I had to come back to this comment now because I had used this idea in my home game when I was designing it about a year and a half ago, and I FINALLY just wrapped up my little arc with the Irnakurse and my players loved it. This idea was gold. Super compelling and relatable for such a horrifying and otherworldly being.
A sea variant to this encounter, spider crab with a bloated variant attached to it. Just imagine a crab the size of a parking space afloat in the sea because the irnakurse attached to it has swelled full of oxygen and hydrogen due to plankton having created colonies inside it for generations. A giant crab with a very creepy swim bladder.
A very tragic back story for a BBEG would be an elf who was "cured" of the flesh warping but is still very "broken" by the experience and is doing bad things secretly but protected by a revered status.
In DnD, the Drow have that awful tear each other and everyone not drow apart kind of evil. Rhexx did an awesome job covering them in comparison of their subjugation to Lloth. Pathfinder says: Hold my beer, we’ll show ya evil. Monsters like this fill in the gaps of why an entire people would continue to suffer the burdens of worshipping the Spider Queen.
This creature of one of the few times where I did the opposite of monkey paw the wish spell. When the party found out what they really were. They had found a ring of three wishes with one wish remaining and used it. I still remember how I ended the session. "It takes courage to stare at the visceral face of evil to see it for how it truly is. The moment you say I wish to end their pain. The last gem cracks on the ring and the irnakurse fades as reality shifts. You are all reminded of your first day as adventurers and what it means to be a hero that faces monsters. Perhaps the gods smile on the brave and the bold that tread where even angels fear to go. Somewhere in the world, the pain begins to be washed away as the long unending nightmare at long last ends with the first rays of sunlight spills into an empty bedroom memorialized for a daughter lost in a raid. Before the drow came.. Before the horrors and the endless night. High elf parents awaken as a alarm spell goes off and with anger born of grief they burst into their daughter's room. You can't save everyone but every once and a while. Due to the actions of an adventuring party and a selfless wish. The world gives back what was stolen. Tahelia Starcrown nestles deep into her blankets deep in her reverie. When she wakes she will recall none of the cruelty fostered on her. And when she wakes the party's face will flash before her mind's eye for a heartbeat before she's ambushed with parental hugs and teary eyes."
I can think of some ways to make it more horrific. Maybe combining it with some aspects of the Jibbering Mouther where it absorbed it's victims into it. Imagine a whole Elven community fused together to share and be the cause of eachothers suffering. Their was a creature like that in Role With Me. It didn't have a name other than the town it used to be.
I think having the condition actually be reversible only adds to the tragedy and helps play into Lolth's twisted enjoyment of their suffering. If the transformation was permanent, it would be too complete a victory for the udadrow over their hated surface kin. An elven community who has lost a friend to this torment, who knows that powerful magic can actually reverse the process, are more likely to send heroes or war parties to try and rescue them. Lolth doesn't necessarily want the udadrow to win all the time. She wants all parties to bleed and suffer as much as possible. And this tiny glimmer of hope in restoring the irnakurse could be the most evil part of the whole situation.
Best way to screw with your party is to have this creature have a moment of clarity where all its memories and consciousness comes flooding back. One second it is snapping and snarling and flailing about making hideous gurgles, then out of nowhere the colour returns to the eyes a look of sorrow and panic. Before a panicked plea from the internal mouth. "OH CORRELON! PLEASE HELP ME! please, my name is Cormyn of house Raerdrimne. They took me, they took (pained wail) I can feel it all, I see it all, help me, help me, please heell.... RRREEEEIIIIIIAIAAAAGGGGHHH" Then back into combat as the creature screams. Let the party know there is a consciousness alive inside the thing. Mess them up.
Slight adjustment: Instead of having it wail at you with it's mouth, (it can't articulate after all), have it use its empathic trait while it's attacking. Then, as you describe what the player is being forced to feel, add something along the lines of a horrifying and desperate plea for help.
Personally, I imagine these things are always screaming something horrible, their mouths are just twisted beyond function. You know how if you reverse the screams of a headcrab zombie, it sounds like they're screaming "Help! God, help! Help me!"? Its like that.
Just noticed that a second Irnakurse would have to make its own Wisdom save or loss Wisdom and get stunned (probably ending its Soul Scream). I'd assume that only non-aberrant creature have to make their saves. (Saves time from making rolls for the monsters stunning themselves stupid).
@@DungeonDad Maybe another way to cure them is this, you encounter a trio of Priestesses of Lolth that are doing the transformations. You kill them but have to capture the blood of them or remove their heads with minimal waste of the blood/damage to the brains. You then must splash the blood on the victims or sacrifice the heads in a Sacred Brazier, either way the magics/tortures that created these creatures gets released and cures them.
I just want you to know you are the reason my players are going to have nightmares. My players are in the underdark about to infiltrate a drow city for multiple reasons, but one of my players is a desert elf that is trying to save thier people from the drow who raided the pc's tribe. I am going to have this be a desert elf that was transformed into this because that elf tried to escape being a slave. Perfect one being a bit ironic and even more tradgic. Thank you sincerly.
should note, for context for descriptions and comments: pathfinder drow don't worship lolth. they do often worship evil beings(such as lamashtu, mazmezz, other demon lords, and occasionally the lawful zon kuthon), but not much widely specific, so most of what fucked up things they do is all them.
