After 2 days using the t248 i can say is one of the best things i have ever bought. I have used the g29 many times and i can assure you that the pedals are a world apart in terms of feeling and quality.
Everyone has different minds about this wheels. Some of them likes G923, some T248, so, it’s your choice. Yeah, I know that most people like Thrustmaster wheels, but Logitech isn’t bad. I had also t248, but after 3 months it broke. I decided to buy G923, and I’m using it for 1 year, and it’s fine to me. And I felt, that G923 is better to me. So you need to pick that thing, that is closer to you
you could have gotten a T300RS for the same price with 3 pedals, that has a lot better force feedback, the G923 feels very weak and spins slowly. Also the option of switching wheels easily makes it worth it.
Just got a T248. I love everything about it but the NOISE! The noisy plastic paddles and the noisy motor. I prefer my old TMX wheel for noise and nicer paddles but the T248 is so much more responsive and powerful for FFB and feeling those turns. I am still a crap driver on both and spin out a lot though. I am still trying different settings in games like Dirt 5, Wreckfest, Forza Horizon 3 (yeah I know it's old but still fun).
How do you mean ((the noice)) If a T248 is loud for you than you'd absolutely hate the noise my old Logitech G25 made. That thing was loud, Extremely loud compared a T248.
Consider that if you want to add a shifter, logitech has one that costs $40 , and thrustmaster’s is $180 at least . And even if its better, its cool to have a shifter for only $40. So that gives the g29 a pretty cool advantage
@@ossisuomalainen an eBay h shifter would be a better purchase for around $90 you can get a full aluminium 6 or 7 speed shifter which looks and feels a lot better than the logitech shifter and feels very close to the TH8A. It also has the option of switching into sequential mode easily and quickly.
@@maximilianrhoades4121 absolutely, for a starter/intermediate wheel, it’s awesome. Best bang for the money. Plus is, it’s available, being it’s new tech. All outdated wheels are hard to come by these days, better or not…..the pedals alone are stellar, I think moving up there close to wheels like a fanatac
I think the Logitech g923 is 80$ cheaper than t248 in my country. The g923 has the leather and metallic shifters and pedals. The t248 is quite noise with the pedals but has better ffb than Logitech. Even tho logitech g923 is cheaper than t150, bruh…
I have the t248. Just purchased it last week. I wasn’t sure cause I saw some bad reviews, but it’s been great so far. The force feedback is great. It was between these two exact wheels since the store I went to only carried these two.
@@mastervz4806 I've had the t248 for just under a month now and it's been great. I've been playing f1 2020. I did find that the brake pedal was very stiff initially which led to the whole pedal unit rising.
@@MumenRider78 yeah I got the t248 too. I have the same issue with the pedals. I had to strap it down to the box it came with as a base for now. But need a more permanent solution.
My first and so far only wheel is a G29 which I bought last year. I paid just over $300 Canadian for it. The fact that the G920 (which is nearly identical minus the gimmicky "TrueForce" crap") is nearly $200 more is honestly ridiculous. Logitech DEFINITELY needs to move to belt or direct drive tech.
So I'm considering G29 and T248 for my PS5 rn, i've watched reviews on youtube and some says that g29 have a pretty bad brake pedal, so I'm pretty confuse on choosing the cheaper g29 or the t248, what do u think?
@@danielalfon9117 if you want to learn drifting, G29 is a much better choice because the spinning speed is much faster than that of the T248. If you don't drift at all, tke the T248 for better force feedback on tracks. I'm not a pro sim racer and I sometimes like to drift around for fun, so i found the G29 much better when it comes to drifting.
The g923 competes with the t150 and its worst then that wheel aswell. I have the t248 and I hate the plastic inside bruises my thumb after a long session. I like the enhanced ffb on ffb 2 setting
I have both. The Thrustmaster is so much better. I had to get the anti clicky tabs because my wife was complaining but I haven't had a single spin out with the thrustmaster. The pedals are superior compared to the logitech. I bought the Thrustmaster because the ghub no longer loads profiles and default doesn't change anymore.
The G923 has a big minus for me. Notice the power plug ( 1:48 ). If it needs to be replaced the wheel needs to be taken apart. The T248, ( 4:11 ) however, needs only a new plug-in; wheel does not need to be taken apart.
My g923 pedals gave ou on me after 1 year . Now I will give thrustmaster a go … I play everyday at least 2 hours and on weekends maybe 18 paired together … pedals still work but will only go to 90% throttle and brake 60% and clutch engages brakes ever so slightly … I have tried everything to fix it . And just decided to move on
Logitech i think you can find them for around $200 now the probably isn't a better time to get into simracing than now especially with DD wheels becoming affordable ive had my g29 for years and it still works like it did the day i pulled it out the box probably gonna hand it down to my son because i bought a moza rig littele over a month ago
My G27 Still running strong after 12 years! I wasted my money on the G923 with shifter bcuz it was on sale. I used it once and put it back in the box. The T248 just isn't worth upgrading to. The next level like a T300 or DD pro is a real upgrade IMO.
@@dylembo2912 It was on sale $330 with the shifter. I got it as a backup wheel incase the g27 stopped working. I have since started using the G923 since getting GT7.
Nice vid..I'm getting A T248 next week..can't wait...I've had a T150 with T3PA PRO peddals before, I'm hoping the new one is better...Oh and I know how to 'numb' the clicking from the shifters......Ha !!
@artfull_dodger__ tie a shoe lace around it, there's a video on RUclips that shows you how, I did it and it makes them silent, probably too late now as your comment was a year ago but hope this helps bro
I was looking at the G923, but after watching a review on the shifter, i immediately changed my mind, and ended up ordering the T248 and the TH8A shifter instead. Have not gotten it yet though, so cant say anything about it.
I almost bought the T248. But looking at lots of reviews I picked up a T300 as it came back in stock just as I was buying the T248. Main reason was it being belt driven and very quiet. Also the option for swapping wheel's. As I fancy the F1 style wheel. I wi be taking the £3 a month insurance to get it replaced if it develops a fault.
