I had a couple of those Black Goliath issues as a child but never finished that storyline. Now, after more than 40 years thanks to this video I finally know what the deal was with that box
So much great information on an almost forgotten hero! I don’t remember the issues in particular, but I know I read these as a kid along with Power Man, Black Lightning and a Black Panther in Jungle Action.
Agreed, I could have easily forgiven Tony Stark for creating a duplicate of Thor but letting it go buck-wild and KILLING somebody? Yeah, that's not as nearly easy to forgive... When and if Black Goliath ever returns, I'm guessing he'll have some CHOICE WORDS for Mister Stark...
@@rjsuttles6983 True! The Ever Lovin' Blue-Eyed Thing was actually much more powerful AND skilled than Black Goliath, but Black Goliath was still a brilliant scientist AND his growth powers gave him a better reach!
Nice Job! Black Goliath was one if my favorite heroes as a kid. The short lived series he had was cool. I loved his costume. It sucked that they killed him off.
M M you bring back memories of my huge comic collection of some small part of the 60's ,but mostly from the 70's thur the early 90's.thank you, you're like an old school friend. Excelsior
Damn, these are the comics I would randomly buy in the late 70s at a gas station or 7-11 on family road trips or summer vacays at cousins houses, then throw away or toss around. How I wish I had kept and preserved them at the time. ugh.
This is why your channel is great b/c you cover cool niche obscure characters like this Goliath. Could you make a vid on when an why Hawkeye became Giantman as well. I always heard about it but never knew the whole story.
In Texas high school football, that's what we call "the total package." Black Goliath can get big and straight up wreck the place but he can also cure radiation viruses. Also, these 70s writers were footloose nuts with these plots.
Man RIP Black Goliath gone way too soon 😞 and by a not even real Thor but a clone Thor named Ragnarok smh and he’s still not back yet or at least from the last time I checked and that was literally over a decade ago when it happened
Awesome! I thought Claire was Night Nurse, but no! She’s a Power Man/ a Black Goliath supporting cast member! Awesome. I learned so much from this video.
So... "Black Goliath" pretty much never referred to himself as that. He was just Goliath. I'm sure some writers didn't notice. but i thought it was worth noting.
Bill Foster has gone by the names Black Goliath Giant man and Goliath. You can see bill refer to himself as Black Goliath in the comic pages @9:26 @10:02 and 11:43.
Gotta hand it to marvel for at least trying; i mean, race relations were very volatile during the early 70’s. The press had placed urban blight at the feet of the working poor- mainly black and brown Americans. For marvel to step in and create black panther, black Goliath, Luke Cage, Blade, Wyatt Wingfoot, Storm, and other heroes of color was super progressive given the times. These days, it is easy for us to ask, why not just call him Goliath? The panther? It’s actually cool that we, as a society, are at least trying to move forward, instead of in reverse.
7:46 I can't believe it. That plot was so dumb they retconned it after only a year... in the 1970s when comic were still in their bat crap crazy phase!
Please do a history of Marvel’s World War II superhero teams, The Liberty Legion, The Invaders, All Winners Squad, etc., including brief histories of the collective teams and the individual members of each and their respective fates. Some of the members are apparently still alive (Jack Frost?, Thin Man? Etc.)
😂🤣, I remember a Spider Man comic where he showed up at a bank robbery, dude named the Walrus (suit n all) said he had the proportionate strength,speed n stamina as one.... Spidey fell out laffin on the ground, 👮 was just looking at him...
It's interesting that Black Goliath was introduced around the same time that classic Avengers issues that had introduced Bill Foster were being reprinted . Nice coordinated effort Marvel !
That Project Pegasus saga was great. Ben Grimm, Quasar and Bill Foster made a good team. Of course Marvel had to kill him off. The modern Marvel practice of killing off a character for cheap shock value. Jack Monroe anyone?
@@quinteson2853 Yes it was! There was a time in the 70's and 80's when Marvel could have a 3, 4, or 5 issue storyline in one book. Self contained and you didn't have to buy a lot of other books you normally wouldn't read to continue the story. Maybe a 2 issue story that went from an issue of the Amazing Spider Man that finished in an issue of Nova but that's it.
there is a new one that i thin k is bill's cousin he was part of war of the realms i still think black goliath is an awesome name . maybe we can get a complete collection out of marvel.
Hold on, Hold on... if Bill was so damn smart and Tony was so damn smart why didn't they just duplicate the antidote so Bill could have some for himself later?
