It’s beyond me that Disney hasn’t done a what if series for star wars. There are so many more potential scenarios that they could have handled than they could ever with the MCU. A Star Wars What If series could easily run 7 to 10 seasons as there are endless potential episodes and any alternate revenge of the sith scenarios are fascinating to me as this movie specifically changed the landscape of the entire star wars galaxy so much.
Even though I am strongly Team Marvel instead of Star Wars, I couldnt agree more. No one ever asked what happened if T'CHalla became Star Lord and nobody really cared about what happened if a zombie apocalypse had broken out. Star Wars on the other hand would be so fucking great to see. Like you said 7 to 10 seasons EASILY. What if vader didn't burn, what if he killed Palpatine, what if Maul won in the beginning, what if Obi Wan teamed up with Dooku? And I'm not even creative here
I love Vader, amazing bad guy. But sometimes I wish Anakin just would have reached his full potential. I believe he would have destroyed the sith and transcended the Jedi. He would have ruled the universe. Vader is so strong with force only using one limb. Imagine a fully evolved Anakin with all his limbs
@@MsLanie No. Grey Jedi aren't a faction. They're just Jedi that don't follow the council. Anakin wouldn't have been able to use both the light, and dark(without consequences), as the fan fictions depicted them doing. The dark side is cancer. Is corrupts you.
I always thought that had Vader not burned, he would have been far more dangerous, not because of his Force powers, but because of his look. A Vader with Anakin's face and heroics behind him would wield far more political power than the masked enforcer that we saw in the main timeline. Plus, Anakin could be both sneaky and charming when he wished, as we saw several times in the Clone Wars, a Darth Vader with charm and subtlety would have been a far more lethal version, because he would not need fear alone to sway others to his cause.
Yes I agree. I read this years ago on a forum about alternative time lines. One user gave his interaction with Leia as an example. Instead of bringing her directly to a torture room, unburned Vader would likely use his charms and cunning to try and get information from her, maybe touring the Death Star and what not more like a dark prince than a brutal enforcer. I also feel like Vader would not be as hateful or self loathing had he not been burned. Canon Vader is always in a state of suffering due to the suit, Vader harnesses this pain to fall deeper into the Dark Side, becoming detached from his humanity and therefore hating himself more. I feel like unburned Vader would probably be a bit more like Count Dooku in the sense that he would dress well and use his good looks to charm and disarm people while being monstrously powerful. They always show Darkside users as being decayed and sickly, but if we want to get a little mythical with Anakin being the chosen one, they say Lucifer is beautiful after all.
@@DarthSideous63 theory's fan fiction favers the wamen over the bad white men, so... It would have been gold for KK. No seriously, I get how theory got to this fan fiction. And believe that he didn't mean anything bad by it. But this plot is easy to abuse by KK and her Akolythes...
I found the scene of him walking in his cloak with the clones with the glowing sith eyes much more menacing than anything I’ve seen vader do. It was just something special about it
@@oddgbmo3036 well I mean it’s not like 1-3 were made first. The whole “never reached his true potential” wasn’t a thing in A New Hope. Darth Vader’s appearance was what made him an iconic villain off the bat
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese no what I'm suggesting is power level chasing from anakin too angry to mind those around him eventually leading to him realizing who the true enemy is and so leading into anakin soloing the universe essentially. Just as Kratos did in his story for Greek mythology. Seeing an alternative timeline would be interesting. It's better than the mindless power already obtained right off the bat with Rey. Ofc this is all opinions
I don’t think it would be so hard for Vader to convince Luke to leave with him, if you remember in episode four Luke wanted to get off Tatooine and expressed interest in joining the empire.
Luke stated he hated the empire before Obi-Wan rescued him from the Tusken Raiders. Luke was planning to join the rebellion, not the empire's military.
We already have the What If Grind. The Old Expanded Universe. But I know what you mean. On the Big Screen. Which that would be interesting to see. The Expanded Universe (The Star Wars Multiverse) in Live Action or Animated.
I’m pretty sure that the Emperor even wanted Anakin to betray him at some point had he not lost to Obi-Wan. He was already preparing for Anakin’s rise to power and accepted the Sith tradition of the apprentice killing the master. He saw Anakin as a worthy replacement for his empire.
I think he’d at least try to transfer his force essence into Anakin‘s body. But I could see either playing out seeing as how palpatine once said that he would’ve been disappointed if Anakin never tried to kill him
Palpatine installed a weakness to lightning for a reason and continously had him surveyed by the royal guards. That and his back up body, palpatine didn't respect the rule of two. The inquisitors were further proof of this, and Maul, and Ventress. He was a self serving tyrant who disgraced the Sith of old. Maul and Vader would be the best duo in my opinion of master and apprentice with Vader as the master
I would want to see a “What If” of Anakin letting Mace kill Palpatine, and then another of Anakin never losing to Obi wan but staying with the dark side. I get the whole “his children showed him the Light”, but at the same time, seeing Anakin at his full potential, especially w the Dark side would be crazy
@@TheSolarium18 actually to be honest with you George Lucas said that Mace windu actually beat him if Anakin did not get involved he would have died there you can look that up...
Take into account that Anakin had a Sith artifact called the Amulet of Khan built directly into his right glove, meaning his right hand was literally indestructible. It also meant it was his most powerful asset in the entire suit. He could parry blaster bolts, lightsaber strikes, flames, electricity, and all variety of physical weaponry just by raising his right hand.
didn’t think i’d be crying my eyes out on the way to work this morning! this was BEAUTIFUL and just completely capturing! please please PLEASE animate this with some dialogue or even live action! this is truly one of the only ones that is worthy of a film!
It's stuff like this that just makes me annoyed that the force can seeminly do everything and nothing. You're talking about how Obi-Wan didn't have time to run down there and finish Anakin off, but why can't he just real quickly force push him into the lava or smth? Or even pull anakin up to him if he doesn't want to kill him via lava and thinks it'd be more humane to finish it with a lightsaber? I mean come on, he had ample time for a quick force push lol, he had time to yell at him and pick up the lightsaber after all. I think the only real explanation is that he didn't have the heart to finish off his friend and brother, and instead convinced himself that what he did was ok because he believed that it was the fire that killed Anakin, not himself. Just as a bit of self-assurance. Ultimately, this selfish act led to one of the greatest forces of evil the galaxy had ever known. How it be.
This reminds me of the cartoon where a female jedi had her lightsaber stolen and was trying to chase the thief down. The entire time I’m wondering why she doesn’t use the force to pull the lightsaber back.
Force is all about emotional control and mental fortitude. How is it hard to realize that Tiger Woods could either be amazing or horrible at his next match and you wouldn’t be surprised either way. Same with someone like Jordan playing for The Wizards.
@@mwm48 that seems unlikely, Obi-Wan treated Maul with the same respect at his death as he did Qui-Gon and Satine, and Maul is the one who took those 2 from him. Something tells me he wouldn't treat Anakin of all people worse than Maul.
Something to consider: I remember it being it stated that Vader post-Mustafar was still capable of surpassing Sidious despite his injuries. Vader’s own self-hatred and doubt kept him from reaching his true potential.
True, Sidious knew Anakin's anger and hatred wouldn't make him strong enough to otherthrow him, since only focus, love and compassion can beat hate, but it would make him strong enough to be used as his personal tool.
I believe it was actually stated somewhere that the reason Vader never used force lightning was due to the fact it would actually short out his life support system.
That's the EU, in the new comics Sidius used force lighting on Vader after. This happened right after the "noooo" scene, so in canon, Vader's suit should be fine using force lighting.
@@akoskormendi9711 In canon it also damage his life System, the difference is that the force Lightning that palapatine use in that comic werent intent to kill Vader
I love how his precognition worked in the Thrawn novels; he could see a few seconds ahead which allows him to block blaster bolts, and it's part of why he was so good with a lightsaber despite less training than anyone else.