@@THESHADOW97139 see, you say that and then another person says it's so great. Ugh. I don't know what to get. I guess anything is better then nothing. Lol.
@@Ryan-re1rs There are indeed problems on this steering wheel, but there are solutions :) More in the end .... between the two, I recommend the T300 (there are only idiots who do not change their minds) A word of advice, however, never set the ffb to the max... 70/75% and no more, this will already save you some of these problems.
Found a really good deal on ebay for a thrustmaster T248 for 125 it was also fully cleaned out the inside comments aswell good condition just didn't have the box or the spare spring but I prefer the stronger one that's already installed anyway
I’ve had the g923 for about a year and haven’t had any problems. You can adjust the feedback in games like ‘Snow Runner’ because it constantly rattles in that game, and the 923 feels powerful too. If you’re not holding on tight it will pull itself right out of your hands. It’s my first wheel and pedal setup, so I have nothing to compare it too. The only things I don’t like are the lack of accessories. I ordered the magnetic shifter mod for the the one I have, but haven’t got it yet, and I wish there was a trucking shifter and a handbrake compatible for it. Also, I wish you could change the wheel if you wanted to. I just hope somewhere down the road they give us some better options for it.
you could have gotten a T300RS for the same price with 3 pedals, that has a lot better force feedback, the G923 feels very weak and spins slowly. Also the option of switching wheels easily makes it worth it.
@@drbass9677 I bought the T248 and i'm having so much problems with it, it came with fault the buttons are not working and for about 2 months I still trying to get my money back with the fucking seller from Aliexpres..
Im really excited to get the Trustmaster t248 I've been a Logitech user for the last 3 years and had problems with Both Logitech wheels the 920 and the 923. I will have the new wheel in a few days and I hope that it's what I'm expecting. I've seen the pros and cons on both wheels and I'm really excited to go with a sim company like thrustmaster rather the just a company that mainly makes computer parts.
I used to have the T-150. If I knew better I would have gone with the G29/G923, yes it does makes a bunch of noise, but it gives more and better details of what the car is doing. I sold the T-150, got the G923, and just recently, sold the G923 and got a CSL Elite for the PS4/PS5. Pretty good I must say. I have no experience with the T-248, but it replaced the T-150 as a decent entry to sim racing, I hope it is better though.
T248 having high placed pedals was mentioned, but not particullary as negative. For me however it was so bad, it made it impossible to use. With short feet and only reaching up with my toes, it got exhausting very quickly. G923 was better and not the useless design shit as T248.
Guys if any of you want to help, I am trying to decide which of these two to buy because all the reviews I’ve seen so far chose the t248 but there is currently a 150$ discount on the g923. If anyone has a recommendation please let me know thanks😊
Thank you for your comparison. I wonder if you enabled the TRUEFORCE feature for Logitech G923 during the comparison. Because you've choosen the T248 in terms of Force Feed Back. Did you do this while the TRUEFORCE is enabled? Thanks..
That is a fair question. I have used TRUEFORCE and even made a detailed separate video on this feature in the past. TRUEFORCE is good, but doesn't make up for the weaker motor power compared to the T248 for the FFB performance.
I'm so jealous of you guys who said they got T248 for less than £300. Here in Thailand, the Logitech G29+Shifter costs £246.38. Meanwhile, the Trustmaster T248 alone costs £300 (In case you interest more about T300 RS GT, it's £403.18). Oh did I mention that our minimum wage here is £7.5/day, so it's a no brainer for a starter to go for G29+Shifter really.
T428 doesn't come with carpet stoppers? That's a big let down for me considering I don't have much space to work with so my pedals will have to be on the floor :/
nice comparison for me, lot of questions have been answered, thank you. I just have one more question, how noisy are the gear shifters of T248? do I need to reconsider buying one? I'm like living in a flat, I have neighbours, I have roommate etc. would it be a real problem for me to racing at midnights? Thanks.
A melhor comparação que vi,saindo de um G920 e indo para t248 ou g923! Logitech tem um suporte muito bom no pós venda,ja a trustmasters eu não sei..g923 esta maia caro também
Cara, eu vendi meu g29. Agora estou na dúvida entre esses dois volantes também. O que me puxa muito pro lado da Logitech é a questão da garantia, volante deu problema eles trocam, simples assim. Por mais que eu já tenha visto que Thrustmaster é melhor e a vontade de comprar um seja grande, me vejo mais inclinado para logitech. Ainda mais nós que estamos no Brasil, e aqui é tudo imensamente mais caro, precisamos ter uma segurança a mais onde colocamos dinheiro kkkkk.
Very informative video.. im after wheel predominantly for EA WRC and rally games.. given the logitech has less force feedback would thst be better or would you go with the T248? Thanks and nee subscriber here .
For rally games, you typically dial back the FFB strength, so the Logitech is fine if that's your only use for the wheel. That said, you can also do the same with the T248, and T248 still remains the better all-rounder across all driving games between the two. Is it PC or console you plan to use the wheel with?
@@SimRacingCorner apologies it's for ps5.. so I'm just after what's going to be best for my needs. I prefer the look of the Logitech. but not sure as they're both the same price which go for . I thought I'd ask as do value your advice. Thanks
Okay. PC gamers get more hardware options these days, so it's worth checking that. Logitech wheelbases are generally very reliable, and the wheel rotation is smoother than the T248. So there are a couple of things the G923 has over the T248. The G923 isn't a bad option, but the T248 pinches the win in a head-to-head.
Being very sensitive to look and build materials of a wheel, do you think this can be a real argument to go on the g923? I don't like the t248, most t300rs around me gets faulty, so in this price range remains the g923. I love it's look but I'm afraid by the reviews. Thanks !
Logitech wheelbases are very reliable, the T248 is unproven yet in this respect as it's a new product. So that's something. But technically the T248 remains the superior driving wheel between the two.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for your answer. So I'm ok to deal with this, for look and reliability. My Driving Force Pro still works since 2006 (but is obsolete), plus my brother just bought a T248, so we will be able to try both wheels :). Keep on good work!
