you forgot to mention that in Godzilla vs Biollante, Godzilla's own atomic breath was fired back at him 20k times stronger and he didn't even blink at it
Being a huge fan of both. Realistically, Gamera would absolutely get stomped. The fact that Gamera and his foes perceive missiles as a threat that must be dodged/avoided kind of speaks for itself.
Problem is, that was G1, gamera got much stronger from then on, especially since the missiles did no damage to him since hasagi didn't take damage from them, note any damage done to a guardian is reflected onto their priestess.
I mean think about it The world we live in if these Kaijus in Gamera universe existed It would be much easier to deal with rather than Godzilla’s Kaijus Most of Goji and his enemies are completely immune to humans’s most advanced technologies 💀
@@lunaitor-uq9hz I know, poor Gamera is outclassed in incarnations and strength, but just for fun, I'll show you how each Gamera incarnation could square up hopelessly against each Godzilla incarnation. Gojira 1954 vs Showa Gamera: Showa wins with no diff Showa Godzilla vs Showa Gamera: Showa Goji wins with mid diff. Heisei Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera: Heisei Goji also wins with mid diff. Burning Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera: Why is this even a debate? Godzilla 2000, GiraGoji, and KiryuGoji vs Toto: Individually, they win. In a team, RIP Toto. GMKGoji vs Toto: GMK wins with low diff Final Wars vs Toto: We both know who's winning, do we? Legandary Godzilla, Evolved Godzilla, and Thermonuclear Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera and Rebirth Gamera: Individually, and in a team, we all know who is winning. Shin Godzilla vs Rebirth Gamera: Shin wins with mid diff. Godzilla Ultima vs Rebirth Gamera: Ultima wins with mid diff. MinusGoji vs Rebirth Gamera: Rebirth finally wins a battle with low diff Godzilla Earth vs all Gameras: I'm not even going to say the answer, it's unfairly one-sided. Special fight Haikaishin Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera: Haikaishin wins with low diff.
There are a lot of stylistic differences between Gamera and Godzilla that make these matchups impossible. Gamera faces typically faster or more agile opponents than Godzilla, which also gets coupled with the fact that the directors were never afraid to damage the Gamera suit, or hurt gamera severely. Gamera ruitinely gets gored, stabbed, shot, and even dismembered. While godzilla directors opt for a flashy graphic to display power without usually injuring godzilla visibly. With some notable exceptions like turning him into a blood fountain once 👀 This particular difference confounds match ups because not only do both universes operate on different physics for their kaiju, it also makes it hard to claim "Gamera is immune to nukes" when gamera is not immune to being dismembered.
So basically the whole situation is "a fighter jet and a tank switch their places". The tank now has to be able to take down vehicles that fly way faster than him and the jet has to be able to endure a lot of damage.
Plus it's the fact that godzillas healing factor is exponentially faster and more prominent than gameras, one keeps on fighting with otherwise serious wounds and the other took a day to heal after a single fight
Most people forgets that the Super X weapon platform used a special anti-nuclear weapon system. Designed solely to wreck Godzilla and ran out really quickly after the first battle. So while I do believe Gamera would get wrecked in Heisei Godzilla I do think he'd manage Super X if nothing else. Biollante is questionable. While a piece of her Scale, or Godzilla's depending on which path you accept. That was a single cell that managed. With Godzilla's healing factor I could see why it'd work. The major problems comes in when Gamera deals with Mecha-G and beyond. Honestly in my opinion that is where he stops. Even if Gamera could recognize and adapt to Biollante there is zero chance he handles something literally built to kill the G-man. Godzilla on the other hand wouldn't pause with Gyaos. Those guys are like a smaller Rodan. You saw how much Godzilla smacked him around. Now Legion is the kicker. Will Godzilla recognize the danger here? I don't think so. Gamera only knew due to his connection with the Heisei Gamera's Mana set-up. The first flower would go off wiping that town from existence. The second one would never get off though. Godzilla would devastate it. Against Legion itself? That's a bit of a risky choice. In pure power Godzilla wrecks it, but we also know its not power based with that guy. Legion generated enough power to easily blast off chunks of Gamera. Then there is the Hive itself. Hundreds of thousands of little versions. This would be the more difficult issue for the G-man, but he'd abuse the Nuclear Pulse ability. He'd have to. I won't even bring up the last one. Yeah its strong, but it was like an Anti-Gamera thing. So Godzilla could easily smash his way through that one.
I'd think gamera can take mechagodzilla specifically cuz it was designed to go against godzilla but was specifically weak to high temperatures, something gamera is more than capable of, personally I'd say he stops at space godzilla though it would be fun seeing how space g and gamera's methods of absorbing energy from the planet would look.
@@reginaldb.pensworth2545 The thing is the original Heisei Mechagodzilla had an artificial outer coating that had to be removed thanks to Rodan dying for it to be taken out. That actually allowed the Heisei Mecha-G to survive several direct impacts of Godzilla's breath. So without the sacrificial Rodan I don't think Gamera will take him out.
@@jonathanwoodruff6741 thing is the outer coating melted, it clearly has a limit on how much heat it can endure, reason I say it's heat based and less specifically focused on fire rodan's sacrifice is how the coat started melting after rodans absorbtion, with godzilla emitting the heat that melted off super mechaG's coating.
heisei Gamera is designed to adapt and scale to threats due to being designed as a bioweapon which is why he was destroying the hyper gyaos like they where nothing in gamera 3 despite them being more powerful than the gyaos' in the first movie. His body acts like the borg from startrek more than godzilla's healing factor so unless you take him out straight away he'd power creep fast. This the canonical reason why the suit designs changed from movie to movie fyi.
Actually, Gamera did not survive the Sendai explosion. He was for all intents and purposes in the story dead as a doornail. He was brought back to life and was done so again in the first movie Guardian of the Universe where he was literally recreated from scratch after a few gian oil tankers exploded. So, city level no maybe small town level.
