious example, but the detection isn’t perfect - I’ve seen at least one music video, tagged as music, already mastered to -14, which still had SV as an option.
      So there’s a grey area in all this of “intent versus execution”

    • @macronencer
      @macronencer День назад

      @@ProductionAdvice Thanks Ian - yes, I guess it must be remembering my choices. Interesting about the greying out thing, because the science video I tested it on was mostly talking, but there's a long outro with music... maybe it picked up on that?

  • @matt_nyc_audioengineer
    @matt_nyc_audioengineer День назад

    Ya, I soon as I saw Stable Volume I immediately shut it off haha! In our world it does not help. Love your videos Ian but if I'm being honest I can't watch them often. I have Misophonia and mouth clicks drive me INSANE! Please treat them when editing your videos if you wouldn't mind. I'd be a loyal subriber and watch every video if you did! I have mouth clicks when I record myself too so no shade or anything. Not criticizing! You can't help it but you can treat it. I'd love if you did!

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад

      Sorry to hear that, I didn't know about Misophonia. I'll have a think about whether there's a way to improve this efficiently...

    • @matt_nyc_audioengineer
      @matt_nyc_audioengineer 21 час назад

      @@ProductionAdvice It's cool man and like I said, it's nothing you are doing wrong. I'm just more sensitive to that kind of stuff. I'm autistic and it's something a lot of autistic people deal with. I use iZotope RX Mouth DeClick and it always does the job! It lives on my vocal buss as the first plugin lol.

  • @mathumphreys
    @mathumphreys День назад

    Thanks for the heads up.

  • @bobrv8
    @bobrv8 День назад

    Thanks Ian. Will help to spread the word.

  • @bartvanmeulebroeck5002
    @bartvanmeulebroeck5002 2 дня назад +3

    Switched it off!

  • @StubertStudios
    @StubertStudios День назад

    Superb, well explained video. Thank you so much for pointing this out.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      @@StubertStudios Pleasure, glad it was useful !

    • @StubertStudios
      @StubertStudios День назад

      @@ProductionAdvice I shared your link on HSC as well

  • @mickstubbsguitar
    @mickstubbsguitar День назад

    Thanks Ian, very much appreciated.

  • @jazmanaut
    @jazmanaut День назад +1

    Wow, great info. Thanks!

  • @587583922
    @587583922 День назад

    Thanks for the heads up!

  • @ovonisamja8024
    @ovonisamja8024 2 дня назад

    Hmm… another important thing to keep in mind. If you’re not watching the video through their app on the phone (iphone at least), you can’t turn off the DRC feature. So if you’re on FB for example, and you just click the video without opening the YT app, the feature stays on. There’s no gear icon for settings displayed.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 дня назад

      @@ovonisamja8024 Interesting, I hadn’t tried that

  • @BassBusMusic
    @BassBusMusic 2 дня назад

    Perhaps that's something that @RUclips could put in as an option when uploading videos.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 дня назад

      @@BassBusMusic Something like that would be a good option, I think

  • @giabgr
    @giabgr День назад

    Not on by default for me.

  • @DubArchaeologist
    @DubArchaeologist 2 дня назад

    Haha. I got all the way through your examples then noticed it has appeared on my settings. I could still hear the difference. Switched it off. Much more difference. For me it must have been added very recently as I would have noticed it (desktop btw). Could be useful for listening to some of those lazy youtubers' who are not so good at balancing their audios from different sources. More edit - I'm confused now after a bit of a look around. Not all vids on a channel have it? Some of mine do and some of them don't for example.

    • @DubArchaeologist
      @DubArchaeologist 2 дня назад

      Sidenote: The switch remains off when i switch accounts.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      Yeah I think it's a browser cookie. Pretty sure it doesn't follow you across devices though

  • @markgriffiths5122
    @markgriffiths5122 2 дня назад

    thanks I've turned it off as I do watch a fair few videos on compressors etc. Even on "normal" videos, like news or TV clips it's making a big difference. With it on it seems alot louder and maybe shriller. It really should be an option when you create a video, but I can see my own music videos it's turned off even when it is on for other videos. Maybe that's because all my videos I allocated to the music category.

  • @MrSebify
    @MrSebify День назад

    Huge difference !

  • @foshizol
    @foshizol 2 дня назад

    I didn't know about this until your video. However, mine was already set to off.

  • @DonBernhard
    @DonBernhard День назад

    I suggest that perhaps you should add a short 10 seconds or so instruction at the beginning of each of your videos reminding or explaining the need to do it before the video continues.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  День назад +1

      @@DonBernhard Maybe, but there’s no way to go back and add this to old videos, plus if RUclips do as I’m asking and allow us to opt out those intros will be redundant… tedious !

  • @brianrichards3128
    @brianrichards3128 15 часов назад

    I only found out about this an hour before finding your video
    Good idea for “soft” videos: people who don’t understand what LUFS are but a very bad idea for the rest of us. I always master to -13 or -12.5 with -1 true peak and don’t mind being turned down 1/2 dB and sometimes not a t all. That’s fine for music but as you pointed out, a very bad idea for educational content

  • @OwnerOfTheCosmos
    @OwnerOfTheCosmos 14 часов назад

    4:48 "Even with Stable Volume disabled, ..." (You meant "enabled", I believe.)

  • @Ein-Stuck
    @Ein-Stuck День назад

    Wow!! great observation!!

  • @normalizedaudio2481
    @normalizedaudio2481 2 дня назад

    Check out his microphone placement.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 дня назад +1

      @@normalizedaudio2481 You mean mine ? What about it ?

  • @strone1
    @strone1 День назад

    thanks. would have never noticed this was on. yet another glorious "improvement" by youtube... :/

  • @HazeAnderson
    @HazeAnderson 5 часов назад

    RUclips is hellbent on destroying RUclips.

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  4 часа назад

      The trouble is presumably it improves the views (because content with extremely dynamic material will be easier to listen to) which in their eyes is a good thing 😕

  • @philhunter9134
    @philhunter9134 21 час назад

    Thanks!

  • @rawl747
    @rawl747 4 часа назад

    I tried to turn this setting off in the Android RUclips app on my Samsung tablet and it wouldn't turn off! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

    • @ProductionAdvice
      @ProductionAdvice  2 часа назад

      I just tried it on my son's Moto G - it worked but for some reason I had to do it twice...?!? Might be worth a try

  • @Sound-Lord
    @Sound-Lord День назад

    thanks

  • @FotisandStuff
    @FotisandStuff День назад

    Disabled it! Thank you!!

  • @c0ns1d1ne
    @c0ns1d1ne 7 часов назад

    Turniing that nonsense off right now. 😆

  • @helosbonos
    @helosbonos День назад

    Disabled! Thanks!

  • @Dani-El.
    @Dani-El. 2 дня назад +4

    RUclips worked best before Google bought it.
    They must have spent billions destroying this once wonderful platform.

    • @Mdjagg
      @Mdjagg День назад

      Theyve effectively demonetized so many creators that theyve likely made that money back