Buddy Rich and Johnny Carson were lifelong friends, and Johnny was himself a drum enthusiast. He had a drum set in his house that Buddy gave him as a gift.
My uncle and a friend were waiting off stage after one of Buddy's shows and got the "opposite" autograph treatment: Buddy was in a great mood after his performance and when he walked by, jokingly said, "Hey, how about an autograph?" My uncle told me he "jokingly" replied, "Sorry, no autographs," to Buddy.
I asked Buddy's lead trumpet player if he would ask Buddy to sign an autograph for me between sets in Jimmy's in NYC in '73, and the dude told me to take a walk. I was 13 and was devastated. Later years I learned that the guy (I think it was Lin Biviano) had no choice, because Buddy would have fired him right there. So fast forward to 18 years old, I am smoking a butt outside an auditorium and Buddy is jonesing for a ciggy and sees me while he's in his little Mercedes and starts trying to get my attention to come over. Hey Kid stuff, playing fast singles on the side of the car door with the window down. I just ignored him. I could not take a chance that he would crush me again.
@@loucontino4804 I saw Buddy at SeaWorld in Florida in the late 70's. The gig was at "Shamu's Stadium" where the killer whale shows were held in a huge aquarium. The band was set up on a floating stage and sound conditions were less than stellar. The band played well, but it was obvious that Buddy was not pleased with the set up. When the gig was over, Buddy stormed down the gang plank and walked right past me. I had my copy of "Roar of '74" and asked him to sign it. His reply: "Fuck off, kid!" and he stomped off. I was 19 at the time, loved Buddy and was crushed. Looking back, however, the story that Buddy gifted to me that day was WAY better than his autograph. Thank you, Mr. Rich!
@@jimstewart1080 Well, he offered the gift of wisdom: from then on, you knew that people can be fantastic in one thing an a total dissapointment in another..
OVER FOUR DECADES AGO, ... and nearly all of them are now long gone. gives one pause to ponder mortality and priorities and values. Johnny had the greatest run on TV of all time. EVERYONE who was ANYONE wanted to be on his Show. Buddy was always interesting, difficult, and a challenge. Johnny really admired his amazing talent & energy.
Yeah well, Doc's still with us, Lew Tabakin, as well. Shaughnessy gone, as well as Ross Tompkins, & Johnny & Ed of course. A lotta those guys used to hang out & play at Donte's.
Obnoxious. Don't care how good he is, was .... Carson was excellent. Rich would not be asked back on today's late nights. I always thought music was mot supposed to be a race. He was way out on front;but then again, I am self taught and not Berkeley. Parlance total class not hurting rich.
I had met buddy as a teen after a show. he was very cordial to me, but I was soo nervous, I forgot to ask for his autograph. But, I did get one years later.
I got Buddy to sign a vintage Slingerland snare drum (in Marine White Pearl), and had a fairly newcalfskin head on it. I, along with other fans, were allowed to board his touring bus and get his autograph. I was tempted to just give this drum to Buddy, he really liked it, but I figured he had others just like it. He was nice and pleasant, but he was clearly exhausted. Thus was a free concert Buddy gave at Middle TN State Univ., in the late 1980s. He played those restored Slingerland Radio King's that Joe Sweeney did for him at Eames Drums. It was the best I ever heard Buddy.
Yes noticed that! But then Rich could be very disrespectful and arrogant at times. I wonder what he said right at the end to Jack Palance that was bleeped out.
@@paulherlihy9290 I don't like Buddy attitude at all. He's not gracious and friendly to other guests. H e could have said to Palance "Oh really, that's good to hear that you play drum" No! He had to be the alpha drummer. Buddy may have said to Palance "You are the queen" that bleeped out. Jack is someone you don't want to mess around IMO, but he held back with a smile knowing that fact.
Buddy was a tough guy to get along with, but there’s no denying he was a great drummer with a huge personality and ego. He made every talk show more interesting though. The world misses talent like this.
@@douglasmurphy9127 he was a jazz purist, and was of "the big band" "swing band" Era. I can understand why he felt some or much of "Country Music" was hOky and overly sentimental. Glen Campbell and John Denver were great crossover artists. I think Buddy could have appreciated their musical contributions.
It ain't braggin' if you can back it up. Buddy had it all...control, speed, time, chops, feel...did I mention time?...and was hands down the best drummer ever. I love Ginger, Carl Palmer, Billy Cobham, Bill Bruford...but Buddy stands alone.
@@chrisjones4352 three totally different styles. Now I don’t know what the criteria is for a great drummer but I do know what sounds exciting to my ears. Guys like Palmer and Peart don’t bring me back as much as Paice. I guess it depends on the style of music.
Rich taught many of my drummers. I wouldn’t allow him home, but he was THE BIGGEST in big band. No doubt about it. Watch his left hand for 1:30 mins. He’s genious level.
I played at Jack Palance's daughters wedding held at the Beverly Hills Hotel on Sunset Blvd in Beverly Hills. Kenny Loggins was also there. It was a fun music affair among the world of celebrities in Hollywood. in the 1980's.
Reading down through these comments, I think that a lot of people did not quite recognize that the banter between Rich and Palance was actually a friendly banter. People would insult each other back and forth in the past as a humorous endeavor. Most people today are too sensitive to understand this, but these were tough people that lived through (real) tough times. They all understood the jokes when this interview happened.
True. Of course about all they live for is "Likes" on their sjw comments. Palance and Rich were born in the aftermath of WWI, dragged around by the great depression, propelled into WWII, then when they thought things were finally going to be easy, endured 50 years of Cold War. A little bit of back and forth insult humor was nothing more than an enjoyable side pursuit. Little virtue signaling sjw's have no clue how it was and never will.
Well!, that’s an a assumption!!!! You don’t know what relationship they had!!! Maybe they didn’t like each other!! I know one thing, though!! Palance would have given Rich a beating if it got physical!! Jack was a big guy & Buddy was a little squirt!!!!