Super X did not kill Godzilla, it basically put him to sleep cause afterward you can still see movement from Godzilla while he is laying against the building including seeing his chest move indicating breathing.
he's not dead in the sendai explosion he's alive if given a time he will heal but the thing is he don't really have enough time in the movie because there's still an alien army needed to be stop, so he chooses to absorb too much mana on earth in order to heal fast, but at cost of cutting his connection to humanity.
@@orochi2723 That's not what happened. According to the movie itself, Gamera is dead. Now, Mana is used to revive him just like what happened in the first film where he was literally reformed from the flames. He died twice.
@@michaellilly965 TF ARE YOU SAYING? YOU'RE MAKING YOUR OWN ASSUMPTION YOU'RE INSANE WHAT IM SAYING IS ACCORDING TO MOVIE TOO ACCORDING TO WRITER DIRECTOR ETC YOU CAN WATCH INTERVIEW LOL
@@orochi2723Seriously? Calling me insane for stating my opinion and what I had noticed from the movie itself. Neither statement I said is an assumption they are from the movies seen. The newspaper articles in the film all declare Gamera dead. If I have to go outside the movie to find what the movie itself declares contradictory, then the film was not made well take Rise of Skywalker; just a bad movie.
Godzilla was already overpowering MechaG in a head to head fight earlier in the film, but after the Rodan buff he gets, simply being in the vicinity of Godzilla was melting MechaG's diamond-plated armor away, it was melting the atmosphere away. Then he melted MechaG with a single blast, while the beam only gave MechaG power and did no damage earlier in the film. That red spiral beam goes through 2 to 3 bigger buffs in the next two films too. And Godzilla's weakest blue atomic ray did massive visible damage to Biollante, Ghidorah and Battra beforehand, so yeah Gamera arguably wouldn't get past even the Mothra/Battra tag-team even with the in-universe movie logic imo, any kind of scaling aside. And no, Rebirth Gamera doesn't demolish the Godzlla universe either, lmao.
Something I'd like to mention as well was the sendai explosion happened after gamera was brutalized by mother legion while gamera was trying to protect the citizens, tldr gamera took that while he was already at deaths door and took the brunt of it to reduce the damage. Another correction it wasn't his self destruct that destroyed Atlantis it was ultimate plasma, this wasn't another guardian it was gamera himself, hesei gamera doesn't even have the self destruct ability that one solely belongs to avant gamera. Additionally the ziggra scaling would work for hesei since hesei gamera fought ziggra during his weaker state earlier on in G1. Note gamera evolves and grows more durable with each passing movie, shown with G1 him being sliced by a regular gyoas super sonic scalpel, but a hyper gyoas couldn't even scratch him in G3. Lastly for the super x, it wouldn't scale to godzilla, he casually low diffed it later and the super x only nearly killed him cuz of a specific missile that absorbed radiation which poisoned him.
Bravo for actually using hard data , even those it just shows how ridiculous the attack levels actually are. You get the idea that if they belch, the planet explodes.😮
As much as I’d love to see it, the thought that Gamera could even hold a candle to Destoroyah is insane. Like yeah he would fight his hardest and go all out but Destoroyah is just the Kaiju equivalent to Doomsday, homie cannot be defeated by anything less than a power-boosted Godzilla who was stated to be able to destroy the Earth if he erupted and Destoroyah was STILL handing him his ass. Like we just gonna ignore the fact that Destoroyah was going toe-to-toe with the strongest version of Heisei Godzilla and was most likely going to kill him if not for human intervention? I mean think about it, if Godzilla wasn’t in meltdown mode, Destoroyah would’ve killed his son, killed him, and ended his bloodline and the Heisei franchise singlehandedly. Gamera is my guy but he gets fucking brutalized by Destoroyah, not to mention the ass whoopings he would take from Space Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, King Ghidorah, and Biollante. Shit, even Battra would probably hand him an L too.
Wow, if people are saying Destroyah has bad heat resistance didn't watch the movie based on how he died the conclusion you should get is that he's massively vulnerable to low temps cause the weapons that killed him were freeze rays.
12:56 really interesting how none of these characters would exist if goji and gamera swapped verses, it would be sick to see what gamera dna versions of biollante and space godzilla would look like, and i might not have my kaiju lore right, but mechagodzilla and destoroyah would prolly not even exist since gamera protects humans
I'd say Destoroyah would still exist because he came into existence to the result of the oxygen Destroyer that was used in the original 1954 Godzilla film.
7:44 You can't use explosive yield to determine the power of a chemical weapon, however the result is the same, '54 Goji is still more durable than Heisei Gamera
14:44 infact, destroyah was killed by the military so godzilla could have the spotlight when he died, and in the original script and the manga, DESTROYAH WAS TOOK DOWN BY GODZILLA WITH GODZILLA, AND WAS STILL ALIVE WHILE HE WAS BEING FUCKING MELTED
The Super X didn’t kill Godzilla. It only temporarily knocked him out. The film confirms he wasn’t dead. And before the lightning storm, one of the characters noticed Godzilla’s body twitching and stated that he is waking up soon. But other than that, I like how you downplayed Heisei Godzilla to multi-solar system just to make a point. Because we all know he is FAR past that level. Low complex multiversal level still stomps.
Some really great analysis! I hate to be nitpicky, but the explosion at Sendai actually killed Gamera. During a montage scene of different newspapers being printed, one of the headlines states that Gamera was completely carbonized. Though I don't think this completely invalidates the information you provided on his overall power scaling.
Destroyah own cells where being bombarded by both heat from godzilla and cold from the weapons from the army. It is stated that Destroyah can't handle extreme cold and heat which is why it dies ince its wings were frozen. The fluctuation of temperatures destabilize it
I am in my mid 50s. And since I was a little boy, watching Godzilla and Camera movies on TV I have always wanted to see a Godzilla verse camera movie. Please let it happen.
