Yeah if a guy with a gun comes into my house, kicks me out, tells everyone now it's his, the police does nothing, and when I take him to court, the judge rules that we should just share MY house, I can't imagine me being okay with it either.
Don't forget the British watch 5.28 min. As we know they have done that in many countries. UN is nothing but representatives of the Western world. Which wants to rule the world and make everybody else dependent on them
The two-state solution has always just been a way to keep the Palestinians calm and sitting at the negotiation table while Israel continues to confiscate land and build settlements , and that is the two-state solution
There has Never been a Country called Palestine and there has never been a ethnic group of people called Palestinians and most people in Gaza have relatives in Egypt and most people in the west Bank have relatives in Jordan.
@@user-kb1rl5qy1k you are right , we all know that Scotty beamed them over from across the Galaxy after Israel was created , just so he can give them a hard time
But with delicious irony the Palestinians could've had everything they wanted, including Jerusalem as a shared capital, under the proposed 1947 UN partition plan! They listened to that rabid antisemite Amin al-Husseini and rejected it out-of-hand! They've suffered the consequences ever since!
And with that said, how can they have the holy land when they're devils committing every sinful act possible, they have reached the lowest of all lows. They don't seem to know the meaning of the word holy. And all this comes from their arrogance. When people or person is victimized how can they make mockery at others? The truth is they are not really intelligent, they does what they does because they have backups and whatever means of their own. Their arrogance is peaking at high decibels and somewhere in time they will come crashing down, to every beginning there is an end.
What about the tens of thousands of Jews who were expelled by the Arabs after 1948 from neighboring countries in North Africa and the Middle East and their homes and lands were taken? By your logic, Egyptians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Tunisians, Libyans and Iranians are all sqautters? Instead of protesting here, ask your government to take in the Palestinians just like these expelled Jews were assimilated into their society by the Israelis.
@@gandydancer9710are you kidding ? 16000 children and 30 thousand women and children , for me I’m not a hamas member but my company and my home israel bombed it , if it is not a genocide then tell me what is it ?
They don't. There are roads that cannot be used with Palestinian license plates, but Palestinians can get Israeli license plates, and in fact many have them.
Well if Palestinians kept their hands to themselves that wouldn't happen. and fyi it's Israelis who is can't use Palestine roads for fear of being murdered but those Palestine terrorists use both roads without any harm then you wonder who is really the oppressor.
@@Funnyyah You're an imbecile. You speak as if Palestinians appeared out of nowhere to torment Israelis. It's a fact that Palestinians are descendants of Ancient Judaeans who chose to settle, then convert to Islam and Christianity. European Jews only have 2% DNA of ancient Judaeans. Which is why Israel was almost created in Uganda and changed at the last moment. GTFOH YOU CLOWN
In 1993, the USA played a role in aiding Israel, fully aware from the beginning that Israel would never recognize a Palestinian state. Now, in 2024, there have been no negotiations, yet the USA continues to veto any recognition of Palestine, justifying this by claiming that negotiations-which ended over 20 years ago-must be respected.
the US loses its status of the worlds superpower when it comes to Israel. they become clows that have no idea what to do and look weak in a blink of an eye. The US Cannot be apart of negotiations between the two sides since it follows the Rules of AIPAC. If Israel want to continue to be on the map then it has to give the idea of its Jewish Supremacy and the ideoligy of Zionism
That's the point, they didn't, they just locked them like animals in zoo, and then Palestinians attacked to take THEIR lands, Israel started killing innocent people. Israel already killed 30000 people, and hamas killed only 1400 (I condemn hamas for what they did, but Israel much worse than hamas)
@@user-vf6nn6hx9x Nice (and worn out) try; Israel is defined as both Jewish and Democratic. As the national homeland of the Jewish people but not as a Jewish-only state. As 21% of it’s citizens will testify. Next.
Its so painful to see such injustice against the Palestinian people going on for decades. The current world leaders should be ashamed of themselves. Insha Allah Palestine will be free in my lifetime. ✊🏼
The two state nonsense must be forgotten permanently. Only a single integrated state with equal rights to all of its people is feasable. Whether the integrated state is called Israel, palestine or any other name is irrelevant. Peace will only be achieved when all the citizens of that land are treated with dignity and respect and the oppressed people are allowed to progress, contribute and benefit from the state they live in.
big problem is tha Arabs are completely unfammiliar with that. ´democracy, civil rights, freedom of speech are completely foreign words for them. That is why countries like Syria, Iraq , Lebanon that are formally republics function are hereditary absolute monarchies.
The Zionist are racists. They will not allow what you are suggesting. "...Zionism... is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state..." - wiki - United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination" Zionists are Jewish Supremacists.
There is no Israel. It doesn't have the right to exist. Might does not make right and seizing land by force doesn't make it yours. A biblical claim to a land that has nothing to do with you doesn't make it yours. Occupation and atrocities committed over decades bars you from ever having a claim to a land that has thoroughly rejected your foreign presence. There is no Israel, only Palestine and it belongs to the Palestinians be they Muslim, Christian, or Jew.
Do the roughly 1 million Jews who were kicked out of Arab and Muslim states in 1948 also have a right to return? Those Jews had nothing to do with the war or Israel aside from being Jewish, and yet they were kicked out. The Arabs who wanted to stay in Israel did so. They enjoy equal rights and live productive and far better lives than the Arabs in either Gaza, West Bank or most other Arab countries. Yet the innocent Jews in Arab countries were all kicked out.
We can take it further and ask, do the millions of folks in Pakistan have a right to return to India and vice versa? Or the almost 1 million Germans expelled from Poland after WWII or Poles expelled from Germany during the war. The list can go on with millions upon millions, but only the Palestinians are stuck on this right to return.
Don't you understand? Ethnic cleansing should not be tolerated. Unless, of course, it is Jews who are ethnically cleansed. And that's what people are saying should be done in Judea and Samaria because, you know JUDaism has no connection to that land, right? What the world is saying is that the "Palestinians" who self-exiled themselves pre-1948 war should be allowed to terrorize Jews and Israel forever until they get back "their" land (that they never owned, for a people that never existed). But imagine if every descendant of a Holocaust survivor went back to Germany and Poland and Hungary and the Czech Republic, etc. and terrorized and brutalized the people there now living on land in the homes stolen from their grandparents and great grandparents. You think the world would say that those Jews have a right of return? Of course not. Triple standard when it comes to Jews. All because the world is jealous that, despite how the world has treated our people for thousands of years, we are still the most successful people on the planet.
Actualy all you say here is simply not true. The jewish peolpe were not ”expeled” from any aram or muslim state. There are jews even in Iran today, nobody expels them. But many jews chosed to live some contries to populate the ”promissed land”. The arabs who wanted to stay in Israel couldn't stay there because theyr homes were simply demolished and created new setlements only for the jwes.
@@robydragu6705 You're making things up. Around 1947-48, there were around 900,000 Jews in the Arab middle east. Today there are under 10,000 and most of the Jews were ethnically cleansed out of the middle east before 1960. These are facts. Country 1948 Today Libya 38,000 0 Iraq 150,000 0 Syria 30,000 0 Egypt 75-100,000 under FIVE Yemen 6,300 under 50 Morocco 265,000 under 2000 Iran 100-125,000 8,700 (the most) The notion that nobody expelled Jews is beyond ridiculous. It was the very definition of ethnic cleansing, which apparently is not acceptable to anyone unless those being ethnically cleansed are Jews. And don't think for a second that the Jews in Iran (who will soon die out) are treated as anything other than third class citizens. By contrast, the vast majority of the approximately 700,000 Arabs who left what became Israel did so before the 1948 war at the behest of the Arabs before they attacked Israel, who told them "don't worry, we will destroy them and you will be back there in a few weeks." Oops. Facts are important. Learn them even if you don't like them.
I'm atheist, but this makes the most sense, and there needs to be a minimum of a newly established parliament. Comprised evenly of people from each peoples. I know this wouldn't entirely be the solution because you'll always have the RW Israeli and even moderates, probably with jealousy and resentment, for no longer being that dictatorial hand over the lives of Palestinians, but this would hopefully put them somewhat in their place.
Because Bantustans and Balkanization never work 🤷🏻♀️ simple as that. There’s a big difference between a decentralized confederacy, and tiny nation-states battling for traditional territories at each other’s borders.
The current arrangement is already a 1-state (but not a 1-state solution) for both jews and palestinians. It is an israeli apartheid state >> which everyone can see plainly. The next 1-state (and a true 1-state solution) has to be based on equal rights with no exceptions for both the israelis and the palestinians. Otherwise it is the zionists who need to find a new home.
The next state needs to be a palestinian state, and THEY get to decide who has which rights. Us telling them what should happen there is how this whole shit show started.
The Palestinian Right to Return is enshrined in International Law. It can never be voted away or dismissed by any agreement without the full consent of the refugees and their descendants. Any agreement that ignores it has and will fail.
No, we do not ignore international law. Refugees from Europe should be able to go back and refugees displaced from Palestine should be able to go back to all of Palestine.
Yup, it's promoting ridiculous ideas like that which makes solving this issue impossible. What the heck are those UN clowns even thinking. Seriously, do they actually expect Israel to let in 5 million people who descend from a refugee from 75 years ago who now live elsewere.
Many Arabs told fellow Muslims to leave prior to the war of Independence thinking they would win in 1948 and resettle. They lost the war they started. Consequences exist.