When bell bottom jeans came in,, Buddy Rich just remind me when I play drums you had to roll them up so they wouldn't get caught in the foot pedal, he just reminded me of that,,time has really gone by
Or beat the crap out of Buddy for a little while. "I didn't need to play drums professionally, because I have MANY talents. Unlike you who just has the one..." I'd be much happier getting a handshake from Jack Palance than an autograph from Buddy Rick. What an asshole.
Oh yes. I was hoping Jack would knock his teeth down his throat for being such an ignorant putz. When he asked Jack if he ever acted professionally, I thought that was going to be the end of the little bastard. But sadly Jack had too much class and charisma to smash the little prick. Regardless of Rich having his black belt, Jack would have crushed him very easily. I would be big money on Jack. RIch was not the greatest drummer I ever saw and is a figment of his own imagination. Who gives a flying fuck what he thinks about anything? He knows nothing about anything other than jazz. Big deal. Drugs killed him. Idiot that he was. But he was a great drummer. Of that there is no doubt.
Jack Palance (Municipio de Hazle, Pensilvania, Estados Unidos, 18 de febrero de 1919[1] - Montecito, California, Estados Unidos, 10 de noviembre de 2006) fue un actor estadounidense ganador de los premios Óscar y Globo de Oro. Célebre por sus papeles de villano al interpretar personajes de duros, malos o psicópatas.
Tenor sax soloist is Lew Tabackin who, until a few years ago, co-led a great big band for many years with his wife Toshiko Akiyoshi starting in the 70's. It was called the Toshiko Akiyoshi-Lew Tabackin Big Band. Toshiko was the band's pianist, composer and arranger and she was the first woman in jazz history to have a library of her own music and her own band to play it. And Lew is also one of the greatest flautists in jazz history. One of my very favorite big bands ever with a unique sound and wonderful compositions.
There's a You Tube channel with episodes of What's My Line and Toshiko Akioshi was the Mystery Guest and Steve Allen was on the panel and he booked her to be on his show right then and there because of her talent
I had a chance to meet them and their beautiful daughter when I was working security in a NYC hotel. I was the only one to recognize them but they were so sweet.
@@bholaoates1542 The daughter was gorgeous. Very tall, like 5 10. They were happy that I recognized them. Normally security is not to interact but I just had to tell them what a big fan I was.
I think it has more to do with how he has them set up. Slingerland's have the built in dampeners and he apparently relied on them to a great degree. I have an old Slingerland kit that I love because they are so big and loud sounding. Of course I disengage the dampeners except in my snare.
Michael Aitchison Yes! i noticed that!! I don’t think they liked each other for some reason!! Got tense there for sure!! Could be buddy didn’t respect him as a musician!!
This was not his best Tonight Show appearance for sure, but I am amazed by the footage! Where did it come from? So clear and with the commercials! I know Johnny owned his tapes and literally kept them all in an old Salt Mine (super dry environment, perfect for this type of storage)
Great to see Buddy actually on a properly set up kit and not the rubbish they made him play on sometimes. Wrongly setup and not tuned ...Love his Slingerlands here 👍🏿
@@morbidmanmusic You obviously haven’t seen all his videos.. Double rack toms,..which he never used in his own set up. Terrible tuning…obviously done by someone else…as it wasn’t his usual sound. Buddy could play brilliantly on anything served up to him.
Anyone else notice? The overhead mic was way too low over the center of the set and Buddy struck it twice before it hung loose out the mic holder. It was soo close to the ride cymbal when Buddy would crash the ride it had that washed out sound plus Buddy looked annoyed.
He was such a cocky so and so...and he missed a few of the band stabs at the end of the performance...maybe should have practiced? (teehee) But boy, does he play well...and you would never even notice due to his incredibly fast reactions and ability to improvise. An amazing drummer!!
Frost...... When Buddy Rich enters he shakes Steve Allen's hand but there is no acknowledgement whatsoever with Jack Palance. I wonder what Buddy retorted to Jack on the theme of "which Queen"? They clearly detested each other. Palance was classy, Rich was gritty Thanks for posting Btw...Drano Instant Plunger. It fucking WORKED🤜🤛
Buddy was into creativity - like a constipated man on a toilet. The final product, although complicated, and because of so much work, was greatly, greatly, ... appreciated.
In response to Jack's barb, "Which queen was that?" he retorted, "The one on your show." Calling attention to earlier in Palance's interview about how his show "Bronk" was doing an episode with a gay character.
I could swear I heard stereo sound, particularly after the commercial break as the band was playing Johnny back in. Stereo television in 1975? I didn’t remember that.
BR played a set of concert toms briefly with his Ludwig kit in the early 80s. An example is on the album "Man from Planet Jazz", Live from Ronnie Scott 1980.
This was B4 guitarist Bob Bain, bassist Joel DiBartolo, & saxophonist Pete Christlieb started doing the show. I don't know who those guys are! I notice his set, supplied by ProDrum, utilized a Sound King wood snare this time. The same snare I believe he used on the Mercy Mercy album. One rehearsal & Buddy had this chart memorized. His usual amazing self!
Drumuitar Pearl was never an endorser of Buddy’s. I wonder if they ever tried. I would have liked Buddy to play Ed’s concert tom Pearls at the back. It would have been an interesting sound.
There is a video from this period of Buddy's career where he does sit and play Shaughnessy's kit. It was a spot on to the point where even Buddy said Doc had a great band. I don't think Buddy liked Doc Severnson too much though.
Well when you have hundreds of people telling you "Your the greatest Buddy" "God Buddy, your the hottest. boy " you tend to be cocky. Wonder what he said to Jack ?