My issue with rebirth apart from the human animation were the out of place f-bombs when nothing else called for that kind of rating. Like it just felt edgy for edgy’s sake and was the reason that I couldn’t show the show to my parents or little cousins who love giant monsters
I think I know a guy who’s doing that but that debate is complete spite and when I get MV on the channel I wanna have him in a matchup completely one sided
That’s assuming they can absorb the same levels of power if someone absorbs a star and can’t handle it does that mean he is weaker than someone that absorbs a C4 and handles it
short answer, If we're looking at these monsters when their at their absolute best and most powerful? The people in Gamera's universe? once Godzilla got through walking through and over whatever the present "threat" was they'd be hoping and praying that he'd just leave and go back into the water. Which is always the main concern in each and every Godzilla film even when he's the "hero". They hope that the fight wears him out so that he has to go back into the water to recover so that he doesn't tromp through the city for a while. As for Gamera in Godzilla's universe? Yeah Godzilla's worse enemies can withstand multiple blasts from Godzilla's atomic breath. Others? are nimble enough to dodge it. Combined with the fact that most in turn easily out weigh Gamera? They'd be eating turtle soup by the end of the day and the people in Godzilla's universe would be hoping that Godzilla would soon come back! ruclips.net/video/Q0aDtTTHr9U/видео.html There is a reason why Godzilla is called the KING of the monsters. However I will end my statement with this. As I've stated other times. In a film where these two monsters actually clash. Ya wanna know who wins? To quote the late and great Stanlee Marvel himself. "Whoever the writers WANT to win"
Wasn't there an alternate explanation for SpaceGodzilla's origin? That one of Godzilla's cells was taken into space by Mothra? Or was that a dub error?
Gamera would probably team up with mothra and maybe even battra and super mechagodzilla wouldn’t exist because well there’s no Godzilla. Godzilla in the Gamera verse Godzilla wouldn’t need any help as he is strong af.
As well as the DC Crossover which isn't canon to the Monsterverse and takes place in a random DC verse cuz there's contradictions to it being the mainline verse, so that featless Godzilla also gets fodderized
@@brothsipper-h5oyou're right shin would get destroyed before he's able to to get to his most powerful evolution and minus one (according to Kaiju chronic) loses to the weakest version of gamera (rebirth version) so he will just get destroyed
Even the military is a threat to Gamera in the Heisei films, they are much more realistic in that way. Meanwhile, the weakest Godzilla's from both the Showa and Heisei are just tanking that shit constantly, and then some. It's no contest, lol. Still, I'd love to see a legit, official modern match-up between these two, we are long overdue for this.
Godzilla reacts to some Bullet Bill levels of slow moving crystals, power scalers: "it's an objective fact that this proves he can move at 100 million times the speed of light"
There’s something called the laws of physics they obviously can’t show stuff being millions of times faster than light so they just write it down in a book
@@suethafung7461no, anyone who uses “ object dodging” as the only measurement to scale speed is a whacko, there’s something called rule of cool that powerscalers will conveniently ignore to justify speed scaling that is contradicted everywhere else, my favorites are fire emblem spell dodging and ftl luffy snd link because lazer like object was dodged despite nothing else pitting them even remotely close to the speed of light
@firenze6478 Real and true. I also hate when people say that the monsters are moving at "hypersonic" speed. In reality they are moving at a normal speed for something their size. To an ant I would be walking that fast, bur only due to size
Aye bro. Mind if i ask how would heisei godzilla-burning heisei godzilla deal with ultraman kaijus? Since burning godzilla at max is infinite 5d and beyond, how would he deal with a lot of them?
My opinion Gamera scale: Heisei gamera(large planet lvl+)>showa gamera(planetary lvl)>rebirth gamera(moon lvl)>toto>gamera(2015)(city lvl) Godzilla cycle: Burningzilla(infinite 5D)>heisei godzilla(millions of layers into 5D)>milleniun godzilla(one shotted megagiurus who transcends space&time/5D)>legendary godzilla(survived the protonscream which is 100,000,000,000 times greater than the whole energy of the universe)>showa godzilla(millions of layers into 4D)>TOKYO S.O.S godzilla(hundreds of layers into 4D)>FW godzilla(planetary)>zilla jr(multi continental)>GMK godzilla(Island lvl)>zilla(town lvl)>millennium godzilla(city lvl)>shin godzilla(multi city block)>FW zilla(building☠)
In my honest opinion, I genuinely doubt Zigras red lasers were capable of causing 18 magnitude earthquakes. We see some of the lasers hit the ocean floor. Where's the massive amounts of immediate decimation that should show up the moment that happens?
What would happen if we drop Godzilla 1998, his offspring and his oldest son from the animated series on Skull Island and see how each of them survive. 1. How would Godzilla 1998 survive 2. How would the babies survive(on their own or in small packs & with and without parent) 3. How would Godzilla from the animated series survive
Hey there may be no chance of gamera doing this but what if just to make it fair gamera plus all the mana possible for gamera to hold at once can we do that to make me feel better about one of my favorite kaijus
You mean Iris vs Destoroyah ? Then Destoroyah clapped because he is stronger than Space godzilla who star-solar systems atleast in low-end and multi galaxy at best in high-end
Gamera would need a massive power upgrade like the Monsterverse Kong in order to even stay alive in the Hesei Godzilla verse. Battra LARVA fought Godzilla to a stand still no sold all his atomic breath attacks and survived falling into a volcanic crevice with Godzilla.
I would've thought Gamera would do ok in the context of fighting foes like Biolantte or Destroyah due to his affinity for fire, excellent speed, and his intelligence (retreat and formulate strategy). I think his greatest hurdles would be the Mechas, Ghidorah, Space Goji, and maybe even Rodan (being a fire affinity flier). Godzilla stomps the Gamera foes with no need for 2nd rounds, but Gamera wouldn't be a terrible guardian for Godzilla's world.
Zilla and zilla junior shouldn't be able to and -1 can't be killed by gamera but gamera won't die from -1 either if we're using highballs. Legendary which thematically fits the best is bassically on equal footing with hyperballed gamera but if we hyperball legendary too then gamera is getting cooked.
It's literally just cause of the Gamera Netflix series and people being biased towards it and Godzilla being "overrated/overwanked"... It's REALLY annoying Same thing usually happens to characters like Superman or the Hulk, just cause they're known for being so powerful, they usually get downplayed against a more underrated opponent...