They shouldn't have had to fight that war in the first place. Israel was constructed out of British colonialism, and has no right to exist in its current form.
My gmail account got deleted by youtube moderation that's insane! over pro palestinian sentiments im not kiddin im even scared to talk my mind right now. be careful with what you say online guys! stay safe!
@@4T3hM4kr0n well i can't prove it beyond my word sorry. my only evidence is the chain of events that got my google account deleted, just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it didn't happen to me. i can pinpoint exactly the moment it happened but everything my account has ever done is deleted for some reason. i saw a video about that blonde jewish woman talking about Pal being an ideology and the hipocrisy of it.
You're assuming that "WW2" was more than a d!ck measuring competition between colonizers. It had nothing to do with morality or justice. One colonizers beat out another colonizer and history tells the result of that conflict.
Look at the history of Manifest Destiny. Settlers pushing further and further into the frontier, displacing its inhabitants and ignoring their government's official treaties until the government annexed the new land. Reservations growing smaller and smaller to feed the appetite of the colonial power. The former inhabitants demoted to second class citizens living under apartheid. Israel takes after the US in the worst ways.
I’d be careful drawing comparisons with WW2… you might let it slip that Palestinian leadership was EXTREMELY friendly with the nazi party for almost two decades. Or that after the war, Amin Al-husseini was extremely eager to continue his buddy hitler’s scourge against Jews regardless of their affinity for Zionism. I’ll say that again; Palestine was led by a literal nazi from 1948-1953. I think it’s safe to say a welcoming culture wasn’t exactly on the Palestinian priority list when Jews began flooding the area.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
And that on Oct.7, the current Palestinian leadership, ruling in the only place which wasn't under occupation, had declared war against the Israeli people -- every man, woman and child.
@@chaselevinson7950 This is generally an attempt to view the history objectively, but from an Arab POV. There are many examples: - Stating that the British had encouraged Jewish immigration (ignoring "the White Book"); - Ignoring the Arab rejection of the Peel commission's offer in 1937 (which let them have 80% of the area); - Assuming as an axiom that all displaced people should return to their original location, as a precondition to any settlement. (Then what about the Pakistanis who fled India in 1947, or the Greek who lost Anatalya in 1923, etc., etc?) The last point especially is the main reason why at every turn, Palestinians had always insisted on an "All or Nothing" solution, usually ending up with nothing.
@@amos083 Were you born on oct 7? In 2014 for example, over 2k Palestinians were killed by IDF ( I devour food). With is much more than the ones on oct 7. Oct 7 was a response to 76 years of oppression.
Ugh. Just another sad attempt to defend the indefensible. Hunting down and killing a 1,000 Jews - - for being Jews - - on a sunny Saturday in October is NOT the answer. . . . nor is that a commitment to non-violence - - which is the essence of PEACE. . . . nor is it merciful or beneficent. Reverse the 3 “No’s” of Khartoum and say YES to Peace, Recognition and Negotiations - - in good faith. The Palestinians are one generation away from being the most happy and prosperous Arabs in the Middle East (sans oil). . . . but alas, there are far, far too many who choose to live in resentment, self - pity and the delusion of reversing the irreversible losses of ‘48 and ‘67. It is time for true peace and reconciliation by doing the hard work of building a Palestinian State upon the principles of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights - - that simultaneously upholds the security of the sovereign State of Israel. . . . your true brothers and sisters in humanity. Peace
Palestine is the Roman name given to Israel in 137 AD. No one was calling themselves 'Palestinian' before 1964. My eldest sister is older than the invented 'Palestinian' ethnic group. They have an Arab flag, speak Arabic, have Arabic names, worship an Arab sky genie ..... they are Arabs. They started to butcher their way into Judea 1400 years ago and built one of Satan's palaces on top of the most holy Jewish site.
Where should people like myself and the other 46% of Israeli population who all fled from Muslim countries and prosecution go??? You’re ignorant of reality
There is no discrimination against non-jewish Israeli citizens, the discrimination is against non-jewish non-citizens living in land Israel controls. Since 1967 Israel holds land that it does not formally annex, and the people living there are subject to restrictions on where they can build homes, where they can go etc in accordance to Israeli laws, while not having the rights all citizens should have.
@@projekcja _Since 1967 Israel holds land that it does not formally annex_ Exactly so. What a crime that Jordan stole the West Bank from the Palestinians in 1948. The Arabs in Jordan had 20 years to give the Arabs in the West Bank a state of their own, but instead they occupied it and then lost it by foolishly choosing war in 1967.
@@projekcja I specifically reffered to that part in the video that says Israel discriminates non-jewis citizens. so, you want non-citizens to have the same rights as citizens? especially when most of that population doesn't even want to be a part of the state, even when offered citizenship? moreover, constantly carrying out terror attacks against citizens and tourists alike? it's not like they aren't citizens, they are just not Israeli citizens. they are citizens of the PLO. so makes each group lives under a different set of rules. areas A and B is under control of the PLO, while area C is a mixed area where the PLO is responsible for it's citizens and Israel is responsible for theirs. tell me what is your solution.
@@BS-vx8dg Jordan did not steal the West bank from the Palestinians in 1948, it took the West bank from the British, as the British peacefully withdrew, allowing them to take control. Jordan then ethnically cleansed the West bank from Jews that have lived there: in the old city of Jerusalem there were thousands of jews that lived there for over a thousand years and Jordan expelled all of them. They only got to return 18 years later in 1967.
@@projekcja " _Jordan did not steal the West bank from the Palestinians in 1948, it took the West bank from the British_ ". With respect, you are mistaken. The British did not have the West Bank (or any of Palesstine) "taken" from them, they gave it up and put the UN in charge. The UN decided to split the territory between the Jews and the Arabs that we now call Palestinians. The land that Jordan occupied in 1948 was land that the UN had designated for the Arab state. Therefore the Jordanians stole the land that rightfully belonged to the Arab Palestinians. Your detour into what Jordan actually _did_ with the West Bank is not relevant to the point I was making, that the West Bank was not Jordan's to begin with (and of course the same can be said of Egypt and Gaza).
The arabs rejected the partitian plan of the UN and started a war on Israel in 1948. They lost the war and still didn't create a palastinian state. They waited for an opportunity to attack Israel again and destroy it. In 1968 the arabs thought this opportunity had come. They again lost the war. So the arabs are to blame for the fact that there is no palastinian state.
The treaty that marked the end of the Ottoman Empire's control over Palestine after World War I was the Treaty of Sèvres, signed in 1920, which officially dissolved the Ottoman Empire and CEDED large parts of its territory, including Palestine, to the Allied powers like Britain and France as League of Nations mandates; essentially placing Palestine under British control.
Number of Arab Muslims living as full citizens in Israel? Approximately 2.5million. Number of Jews living as full citizens in majority Muslim countries? Approaching if not actually reaching zero. “Expelled”. You keep using that word but I do not think you know what it means.
Maybe the settlements should be vacated and the Palestinians, mainly from Gaza, moved into the empty houses. along with a strip of land connecting them to the sea bordering Lebanon. Those houses are currently vacant anyway. But wider. Also the Golan Heights would be no longer annexed by Israel.
I disagree. Just because Israeli settlements were built around West Bank during the decades doesn’t mean they can’t leave. Germany lost 20% of their territory to Poland after WWII.
The British government massively limited the number of jews who could go to Palestine to prevent this problem, the predecessor to the IDF, Hagganah actually became powerful from illegally smuggling European jews into Palestine, the British government at one point was fighting alongside the arabs against jewish rebels. Hagganah was funded primarily by America, America created this problem, Britain did not.
I thought it was British Baron Rothschild who petitioned the British government to move the British Zionist into Palestine with the Balfour Agreement 1917?
I wish it was possible, but it would not be the utopia many think it would be. First, we are talking about two populations that have been at each other's throats for decades; they can't just coexist with a snap of a finger. Second, although there are extremists on both sides, there is no denying that the extremists on the Palestinian side have the more extreme goal of literally killing every Jew. How do you get them to coexist? Third, the neighbourhood, i.e., the Middle East, is not conducive to a stable democracy, and typically, democracies thrive when surrounded by other democracies. Here, this utopian One-state solution would be surrounded by countries who, for various reasons, don't want this to work out (Iran would be the biggest problem with the help of its proxies.)
One state solution would be extremely difficult as well because there will inevitably be segregation and discrimination within the country. Basically apartheid without the current big walls. The land stealing will continue, the bullying will continue, settler violence will continue, Palestinians' livelihood will be hell-like. I cannot see these 2 populations living together peacefully.
@@politicas3361 Many Palestinians descended from Jews and Canaanites. Also, it was Muslims and Omar (RAA) who helped Jews return to Jerusalem after kicking out the Romans, and here's a cancer reverse begging for Dajjal arriving sooner.
The Palestinian Authority had many opportunities to establish its state next to Israel, but chose conflict each time. It's too late now. Maybe five autonomous areas within Israel are possible, but if not negotiated for now, that opportunity will be gone forever too.
Thank you for everything you do..thank you for being brave. I could never visit Palestine since Israel is occupying and terrorizing that area. Its sad and i hope one day we can see a free Palestine and maybe one day ill be able to visit and not think that i am going to be killed.