"...It's not gonna have two gross mouths that are overlapping each oth--WHAT IS THAT?! WHAT IS THAT?! WHY?!" I dunno, mate, but that happened a lot in Bleach. Will admit, this one is definitely worse, though XD
Wow. I'm so cruel at times. Lol the party goes all murder hobo on this poor creatures. On the moment of death of this creature. Using that reverse Troi ability and the last glimmer of who they where before the transformation. The player that lands the killing blow. Receives a blast of mental .... emotional mess of overwhelming relief and thank you for ending the torture. I think it would stop the players in their tracks and think about things. Or talk with the wizard and use the wizard as a tactical nuke. Lol For some reason. During to their movement speed being 10. Lol evil druid uses them like trees in a grove of their creation. Wow as the gears turn.
Yay, it's converted. All of the stats can be found in Bestiary 4 on pages 101 to 105. This includes the other fleshwarped creatures for troglodytes, vegepygmies, and humans.
It was wild to listen as you say "couldn't find a statblock" while showing the link to the subpage on the screen. It was literally RIGHT in front of you.
I'm just imagining what it would be like if you were born as a high elf with your soul reincarnated from a irnacerst, the visions you'd have to experience while in trance..... No way that won't have a lasting effect, even after death.
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A real dilemma. I feel like the same monster would just go mad again, but honestly having a sane irnakurse who just hangs out and is like “yep, I’m Kyle, what’s up guys” is so funny to me
@@DungeonDad Hey, before you go in guys, I should mention that elder Theloniar has kind of a... condition. He's quite self-conscious so try not to stare.
Ooh, flesh mending sounds a lot like Elaine's magic in Death of a Darklord! I can definitely see an encounter with one of these in Kartakass post book after she's slipped further into madness and has had time honing her craft trying to bring her family back together.
i have an idea now i might use for a grotesque sortof underground underdark pokemon league. a drow competing with her prized fleshwarps, a mindflayer bringing his favorite experiments and intelect devourers, a necromancer raising skeletons and ghosts, anything is fair game. maybe the players have to compete in this and are given the choice either to fight for themselves or find some creative way to create a competitor and coach it.
You showed Nissa while talking about restoring an Irnakurse back to its original form and that is kinda what happened to her. She git completed and was one of the only walkers to be unphyrexified. Neat little coincidence
1 A church is a conventional religious organization. 2 A sect is a deviant religious organization with traditional beliefs and practices. 3 A cult is a deviant religious organization with novel beliefs and practices..... If Drow are a subspecies of elf, then Lolth is running a cult.
@@llewelynshingler2173 Lolth is the Drow’s main deity she would be the equivalent to in the Greek gods Zeus….so church not a cult. Cults are splinter groups that do not represent the main body of a group of people religious beliefs💯
Hey Dungeon Dad, did you just do a Lazy Town opening, lol. I remember watching that show with my kids, when they were younger, they are grown now. That guy you used for your opening was the Villain and main Star of the show. He ended up taking his own life. Sad ending to a great kids show. Video Ideas: Barney the Bard, Illithid Teletubbies and Clifford the (Giant's) Big Red Dog. I know of a monster 👹, that is only legend and it has no stats, it's Canon, one of the oldest and most mysterious monster in all edition of D&D. I bet this one would even stump AJ. Thanks Dungeon Dad for the great video and you have a wonderful day!
In a game I'm playing at the moment, the DM had us investigate missing elves in an elvish settlement. Turns out the drow under the city were kidnapping elven nobles and turning them into Driders. We are now allied with a high elf drider who wants to return to normal life, so she assists us in our home base (helps crew our airship, its a steampunky setting) and my wizard has promised to find a way to turn her back. We're currently 15th level, so True Polymorph is probably on the table, and I love the idea of us promising to help save a fleshwarped creature from a dreadful fate, even if this one is more just scarred than truly monstrous
I had the impression that the drider transformation is a kind of divine curse. That it was inflicted only on drow and as a show of utter scorn by Lolth. Of course nothing stopping udadrow from only giving those high elves in your game just a vaguely spider like shape...
@@jacobfreeman5444 Yeah, that's the lore for them usually and I believe it's true in this game's setting too. As far as I recall, she wasn't the result of a standard drider transformation, more an unpleasant experiment by the Drow that captured her. I suppose she might not be considered a "true" drider by lore, so much as someone who has been artificially made into something functionally the same. On a side note, that game is still going and we've just hit level 16 having had about 5 sessions in the past year. Hooray for scheduling difficulties. I hope we can transform our drider friend back soon, one more level.
Kind of really want a player character stat block for these. There's never enough high detail curses to inflict on your character (or your players' characters).
I can imagine a Irnakurse where the High Elf was escaping from Mind Flayers as to try & get healing as they had been selected for Ceremorphosis. Imagine that flesh warped abomination with a Mind Flayer larva growing inside. I can picture it QUICKLY wiping out the Udadrow who created it, & then perhaps finding other Imakurse to have undergo Ceremorphosis, thus creating a new nightmare in the Illithid's war against the Drow to rule the Underdark. I can imagine the lowerhalf of a Imakurse-Illithid having suckers on a dozen or so tentacles with tiny teeth on the bottom to clutch both locks, & others that are smooth to glide them over both rocky & smooth surfaces quickly. I can also imagine them fusing together to make the Elder Brain mobile in these wars, perhaps building bridges from the Far Realm homeland of the Mind Flayers to the Demonweb Pits themselves & turning a good chunk of that section of the Abyss into a giant neural network of nightmares.