Even though Gamera feat wise is not close to most Godzilla verses, I still love Gamera and he is the only non-Toho Kaiju I would accept beating Godzilla in a crossover
Gamera is my favorite and what I like about him is even though he takes so much punishment he gets back up and he beats a lot of ass also, I really don’t understand how people think he is a rip off of Godzilla when he is completely different
People think he is a ripoff because he is a Kaiju, even though the premise of the movies alone is different Gman was the monster while Gamera was a protector fighting the monster.
@Tok-co9opSolar System at least, in the film itself it is mentioned that Godzilla's cells survived a supernova explosion, This is reinforced in the Super Complete Works guide which uses information from the film's production and information described by Toho citing that the cell actually tanks the explosion.
Love to see that but there would probably be fights where godzilla do better than gamera and vice versa and maybe worst but depends on the era of both them and monsters they are fighting
I don't disagree with anything. The only thing I don't like about scaling is that if Gamera was the Hero character in Godzilla's universe. Meaning he had Godzilla's role, he'd pretty obviously get a power boost.
That's why Power Scaling isn't for everybody since it is just straight numbers, doesn't matter if you're the hero if you're numbers aren't high enough then you lose.
@ElHarmonyV I'm a way bigger Godzilla fan either way. Gamera has a great trilogy of films in the 90s, I think. Those were on youtube, might still be. He's cool, but he'd absolutely get wrecked without a power boost or some serious plot armor.
Respectfully they both will not win any of their fights. Godzilla breath against Baragon would be op, but against legion would drain him, Gamera would cut a few of Big G enemies in half but not any that can grab him.
Rei Ayanami is my favorite power scaler
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you forgot to mention that in Godzilla vs Biollante, Godzilla's own atomic breath was fired back at him 20k times stronger and he didn't even blink at it
That's true.
Imagine they reflected Gamara's fireball back gamara would die💀
Because scaling sucks
@@rattheeternal7658skill issue tbh
Power levels are bullshit
Being a huge fan of both.
Realistically, Gamera would absolutely get stomped.
The fact that Gamera and his foes perceive missiles as a threat that must be dodged/avoided kind of speaks for itself.
Problem is, that was G1, gamera got much stronger from then on, especially since the missiles did no damage to him since hasagi didn't take damage from them, note any damage done to a guardian is reflected onto their priestess.
Well that sounds a lot more interesting I'm gonna be honest.
I mean think about it
The world we live in if these Kaijus in Gamera universe existed
It would be much easier to deal with rather than Godzilla’s Kaijus
Most of Goji and his enemies are completely immune to humans’s most advanced technologies 💀
Godzilla would solo Gamera’s universe, while Gamera would be in over his head.
You could literally make Godzilla fight ALL Gameras, AT ONCE, and he would still win, just from how absurd the power difference is
@@lunaitor-uq9hz I know, poor Gamera is outclassed in incarnations and strength, but just for fun, I'll show you how each Gamera incarnation could square up hopelessly against each Godzilla incarnation.
Gojira 1954 vs Showa Gamera: Showa wins with no diff
Showa Godzilla vs Showa Gamera: Showa Goji wins with mid diff.
Heisei Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera: Heisei Goji also wins with mid diff.
Burning Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera: Why is this even a debate?
Godzilla 2000, GiraGoji, and KiryuGoji vs Toto: Individually, they win. In a team, RIP Toto.
GMKGoji vs Toto: GMK wins with low diff
Final Wars vs Toto: We both know who's winning, do we?
Legandary Godzilla, Evolved Godzilla, and Thermonuclear Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera and Rebirth Gamera: Individually, and in a team, we all know who is winning.
Shin Godzilla vs Rebirth Gamera: Shin wins with mid diff.
Godzilla Ultima vs Rebirth Gamera: Ultima wins with mid diff.
MinusGoji vs Rebirth Gamera: Rebirth finally wins a battle with low diff
Godzilla Earth vs all Gameras: I'm not even going to say the answer, it's unfairly one-sided.
Special fight
Haikaishin Godzilla vs Heisei Gamera: Haikaishin wins with low diff.
@@Mirus2000 I gotta say, you were overall pretty generous with Gamera there
There are a lot of stylistic differences between Gamera and Godzilla that make these matchups impossible.
Gamera faces typically faster or more agile opponents than Godzilla, which also gets coupled with the fact that the directors were never afraid to damage the Gamera suit, or hurt gamera severely. Gamera ruitinely gets gored, stabbed, shot, and even dismembered. While godzilla directors opt for a flashy graphic to display power without usually injuring godzilla visibly. With some notable exceptions like turning him into a blood fountain once 👀
This particular difference confounds match ups because not only do both universes operate on different physics for their kaiju, it also makes it hard to claim "Gamera is immune to nukes" when gamera is not immune to being dismembered.
So basically the whole situation is "a fighter jet and a tank switch their places". The tank now has to be able to take down vehicles that fly way faster than him and the jet has to be able to endure a lot of damage.
That just means they're stronger than a nuke.
@@gregormcscrungus9727 "just stronger than a nuke" lol
@@alexanderrahl7034 And yet you have no trouble acting like Godzilla's opponents are able to nuke a whole star system
@@gregormcscrungus9727 ... are you talking to me? Or the version of me you've made up that does that? 🤣
Plus it's the fact that godzillas healing factor is exponentially faster and more prominent than gameras, one keeps on fighting with otherwise serious wounds and the other took a day to heal after a single fight
Most people forgets that the Super X weapon platform used a special anti-nuclear weapon system. Designed solely to wreck Godzilla and ran out really quickly after the first battle.
So while I do believe Gamera would get wrecked in Heisei Godzilla I do think he'd manage Super X if nothing else. Biollante is questionable. While a piece of her Scale, or Godzilla's depending on which path you accept. That was a single cell that managed. With Godzilla's healing factor I could see why it'd work.
The major problems comes in when Gamera deals with Mecha-G and beyond. Honestly in my opinion that is where he stops. Even if Gamera could recognize and adapt to Biollante there is zero chance he handles something literally built to kill the G-man.
