Not a 4 peice reciever kit, but the new Theos system from Diety comes damn close to that. That's what I'm upgrading my wireless kit to as soon as they are available. Quite a bit more expensive compared to these or the DJI mic, but you get the full 32bit float, and they can TC sync with their generator :)
@@JustWhatINeed83 They have 2 kits coming, the Theos is the standard two piece kit, and the other one is a crazy hybrid stereo recorder, can't remember the name, but it's the single option.
Hi folks, just had an idea. Two transmitters means we could have one on front and one on back of our talent. Much less risk of losing audio direct into the camera plus we get two back up recordings on the transmitters. Probably not needed indoors or in studio but for wide roaming talent outside it might be very helpful.
Thanks for the detailed review. I had hoped to see a head to head v the DJI, given the title. . One thing things I think you should have covered is more is on phone compatibility.. I use the DJI wireless on my android device. Its the only one I've found that allows me to record stereo on the phone. I haven't found a third party cable that allows this and I've purchased a half dozen, including the Synco -- two of them.
So, I bought these and 1 minute later I found a bug. When using a transmitter/mic only in standalone with no receiver, the ENC does not engage. I wrote to Hollyland and after multiple testing and them asking me to document with video, they came to the evidence that some batches have this problem. So they told me to return it and wait for an update or firmware later someday. I'm in Canada and we probably have the bugged ones :) Yes I tried several at different stores, all do the same.
Good review but what I have not seen from any reviewer do yet is using both mics to record a talk. Since the mics seem to pick up a lot of omnidirectional sound, I wonder if this could lead to phasing issues, when both mics pick up both persons.
Me again! In general 2,4 GHz systems will perform better when used near radio reflective surfaces. In that respect a wooded area may well be better than an open plain. Brick walls will also be somewhat reflective. Open plan offices are pretty friendly as well. Large sections of metal though - eg shipping containers - are likely to create radio shadows. These 'wifi' systems all monitor the in band channels and endeavour to skip to the cleanest one in an undetectable manner. For absolute peace of mind you need an alternative frequency licenced to you for your period of usage. Both the kit and the licence for that are much more expensive than these systems - 2.4Hz is licence free over almost the entire planet. Don't risk using licence dependent kit without the licence - all your camera kit, not just the audio stuff, could be confiscated if caught.
Hey, so I've a cheap lav mic and looking to buy hollyland or dji, but I've heard that people post process their audio. If I have to post process such an expensive mic, is there really a benefit of it ?
First, thank you for this review! Perhaps I overlooked it, but in the audio comparison with the Rode at 8:19, you give the recording parameters for the MAX as full gain (10), internal camera gain as 1, and then you reveal the internal recording volume for the unit. However, did you explain the settings for the Rode? What was the gain set to on the device/in the camera? Was the sound we heard from the Rode what the camera picked up or the internal recording? You mention "internal mic" but did you mean internal recording or just using the built-in mic? Sorry for all the questions, but in a side-by-side knowing how the gain was rated and where the sound for the Rode was recorded would be really helpful! Thanks
Hi! Thanks! Rode wireless go (first generation) doesn’t have an internal recording. It was at max gain on Rode and 3-4 gain in-camera. “Internal mic” means that it was the built-in mic of the transmitter.
When you’re in the room with the white wall background, I hear a constant high pitch noise. It’s not loud, but I can hear it being a constant pitch. Was there something in that room making the noise? Or, was that the mic’s internal self noise? Thanks!
So what would you rate the DJI vs this one? Or on a 1-10 scale what would you rate each separately. At very least in terms of performance. I’m less concerned about the packaging/case etc
Just fyi, dji mic lets you lock the record button just in case you bump it by accident it won’t stop, the hollyland lark max doesn’t have an option to do that. That’s the only downside i found about this mic.
if 2 people wear these and stand close together, would there be an echo because both mics pick up the opposite persons audio? Does it filter that out? I am thinking about using this for a wedding, have you tested that?
no dji mic killer because has to use a cable instead of an adapter when connecting to iphone. I think hollyland designed this mic mainly for cam use and not for phones.