Buddy was a musical snob at the very least. Perhaps he didn't understand that it was the early dance bands of the 1910s and 1920s (including the Lombardos) that established the business model which allowed his chosen profession to exist and, if played correctly, to become a highly lucrative one. BTW, Buddy's first band was a financial failure and only lasted about 2 years. He then had to go back to being a sideman for quite a long time before he was able to muster the nerve and money to start up another band of his own. None of his bands were ever as popular or monetarily successful as that of Guy Lombardo.
@@bobtaylor170 It was not a matter of preferring. You could like both equally for different reasons. They weren't exactly trying to serve the same tastes in music or general entertainment. Buddy disses the dancing crowd and the Lombardo approach, but it is probably mostly because his bands were never well-positioned to compete in that very large market. Successful people (especially egotistical ones like Buddy) often downplay what they wanted but were unable to obtain in life, and denigrate those that have achieved their unreachable goals. I think that might be a big part of what is going on there.
Any high-school jazz ban can play Guy Lombardo's arrangements - they're boring. Big-band bubble-gum - much like Lawrence Welk - very sad actually. Musical hospice lmao
Us lefty drummers must stick together; no pun intended…Aside from his excellent as a Trappist, he was a tough SOB…Buddy was a US Marine & had a Black Belt in Karate…Don’t think he was easily pushed around….He comes from my hometown in Brooklyn, where you had to be tough to survive…Old & sick, he still played till the very end, where most other musicians would’ve quit…Very complex man…One of his major attributes was his foot speed; hardly ever mentioned…I learned on a single bass kit & double bass later on…I can tell you most drummers wish they could play a double bass kit half as fast & accurate as Buddy did with a single pedal…
One of the last shows I saw Buddy play, he did this thing with the drumstick in his right hand, where he'd reach down and play his bass drum with it, along with his right foot. and it would sound like double bass drums. Unbelievable! True genius.
@@rickrick5041 He missed a whole lot of accents and just didn't follow the contours of the admittedly difficult arrangement in a way that was as musical as he usually is.
I wish Jack had said "I played drums but not such a small set as yours, my drum kit was much much bigger". I saw the movie "Whiplash" there was a poster of Buddy with a quote that said "For drummers that can't play Jazz there is always Rock & Roll" Gene Kruppa seemed much more nicer.
Johnny is normally so gracious and they were supposedly friends, but it's a little frosty out there. Even he thought Buddy was a jerk. He keeps trying to provoke him, because at this point in their careers there's nothing Buddy can do to him. So Buddy tries to give it to Doc and then Jack Palance. One of my favorite Buddy jokes: "What has three legs and an asshole?" "Buddy Rich's drum throne."
As much as I love him....Buddy didn't exactly endear himself to anyone prior to his time at the drums. That was Buddy, but it could sure come across as caustic at times.
The ladies in Hollywood seem to love him. I'm always coming across remarks from actresses he dated back in the day who have nothing but great things to say about him... "Wonderful guy", "What a gentleman", etc.
Buddy Rich was playing with and insulting the wrong guy in Jack Palance. He was very mild mannered and polite. He did one armed pushups at the Oscars when he was 72. He was 6’ 3 1/4 and a former boxer. IMdB says: Athletics was his ticket out of the mines when he won a football scholarship to the University of North Carolina. He subsequently dropped out to try his hand at professional boxing. Fighting under the name "Jack Brazzo", he won his first 15 fights, 12 by knockout, before losing a 4th round decision to future heavyweight contender Joe Baksi on December 17, 1940. With the outbreak of World War II, his boxing career ended and his military career began, serving in the Army Air Force as a bomber pilot.
That's what I thought. Buddy was barking up a wrong tree. It was not a squirrel up there,, it was a big cougar aka Palance looking at Buddy and smiled. As a trainer I could tell Buddy is not in a good health with his smoking habit.
@@rickrick5041 I knew that but it doesn't mean much if he didn't practice. Plus Palance was a heavy competitive boxer and was very fit guy. At 71 he did 1 arm push up for many reps during Academy broadcast live. Buddy ran his mouth and acted smart. I can see how calm Palance was, that's someone you must not act smart around or insult
I didnt get when Buddy said the bands today are better. Better than? Basie/ Ellington/ eslecially Chick Webb whom buddy idolizedi he was what he was because he was from that era. I think he was awesome drummer but not the GOAT
That mike over the ride is way out of place. It was suppose to be an over head. Notice when he crashes ride how loud it is compared to the rest of the set, its distorted.
Jack Palance (Municipio de Hazle, Pensilvania, Estados Unidos, 18 de febrero de 1919[1] - Montecito, California, Estados Unidos, 10 de noviembre de 2006) fue un actor estadounidense ganador de los premios Óscar y Globo de Oro. Célebre por sus papeles de villano al interpretar personajes de duros, malos o psicópatas.
Yes Buddy Rich was definitely referencing gays with the whole 'queen' thing. I fear he may have taken it far and hinted to Jack Palance that Palance himself was a queen? That would have been awful
@@MrGb1965 Jack was strong as an Ox and twice the size of Buddy. Jack would've folded him like a pretzel. But even a crippled Buddy would probably still destroy everyone on drums lol.
Buddy Rich and Johnny Carson were lifelong friends, and Johnny was himself a drum enthusiast. He had a drum set in his house that Buddy gave him as a gift.
They were very similar people; both were known for their bad temper, quick wit and intellect.
The Tonight Show Band NEVER disappointed me.
I liked them better when they talked, ie; Doc and Tommy Newsome were funny!!
they were pretty tight. no doubt about it.
A big band comprised of flawless allstars!
My uncle and a friend were waiting off stage after one of Buddy's shows and got the "opposite" autograph treatment: Buddy was in a great mood after his performance and when he walked by, jokingly said, "Hey, how about an autograph?"
My uncle told me he "jokingly" replied, "Sorry, no autographs," to Buddy.
Excellent!