@@WiseFoolTrades I'm still happy with it, but you must be aware of its limits: the FFB is not very strong, still informative but less than a T248. BUT: Meanwhile, my brother's T248 is dying, the wheel "cracks" when turning left, and unfortunately this issue now looks common, more and more peoples are reporting it. Both wheels are a bit more than 1 year old. So the T248 is a superior wheel, but the reliability makes me chose the G923 again. To be honnest, I'd like to have something a bit stronger, but avoiding Thrustmaster products for their reliability, the next step is much, much more expensive. To be perfectly honnest: The G923 will make you buy a better wheel, the T248 can make you buy a replacement wheel... I hope this helps.
No Euro Truck Simulator ? The cable on the back off the pedals platform from the Logitech is braking between the pedals and the wall. This is why i have to buy a new steering wheel. On the Trusmaster is the cable cumming from the left or right side much better.
@@nonyabizz3533Actually, the Thrustmaster’s brakes would last longer, since there is no physical interaction inside the system, it would take a lot longer to wear itself out. And for the paddles, just get a square foot of foam, cut out a little piece and put it behind the paddle…..idk why people get so mad about that.
@@DragCentral4772 Nah man Thrust master is great on the mid scale. But on entry level never would I consider them. Way to many issues with it dying the the first couple months.
the thing about the G29 pedals is very important because with time, they always fail, usually after 1200-1500 you will have "false contact" problems, at the begining is fixed just cleaning inside the potentiometers, but after hours and hours, the wear is too much and you can't stop the false contact with nothing... I will buy a entire T248 just for that :(
@@user-ce5oh4bp4l I know but I'm sure about how change it, at the end I still with my G29 but I bought a Thrustmaster TCL-M pedals and I don't regreat, you can improve more with good pedals than a better wheel. Of course a better wheel gives you more sensitivity and that, but listening to my comunity with they Fanatecs and Thrustmaster, they have lot of problems of disconections are extrange malfunctions. I'm still with a G29 with more of 2000 hours and still working perfect. My friends on the comunity says "fallatec", is like "failnatec" in english XD
I bought both the G29 with shifter and the T248 for the same price $349 USD for GT7 and I I’m trying both and I don’t know which one to keep what do you think sir. I appreciate your opinion.
@@mixtervandal The T248 is PC and Xbox compatible, Thrustmaster have not released a Playstation version of the wheelbase yet. However I have no idea if the T248 is compatible with all Xbox games. It probably is, but I don't have an interest in console racing games to follow that side of things. If you email Thrustmaster support I would hope they can answer that.
T128 should be great at half the price us and just over half europe. A t248 can be had voor 289 euro (349 rrp) and the t128 is 199 euro rrp, so maybe 180 retail?
I have had the tmx pro for many years now and I want to upgrade. I am thinking of getting the T248 since I can get it for £250 on Amazon would you say it's worth the upgrade?
The only difference is, it's more powerful than the TMX. So that's the upgrade! But I'd recommend the TX instead, the FFB is more refined and smoother than the T248.
I bought d 933 and plugged it in and got a power surge..i bought a new power adaptor but it still won't work.. never even got 2do 1 lap wit it so had to send it back now I want to buy a new version...any ideas ,????
Please help! I can't choose between g923 £300 T248 £300 or TX leather edition £400. First ever wheel. Like the look of the g928, for the same price though better ffb with the T248 or even better on the TX but im hearing about of lot of the TX models breaking a couple months after use. The pedals are better with the T248 so I'm starting to lean towards T248. Any help and advice would be appreciated.
i recently upgraded from my old Logitech G25 which i bought when it was new and used until a week ago. To a Thrustmaster T248. It's fine and all, The FFB feels fine and i love the pedals. Plus it's a lot more quiet than my old G25. But i really hate the feel while turning the wheel, It really does feel like turning a grinder. And the parts of the wheel where you hold it feel a lot less comfortable compared to the leather on the G25. I heard the leather got improved with the G27 and further but i can't say i ever felt one of those. To conclude, I really like my new T248 but the grindy feeling when turning it, Specially when turning it slightly or slowly, Is really annoying. P.S Edited the commend to fix a small typo i made.
Come ti trovi dopo un mese? Sto pensando anche io di fare l'investimento, ma venendo da un'intera platea di prodotti Logitech sono indeciso se cambiare....
Please help. My budget is no more than £350 for wheel and pedal set. Just want a good all round package that won’t brake on me in under a year. It will be my first wheel so just want a good solid reliable setup. I would prefer the g923,the only thing holding me back is the reviews I’ve seen about the pedals failing because of the senses.
The G923 pedal sensors failing is not a widespread problem, Logitech are renowned for manufacturing reliable products. If you wait until Black Friday, I expect the G923 to be nicely discounted over that's sales period.
So I just ordered a g923 for my xbone x. Got it for 300, and got a shifter incoming. I’ve never had a wheel and even though the reviews are pretty mixed, for a first timer would you say it’s plenty viable? I just wanna drift and drive a bit to see if this is something I could invest more in.
You will enjoy it a lot, and for drift, is better the G29 series than the 248. The worts things is the pedals, the damm sensors with time always fails until be unplayable, but the wheel still working after 2200 hours.
The PlayStation equivalent, for the G923, is the PlayStation edition of the G923. There are two models of the G923 to cover console compatibility. Performance is of course identical.
Thrustamseter has crappy material for the wheel itself. Logitech feels a lot more premium and quality. BUT yes the pedals for he thrustmaster t248 is way better.
Logiteh are clowns when comes to this. Dont buy this wheel for your kids or your own. Its very expensive from what you fot there. Im very sad i didnt go for t300. Wonder how it can be legal to take 400$ for g923?. The wheel: its okej standard. The pedals: plastic feeling but ok. The sound: omfg its not okej at all. You can get better stuff for cheaper price but if go 600$ , you get what you whant and can start race with fair and stable stuff.