@@DungeonDad I've always imagined Mind Flayers as more of parts of a super-organism like a bee hive or ant colony than individuals. The TRUE individual is the whole colony led by the Elder Brain, the individual Illithid is just the equivalent of a Dendrite in the nervous system, controlling the slaves IE muscles & other organs. This is what happens when you mix knowledge of neurobiology & D&D.
I played a once a week campaign of 3.5 and pathfinder for 1 year with my tabletop group . My character was a half gnome/ half far-spawn fleshwarp sorcerer. Was one of the most fun characters ever. But once we got up into the higher levels it was so hard to remember all the shit I could do. lol
I think this could go really well as a begining part of a quest where these are showing up. Tons other flesh warpy creatures and creatures that are messed up and the part has to begin hunting down to figure out where these are coming from and it is a sibrix.
The irnakurse sounds like something Baphomet would create. You could have Baphomet sending adventurers to punish the followers of Lloth for IP infringement.
The reason this was so hard to find is because Second Darkness is a very early Pathfinder Adventure Path, it's not even using the Pathfinder 1e system yet because that didn't exist. it's 3.5 and it's considered one of the worst Adventure Paths they made, even if there are some good ideas in there.
Ouch, an wisdom draining aura with a wisdom save to resist, so that it gets more and more difficult to resist, as well as a stun that's wisdom to resist. That can go bad for a party SO fast.
I've never been so compelled to add a creature into my game before; my spin is going to turn them into faux trees that become revealed when the party enters 30 feet of them. Finding themselves in a swarm of these in a frozen forest.
I can't find anywhere that Lolth was ever imported to Pathfinder. EDIT: This from James Jacobs, creative director of Paizo: "Deities like Lolth, Ghaunadar, Eilistraee (my favorite FR god, btw!), and the rest are, in any case, off limits to us since they're owned by Wizards of the Coast and are pretty integral to their campaign settings."
High elf adventurer with CIP (congenital insesitivity to pain) who gets Irnakurse’d but keeps their mind and they decide to just sort of continue going on adventures with their party. Put them in a cart pulled by some tamed aberration to alleviate the low movement speed.
An idea I just had, a magical researcher asks for a volunteer to be transformed into an ernicursed and than transforms the volunteer back to interview the experience
One thing to note - ability score damage in pathfinder doesn't automatically kill you at 0. Going by the d20PFSRD, "Wisdom: Damage to your Wisdom score causes you to take penalties on Wisdom-based skill checks and Will saving throws. This penalty also applies to any spell DCs based on Wisdom. A character with a Wisdom score of 0 is incapable of rational thought and is unconscious." So having the 5e version of the irnakurse kill with it's scream is actually worse than the 'default' version.
I love body horror but the only campaign I might return to has a player that probably wouldn’t have fun with anything as fear inducing as a chaos beast but… who knows what the future holds.
Have you ever done anything on the emotional elementals that exist? They are all interesting and work off of a single emotional trait. They have an attack that is basically concentrated emotional energy and they are not truly physical in nature.
Pathfinder monsters can also be found pretty easily on archive of nethys, but this is year from past so you probably know it by now :D (second darkness is 3.5 irnakurse, 1e irnakurse was in bestiary 4, pathfinder 2e version is in bestiary 2) (2e abomination vaults' fleshwarping article had nice action shots of these next to iconic, they pretty big :D )
Hey I'm kinda liking the lobster claw those Flesh Warpers gave me (I mean it could've been put on straighter but it hurt a lot, so was I squirming). And yeah it could've been somewhere else other than my left cheek, but it's grown on me now.
Wanna mess up a party real good? Have some high elves ask that the party rescue their missing children. When the party makes it to where they're being held, (depending on how long they take to get there etc) more and more of the children were converted into smaller versions of these things.
Only half as terrifying as dealing with Drukari(dark eldar of warhammer 40k) or dealing with chaos, but by the void this is stil messed up. I will definitely enjoy theowing this at my party.
Something ironically twisted would be some person thinking they can twist a devil's contract by being like I said you can have my body not my soul and this being the result.
Awesome video. You've convinced me to throw out the two lame-ish Invisible Stalkers hiding out and guarding the vault of the cloud giant Blagothkus and instead use 2 or 3 Irnakurses. I'll point out that the stat block doesn't describe the type of Bite damage, but we can all assume that'd be Piercing. Also, I had my players fight off a ghost with an Oathbow once and they were actually almost TPK'd by 3 or 4 banshees that were totally knocking out the cleric and it got tricky to track which banshee each player was immune to, as I read the stat block that a successful Wisdom saving throw grants immunity that THAT particular screaming or howling monster, not all of them in general. It definitely raises the stakes to be facing a small horde of creatures that can stun without even using their actions.... (Well, the banshees had to use their action for their Horrifying Visage, but those saving throws become so clutch!)
How about the Made in Abyss approach. Give them kind of good hp regeneration, then pair one with a friend they knew before they were turned who can't do enough damage to kill them. Have the party either fix them or kill them.
Yeah, Irnakurse's are freaky-deaky boyos... Fleshwarped are all kinds of fucked. Like, you want to know what they did with orcs? They're called Oronci, and they gave the things Centaur-esque features... Only replace the horse section with that of a *FUCKING CENTIPEDE* . Acid spit included.