I asked Buddy's lead trumpet player if he would ask Buddy to sign an autograph for me between sets in Jimmy's in NYC in '73, and the dude told me to take a walk. I was 13 and was devastated. Later years I learned that the guy (I think it was Lin Biviano) had no choice, because Buddy would have fired him right there. So fast forward to 18 years old, I am smoking a butt outside an auditorium and Buddy is jonesing for a ciggy and sees me while he's in his little Mercedes and starts trying to get my attention to come over. Hey Kid stuff, playing fast singles on the side of the car door with the window down. I just ignored him. I could not take a chance that he would crush me again.
@@loucontino4804 I saw Buddy at SeaWorld in Florida in the late 70's. The gig was at "Shamu's Stadium" where the killer whale shows were held in a huge aquarium. The band was set up on a floating stage and sound conditions were less than stellar. The band played well, but it was obvious that Buddy was not pleased with the set up. When the gig was over, Buddy stormed down the gang plank and walked right past me. I had my copy of "Roar of '74" and asked him to sign it. His reply: "Fuck off, kid!" and he stomped off. I was 19 at the time, loved Buddy and was crushed. Looking back, however, the story that Buddy gifted to me that day was WAY better than his autograph. Thank you, Mr. Rich!
@@loucontino4804 Nicely played
@@jimstewart1080 Well, he offered the gift of wisdom: from then on, you knew that people can be fantastic in one thing an a total dissapointment in another..
OVER FOUR DECADES AGO, ... and nearly all of them are now long gone.
gives one pause to ponder mortality and priorities and values.
Johnny had the greatest run on TV of all time. EVERYONE who was ANYONE wanted to be on his Show.
Buddy was always interesting, difficult, and a challenge. Johnny really admired his amazing talent & energy.
Yeah well, Doc's still with us, Lew Tabakin, as well. Shaughnessy gone, as well as Ross Tompkins, & Johnny & Ed of course. A lotta those guys used to hang out & play at Donte's.
Yeah Doc is 95 and still going strong. Still goes to the gym, lifts weights etc.
"You look good, Shaughnessy. I'm gonna leave this with you." Points to toupee, referring to Shaughnessy's permed hair. Priceless.
"toupee"
Obnoxious. Don't care how good he is, was .... Carson was excellent.
Rich would not be asked back on today's late nights. I always thought music was mot supposed to be a race. He was way out on front;but then again, I am self taught and not Berkeley. Parlance total class not hurting rich.
I had met buddy as a teen after a show. he was very cordial to me, but I was soo nervous, I forgot to ask for his autograph. But, I did get one years later.
I got Buddy to sign a vintage Slingerland snare drum (in Marine White Pearl), and had a fairly newcalfskin head on it. I, along with other fans, were allowed to board his touring bus and get his autograph. I was tempted to just give this drum to Buddy, he really liked it, but I figured he had others just like it. He was nice and pleasant, but he was clearly exhausted. Thus was a free concert Buddy gave at Middle TN State Univ., in the late 1980s. He played those restored Slingerland Radio King's that Joe Sweeney did for him at Eames Drums. It was the best I ever heard Buddy.
Did you notice Buddy Rich never shook Jack palance's hand.
Yes noticed that! But then Rich could be very disrespectful and arrogant at times. I wonder what he said right at the end to Jack Palance that was bleeped out.
@@paulherlihy9290 I wonder too
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My guess would be "Liberace."
Palance said "Which one?" (referring to Buddy mentioning The Queen).
@@modernretroradio993what does it mean tho? Like how is it insulting
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I don't like Buddy attitude at all. He's not gracious and friendly to other guests. H e could have said to Palance "Oh really, that's good to hear that you play drum" No! He had to be the alpha drummer. Buddy may have said to Palance "You are the queen" that bleeped out. Jack is someone you don't want to mess around IMO, but he held back with a smile knowing that fact.
Buddy was a tough guy to get along with, but there’s no denying he was a great drummer with a huge personality and ego. He made every talk show more interesting though. The world misses talent like this.
True. but Buddy tended too much toward just plain nastiness and even cruel remarks. a shame. but he really was a tremendous talent with the drums.
@@leonardohummel8658 yes and he ridiculed country music
@@douglasmurphy9127 he was a jazz purist, and was of "the big band" "swing band" Era. I can understand why he felt some or much of "Country Music" was hOky and overly sentimental. Glen Campbell and John Denver were great crossover artists. I think Buddy could have appreciated their musical contributions.
Len Hummel I think he said something insulting about Glen Campbell on another show
@@rickrick5041 BUDDY SAYS SOMETHING INSULTING TO EVERYONE HE MEETS SO THATS NOT UNUSUAL !!!!!!!
It ain't braggin' if you can back it up. Buddy had it all...control, speed, time, chops, feel...did I mention time?...and was hands down the best drummer ever. I love Ginger, Carl Palmer, Billy Cobham, Bill Bruford...but Buddy stands alone.
Ian Paice.
Paice was good. Peart was great. Buddy was the absolute pinnacle. Very top of the mountain.
@@chrisjones4352 three totally different styles. Now I don’t know what the criteria is for a great drummer but I do know what sounds exciting to my ears. Guys like Palmer and Peart don’t bring me back as much as Paice. I guess it depends on the style of music.
honorable mention to Dennis Chambers
Rich taught many of my drummers. I wouldn’t allow him home, but he was THE BIGGEST in big band. No doubt about it. Watch his left hand for 1:30 mins. He’s genious level.
I played at Jack Palance's daughters wedding held at the Beverly Hills Hotel on Sunset Blvd in Beverly Hills. Kenny Loggins was also there. It was a fun music affair among the world of celebrities in Hollywood. in the 1980's.
Reading down through these comments, I think that a lot of people did not quite recognize that the banter between Rich and Palance was actually a friendly banter. People would insult each other back and forth in the past as a humorous endeavor. Most people today are too sensitive to understand this, but these were tough people that lived through (real) tough times. They all understood the jokes when this interview happened.