Godzilla on the other hand wouldn't pause with Gyaos. Those guys are like a smaller Rodan. You saw how much Godzilla smacked him around. Now Legion is the kicker. Will Godzilla recognize the danger here? I don't think so. Gamera only knew due to his connection with the Heisei Gamera's Mana set-up. The first flower would go off wiping that town from existence. The second one would never get off though. Godzilla would devastate it. Against Legion itself? That's a bit of a risky choice. In pure power Godzilla wrecks it, but we also know its not power based with that guy. Legion generated enough power to easily blast off chunks of Gamera. Then there is the Hive itself. Hundreds of thousands of little versions. This would be the more difficult issue for the G-man, but he'd abuse the Nuclear Pulse ability. He'd have to. I won't even bring up the last one. Yeah its strong, but it was like an Anti-Gamera thing. So Godzilla could easily smash his way through that one.
Also gamers in the hesie films he always adapts to scenarios so I think he would get a lot stronger in that universe
@@bethsevier3767if he knows that they’re coming for his ass or else he would become turtle soup
I'd think gamera can take mechagodzilla specifically cuz it was designed to go against godzilla but was specifically weak to high temperatures, something gamera is more than capable of, personally I'd say he stops at space godzilla though it would be fun seeing how space g and gamera's methods of absorbing energy from the planet would look.
@@reginaldb.pensworth2545 The thing is the original Heisei Mechagodzilla had an artificial outer coating that had to be removed thanks to Rodan dying for it to be taken out. That actually allowed the Heisei Mecha-G to survive several direct impacts of Godzilla's breath. So without the sacrificial Rodan I don't think Gamera will take him out.
@@jonathanwoodruff6741 thing is the outer coating melted, it clearly has a limit on how much heat it can endure, reason I say it's heat based and less specifically focused on fire rodan's sacrifice is how the coat started melting after rodans absorbtion, with godzilla emitting the heat that melted off super mechaG's coating.
heisei Gamera is designed to adapt and scale to threats due to being designed as a bioweapon which is why he was destroying the hyper gyaos like they where nothing in gamera 3 despite them being more powerful than the gyaos' in the first movie. His body acts like the borg from startrek more than godzilla's healing factor so unless you take him out straight away he'd power creep fast. This the canonical reason why the suit designs changed from movie to movie fyi.
Actually, Gamera did not survive the Sendai explosion. He was for all intents and purposes in the story dead as a doornail. He was brought back to life and was done so again in the first movie Guardian of the Universe where he was literally recreated from scratch after a few gian oil tankers exploded. So, city level no maybe small town level.
Super X did not kill Godzilla, it basically put him to sleep cause afterward you can still see movement from Godzilla while he is laying against the building including seeing his chest move indicating breathing.
he's not dead in the sendai explosion he's alive if given a time he will heal but the thing is he don't really have enough time in the movie because there's still an alien army needed to be stop, so he chooses to absorb too much mana on earth in order to heal fast, but at cost of cutting his connection to humanity.
@@orochi2723 That's not what happened. According to the movie itself, Gamera is dead. Now, Mana is used to revive him just like what happened in the first film where he was literally reformed from the flames. He died twice.
@@michaellilly965 TF ARE YOU SAYING? YOU'RE MAKING YOUR OWN ASSUMPTION YOU'RE INSANE WHAT IM SAYING IS ACCORDING TO MOVIE TOO ACCORDING TO WRITER DIRECTOR ETC YOU CAN WATCH INTERVIEW LOL
@@orochi2723Seriously? Calling me insane for stating my opinion and what I had noticed from the movie itself. Neither statement I said is an assumption they are from the movies seen. The newspaper articles in the film all declare Gamera dead. If I have to go outside the movie to find what the movie itself declares contradictory, then the film was not made well take Rise of Skywalker; just a bad movie.
im mostly surprised at how powerful G54 is, i never expected that
Godzilla was already overpowering MechaG in a head to head fight earlier in the film, but after the Rodan buff he gets, simply being in the vicinity of Godzilla was melting MechaG's diamond-plated armor away, it was melting the atmosphere away. Then he melted MechaG with a single blast, while the beam only gave MechaG power and did no damage earlier in the film. That red spiral beam goes through 2 to 3 bigger buffs in the next two films too. And Godzilla's weakest blue atomic ray did massive visible damage to Biollante, Ghidorah and Battra beforehand, so yeah Gamera arguably wouldn't get past even the Mothra/Battra tag-team even with the in-universe movie logic imo, any kind of scaling aside. And no, Rebirth Gamera doesn't demolish the Godzlla universe either, lmao.
I like the duality between the Twitter/X comments and the RUclips comments on how Gamera would do in Godzilla's universe
Don't tell me that twitter actually think gamera stands a chance
@@wassimtegheri1059 trust me,twitter can be much worse than you think.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon i know twitter can be brain-dead i just assumed that was only a small amount
Something I'd like to mention as well was the sendai explosion happened after gamera was brutalized by mother legion while gamera was trying to protect the citizens, tldr gamera took that while he was already at deaths door and took the brunt of it to reduce the damage.
Another correction it wasn't his self destruct that destroyed Atlantis it was ultimate plasma, this wasn't another guardian it was gamera himself, hesei gamera doesn't even have the self destruct ability that one solely belongs to avant gamera.
Additionally the ziggra scaling would work for hesei since hesei gamera fought ziggra during his weaker state earlier on in G1.
Note gamera evolves and grows more durable with each passing movie, shown with G1 him being sliced by a regular gyoas super sonic scalpel, but a hyper gyoas couldn't even scratch him in G3.
Lastly for the super x, it wouldn't scale to godzilla, he casually low diffed it later and the super x only nearly killed him cuz of a specific missile that absorbed radiation which poisoned him.