Not rlly. Logitech is more choppy, weaker, an just overall a “toy”. I enjoyed the leather and quality feel and the plastic T248 isn’t the best feeling, but I wear gloves so it isn’t a huge problem for me. Better and more responsive FFB Better pedals The shifting noise can get irritating but I don’t mind it so im good with it but you may wanna bare that in mind. Wheel does get loud too but you won’t notice it if you play with quite a bit of volume, again, bare that in mind. Overall, it’s a great wheel! I do league races with it in ACC and I don’t ever feel at a disadvantage to the other players!
@@atent5124 That's exactly it!! Thank you for your return, I had started to answer, but being at work, I forgot... But I still hesitate as much with the t300, which has almost the same price. Have you tried this steering wheel?? Some say it is smoother at the wheel, comparing with the T248
@@THESHADOW97139 I had the TX which pretty much uses the same mechanism, just a smaller degree of rotation. Id say its a lot smoother. The choice to be able to swap out rims as well is great! If you can afford it, get the add ons too because, while theyre overpriced imo, they work amazingly well with thrustmaster products. If you can, I’d get the T300. 1080 degress of rotation vs the 900. Its also stronger ☺️ The reason im swapping it out is because mine was pretty old and worn out and I couldn’t rlly find another TX/T300 to replace it so I sided for this as its in my budget
▶ Logitech G923 Review ruclips.net/video/R4cIpNRifgo/видео.html
▶ Thrustmaster T248 Review ruclips.net/video/lHm-rWu7wLs/видео.html
After 2 days using the t248 i can say is one of the best things i have ever bought. I have used the g29 many times and i can assure you that the pedals are a world apart in terms of feeling and quality.
Thank you for this comment, I have a g920 and thinking to upgrade to the thrustmaster. So you think it's worth the upgrade?
@@homerdohyt same here i currently have a g920 and looking to upgrade
@@SimplxTay I would recommend saving a bit more and get the T300 RS GT
@@homerdohyt No, you should save a bit more and get a T300 RS GT
@@TaxEvasionUS I've got xbox
Everyone has different minds about this wheels. Some of them likes G923, some T248, so, it’s your choice. Yeah, I know that most people like Thrustmaster wheels, but Logitech isn’t bad. I had also t248, but after 3 months it broke. I decided to buy G923, and I’m using it for 1 year, and it’s fine to me. And I felt, that G923 is better to me. So you need to pick that thing, that is closer to you
you could have gotten a T300RS for the same price with 3 pedals, that has a lot better force feedback, the G923 feels very weak and spins slowly. Also the option of switching wheels easily makes it worth it.
@@drbass9677 Yh but he might of not had a ps4 or 5 or pc. T300rs isn't compatible with xbox. Only downside
@@vexpyytyou can get tx for xbox
@@vexpyyt Thrustmaster TX??
@@haseebasif8301 yeah thrustmasger tx is
I tried both and in my humble opinion the TM is a better option!
Just got a T248. I love everything about it but the NOISE! The noisy plastic paddles and the noisy motor. I prefer my old TMX wheel for noise and nicer paddles but the T248 is so much more responsive and powerful for FFB and feeling those turns. I am still a crap driver on both and spin out a lot though. I am still trying different settings in games like Dirt 5, Wreckfest, Forza Horizon 3 (yeah I know it's old but still fun).
How do you use it on forza 3 as for me it doesn't work on forza 4 as it is too new
How do you mean ((the noice)) If a T248 is loud for you than you'd absolutely hate the noise my old Logitech G25 made.
That thing was loud, Extremely loud compared a T248.
Use small pads under the shifter of the t248 and that reduces the noise a lot!
Put a rubber band on the paddle shift.
Consider that if you want to add a shifter, logitech has one that costs $40 , and thrustmaster’s is $180 at least . And even if its better, its cool to have a shifter for only $40. So that gives the g29 a pretty cool advantage
You can make an usb adapter for the logitech shifter or buy one for 40$
40$ and won"t last long it's made from plastic
Yes but the th8a have a way higher quality and feeling plus you can shift in sequential mod and even make it a handbrake
Still over expensive i have to say but a really good product
@@ossisuomalainen an eBay h shifter would be a better purchase for around $90 you can get a full aluminium 6 or 7 speed shifter which looks and feels a lot better than the logitech shifter and feels very close to the TH8A. It also has the option of switching into sequential mode easily and quickly.
Just got a t248...its amazing, ffb is strong, control is spot on
Would you recommend it?
@@maximilianrhoades4121 absolutely, for a starter/intermediate wheel, it’s awesome. Best bang for the money. Plus is, it’s available, being it’s new tech. All outdated wheels are hard to come by these days, better or not…..the pedals alone are stellar, I think moving up there close to wheels like a fanatac
@@AudiototheEyeballs i bought it but have some problems with the pedals
@@Wongphee really, what kind of problems?
I think the Logitech g923 is 80$ cheaper than t248 in my country. The g923 has the leather and metallic shifters and pedals. The t248 is quite noise with the pedals but has better ffb than Logitech. Even tho logitech g923 is cheaper than t150, bruh…
I'll be attempting to buy the Thrustmaster T248 based on this video. I mainly play the formula 1 series and Gran Turismo.
I have the t248. Just purchased it last week. I wasn’t sure cause I saw some bad reviews, but it’s been great so far. The force feedback is great.
It was between these two exact wheels since the store I went to only carried these two.
@@mastervz4806 have you tried it in BeamNG Drive?
@@mastervz4806 I've had the t248 for just under a month now and it's been great. I've been playing f1 2020. I did find that the brake pedal was very stiff initially which led to the whole pedal unit rising.
@@MumenRider78 yeah I got the t248 too. I have the same issue with the pedals. I had to strap it down to the box it came with as a base for now. But need a more permanent solution.
@@mastervz4806 In this price range you will have to ... dial .... with the pedals
Informative as always
I appreciate that
My first and so far only wheel is a G29 which I bought last year. I paid just over $300 Canadian for it. The fact that the G920 (which is nearly identical minus the gimmicky "TrueForce" crap") is nearly $200 more is honestly ridiculous. Logitech DEFINITELY needs to move to belt or direct drive tech.