True. Of course about all they live for is "Likes" on their sjw comments.
Palance and Rich were born in the aftermath of WWI, dragged around by the great depression, propelled into WWII, then when they thought things were finally going to be easy, endured 50 years of Cold War. A little bit of back and forth insult humor was nothing more than an enjoyable side pursuit.
Little virtue signaling sjw's have no clue how it was and never will.
Well!, that’s an a assumption!!!!
You don’t know what relationship
they had!!! Maybe they didn’t like
each other!! I know one thing, though!! Palance would have given
Rich a beating if it got physical!!
Jack was a big guy & Buddy was
a little squirt!!!!
agree...
I disagree. Look at Johnny eyes before it ended. His eyes told a different story like "Oh well, it could have gone ugly' glancing at big Palance
When I came home from Vietnam in 71 after a concert i talked to his drum tech/right hand man.he loved buddy and buddy loved him.
I think he wanted to take Palance outside and show him what it's like
When bell bottom jeans came in,, Buddy Rich just remind me when I play drums you had to roll them up so they wouldn't get caught in the foot pedal, he just reminded me of that,,time has really gone by
yas!!!
Yeah ! I always carried rubber bands to tie the bell bottoms up..lol..
@@rodneybrand8521 ONLY FUCKING DORKS , DWEEBS , BRAIN DEAD IDIOTS , AND COMPLETE ASSHOLES USE THE < L > TERM !!!!!!!!!!!
or for biking. either rubber bands, in your socks, or that weird metal clamp.
I would love to watch Jack Palance play drums and harmonica
Or beat the crap out of Buddy for a little while. "I didn't need to play drums professionally, because I have MANY talents. Unlike you who just has the one..."
I'd be much happier getting a handshake from Jack Palance than an autograph from Buddy Rick.
What an asshole.
Who was Jack Palance referring to that time when he told this person "I crap bigger turds than YOU"?
This is a great interview, I feel like a time-travelller....buddy was a huuuuge influence
Only Carson could make an unfunny situation funny. Thanks for the post.
He will never die
Buddy just cutting up and being a clown... That solo was SMOKIN....!!
Everyone thinks Buddy was a phenomenal drummer.he is an inspiration to any drummers who have the ability to understand how great he played.
the commercials are pure gold
yes, except the youtube commercial that popped right in the middle of Buddy's solo on my end.
He sure is full of himself But he sure the hell could play the hell out of those drums.
Small man's syndrome, but that was just Buddy. He and Sinatra used to get into such fights.
Buddy was a Black Belt as well.
Johnny....you are a genius ...RIP
@Bob Peterson what the fuck
@Bob Peterson ...well no ones perfect...except JC
Bob Peterson Then everyone should be
jack palance looks like he could stomp buddy at any second--jack is huge
Seems Steve Allen was taller!
TJ And a former boxer
Oh yes. I was hoping Jack would knock his teeth down his throat for being such an ignorant putz. When he asked Jack if he ever acted professionally, I thought that was going to be the end of the little bastard. But sadly Jack had too much class and charisma to smash the little prick. Regardless of Rich having his black belt, Jack would have crushed him very easily. I would be big money on Jack. RIch was not the greatest drummer I ever saw and is a figment of his own imagination. Who gives a flying fuck what he thinks about anything? He knows nothing about anything other than jazz. Big deal. Drugs killed him. Idiot that he was. But he was a great drummer. Of that there is no doubt.
Jack Palance (Municipio de Hazle, Pensilvania, Estados Unidos, 18 de febrero de 1919[1] - Montecito, California, Estados Unidos, 10 de noviembre de 2006) fue un actor estadounidense ganador de los premios Óscar y Globo de Oro. Célebre por sus papeles de villano al interpretar personajes de duros, malos o psicópatas.
foodfudd I’m glad you liked him.
Tenor sax soloist is Lew Tabackin who, until a few years ago, co-led a great big band for many years with his wife Toshiko Akiyoshi starting in the 70's. It was called the Toshiko Akiyoshi-Lew Tabackin Big Band. Toshiko was the band's pianist, composer and arranger and she was the first woman in jazz history to have a library of her own music and her own band to play it. And Lew is also one of the greatest flautists in jazz history. One of my very favorite big bands ever with a unique sound and wonderful compositions.
There's a You Tube channel with episodes of What's My Line and Toshiko Akioshi was the Mystery Guest and Steve Allen was on the panel and he booked her to be on his show right then and there because of her talent
@@matthewgray469 Wow, really? I'll have to look that up. Thanks. Steve Allen was a great guy.
I had a chance to meet them and their beautiful daughter when I was working security in a NYC hotel. I was the only one to recognize them but they were so sweet.
@@imilliemedina666 Man, how cool is that? I always thought they were a lovely couple. I didn't know they had any children.
@@bholaoates1542 The daughter was gorgeous. Very tall, like 5 10. They were happy that I recognized them. Normally security is not to interact but I just had to tell them what a big fan I was.
Who came here after the remastered bus tapes
Thanks for this. Never saw it before. That's 2 for 2, including his hilarious cutup from the 11/29/72 show you posted earlier.
I sure miss the days when you didn't have to be a pretty face to be a celebrity. Back then true talent and originality mattered.
Yea, that and there was no pc outrage culture... you could actually make money from music...
Rob Johnson Yeah because Buddy Rich was as ghastly inside as outside. What a perfect bitch.
Who are you referring to? Buddy Rich was ugly, yes, and he was a horrific drum player. Thousands have come along since who have put him to shame!
Joseph Usher Are you kidding?
@@JosephUsher Said no actual drummer ever.
He did say in the 1970's that he thought alot of Chicago the band's drummer Danny
And the quality is top notch also.
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DRUMUITAR,was the guitarist shown Walt Namuth?Bob Bain used to be in the Tonight show orchestra but that does not look like him.Any ideas.
crazy combover Johnny.....still miss it!! RIP.....