Here is a cool idea to keep the Black Goliath legacy alive. What if Black Goliath and Darkstar had an affair and had a kid and the kid turned out to be Cloak from Cloak and Dagger.
I gotta stop you there, video guy, 16:00 the Black Goliath "was" worried about the radiation and Nuklo (at that time) had the mind of a child, he wasn't a "villain" (at the time) at all but just not able to function like regular people. I read those Marvel Two-In-One issues many times and you're giving "less than accurate" information. If Goliath wasn't worried, he wouldn't have fashioned those "metal" mitts to cover his fists while fighting Nuklo, who was a mutant actually. While Goliath cared less, he did care about things, that's why he was looking for a cure. You also left out his participation in saving Project Pegasus along with Thing, Quasar, Thundra, Wundarr, and a few other reluctant people and that happened in the issues you mentioned his/Thing's battle with Nuklo, who was let out as a distraction by the doctor who was to become the Nth Man.
#blackdiamondpress.😈2k20 in all My dreams of Comic History although I'm not on Racist side?? Black Character always are Done really good & little know fact deseGuys who Created them esteem f/back in da Day. When all dese politics were going on; 50's, 60's 70's. 🆒 i liked Black Goliath a long tyme. Signed by the Jr. Horseman 🕋 lol
One of the force five giant robot anime shows from the 70s had a project Pegasus. It consisted of a humanoid android boy and a mechanical horse. When to two combined to be come a super weapon. This segment gave off a omega the unknown feal. In The sense that you knew the boy would die after mission he was built for. Very depressing
One of the force five giant robot anime shows from the 70s had a project Pegasus. It consisted of a humanoid android boy and a mechanical horse. When to two combined to be come a super weapon. This segment gave off a omega the unknown feal. In The sense that you knew the boy would die after mission he was built for. Very depressing
In the Avengers End Game movie it should of been Bill Foster not Professor Hulk that they consulted about the Pym Particles for use of time travel
I had a couple of those Black Goliath issues as a child but never finished that storyline. Now, after more than 40 years thanks to this video I finally know what the deal was with that box
Readcomisonline has all those issues up on their site for free
I loved Black Goliath and especially Luke Cage back in the day.
It takes devotion to follow and explain these plot threads. Well done.:)
So much great information on an almost forgotten hero! I don’t remember the issues in particular, but I know I read these as a kid along with Power Man, Black Lightning and a Black Panther in Jungle Action.
Love seeing all the early artwork from Ron Wilson. He was fantastic on TWO-IN-ONE.
I think it would make more sense if Black Goliath just became Goliath , and Hank Pym sticks to Ant Man.
Yeah, i never got Black Goliath... was Pym White Goliath?
He’s black corps now
Great video. They did him wrong by killing im in Civil War. Thanks for giving him a bit of shine.
Agreed, I could have easily forgiven Tony Stark for creating a duplicate of Thor but letting it go buck-wild and KILLING somebody? Yeah, that's not as nearly easy to forgive... When and if Black Goliath ever returns, I'm guessing he'll have some CHOICE WORDS for Mister Stark...
Well Laurence Fishburn's character is still alive in the MCU and survived the snap...well everyone survived the snap I guess
Stark and Reed Richard's should have been jailed for clone Thor's killing of Bill Foster.
@@markanderson-hc1tz You are 100% correct.
He’s still dead
I miss Black Goliath.
I agree back in the mid 70's I had a comic when, Ben Grimm (The Thing) and Black Goliath, United nice tag team.
@@rjsuttles6983 True! The Ever Lovin' Blue-Eyed Thing was actually much more powerful AND skilled than Black Goliath, but Black Goliath was still a brilliant scientist AND his growth powers gave him a better reach!
Nice Job! Black Goliath was one if my favorite heroes as a kid. The short lived series he had was cool. I loved his costume. It sucked that they killed him off.
M M you bring back memories of my huge comic collection of some small part of the 60's ,but mostly from the 70's thur the early 90's.thank you, you're like an old school friend. Excelsior
Damn, these are the comics I would randomly buy in the late 70s at a gas station or 7-11 on family road trips or summer vacays at cousins houses, then throw away or toss around. How I wish I had kept and preserved them at the time. ugh.
This was pretty good!
I like these origin stories. History that kinda makes you wonder.
I love how they drew the acid smoke literally just pouring and snuggling him like a Snuggie Of Death
This is why your channel is great b/c you cover cool niche obscure characters like this Goliath. Could you make a vid on when an why Hawkeye became Giantman as well. I always heard about it but never knew the whole story.
