Is Thrustmaster Back On Form? | T248 Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- With Thrustmaster having released their product roadmap only a few weeks ago, we've already got our hands on their T248 Hybrid Drive wheel and T3PM pedals. With comparisons to the T150 rife in its marketing and being priced up against the likes of the Logitech G923, how well does it stack up against the competition? Does the inclusion of a customisable display grant it a spot in your sim racing setup? Watch now to find out...
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At first I was a little skeptical with the $399 pricing and my first ever wheel but I just picked it up for $350 and so far I'm liking it. If I continue to use it for several years to come, I might have to upgrade to one of those high end ones 😅
how is the wheel now bro?
This is becoming a great channel.
Always wss tbh
As someone who mostly drives road cars in BeamNG Drive, I would LIKE the paddles. They seem like they would feel like cheap plastic paddles like Acura or BMW uses. Having the large metal paddles of my G920 is a bit too "race-car" when you're driving an Integra or a TLX.
That’s an interesting point, something I never considered! I guess like with everything, it’s down to preference 😊
Regarding aesthetics at 9:40, I disagree about old TM design. The T300 looked great. Simple and no gimmicks.
I just brought two of these one for each console. I have not used them yet, but I ended up getting the PS5 version free of charge so I only spent £110 on each wheel. I went for this one despite loving the look of the G923 but as a techie or former techie the LCD was a gorgeous thing to have. However, the videos that I have watched are pretty much the same it is 51% for this wheel and 49% for the G923 so this is slightly better in reviews. I am not a sim racer, but this was just on my bucket list for things to have before I kick the bucket.
I just bought the new DD wheel from Fanatec. I have had a T150 and just wanted much better quality and performance. Have to wait a few months to get it. So hope the wait will be worth it.
So I bought this wheel because I had a TS-PC and ClubSport V3 pedals and needed a solid wheel and pedal set for GranTurismo. Went with the T248 because it was new and had loadcell brakes, and honestly I do like the wheel for what I need it for. If I would have thought about it more, I would have bought T300 base and the T3PM pedals separately so I could use my wheel addons, but other than that I say its a good wheel. Shifters dont bother me when Im actually racing
How is it now? Is it reliable? Thinking about replacing my about to be broken T300 with either a second hand T300 or a T248
Nice review. SimRacing 604 was given a free one and shilled it hard yesterday
Looks like it’s been lifted out of a Vauxhall Insignia. 😅
*Frantically googles "Insignia Interior"*
Wow, you're not wrong 😂
Where I live the T248 is a little over 1.5 times as expensive compared to the G923. Even off sale. So I was planning to go for the G923 anyways, but I still wanted to see how it compared to the T248. Anyways, great video!
update?
@@Willy_Wanka Bought the T300 RS GT + TH8A shifter eventually on black friday via a local webshop. I've really enjoyed simracing so far and I'm planning to upgrade the pedal set soon. I decided to get the T300 instead of the T248 because of the T300's swappable wheel rims, the T300's faster centering speed and because on sale it was cheaper then the T248 aswell.
@@kartoitska8944 oh ok, I want a clutch pedal and get by without paying too much money so I'll probably get the g923 set bu we'll see
@@Willy_Wanka The T300 RS GT came with a pedal set that has a clutch. But I plan to upgrade to the TLCM's anyways. The G923 is a good choice if you don't plan on upgrading too much. Unless you want to go for 3rd party mods of course. But if you want a cheaper option, the G29 is also still a great wheel.
@@kartoitska8944 lol bro I just stopped competing in karting for a few reasons so now I need something to fill the void so I'll be fine I think
I like the paddles on the t150. Why couldn't they just move those ones over to this model instead of spending money designing worse ones?
Marketing. Now they can list "magnetic paddles" as a selling point
@@118Shadow118 but it's better
Magnetic shifters on almost all high-end wheels have a lot more tension and are louder. I guess I don’t see how that is such a negative if it’s more tactile and gives a more positive shift.
They sound very clacky in person, & they don't feel great imo
No magnetic paddles are way quieter, these ur neighbors can probably hear u shift 😂 I just got one and its way way louder then u would expect.