Slingerlands had a beautiful warm sound, but didn’t appear to be as loud as Buddy’s Ludwigs or Rogers.
I think it has more to do with how he has them set up. Slingerland's have the built in dampeners and he apparently relied on them to a great degree. I have an old Slingerland kit that I love because they are so big and loud sounding. Of course I disengage the dampeners except in my snare.
Ludwig and Rogers hoops are triple flanged which projects louder than Slingerlands' stick saver hoops that curve inward.
Or Buddies favorite Fibes snare drum that sounded fantastic.
@@marcrogers1051 They may be now, but Ludwig hoops were junk back in the day.
Roy Beckerman
Good observation.I came to the same conclusion
Then we will see how he does up there without all the assistance ... and he did real good !
No love lost between Palance and Rich. They don't shake when Rich enters. Seems kind of tense.
Steve Allen was a fellow jazz musician. That's why Buddy shook his hand.
they said hello to each other. Jack said, 'hello buddy' and buddy said 'how ya doing jack;
Michael Aitchison Yes! i noticed that!! I don’t think they liked each other for some reason!! Got tense there for sure!! Could be buddy
didn’t respect him as a musician!!
@alterdestiny The bad news is, you have tin ears. If Palance was anywhere near as good as Buddy he'd be Laurence Olivier.
Jake was obviously a good judge of character.
Notice the concert toms Ed was using in the background. Very much a 70s thing.
Can’t recall Buddy ever playing concert toms.
he did in the early 80s, check out the album "man from planet jazz" from 1980 where he uses a set of concert toms left of the hi hat.
Amazing buzz roll with accents!!!
cold.....no warmup!! Fucking incredible!!!!!!
I love that his backdrop is the beautiful ocean and not a dumb city scape like most late shows.
His put down of Palance was ridiculous, Carson rescued as only he can, true class
Yes classless
This was not his best Tonight Show appearance for sure, but I am amazed by the footage! Where did it come from? So clear and with the commercials! I know Johnny owned his tapes and literally kept them all in an old Salt Mine (super dry environment, perfect for this type of storage)
Great to see Buddy actually on a properly set up kit and not the rubbish they made him play on sometimes.
Wrongly setup and not tuned ...Love his Slingerlands here 👍🏿
@@morbidmanmusic
You obviously haven’t seen all his videos..
Double rack toms,..which he never used in his own set up.
Terrible tuning…obviously done by someone else…as it wasn’t his usual sound.
Buddy could play brilliantly on anything served up to him.
Nobody , I mean nobody can play like him - truly amazing
Jesus Palance was a physically big guy
I saw Jack Palance in an Airport once in Chicago ,he seemed pleased that we recognized him and waved.
I believe it was in 1985
Yes and a coal miner then a professional boxer before he got into acting.
@@hughmanatee7657 and a drummer and harmonica player
Johnny was a pretty good drummer too.
Anyone else notice? The overhead mic was way too low over the center of the set and Buddy struck it twice before it hung loose out the mic holder. It was soo close to the ride cymbal when Buddy would crash the ride it had that washed out sound plus Buddy looked annoyed.
Buddy Rich: “ ...this guy...he’s not my kinda guy...”
Original quote: “You’re not my kind of people - at all.”
He was such a cocky so and so...and he missed a few of the band stabs at the end of the performance...maybe should have practiced? (teehee) But boy, does he play well...and you would never even notice due to his incredibly fast reactions and ability to improvise. An amazing drummer!!
INCREDIBLE ! ! ! (from >>>Didier d'Agostino DRUMMER "shuffle funky groove " ) TOTAL FAN OF BUDDY RICH !
Buddy rich always jaw dropping. One of a kind.
The Draino and Excedrin commercials were more interesting than the interview
Lol!!! I was just thinking that! Maybe all Rich needed was a Draino enema!!
@@hurdygurdyguy1 He was quite arrogant right?
He was such a self confidence man bcuz he must of lacked it but he was the best
He made dusty Springfields life a misery in America and she was a fine singer. Only thought his opinion on music and singers counted.
Frost...... When Buddy Rich enters he shakes Steve Allen's hand but there is no acknowledgement whatsoever with Jack Palance. I wonder what Buddy retorted to Jack on the theme of "which Queen"?
They clearly detested each other. Palance was classy, Rich was gritty
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Buddy's response was "The one on your show."
Buddy was into creativity - like a constipated man on a toilet. The final product, although complicated, and because of so much work, was greatly, greatly, ... appreciated.
Palance checks his watch at 14:06 - speaks volumes :-/
how much longer do I have to sit next to this colossal asshole
And so does Doc Severenson's expression at 3:13
Buddy is from Brooklyn, like Don Rickles, and has that same brusque personality from that era.
The Cocaine also helped A LOT.
Brusque, or asshole as I like to call them.
He's still the street kid, he just did music the way the Mafia boys did crime.
@@jonbaker3728 no, if you grew up in Brooklyn in the 1930"s&1940"s you had to be tough to survive
"to Jewish-American parents Bess Skolnik and Robert Rich, both vaudevillians", what explains a lot.
Buddy Rich was a musical snob. He did not tolerate other musical tastes.
And that is why we have good big band music now. Each music style has its snobs.
Ask a Country&Western fan if he/she tolerates modern big band jazz :)
Yawn...
Buddy Rich was a musical genius
@@tomjones239 MORON TOM
I wonder what Buddy said when they bleeped him out.
Was it about a queen on Hollywood boulevard? Trying to read lips, who knows
Whatever he said you can see Jack's face flush red immediately.
In response to Jack's barb, "Which queen was that?" he retorted, "The one on your show." Calling attention to earlier in Palance's interview about how his show "Bronk" was doing an episode with a gay character.
I could swear I heard stereo sound, particularly after the commercial break as the band was playing Johnny back in. Stereo television in 1975? I didn’t remember that.