"' A fearful nation is a divided nation." Very appropriate quote for today's real world.
Great video!
Agreed. I've always wanted to learn more about Black Goliath, now I have!
I'll say it, that 2nd costume that Foster wore in Marvel 2-1 was freaking dope.
In Texas high school football, that's what we call "the total package." Black Goliath can get big and straight up wreck the place but he can also cure radiation viruses.
Also, these 70s writers were footloose nuts with these plots.
You tell the best bedtime stories
R.I.P 🙁
8:35 it's funny the villain is named Atom Smasher because that's the name of a DC character with the same power as Goliath
Man RIP Black Goliath gone way too soon 😞 and by a not even real Thor but a clone Thor named Ragnarok smh and he’s still not back yet or at least from the last time I checked and that was literally over a decade ago when it happened
i recently just started collecticg black action figures 1/12 scale.... its gonna be nice displaying him at 1/6 ....
There is a 12” Goliath figure in the 3.75” Marvel Universe line. It looks good and scales well with the 6” Legends line, but it’s scarce.
I forgot how many two-in-one issues Byrne drew. Such a “Goliath” in comics
Imagine Lawrence Fishburne Wear like this
Nah somebody younger.
@@mtrich8113 well they could make him look younger like they did with Michael Douglas
Awesome! I thought Claire was Night Nurse, but no! She’s a Power Man/ a Black Goliath supporting cast member! Awesome. I learned so much from this video.
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Good origin story
The name "Atom Smasher" would later be used for a DC comics character.
Do a Origin history of this character Doc Samson from Marvel Comics.
So... "Black Goliath" pretty much never referred to himself as that. He was just Goliath. I'm sure some writers didn't notice. but i thought it was worth noting.
Bill Foster has gone by the names Black Goliath Giant man and Goliath. You can see bill refer to himself as Black Goliath in the comic pages @9:26 @10:02 and 11:43.
Gotta hand it to marvel for at least trying; i mean, race relations were very volatile during the early 70’s. The press had placed urban blight at the feet of the working poor- mainly black and brown Americans.
For marvel to step in and create black panther, black Goliath, Luke Cage, Blade, Wyatt Wingfoot, Storm, and other heroes of color was super progressive given the times.
These days, it is easy for us to ask, why not just call him Goliath? The panther? It’s actually cool that we, as a society, are at least trying to move forward, instead of in reverse.
7:46 I can't believe it. That plot was so dumb they retconned it after only a year... in the 1970s when comic were still in their bat crap crazy phase!
great job. 5:53. One problem with being a growing superhero: you get punched in the balls a lot.
Please do a history of Marvel’s World War II superhero teams, The Liberty Legion, The Invaders, All Winners Squad, etc., including brief histories of the collective teams and the individual members of each and their respective fates. Some of the members are apparently still alive (Jack Frost?, Thin Man? Etc.)
Can you do the silver surfer origin video plz
Please tell me they got rid of those serpent creeps for good.
I'm used to comics, but damn that's confusing.
You should also relate his death.
Who would ever find a villain named stiltman scary
😂🤣, I remember a Spider Man comic where he showed up at a bank robbery, dude named the Walrus (suit n all) said he had the proportionate strength,speed n stamina as one.... Spidey fell out laffin on the ground, 👮 was just looking at him...
It's interesting that Black Goliath was introduced around the same time that classic Avengers issues that had introduced Bill Foster were being reprinted . Nice coordinated effort Marvel !
Curious to know, did he ever return after his death during
''Civil War"???
love it
The Defenders had a memorable fight against the Sons of the Serpent. They brought down the Hulk.🤔🤔🤔😆
That Project Pegasus saga was great. Ben Grimm, Quasar and Bill Foster made a good team. Of course Marvel had to kill him off. The modern Marvel practice of killing off a character for cheap shock value. Jack Monroe anyone?
Was it entirely in Marvel Two-in-one?
@@quinteson2853 Yes it was! There was a time in the 70's and 80's when Marvel could have a 3, 4, or 5 issue storyline in one book. Self contained and you didn't have to buy a lot of other books you normally wouldn't read to continue the story. Maybe a 2 issue story that went from an issue of the Amazing Spider Man that finished in an issue of Nova but that's it.
So the Ultimate Nullifier couldnt stop the null bomb?
I don't know... Maybe?
When the said only one thing could stop the null bomb the first thing I thought of was “The Ultimate Nullifier!”