Well, that's just the basic precognition just about every Force user has. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to block blaster bolts at all. Though I believe there are differences in how strong this is depending on the individual.
I genuinely LOVE this story more than the original! it would be so badass to see Vader at his full strength! and (to me personally) having both the twins learn the light and the dark side of the force makes so much more sense! To see Leia as a Jedi?!? to have them both face off with their father! I would love to see this version of events come to life!
technically he would be a force god full potental anakin could take on the son and daughter by himself if anything palpatine is the demi god as hes half of anakin and idk if its true but i saw somewhere ahsoka had half the potental of anakin as well so that would put her full potental on par with palpatine
Basically a God in the force, maybe not as powerful as Mortis Gods, but if he was on Mortis he would be as powerful as the Father. Yes, Anakin would be nigh-unstoppable.
Amazingly solid, and well told. I especially like how Luke doesn't swap fully to the light side in the end, allowing him and Leia to teach their school both sides, creating a better balance. Besides, I find it way more interesting when the force isn't so black and white.
I feel like his canon arc would have been better if they didn't do the main films, then the prequels. Because they did the prequels after they had to try and make a convincing story to get to the original trilogy. If it was made in timeline order they story would have been more well rounded.
@@commenterimjustacommenter yeah I agree thats the whole point of the phrase "There is still good in him" also I don't think Anakin would kill the Lars family
Man, that brought a tear to my eyes, amazing alternate storyline that makes perfect sense and would be in character for Anakin, would also lead to a better finale and redeem the "Anakin was the chosen one" by bringing ACTUAL balance in the force, meaning you can combine both the light and the dark to a balanced form, a grey area, which would become the ultimate force user.
I was expecting to hear about Vader with most of his potential eventually overthrowing the Emperor; and you lay out a treatment for alternate Episodes 4-6. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Do you notice that the body of vader's armor IS the same of anakin's clone Wars armor? In the First and Second season Of course, without the robotic chest
That could be a pretty complex one. Yoda strikes down Sidious, so in that case command of the clones would switch to Vader. So Yoda would have to begin building a resistance to the overwhelming Clone forces at this point if he had the energy to do so. Vader could also potentially save Padme, with Sidious gone and Obi-Wan dead, one wonders if Padme could have convinced him to leave the Dark side.
So there's actually a mod in Battlefront 2 which is called Lord Skywalker, which I will say is easily the coolest mod, where it's both Vader and Anakin combined, slow and intimidating while being charismatic and fierce, I know his ferocity grew more as Vader, but when he was still ferocious.
He kept it that way as punishment for what happened to his wife. But actually he does upgrade some of the armor himself still caused him discomfort and pain but atleast he was able to move better. Later on sidious was willing to upgrade all of his armor but there was a chance his life would be in danger from the surgery so he declined it
In legends (the original extended universe) the armor was very heavy, ill fitted, he would receive radio feedback from near by ships so he would hear a lot of sounds constantly. His skin would crack off and had to be applied artificial skin every so often and like sidious planned he didn't give him the best armor due to having him be punished to be constantly reminded of his lost of Padam and keep him on a leash to control him better as well strength his connection to the dark side. There were "attempt s" at Vader trying to upgrade his suit but the process would be too difficult for him how badly damaged his body was and to even transfer his body to a new suit would kill him. Which is why he never tried to do it since there would be no point to do that
Dude, I wish Disney would hire you to be in charge of a Star Wars animated series about these fan fiction scenarios by using the world’s between worlds (similar to the marvel what if series). It would be so cool, you would make one hell of a fun series
I feel as if Vader would treat Luke differently as he would’ve believed it was his only Son and would train him with less hatred than When he trained Galen Marek
@Helen🥂T[A]P Me!! to Have [𝐒]𝐄𝐗 With it would be interesting to see Luke and Vader travel across the galaxy quelling rebellions over the galaxy as Anakin/Vader would have a total disregard for politics
Anakin's turn back to the light in this is definitely solid. his entire nature was being fractured and fragile and it always came out in his most stressful moments.
I think Vader would have turned back to Anakin almost immediately after killing Palpatine. Without that evil old wretch I see him having almost no connection to the dark side because any attempt by Obi-Wan to turn him back would not have an opposing force keeping him dark. I think Vader fearing Palpatine was a big reason for him to not listen to Obi-Wan.
True, Palpatine’s manipulation was the biggest thing that drew him to the dark side besides the old Jedi council’s broken mindset. With both of those gone, Vader would almost naturally find tranquility, Palpatine wouldn’t be there, so there’s no one to keep telling him that it was his fault that Padme died, and he’d be able to finishing up his mourning and effectively move on, his guilt over Padme’s death was one of the things that KEPT him tied to the dark side
Once you go down that path you can’t just flip a switch. How Reva did it so fast was rushed into 6 episodes. It’s not so simple. It takes someone else to help you find your way. You don’t just go you know what? I’m done being evil. 😂
@@robhileman8890 when the objects that kept you evil and dragged you down are suddenly gone, the only place to go now is up. Palpatine, guilt over Padme (which Palpatine constantly highlighted), the Jedi council, these all pushed him to the dark side, now they’re gone, and he can move on. It starts with him finding peace that these problems are gone from his life, then a few months or years of contemplation and realization of how it was all really tied to Palpatine’s manipulation, and he’s the real problem, but he’s gone, so there’s nothing to worry about. Then remembering all the special people who were in his life, who he owes it to fix everything that he’s done
@@neroidius6915 you don’t know the power of the dark side! Palpatines absence only would encourage Anakin to be the master. He would find an apprentice and search dark ways to bring back Padme. It’s possible he finds something to bring him back but the corruption will not just let you go because everyone’s gone. It corrupts you and seduces you. It does not let go. Only by someone pulling you back do you turn from that power.
I think vader would taunt Obi wan that he knew he was protecting someone just like maul did. Also Owen and beru’s death would be brutal since vader hated them since his mom died on their watch
No, he’d not of slain them at all. Horrible writing , nor would he of let Ben die that easily. Nor could Leia magically of swayed Luke and her Dad. Hogswash. Doesn’t fit Anakin nor Vader’s personality and Leia isn’t a Marry Jane. Anakin would of enslaved Obi Wan , took his son left his aunt and uncle to suffer their miserable moister farming life. If Lei ever trained, she wouldn’t of but if and attempted to board the Death Star her dad or brother would of instantly killed her as they’d no reason not to and either is infinitely more powerful. Complete crap
This is some of the best writing I've heard for Star Wars fan fiction. And it makes me want them to re create the films with this storyline, Anakin not being burnt on Mustafar and raising Luke as a Sith apprentice.
Being at least 80% of the Emperor’s power is still a huge amount. I mean Sidious is OP. And Vader being second to him? Let’s be real, being 20% apart in power is not a huge gap. Vader’s strength in the force is still massive and he can overcome his limits if he taps into his anger.
@@Shadowrulzalways It really depends on how big the number we're talking about. Personally, I don't like this anime like approach to powerlevels. Giving them an arbitrary % doesn't mean much to me.
If Anakin hadn't burned, and I'd concur on this fan fiction up to a point, down to where he kills the emperor and becomes emperor himself. Another thing, without being burned, he'd have the "clairvoyance enough" that the burns and the suit limit him, to sense his children are alive. Also after killing the emperor, he wouldn't be so dark, maybe gray, so I think once he finds out, he'd find them and rule the galaxy together as father and children and maybe there'd be peace in the galaxy.