It's a license to steal land, that is all. Imagine being a middle-class European or American, paying up to 50% in taxes while working more hours than the global average for a mediocre life. Then one day, an outreach from the local religious institution tells you, you can move to a place where you'll have your own house, own land, pay extremely low taxes, education and healthcare would be free and you'd be granted citizenship on arrival. I mean which Westerner wouldn't take that deal?
Ive been thinking the same… thieves don’t respect borders, armed and violent illegal settlers don’t agree to get along. Decades of their feral behaviour have demonstrated this, reasonable societies don’t commit genocide on their neighbours.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
@@Comments1-vc8jg That’s too funny… You know it is 76 years , yet your comment is attempting to justify theft, illegal and armed feral violent occupation? Brutal apartheid system and full intent Genocide? That is a zionazi excuse. And another characteristic of zees is: to claim /steal even the victimhood from their actual victims. 76 years of victimhood …. they have right to defend themselves against 76 years of oppressors , usurpers and they have right to self-determination. Go ask a normal sane human about that.
Double standards are a constant evil in the world and there will never ever be peace with double standards. Sensible minded people can reason away from double standards but the dull of mind never will. Do unto other as you would have them do unto you.
There have been several instances where proposals for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict were not accepted by Palestinian leadership: 1. The British Peel Commission's 1937 partition plan, which suggested creating separate Jewish and Arab states, was not accepted by Palestinian leader Hajj Amin Husseini. 2. In November 1947, the UN proposed a partition plan to establish two states - one Jewish and one Arab. This plan was not accepted by Palestinian leaders. 3. At the Camp David Summit in 2000, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat did not accept the peace proposal presented. 4. In 2008, a comprehensive peace proposal from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was not accepted by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. 5. In recent years, Palestinian leaders expressed opposition to the Trump administration's Middle East peace plan, referred to as the "Deal of the Century," even before its details were fully disclosed. These instances suggest that over the decades, various proposals for a two-state solution have not been embraced by Palestinian leadership.
A very interesting 53 year gap inbetween when the israeli state was made by the British and the newer deals in the year 2000. Is it that wierd that the Palestinian leaders said no in the early 1900, when an outside power (the British) comes to your land and "asks" that you give up a significant amount of it because they felt like it? Seems like quite the bargain to me.
That’s because Jews just robbed them out of their land, if I were in that position I would want my land back, not split it with the thief who broke into my home.
You conveniently forgot to mention that the British gave away 70% of “palestine” to create Jordan. But let’s focus on the Jews who got 10% of their ancestral homeland back (which you also conveniently don’t mention, that Jews are the indigenous people of the land; they were there thousands of years before Arabs invented Mohammed.)
Ever care to ask Palestinian Arabs what they want? It’s not a two state solution. You also neglect to mention who started the wars in 47-48 that preceded the Nakba.
@@AuthorMT0 Really Notice Your Ignorance : Because the Arabs rejected their other half, Palestine was never born. The creation of the state of Israel was not well received in the region. In May 1948, forces from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Lebanon invade, leading to the first in a series of Arab-Israeli wars. In 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egypt and Syria, which began the Six-Day War. Israel has since occupied the West Bank, Arab East Jerusalem (which was, at the time, Jordanian territory) and the Golan Heights, in Syria. Study and stop being stupid 😂
@AuthorMT0 war had already broken out in '48. And the neighbors didn't get involved for the sake of Palestinian Arabs. They made successful land grabs in the south and east.
@@boatbutch plan dalet started 6 months before the first arab army entered palastine, plan dalet started on march 1948, arabs joined the war to stop plan dalet and the ethn!c cleans!ng on September 1948 For Example deir yassin massacre happened on 9th of april 1948, and so on.. Arabs joined the war unprepared their countries didn't have real armies most arab countries had their independence in the 1960th, and the countries that joined the war had their independence 2 years before the event they didn't have any military, the only country with a semi professional army was egypt, they only sent volunteer troops... It is funny because israel army combatants were double the arab army number combined!!! They had superior logistics, they didn't have to cross large desert like the sinai desert, and they had more important factor a unified command center. While arabs fought under multiple countries and factions... Of course the rescue army lost which is logical.
@@AuthorMT0hostilities began when Palestinian Arabs ambushed Jewish civilians in Lod in November '47. I'm not sure what Arab military competence matters though I will point out that the Arab Legion was led by a British veteran of two world wars. Do you really believe a "Palestine" would have emerged out of Israeli defeat in '48? Certainly not what happened in the territory the Arab armies did capture. How many Jews would be left in the region if they had lost?
during world war II the US Air Force had to pay Ford Motors for damages to Ford's factory in germany during the many bombing campaigns against the german arm's industry. So you are probably on to something
The Ottoman Empire was previously the owner of this land, not the so called “Palestinians”. The Jews will never allow a majority of people to either gain control in Israel OR live this close to them in an actual state-as the governing groups in these areas have clearly stated that they will never accept a Jewish state to exist. Hence, Israel will continue to do what it is doing.
The only way this'll work is if you literally split the land in 2. Not this gibberish, nonsensical 'split' where you scatter millions of Palestinians across 22% of their own land. And this will never happen bc Israel will never allow it. Hence, there is no '2 state solution'. 💔
Yep, it starts before WWl. It's insane. I was a staunch Israel supporter. One day things just started not adding up. I started asking questions and doing research. I was appalled at what I found. I couldn't believe how blind I was.
@@RobPires Whatever narrative you pick to deny the virulent anti-semitism that is prevalent in much of the Arab world. Hundreds of thousand Jews leaving places they have been living in for generations - because zionism? Grow up guy.
@@RobPiresprosecution on the Arab countries is what drove them to Israel and I’m speaking from a place of 6 family members of mine were murdered as well as the authorities took all of their properties. So when moving to Israel the fled with NOTHING
Either split the country in two properly, with a straight line or border down the middle, or it must become a secular state! A state that does not consider any religion as an official religion. A state that would treat all its citizens fairly and equally, regardless of their religion.
@@BebsDotter The current state of Israel is already secular. They even treat Muhammadist better than Christians & Jews. Look up the status quo of Temple Mount which is a very special place for Christians & Jews yet they can’t pray openly there, only the Muhammadist can. BTW the Muhammadist stole that land in the 7th century similar to the Europeans stealing America. So if anyone is occupying stolen land it’s them.
@@Marsfi16 Sounds like you just don’t understand meaning of secular state Pal!! The term secular state actually describes a state that is officially neutral in matters of religion… that is NOT Israhell!
>calls a video misleading >doesn't explain why its misleading >doesn't read the sources document that they provide to support their claim >doesn't give evidence on why the video is misleading you are not making an argument, you are just voicing emotions.
Negotiations continued after the Oslo Accord. Sharon even shut down settlements in Gaza and withdrew. But Netanyahu and the settler parties went their own direction. And Hamas seized control over Gaza. For the last decade, it's the extremes in both communities that have unfortunately been running the show. One hopes that condition does not last much longer, that both sides tire of bloodshed and get back to the negotiating table.
just another propaganda against Israel, this is what this video is about. Jewish people lived on this land for about 6000 years, it was never such think as Palestinian state.
I would argue that Israel is not subsidizing the settlements. The settlements would not be possible without the funds and military support provided by the United States. Without the monetary support, military assistance, and diplomatic cover provided by the United States, Israel would likely have had to negotiate a 2 state solution decades ago. The situation now mirrors that of the American Indians in the 1800s. Make treaties, drive them unto reservations, break the treaties, make them walk during the winter to another reservation hundreds of miles distant, starve the survivors, try to pacify any resistance to being constantly persecuted........ sound familiar?
When Nazi Germany ended its occupation of Norway in May, 1945, it wasn't called a "two state solution". It was called an end to the occupation. The phrase "two state solution" makes it seem like there are two equal parties fighting over a piece of land they both have the right to, which is incorrect. Israel is a colonial project and according to an ICJ ruling, the occupation of the OPT is illegal under international law.
@@Sufganiyot There are a lot of parallels, but that's not even what I'm arguing here. My argument is that it is very problematic that we're talking about creating a "two state solution" when Israel is illegally occupying land.
The palestinans were offered 99% of the west bank and Gaza in 7 different occasions in the last 40 years. They always said no and reacted with violenece and terrorism. They dont want to live along side of Israel, they want Israel destruction. You dont believe me? Then ask a palestinian yourself and you'll see. On the contrary, If you were propose a palestinian state living peacefully along side israel the vast majority would say YES, but they all know such an indipendent state will create a scenario similar to Gaza #2, a state that promotes terrorism and violence less than 5 km from Israel main cities and populated areas. No one wants to test this.
I never actually understood why a two state solution must entail that Israel will evacuate the settlements. Just make the settlers give up their citizenship, as they are living outside of israel's borders.
There is a one state solution. Gaza rejoins Egypt and the PA West Bank rejoins Jordan. Let them deal with the security mess and leave the Israelis alone.
@@ArthurMaltson the double standard is so dumb, palestine for palestinians and no one bats an eye, but say france for the french and you're labelled a neo-natsi by everyone.
Something no one ever mentions is, when Britain first took over the Mandate, Palestine and Trans-Jordan were together, but soon separated by the British into two areas, the mandate was partially to create a Jewish Homeland in Israel, to fulfill its promises to the Jews, and Trans-Jordan was to fulfill its promises to the Arabs. There you have it a TWO state solution.
