this is why i hate DIY synths 😅 $60 Drone Synth & MS-20 filter REVIEW

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2023
  • Today we are checking out a tiny analog filter based on the MS-20 filter and a 4 oscillator drone synthesizer. They are only around 60 bucks but are they worth getting? Disclosure: Gear provided by the manufacturer.
    You can check out Krischer Synthesizers here. They also sell assembled synths now: / krischer_analogsynthes... (not affiliated, I don't get anything if you buy something from them)
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  • @BoBeats
    @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

    You can check out Krischer here instagram.com/krischer_analogsynthesizers/ (not affiliated) or check out other mini synths below! If you use my affiliate links you support the channel at no cost to you:
    $50 Korg Monotron DUO synth
    EU: thmn.to/thoprod/273948?offid=1&affid=623
    US: imp.i114863.net/0Je77P
    $50 Korg Monotron Delay
    EU: thmn.to/thoprod/273950?offid=1&affid=623
    US: imp.i114863.net/gbNGvX
    $150 Korg Volca
    EU: www.thomann.de/intl/search_dir.html?sw=Korg%20Volca&offid=1&affid=623
    US: imp.i114863.net/2rEbrA
    $150 Korg NTS-1 synth/fx
    EU: thmn.to/thoprod/473592?offid=1&affid=623
    US: imp.i114863.net/2OR10
    $110 BASTL synths, drum machine & mixer
    EU: bastl-instruments.com
    US: bit.ly/BASTLxPC
    $50 Rakits Synthesizers
    rakits.co.uk

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 8 месяцев назад

      How was the first year's potato crop from your new garden?

  • @JamesRamboPearce
    @JamesRamboPearce 8 месяцев назад +10

    Goes to show how important filters are when looking at synths!

  • @BoBeats
    @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +13

    Let me know about other small indie companies whos gear I should check out!!

    • @remonkoops4235
      @remonkoops4235 8 месяцев назад +1

      Error Instruments perhaps? Only heard About them recently, they make odball stuff but maybe you already know them…….

    • @rustyxof
      @rustyxof 8 месяцев назад +3

      Bastl ARP and Drum. It would be nice to see someone talk about making a track with these and not just the idea of sampling them. Unless that’s all they are good for?

    • @rustyxof
      @rustyxof 8 месяцев назад

      The le strum grand looks really neat also. It’s also semi diy ppl have built omnichord type instruments. It’s kind of a Lofi omnichord

    • @stresseater2201
      @stresseater2201 8 месяцев назад

      Digdugdiy makes some awesome fx pedals, midi controllers, drone synths etc. All prebuilt for you!

    • @GrizGriztofferson
      @GrizGriztofferson 8 месяцев назад +1

      Herzlich Labs

  • @cowmilkbiz
    @cowmilkbiz 8 месяцев назад +9

    Love checking out smaller synths/brands!

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +1

      Me too! If you have suggestions of some brand/thing to check out let me know

  • @localhost4460
    @localhost4460 8 месяцев назад +8

    The stickers are charming but it's also worth noting that some acetone based nail polish remover will make quick work of CA glue.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

      Learning something new every day!!

    • @boriscat1999
      @boriscat1999 2 месяца назад

      @@BoBeatsyou have to screw up a bunch of kits before you learn how to fix the mistakes. Learning painting is the same way.

  • @LeslieJones_RSTRCTD
    @LeslieJones_RSTRCTD 8 месяцев назад +2

    Micro filter seems like a nice thing to try to add to a Pocket Operator Setup.
    Adding it to my Christmas presents list! 🎉

  • @eyeball226
    @eyeball226 3 месяца назад

    The LED being lit when the filter is active and not bypassed is exactly how guitar pedals behave.

  • @wrenchposting9097
    @wrenchposting9097 8 месяцев назад +3

    diy stuff is great. soldering is a lot easier with a quality soldering station and good copper tips! you might like it after all

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is great! I'm very interested inweird little dealies like this.

  • @joshstarr6400
    @joshstarr6400 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'm really curious what you'd think of the Woovebox. Reactions to it so far seem all over the place, so I'd love to hear your input on it!

  • @suga4all
    @suga4all 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nice gadgets! Looks like a Lego brick and a Eurorack module had a baby! 😂

  • @BillyHopscotch
    @BillyHopscotch 5 месяцев назад

    I just got the trio of pre-soldered kits, and my Microquad has a problem with two of the oscillators not working. I noticed the soldering wasn't very well done, so you may want to do it yourself if it's in your skillset.

  • @chriswalton720
    @chriswalton720 8 месяцев назад

    4:35 should be noted that the outboard filter will be paraphonic if you’re playing more than one note, i.e. filter will retrigger with each Note On. In other words, Korg Poly 800 or Casio HT 700 mode.

  • @mobiledaw1436
    @mobiledaw1436 8 месяцев назад +1

    I enjoyed assembling the korg micro synth but was disappointed how little there was to do assembling their nu-tekt power tube reactor and harmonic distortion, you only have to push the knobs in and attach the backplate.