@@Noctifern He slaughtered Jedis that happened to be children but strong in the Force and potential threat to the emperor's plan, and remember he had at that point to collaborate with all the emperor's plans because he'd promised he had the only key to saving Padme and his child (or so he thought it was just one). He was not evil he just chose his wife and child over a few Padawans that could grow to slay him and his family eventually. I ask you, if you saw a future potential threat to you or your family, even if they're children, wouldn't you try to eliminate it before it's an imminent danger to your loved ones and not just a threat? I as a father know I surely would.
Palpating knew Anakin was his greatest threat so he befriended him as a child just to manipulate him and control him the rest of his life not only that but also his kids. Truly evil. I feel bad for Anakin
There's a theory which I believe is true. Palpatine impregnated Shmi using the force and midichlorians, which is why Anakin was born with the highest midichlorian count of any living being
That was actually a pretty good and emotional ending. I love the idea that Anakin still is taken by the fire but this time he chooses to be consumed by it. On Mustafar the fire represented his decent into evil now it represents his freedom from it.
General Kenobi, you are shorther than I remember you. Also, I have doubled my powers since the last time we met. Today you will pay for all the Siths that you killed.
@@generalgrievous7879 When we last met I had but the low ground. Now I have the high ground, and soon you will be no more. This is the end for you my Master.
As a kid who grew up with Star Wars in the 80's, my friends and I were always had the impression that the Emperor was the one that gave him the life threatening wounds. We knew he and Obi-Wan fought but figured he walked away with at least losing an arm or something. We figured the Emperor made Anakin fight him to prove his worthiness. It was the 80's so everything was speculation.
sick vid man! Disney really need to make a star wars what if its got so much potential, maybe they could incorporate some of your ideas as you deserve recognition for these!
Damn, love this! Loved all of it but especially the ending with how dark and light lessons were taught with balance in the force and how Aniken still did the right thing in the end for his family.
2:24 I disagree. Obi wan only let the fire take Anakin because he couldn't bring himself to do it. Thats why he turned away as he was burning. The shuttle showed up while/after he was on fire. Long after Kenobi walked away.
That was awesome. And I agree with the idea of bringing balance to the force would be Jedi and Sith teachings. Just minus the extreme stuff that creates the conflict.
I've always had this idea that when Palpatine told Vader that he had killed Padme, the shock snapped Anakin back to the light. Palpatine then used him as a template for clones and this/these clones are the ones we see in the films. After a number of years, Luke seeks out and rescues Anakin and........well, you can make it up from there.
The way I see it, I think seeing anakin in Vader’s armor without the mask would be a good thing, because this would just be considered his sith outfit because at that point in time he officially joined the dark side. Plus, it would’ve been a great tribute to George Lucas’s original concept of Vader
I disagree that the Death Star would be finished constructed or even operational after Sidious' death; Vader destested its existence, mask or no mask. True, a lot of time and credits were put into its making, but since when does Vader care about the amount of effort lesser beings have placed into the former Emperor's ego project?
My guess is that Vader would likely mass produce Tie Defenders instead or focus more on Military might, since he's more Military focused plus he'll have Thrawn to command his navy.
@@trevorsnow4274 Agreed and it for this reason I think the empire would split upon Palpatines death. Half would follow vader and the rest would follow Tarkin. The question is, would vader be able to defeat Tarkin, who has been shown to be smarter than vader, especially if Tarken manages to finish the death star. Just my opinion .
Vader respected Tarkin so I think the death star will continue under Tarkin's watch just on a much slower pace while boosting production of tie defenders and star destroyers another note don't think the rebellion will grow as big or effective under Vader's watch given Sidious allowed it grow so he can do a clean sweep when the time came and he had his death star while Vader is more strait forward and would either curb stop or charm any problems as they come up
Love the idea of cloning his limbs. Since they have cloning technology, wouldn’t that make everyone virtually immortal who could afford it? Is that how Yoda lived to be 900?
No the brain would still age and brain transplants are impossible after all thats were your conscious resides thats why EU Palpatine has too transfer his conscious too a new clone using the force
@@karaltar7914 it wasn't Disney that directed the mandalorian it's Dave filoni and Jon favreau who is literally one of if not the biggest fan of starwars to the point where mark Hamill (Luke's actor), thanked him for saving his character in the mandalorian
I don't think it would've really mattered whether Anakin had sustained those horrific injuries or not, usage of Dark Side energy would still corrupt, scar, and alter his physical appearance.
Does lore back up your claim about dark side energy corrupting one’s physical appearance? Plenty of Sith Lords and dark side users looked normal on the outside. Palpatine and the others who became disfigured, did so because of over ambitious risk taking, etc.
@@parkervitous2782 Damn right, Palpatine became haggis-man only after Mace Windu whacked him with the ugly stick, or rather, redirected and amplified his own force lighting back on him. So in a way, the dark side power did disfigure him, not by use but by misuse and gross stupidity.
@@dory3096 Basically what they other guy said. Legends feats involve crazy feats that are basically more similar to extremely powerful magic in a high fantasy genre. Anakin could've easily opened a wormhole in the force and just stepped into his bedroom completely unharmed. Considering someone as powerful in the Force as this Anakin could have been, the possibilities are nearly endless.
@@newhybrid101 I don’t know. Even then that’s a ton of energy , and after it explodes how long w would he be able to last out in space. I mean not he empires in retreat there’s tons of pieces and unless Luke’s looking for him head probably die due to lack of oxygen or just losing consciousness .
@@historyking9984 I'm pretty sure in the legends thrawn trilogy Luke was able to survive without oxygen for a few days by using the force to hibernate so an emperor Vader would probably be able to survive weeks without oxygen
Your impression of Hayden’s Anakin voice just kept giving me chills 😭 Bravo man… I hope Disney sees this. This would be an amazing What If for Star Wars. Or new canon 👀🤣
To be honest, I would have preferred it if Vader didn't burn. The Darth Vader suit never really compelled me all that much. I think it would have been cooler to see Vader unburned, and reach a higher potential to use lightning abilities
Maybe but think about the order these movies were made and the era. Without the prequel story first the suit was a great way to make Vader a menacing bad guy.
the the thing is he couldnt use force lightning either way, theo nly reason he could use it is because of his robotic limbs. he would have to have not suffered any injuries at all on mustafar to use lightning
Well, I mean Vader is the thing that made Star Wars into what it is today. Without that character in the OT the franchise would never have gotten that big.
If Anakin won against obi-wan and didn't lose his limbs or burn, his power after a while would be complete unstoppable. He would probably have the most powerful force user in existence.
@@silverstrikegaming195 another thing, luke skywalker defeated abeloth which wasn't an easy feat for him in his prime.. however anakin literally used the force to slam both the son and the daughter, who are also gods which exist to stop abeloth, to the ground in mere seconds.
@@hamzah1325 I completely agree with you but lets not forget there is a lot of evidence pointing towards the force being boosted in that plain of existance, especially the Chosen One.
i was always confused why anakin didnt just kind of force nudge himself up a little bit away from the lava. he still had some strength left though it was small.
Some time ago, I read that if anakin had not been burned, he would have been recognized as a hero, but not by chance of fate, but because the chancellor palpatin, during the clone wars, was in charge of making anakin look like a war hero , as he pulled the strings and sent Anakin on important missions where Palpatine knew Anakin would succeed, while making sure everyone knew of his victories. PD. sorry if i wrote something wrong, i'm still learning hahaha
This was great, as always. I wonder if Obi-Wan would have left Anakin on Mustafar if he wasn't burning. I always thought Obi-Wan believed Anakin was done for and there was no way he could survive, so he turned his back on the scene, being very hard to watch. I suspect Obi-Wan would have taken Anakin back to Padme and their love would keep each other alive, if he hadn't burned.
Would Obi-Wan have reached out as he did in our timeline to teach Anakin how to become a force ghost as he was dying? Beautiful what if by the way. Great work!