Wait, that's not how Pathfinder Rend usually works. It's usually if they hit with two claw attacks in one turn, they just do one big extra burst of damage...
Good gracious that’s so scary great video by the way love your channel Imagine if you will a drow who made a few too many of these things and kept them at first in a. Trap for adventures only to open the hatch today red the beast to find the several irnicurse have become infected with an underlying fungal spore which assimilated them into a giant disaster that also leaks fungal spores and grows ins size and spreads like fungus over the area assimilating and devouring all it touches and the party exploring the underdark finds empty drow settlements covered in a strange fleshy substance which leaks spores and seems to be spreading and occasionally birthing fleshy miniature conglomerations the size of small spiders which are gathering any food in the area and bringing it back to what appears to be a large gilding but is actually the head of the combined irnacuree and its surrounding tendrils that have grown so large and now the adventures need to strap in and deal with this feature before it devours them or spreads further endangering other colonies and cities And to make matters worse its combined minds have given it some semblance of intellect while it can’t converse it repeats things such as greetings or begs for aid on a loop because it can’t articulate what’s wrong even though it wats to Heck if just go seek a. Wish spell or other item of power and cure the poor thing but that’s just me
You said this is something the cult of lollth makes out of high elves? I think they mentioned that it's possible to restore an irnakurse to its original form because a possible plot line could be to have a high elf member of your party be captured and twisted into one. The players are gonna want to restore them. This would be horribly dark but a really dramatic turn of events. If there's a near TPK in the underark, maybe where the party was fighting members of the cult, maybe it could be a plot line that the surviving member/s were unable to recover the body of their fallen high elf comrade for resurrection, maybe the cult got their hands on the body and twisted them. It could be an interesting way to get back a party member thought gone by having the party face them again as a monster and wonder If recovering them is even possible or they have to watch their friend die again, only this time by their own hands.
appearance wise it reminds me of this character called Saya from a JPN visual novel called "saya no uta"...to make a long story short though it's a warped flesh thing that makes Junji ito's artworks look like care bears.
It may be disturbing l, but i loved when my DM asked for an ugly horror and then i set this bad boy on the table and my DM and fellow party members all stopped and were in aw and were disgusted, then the DM gave a 👍" just what I needed".
My personal solution for the global amount of movement speed that this thing has is quite simple really just put it on wheels get an artificer to make it a wheelchair it just imagine this tentacle monster in some rusted metal wheelchair that's moving faster than what it should look like the chair could move it oh my players are going to love me
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An Irnakurse that escaped and is trying to return to its ancestral home from the few memories it has left might be a good hook.
I had to come back to this comment now because I had used this idea in my home game when I was designing it about a year and a half ago, and I FINALLY just wrapped up my little arc with the Irnakurse and my players loved it. This idea was gold. Super compelling and relatable for such a horrifying and otherworldly being.
Imagine a giant spider carrying one of these on its abdomen like some crabs do with sea anemone.
PRISON FOR YOU
Ok not going to be able to get that image out of my mind, no choice but to infect my players with it.
A sea variant to this encounter, spider crab with a bloated variant attached to it. Just imagine a crab the size of a parking space afloat in the sea because the irnakurse attached to it has swelled full of oxygen and hydrogen due to plankton having created colonies inside it for generations. A giant crab with a very creepy swim bladder.
Spider jockey moment
KRANG
A very tragic back story for a BBEG would be an elf who was "cured" of the flesh warping but is still very "broken" by the experience and is doing bad things secretly but protected by a revered status.
Dungeon Dad: "This video contains heavy themes of body horror, so if that's not your thing-"
Me: "SIGN ME THE FUCK UP"
A true hero
In DnD, the Drow have that awful tear each other and everyone not drow apart kind of evil. Rhexx did an awesome job covering them in comparison of their subjugation to Lloth. Pathfinder says: Hold my beer, we’ll show ya evil. Monsters like this fill in the gaps of why an entire people would continue to suffer the burdens of worshipping the Spider Queen.
Flesh warping is so creepy. I am getting fallout FEV vibes from this thing hardcore.
This creature of one of the few times where I did the opposite of monkey paw the wish spell. When the party found out what they really were.
They had found a ring of three wishes with one wish remaining and used it. I still remember how I ended the session.
"It takes courage to stare at the visceral face of evil to see it for how it truly is. The moment you say I wish to end their pain. The last gem cracks on the ring and the irnakurse fades as reality shifts.
You are all reminded of your first day as adventurers and what it means to be a hero that faces monsters. Perhaps the gods smile on the brave and the bold that tread where even angels fear to go.
Somewhere in the world, the pain begins to be washed away as the long unending nightmare at long last ends with the first rays of sunlight spills into an empty bedroom memorialized for a daughter lost in a raid. Before the drow came..
Before the horrors and the endless night.
High elf parents awaken as a alarm spell goes off and with anger born of grief they burst into their daughter's room. You can't save everyone but every once and a while. Due to the actions of an adventuring party and a selfless wish. The world gives back what was stolen.
Tahelia Starcrown nestles deep into her blankets deep in her reverie. When she wakes she will recall none of the cruelty fostered on her. And when she wakes the party's face will flash before her mind's eye for a heartbeat before she's ambushed with parental hugs and teary eyes."
This actually made me a bit teary eyed
Screw you for forcing emotions into my cold, stony heart like this...