Pre ordered the t248 last week to tie me over till fanatec products become more available. And instantly regret my choice after watching this.. THOSE SHIFTERS ARE SOOOOO LOUD
@Vux I am waiting for the PlayStation compatible version of the CSL DD.. so I have freedom to play on both pc and PlayStation. that’s why I pre ordered the T248to put me on.. there’s no telling when the ps version is coming out.. and no doubt it will be in high demand and be really long wait times again
That magnetic plastic click is amplified since the wheel is made in plastic - Was is it made in metal the sound wouldn't bounce that much..
No mention of T300 RS
The price is on 7:58. That's all you need to know, folks.😅
The question is, why would anyone buy this wen a Thrustmaster t300rs GT is 400 euros new? For 50 euros more you have a much better product that can be upgraded with different wheels....
Or you could get the regular T300RS and T-LCM for not that much more
Considering that the Logitech’s g923 can be found for less than £199.99 now, this new T248 will have a hard time selling for regular price
Really? I want a g923 but in my country the cheapest I could find it is 320€
@@ivailoivanov01 They always confuse it with the older version g29. The g293 was never below 250€ within the last 12 months
Loud paddel shifters, thats my kink
Is this a downgrade from T300rs gt? Apart from pedals
Not in any way
@@StaticM223 u sure? I really need to buy one
Sure, t300rs is way better
t300 is way better considering its price
T300's pedals sucks they are absolutely crap
in my country t300rs gt is 50% more expensive than t150 pro. but if t248 is double the price of t150 pro, it could be more expensive than t300rs gt here. should i wait for the t248 or better just buy t300rs gt instead?
I would buy the t300
T300 is way better. Check out some reviews of it and you will see. I do like Thrustmaster for some of their stuff (T300, open wheel rim, T-LCM pedals), but I honestly don't know what they thought, when designing the T248...
Can you try to talk more about the things which can't be seen in pictures and actually matter? Like the force feed back. I don't care about the button placement or the shifter paddles.
Yes I agree
Thrustmaster needs to do direct drive compatible with all t300 wheel addons and pedals so people can just upgrade the base
I have a choice of either this or the g923 for my ps5…
I now have no clue which one will be best. Lol!
How is the fan in this series? Thrustmaster used quite cheap & loud fans in previous models, including the T300/TX that were often quite noisy...
it's pretty much silent
I could've used more info on how it compared to the Logitech in the most important department: FFB. Is it more powerful than the G29/923? I take it they're very similar in power output given you said it was a toss up. I was hoping this product would bridge the gap between the G29 and the now discontinued CSL Elite wheelbase. Apparently not. Very disappointing.
Im assuming its close to tx power. Seeing as the t150/tmx have the same output as the g920. And the t248 is supposedly 70% stronger than the model its replacing.
@FacePwn64 for the t248 is 3.5 nm of torque the t300 is 4 nm i think
Much more powerful. Pedals are worlds better then the G923 and you can just add thin rubber damper on the shifters and reduces the noise immensely.
That’s a great review
Question in mind is how does it compare with T300 RS GT edition?
Thanks
I am saving money for the CSL DD :D
Good decision, I can only dream how well the dd must feel :)
@@TimFerber I hope the best, but there are some month left to save the money. I isn't just the wheelbase, the steering wheel is just as pircey. And every review recommands the 8nm version with the boost kit ... just more money.
Thrustmaster going backwards instead of forwards. Maybe a reasonable entry level wheel but personally I'd buy a second hand TX wheel or G920 before moving up the food chain to Fanatec/simcube
As it stands, T150 Pro is a better bang for your buck (and I doubt those new pedals feel better than T3PA with conical brake mod) while T300 is just superior for about the same price. Looks like Thrustmaster is looking for suckers with this one, honestly.
It makes the same power as the t300, has better pedals and ffb is adjustable plus the buttons are mappable. So its not that bad of a deal.
How t3pa pedals feel the same as the t3pm?t3pa s are pretty trash at brake feeling,even with that cone mode,not to mention the squeaking from them since the 2nd day of use! T248 seems way better than t150 pro,even with it being made from plastic. The t150 pro only has the paddles from metal,so i m not sure if its better than the t248
@@greaseball-r2f Well, I haven't used T3PM, but I got pretty good use from T3PA and they're generally praised all over so it's not just my impression that they're pretty good for non-loadcell pedals.