It should be noted that partitioning & separation between different cultures were the norm in most countries, especially Western countries until the 1960s. Palestine, India-Pakistan-Bangladesh, apartheid South Africa, segregation in the US, etc. Im just glad that most of the world has moved beyond this stupid notion.
She forgot to tell that al the Arab countries attack Israel after Israel was founded, and a lot of Arabs still could stay in Israel after the war. Until now 2 million Arabs live in Israel with an Israeli pasport, So the so could "Nakba" was not a disaster for all Arabs living in Palestine.
I like how the issue of the "Nakba" is always played. Aggressor claiming victim. Palestinians + Arabs started a war and lost. And the resulting displacement (no genocide involved even though Israel had the capacity to commit same) is now being attributed to Israel?? Most of those displaced decided willingly to leave rather than stay and accept Israel citizenship. We are seeing the exact same thing in 2023/2024. Start a violent war, then expect law and diplomacy to prevail. If there must be peace, law must be upheld by ALL parties. If you stand behind ICJ and UN rulings, then you must also abide by International law, not attacking in 1948 and 2023 and taking hostages. Can't eat your cake amd have it. Sow violence reap violence. That's the basic truth.
@@janvanruth3485 Yes. This was a war crime within the civil war that the Arabs started. There were also other massacres before and after this against Jews too. No side is innocent in any war . My point is that the war started following the announcement of the partition by UN in 1947. After this massacre against Palestinians other massacres were perpetrated by Palestinians too. History cannot be isolated. I can send a list of pogroms against Israel in the middle east but that's not my point. My point is that alot has happened historically on both sides and this silly aggressor versus oppressed narrative is not the solution. The way forward is level headed diplomacy and unbiased resolution
Very one-sided story - again. She "forgot" the "right of return" of the Palestinian "refugees" to ISRAEL. That's why the peace process collapsed in 2000 at Camp David. For Arafat there was only an option for a certain two state solution: palestinian state and a temporary jewish state filled later by 5-10 million arab muslim "refugees". Resolution: 1 palestinian arab muslim state. Do you still wonder why the peace process is dead?
Yeah if a guy with a gun comes into my house, kicks me out, tells everyone now it's his, the police does nothing, and when I take him to court, the judge rules that we should just share MY house, I can't imagine me being okay with it either.
@@finding13emo just like UK..they want muslims out bec they are terrorizing the country..
Super well said!!
Now you know how the Indians feel.
I hope Palestine will be free inshallah
Of course. Other than 3000 years of history, Jews has nothing to do with this land
They have been doing this all the years by the US support.
@@Rookiemi defending themselves?
+ France support too.
Don't forget the British watch 5.28 min. As we know they have done that in many countries. UN is nothing but representatives of the Western world. Which wants to rule the world and make everybody else dependent on them
@@eriksonywall western government and people support the apartheid genocidal fake state
And then the US portrays itself as a protector of the Democracy all around the globe.
The two-state solution has always just been a way to keep the Palestinians calm and sitting at the negotiation table while Israel continues to confiscate land and build settlements , and that is the two-state solution
There has Never been a Country called Palestine and there has never been a ethnic group of people called Palestinians and most people in Gaza have relatives in Egypt and most people in the west Bank have relatives in Jordan.
@@user-kb1rl5qy1k you are right , we all know that Scotty beamed them over from across the Galaxy after Israel was created , just so he can give them a hard time
@@omarjassar4650 So you are saying Muslims are Arabic speaking Aliens and Allah is probably the leader of the Borg.
@@user-kb1rl5qy1k you f little liar 😂
But with delicious irony the Palestinians could've had everything they wanted, including Jerusalem as a shared capital, under the proposed 1947 UN partition plan! They listened to that rabid antisemite Amin al-Husseini and rejected it out-of-hand! They've suffered the consequences ever since!
"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine." - Ilan Pappé
And with that said, how can they have the holy land when they're devils committing every sinful act possible, they have reached the lowest of all lows. They don't seem to know the meaning of the word holy. And all this comes from their arrogance. When people or person is victimized how can they make mockery at others? The truth is they are not really intelligent, they does what they does because they have backups and whatever means of their own. Their arrogance is peaking at high decibels and somewhere in time they will come crashing down, to every beginning there is an end.
Good thing Ilan pappe doesn't know much about the country he left behind. Most polls only say 11% of Israelis don't believe in a God.
Most Islamists believe in flying donkeys. That would be only half as bad if they also didn't believe in 'hating thy neighbors'.
@@succatashdefinitely, completely dishonest
Succiently expressed.
"If I don’t steal your home, someone else will." - Yaakov, Israeli Settler
Yaakov is from New York, so Yaakov, American settler
Too late now.
you mean jacob from brooklyn
It's jacob.
@@he_is_a_GOOBER_dont_disrespect Arafat was from Cairo.
Dear bots, it's been 11 months now.
People know the truth 😂
Better to call the unwelcome settler what they are: squatters
Larcenous, murderous, barbaric, and racist squatters.
What about the tens of thousands of Jews who were expelled by the Arabs after 1948 from neighboring countries in North Africa and the Middle East and their homes and lands were taken? By your logic, Egyptians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Tunisians, Libyans and Iranians are all sqautters? Instead of protesting here, ask your government to take in the Palestinians just like these expelled Jews were assimilated into their society by the Israelis.
squatters don't kick you out of your home or destroy it while they hold you at gunpoint.
Squatters live in houses that are empty.
They are terrorists not settlers.
@@nenadvojinovic7913 All settlers are terrorists. Not all terrorists are settlers.
It seems that human rights does not apply to Palestinians... This is injustice and this is genocide....
It is not genocide. And justice for homicidal Arabs is not really what you want, is it?
@@gandydancer9710 Yes yes in your dream land arabs hate Jews just because they exist. Be quiet pls
Not everyone one are a not zi like yoh @@gandydancer9710
@@tartarus31 LOL! Calling me a name is SUCH a convoncing argument.
@@gandydancer9710are you kidding ? 16000 children and 30 thousand women and children , for me I’m not a hamas member but my company and my home israel bombed it , if it is not a genocide then tell me what is it ?
76 years of injustice
Yes injustice meted out to Israel and Jews by the violent Arab terrorists
Keep crying.
@@batahmuddas429 cry more
@@dannyarcher6370 no one is crying here except you
@@ilyas_elouchihi lmao, jal Jazeera has been crying nonstop for the past 10 months 😂😂. Nothing will be able to stop Israel
🍉✊"If the Olive Trees knew the hands that planted them, Their Oil would become Tears." Mahmoud Darwish🍉🤲✊
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Speaking of..."where olive trees weep" is a must-watch documentary too
The Olive trees are mentioned many times in the Hebrew Bible. The people who wrote the Bible were NOT the fakestinian imposters.
yea now he enjoys 72 virginis lucky him
What a pile of trash.
They got segregated roads for Palestianisn and Israelis. This is insanity
They don't. There are roads that cannot be used with Palestinian license plates, but Palestinians can get Israeli license plates, and in fact many have them.
Well if Palestinians kept their hands to themselves that wouldn't happen. and fyi it's Israelis who is can't use Palestine roads for fear of being murdered but those Palestine terrorists use both roads without any harm then you wonder who is really the oppressor.
and it is called Apartheid State of Israel
@@Funnyyah You're an imbecile. You speak as if Palestinians appeared out of nowhere to torment Israelis. It's a fact that Palestinians are descendants of Ancient Judaeans who chose to settle, then convert to Islam and Christianity. European Jews only have 2% DNA of ancient Judaeans. Which is why Israel was almost created in Uganda and changed at the last moment. GTFOH YOU CLOWN
@@armchairquarterback4529No apartheid but security measures. As the Palestinians choose hate and terror over peace andco existence.
You missed the part rabin’s shooter was influenced at the time by Netanyahu’s speech
and the talmud
Or the minor fact that Jordan 🇯🇴 is "palestine"😂
You missing part that Sharon went into coma after giving back Jewish land. He wasn’t supposed to do.
Methinks it was more than influence! These are extremist right wingers!!
@@Erinvllc Palestine is Palestine you demon.
In 1993, the USA played a role in aiding Israel, fully aware from the beginning that Israel would never recognize a Palestinian state. Now, in 2024, there have been no negotiations, yet the USA continues to veto any recognition of Palestine, justifying this by claiming that negotiations-which ended over 20 years ago-must be respected.
the US loses its status of the worlds superpower when it comes to Israel. they become clows that have no idea what to do and look weak in a blink of an eye. The US Cannot be apart of negotiations between the two sides since it follows the Rules of AIPAC. If Israel want to continue to be on the map then it has to give the idea of its Jewish Supremacy and the ideoligy of Zionism
8 Americans are currently held hostage. What are you talking about?
8x Israelis @@MrWhitmen1981
Take away the veto power! Send Israeli zionists to the UK AND EUROPE!
@MrWhitmen1981 sheren aqla was an American the word kitchen workers had an American with them the rest were European
The ICJ said these Israeli settlements in the West Bank must be vacated and settlers removed.
@@globalman2 yea time for Palestinians to move out
Can’t wait!
@@Sammich4839
Or what or they will keep sending them.bombs to use?
@Sammich4839 you must realise at this point when the pendulum swings all of you loons are going to prison for this kid of speech
Didn’t Israel withdraw from Gaza. Look what happened there? Why are you so duplicitous and only report half the truth.