My favourite black superheroes are Storm, Black Panther, Blue Marvel, Luke Cage and Monica Rambeau.
there is a new one that i thin k is bill's cousin he was part of war of the realms i still think black goliath is an awesome name . maybe we can get a complete collection out of marvel.
Can Goliath shrink ?
I don't think he can. He's never shown the ability to shrink below his normal human size.
Hold on, Hold on...
if Bill was so damn smart and Tony was so damn smart why didn't they just duplicate the antidote so Bill could have some for himself later?
I was thinking the same thing... why not just duplicate the formula?
@@Leadeshipcoach And why "Black" Goliath? How he know the real Goliath wasn't Black!!
@@PaulGreen11 I mean the previous goliath wasn't, and the biblical one was some sorta Caananite or Philistine.
Oh man... his first costume though 😂
You tell ‘‘em big man 😂
SO we know the box of dangerous stuff is reference too kiss me deadly, classic fifties film noir pulpy goodness.
Here is a cool idea to keep the Black Goliath legacy alive. What if Black Goliath and Darkstar had an affair and had a kid and the kid turned out to be Cloak from Cloak and Dagger.
There's already his younger brother who's sadly more ofa Villain.
Not sure how that would work lol
The term African American was popularized by Jesse Jackson in the 1980s. In 1966, Bill Foster was black.
I gotta stop you there, video guy, 16:00 the Black Goliath "was" worried about the radiation and Nuklo (at that time) had the mind of a child, he wasn't a "villain" (at the time) at all but just not able to function like regular people. I read those Marvel Two-In-One issues many times and you're giving "less than accurate" information. If Goliath wasn't worried, he wouldn't have fashioned those "metal" mitts to cover his fists while fighting Nuklo, who was a mutant actually. While Goliath cared less, he did care about things, that's why he was looking for a cure.
You also left out his participation in saving Project Pegasus along with Thing, Quasar, Thundra, Wundarr, and a few other reluctant people and that happened in the issues you mentioned his/Thing's battle with Nuklo, who was let out as a distraction by the doctor who was to become the Nth Man.
I didn't realize Dark Star was ever a Champion, not sure that's correct.
It is correct.
It is certainly correct. As a Champion she was romantically involved with Bobby Drake, Ice Man.
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That hairline THO!
I didn’t even know marvel had an atom smasher. I only know DC’s
He dies in avengers civil war 1
Kool
Quando Marvel Comics era veramente Marvel !
Wasn't Hawkeye Goliath?
He was for a bit, yeah. Hank Pym, Clint Barton, and Bill Foster have all gone by Goliath at different times.
@@MerryMarvelite 👍🏿Thanx for the reply
#blackdiamondpress.😈2k20 in all My dreams of Comic History although I'm not on Racist side?? Black Character always are Done really good & little know fact deseGuys who Created them esteem f/back in da Day. When all dese politics were going on; 50's, 60's 70's. 🆒 i liked Black Goliath a long tyme. Signed by the Jr. Horseman 🕋 lol
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I dropped a Nuetrolode last week.💩💩💩😆
Why is he black golaith his coustume is blue. Why isn't he blue golaith.
Wow the sons of the serpent just broke in the white house yesterday national TV some things never changed
You are an idiot.
His name is goliath. Not the black goliath
Bill Foster has gone by the names Black Goliath, Giant man and Goliath. Bill refers to himself as Black Goliath @9:26 @10:02 and 11:43.
@@Axen-dg4ql /whooooosh
I like this character marvel did him dirty
this origin story lost me at "stilt man"
Music is annoying
The Ringmaster is a ridiculous character just like Spot.👎👎
One of the force five giant robot anime shows from the 70s had a project Pegasus.
It consisted of a humanoid android boy and a mechanical horse. When to two combined to be come a super weapon. This segment gave off a omega the unknown feal. In The sense that you knew the boy would die after mission he was built for. Very depressing
I fun idea for a list would be matching marvel heros and villians with a corresponding Pokémon
Like Pikachu and electro
Couldn’t he have reverse engineer that does just from the residual traces
Swap some of the names of the wiz kids
Can you have Herbert west The reanimator
Didn’t nuclo have the mind of a child?
Nutra load is an unfortunate name
Great video!
One of the force five giant robot anime shows from the 70s had a project Pegasus.
It consisted of a humanoid android boy and a mechanical horse. When to two combined to be come a super weapon. This segment gave off a omega the unknown feal. In The sense that you knew the boy would die after mission he was built for. Very depressing