Bravo for actually using hard data , even those it just shows how ridiculous the attack levels actually are. You get the idea that if they belch, the planet explodes.😮
Godzilla: would only struggle with iris and would prob super slam gyaos and the legion
Gamera: dies as soon as biollante comes in
Gamera wouldn't attack Super X so there would be no pieces of skin around to make Biollante meaning Biollante wouldn't exist
he wouodnt struggle with iris
As much as I’d love to see it, the thought that Gamera could even hold a candle to Destoroyah is insane. Like yeah he would fight his hardest and go all out but Destoroyah is just the Kaiju equivalent to Doomsday, homie cannot be defeated by anything less than a power-boosted Godzilla who was stated to be able to destroy the Earth if he erupted and Destoroyah was STILL handing him his ass. Like we just gonna ignore the fact that Destoroyah was going toe-to-toe with the strongest version of Heisei Godzilla and was most likely going to kill him if not for human intervention? I mean think about it, if Godzilla wasn’t in meltdown mode, Destoroyah would’ve killed his son, killed him, and ended his bloodline and the Heisei franchise singlehandedly. Gamera is my guy but he gets fucking brutalized by Destoroyah, not to mention the ass whoopings he would take from Space Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, King Ghidorah, and Biollante. Shit, even Battra would probably hand him an L too.
Real.
I hate how many people forget that Destoroyah OVERPOWERED Burning.
Wow, if people are saying Destroyah has bad heat resistance didn't watch the movie based on how he died the conclusion you should get is that he's massively vulnerable to low temps cause the weapons that killed him were freeze rays.
12:56 really interesting how none of these characters would exist if goji and gamera swapped verses, it would be sick to see what gamera dna versions of biollante and space godzilla would look like, and i might not have my kaiju lore right, but mechagodzilla and destoroyah would prolly not even exist since gamera protects humans
I'd say Destoroyah would still exist because he came into existence to the result of the oxygen Destroyer that was used in the original 1954 Godzilla film.
Gamera weight 120 tons
Godzilla weight 60,000 tons
correct, one punch and Gamera is turn into a pool of guacamole
Ah Flyweight and super heavyweight
Extremely super heavyweight @@-Chilldude-
@@deinVater751extreme super giga hyper heavy weight
Godzilla absolutely takes over while Gamera is turned into soup and never heard from again.
11:44 They would get obliterated before Godzilla even takes one step towards them 😭
Yea Godzilla is extremely strong compared to gamera
The Big G would solo all of the kaiju from the Gamera verse, except for maybe Iris
Айрис умирает с первого удара
Honestly your not wrong its like the people who firmly believe batman could beat anyone
15:24 i like how you made the imbecile mispell Destoroyah's name 😂
7:44 You can't use explosive yield to determine the power of a chemical weapon, however the result is the same, '54 Goji is still more durable than Heisei Gamera
Heisei Gamera without statement is weaker than his own silly and cartoonish incarnation which is crazy bro💀
He's basically the male reptile version of Mothra.
14:44 infact, destroyah was killed by the military so godzilla could have the spotlight when he died, and in the original script and the manga, DESTROYAH WAS TOOK DOWN BY GODZILLA WITH GODZILLA, AND WAS STILL ALIVE WHILE HE WAS BEING FUCKING MELTED
Dude looks at all the research and even references other experts (Deathbattle) massive respect from one detail searcher to another👍
The Super X didn’t kill Godzilla. It only temporarily knocked him out. The film confirms he wasn’t dead. And before the lightning storm, one of the characters noticed Godzilla’s body twitching and stated that he is waking up soon.
But other than that, I like how you downplayed Heisei Godzilla to multi-solar system just to make a point. Because we all know he is FAR past that level. Low complex multiversal level still stomps.
Some really great analysis! I hate to be nitpicky, but the explosion at Sendai actually killed Gamera. During a montage scene of different newspapers being printed, one of the headlines states that Gamera was completely carbonized. Though I don't think this completely invalidates the information you provided on his overall power scaling.
Destroyah own cells where being bombarded by both heat from godzilla and cold from the weapons from the army. It is stated that Destroyah can't handle extreme cold and heat which is why it dies ince its wings were frozen. The fluctuation of temperatures destabilize it
I am in my mid 50s. And since I was a little boy, watching Godzilla and Camera movies on TV I have always wanted to see a Godzilla verse camera movie. Please let it happen.
You got some good content. I’ve been looking for kaiju stuff thank you
They need to make new Gamera movies! Not animated real ones! I’m shocked they haven’t with the monster verse success
My issue with rebirth apart from the human animation were the out of place f-bombs when nothing else called for that kind of rating.
Like it just felt edgy for edgy’s sake and was the reason that I couldn’t show the show to my parents or little cousins who love giant monsters
9:28
Bruh Gamera just got insulted lol
Chad Gorosaurus.
Based man who will comment on every video he sees.
What is the song that plays at 3:55?
I wanna see heisei gamera vs legendary godzilla or showa gamera vs showa godzilla
That be cool and awesome me I love to see the new version of gamera from the anime gamera rebirth vs legendary big G
For the next power scaling video could you do Legendary Godzilla and Heisei Godzilla due to the debate of who is stronger
I think I know a guy who’s doing that but that debate is complete spite and when I get MV on the channel I wanna have him in a matchup completely one sided
My two cents: excess radiation killed Heisei Godzilla yet gave MV Godzilla a temporary power boost without harming him in any way.
That’s assuming they can absorb the same levels of power if someone absorbs a star and can’t handle it does that mean he is weaker than someone that absorbs a C4 and handles it
Super X didn't kill godzilla technically, it knock him out of commission for a bit
Nice vid bro
Can you do a vid scaling all the different versions of Gigan?
I'm sorry this mofo ain't beating destroyah lmao
Mofo ain't beating Biolante 😭✋
MOFO AIN'T BEATING THE SUPER X
Showa godzilla: no reaction light work
Where is the Omni man vs word girl
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short answer, If we're looking at these monsters when their at their absolute best and most powerful? The people in Gamera's universe? once Godzilla got through walking through and over whatever the present "threat" was they'd be hoping and praying that he'd just leave and go back into the water. Which is always the main concern in each and every Godzilla film even when he's the "hero". They hope that the fight wears him out so that he has to go back into the water to recover so that he doesn't tromp through the city for a while.