Of many of SWT’s videos, I love the ones where he delved into the lore, mentality, symbolism, and morality of Vader. Not to mention his “what if” videos. Vader is an iconic villain in cinema for many reasons, and Star Wars Theory’s breakdowns into the character about things most may not know about the Sith, makes Vader all the more realistically compelling to learn more about.
I like the general direction of the second story, but I also feel like it does too quick of a 180 for Vader. Granted I think that happened in the actual movies a lot too so it's not unprecedented
At 07:21 it's mentioned that "Qui-Gon taught Yoda and Yoda taught Obi-Wan" - but I thought it was Yoda who taught Count Dooku, who then taught Qui-Gon Jinn, who then, in turn, taught Obi-Wan Kenobi?
I just realized if anakin never got burned padme would be alive! Think about it. Anakin got very badly burned and had trouble breathing due to the damage in his lungs. If PALPATINE simply transferred their life force from one to another then that would make sense! If anakin never got got burned alive then padme would live Now some might say that padme died of heartbreak which is possible BUT it wouldn’t make sense because her last words were so full of hope that anakin would return. Why would she be heartbroken? It makes sense that her life force was taken from her in her weakest moment 😨
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It’s beyond me that Disney hasn’t done a what if series for star wars. There are so many more potential scenarios that they could have handled than they could ever with the MCU. A Star Wars What If series could easily run 7 to 10 seasons as there are endless potential episodes and any alternate revenge of the sith scenarios are fascinating to me as this movie specifically changed the landscape of the entire star wars galaxy so much.
Even though I am strongly Team Marvel instead of Star Wars, I couldnt agree more. No one ever asked what happened if T'CHalla became Star Lord and nobody really cared about what happened if a zombie apocalypse had broken out.
Star Wars on the other hand would be so fucking great to see. Like you said 7 to 10 seasons EASILY. What if vader didn't burn, what if he killed Palpatine, what if Maul won in the beginning, what if Obi Wan teamed up with Dooku? And I'm not even creative here
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It would be interesting to do a “What if” on Padmé actually survived after giving birth to Luke and Leia.
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Seriously though, watching the evolution over the years, SWT’s Anakin and Palpatine voices are spot on, it is incredible.
Agreed, just came to comment how good his Anakin voice is.
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I love Vader, amazing bad guy. But sometimes I wish Anakin just would have reached his full potential. I believe he would have destroyed the sith and transcended the Jedi. He would have ruled the universe. Vader is so strong with force only using one limb. Imagine a fully evolved Anakin with all his limbs
The only way to “Transcend” the Jedi is to join the Sith.
There’s only two ways to grow your power in the force. The light or dark side.
Maybe he could have been a Gray Jedi? I'm pretty sure that's a thing in the EU
he has no limbs he lost his hand fighting count dooku and then lost the rest to obiwan
yall are so dumb lmao . he would have just become a sith lord. he SLAUGHTERED CHILDREN. he had a weak mind. he's not some good guy and never was
@@MsLanie No. Grey Jedi aren't a faction. They're just Jedi that don't follow the council. Anakin wouldn't have been able to use both the light, and dark(without consequences), as the fan fictions depicted them doing. The dark side is cancer. Is corrupts you.
I always thought that had Vader not burned, he would have been far more dangerous, not because of his Force powers, but because of his look. A Vader with Anakin's face and heroics behind him would wield far more political power than the masked enforcer that we saw in the main timeline. Plus, Anakin could be both sneaky and charming when he wished, as we saw several times in the Clone Wars, a Darth Vader with charm and subtlety would have been a far more lethal version, because he would not need fear alone to sway others to his cause.
Yes I agree. I read this years ago on a forum about alternative time lines. One user gave his interaction with Leia as an example. Instead of bringing her directly to a torture room, unburned Vader would likely use his charms and cunning to try and get information from her, maybe touring the Death Star and what not more like a dark prince than a brutal enforcer.
I also feel like Vader would not be as hateful or self loathing had he not been burned. Canon Vader is always in a state of suffering due to the suit, Vader harnesses this pain to fall deeper into the Dark Side, becoming detached from his humanity and therefore hating himself more.
I feel like unburned Vader would probably be a bit more like Count Dooku in the sense that he would dress well and use his good looks to charm and disarm people while being monstrously powerful. They always show Darkside users as being decayed and sickly, but if we want to get a little mythical with Anakin being the chosen one, they say Lucifer is beautiful after all.
Straight up 007 Sith. Yes.
We need a fan film here.
@@maximusaralieous1728 Thanks to your detailed description now I can easily get it. Yeeeees~ Charming Lord Vader is good! XD
@@LBEEden Haha, you're welcome 😊
He would be like Homelander.
I want a "What If" live action series about this story with Hayden Christensen
George Lucas Can definitely do it no cap
@@terrellbennett1685 yes ofc let's send him a petition, he'll accept it for sure.
How about we just get a darth Vader trilogy. With Hayden Christensen
@@thevaden2024 Hayden Christiansen doesn’t play darth vader you know that right?
@@klovor He actually does in the new kenobi series
This would be an amazing “WHAT IF…?” Star Wars episode.
I wouldn't trust Disney or Kathleen Kennedy to make it.
@@DarthSideous63 theory's fan fiction favers the wamen over the bad white men, so... It would have been gold for KK.
No seriously, I get how theory got to this fan fiction. And believe that he didn't mean anything bad by it. But this plot is easy to abuse by KK and her Akolythes...
We need a “what if” book series. Give it to James Luceno and Drew karpyshyn, they’ll make it right.
Next season of What if... is supposed to be Star Wars. They even teased it in the Watcher/Ultron fight.
@@davidkelly4210 was that the mustafar reference?
I found the scene of him walking in his cloak with the clones with the glowing sith eyes much more menacing than anything I’ve seen vader do. It was just something special about it
Vader walking like Kylo ren is scary, Vader walks and acts like a old man
@@maven9323 vaders walk is alright, but nothing can compare to anakin walking towards the younglings with his glowing sith eyes.
It's the eyes, and the menacing look on Anakin.
@@maven9323 Well that’s mainly because of the restrictions in movement his suit creates for him
@@alexm6715 doesn't change the fact that he moves like an old man
I like this better tbh. Never seeing anakin reaching reach his full potential is my biggest gripe with SW
@mandak kart no it isn't, seeing anakin fully powered into something more and maybe even a greater villain would have been more appealing
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese and it would have been interesting if he did obtain the ultimate power as a sith would strive to do so.
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese I second this.
@@oddgbmo3036 well I mean it’s not like 1-3 were made first. The whole “never reached his true potential” wasn’t a thing in A New Hope. Darth Vader’s appearance was what made him an iconic villain off the bat
@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese no what I'm suggesting is power level chasing from anakin too angry to mind those around him eventually leading to him realizing who the true enemy is and so leading into anakin soloing the universe essentially. Just as Kratos did in his story for Greek mythology. Seeing an alternative timeline would be interesting. It's better than the mindless power already obtained right off the bat with Rey. Ofc this is all opinions
I don’t think it would be so hard for Vader to convince Luke to leave with him, if you remember in episode four Luke wanted to get off Tatooine and expressed interest in joining the empire.
Yeah, Vader would probably say that Owen and Beru kidnapped Luke.
Luke stated he hated the empire before Obi-Wan rescued him from the Tusken Raiders. Luke was planning to join the rebellion, not the empire's military.
@@dchenkin02 didnt luke want to be empires pilot?
@@cwoxcwoksony5672 in a deleted scene, it was shown that he wanted to join the academy so they could jump ship and join the rebellion
@@pigwhaleg oh i didn't know that, thx
If Star Wars doesn’t hop on that “what if” grind imma be mad asf .