Delulu
That's the point, they didn't, they just locked them like animals in zoo, and then Palestinians attacked to take THEIR lands, Israel started killing innocent people. Israel already killed 30000 people, and hamas killed only 1400 (I condemn hamas for what they did, but Israel much worse than hamas)
It's insane that we allow an explicit ethno state to call itself a democracy.
I agree that it is insane.
But don’t palestinian authority also want an ethno state?
Izrel is defined as "a Jewish state" in its declaration of independence. That says it all
@@user-vf6nn6hx9x Nice (and worn out) try; Israel is defined as both Jewish and Democratic. As the national homeland of the Jewish people but not as a Jewish-only state. As 21% of it’s citizens will testify.
Next.
@@user-vf6nn6hx9x and btw, misspelling and ridiculing words and terms will not get you very far. Grow up.
@@ericson28 if you don't know the reason for that it's your problem. Gfy btw mog
There's no honor among thieves. Israel doesn't have the right to steal Palestinian land. Israel doesn't have the right to commit genocide.
What is Palestine and when was Palestine?
Actual quote from a settler: "If I don't steal it someone else will"
Technically the Palestinians dont have any sovereign territory to steal.
And what is happening in Gaza is most definitely not genocide
@@katlegoloveslife Don't be a poes, Katlego
Palestine is a lost cause. Free Sudan instead! I am focusing on Sudan now.
Its so painful to see such injustice against the Palestinian people going on for decades. The current world leaders should be ashamed of themselves. Insha Allah Palestine will be free in my lifetime. ✊🏼
A thief can never be an owner
true bur very cringe
@@anthonyweller3077 Then give back what you stole in 640!
Yes islam is full of thiefs they never become owners
Arabs literally colonized (stole) this land!
then the arabs have to leave... are you sure abot that? Israel accepts them
The two state nonsense must be forgotten permanently. Only a single integrated state with equal rights to all of its people is feasable. Whether the integrated state is called Israel, palestine or any other name is irrelevant.
Peace will only be achieved when all the citizens of that land are treated with dignity and respect and the oppressed people are allowed to progress, contribute and benefit from the state they live in.
big problem is tha Arabs are completely unfammiliar with that. ´democracy, civil rights, freedom of speech are completely foreign words for them. That is why countries like Syria, Iraq , Lebanon that are formally republics function are hereditary absolute monarchies.
The Zionist are racists. They will not allow what you are suggesting.
"...Zionism... is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state..." - wiki
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United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"
Zionists are Jewish Supremacists.
There is no Israel. It doesn't have the right to exist. Might does not make right and seizing land by force doesn't make it yours. A biblical claim to a land that has nothing to do with you doesn't make it yours. Occupation and atrocities committed over decades bars you from ever having a claim to a land that has thoroughly rejected your foreign presence. There is no Israel, only Palestine and it belongs to the Palestinians be they Muslim, Christian, or Jew.
@@user-vk1wy5xe9i there is already a two state solution in place: Israel and Jordan
@@GHMRoding stop spiking that sh1t, there's still a chance that you can feel human again
Do the roughly 1 million Jews who were kicked out of Arab and Muslim states in 1948 also have a right to return? Those Jews had nothing to do with the war or Israel aside from being Jewish, and yet they were kicked out. The Arabs who wanted to stay in Israel did so. They enjoy equal rights and live productive and far better lives than the Arabs in either Gaza, West Bank or most other Arab countries. Yet the innocent Jews in Arab countries were all kicked out.
We can take it further and ask, do the millions of folks in Pakistan have a right to return to India and vice versa? Or the almost 1 million Germans expelled from Poland after WWII or Poles expelled from Germany during the war. The list can go on with millions upon millions, but only the Palestinians are stuck on this right to return.
Don't you understand? Ethnic cleansing should not be tolerated. Unless, of course, it is Jews who are ethnically cleansed. And that's what people are saying should be done in Judea and Samaria because, you know JUDaism has no connection to that land, right?
What the world is saying is that the "Palestinians" who self-exiled themselves pre-1948 war should be allowed to terrorize Jews and Israel forever until they get back "their" land (that they never owned, for a people that never existed). But imagine if every descendant of a Holocaust survivor went back to Germany and Poland and Hungary and the Czech Republic, etc. and terrorized and brutalized the people there now living on land in the homes stolen from their grandparents and great grandparents. You think the world would say that those Jews have a right of return? Of course not. Triple standard when it comes to Jews. All because the world is jealous that, despite how the world has treated our people for thousands of years, we are still the most successful people on the planet.
Actualy all you say here is simply not true. The jewish peolpe were not ”expeled” from any aram or muslim state. There are jews even in Iran today, nobody expels them. But many jews chosed to live some contries to populate the ”promissed land”.
The arabs who wanted to stay in Israel couldn't stay there because theyr homes were simply demolished and created new setlements only for the jwes.
@@robydragu6705 You're making things up. Around 1947-48, there were around 900,000 Jews in the Arab middle east. Today there are under 10,000 and most of the Jews were ethnically cleansed out of the middle east before 1960. These are facts.
Country 1948 Today
Libya 38,000 0
Iraq 150,000 0
Syria 30,000 0
Egypt 75-100,000 under FIVE
Yemen 6,300 under 50
Morocco 265,000 under 2000
Iran 100-125,000 8,700 (the most)
The notion that nobody expelled Jews is beyond ridiculous. It was the very definition of ethnic cleansing, which apparently is not acceptable to anyone unless those being ethnically cleansed are Jews. And don't think for a second that the Jews in Iran (who will soon die out) are treated as anything other than third class citizens.
By contrast, the vast majority of the approximately 700,000 Arabs who left what became Israel did so before the 1948 war at the behest of the Arabs before they attacked Israel, who told them "don't worry, we will destroy them and you will be back there in a few weeks." Oops. Facts are important. Learn them even if you don't like them.
@@robydragu6705 So if they were not expelled what was the Farhud?
What I've been saying for years. One state where Jews, Muslims and Christians live together with equal rights.
I'm atheist, but this makes the most sense, and there needs to be a minimum of a newly established parliament. Comprised evenly of people from each peoples. I know this wouldn't entirely be the solution because you'll always have the RW Israeli and even moderates, probably with jealousy and resentment, for no longer being that dictatorial hand over the lives of Palestinians, but this would hopefully put them somewhat in their place.
If Palestine WANTS that. Who are we to say? One State; Palestine!
Yep Israel should allow Palestinian people into there country it's not that hard.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld That's just stupid. Israel doesn't have a country. They're trying to steal someone else's.
There is such state before and it is called Palestine
Because Bantustans and Balkanization never work 🤷🏻♀️ simple as that. There’s a big difference between a decentralized confederacy, and tiny nation-states battling for traditional territories at each other’s borders.
Because colonization never works.
The current arrangement is already a 1-state (but not a 1-state solution) for both jews and palestinians. It is an israeli apartheid state >> which everyone can see plainly.
The next 1-state (and a true 1-state solution) has to be based on equal rights with no exceptions for both the israelis and the palestinians.
Otherwise it is the zionists who need to find a new home.
It can't e called Isreal!
@@jessicamarkham-brink6009 agre.
Nope...all the surrounding Arab states , now cursing Israel on a daily basis, will take in their fellow Arabs...you will see
A one state solution run by Hamas, with Jews as the minority? There will be genocide then, too. Read the Hamas charter.
The next state needs to be a palestinian state, and THEY get to decide who has which rights. Us telling them what should happen there is how this whole shit show started.
The Palestinian Right to Return is enshrined in International Law. It can never be voted away or dismissed by any agreement without the full consent of the refugees and their descendants. Any agreement that ignores it has and will fail.
So we ignore international law - now what do you do?
No, we do not ignore international law. Refugees from Europe should be able to go back and refugees displaced from Palestine should be able to go back to all of Palestine.
Yup, it's promoting ridiculous ideas like that which makes solving this issue impossible. What the heck are those UN clowns even thinking. Seriously, do they actually expect Israel to let in 5 million people who descend from a refugee from 75 years ago who now live elsewere.
@@politicas3361Typical arrogance your state is failing fast FASTER THAN YOU REALISE PALESTINE WILL BE FREE
@@politicas3361we who? And why you sound proud of an open injustice? U nzi?
Many Arabs told fellow Muslims to leave prior to the war of Independence thinking they would win in 1948 and resettle. They lost the war they started. Consequences exist.
They shouldn't have had to fight that war in the first place. Israel was constructed out of British colonialism, and has no right to exist in its current form.
My gmail account got deleted by youtube moderation that's insane! over pro palestinian sentiments im not kiddin im even scared to talk my mind right now.
be careful with what you say online guys! stay safe!
there's more to it then that, there's something you aren't telling us.
@@4T3hM4kr0nI it's more than that, Not "more thEn that (1st grade English Grammar)!!
@@4T3hM4kr0n well i can't prove it beyond my word sorry. my only evidence is the chain of events that got my google account deleted, just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it didn't happen to me.
i can pinpoint exactly the moment it happened but everything my account has ever done is deleted for some reason.
i saw a video about that blonde jewish woman talking about Pal being an ideology and the hipocrisy of it.
@@4T3hM4kr0n @4T3hM4kr0n well i can't prove it beyond my word sorry. anything i put here other than simple words gets deleted.