As for Gamera in Godzilla's universe? Yeah Godzilla's worse enemies can withstand multiple blasts from Godzilla's atomic breath. Others? are nimble enough to dodge it. Combined with the fact that most in turn easily out weigh Gamera? They'd be eating turtle soup by the end of the day and the people in Godzilla's universe would be hoping that Godzilla would soon come back!
ruclips.net/video/Q0aDtTTHr9U/видео.html There is a reason why Godzilla is called the KING of the monsters.
However I will end my statement with this. As I've stated other times. In a film where these two monsters actually clash. Ya wanna know who wins? To quote the late and great Stanlee Marvel himself. "Whoever the writers WANT to win"
Thank you for the amazing content bro
Nice video and analysis 🙂👍
I had no idea space Godzilla was High universal and the fact that hasiai Godzilla killed this guy makes him high Universal to.
So,you never knew of godzilla?
Dam video right before my birthday
mach 3500? 2,684,500 MPH? I won't deny the transition is fast for gamera and Gaos getting that high, but I think it might be a bit of movie magic.
Wasn't there an alternate explanation for SpaceGodzilla's origin? That one of Godzilla's cells was taken into space by Mothra?
Or was that a dub error?
Godzilla vs gamera is so one sided it’s a joke that even death battle knows is right
Gamera would probably team up with mothra and maybe even battra and super mechagodzilla wouldn’t exist because well there’s no Godzilla.
Godzilla in the Gamera verse Godzilla wouldn’t need any help as he is strong af.
Try doing heisei godzilla vs godzilla earth with one of them is the most powerful
I love and respect both monsters, but I agree Godzilla is definitely stronger
This is like Mario and Sonic switching places.
Mario might have a chance in sonics world though gamera couldn't set foot in Godzillas
There is no version of Godzilla that wouldn't solo the Gamera verse.
No, the 1998 version doesn't count.
Minus One and Shin get slammed
As well as the DC Crossover which isn't canon to the Monsterverse and takes place in a random DC verse cuz there's contradictions to it being the mainline verse, so that featless Godzilla also gets fodderized
@@brothsipper-h5oyou're right shin would get destroyed before he's able to to get to his most powerful evolution and minus one (according to Kaiju chronic) loses to the weakest version of gamera (rebirth version) so he will just get destroyed
Even the military is a threat to Gamera in the Heisei films, they are much more realistic in that way. Meanwhile, the weakest Godzilla's from both the Showa and Heisei are just tanking that shit constantly, and then some. It's no contest, lol. Still, I'd love to see a legit, official modern match-up between these two, we are long overdue for this.
Not sure if your gonna see this but can you do 1999 gamera vs gmk goji? That’s a better matchup imo
Godzilla reacts to some Bullet Bill levels of slow moving crystals, power scalers: "it's an objective fact that this proves he can move at 100 million times the speed of light"
There’s something called the laws of physics they obviously can’t show stuff being millions of times faster than light so they just write it down in a book
@@suethafung7461no, anyone who uses “ object dodging” as the only measurement to scale speed is a whacko, there’s something called rule of cool that powerscalers will conveniently ignore to justify speed scaling that is contradicted everywhere else, my favorites are fire emblem spell dodging and ftl luffy snd link because lazer like object was dodged despite nothing else pitting them even remotely close to the speed of light
Sounds like cope lol
@firenze6478 Real and true. I also hate when people say that the monsters are moving at "hypersonic" speed. In reality they are moving at a normal speed for something their size. To an ant I would be walking that fast, bur only due to size
@@i_hate_all_of_you8770 and how fast is normal speed exactly since you know about everything about characters speed without anything to back it up
W video as usual 🔥🔥
Just a suggestion you should do a power scaling for all the gamera rebirth kaiju to end all these things about who is the strongest of them
Video 19 of asking for Gojichrinic to powerscale the entire Godzilla 1998 universe (Godzilla 1996 included, the script should be there online)
Heisei godzilla sometimes gets downplayed alot lol
love ur videos
Can you do a video with aizen from bleach
I just want to see big turtle vs big space chicken
Comparing gamera and godzilla in power, is like comparing spiderman and superman
Aye bro. Mind if i ask how would heisei godzilla-burning heisei godzilla deal with ultraman kaijus? Since burning godzilla at max is infinite 5d and beyond, how would he deal with a lot of them?
one shot
@ThatManConzilla Ultraman got black eyes from Godzilla at the Showa era. Galaxy level, but can't handle cars thrown at them at lil child speed
@ThatManConzilla yeah, but Toho and Tsuburaya made a hypothetical battle and Ultras got fucked by Godzilla and Ghidorah in their fights.
@ThatManConzilla Ultraman only get's as high as 4D while Heisei godzilla has More consistent 5D scaling and Burning Godzilla is infinite 5D.
@ThatManConzilla We are talking about ultraman, Also Heisei godzilla has a boundless statement so cope.
My opinion
Gamera scale:
Heisei gamera(large planet lvl+)>showa gamera(planetary lvl)>rebirth gamera(moon lvl)>toto>gamera(2015)(city lvl)
Godzilla cycle:
Burningzilla(infinite 5D)>heisei godzilla(millions of layers into 5D)>milleniun godzilla(one shotted megagiurus who transcends space&time/5D)>legendary godzilla(survived the protonscream which is 100,000,000,000 times greater than the whole energy of the universe)>showa godzilla(millions of layers into 4D)>TOKYO S.O.S godzilla(hundreds of layers into 4D)>FW godzilla(planetary)>zilla jr(multi continental)>GMK godzilla(Island lvl)>zilla(town lvl)>millennium godzilla(city lvl)>shin godzilla(multi city block)>FW zilla(building☠)
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In my honest opinion, I genuinely doubt Zigras red lasers were capable of causing 18 magnitude earthquakes. We see some of the lasers hit the ocean floor. Where's the massive amounts of immediate decimation that should show up the moment that happens?
Probably didn’t have enough cash to show it it was really expensive to show damage but then in Kaiju movies
Budget reasons.