Jack Palance looks like a guy you don't wanna mess with haha - Buddy's lucky he didn't get bitch slapped . . .
I believe Jack Palance, Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef are pretty much the top 3 guys you don't want to antagonize
Jack Palance would have squashed B.R !! Jack almost became a professional boxer!!! Rich was just a half assed black
belt!!!!!
Damn that man could swing a band.
Buddy's left hand is just inhuman
Notice the bottomless toms in the background on Ed’s Pearl kit.
Very popular in the 70s, but not by Buddy.
BR played a set of concert toms briefly with his Ludwig kit in the early 80s. An example is on the album "Man from Planet Jazz", Live from Ronnie Scott 1980.
This was B4 guitarist Bob Bain, bassist Joel DiBartolo, & saxophonist Pete Christlieb started doing the show. I don't know who those guys are! I notice his set, supplied by ProDrum, utilized a Sound King wood snare this time. The same snare I believe he used on the Mercy Mercy album. One rehearsal & Buddy had this chart memorized. His usual amazing self!
Here's Burdy playing the same drum solo as he performed the last time he was a guest on The Tonight Show folks ...
Jack should have taken Buddy outside and shown him what it’s like.
Agree. Buddy was treating him like a high school jive artist.
Notice the Pearl kit at the back, with all the concert toms, which were very popular in the 70s.
Buddy was never into them.
Roy Beckerman it’s Ed Shaughnessy’s set
Drumuitar
Pearl was never an endorser of Buddy’s.
I wonder if they ever tried.
I would have liked Buddy to play Ed’s concert tom Pearls at the back.
It would have been an interesting sound.
@@roybeckerman9253 Buddy was not a fan of double bass kits. Buddy played a nearly simple kit with a couple extra cymbals
There is a video from this period of Buddy's career where he does sit and play Shaughnessy's kit. It was a spot on to the point where even Buddy said Doc had a great band. I don't think Buddy liked Doc Severnson too much though.
Glad he was an exceptional drummer.... I wouldn't have worked with him ...
Well when you have hundreds of people telling you "Your the greatest Buddy" "God Buddy, your the hottest. boy " you tend to be cocky. Wonder what he said to Jack ?
he said "BBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPP" to Jack🤓
Buddy was a musical snob at the very least. Perhaps he didn't understand that it was the early dance bands of the 1910s and 1920s (including the Lombardos) that established the business model which allowed his chosen profession to exist and, if played correctly, to become a highly lucrative one. BTW, Buddy's first band was a financial failure and only lasted about 2 years. He then had to go back to being a sideman for quite a long time before he was able to muster the nerve and money to start up another band of his own. None of his bands were ever as popular or monetarily successful as that of Guy Lombardo.
All that means is that the public's taste is reliably awful. Anyone who could prefer Lombardo's bands to Rich's was obviously not terribly bright.
@@bobtaylor170 It was not a matter of preferring. You could like both equally for different reasons. They weren't exactly trying to serve the same tastes in music or general entertainment. Buddy disses the dancing crowd and the Lombardo approach, but it is probably mostly because his bands were never well-positioned to compete in that very large market. Successful people (especially egotistical ones like Buddy) often downplay what they wanted but were unable to obtain in life, and denigrate those that have achieved their unreachable goals. I think that might be a big part of what is going on there.
Any high-school jazz ban can play Guy Lombardo's arrangements - they're boring.
Big-band bubble-gum - much like Lawrence Welk - very sad actually. Musical hospice lmao
@@jvh8806 Louis Armstrong didn't think so.
@@thegreatdominion949 If Pops had a big enough ear to listen to Lombardo and music outside the jazz idiom I admire and 💘 him all the more.
Us lefty drummers must stick together; no pun intended…Aside from his excellent as a Trappist, he was a tough SOB…Buddy was a US Marine & had a Black Belt in Karate…Don’t think he was easily pushed around….He comes from my hometown in Brooklyn, where you had to be tough to survive…Old & sick, he still played till the very end, where most other musicians would’ve quit…Very complex man…One of his major attributes was his foot speed; hardly ever mentioned…I learned on a single bass kit & double bass later on…I can tell you most drummers wish they could play a double bass kit half as fast & accurate as Buddy did with a single pedal…
One of the last shows I saw Buddy play, he did this thing with the drumstick in his right hand, where he'd reach down and play his bass drum with it, along with his right foot. and it would sound like double bass drums. Unbelievable! True genius.
Buddy obviously didn't know the chart well
maxim_hue Why?
@@rickrick5041 He missed a whole lot of accents and just didn't follow the contours of the admittedly difficult arrangement in a way that was as musical as he usually is.
@@bholaoates1542 Gotcha!
Steve Allen's on the show too.
I wish Jack had said "I played drums but not such a small set as yours, my drum kit was much much bigger".
I saw the movie "Whiplash" there was a poster of Buddy with a quote that said "For drummers that can't play Jazz there is always Rock & Roll" Gene Kruppa seemed much more nicer.
-more- nicer. or you could say more nice.
Johnny is normally so gracious and they were supposedly friends, but it's a little frosty out there. Even he thought Buddy was a jerk. He keeps trying to provoke him, because at this point in their careers there's nothing Buddy can do to him. So Buddy tries to give it to Doc and then Jack Palance. One of my favorite Buddy jokes: "What has three legs and an asshole?" "Buddy Rich's drum throne."
No, that was a time when men could bust on each other without crying like babies...do you need a tissue?
As much as I love him....Buddy didn't exactly endear himself to anyone prior to his time at the drums. That was Buddy, but it could sure come across as caustic at times.
gotta love when he lights up like it was nothing. Ahh. Those were the days. And David Janssen was one bad dude - for the 70's.
The ladies in Hollywood seem to love him. I'm always coming across remarks from actresses he dated back in the day who have nothing but great things to say about him... "Wonderful guy", "What a gentleman", etc.