This is beautiful...
This. This is beautiful. Thank you.
Damn!!
I can think of some ways to make it more horrific. Maybe combining it with some aspects of the Jibbering Mouther where it absorbed it's victims into it. Imagine a whole Elven community fused together to share and be the cause of eachothers suffering. Their was a creature like that in Role With Me. It didn't have a name other than the town it used to be.
You will 100% get the job as the new drow torturer. Brilliant
“Run!” screamed its living mouths. “Come!” cried its dead ones.
Mass elven suffering? sounds great
@@DungeonDad Us down at duergar incorporated are requesting for a transfer of them to the other underdark race
Abomination of llanowar??!
I think having the condition actually be reversible only adds to the tragedy and helps play into Lolth's twisted enjoyment of their suffering. If the transformation was permanent, it would be too complete a victory for the udadrow over their hated surface kin. An elven community who has lost a friend to this torment, who knows that powerful magic can actually reverse the process, are more likely to send heroes or war parties to try and rescue them. Lolth doesn't necessarily want the udadrow to win all the time. She wants all parties to bleed and suffer as much as possible. And this tiny glimmer of hope in restoring the irnakurse could be the most evil part of the whole situation.
I think that’s very astute!
Any species that makes grafts probably has a version of the irnakurse. Aboleths, beholders, demons, Illithids, and yuan-ti for sure.
Thanks for watching, catch you guys in the next one!
Stop trying to make "Udadrow" a "thing". It is like "fetch". Not gonna happen.
Best way to screw with your party is to have this creature have a moment of clarity where all its memories and consciousness comes flooding back. One second it is snapping and snarling and flailing about making hideous gurgles, then out of nowhere the colour returns to the eyes a look of sorrow and panic. Before a panicked plea from the internal mouth. "OH CORRELON! PLEASE HELP ME! please, my name is Cormyn of house Raerdrimne. They took me, they took (pained wail) I can feel it all, I see it all, help me, help me, please heell.... RRREEEEIIIIIIAIAAAAGGGGHHH"
Then back into combat as the creature screams. Let the party know there is a consciousness alive inside the thing. Mess them up.
Oh yes. That is how these need to be used.
Slight adjustment: Instead of having it wail at you with it's mouth, (it can't articulate after all), have it use its empathic trait while it's attacking.
Then, as you describe what the player is being forced to feel, add something along the lines of a horrifying and desperate plea for help.
Personally, I imagine these things are always screaming something horrible, their mouths are just twisted beyond function. You know how if you reverse the screams of a headcrab zombie, it sounds like they're screaming "Help! God, help! Help me!"? Its like that.
Ah yes, to go through daily desensitization as an adventurer.
Just noticed that a second Irnakurse would have to make its own Wisdom save or loss Wisdom and get stunned (probably ending its Soul Scream).
I'd assume that only non-aberrant creature have to make their saves. (Saves time from making rolls for the monsters stunning themselves stupid).
Good catch, I should update the stat block to include some wording about that.
@@DungeonDad Maybe another way to cure them is this, you encounter a trio of Priestesses of Lolth that are doing the transformations. You kill them but have to capture the blood of them or remove their heads with minimal waste of the blood/damage to the brains. You then must splash the blood on the victims or sacrifice the heads in a Sacred Brazier, either way the magics/tortures that created these creatures gets released and cures them.
I just want you to know you are the reason my players are going to have nightmares. My players are in the underdark about to infiltrate a drow city for multiple reasons, but one of my players is a desert elf that is trying to save thier people from the drow who raided the pc's tribe. I am going to have this be a desert elf that was transformed into this because that elf tried to escape being a slave. Perfect one being a bit ironic and even more tradgic. Thank you sincerly.
Hell yeah, that’s perfect!
2:40, me as a Warhammer 40k fan, “oh boy imagine if he ever finds out what a Dark Eldar Homonculus is”.
should note, for context for descriptions and comments: pathfinder drow don't worship lolth. they do often worship evil beings(such as lamashtu, mazmezz, other demon lords, and occasionally the lawful zon kuthon), but not much widely specific, so most of what fucked up things they do is all them.
Fleshwarping always reminds me of the Daelkyr, I'm surprised you didn't mention them considering this would be their jam.
"...It's not gonna have two gross mouths that are overlapping each oth--WHAT IS THAT?! WHAT IS THAT?! WHY?!"
I dunno, mate, but that happened a lot in Bleach. Will admit, this one is definitely worse, though XD
Oooof, I just noticed the elf ears on that thing
Wow. I'm so cruel at times. Lol the party goes all murder hobo on this poor creatures. On the moment of death of this creature. Using that reverse Troi ability and the last glimmer of who they where before the transformation. The player that lands the killing blow. Receives a blast of mental .... emotional mess of overwhelming relief and thank you for ending the torture.
I think it would stop the players in their tracks and think about things.
Or talk with the wizard and use the wizard as a tactical nuke. Lol
For some reason. During to their movement speed being 10. Lol evil druid uses them like trees in a grove of their creation.
Wow as the gears turn.
Yay, it's converted. All of the stats can be found in Bestiary 4 on pages 101 to 105. This includes the other fleshwarped creatures for troglodytes, vegepygmies, and humans.