What would happen if we drop Godzilla 1998, his offspring and his oldest son from the animated series on Skull Island and see how each of them survive.
1. How would Godzilla 1998 survive
2. How would the babies survive(on their own or in small packs & with and without parent)
3. How would Godzilla from the animated series survive
I think that at the rate they birth and grow skull island is gone in what a month but some survive like magma turtle
How about Godzilla vs Ultraman? That could be a good video. The first Ultraman vs Showa Godzilla or the first Godzilla.
@ThatManConzilla i know but I wanna see these two in a video. Two iconic Tokusatsu figure in a battle. That is a dream come true.
@ThatManConzillaYou would be surprised.....
You’d be surprised they had multiple Crossovers
@@suethafung7461 yeah
@ThatManConzilla Ultraman only got to insane scaling after multiple series. In the original run Ultraman is not that strong.
"Gamera fans" what are those???? Legit never heard of them
Hey there may be no chance of gamera doing this but what if just to make it fair gamera plus all the mana possible for gamera to hold at once can we do that to make me feel better about one of my favorite kaijus
based on actual fighting factors, gamera could maybe take biollante, if he’s smart enough to use his defenses and time fireballs well
Biollante delegates gameras verse.
@@fillit8839 what happens when he flies
@@jacobsonstudiosgoji none of his powerballs would work, so either gamera eventually gets caught, of Flys away, biollante can be scaled to 5d to 11 d.
@@fillit8839 the hell does dimensions have to do with a spinny turtle
@jacobsonstudiosgoji dimensions has to do with biollante, she can be scaled to 11 d which is infinitely higher then 10 d, gamera is 3d.
What about video named "Godzilla vs Iris?" Or "Strongest enemy-kaiju of both series?"
You mean Iris vs Destoroyah ? Then Destoroyah clapped because he is stronger than Space godzilla who star-solar systems atleast in low-end and multi galaxy at best in high-end
Gamera would need a massive power upgrade like the Monsterverse Kong in order to even stay alive in the Hesei Godzilla verse. Battra LARVA fought Godzilla to a stand still no sold all his atomic breath attacks and survived falling into a volcanic crevice with Godzilla.
I would've thought Gamera would do ok in the context of fighting foes like Biolantte or Destroyah due to his affinity for fire, excellent speed, and his intelligence (retreat and formulate strategy). I think his greatest hurdles would be the Mechas, Ghidorah, Space Goji, and maybe even Rodan (being a fire affinity flier). Godzilla stomps the Gamera foes with no need for 2nd rounds, but Gamera wouldn't be a terrible guardian for Godzilla's world.
I think Dest would still win becouse the temperature needs to be,like,INSANE.
Atleast nuke+ lvl. Which is hotter than the sun.
Do a vid on Baki or a Godzilla vs Godzilla or a King Kong vid maybe another Jurassic park vid
Would Kamen Rider be interesting to scale.
3:59 I am glad this was mentioned in the video 👍
If you like op af verses, shure
Pretty much EVERY version of godzilla (except maybeeee zilla) will literally turn this version of Gamera into turtle soup
Zilla and zilla junior shouldn't be able to and -1 can't be killed by gamera but gamera won't die from -1 either if we're using highballs. Legendary which thematically fits the best is bassically on equal footing with hyperballed gamera but if we hyperball legendary too then gamera is getting cooked.
Shin and minus one are cooked they ain't winning unless shin gets to his strongest form
It's literally just cause of the Gamera Netflix series and people being biased towards it and Godzilla being "overrated/overwanked"... It's REALLY annoying
Same thing usually happens to characters like Superman or the Hulk, just cause they're known for being so powerful, they usually get downplayed against a more underrated opponent...
its more like "ooh a new monster so it is strongest!"
What Space Godzilla is W H A T!
Even though Gamera feat wise is not close to most Godzilla verses, I still love Gamera and he is the only non-Toho Kaiju I would accept beating Godzilla in a crossover
Love this vid, could u scale Gira Goji against every Godzilla
You forgot one simple fact... Gamera has heard no damn bell
Gamera is my favorite and what I like about him is even though he takes so much punishment he gets back up and he beats a lot of ass also, I really don’t understand how people think he is a rip off of Godzilla when he is completely different
People think he is a ripoff because he is a Kaiju, even though the premise of the movies alone is different Gman was the monster while Gamera was a protector fighting the monster.
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How come you take statements for godzilla at face value but not for gamera?
@Tok-co9op I didn't say he doesn't win I'm just stating a bias that he has
@Tok-co9opSolar System at least, in the film itself it is mentioned that Godzilla's cells survived a supernova explosion, This is reinforced in the Super Complete Works guide which uses information from the film's production and information described by Toho citing that the cell actually tanks the explosion.
Bro can u do how powerful is gamera rebirth soon please nice video btw👍
Gamera gets brutually massacred
Song name ?
Love to see that but there would probably be fights where godzilla do better than gamera and vice versa and maybe worst but depends on the era of both them and monsters they are fighting
All the data you've compiled is neat, but Gamera wouldn't last a round against Godzilla. There is no way.
He said in the vid gamera loses to the super x
Mine was a general reply, because the comparison has come up for years. Kinda like MCU vs DC fans. I just throw my two cents in.
So what I'm hearing is, buff Gamera 😂
I don't disagree with anything. The only thing I don't like about scaling is that if Gamera was the Hero character in Godzilla's universe. Meaning he had Godzilla's role, he'd pretty obviously get a power boost.
That's why Power Scaling isn't for everybody since it is just straight numbers, doesn't matter if you're the hero if you're numbers aren't high enough then you lose.
@ElHarmonyV I'm a way bigger Godzilla fan either way. Gamera has a great trilogy of films in the 90s, I think. Those were on youtube, might still be. He's cool, but he'd absolutely get wrecked without a power boost or some serious plot armor.
W video
Respectfully they both will not win any of their fights. Godzilla breath against Baragon would be op, but against legion would drain him, Gamera would cut a few of Big G enemies in half but not any that can grab him.