So I'm considering G29 and T248 for my PS5 rn, i've watched reviews on youtube and some says that g29 have a pretty bad brake pedal, so I'm pretty confuse on choosing the cheaper g29 or the t248, what do u think?
@@danielalfon9117 Go for the T248. G29 is loud, the force feedback isn't as good and there's simply more upgrading potential with TM products.
@@liamcdm3689 Ok thanks dude
My first wheel was the g27, but in all honesty, since the g25. There hasn’t been much improvements
@@danielalfon9117 if you want to learn drifting, G29 is a much better choice because the spinning speed is much faster than that of the T248. If you don't drift at all, tke the T248 for better force feedback on tracks. I'm not a pro sim racer and I sometimes like to drift around for fun, so i found the G29 much better when it comes to drifting.
I've used both. The T248 definitely feels better than the century old Logitech.
This is so hard to figure out. You say it's good and another says it's junk. Same with Logitech too.
Decade?
Bro the g923 came out 2 years ago dumbass
Thank you for such a detailed and technical review and comparison!!! …. 5 Stars!!! ⭐️ ❤
The g923 competes with the t150 and its worst then that wheel aswell. I have the t248 and I hate the plastic inside bruises my thumb after a long session. I like the enhanced ffb on ffb 2 setting
No it isn’t you stupid Singh. Talk when u know about response abs speed not smoothness and latency
Je fait repartir mon g923 pour un t248 ,je viens d un g920 et le true force apporte rien bien au contraire c est décevant
I have both. The Thrustmaster is so much better. I had to get the anti clicky tabs because my wife was complaining but I haven't had a single spin out with the thrustmaster. The pedals are superior compared to the logitech. I bought the Thrustmaster because the ghub no longer loads profiles and default doesn't change anymore.
Where did u get the anti clicking? And what is it called?
The G923 has a big minus for me. Notice the power plug ( 1:48 ). If it needs to be replaced the wheel needs to be taken apart. The T248, ( 4:11 ) however, needs only a new plug-in; wheel does not need to be taken apart.
My g923 pedals gave ou on me after 1 year . Now I will give thrustmaster a go … I play everyday at least 2 hours and on weekends maybe 18 paired together … pedals still work but will only go to 90% throttle and brake 60% and clutch engages brakes ever so slightly … I have tried everything to fix it . And just decided to move on
Sounds like the cables broke. Same issue I had on mine
Logitech i think you can find them for around $200 now the probably isn't a better time to get into simracing than now especially with DD wheels becoming affordable ive had my g29 for years and it still works like it did the day i pulled it out the box probably gonna hand it down to my son because i bought a moza rig littele over a month ago
My G27 Still running strong after 12 years! I wasted my money on the G923 with shifter bcuz it was on sale. I used it once and put it back in the box. The T248 just isn't worth upgrading to. The next level like a T300 or DD pro is a real upgrade IMO.
why would you spend 350 dollars on a very good wheel that is a clear upgrade of the g27 and not use it
even if the g27 is good, you might as well use something you have. what a waste
@@dylembo2912 It was on sale $330 with the shifter. I got it as a backup wheel incase the g27 stopped working. I have since started using the G923 since getting GT7.
@@labounti oh ok, makes sense
@@dylembo2912 g27 is stronger than g29 and g25 is strongr than all the above..
Nice vid..I'm getting A T248 next week..can't wait...I've had a T150 with T3PA PRO peddals before, I'm hoping the new one is better...Oh and I know how to 'numb' the clicking from the shifters......Ha !!
How do you damp the pedal sound
@artfull_dodger__ tie a shoe lace around it, there's a video on RUclips that shows you how, I did it and it makes them silent, probably too late now as your comment was a year ago but hope this helps bro
I was looking at the G923, but after watching a review on the shifter, i immediately changed my mind, and ended up ordering the T248 and the TH8A shifter instead. Have not gotten it yet though, so cant say anything about it.
Th8a would work with g923
@@nonyabizz3533 Yeah, lol... I found that out later 😅 Still think i got the right wheel though 🙂
I almost bought the T248. But looking at lots of reviews I picked up a T300 as it came back in stock just as I was buying the T248. Main reason was it being belt driven and very quiet. Also the option for swapping wheel's. As I fancy the F1 style wheel. I wi be taking the £3 a month insurance to get it replaced if it develops a fault.
from where did you get it? the official page?
@@jreyes2464 Curry's UK.
Too many problems on the T300 .....
@@THESHADOW97139 see, you say that and then another person says it's so great. Ugh. I don't know what to get. I guess anything is better then nothing. Lol.
@@Ryan-re1rs There are indeed problems on this steering wheel, but there are solutions :)
More in the end .... between the two, I recommend the T300 (there are only idiots who do not change their minds)
A word of advice, however, never set the ffb to the max... 70/75% and no more, this will already save you some of these problems.
Found a really good deal on ebay for a thrustmaster T248 for 125 it was also fully cleaned out the inside comments aswell good condition just didn't have the box or the spare spring but I prefer the stronger one that's already installed anyway
Great honest review. Thanks for making this.
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve had the g923 for about a year and haven’t had any problems. You can adjust the feedback in games like ‘Snow Runner’ because it constantly rattles in that game, and the 923 feels powerful too. If you’re not holding on tight it will pull itself right out of your hands. It’s my first wheel and pedal setup, so I have nothing to compare it too. The only things I don’t like are the lack of accessories. I ordered the magnetic shifter mod for the the one I have, but haven’t got it yet, and I wish there was a trucking shifter and a handbrake compatible for it. Also, I wish you could change the wheel if you wanted to. I just hope somewhere down the road they give us some better options for it.