Good to know! Sourcing some of the pathfinder stuff is tough
I love discovering lovely lil abominations from beyond sanity like this
It was wild to listen as you say "couldn't find a statblock" while showing the link to the subpage on the screen. It was literally RIGHT in front of you.
I'm just imagining what it would be like if you were born as a high elf with your soul reincarnated from a irnacerst, the visions you'd have to experience while in trance..... No way that won't have a lasting effect, even after death.
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Trying to cure one does sound really interesting. What if you could only cure the body OR the mind? Which is better, an insane elf or a sane monster?
A real dilemma. I feel like the same monster would just go mad again, but honestly having a sane irnakurse who just hangs out and is like “yep, I’m Kyle, what’s up guys” is so funny to me
@@DungeonDad Hey, before you go in guys, I should mention that elder Theloniar has kind of a... condition. He's quite self-conscious so try not to stare.
If you remove the source of the trauma then you could potentially gradually fix the mind as well through mundane psychotherapy.
@@DungeonDad on the other hand it'll make your party a bit... Interesting lol
Your plothooks have been really helpful for me as a beginner DM. Great job, man!
Glad to hear it!
Ooh, flesh mending sounds a lot like Elaine's magic in Death of a Darklord! I can definitely see an encounter with one of these in Kartakass post book after she's slipped further into madness and has had time honing her craft trying to bring her family back together.
When you described it’s screaming I just thought about the Wall Guardians from Dead Space and their perpetual, tormented, screams.
i have an idea now i might use for a grotesque sortof underground underdark pokemon league. a drow competing with her prized fleshwarps, a mindflayer bringing his favorite experiments and intelect devourers, a necromancer raising skeletons and ghosts, anything is fair game. maybe the players have to compete in this and are given the choice either to fight for themselves or find some creative way to create a competitor and coach it.
Very cool man ..well done for covering that monster... Hey ..I'm a D.M already ten years and would love to have you covering the RHEMORAZ .
You showed Nissa while talking about restoring an Irnakurse back to its original form and that is kinda what happened to her. She git completed and was one of the only walkers to be unphyrexified. Neat little coincidence
That actually is really funny! Good catch all this time later
But didn't Nissa also have a part in releasing the eldrazi later on?
Lolth is the primary Deity of Drow so it’s the Church not a Cult👍🏼👍🏼🕸🕷💯
Said the Drow.... But yeah, point taken, FWIW the cult of Pelor is no better haha
Given that Lolth is a being of Chaos, I don't know if she can form a Church. Many Multiple Cults, maybe.
1 A church is a conventional religious organization. 2 A sect is a deviant religious organization with traditional beliefs and practices. 3 A cult is a deviant religious organization with novel beliefs and practices..... If Drow are a subspecies of elf, then Lolth is running a cult.
@@llewelynshingler2173 Lolth is the Drow’s main deity she would be the equivalent to in the Greek gods Zeus….so church not a cult. Cults are splinter groups that do not represent the main body of a group of people religious beliefs💯
@@adamholcomb1906 I see your points. I take it that the Drow who follow Eilistraee are said to be in a cult, though a benevolent one?
Hey Dungeon Dad, did you just do a Lazy Town opening, lol. I remember watching that show with my kids, when they were younger, they are grown now. That guy you used for your opening was the Villain and main Star of the show. He ended up taking his own life. Sad ending to a great kids show. Video Ideas: Barney the Bard, Illithid Teletubbies and Clifford the (Giant's) Big Red Dog.
I know of a monster 👹, that is only legend and it has no stats, it's Canon, one of the oldest and most mysterious monster in all edition of D&D. I bet this one would even stump AJ.
Thanks Dungeon Dad for the great video and you have a wonderful day!
Sounds like your average day in Warhammer. Damn Drukari.
You had me at vile, now please continue.
Mmmmmmm these traits are just perfect to add to my BBGG... yes, Big Bad (or Benevolent, depending on how the players approach him) Good Guy
An average Tuesday in 40k
In a game I'm playing at the moment, the DM had us investigate missing elves in an elvish settlement. Turns out the drow under the city were kidnapping elven nobles and turning them into Driders. We are now allied with a high elf drider who wants to return to normal life, so she assists us in our home base (helps crew our airship, its a steampunky setting) and my wizard has promised to find a way to turn her back. We're currently 15th level, so True Polymorph is probably on the table, and I love the idea of us promising to help save a fleshwarped creature from a dreadful fate, even if this one is more just scarred than truly monstrous
I had the impression that the drider transformation is a kind of divine curse. That it was inflicted only on drow and as a show of utter scorn by Lolth. Of course nothing stopping udadrow from only giving those high elves in your game just a vaguely spider like shape...
@@jacobfreeman5444 Yeah, that's the lore for them usually and I believe it's true in this game's setting too. As far as I recall, she wasn't the result of a standard drider transformation, more an unpleasant experiment by the Drow that captured her. I suppose she might not be considered a "true" drider by lore, so much as someone who has been artificially made into something functionally the same.
On a side note, that game is still going and we've just hit level 16 having had about 5 sessions in the past year. Hooray for scheduling difficulties. I hope we can transform our drider friend back soon, one more level.
"Ermahgerd" - David Cronenberg
Classic David
Wow, this is totally intriguing but I probably don't have the stomach to run this thing.
did anyone else think of Aldia: Scholar of The First Sin when looking at this video's thumbnail or is that just me?
Geeeee thanks dungeon dad this shall hunt my dreams for ever.