@@snagrbuster7343 i don't know how is this surprising when google has deleted pal from google maps.
How sad that the USA would create the same conditions it fought a war to abolish for European nations. What happened here?
You're assuming that "WW2" was more than a d!ck measuring competition between colonizers. It had nothing to do with morality or justice. One colonizers beat out another colonizer and history tells the result of that conflict.
Look at the history of Manifest Destiny. Settlers pushing further and further into the frontier, displacing its inhabitants and ignoring their government's official treaties until the government annexed the new land. Reservations growing smaller and smaller to feed the appetite of the colonial power. The former inhabitants demoted to second class citizens living under apartheid. Israel takes after the US in the worst ways.
Corruption, money, power. The same thing that always happens.
USA did not fight the war for Europeans we wanted to stay out but then Japan attacked us and Germany declared war which forced us in
I’d be careful drawing comparisons with WW2… you might let it slip that Palestinian leadership was EXTREMELY friendly with the nazi party for almost two decades. Or that after the war, Amin Al-husseini was extremely eager to continue his buddy hitler’s scourge against Jews regardless of their affinity for Zionism. I’ll say that again; Palestine was led by a literal nazi from 1948-1953. I think it’s safe to say a welcoming culture wasn’t exactly on the Palestinian priority list when Jews began flooding the area.
Brilliant work, Dena 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Crappy work. You guys can cry all you want. Israel will always stand strong and there is nothing Muslims can do about it hahahaa😂😂
Propaganda
@@ny-je2cm total Islamist propaganda
@@Godzillamonstrosity what about using your brain, you poor hating thing))
@@Godzillamonstrosityfree Palestine from occupation
Very good analysis! Simplistic but complete. Well done!
Crappy analysis
@@Godzillamonstrosity Tell me you're a jew without telling me you're a jew 🤣
@@RONNYfromOZ I'm a Hindu nationalist actually. But I will be very proud if I were a Jew. Hindu nationalists are hardcore supporters of Israel.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
There will never be a palestininan state, since there is no such thing as palestinian people
The settlers need to go
back to america and europe
Tell that to the settlers.
Please not to Europe!
You forgot to mention Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon declared a war on Israel 1948 and 1967. Winning a war Israel got bigger
And that on Oct.7, the current Palestinian leadership, ruling in the only place which wasn't under occupation, had declared war against the Israeli people -- every man, woman and child.
The speaker mentions the War of Independence in 1948 at the 7:30 mark. It is a very biased and lackluster description of the 1948 war.
@@chaselevinson7950 This is generally an attempt to view the history objectively, but from an Arab POV. There are many examples:
- Stating that the British had encouraged Jewish immigration (ignoring "the White Book");
- Ignoring the Arab rejection of the Peel commission's offer in 1937 (which let them have 80% of the area);
- Assuming as an axiom that all displaced people should return to their original location, as a precondition to any settlement. (Then what about the Pakistanis who fled India in 1947, or the Greek who lost Anatalya in 1923, etc., etc?)
The last point especially is the main reason why at every turn, Palestinians had always insisted on an "All or Nothing" solution, usually ending up with nothing.
@@amos083 Were you born on oct 7? In 2014 for example, over 2k Palestinians were killed by IDF ( I devour food). With is much more than the ones on oct 7. Oct 7 was a response to 76 years of oppression.
Ugh.
Just another sad attempt to defend the indefensible.
Hunting down and killing a 1,000 Jews - - for being Jews - - on a sunny Saturday in October is NOT the answer.
. . . nor is that a commitment to non-violence - - which is the essence of PEACE.
. . . nor is it merciful or beneficent.
Reverse the 3 “No’s” of Khartoum and say YES to Peace, Recognition and Negotiations - - in good faith.
The Palestinians are one generation away from being the most happy and prosperous Arabs in the Middle East (sans oil).
. . . but alas, there are far, far too many who choose to live in resentment, self - pity and the delusion of reversing the irreversible losses of ‘48 and ‘67.
It is time for true peace and reconciliation by doing the hard work of building a Palestinian State upon the principles of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights - - that simultaneously upholds the security of the sovereign State of Israel.
. . . your true brothers and sisters in humanity.
Peace
Why didn't Jordan and Egypt give the Palestinians a state between 1948 and 1967?
Because “victim” Jews aren’t meant to even kick Palestinians out of their homes in the first place,
The juice should be forced to move out. I'm a white american christian I feel that land should only be Palestinian.
Lol the juice people 😅
When are you going back to Europe then?
Your a sham on the word Christian
Palestine is the Roman name given to Israel in 137 AD. No one was calling themselves 'Palestinian' before 1964. My eldest sister is older than the invented 'Palestinian' ethnic group. They have an Arab flag, speak Arabic, have Arabic names, worship an Arab sky genie ..... they are Arabs. They started to butcher their way into Judea 1400 years ago and built one of Satan's palaces on top of the most holy Jewish site.
Where should people like myself and the other 46% of Israeli population who all fled from Muslim countries and prosecution go??? You’re ignorant of reality
I am a non-jewish israeli citizen, and I don't suffer from any discrimination.
There is no discrimination against non-jewish Israeli citizens, the discrimination is against non-jewish non-citizens living in land Israel controls.
Since 1967 Israel holds land that it does not formally annex, and the people living there are subject to restrictions on where they can build homes, where they can go etc in accordance to Israeli laws, while not having the rights all citizens should have.
@@projekcja _Since 1967 Israel holds land that it does not formally annex_ Exactly so. What a crime that Jordan stole the West Bank from the Palestinians in 1948. The Arabs in Jordan had 20 years to give the Arabs in the West Bank a state of their own, but instead they occupied it and then lost it by foolishly choosing war in 1967.
@@projekcja I specifically reffered to that part in the video that says Israel discriminates non-jewis citizens.
so, you want non-citizens to have the same rights as citizens? especially when most of that population doesn't even want to be a part of the state, even when offered citizenship? moreover, constantly carrying out terror attacks against citizens and tourists alike?
it's not like they aren't citizens, they are just not Israeli citizens. they are citizens of the PLO. so makes each group lives under a different set of rules.
areas A and B is under control of the PLO, while area C is a mixed area where the PLO is responsible for it's citizens and Israel is responsible for theirs.
tell me what is your solution.
@@BS-vx8dg Jordan did not steal the West bank from the Palestinians in 1948, it took the West bank from the British, as the British peacefully withdrew, allowing them to take control.
Jordan then ethnically cleansed the West bank from Jews that have lived there: in the old city of Jerusalem there were thousands of jews that lived there for over a thousand years and Jordan expelled all of them. They only got to return 18 years later in 1967.
@@projekcja " _Jordan did not steal the West bank from the Palestinians in 1948, it took the West bank from the British_ ". With respect, you are mistaken. The British did not have the West Bank (or any of Palesstine) "taken" from them, they gave it up and put the UN in charge. The UN decided to split the territory between the Jews and the Arabs that we now call Palestinians. The land that Jordan occupied in 1948 was land that the UN had designated for the Arab state. Therefore the Jordanians stole the land that rightfully belonged to the Arab Palestinians. Your detour into what Jordan actually _did_ with the West Bank is not relevant to the point I was making, that the West Bank was not Jordan's to begin with (and of course the same can be said of Egypt and Gaza).
The arabs rejected the partitian plan of the UN and started a war on Israel in 1948. They lost the war and still didn't create a palastinian state. They waited for an opportunity to attack Israel again and destroy it. In 1968 the arabs thought this opportunity had come. They again lost the war. So the arabs are to blame for the fact that there is no palastinian state.
The West Bank map is like watching cancer spread.
free palestine🇵🇸
The treaty that marked the end of the Ottoman Empire's control over Palestine after World War I was the Treaty of Sèvres, signed in 1920, which officially dissolved the Ottoman Empire and CEDED large parts of its territory, including Palestine, to the Allied powers like Britain and France as League of Nations mandates; essentially placing Palestine under British control.
Number of Arab Muslims living as full citizens in Israel? Approximately 2.5million. Number of Jews living as full citizens in majority Muslim countries? Approaching if not actually reaching zero. “Expelled”. You keep using that word but I do not think you know what it means.
Thief stole a bread and gave you the crumbs
They are NOT living as full citizens in Israel. Israel is an apartheid state which privileges Jews over all other people.
Perfect. Then let in the other 5 million and their descendants.
@@diab748 Ask Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon to offer full citizenships to Palestinians. They all refuse.
Maybe the settlements should be vacated and the Palestinians, mainly from Gaza, moved into the empty houses. along with a strip of land connecting them to the sea bordering Lebanon. Those houses are currently vacant anyway. But wider. Also the Golan Heights would be no longer annexed by Israel.
I disagree. Just because Israeli settlements were built around West Bank during the decades doesn’t mean they can’t leave. Germany lost 20% of their territory to Poland after WWII.
The British government massively limited the number of jews who could go to Palestine to prevent this problem, the predecessor to the IDF, Hagganah actually became powerful from illegally smuggling European jews into Palestine, the British government at one point was fighting alongside the arabs against jewish rebels. Hagganah was funded primarily by America, America created this problem, Britain did not.
Yes, it's funny how nobody questions why the British left 😂
I thought it was British Baron Rothschild who petitioned the British government to move the British Zionist into Palestine with the Balfour Agreement 1917?