We already have the What If Grind. The Old Expanded Universe. But I know what you mean. On the Big Screen. Which that would be interesting to see. The Expanded Universe (The Star Wars Multiverse) in Live Action or Animated.
I’m pretty sure that the Emperor even wanted Anakin to betray him at some point had he not lost to Obi-Wan. He was already preparing for Anakin’s rise to power and accepted the Sith tradition of the apprentice killing the master. He saw Anakin as a worthy replacement for his empire.
This makes a lot of sense but Palpatine didn't kill his master Darth Jar Jar so that makes it even more complicated
@@carterego5443 Shhhhh… we don’t talk about that. The Emperor would have your head if that information got out 🤫
@@memesouls8653 Lmaooo 😭😭
I think he’d at least try to transfer his force essence into Anakin‘s body.
But I could see either playing out seeing as how palpatine once said that he would’ve been disappointed if Anakin never tried to kill him
Palpatine installed a weakness to lightning for a reason and continously had him surveyed by the royal guards. That and his back up body, palpatine didn't respect the rule of two. The inquisitors were further proof of this, and Maul, and Ventress. He was a self serving tyrant who disgraced the Sith of old.
Maul and Vader would be the best duo in my opinion of master and apprentice with Vader as the master
I love these what ifs. Reminds me of the early days of your channel. Keep up the amazing work Theory!
Loving your fact videos
Me too
Love your channel.as well
My man Vaders Fortress on point.
lk ur channel its good :)
I would want to see a “What If” of Anakin letting Mace kill Palpatine, and then another of Anakin never losing to Obi wan but staying with the dark side. I get the whole “his children showed him the Light”, but at the same time, seeing Anakin at his full potential, especially w the Dark side would be crazy
In the Revenge of the Sith game there's an alternate ending where Anakin wins.
Truly that would undermine the tragic story of darth vader
If Mace killed Palpatine then the jedi would be in BIG trouble it wouldn't be all happy ending for them
Palps wouldn’t let windu kill him he would have killed mace in the moment he knew that anakin won’t intervene
@@TheSolarium18 actually to be honest with you George Lucas said that Mace windu actually beat him if Anakin did not get involved he would have died there you can look that up...
"What If Anakin didn't burn?"
*burns anyway*
Lol
thought the same, love it
What if Anakin didn't burn… but instead burned to death?
BBQ time
It’s the destiny of the chosen one to be barbecued.
Take into account that Anakin had a Sith artifact called the Amulet of Khan built directly into his right glove, meaning his right hand was literally indestructible. It also meant it was his most powerful asset in the entire suit. He could parry blaster bolts, lightsaber strikes, flames, electricity, and all variety of physical weaponry just by raising his right hand.
Wait, THAT’S how how he deflects blaster bolts? I always thought it was tutaminis
He could anyways and without a suit. He couldve build it in his mechanic hand if he didnt burn. So he would be human with his gauntlet
"what if anakin didnt burn"
Anakin: *Dies by burning*
I think anakin burning is an absolute point.
damn hope nobody becomes mad with greif and destroys the universe because of that\
Imagine marvel x star wars how would that even work?
@Overto What time stamp?
@Overto Alright thanks
It's in his fate
didn’t think i’d be crying my eyes out on the way to work this morning! this was BEAUTIFUL and just completely capturing! please please PLEASE animate this with some dialogue or even live action! this is truly one of the only ones that is worthy of a film!
I came to the comment section to say the exact same thing. This fan fiction was beautiful.
Fire: *doesn't get Anakin on Mustafar*
Much older fire with a cane on the death star: I finally caught up to you, you limitless Sith Lord
Obi talking to the fire on Mustafar: You have won!
fire: I havnt won yet
*fast foward to this scene*
fire: now I have won
The visualization of this made me laugh
😂😂😂😂underrated comment
cringe
lol
It's stuff like this that just makes me annoyed that the force can seeminly do everything and nothing. You're talking about how Obi-Wan didn't have time to run down there and finish Anakin off, but why can't he just real quickly force push him into the lava or smth? Or even pull anakin up to him if he doesn't want to kill him via lava and thinks it'd be more humane to finish it with a lightsaber? I mean come on, he had ample time for a quick force push lol, he had time to yell at him and pick up the lightsaber after all.
I think the only real explanation is that he didn't have the heart to finish off his friend and brother, and instead convinced himself that what he did was ok because he believed that it was the fire that killed Anakin, not himself. Just as a bit of self-assurance. Ultimately, this selfish act led to one of the greatest forces of evil the galaxy had ever known. How it be.
Exactly, Obi-Wan told himself that he left Anakins destiny to the forces will
This reminds me of the cartoon where a female jedi had her lightsaber stolen and was trying to chase the thief down. The entire time I’m wondering why she doesn’t use the force to pull the lightsaber back.
Force is all about emotional control and mental fortitude. How is it hard to realize that Tiger Woods could either be amazing or horrible at his next match and you wouldn’t be surprised either way. Same with someone like Jordan playing for The Wizards.
He used a fucking sith saber technique to dismember him in the first place, he probably wanted Anakin to suffer
@@mwm48 that seems unlikely, Obi-Wan treated Maul with the same respect at his death as he did Qui-Gon and Satine, and Maul is the one who took those 2 from him. Something tells me he wouldn't treat Anakin of all people worse than Maul.
Something to consider: I remember it being it stated that Vader post-Mustafar was still capable of surpassing Sidious despite his injuries. Vader’s own self-hatred and doubt kept him from reaching his true potential.
True, Sidious knew Anakin's anger and hatred wouldn't make him strong enough to otherthrow him, since only focus, love and compassion can beat hate, but it would make him strong enough to be used as his personal tool.
I thought it was also stated that his armor also limited his abilities due to how poorly put together it was
You’d think ‘self-hatred and doubt’ would make you better at using the dark side of the force.
@@tijojose7966 No hatred towards the others would I think Vader was depressed
Another reason why Sidious gave Vader a suit that was vulnerable to Force Lightning.
I believe it was actually stated somewhere that the reason Vader never used force lightning was due to the fact it would actually short out his life support system.
Even then he wouldn't risk shorting his cybernetics
That's the EU, in the new comics Sidius used force lighting on Vader after. This happened right after the "noooo" scene, so in canon, Vader's suit should be fine using force lighting.
@@akoskormendi9711 In canon it also damage his life System, the difference is that the force Lightning that palapatine use in that comic werent intent to kill Vader
He used force lightning in legends but not like sideos he releases it through this entire body not through his hands
@@rodolfosanchez3397 True, but still, that means at least he can use some level of force lighting without shortcircuiting his life support systems.
I love how his precognition worked in the Thrawn novels; he could see a few seconds ahead which allows him to block blaster bolts, and it's part of why he was so good with a lightsaber despite less training than anyone else.
Well, that's just the basic precognition just about every Force user has. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to block blaster bolts at all. Though I believe there are differences in how strong this is depending on the individual.
I genuinely LOVE this story more than the original! it would be so badass to see Vader at his full strength! and (to me personally) having both the twins learn the light and the dark side of the force makes so much more sense! To see Leia as a Jedi?!? to have them both face off with their father! I would love to see this version of events come to life!
I imagine it like Anakin and Obi Wan vs Dooku, but with Luke, Leia, and Vader
I agree. This story wouldve been way cooler
He still burned... I swear Theory has a dope way of telling stories
In short, Anakin would basically become a demi god.
Not demi or semi, He is the Force God!
technically he would be a force god full potental anakin could take on the son and daughter by himself if anything palpatine is the demi god as hes half of anakin and idk if its true but i saw somewhere ahsoka had half the potental of anakin as well so that would put her full potental on par with palpatine
Yeah
Basically a God in the force, maybe not as powerful as Mortis Gods, but if he was on Mortis he would be as powerful as the Father. Yes, Anakin would be nigh-unstoppable.