@@steelin666 Prbly bcs of the price they are so praised,but my experience with them was pretty bad,squeaking from the 2nd day of use,that brake mod ,for me was nothing like ,,real feel,, how some might say. The t3pm looks very promising,I had the t lcm ones and this looks way better than the t3pa
@@greaseball-r2f T3PM are stylized after TLCM so there may be some placebo effect there. I doubt any of them is anywhere near TLCM though, neither in terms of quality, nor precision.
Does anybody have any info on when fanatec will be releasing a csl Direct Drive wheelbase for the PlayStation? I can only find info about pc and xbox :(
Fanatec has officially stated within the CSL DD launch that it 'expects new products to fill this gap' on PlayStation devices: traxion.gg/fanatecs-csl-dd-is-a-cost-effective-direct-drive-wheel-base/
It also has a partnership with Polyphony Digital: traxion.gg/fanatec-and-polyphony-digital-partner-to-create-new-sim-racing-products/
2+2=5?
Excellent quality video mate
I had g923 which was overheating on 2 separate models, so I returned it.
I think it is a little bit unfair to compare the price directly to the t150 because of the pedals, something which you didn't go into a lot (I mean the t150 one). They are trash, being honest. So it isn't just the wheel difference, but I think it should be compared to t150 pro, and here the difference isn't as massive in terms of the price
This wheel seems larger, is that the case? Also seems more like a normal car wheel than a racing one, maybe why many don't seem to like its design, I don't mind honestly but it's way too expensive, should be $300 max or even under
I’d say it’s actually fairly small feeling relative to it’s rivals, maybe the looks are deceiving on the video. And it looks remarkably like the wheel of a Vauxhall Insignia!
@@TraxionGG well dk about Insignia's wheel, but it really did look a bit bigger to me from pictures and video.
I'm gotten kinda used to how small the racing wheels are but I still wouldn't mind something a bit bigger. Although not ready to pay more money for it and only wheel's i've tried (except for an older logitech wheel like 12 years ago) are the g29 and t150.
Im glad i found this my buddy is about to get the g923 and i was looking at the t248 but im thinking i just want to spend the money now and get a good fanatec now instead of later
I swapped my G293 out to a thrustmaster as it always felt like I had a loose ball joint .
Great work guys. Was thinking about this one but still think I'll be getting a G923 come Black Friday. Keep up the great work 👍
you're better off getting a t300rs
Yes, if you want to spend 350 EUR, get a T300! It is purely belt-driven and so feels very smooth, compared to a T150, T248 or G923. Also, you can change the wheel rim (the TM "open wheel" rim is a great value for 120 EUR.).
I got a g923 and I’m happy
Yeah no... g923 is just a 20 year old g25 now with added vibration for one or 2 racing games. No thanks.
Pls get a t300 rs
T248 vs T300? Both cost same
They are almost the same force it looks like but you can't change the steering wheel, and its not full belt drive. It would say T300, and upgrade to loadcell later.
T300 eyes closed ! Cheaper than the 248, always sell with T3PA and you can change wheel !
Thrusmaster sell this one, the T248 wayy too expensive...
3:52 Its a downside... if u want to unplug any cables, u have to remove the wheelbase... but yet, its a nice beginner setup.
Just bought one of these great review
Just purchased these t3pm pedals to replace my T3pa pedals. These look way better. I’ll spend around 30-40$ after I sell my T3pa so yeah I’ll spend that much and pair them with my t300. Stoked for these pedals. Who’s excited for Forza Horizon 5 ?!! jYeasss! I AM! Cheers everyone!…✌🏼
How are the T3PM holding up for you? I have the T3PA-GT with my T300 & they aren't bad, but I would like to upgrade them; was thinking of going to the T-LCMs first to keep compatibility with Thrustmaster
The T248 is available a lot cheaper in the meantime. I found one for 225€ and decided to try it out. But man those gear shifters are a bummer... and what also bugs me is the button layout from the wheels control panel on Windows. Why can't we have the Playstation layout? All buttons are simply just numbered. That means in a game like F1 2021 menu's tell you to press button 4, 12 or 28 but the actual buttons on the wheel itself ofc look like Playstation buttons. So it takes some annyoing learning to recall which number is the L1 button, the Options button sosf. The pedals are great. This is why I'm uncertain if I keep this or send it back to get a Logitech...
Don’t get a Logitech, it’s extremely loud and the FFB is worse
Great review! You are going places my friend…SUBBED!