Thrustmaster T248 is bigger and has more newton force... The Logitech is just mainstream... T248 is way better in my opinion
@@raf.nogueira yeah, I’m starting to want an upgrade. Maybe I’ll try it.
you could have gotten a T300RS for the same price with 3 pedals, that has a lot better force feedback, the G923 feels very weak and spins slowly. Also the option of switching wheels easily makes it worth it.
@@drbass9677 I bought the T248 and i'm having so much problems with it, it came with fault the buttons are not working and for about 2 months I still trying to get my money back with the fucking seller from Aliexpres..
Im really excited to get the Trustmaster t248 I've been a Logitech user for the last 3 years and had problems with
Both Logitech wheels the 920 and the 923. I will have the new wheel in a few days and I hope that it's what I'm expecting. I've seen the pros and cons on both wheels and I'm really excited to go with a sim company like thrustmaster rather the just a company that mainly makes computer parts.
so how did it go? any update
Hi! Did you finally found the t248 better than logitech?
I used to have the T-150. If I knew better I would have gone with the G29/G923, yes it does makes a bunch of noise, but it gives more and better details of what the car is doing.
I sold the T-150, got the G923, and just recently, sold the G923 and got a CSL Elite for the PS4/PS5. Pretty good I must say.
I have no experience with the T-248, but it replaced the T-150 as a decent entry to sim racing, I hope it is better though.
Just got the T248 for £199 and it’s a bargain considering the prices of the Logitech competitor wheels. Love it so far
What about the noise levels🤔very close to ordering 1 myself since the price drop
I just got it for €140 🎉
T248 is really better for Sim Racing, but the Fanstec dd Pro is the best and is sold out.And because of this problem I buy me the T248
For the price of the t248 and g923 you would get a lot more for your money if you stepped up to a TX or down to a g29/g920
I’ve tried many low mid and high end race wheels I prefer the g923 it’s practical and affordable for all types of people
T248 having high placed pedals was mentioned, but not particullary as negative. For me however it was so bad, it made it impossible to use. With short feet and only reaching up with my toes, it got exhausting very quickly. G923 was better and not the useless design shit as T248.
Guys if any of you want to help, I am trying to decide which of these two to buy because all the reviews I’ve seen so far chose the t248 but there is currently a 150$ discount on the g923. If anyone has a recommendation please let me know thanks😊
Where was discount?
Thank you for your comparison. I wonder if you enabled the TRUEFORCE feature for Logitech G923 during the comparison. Because you've choosen the T248 in terms of Force Feed Back. Did you do this while the TRUEFORCE is enabled? Thanks..
That is a fair question. I have used TRUEFORCE and even made a detailed separate video on this feature in the past. TRUEFORCE is good, but doesn't make up for the weaker motor power compared to the T248 for the FFB performance.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks for reply. It helps me about product which I will buy. 👍🏻👍🏻
No worries, I was asked often which one is better after publishing reviews for both wheelbases, so I made this comparison video to answer that.
FFB logitech 2.2nm
T248 3.5 nm
🤔 T300 3.9 nm .... for the same price ....
@@SimRacingCorner Have you used it in GT7 for PS5; that is my use case. Or does the FFB on T248 still beat it in GT7 with tru force
I'm so jealous of you guys who said they got T248 for less than £300. Here in Thailand, the Logitech G29+Shifter costs £246.38. Meanwhile, the Trustmaster T248 alone costs £300 (In case you interest more about T300 RS GT, it's £403.18). Oh did I mention that our minimum wage here is £7.5/day, so it's a no brainer for a starter to go for G29+Shifter really.
here in Brazil T248 (Steering Wheel + Pedals) around R$5000, G932 around R$2.500 to 3k full set (pedals, shift, etc)....
@@xloucassiogaming3236 agora está por 1.800 reais
T428 doesn't come with carpet stoppers? That's a big let down for me considering I don't have much space to work with so my pedals will have to be on the floor :/
nice comparison for me, lot of questions have been answered, thank you. I just have one more question, how noisy are the gear shifters of T248? do I need to reconsider buying one? I'm like living in a flat, I have neighbours, I have roommate etc. would it be a real problem for me to racing at midnights? Thanks.
They are very clicky. Quite a possibly a problem for the roommate, not the neighbours.
A melhor comparação que vi,saindo de um G920 e indo para t248 ou g923! Logitech tem um suporte muito bom no pós venda,ja a trustmasters eu não sei..g923 esta maia caro também
Cara, eu vendi meu g29. Agora estou na dúvida entre esses dois volantes também. O que me puxa muito pro lado da Logitech é a questão da garantia, volante deu problema eles trocam, simples assim. Por mais que eu já tenha visto que Thrustmaster é melhor e a vontade de comprar um seja grande, me vejo mais inclinado para logitech. Ainda mais nós que estamos no Brasil, e aqui é tudo imensamente mais caro, precisamos ter uma segurança a mais onde colocamos dinheiro kkkkk.
Very informative video.. im after wheel predominantly for EA WRC and rally games.. given the logitech has less force feedback would thst be better or would you go with the T248? Thanks and nee subscriber here .
For rally games, you typically dial back the FFB strength, so the Logitech is fine if that's your only use for the wheel. That said, you can also do the same with the T248, and T248 still remains the better all-rounder across all driving games between the two. Is it PC or console you plan to use the wheel with?
@@SimRacingCorner apologies it's for ps5.. so I'm just after what's going to be best for my needs. I prefer the look of the Logitech. but not sure as they're both the same price which go for . I thought I'd ask as do value your advice. Thanks
Okay. PC gamers get more hardware options these days, so it's worth checking that. Logitech wheelbases are generally very reliable, and the wheel rotation is smoother than the T248. So there are a couple of things the G923 has over the T248. The G923 isn't a bad option, but the T248 pinches the win in a head-to-head.
Which is likely to be quicker in f1 22 if the g293 is compatible with trueforce?
Being very sensitive to look and build materials of a wheel, do you think this can be a real argument to go on the g923? I don't like the t248, most t300rs around me gets faulty, so in this price range remains the g923. I love it's look but I'm afraid by the reviews. Thanks !