A lot of ignorance here
The British divided British Palestine into an Arab Jordan and a Jewish Israel but couldn’t see it through to the end
@@doctordan1668 No they are accurate,, the Brits left when they could no longer manage the situation which the US neglected and supported the jews
perfectly put
The only solution is a One State solution with equal rights for Palestinians and Israelis!
This would be worse, Israel would just take the whole thing. Erasing Palestines
I wish it was possible, but it would not be the utopia many think it would be. First, we are talking about two populations that have been at each other's throats for decades; they can't just coexist with a snap of a finger. Second, although there are extremists on both sides, there is no denying that the extremists on the Palestinian side have the more extreme goal of literally killing every Jew. How do you get them to coexist? Third, the neighbourhood, i.e., the Middle East, is not conducive to a stable democracy, and typically, democracies thrive when surrounded by other democracies. Here, this utopian One-state solution would be surrounded by countries who, for various reasons, don't want this to work out (Iran would be the biggest problem with the help of its proxies.)
I agree!
It already exists, it’s called the state of Israel where arabs and jews and Russians enjoy equal rights.
@@theoriginal4ever7 You're full of it. Israel is trying to literally kill every Palestinian right now as we speak.
Excellent video, Dena! This is the clearest explanation I have heard of the difficulties of a two state solution. Thank you.
Don't thank her. Her report was very biased, dishonest, and missed several points about many Arab attacks to wipe out Israel.
One state solution would be extremely difficult as well because there will inevitably be segregation and discrimination within the country. Basically apartheid without the current big walls. The land stealing will continue, the bullying will continue, settler violence will continue, Palestinians' livelihood will be hell-like. I cannot see these 2 populations living together peacefully.
Time for them to return to Jordan and live with their people
@@politicas3361 Many Palestinians descended from Jews and Canaanites. Also, it was Muslims and Omar (RAA) who helped Jews return to Jerusalem after kicking out the Romans, and here's a cancer reverse begging for Dajjal arriving sooner.
@@politicas3361 you're demonstrating my point very well. Thank you
@@politicas3361Time for the not real jews to go back to Europe and America.
Absolute nonsense. You are appeasing israeli terrorism
really exceptional and clear telling of the history of a beseiged, yet powerfully Palestinian community. Palestine will be free.
There will never be a palestininan state, since there is no such thing as palestinian people
This is a very clear cherry picking of history
Not as long as it hosts, encourage and let terrorists act within its area.
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The Palestinian Authority had many opportunities to establish its state next to Israel, but chose conflict each time. It's too late now. Maybe five autonomous areas within Israel are possible, but if not negotiated for now, that opportunity will be gone forever too.
Thank you for everything you do..thank you for being brave. I could never visit Palestine since Israel is occupying and terrorizing that area. Its sad and i hope one day we can see a free Palestine and maybe one day ill be able to visit and not think that i am going to be killed.
Israeli Colonialism ....simple !
Only the dishonest pretend that it's simple.
Tripe. That is historical and Biblical Judea-Samaria.
It's a license to steal land, that is all.
Imagine being a middle-class European or American, paying up to 50% in taxes while working more hours than the global average for a mediocre life.
Then one day, an outreach from the local religious institution tells you, you can move to a place where you'll have your own house, own land, pay extremely low taxes, education and healthcare would be free and you'd be granted citizenship on arrival. I mean which Westerner wouldn't take that deal?
the only i have learnt from this conflict is that muslims never feel any responsibility for anything at anytime never
Your commentary is, as always, so logical, and, very much needed to help bring sanity to an insane world. Thank-you.
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Extremely biased
Ive been thinking the same… thieves don’t respect borders, armed and violent illegal settlers don’t agree to get along. Decades of their feral behaviour have demonstrated this, reasonable societies don’t commit genocide on their neighbours.
76 years of victimhood and a refusal to get their act together. Permanent victims disliked by anyone who has had to deal with them. Go ask neighboring Muslim countries how they feel about the troublesome Palestinians.
@@Comments1-vc8jg That’s too funny… You know it is 76 years , yet your comment is attempting to justify theft, illegal and armed feral violent occupation? Brutal apartheid system and full intent Genocide? That is a zionazi excuse. And another characteristic of zees is: to claim /steal even the victimhood from their actual victims. 76 years of victimhood …. they have right to defend themselves against 76 years of oppressors , usurpers and they have right to self-determination. Go ask a normal sane human about that.
@@Comments1-vc8jgzip it zio land thieves the whole place is called Palestine there is no Israhell and never will be keep living in delusions
Double standards are a constant evil in the world and there will never ever be peace with double standards. Sensible minded people can reason away from double standards but the dull of mind never will. Do unto other as you would have them do unto you.
Context counts, thank you for the sharp presentation so desparately needed today.
Exceptional video!
There have been several instances where proposals for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict were not accepted by Palestinian leadership:
1. The British Peel Commission's 1937 partition plan, which suggested creating separate Jewish and Arab states, was not accepted by Palestinian leader Hajj Amin Husseini.
2. In November 1947, the UN proposed a partition plan to establish two states - one Jewish and one Arab. This plan was not accepted by Palestinian leaders.
3. At the Camp David Summit in 2000, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat did not accept the peace proposal presented.
4. In 2008, a comprehensive peace proposal from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was not accepted by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
5. In recent years, Palestinian leaders expressed opposition to the Trump administration's Middle East peace plan, referred to as the "Deal of the Century," even before its details were fully disclosed.
These instances suggest that over the decades, various proposals for a two-state solution have not been embraced by Palestinian leadership.
A very interesting 53 year gap inbetween when the israeli state was made by the British and the newer deals in the year 2000.
Is it that wierd that the Palestinian leaders said no in the early 1900, when an outside power (the British) comes to your land and "asks" that you give up a significant amount of it because they felt like it?
Seems like quite the bargain to me.
That’s because Jews just robbed them out of their land, if I were in that position I would want my land back, not split it with the thief who broke into my home.
You conveniently forgot to mention that the British gave away 70% of “palestine” to create Jordan. But let’s focus on the Jews who got 10% of their ancestral homeland back (which you also conveniently don’t mention, that Jews are the indigenous people of the land; they were there thousands of years before Arabs invented Mohammed.)
Notice the well-deserved awards in the Sana's background
Ever care to ask Palestinian Arabs what they want? It’s not a two state solution.
You also neglect to mention who started the wars in 47-48 that preceded the Nakba.
it was the israelis who started the 48 war with starting the plan dalet
@@AuthorMT0 Really Notice Your Ignorance :
Because the Arabs rejected their other half, Palestine was never born. The creation of the state of Israel was not well received in the region. In May 1948, forces from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Lebanon invade, leading to the first in a series of Arab-Israeli wars.
In 1967, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egypt and Syria, which began the Six-Day War. Israel has since occupied the West Bank, Arab East Jerusalem (which was, at the time, Jordanian territory) and the Golan Heights, in Syria.
Study and stop being stupid 😂
@AuthorMT0 war had already broken out in '48. And the neighbors didn't get involved for the sake of Palestinian Arabs. They made successful land grabs in the south and east.
@@boatbutch plan dalet started 6 months before the first arab army entered palastine, plan dalet started on march 1948, arabs joined the war to stop plan dalet and the ethn!c cleans!ng on September 1948
For Example deir yassin massacre happened on 9th of april 1948, and so on..
Arabs joined the war unprepared their countries didn't have real armies most arab countries had their independence in the 1960th, and the countries that joined the war had their independence 2 years before the event they didn't have any military, the only country with a semi professional army was egypt, they only sent volunteer troops...
It is funny because israel army combatants were double the arab army number combined!!! They had superior logistics, they didn't have to cross large desert like the sinai desert, and they had more important factor a unified command center. While arabs fought under multiple countries and factions... Of course the rescue army lost which is logical.
@@AuthorMT0hostilities began when Palestinian Arabs ambushed Jewish civilians in Lod in November '47. I'm not sure what Arab military competence matters though I will point out that the Arab Legion was led by a British veteran of two world wars.
Do you really believe a "Palestine" would have emerged out of Israeli defeat in '48? Certainly not what happened in the territory the Arab armies did capture.
How many Jews would be left in the region if they had lost?
Equality for all will never, ever happen when most of the Israeli population sees the Palestinians as less than human.
Bingo
Build starbucks, kfc, and nike factories in gaza and west bank. Our corporate overlords would never allow their businesses to be destroyed
during world war II the US Air Force had to pay Ford Motors for damages to Ford's factory in germany during the many bombing campaigns against the german arm's industry.
So you are probably on to something
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allah has chosen israel for victory mashallah
A very calm and to the point documentary. Thank you for that. My previous comment was done before I saw the documentary.
The Ottoman Empire was previously the owner of this land, not the so called “Palestinians”. The Jews will never allow a majority of people to either gain control in Israel OR live this close to them in an actual state-as the governing groups in these areas have clearly stated that they will never accept a Jewish state to exist. Hence, Israel will continue to do what it is doing.
The only way this'll work is if you literally split the land in 2. Not this gibberish, nonsensical 'split' where you scatter millions of Palestinians across 22% of their own land.
And this will never happen bc Israel will never allow it. Hence, there is no '2 state solution'. 💔
Ive been living under a rock. Omg This issue goes back a whole century
Yep, it starts before WWl. It's insane. I was a staunch Israel supporter. One day things just started not adding up. I started asking questions and doing research. I was appalled at what I found. I couldn't believe how blind I was.