Hollyland has TERRIBLE service here in Turkey. I've sent in my Lark150 multiple times for a repair (the case battery drains by itself in couple of days) and even though the company (OKTOSTORE) responsible for the repair said they fixed it, they sent back the mics without ever fixing the problem. #NeverAgain
If you use a paper clip and press the reset button, it will charge again. It’s an annoying problem that after a few days you have to reset it - but at least it will start charging after you do that. It’s a tiny hole on the back of the charging case.
I got it a week ago, and I will be returning it for one main issue. If I wanted to change input mic levels, I have to click at least 6 clicks. unlick the dji
1. Nobody Talking About Lavaliere And The Best Model Lavalier To Use With This Mics. 2. Nobody Talking About To Record Directly To a PC Windows an Mac By The USB Port, Using a Daw Like Studio One Or Other One. If You Want To Be Different You Need To Do Different Things Obviously.
DJI Mic Killer? DJI Mic are dead anyway. They often lose connection whenever one uses a lav mic (rotating the plugged cable 5° will stop all signals!) and the thing cant even properly be conneccted to the camera. DJI Mic is THE biggest scam in DJIs history…
I agree with this, the DJI mics are a nightmare and many units, including mine, are defective causing audio synch issues and random popping noises making the audio unusable
@@Angelux31 i have used them on different porfessional shoots. I had 2 (!) critical losses of audio in 3 Projects. 2!!! They have a terrible LAV-Mic connector thats the absolute devil. It will show regular recording when you set it up and then randomly stop working. It tool me an entire day to find out, that this is bec. the 3.5mm jack connector is absolute shite. It will disable and block any signal when after plugging in is rotated more then 3-5°. And as you might imagine, that happens all the time. You cant even solve it by taping the goshdarn thing together, as its not a problem of the thing sloding out but just the slightest rotation. And YES, i tested this with more then 4 different LAV-mices and other 3.5mm jack imputs. Unless one uses these things purely on their own (without lav mic or any other 3.5mm input), one is asking for desaster when using these. I LOVE DJI for their Mavic drones, but these mics are an abomination. These devices are MADE for LAV-mics, yet they never work with any reliability.
@@TheElliotEquation oh, and not to mention they are the only wireless mics on the market that are extremely sensitive for not perfectly shielded lavmics too. So if they dont completely mute their input randomly, then they will just put a huge buzzing sound on almost half the available LAV-microphones out there on the market. (And since these issues pertain the mic input, the affect both internal and wireless Audio signals). These things are an absolute failure.
We want a wireless microphone kit that doubles as a field recorder with 32 bit float with 4 recivers.
Oh man, I think it won’t be coming very soon 😅
@@NOlimitsON four receivers too much interference you think?
Deity has a new wireless with 32 bit float backup coming. But not 4 receivers just singles.
Not a 4 peice reciever kit, but the new Theos system from Diety comes damn close to that. That's what I'm upgrading my wireless kit to as soon as they are available. Quite a bit more expensive compared to these or the DJI mic, but you get the full 32bit float, and they can TC sync with their generator :)
@@JustWhatINeed83 They have 2 kits coming, the Theos is the standard two piece kit, and the other one is a crazy hybrid stereo recorder, can't remember the name, but it's the single option.
Hi folks, just had an idea. Two transmitters means we could have one on front and one on back of our talent. Much less risk of losing audio direct into the camera plus we get two back up recordings on the transmitters. Probably not needed indoors or in studio but for wide roaming talent outside it might be very helpful.
Thanks for the detailed review. I had hoped to see a head to head v the DJI, given the title. .
One thing things I think you should have covered is more is on phone compatibility.. I use the DJI wireless on my android device. Its the only one I've found that allows me to record stereo on the phone. I haven't found a third party cable that allows this and I've purchased a half dozen, including the Synco -- two of them.
Thanks for the review. I also saw the M2 video. Very good job.
Thanks mate) stay tuned)
@@NOlimitsON if you have anything sitting on the shelf.. send it over. I subscribed
So, I bought these and 1 minute later I found a bug. When using a transmitter/mic only in standalone with no receiver, the ENC does not engage. I wrote to Hollyland and after multiple testing and them asking me to document with video, they came to the evidence that some batches have this problem.
So they told me to return it and wait for an update or firmware later someday.
I'm in Canada and we probably have the bugged ones :) Yes I tried several at different stores, all do the same.