@@LordEmperorHyperion technically he would be a demigod since he’s the son of the force.
Let’s give it up to the real MVP of the series: Theory’s Hayden accent 👏🏽
LoL
I wonder how he does it?
So true
@@svenrio8521 Well, both are Canadian so I guess that helps :)
He does it so well! He thinks his Palpatine is good. His Anakin is perfect!
Amazingly solid, and well told. I especially like how Luke doesn't swap fully to the light side in the end, allowing him and Leia to teach their school both sides, creating a better balance. Besides, I find it way more interesting when the force isn't so black and white.
Glad Vader was able to whoop his kids asses as he should at full power.
I was worried that he would say vader would e defeated
No he won't do that
Absolutely perfect redemption arc for Anakin. Even better than the one we got.
I feel like his canon arc would have been better if they didn't do the main films, then the prequels. Because they did the prequels after they had to try and make a convincing story to get to the original trilogy. If it was made in timeline order they story would have been more well rounded.
@@commenterimjustacommenter i think willingly killing children is evil, brainwashing or not
@@commenterimjustacommenter yeah I agree thats the whole point of the phrase "There is still good in him" also I don't think Anakin would kill the Lars family
Any story where Palpatine dies (permanently) is a winner with me LOL
Facts hate how he ruined Anakins life
Same
According to your logic, does that mean that Rise of Skywalker is you favorite Star Wars movie?
@@cosmicremix311 that is not my logic.
No, palpatine is a gangster
We love palpy🤑
one the greatest super villains in sci fi history
Man, that brought a tear to my eyes, amazing alternate storyline that makes perfect sense and would be in character for Anakin, would also lead to a better finale and redeem the "Anakin was the chosen one" by bringing ACTUAL balance in the force, meaning you can combine both the light and the dark to a balanced form, a grey area, which would become the ultimate force user.
Agreed. I like how the ending is bittersweet yet very satisfying, metaphoric, and hopeful.
I was expecting to hear about Vader with most of his potential eventually overthrowing the Emperor; and you lay out a treatment for alternate Episodes 4-6. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Do you notice that the body of vader's armor IS the same of anakin's clone Wars armor? In the First and Second season
Of course, without the robotic chest
Awesome video/theory.
Here's one: What if Yoda won, but so did Anakin/Vader?
Yo that duel would be legendary between Yoda and Anakin
That could be a pretty complex one. Yoda strikes down Sidious, so in that case command of the clones would switch to Vader. So Yoda would have to begin building a resistance to the overwhelming Clone forces at this point if he had the energy to do so. Vader could also potentially save Padme, with Sidious gone and Obi-Wan dead, one wonders if Padme could have convinced him to leave the Dark side.
So there's actually a mod in Battlefront 2 which is called Lord Skywalker, which I will say is easily the coolest mod, where it's both Vader and Anakin combined, slow and intimidating while being charismatic and fierce, I know his ferocity grew more as Vader, but when he was still ferocious.
I’ve seen it, and it’s badass
I always wondered why Vader didn’t just take it upon himself to upgrade his armor anyways. No matter what Sidious said.
He kept it that way as punishment for what happened to his wife. But actually he does upgrade some of the armor himself still caused him discomfort and pain but atleast he was able to move better. Later on sidious was willing to upgrade all of his armor but there was a chance his life would be in danger from the surgery so he declined it
In legends (the original extended universe) the armor was very heavy, ill fitted, he would receive radio feedback from near by ships so he would hear a lot of sounds constantly.
His skin would crack off and had to be applied artificial skin every so often and like sidious planned he didn't give him the best armor due to having him be punished to be constantly reminded of his lost of Padam and keep him on a leash to control him better as well strength his connection to the dark side. There were "attempt s" at Vader trying to upgrade his suit but the process would be too difficult for him how badly damaged his body was and to even transfer his body to a new suit would kill him. Which is why he never tried to do it since there would be no point to do that
They could’ve upgraded it but sidious wanted him to stay for more pain and it would’ve been near impossible to do it without Vader dying
Dude, I wish Disney would hire you to be in charge of a Star Wars animated series about these fan fiction scenarios by using the world’s between worlds (similar to the marvel what if series). It would be so cool, you would make one hell of a fun series
That would be great
I feel as if Vader would treat Luke differently as he would’ve believed it was his only Son and would train him with less hatred than When he trained Galen Marek
@Helen🥂T[A]P Me!! to Have [𝐒]𝐄𝐗 With it would be interesting to see Luke and Vader travel across the galaxy quelling rebellions over the galaxy as Anakin/Vader would have a total disregard for politics
Anakin's turn back to the light in this is definitely solid. his entire nature was being fractured and fragile and it always came out in his most stressful moments.
I think Vader would have turned back to Anakin almost immediately after killing Palpatine. Without that evil old wretch I see him having almost no connection to the dark side because any attempt by Obi-Wan to turn him back would not have an opposing force keeping him dark. I think Vader fearing Palpatine was a big reason for him to not listen to Obi-Wan.
True, Palpatine’s manipulation was the biggest thing that drew him to the dark side besides the old Jedi council’s broken mindset. With both of those gone, Vader would almost naturally find tranquility, Palpatine wouldn’t be there, so there’s no one to keep telling him that it was his fault that Padme died, and he’d be able to finishing up his mourning and effectively move on, his guilt over Padme’s death was one of the things that KEPT him tied to the dark side
@@neroidius6915 Very true. On top of Palpatine influencing him I also believe he felt trapped and feared Palpatine.
Once you go down that path you can’t just flip a switch. How Reva did it so fast was rushed into 6 episodes. It’s not so simple. It takes someone else to help you find your way. You don’t just go you know what? I’m done being evil. 😂
@@robhileman8890 when the objects that kept you evil and dragged you down are suddenly gone, the only place to go now is up. Palpatine, guilt over Padme (which Palpatine constantly highlighted), the Jedi council, these all pushed him to the dark side, now they’re gone, and he can move on. It starts with him finding peace that these problems are gone from his life, then a few months or years of contemplation and realization of how it was all really tied to Palpatine’s manipulation, and he’s the real problem, but he’s gone, so there’s nothing to worry about. Then remembering all the special people who were in his life, who he owes it to fix everything that he’s done
@@neroidius6915 you don’t know the power of the dark side! Palpatines absence only would encourage Anakin to be the master. He would find an apprentice and search dark ways to bring back Padme. It’s possible he finds something to bring him back but the corruption will not just let you go because everyone’s gone. It corrupts you and seduces you. It does not let go. Only by someone pulling you back do you turn from that power.
Disney: *doesn’t make Star Wars what if*
SWT: “fine I’ll do it myself”
That would be awesome
They made Marvel what-if so there's no reason they couldn't do it for SW
I also wanna see a what if on if the EU was the sequel trilogy
I think vader would taunt Obi wan that he knew he was protecting someone just like maul did. Also Owen and beru’s death would be brutal since vader hated them since his mom died on their watch
No, he’d not of slain them at all. Horrible writing , nor would he of let Ben die that easily. Nor could Leia magically of swayed Luke and her Dad. Hogswash. Doesn’t fit Anakin nor Vader’s personality and Leia isn’t a Marry Jane. Anakin would of enslaved Obi Wan , took his son left his aunt and uncle to suffer their miserable moister farming life. If Lei ever trained, she wouldn’t of but if and attempted to board the Death Star her dad or brother would of instantly killed her as they’d no reason not to and either is infinitely more powerful. Complete crap
@@pugtortuga3406 Have, not of.
@@Dee_Just_Dee no, nice try though
@@pugtortuga3406 Learn English, bro.