I really love this channel, I just recently found it.
Actually, "Perfect One" sounds like a mocking, sarcastic term, as if the High Elves are the "Perfect Ones," and now they are horrific monsters.
Given the ungodly hate of high elves by wicked drow, makes sense
You should do drakainia from pathfinder it's in the beastiary 4
Kind of really want a player character stat block for these. There's never enough high detail curses to inflict on your character (or your players' characters).
I can imagine a Irnakurse where the High Elf was escaping from Mind Flayers as to try & get healing as they had been selected for Ceremorphosis. Imagine that flesh warped abomination with a Mind Flayer larva growing inside. I can picture it QUICKLY wiping out the Udadrow who created it, & then perhaps finding other Imakurse to have undergo Ceremorphosis, thus creating a new nightmare in the Illithid's war against the Drow to rule the Underdark. I can imagine the lowerhalf of a Imakurse-Illithid having suckers on a dozen or so tentacles with tiny teeth on the bottom to clutch both locks, & others that are smooth to glide them over both rocky & smooth surfaces quickly. I can also imagine them fusing together to make the Elder Brain mobile in these wars, perhaps building bridges from the Far Realm homeland of the Mind Flayers to the Demonweb Pits themselves & turning a good chunk of that section of the Abyss into a giant neural network of nightmares.
Holy shit yes
@@DungeonDad I've always imagined Mind Flayers as more of parts of a super-organism like a bee hive or ant colony than individuals. The TRUE individual is the whole colony led by the Elder Brain, the individual Illithid is just the equivalent of a Dendrite in the nervous system, controlling the slaves IE muscles & other organs. This is what happens when you mix knowledge of neurobiology & D&D.
This would be a great way to shoehorn a new player's character into the party if they happen to have built an elf with PTSD
Sounds like something you would need a spell that could calm it down with for long enough for you to fix it.
I played a once a week campaign of 3.5 and pathfinder for 1 year with my tabletop group . My character was a half gnome/ half far-spawn fleshwarp sorcerer. Was one of the most fun characters ever. But once we got up into the higher levels it was so hard to remember all the shit I could do. lol
I think this could go really well as a begining part of a quest where these are showing up. Tons other flesh warpy creatures and creatures that are messed up and the part has to begin hunting down to figure out where these are coming from and it is a sibrix.
Very interesting. Nice video.
The irnakurse sounds like something Baphomet would create. You could have Baphomet sending adventurers to punish the followers of Lloth for IP infringement.
Lolth about to get DEMONetized.
The reason this was so hard to find is because Second Darkness is a very early Pathfinder Adventure Path, it's not even using the Pathfinder 1e system yet because that didn't exist. it's 3.5 and it's considered one of the worst Adventure Paths they made, even if there are some good ideas in there.
Ouch, an wisdom draining aura with a wisdom save to resist, so that it gets more and more difficult to resist, as well as a stun that's wisdom to resist. That can go bad for a party SO fast.
I've never been so compelled to add a creature into my game before; my spin is going to turn them into faux trees that become revealed when the party enters 30 feet of them. Finding themselves in a swarm of these in a frozen forest.
When I saw that name, I figured someone started from I'm A Curse, to Imakurse, then just split the "m" into "r" and "n".
I can't find anywhere that Lolth was ever imported to Pathfinder.
EDIT: This from James Jacobs, creative director of Paizo:
"Deities like Lolth, Ghaunadar, Eilistraee (my favorite FR god, btw!), and the rest are, in any case, off limits to us since they're owned by Wizards of the Coast and are pretty integral to their campaign settings."
Oh man, in my setting ive been working on theres basically a plague of flesh warping going on.
High elf adventurer with CIP (congenital insesitivity to pain) who gets Irnakurse’d but keeps their mind and they decide to just sort of continue going on adventures with their party. Put them in a cart pulled by some tamed aberration to alleviate the low movement speed.
An idea I just had, a magical researcher asks for a volunteer to be transformed into an ernicursed and than transforms the volunteer back to interview the experience
One thing to note - ability score damage in pathfinder doesn't automatically kill you at 0. Going by the d20PFSRD, "Wisdom: Damage to your Wisdom score causes you to take penalties on Wisdom-based skill checks and Will saving throws. This penalty also applies to any spell DCs based on Wisdom. A character with a Wisdom score of 0 is incapable of rational thought and is unconscious."
So having the 5e version of the irnakurse kill with it's scream is actually worse than the 'default' version.
I love body horror but the only campaign I might return to has a player that probably wouldn’t have fun with anything as fear inducing as a chaos beast but… who knows what the future holds.
Have you ever done anything on the emotional elementals that exist? They are all interesting and work off of a single emotional trait. They have an attack that is basically concentrated emotional energy and they are not truly physical in nature.
Pathfinder monsters can also be found pretty easily on archive of nethys, but this is year from past so you probably know it by now :D (second darkness is 3.5 irnakurse, 1e irnakurse was in bestiary 4, pathfinder 2e version is in bestiary 2)
(2e abomination vaults' fleshwarping article had nice action shots of these next to iconic, they pretty big :D )
Hey I'm kinda liking the lobster claw those Flesh Warpers gave me (I mean it could've been put on straighter but it hurt a lot, so was I squirming). And yeah it could've been somewhere else other than my left cheek, but it's grown on me now.