Logitech wheelbases are very reliable, the T248 is unproven yet in this respect as it's a new product. So that's something. But technically the T248 remains the superior driving wheel between the two.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for your answer. So I'm ok to deal with this, for look and reliability. My Driving Force Pro still works since 2006 (but is obsolete), plus my brother just bought a T248, so we will be able to try both wheels :). Keep on good work!
@@Crisot. how you getting on with the t248 mate?
@@Crisot. how are you getting on with it bro? Im stuck between buying a used G920 and T248
@@WiseFoolTrades I'm still happy with it, but you must be aware of its limits: the FFB is not very strong, still informative but less than a T248. BUT: Meanwhile, my brother's T248 is dying, the wheel "cracks" when turning left, and unfortunately this issue now looks common, more and more peoples are reporting it. Both wheels are a bit more than 1 year old. So the T248 is a superior wheel, but the reliability makes me chose the G923 again. To be honnest, I'd like to have something a bit stronger, but avoiding Thrustmaster products for their reliability, the next step is much, much more expensive. To be perfectly honnest: The G923 will make you buy a better wheel, the T248 can make you buy a replacement wheel... I hope this helps.
Is T248 better than G923 on games that support Trueforce? So for example how do they compare head to head on GT7?
Would u recommand t248 for forza horizon as a new comer or just stick with g923?
No Euro Truck Simulator ?
The cable on the back off the pedals platform from the Logitech is braking between the pedals and the wall.
This is why i have to buy a new steering wheel. On the Trusmaster is the cable cumming from the left or right side much better.
I don't play ETS. The cable on Thrustmaster pedals can come out on either the left or right.
The thrustmaster looks corny tho
I think it looks better and more realistic considering the fact the Logitech has a gaming controller in the middle of the wheel.
@@Brac_repsthat’s exactly what I was thinking 😂 that’s one of the main reason I’d pick the T248 over the G923
@@damarcusgreer8802 t248 just wont last tho
@@nonyabizz3533Actually, the Thrustmaster’s brakes would last longer, since there is no physical interaction inside the system, it would take a lot longer to wear itself out. And for the paddles, just get a square foot of foam, cut out a little piece and put it behind the paddle…..idk why people get so mad about that.
@@DragCentral4772 Nah man Thrust master is great on the mid scale. But on entry level never would I consider them. Way to many issues with it dying the the first couple months.
the thing about the G29 pedals is very important because with time, they always fail, usually after 1200-1500 you will have "false contact" problems, at the begining is fixed just cleaning inside the potentiometers, but after hours and hours, the wear is too much and you can't stop the false contact with nothing... I will buy a entire T248 just for that :(
Fair points indeed.
There are replacement kits for the potis online :)
@@user-ce5oh4bp4l I know but I'm sure about how change it, at the end I still with my G29 but I bought a Thrustmaster TCL-M pedals and I don't regreat, you can improve more with good pedals than a better wheel. Of course a better wheel gives you more sensitivity and that, but listening to my comunity with they Fanatecs and Thrustmaster, they have lot of problems of disconections are extrange malfunctions. I'm still with a G29 with more of 2000 hours and still working perfect. My friends on the comunity says "fallatec", is like "failnatec" in english XD
I bought both the G29 with shifter and the T248 for the same price $349 USD for GT7 and I I’m trying both and I don’t know which one to keep what do you think sir. I appreciate your opinion.
If you watch to the end and my conclusions, it's the same result with the T248 vs. the G29.
@@SimRacingCorner so the t248 even without the shifter ?
@@michaellattanzio For me, it's about the quality of the force feedback and the pedals. And the T248 beat the G29 in this respect.
@@SimRacingCorner thank you !
Thank you for this detailed comparison but what about game compatibility, will the T248 still work with games that are not officially supported?
On PC it' should be fine with everything, I don't know about consoles.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for the reply, it is for PC. I just can't decide which one to buy and the compatibility was a worry.
@@mixtervandal The T248 is PC and Xbox compatible, Thrustmaster have not released a Playstation version of the wheelbase yet. However I have no idea if the T248 is compatible with all Xbox games. It probably is, but I don't have an interest in console racing games to follow that side of things. If you email Thrustmaster support I would hope they can answer that.
On PC the T248 is compatible with all games. On PS4 & PS5 the wheel is recognized as a T-GT Wheel and so is also compatible with all games.
@@davidwild8932 Thanks David, thanks the answer I was hoping for :)
T128 should be great at half the price us and just over half europe.
A t248 can be had voor 289 euro (349 rrp) and the t128 is 199 euro rrp, so maybe 180 retail?
I had no idea the T128 had just launched, I'll take a look at that.
Is it worth upgrading from the g920 to a t248
I have had the tmx pro for many years now and I want to upgrade. I am thinking of getting the T248 since I can get it for £250 on Amazon would you say it's worth the upgrade?
The only difference is, it's more powerful than the TMX. So that's the upgrade! But I'd recommend the TX instead, the FFB is more refined and smoother than the T248.
I bought d 933 and plugged it in and got a power surge..i bought a new power adaptor but it still won't work.. never even got 2do 1 lap wit it so had to send it back now I want to buy a new version...any ideas ,????
Please help! I can't choose between g923 £300 T248 £300 or TX leather edition £400. First ever wheel. Like the look of the g928, for the same price though better ffb with the T248 or even better on the TX but im hearing about of lot of the TX models breaking a couple months after use. The pedals are better with the T248 so I'm starting to lean towards T248. Any help and advice would be appreciated.
Tx leather if u can buy it or the t248
i recently upgraded from my old Logitech G25 which i bought when it was new and used until a week ago. To a Thrustmaster T248.
It's fine and all, The FFB feels fine and i love the pedals. Plus it's a lot more quiet than my old G25. But i really hate the feel while turning the wheel, It really does feel like turning a grinder. And the parts of the wheel where you hold it feel a lot less comfortable compared to the leather on the G25. I heard the leather got improved with the G27 and further but i can't say i ever felt one of those.