OBVIOUSLY, this one sides video ignores all the PALESTINIANS extremist that are the cause of the problem.
What about the right of return for the thousands of Jews that were forced out of their homes, in the 'tolerant' muslim Arab countries?
Forced out? Werent they invited to go to israel to form a majority? That was the whole point of 5ionsm
@@RobPires Whatever narrative you pick to deny the virulent anti-semitism that is prevalent in much of the Arab world. Hundreds of thousand Jews leaving places they have been living in for generations - because zionism? Grow up guy.
@@RobPiresprosecution on the Arab countries is what drove them to Israel and I’m speaking from a place of 6 family members of mine were murdered as well as the authorities took all of their properties. So when moving to Israel the fled with NOTHING
Excellent!! so clear, painfully clear. Thank you.
Very useful and purposeful topic. Thank you for your efforts.
Either split the country in two properly, with a straight line or border down the middle, or it must become a secular state!
A state that does not consider any religion as an official religion. A state that would treat all its citizens fairly and equally, regardless of their religion.
@@BebsDotter The current state of Israel is already secular. They even treat Muhammadist better than Christians & Jews. Look up the status quo of Temple Mount which is a very special place for Christians & Jews yet they can’t pray openly there, only the Muhammadist can. BTW the Muhammadist stole that land in the 7th century similar to the Europeans stealing America. So if anyone is occupying stolen land it’s them.
@@Marsfi16 Secular? It's an ethnostate with more that 60 laws discriminating by race within it's borders.
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Sounds like you just don’t understand meaning of secular state Pal!!
The term secular state actually describes a state that is officially neutral in matters of religion… that is NOT Israhell!
זה המצב בישראל היום ואני אומר את זה בתור יהודי חרדי שגר בישראל ורוצה מדינה דתית לערבים יש זכויות מלאות והם מנצלים אותם בשביל לרצוח
there can only be a one state solution. no apartheid, no imperial colonization.
Saying this video is misleading is being generous its totally bs and meniplating and distorting history on steroids…
Listen, if you have to keep saying the truth is not the truth. Maybe you are just on the evil side?
Oh sounds like you believe in the lying US media. 😅
All you Zionists do is lie, this video only states facts
>calls a video misleading
>doesn't explain why its misleading
>doesn't read the sources document that they provide to support their claim
>doesn't give evidence on why the video is misleading
you are not making an argument, you are just voicing emotions.
So much injustice in 2024 😢
You are reaping what you have been sowing since the 7th century,
@@sschaubal what would you have said to the Jews in Nazi Germany? Or to Indians in Churchill Era during Bengal Famine?
Negotiations continued after the Oslo Accord. Sharon even shut down settlements in Gaza and withdrew.
But Netanyahu and the settler parties went their own direction. And Hamas seized control over Gaza.
For the last decade, it's the extremes in both communities that have unfortunately been running the show.
One hopes that condition does not last much longer, that both sides tire of bloodshed and get back to the negotiating table.
just another propaganda against Israel, this is what this video is about. Jewish people lived on this land for about 6000 years, it was never such think as Palestinian state.
The game is over!
Arafat gave the '3 nos' during Oslo accords instead of accepting Palestinian state offer.
I would argue that Israel is not subsidizing the settlements. The settlements would not be possible without the funds and military support provided by the United States. Without the monetary support, military assistance, and diplomatic cover provided by the United States, Israel would likely have had to negotiate a 2 state solution decades ago.
The situation now mirrors that of the American Indians in the 1800s. Make treaties, drive them unto reservations, break the treaties, make them walk during the winter to another reservation hundreds of miles distant, starve the survivors, try to pacify any resistance to being constantly persecuted........ sound familiar?
Yes this does sound familiar
1 state, no segregation, religious tolerance
You mean like historic Palestine where Jews, Christians and Muslims lived together peacefully as friends and neighbours? Sounds like a holy land.
yeah... as if the palestinans are religiously tolerable .
@@davidkatamadze1201 your racism tells us everything we need to know about your intentions
It's very nice to omit details that contradict your narrative
When Nazi Germany ended its occupation of Norway in May, 1945, it wasn't called a "two state solution". It was called an end to the occupation. The phrase "two state solution" makes it seem like there are two equal parties fighting over a piece of land they both have the right to, which is incorrect. Israel is a colonial project and according to an ICJ ruling, the occupation of the OPT is illegal under international law.
Israel isn't Nazi Germany.
@@Sufganiyot There are a lot of parallels, but that's not even what I'm arguing here. My argument is that it is very problematic that we're talking about creating a "two state solution" when Israel is illegally occupying land.
@@DavidHar They won the land in a defensive war
Great work. Your voice is important! Thank you!! 🤟🏼🍉🕊️💚🧕🏼
FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE GAZA FREE Cisjordanie
Excellently and clearly explained - great job!
The palestinans were offered 99% of the west bank and Gaza in 7 different occasions in the last 40 years. They always said no and reacted with violenece and terrorism. They dont want to live along side of Israel, they want Israel destruction. You dont believe me? Then ask a palestinian yourself and you'll see.
On the contrary, If you were propose a palestinian state living peacefully along side israel the vast majority would say YES, but they all know such an indipendent state will create a scenario similar to Gaza #2, a state that promotes terrorism and violence less than 5 km from Israel main cities and populated areas. No one wants to test this.
They were offered? It was their land to begin with! So ignorant.
So Israel is trying to offer Palestine their own land? Tbf even I’d react bad, what a scam 😂😂😂
I never actually understood why a two state solution must entail that Israel will evacuate the settlements. Just make the settlers give up their citizenship, as they are living outside of israel's borders.
There is a one state solution. Gaza rejoins Egypt and the PA West Bank rejoins Jordan.
Let them deal with the security mess and leave the Israelis alone.
One state solution, Palestine for Palestinians. Other people back to Europe and America.
And to yemen morocco and libya as well?
you clearly have not heard of the holocaust
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Are we going to say the same for all immigrants in every western country too? Kind of bizarre to think this is feasible.
@@ArthurMaltson the double standard is so dumb, palestine for palestinians and no one bats an eye, but say france for the french and you're labelled a neo-natsi by everyone.
Something no one ever mentions is, when Britain first took over the Mandate, Palestine and Trans-Jordan were together, but soon separated by the British into two areas, the mandate was partially to create a Jewish Homeland in Israel, to fulfill its promises to the Jews, and Trans-Jordan was to fulfill its promises to the Arabs. There you have it a TWO state solution.
Incredible. Keep fighting the good fight, against the modern evil
It should be noted that partitioning & separation between different cultures were the norm in most countries, especially Western countries until the 1960s. Palestine, India-Pakistan-Bangladesh, apartheid South Africa, segregation in the US, etc.
Im just glad that most of the world has moved beyond this stupid notion.
Normally, newly arrived migrants don't get to get their ethno-state.
What Dena forgets to mention is that they are civilian groups that are actively planning new real estate in Palestinian territory.
Fake news lady. There were no Palestinians before Arafat invented them. There were only Arabs and jews in Palestine.
Also, if the Arabs accepted the land that was given to them, there was a Palestinian state today.
She forgot to tell that al the Arab countries attack Israel after Israel was founded, and a lot of Arabs still could stay in Israel after the war. Until now 2 million Arabs live in Israel with an Israeli pasport, So the so could "Nakba" was not a disaster for all Arabs living in Palestine.
you. you are very important. please take care. and stay safe.
She is fearless. I hope she doesnt join the hundreds of other journalists already exe××××d by israel.
She is utterly biased and full of garbage. Too bad she fooled you.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
I like how the issue of the "Nakba" is always played. Aggressor claiming victim. Palestinians + Arabs started a war and lost. And the resulting displacement (no genocide involved even though Israel had the capacity to commit same) is now being attributed to Israel??
Most of those displaced decided willingly to leave rather than stay and accept Israel citizenship.
We are seeing the exact same thing in 2023/2024. Start a violent war, then expect law and diplomacy to prevail.
If there must be peace, law must be upheld by ALL parties.
If you stand behind ICJ and UN rulings, then you must also abide by International law, not attacking in 1948 and 2023 and taking hostages.
Can't eat your cake amd have it.
Sow violence reap violence.
That's the basic truth.
deir yassin massacre 1948, who started a war?
@@janvanruth3485 history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/arab-israeli-war#:~:text=Fighting%20began%20with%20attacks%20by,%2C%20settlements%2C%20and%20armed%20forces.
@@janvanruth3485 Yes. This was a war crime within the civil war that the Arabs started. There were also other massacres before and after this against Jews too. No side is innocent in any war . My point is that the war started following the announcement of the partition by UN in 1947. After this massacre against Palestinians other massacres were perpetrated by Palestinians too. History cannot be isolated. I can send a list of pogroms against Israel in the middle east but that's not my point.
My point is that alot has happened historically on both sides and this silly aggressor versus oppressed narrative is not the solution.
The way forward is level headed diplomacy and unbiased resolution
Very one-sided story - again. She "forgot" the "right of return" of the Palestinian "refugees" to ISRAEL. That's why the peace process collapsed in 2000 at Camp David. For Arafat there was only an option for a certain two state solution: palestinian state and a temporary jewish state filled later by 5-10 million arab muslim "refugees". Resolution: 1 palestinian arab muslim state. Do you still wonder why the peace process is dead?