This is some of the best writing I've heard for Star Wars fan fiction. And it makes me want them to re create the films with this storyline, Anakin not being burnt on Mustafar and raising Luke as a Sith apprentice.
istg im thinking the same here. I'd love this ending way more than the original
It would make an excellent book imo I’d love to write something like this never without permission ofc
Being at least 80% of the Emperor’s power is still a huge amount. I mean Sidious is OP. And Vader being second to him? Let’s be real, being 20% apart in power is not a huge gap. Vader’s strength in the force is still massive and he can overcome his limits if he taps into his anger.
20% is actually pretty large lol
@@Milk88488 No it really isn’t. 😂
@@Shadowrulzalways It really depends on how big the number we're talking about. Personally, I don't like this anime like approach to powerlevels. Giving them an arbitrary % doesn't mean much to me.
Nah
@Shadowrulzalways it really is. When the power level is that high 20% is a lot. Like what's 20% of one million? A lot.
So if his kids brought balance it essentially means that Anakin still is the chosen one in that he brought balance to the Force by banging Padmé.
bruh.
no
Technically Yes
Oh shit...
She is an "angel" after all
No no, you’ve got a point
“No obi-wan I have become far more powerful than YOU could have imagined” an unburnt Darth Vader said
If Anakin hadn't burned, and I'd concur on this fan fiction up to a point, down to where he kills the emperor and becomes emperor himself. Another thing, without being burned, he'd have the "clairvoyance enough" that the burns and the suit limit him, to sense his children are alive. Also after killing the emperor, he wouldn't be so dark, maybe gray, so I think once he finds out, he'd find them and rule the galaxy together as father and children and maybe there'd be peace in the galaxy.
He already made a fan fiction about this
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 well, you missed my point, I'm talking about this video in particular, not about any other fan fictions there might be.
he slaughtered children he's evil and would be a completely evil sith lmfao
@@Noctifern He slaughtered Jedis that happened to be children but strong in the Force and potential threat to the emperor's plan, and remember he had at that point to collaborate with all the emperor's plans because he'd promised he had the only key to saving Padme and his child (or so he thought it was just one). He was not evil he just chose his wife and child over a few Padawans that could grow to slay him and his family eventually. I ask you, if you saw a future potential threat to you or your family, even if they're children, wouldn't you try to eliminate it before it's an imminent danger to your loved ones and not just a threat? I as a father know I surely would.
Palpating knew Anakin was his greatest threat so he befriended him as a child just to manipulate him and control him the rest of his life not only that but also his kids. Truly evil. I feel bad for Anakin
Get a life man
Palpating ?
There's a theory which I believe is true. Palpatine impregnated Shmi using the force and midichlorians, which is why Anakin was born with the highest midichlorian count of any living being
Palp created Anakin
Well, you did just described the entire premise of the prequel. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
This is, in my opinion, your best fan-fic so far, absolutely great, Theory!
I agree
That was actually a pretty good and emotional ending. I love the idea that Anakin still is taken by the fire but this time he chooses to be consumed by it. On Mustafar the fire represented his decent into evil now it represents his freedom from it.
I like how this mirrors the son being the dark the daughter being light and anakin replacing the father after all
I actually think your second scenario works pretty well, especially following the events of the Kenobi series! I really love this!
(After Vader gets his limbs cloned and reattached)
Obi-Wan: I like your new legs. They make you look taller.
General Kenobi, you are shorther than I remember you. Also, I have doubled my powers since the last time we met. Today you will pay for all the Siths that you killed.
Kenobi be like: nice suit vader it must have cost you... An arm and a leg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@generalgrievous7879 When we last met I had but the low ground. Now I have the high ground, and soon you will be no more. This is the end for you my Master.
No its not
“…and when he kills yoda”…
I like how you just sort of threw that out there so nonchalantly. Perfect!
As a kid who grew up with Star Wars in the 80's, my friends and I were always had the impression that the Emperor was the one that gave him the life threatening wounds. We knew he and Obi-Wan fought but figured he walked away with at least losing an arm or something. We figured the Emperor made Anakin fight him to prove his worthiness. It was the 80's so everything was speculation.
Ah yes the 80s
10:08 not gonna lie, at this point I looked at the description to see if it was Hayden himself narrating this. That impression of him was spot on
Here's one I think would be interesting. What if Anakin confided in Obi-Wan about his visions of Padme?
sick vid man! Disney really need to make a star wars what if its got so much potential, maybe they could incorporate some of your ideas as you deserve recognition for these!
that's just what I was thinking! it would be such a cool series. each season or each episode could be a different scenario.
Tears filled my eyes ,chills ran down my spine as this story unfolds, you are a master of telling stories filled with captivations.
You do such a great Anakin and Sidious impression
What if Maul killed Obi-Wan instead of Qui-Gon? How would the prequels change with Qui-Gon training Anakin as a Jedi?
Anakin would be less emotional and more of a Gray Jedi same like Qui-Gon?
@@audiarif6534 he wouldn't complain about sand as much 😂
Plot twist: The sand was created from the dark side of the force
No Darth Vader. But will Qui-Gon be able to overcome his grief.
Damn, love this! Loved all of it but especially the ending with how dark and light lessons were taught with balance in the force and how Aniken still did the right thing in the end for his family.
2:24 I disagree. Obi wan only let the fire take Anakin because he couldn't bring himself to do it. Thats why he turned away as he was burning. The shuttle showed up while/after he was on fire. Long after Kenobi walked away.
That was awesome. And I agree with the idea of bringing balance to the force would be Jedi and Sith teachings. Just minus the extreme stuff that creates the conflict.
I've always had this idea that when Palpatine told Vader that he had killed Padme, the shock snapped Anakin back to the light. Palpatine then used him as a template for clones and this/these clones are the ones we see in the films. After a number of years, Luke seeks out and rescues Anakin and........well, you can make it up from there.
I like this idea that is so cool
The way I see it, I think seeing anakin in Vader’s armor without the mask would be a good thing, because this would just be considered his sith outfit because at that point in time he officially joined the dark side. Plus, it would’ve been a great tribute to George Lucas’s original concept of Vader
If I did not love Vader‘s suit so much, this would have been an amazing plot!
I really liked the ending where they created balance by using both light and dark side of the force, as there is no light without dark.
I disagree that the Death Star would be finished constructed or even operational after Sidious' death; Vader destested its existence, mask or no mask. True, a lot of time and credits were put into its making, but since when does Vader care about the amount of effort lesser beings have placed into the former Emperor's ego project?
My guess is that Vader would likely mass produce Tie Defenders instead or focus more on Military might, since he's more Military focused plus he'll have Thrawn to command his navy.
There was still grand moff tarkin who could carry on palpatine's work. As we seen on rogue one, he was in charge of making the death star anyway.
@@trevorsnow4274 Agreed and it for this reason I think the empire would split upon Palpatines death. Half would follow vader and the rest would follow Tarkin. The question is, would vader be able to defeat Tarkin, who has been shown to be smarter than vader, especially if Tarken manages to finish the death star. Just my opinion .
Vader respected Tarkin so I think the death star will continue under Tarkin's watch just on a much slower pace while boosting production of tie defenders and star destroyers
another note don't think the rebellion will grow as big or effective under Vader's watch given Sidious allowed it grow so he can do a clean sweep when the time came and he had his death star while Vader is more strait forward and would either curb stop or charm any problems as they come up
He’d probably find more interest in the dark trooper project.
*Maul got new legs, Anakin got new legs*
Maul: “Noticed you’ve copied my legs”
Vader got new legs, Maul got new legs and new ass
Vader yes but not your poor performance
In the Star Wars setting, even Lt. Dan would get new legs!