T300 is the best for this price range.
bro the ones on amazon got real shitty reviews even the new ones seems like a lot of lemon stock ☹
The wheel is compatible with Gran Turismo Sport and The Crew 2?
You can find the G923 for $220 USD here in Mexico. So this one better be twice as good!
G923 is gear driven, this is belt driven.
A G923 makes around 2nm of force on the highest setting. Enough power to get some feedback from the wheel but the force isn’t strong at all. The Fanatic DD2 belt driven wheel makes a peak torque of 25nm. That can break your wrist if you don’t let go of the wheel when you crash.
@@filetminyion5302 So? The Fanatec cost about 10 times as much, and this new T248 2 times as much. I’m just hoping it’s twice as good.
@@pablovi77 just wanted to point out there are belt driven and gear driven, two completely different markets. Thrust master is not competing with Logitech. The competition here is the fanatic csl dd which will probably be better.
Gear driven wheels like Logitech have always been cheap. You can find them for $100-$300. Belt driven wheels on the other hand have never been this cheap. They’ve always been $1000+ because of how hard they are to manufacture.
@@filetminyion5302 And this is not a belt driven wheel, it’s hybrid or something, and the video is comparing them, I’m just commenting on what the video said.
@@filetminyion5302 t248 is hybrid, so it still has gears
So what's the difference between T3PM and T-LCM in terms of stiffness for all 3 pedals?
THE T-LCM comes with 2 other sets of springs for tension adjustment and the BRAKE is a LOADCELL not a PROXIMITY switch . almost like the BIG BOYS. at $249.00 from THRUSTMASTER. But they are not in stock at this time. 10/03/2021. Ordered mine STILL WAITING.
This or TX Leather Edition ?
I play on pc.
Tx is a really nice wheel IMO
Using the t248 for pc playing ets 2, how does it compare to logitech g29?
Does anyone what the max thickness is for the desk clamp ?
Looks are not irrelevant. It looks from an Opel. I would go for the t300.
so yeah conveniently forgetting to tell people that this platform is NOT in the Thrustmaster Eco system .. wheel can NOT BE replaced or UPGRADED.. so if you want to have some future add on/update or just more wheels.. you lose.. far better option = T300 GT with t3pa pedals.. same price.. better options for upgrades and wheel rims.!
I'm guessing the t300rs gt is a better deal?
I'm kind of hesitating, this seemed good to me at first, because it has the screen and that seems handy to have but now that I've read the comments I think I might go for the t300
On a related note: do you think the external screen thrustmaster makes is worth it if I would go for the t300, because it's rather expensive but then again, a screen does seem handy. And with the detachable wheel of the t300 you can mount it behind the wheel with a bracket they make so it's in a good position.
Can you find a t300 anywhere? I am out of luck so far so I resorted to a shitty c29 but I want a real setup so bad! Lmk
@@eliterl9378 I live in belgium and ships seem to have them here
The t3pa sucks so i'm going for this
cover the silver finishing with carbon fibre then i it will look good.
Im have t150 one year and belt have broke noise...
those new pedals definetly seems like upgrade to t3pa that is much needed
Does anyone know if this is compatible with ps3? (I know it's not officially). I'd like to do some 2-wheel splitscreen.
T300 should ne in the comparison in here if we are talking same price range and quality-performance
Is this worth upgrading to if I have the Logitech g29?
No
No, get the t300rs GT instead
Does it support other thrustmaster wheel rims
Nope, the T248's rim isn't interchangeable.
I'd get a fanatec, but nothing is in stock... So the T248 it is...
3:15 "Thrustmaster are going to get this thing supported on basically everything"
Two years later and it's still 10 games. So yeah....
😬
Do you know if the sf1000 will be compatible with the t248 wheel base.
Unfortunetly, the T248 doesn't support interchangeable rims.
@@TraxionGG sorry, another question is the sf1000 compatible with the tgt2?
@@TraxionGG I have the sf1000 I just need to find a wheelbase that supports it because my tgt is worn out and not working to the ability that it can.
@@nathanielfrederick9928 💪😂
Does it support acc on ps5?
Should get the T300RSGT. Alot of benefits rather than this
Plast Master.
So T248 or g923
is it so hard to make shift pads that dont move with wheel ?
Come on Logitech, your turn
Hello Sir. Can use t248 to ps3?
TheT248 states compatibility with PS4 and PS5, with a list of titles on their website it is compatible with available here: www.thrustmaster.com/en-ie/products/t248/
@@TraxionGG thank you Sir..