To conclude, I really like my new T248 but the grindy feeling when turning it, Specially when turning it slightly or slowly, Is really annoying.
P.S Edited the commend to fix a small typo i made.
Same here
Is the FFB On the T248 more powerful or does it feel more powerful because the wheel itself requires more force to turn?
The T248 has more torque
@@SimRacingCorner Right okay, cheers my guy
Found it!
Which is the quieter wheel?
In my country the g29 is 400 usd and thrustmaster t248 is 200 usd
Hello what games did you play for this video?
What are the dimensions for the T248?
Acquistato ora come primo volante il T248 anziché il G923, speriamo di aver fatto la giusta scelta …
Come ti trovi dopo un mese? Sto pensando anche io di fare l'investimento, ma venendo da un'intera platea di prodotti Logitech sono indeciso se cambiare....
Please help. My budget is no more than £350 for wheel and pedal set. Just want a good all round package that won’t brake on me in under a year. It will be my first wheel so just want a good solid reliable setup. I would prefer the g923,the only thing holding me back is the reviews I’ve seen about the pedals failing because of the senses.
The G923 pedal sensors failing is not a widespread problem, Logitech are renowned for manufacturing reliable products. If you wait until Black Friday, I expect the G923 to be nicely discounted over that's sales period.
G923 is pretty bad deal I’m pretty sure. If your going Logitech just go g29 or g920.
In my country. The logitech g29 or g920 cost 400$ and the logitech g923 cost 330$ 🗿
@@Wolviest damm wtf bruh😂
@@danielalfon9117 *yes*
It`s same .....
G923 has TRUEFORCE... pretty VERY bad idea is choose G29 G920
bought a new T248 for 170 GBP. Is that a good choice?
That's very good, you did well for the price.
Which wheel would be better for drifting?
The G923 has less mechanical friction than the T248, so I would say that would suit drifting more.
So I just ordered a g923 for my xbone x. Got it for 300, and got a shifter incoming. I’ve never had a wheel and even though the reviews are pretty mixed, for a first timer would you say it’s plenty viable? I just wanna drift and drive a bit to see if this is something I could invest more in.
As it's your first force feedback wheel I'm sure you're going to enjoy it. It's a good starter wheelbase, and it's good for casual racing.
I got my first wheel to purchased Logitech g923 with the clutch as well. So pumped!
You will enjoy it a lot, and for drift, is better the G29 series than the 248. The worts things is the pedals, the damm sensors with time always fails until be unplayable, but the wheel still working after 2200 hours.
T248 or T300 RS GT ? I can get both at same price point..
T300
Whats the game he’s playing ?
This 248 or t300 RS GT?
I answer this in my main T248 review: ruclips.net/video/lHm-rWu7wLs/видео.html
looks like you are comparing an Xbox wheel to a Playstation wheel - what is the Playstation equivalent to the G923 ?
The PlayStation equivalent, for the G923, is the PlayStation edition of the G923. There are two models of the G923 to cover console compatibility. Performance is of course identical.
I bought a T248 and after trying out I sold the G29
How is it
Is there a cheap 3rd party shifter that works with the t248?
Yes, if you're a PC gamer.
OK I guess I'll buy thrustmaster. Bye logitech :(
Same lmao
Thrustamseter has crappy material for the wheel itself. Logitech feels a lot more premium and quality. BUT yes the pedals for he thrustmaster t248 is way better.
The 248 with custom wheel>
t248 all day logitech if not direct drive is pure shit for me
Thrustmaster T248 is bigger and has more newton force... The Logitech is just mainstream... T248 is way better in my opinion
What was the game being played at around 16:29
KartKraft
T248 is the best.
but why?
Logitech = toy
Thrustmaster = entry level sim racing
Here in 2022, yes, correct!!!
which wheel would be better if the only games i’m playing are f1 2020 and f1 2021?
I would say the T248. Stronger FFB helps you feel tyre traction, and driving Formula cars that's super helpful.
And neither ..... if you have more money
Logiteh are clowns when comes to this. Dont buy this wheel for your kids or your own. Its very expensive from what you fot there. Im very sad i didnt go for t300. Wonder how it can be legal to take 400$ for g923?.
The wheel: its okej standard.
The pedals: plastic feeling but ok.
The sound: omfg its not okej at all.
You can get better stuff for cheaper price but if go 600$ , you get what you whant and can start race with fair and stable stuff.
The Logitech wheel is better than the Thrustmaster, but the Thrustmaster accessories are better than Logitech's.
Humm .... no .
Not rlly. Logitech is more choppy, weaker, an just overall a “toy”. I enjoyed the leather and quality feel and the plastic T248 isn’t the best feeling, but I wear gloves so it isn’t a huge problem for me.
Better and more responsive FFB
Better pedals
The shifting noise can get irritating but I don’t mind it so im good with it but you may wanna bare that in mind.
Wheel does get loud too but you won’t notice it if you play with quite a bit of volume, again, bare that in mind.
Overall, it’s a great wheel! I do league races with it in ACC and I don’t ever feel at a disadvantage to the other players!
@@atent5124 That's exactly it!!
Thank you for your return, I had started to answer, but being at work, I forgot...
But I still hesitate as much with the t300, which has almost the same price.
Have you tried this steering wheel??
Some say it is smoother at the wheel, comparing with the T248
@@atent5124 However
Logitech can be a lot louder than the T248
@@THESHADOW97139 I had the TX which pretty much uses the same mechanism, just a smaller degree of rotation. Id say its a lot smoother. The choice to be able to swap out rims as well is great! If you can afford it, get the add ons too because, while theyre overpriced imo, they work amazingly well with thrustmaster products. If you can, I’d get the T300. 1080 degress of rotation vs the 900. Its also stronger ☺️
The reason im swapping it out is because mine was pretty old and worn out and I couldn’t rlly find another TX/T300 to replace it so I sided for this as its in my budget
Logitech could’ve done a better job on those flimsy clamps.
Actually, the Logitech clamps are more sturdy than the Thrustmaster solution; that has a chance of snapping when over tightened.