Things happen… good that Hollyland recognizes the problem and tries to fix it
Thank you.. I just purchased one!**** Great review!
Thank you) stay tuned)
Just picked this kit up, a firmware update put a rec lock option on the receiver
Good review but what I have not seen from any reviewer do yet is using both mics to record a talk. Since the mics seem to pick up a lot of omnidirectional sound, I wonder if this could lead to phasing issues, when both mics pick up both persons.
Thanks a lot) I’ll make such test in my review of Rode wireless Pro vs DJI mic - stay tuned)
Спасибо за review. Привет из Сан Диего. I think I will get it, sound pretty good.
Спасибо) и тебе привет)
Me again! In general 2,4 GHz systems will perform better when used near radio reflective surfaces. In that respect a wooded area may well be better than an open plain. Brick walls will also be somewhat reflective. Open plan offices are pretty friendly as well. Large sections of metal though - eg shipping containers - are likely to create radio shadows. These 'wifi' systems all monitor the in band channels and endeavour to skip to the cleanest one in an undetectable manner. For absolute peace of mind you need an alternative frequency licenced to you for your period of usage. Both the kit and the licence for that are much more expensive than these systems - 2.4Hz is licence free over almost the entire planet. Don't risk using licence dependent kit without the licence - all your camera kit, not just the audio stuff, could be confiscated if caught.
Does the noise cancellation still work w lav mic plugged in? I would need one w internal recording not connecting to phone or camera.
Yes
Hey, so I've a cheap lav mic and looking to buy hollyland or dji, but I've heard that people post process their audio. If I have to post process such an expensive mic, is there really a benefit of it ?
In my opinion out of the box Hollyland sounds better)
Thank you for your video it was helpful.
Thanks! Stay tuned 😉
First, thank you for this review! Perhaps I overlooked it, but in the audio comparison with the Rode at 8:19, you give the recording parameters for the MAX as full gain (10), internal camera gain as 1, and then you reveal the internal recording volume for the unit. However, did you explain the settings for the Rode? What was the gain set to on the device/in the camera? Was the sound we heard from the Rode what the camera picked up or the internal recording? You mention "internal mic" but did you mean internal recording or just using the built-in mic? Sorry for all the questions, but in a side-by-side knowing how the gain was rated and where the sound for the Rode was recorded would be really helpful! Thanks
Hi! Thanks! Rode wireless go (first generation) doesn’t have an internal recording. It was at max gain on Rode and 3-4 gain in-camera. “Internal mic” means that it was the built-in mic of the transmitter.
@@NOlimitsON Ahhhh, makes more sense. Ok. I only have the WGOII so I wasn't aware of the internal recording. Thanks for the additional data though!
When you’re in the room with the white wall background, I hear a constant high pitch noise. It’s not loud, but I can hear it being a constant pitch. Was there something in that room making the noise? Or, was that the mic’s internal self noise? Thanks!
I guess there could be some works outside the building… it’s not a self noise
So what would you rate the DJI vs this one? Or on a 1-10 scale what would you rate each separately. At very least in terms of performance. I’m less concerned about the packaging/case etc
I’d give in total 7 out of 10 to DJI and 8 out of 10 to Hollyland
@@NOlimitsON thank you very much
Just fyi, dji mic lets you lock the record button just in case you bump it by accident it won’t stop, the hollyland lark max doesn’t have an option to do that. That’s the only downside i found about this mic.
I’d give in total9 out of 10 to DJI and 7 out of 10 to Hollyland
Great review video. Thank you. Where are you located?
Thanks mate) stay tuned! I’m in Moscow)
I was wondering what kind of magician I will have to be to hide this receiver behind the insta360 one r 360 lens haahah thx for the review!
Welcome mate) stay tuned)
if 2 people wear these and stand close together, would there be an echo because both mics pick up the opposite persons audio? Does it filter that out? I am thinking about using this for a wedding, have you tested that?
No echo, but the mics will pick up each other
@@NOlimitsON ordered! Thank you for the video.
Do these have enough output volume to even use as a ceremoney lav going into a speaker?
@@FlatEarthSovereign Why not?