Is there anything more 70s than this video? My god I want a time machine so bad! Love it!
We must require all Male celebrity guests on Talk Shows to wear turtleneck shirts with gold chain necklaces with medallions
They both eyeball the desk lighter 2:14 as he tosses a hot match 3:20 on the carpet..
Buddy Rich was playing with and insulting the wrong guy in Jack Palance. He was very mild mannered and polite. He did one armed pushups at the Oscars when he was 72. He was 6’ 3 1/4 and a former boxer. IMdB says:
Athletics was his ticket out of the mines when he won a football scholarship to the University of North Carolina. He subsequently dropped out to try his hand at professional boxing. Fighting under the name "Jack Brazzo", he won his first 15 fights, 12 by knockout, before losing a 4th round decision to future heavyweight contender Joe Baksi on December 17, 1940. With the outbreak of World War II, his boxing career ended and his military career began, serving in the Army Air Force as a bomber pilot.
That's what I thought. Buddy was barking up a wrong tree. It was not a squirrel up there,, it was a big cougar aka Palance looking at Buddy and smiled. As a trainer I could tell Buddy is not in a good health with his smoking habit.
@@calvinpham5547 He did have a black belt in karate
@@rickrick5041
I knew that but it doesn't mean much if he didn't practice. Plus Palance was a heavy competitive boxer and was very fit guy. At 71 he did 1 arm push up for many reps during Academy broadcast live. Buddy ran his mouth and acted smart. I can see how calm Palance was, that's someone you must not act smart around or insult
Best TV band ever!
Simply the Greatest Ever 👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️
Check out Ed’s concert toms in the background.
It was that 70s era.
That baritone sax!! ❤❤❤
I didnt get when Buddy said the bands today are better. Better than? Basie/ Ellington/ eslecially Chick Webb whom buddy idolizedi he was what he was because he was from that era. I think he was awesome drummer but not the GOAT
That mike over the ride is way out of place. It was suppose to be an over head. Notice when he crashes ride how loud it is compared to the rest of the set, its distorted.
That's because it fell out of it's clip and was hanging by the lead.
This appearance really brings out the ugly side of Buddy
JJPopNFresh, it brings out the Buddy who was, a strange but nonmalicious human being.
Agreed, probably the worst.
@@acegibson9533 Yep, waaaaay too many soy boy pussies out here now. Sad.
He does give the writer all the credit and goes out of his way to applaud him. He seemed almost embarrassed at the attention.
@@bigswingface5847 Is one of my favorite Buddy tunes. During the NY and LA concerts in his honor (I went to both), Vinnie Colaiuta played this one.
Palance would have pummeled Rich. He was a stone cold killer. For real.
The tie on David Jansen!
Ha ha yep !
And the fact that Richard Kimble is doing an ad for Excedrin. Lol
Yes, it seems that a tie knot as large as your fist was in vogue back then. As were jacket lapels that nearly touched your armpits.
Massive
@@jamesfeldman4234 The 1970"s was probably the most scary and toxic era for men's fashion in the history of the world
commercials are the best part!
Jack Palance!!!!!!!!!
He was so cool at the Oscars show:"Aahh, Billy Crystal, I crap bigger than you!"
Jack Palance (Municipio de Hazle, Pensilvania, Estados Unidos, 18 de febrero de 1919[1] - Montecito, California, Estados Unidos, 10 de noviembre de 2006) fue un actor estadounidense ganador de los premios Óscar y Globo de Oro. Célebre por sus papeles de villano al interpretar personajes de duros, malos o psicópatas.
pack of kents in hand
Cigarettes used to be cool, I quit years ago but I miss them terribly
Second time in the past year that I’ve watched this.
Great chart by Tommy Newsome.
Looks like it's in the library of congress lccn.loc.gov/2006568165 . If only it were digitally available, it sounds like a killer of a piece.
holly hell i hope he's not related to that dodgy CA governor
14:26 "The one on your show."
Good catch - I assume he was referring to Jack, as they obviously enjoyed ribbing one another.
I'd like to know what he said to Jack Palance at the end. Jack could be a scary guy.
Notice he didn't shake Jack's hand before he sat down.
SuperGogetem I just saw that. Why not?
Greg LaPointe Buddy Rich had a black belt in karate but Palance used to be a pro boxer.
Yes Buddy Rich was definitely referencing gays with the whole 'queen' thing. I fear he may have taken it far and hinted to Jack Palance that Palance himself was a queen? That would have been awful
I forgot about that but I’ll still take Palance
Palance and Rich did not seem to get along too well...LOL!
Both giving and taking a few shots...good thing it ended when it did.
Jack was just jealous that he couldn't play as well as Buddy.
He was an actor..stay an actor...what is funny is when you Wiki Palance.. no mention of drumming at all!
Palance was a gentleman, Rich was a street punk which he relished in because it kept the attention on him...
Big Bill O'Reilly You’re right although Rich had a black belt in karate
A guest lighting up and smoking on TV...... they'd have a stroke and all for an apology these days.
The tobacco drug killed them all.
Jack Palance was such a gentleman. He could have beat the shit out of buddy rich!
I believe Buddy had a black belt.
@@MrGb1965 Jack was strong as an Ox and twice the size of Buddy. Jack would've folded him like a pretzel. But even a crippled Buddy would probably still destroy everyone on drums lol.
@@MrGb1965That doesn’t mean shit!!! Palance would have squashed B.R. he was a boxer and much bigger!!!!
@@sticktrikbigger doesn’t mean shit.
@@cwinsten1 someone finally said it
Buddy Rich's need to constantly belittle others shows that he's aware he's not as good as people think he is.
I like the commercials.
next level..
I didnt know Buddy Rich was a raging maniac against his fellow band members 😅😅
Maybe it was because he was such a perfectionist he wanted them to be perfectionist too because he knew that they were capable of it.
he wasn't against them. simply prodding them along, in his own loving way.