Why can't they make it look good.
Pedals -nice
Rim - a bit ugly
I like the wheel. But the clamp is garbage
I'll stick with keyboard
This is basically a T150 that retails at 150 for 400$ lol The Great Recession is here
no
i hope nobody buys that T248 😂😂
was this made in 2004? looks horrendous and is a slap in the face to customers
@Vux yeah literally 🤣
switched to fanatec, waiting for the CSL DD to come next month then sell this thrustmaster wheel lol
looks like hori toy
lol dead on arrival!
Just saying, a Xbox Series S is $100 cheaper. Rather have that than an overpriced wheel with way too much plastic, small wheel, and same internal drive as a T150.
What a ugly wheel.... Looks like a plastic toy for a 6yo kid.
I got one it is shit very disappointing it’s hard to say but I got ripped of
400$ and no eco system.
No Xbox?? Boo. Hopefully that may come soon since that includes a lot of the console market.
I think there’s supposed to be a Xbox version by the end of the year
Styling needs some work
No
dissapointing. for this price it'd need to atleast be belt drive
It’s hybrid drive which Is belt and gear driven
This thing is so absolutely ugly.
T248 have much problems
Like which ones?
Hell no Thrustmaster! This new wheel looks like crap to me. I would honestly rather have the T150 Pro even at the same price of $250 any day. Good news for me I have the T300RS GT that blows this pile of crap out of the 💦. Also good news for me I found the T300RS GT Edition on eBay in excellent condition last week for just $300 and I got the TH8A 7 speed shifter also used in like new condition for only $170 for a $470 total. So for only $70 more you do the math. I would also choose the Logitech G29 over this any day as well for nearly half the price. You asked the question is Thrustmaster back in form and the easy answer is absolutely not! It’s a plastic pile of overpriced crap and I feel sorry for anyone who buys it. I would put it between the T80 and the T150 so it should be priced $199 half the price. Shame on you Thrustmaster for creating this abomination of a wheel. For $400 you should have a successor to the T300 RS that’s only $350 right now and a much much better wheel!
Doesn't the T300 support different rims as well? This doesn't even do that. You're stuck with that nasty-looking wheel.
@@TheQuackleDKZ Correct the T300 RS supports many choices of wheels and I agree and hate the way this new wheel looks.
It's ugly.
Why don't you guys use the "product provided" function that RUclips provides?
We've added to the description that the product was provided to us for review purposes for clarity. This review is not paid for or product placement, it's an unbiased look at a new product.
I've never seen a "Product Provided" feature on RUclips. That sounds a bit weird and overly specific
There's an "Includes Paid/Sponsored Promotion feature" but in terms for reviews supplying just a product is generally not considered payment.
It's a necessity as most channels can't afford to buy every single product that comes out.
So companies provide products for review or just to be used in videos. They get exposure and the content creator gets something to create content about.
Another cheapo steering wheel from a cheapo brand... After running the TMX for a while now (also all plastic, except the paddles) I am never going back to Thrustmaster.
So you bought the almost lowest tier product and expected, not the lowest tier quality? They have higher tier products like the TS-PC, TS-XW, T-GT, T-GT II, T300 and TX.
Which are all more expensive but have better build quality and features. That's kinda how consumer electronics work
@@BallisticTech No I didn't expect much, but other products from Thrustmaster I've had were also cheap feeling/cheaply built I felt, so... no worries, I'm sure they will be fine without me:)
pretty sure this review is either copied or copies another review
The initial $400 launch price was a little high, with the faster, more powerful (≈4.5nm vs ≈3.5nm) and fully belt driven T300RS being just +$50 more back then (aka $450) if you were ok with its hugely inferior pedals. (Well that, or the T300RS GT at +$100 more/$500 if you wanted a better, 3x pedal box w/ its T3PA's; although even THOSE were still not as good as the then brand new T3PM pedals the T248 has!)
But now that it's only around $300??? (And occasionally even goes on sale to ≈$260-$270!!! 😳🤯). It's literally one of, if not THE absolute BEST sim-racing wheel + pedal option under $400!!!
That said, if you ARE willing to spend >≈$400 though, then you should really just go entry level direct drive, ala Fanatec's currently just $400 (so like $435 w/ tax) CSL DD bundle. 🤷