Great Video
Thank you)
The internal audio recording noise sounds awful, they should fix it cause the backup is important
i dont get the point why the internal is so quiet. what do you mean with "you can raise the gain with the limiter"? such a great review anyway
no dji mic killer because has to use a cable instead of an adapter when connecting to iphone. I think hollyland designed this mic mainly for cam use and not for phones.
Did I hear correctly that 44khz and not 48khz?
It’s 48
great video
Thanks) stay tuned!
Hollyland has TERRIBLE service here in Turkey.
I've sent in my Lark150 multiple times for a repair (the case battery drains by itself in couple of days) and even though the company (OKTOSTORE) responsible for the repair said they fixed it, they sent back the mics without ever fixing the problem.
#NeverAgain
Sad to hear that
If you use a paper clip and press the reset button, it will charge again. It’s an annoying problem that after a few days you have to reset it - but at least it will start charging after you do that. It’s a tiny hole on the back of the charging case.
Seems the noise on the Lark is pretty high vs the Rode. Or am I wrong ?
More or less the same, both need post processing
@@NOlimitsONdid you use post editing for this video?
I got it a week ago, and I will be returning it for one main issue. If I wanted to change input mic levels, I have to click at least 6 clicks. unlick the dji
Really?) you’re returning those for “that” reason 😅?
Anyone tested with sennheiser lavalier, like mke40 or mke2?
Sennheiser is pretty hard to find anywhere and the almost never send their stuff to reviewers… so it’s quiet a challenge
Hey! did you find out anything about using the LARK MAX with a Sennheiser or other brand/model lavaliere? Did it work fine?
the Dji sounds way better to me . way clearer
I don’t think so, have you listened to them side-by-side?
Can i use it to talk thru a speaker?
sure
Hollyland had the Lark 150 before this.
Are you sure 44Khz and not 48Khz?
if the answer is YES then this is VARY BAD!
at 04:50
It’s 48khz
great man
Thanks) stay tuned)
1. Nobody Talking About Lavaliere And The Best Model Lavalier To Use With This Mics.
2. Nobody Talking About To Record Directly To a PC Windows an Mac By The USB Port, Using a Daw Like Studio One Or Other One.
If You Want To Be Different You Need To Do Different Things Obviously.
Hey! did you find out anything about using the LARK MAX with external lavaliere? which brand/model works better?
i just wish they made the receiver upright and not that wide. the dji receiver is already wide, and this look even wider
It doesn’t bother me at all to be honest)) if it works fine - I’m okay with that)
he is making so confusion between other brand, definitely mess things in this video
???
DJI Mic Killer? DJI Mic are dead anyway. They often lose connection whenever one uses a lav mic (rotating the plugged cable 5° will stop all signals!) and the thing cant even properly be conneccted to the camera. DJI Mic is THE biggest scam in DJIs history…
Strong statement 😅
Not true, DJI Mic are the best of the wireless on the go microphones in the market
I agree with this, the DJI mics are a nightmare and many units, including mine, are defective causing audio synch issues and random popping noises making the audio unusable
@@Angelux31 i have used them on different porfessional shoots. I had 2 (!) critical losses of audio in 3 Projects. 2!!! They have a terrible LAV-Mic connector thats the absolute devil. It will show regular recording when you set it up and then randomly stop working. It tool me an entire day to find out, that this is bec. the 3.5mm jack connector is absolute shite. It will disable and block any signal when after plugging in is rotated more then 3-5°. And as you might imagine, that happens all the time. You cant even solve it by taping the goshdarn thing together, as its not a problem of the thing sloding out but just the slightest rotation. And YES, i tested this with more then 4 different LAV-mices and other 3.5mm jack imputs.
Unless one uses these things purely on their own (without lav mic or any other 3.5mm input), one is asking for desaster when using these. I LOVE DJI for their Mavic drones, but these mics are an abomination. These devices are MADE for LAV-mics, yet they never work with any reliability.
@@TheElliotEquation oh, and not to mention they are the only wireless mics on the market that are extremely sensitive for not perfectly shielded lavmics too. So if they dont completely mute their input randomly, then they will just put a huge buzzing sound on almost half the available LAV-microphones out there on the market. (And since these issues pertain the mic input, the affect both internal and wireless Audio signals). These things are an absolute failure.
That's 5* review..
Thanks mate)
Oh no... not another killer.