@@sommojames but not a new penis
Love the idea of cloning his limbs. Since they have cloning technology, wouldn’t that make everyone virtually immortal who could afford it? Is that how Yoda lived to be 900?
No his species just lives for a long time. Grogu is 50 at the start of the Mandalorian
@@tdfvgffvfcvggbh1686 we don't talk about that
No the brain would still age and brain transplants are impossible after all thats were your conscious resides thats why EU Palpatine has too transfer his conscious too a new clone using the force
@@tdfvgffvfcvggbh1686 that’s just because Disney doesn’t understand Yoda
@@karaltar7914 it wasn't Disney that directed the mandalorian it's Dave filoni and Jon favreau who is literally one of if not the biggest fan of starwars to the point where mark Hamill (Luke's actor), thanked him for saving his character in the mandalorian
Gave me chills when you said "...and bring balance to the force" bringing back the prophecy of the jedi was an awesome closer
Then he wouldn't be extra crispy
Kentucky fried Vader
@@uraverageskeleton6480 I like you
Vader bucket
Lol in youtube translate vader translates to father
It’s awesome how much you revere Star Wars and these characters…it shows how much love you hold for the material in these stories you tell. 👍🏼
That Anakin voice is so good actually wow
I don't think it would've really mattered whether Anakin had sustained those horrific injuries or not, usage of Dark Side energy would still corrupt, scar, and alter his physical appearance.
Does lore back up your claim about dark side energy corrupting one’s physical appearance?
Plenty of Sith Lords and dark side users looked normal on the outside. Palpatine and the others who became disfigured, did so because of over ambitious risk taking, etc.
@@ragnarrlodbrokia8490well think about it he can hide his look just like sidius did
@@parkervitous2782 Damn right, Palpatine became haggis-man only after Mace Windu whacked him with the ugly stick, or rather, redirected and amplified his own force lighting back on him. So in a way, the dark side power did disfigure him, not by use but by misuse and gross stupidity.
@@ragnarrlodbrokia8490 How the hell is he that old
I love it! I started to sobbing when Leia said “it is still good in you”! And yes this will be a great tv show!!!
If we're using legends type feats, Emperor Vader would survive a death star explosion.
How tho? (genuinely curious)
@@dory3096 Basically what they other guy said. Legends feats involve crazy feats that are basically more similar to extremely powerful magic in a high fantasy genre. Anakin could've easily opened a wormhole in the force and just stepped into his bedroom completely unharmed. Considering someone as powerful in the Force as this Anakin could have been, the possibilities are nearly endless.
@@newhybrid101 I don’t know. Even then that’s a ton of energy , and after it explodes how long w would he be able to last out in space. I mean not he empires in retreat there’s tons of pieces and unless Luke’s looking for him head probably die due to lack of oxygen or just losing consciousness .
Oh damn thanks guys
@@historyking9984 I'm pretty sure in the legends thrawn trilogy Luke was able to survive without oxygen for a few days by using the force to hibernate so an emperor Vader would probably be able to survive weeks without oxygen
Your impression of Hayden’s Anakin voice just kept giving me chills 😭 Bravo man… I hope Disney sees this. This would be an amazing What If for Star Wars. Or new canon 👀🤣
To be honest, I would have preferred it if Vader didn't burn. The Darth Vader suit never really compelled me all that much. I think it would have been cooler to see Vader unburned, and reach a higher potential to use lightning abilities
I feel you brother i would love to see more of Anakin real face but darth vader but it is impossible not to show the real face of darth vader tbh
Maybe but think about the order these movies were made and the era. Without the prequel story first the suit was a great way to make Vader a menacing bad guy.
the the thing is he couldnt use force lightning either way, theo nly reason he could use it is because of his robotic limbs. he would have to have not suffered any injuries at all on mustafar to use lightning
Well, I mean Vader is the thing that made Star Wars into what it is today. Without that character in the OT the franchise would never have gotten that big.
Jesus Christ loves you all please repent
You know how to make me cry theory 😭😭. I can’t deal with the Anakin and padmé parts. The ending was gut wrenching.
Its better than being shot by general kenobi
If Anakin won against obi-wan and didn't lose his limbs or burn, his power after a while would be complete unstoppable. He would probably have the most powerful force user in existence.
1 word. Abeloth
@@silverstrikegaming195 another thing, luke skywalker defeated abeloth which wasn't an easy feat for him in his prime.. however anakin literally used the force to slam both the son and the daughter, who are also gods which exist to stop abeloth, to the ground in mere seconds.
@@hamzah1325 I completely agree with you but lets not forget there is a lot of evidence pointing towards the force being boosted in that plain of existance, especially the Chosen One.
I always get SO excited when there's a new fan fiction! Thank you SO much!
i was always confused why anakin didnt just kind of force nudge himself up a little bit away from the lava. he still had some strength left though it was small.
Some time ago, I read that if anakin had not been burned, he would have been recognized as a hero, but not by chance of fate, but because the chancellor palpatin, during the clone wars, was in charge of making anakin look like a war hero , as he pulled the strings and sent Anakin on important missions where Palpatine knew Anakin would succeed, while making sure everyone knew of his victories.
PD. sorry if i wrote something wrong, i'm still learning hahaha
Just a thought, if obi wan would’ve went down the hill, there’s no way he could’ve gotten stuck. He could easily force jump out our there
Or just force push Anakin without going downhill at all
I've always thought Anakin would surpass palpatine before he was thirty
This was great, as always. I wonder if Obi-Wan would have left Anakin on Mustafar if he wasn't burning. I always thought Obi-Wan believed Anakin was done for and there was no way he could survive, so he turned his back on the scene, being very hard to watch. I suspect Obi-Wan would have taken Anakin back to Padme and their love would keep each other alive, if he hadn't burned.
Would Obi-Wan have reached out as he did in our timeline to teach Anakin how to become a force ghost as he was dying? Beautiful what if by the way. Great work!
This is by far probably one of your best ones yet my friend. Keep up the good awesome work!
Bro, this was so good to listen to. Now I wish there was an “what if” live action of this.
I teared up during Anakin’s sacrifice
I did too XD
I love how every alternate video you make is better than what actually happened
anakin after being burnt like morning toast.
“this is outrageous it’s unfair.” 😡
😭
“Take a seat...oh nevermind”
TOAST Anakin
Of many of SWT’s videos, I love the ones where he delved into the lore, mentality, symbolism, and morality of Vader. Not to mention his “what if” videos. Vader is an iconic villain in cinema for many reasons, and Star Wars Theory’s breakdowns into the character about things most may not know about the Sith, makes Vader all the more realistically compelling to learn more about.
I like the general direction of the second story, but I also feel like it does too quick of a 180 for Vader. Granted I think that happened in the actual movies a lot too so it's not unprecedented
If vader never burned, He would turn to the light side very quickly as his suit is the reason why he stayed in the dark side.
No he wouldn’t have cause he knew the dark side was the only way to save padame
But she died 💀
I love these what if's, especially the ones about Anakin
At 07:21 it's mentioned that "Qui-Gon taught Yoda and Yoda taught Obi-Wan" - but I thought it was Yoda who taught Count Dooku, who then taught Qui-Gon Jinn, who then, in turn, taught Obi-Wan Kenobi?
If I wasn't so jaded by life, that ending would've brought me to tears.
I just realized if anakin never got burned padme would be alive! Think about it. Anakin got very badly burned and had trouble breathing due to the damage in his lungs. If PALPATINE simply transferred their life force from one to another then that would make sense! If anakin never got got burned alive then padme would live
Now some might say that padme died of heartbreak which is possible BUT it wouldn’t make sense because her last words were so full of hope that anakin would return. Why would she be heartbroken? It makes sense that her life force was taken from her in her weakest moment 😨