Wanna mess up a party real good? Have some high elves ask that the party rescue their missing children. When the party makes it to where they're being held, (depending on how long they take to get there etc) more and more of the children were converted into smaller versions of these things.
Only half as terrifying as dealing with Drukari(dark eldar of warhammer 40k) or dealing with chaos, but by the void this is stil messed up. I will definitely enjoy theowing this at my party.
Something ironically twisted would be some person thinking they can twist a devil's contract by being like I said you can have my body not my soul and this being the result.
Thanks.
"body horror and all kinds of nastiness" joke's on you that's the kind of monster I am looking for xD
Awesome video. You've convinced me to throw out the two lame-ish Invisible Stalkers hiding out and guarding the vault of the cloud giant Blagothkus and instead use 2 or 3 Irnakurses.
I'll point out that the stat block doesn't describe the type of Bite damage, but we can all assume that'd be Piercing.
Also, I had my players fight off a ghost with an Oathbow once and they were actually almost TPK'd by 3 or 4 banshees that were totally knocking out the cleric and it got tricky to track which banshee each player was immune to, as I read the stat block that a successful Wisdom saving throw grants immunity that THAT particular screaming or howling monster, not all of them in general. It definitely raises the stakes to be facing a small horde of creatures that can stun without even using their actions.... (Well, the banshees had to use their action for their Horrifying Visage, but those saving throws become so clutch!)
That sounds like magnificent chaos
I'm going to be using one of these as a minion of a deity called the non-existent one
mad scientist: ITS ALIVE ALIVE MWHAHAH
HOW WONDERFULL
HOW DEADLY
How about the Made in Abyss approach. Give them kind of good hp regeneration, then pair one with a friend they knew before they were turned who can't do enough damage to kill them. Have the party either fix them or kill them.
Yeah, Irnakurse's are freaky-deaky boyos...
Fleshwarped are all kinds of fucked. Like, you want to know what they did with orcs? They're called Oronci, and they gave the things Centaur-esque features... Only replace the horse section with that of a *FUCKING CENTIPEDE* . Acid spit included.
the D & D primordial "human centipede"
Waauuugghh!! It looks like Scorn!!
Wait, that's not how Pathfinder Rend usually works. It's usually if they hit with two claw attacks in one turn, they just do one big extra burst of damage...
Good gracious that’s so scary great video by the way love your channel
Imagine if you will a drow who made a few too many of these things and kept them at first in a. Trap for adventures only to open the hatch today red the beast to find the several irnicurse have become infected with an underlying fungal spore which assimilated them into a giant disaster that also leaks fungal spores and grows ins size and spreads like fungus over the area assimilating and devouring all it touches and the party exploring the underdark finds empty drow settlements covered in a strange fleshy substance which leaks spores and seems to be spreading and occasionally birthing fleshy miniature conglomerations the size of small spiders which are gathering any food in the area and bringing it back to what appears to be a large gilding but is actually the head of the combined irnacuree and its surrounding tendrils that have grown so large and now the adventures need to strap in and deal with this feature before it devours them or spreads further endangering other colonies and cities
And to make matters worse its combined minds have given it some semblance of intellect while it can’t converse it repeats things such as greetings or begs for aid on a loop because it can’t articulate what’s wrong even though it wats to
Heck if just go seek a. Wish spell or other item of power and cure the poor thing but that’s just me
This would work well in a far realm campaign.
(Any/all)
You said this is something the cult of lollth makes out of high elves? I think they mentioned that it's possible to restore an irnakurse to its original form because a possible plot line could be to have a high elf member of your party be captured and twisted into one. The players are gonna want to restore them. This would be horribly dark but a really dramatic turn of events. If there's a near TPK in the underark, maybe where the party was fighting members of the cult, maybe it could be a plot line that the surviving member/s were unable to recover the body of their fallen high elf comrade for resurrection, maybe the cult got their hands on the body and twisted them. It could be an interesting way to get back a party member thought gone by having the party face them again as a monster and wonder If recovering them is even possible or they have to watch their friend die again, only this time by their own hands.
You should look into the game Nightbane and the class Flesh Sculptor.
Sweet, horrors beyond my comprehension.
appearance wise it reminds me of this character called Saya from a JPN visual novel called "saya no uta"...to make a long story short though it's a warped flesh thing that makes Junji ito's artworks look like care bears.
The Master think he slick. Unity and such.
It may be disturbing l, but i loved when my DM asked for an ugly horror and then i set this bad boy on the table and my DM and fellow party members all stopped and were in aw and were disgusted, then the DM gave a 👍" just what I needed".
peronelly i would use this for a horror setting
It looks like the Engineer from the original Hellraiser movie, lol.
Do we have a stat block for the person making writing these monsters into existence? Can we get a 5e translation for the writers!
lol
why do I hear guzzlord's screaming from pokemon sun and moon anime
The mouth opens
AND THEN IT OPENS AGAIN
This reminds me so much of Melkiah from Soul Reaver
I think I'll do this to a character's love interest. That'd be funny.
Of course since it's an elf and they reincarnate it's probably more of a mercy to just kill them so they can start over.
My personal solution for the global amount of movement speed that this thing has is quite simple really just put it on wheels get an artificer to make it a wheelchair it just imagine this tentacle monster in some rusted metal wheelchair that's moving faster than what it should look like the chair could move it
oh my players are going to love me
Reminds me of the demonculaba IFYKYK