  • @oldunclemick
    @oldunclemick 8 месяцев назад

    Good video 👍. I'm guessing there's no CV inputs on the filter or MIDI to enable key tracking? That would make it a great paraphonic addition to any digital synth lacking a filter e.g. a DX7.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +1

      Correct. They tho have other models now so im not 100% if theres one with more options

  • @asleep909
    @asleep909 8 месяцев назад

    Darn you Bo! Now I have to pull out my soldering iron!!!!

  • @ajplays-gamesandmusic4568
    @ajplays-gamesandmusic4568 8 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder how difficult it would be to take that MS-20 filter kit... and to make something like a Wah-Wah pedal out of it.
    (replace the 3.5 inch jacks with quarter inch, find an expression pedal that outputs CV, so you can open/close the filter with your foot).

    • @BigBadWolf..............
      @BigBadWolf.............. 8 месяцев назад

      Well I did one where I converted a Dunlop cry baby wall to a passive low pass filter. My friend uses it on his theremin and it makes his theremin a little bit more bearable. I've been thinking about doing one myself. The pedal will control the cut off and then there would be two holes one for resonance and one for volume.

    • @goonfish
      @goonfish 8 месяцев назад

      Expression Pedals are already CV!

  • @SlaserX
    @SlaserX 8 месяцев назад

    I love cheap simple gear like this, but why for the love of all that is good, is everything mini jack?

  • @daneguitarist1
    @daneguitarist1 8 месяцев назад

    Hey
    I have the krischer filter
    Mine also didnt work, I looked at the back and just made sure every solder joint was perfect and it started to work no problem
    But I thought mine was broke as well haha

  • @jasonmoss4151
    @jasonmoss4151 8 месяцев назад +3

    Is this the beginning of micro modular?

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

      I remember the Minijams… they were a great concept

  • @mikethemachian6542
    @mikethemachian6542 8 месяцев назад +1

    I've always been interested in their stuff. Thanks for being honest about it. I still think I will take the plunge at some point

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

      I think definitely the filter could be worth it!

    • @mikethemachian6542
      @mikethemachian6542 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@BoBeats yes! But oddly i saw the synth as a meditative thing for me to do to unwind. I think it has more value for that purpose for someone like me who isn’t a professional musician and just needs something to lose themselves in for a bit

  • @willfowles3654
    @willfowles3654 8 месяцев назад

    As a guitarist who started in synths and rack effects later it took me a while to get used to the whole light on means effect is off thing.

  • @rui5421
    @rui5421 8 месяцев назад +1

    the stickers make it for me.

  • @pugnation
    @pugnation 8 месяцев назад +1

    DIY is not for me either, but I don't mind the video, being short and sweet.
    I would wish for a review of the Micro Monster 2 from Audiothingies, a small producer in France. 🙂

  • @devids51
    @devids51 8 месяцев назад

    division department 01/iv
    You need to get your hands on this

  • @PostingCringeOnMain
    @PostingCringeOnMain 8 месяцев назад

    Hrmmm... i like it. Seems like a nice step up (sideways?) from the korg monotrons - I got the delay one, but it has no resonance and I have a couple of synths/sound modules that I'd love to run through an external filter (looking at you, Streichfett...). I see a lot of potential in the new microsynth products from companies like Bastl and SOMA, especially if you throw in that Volca and Pocket Operator that's been gathering dust in a cupboard. You could get something approaching modular without getting sucked all the way down the euro rack rabbit hole... just need a teeny tiny little little mixer.... NO TEENAGE ENGINEERING! NOT ONE THAT COSTS $1,000!!!

  • @cesarsjogren
    @cesarsjogren 8 месяцев назад

    Nice filter for the drumbrute impact maybe🤔

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

      thats not a bad idea!

  • @MattGreerMusic
    @MattGreerMusic 8 месяцев назад

    The way I look at it is this. I can either spend time doing DIY or I can spend time making music. Usually I am going to spend my time doing music.

  • @gaborb6577
    @gaborb6577 8 месяцев назад +1

    🎉

  • @gaetan4164
    @gaetan4164 8 месяцев назад

    "and now let's plug those little toys into a pedal 4 times their combined price". Seriously though the filter is pretty cool. Wish they'd went with a more convenient power supply option though (USB-C or 9V at least)

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

      oh you should have seen the outtakes, i ran it thru an analog heat, then then four chase bliss pedals and went ”omfg sounds amazing”
      Ok joking aside, it was just a way to make that video segment a little less dry (pun intended)

  • @GuySchmidtOfficial
    @GuySchmidtOfficial 8 месяцев назад +1

    😍😍

  • @markelap9410
    @markelap9410 8 месяцев назад +1

    grabe ganda naman! and cute!

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 8 месяцев назад

    Hey Bo, don't forget to mark the video as containing a paid promotion. Donations / in-kind is considered compensation.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thats a tricky one Pete. I reserve the use of that functions to actual paid collaborations. It is also how a majority of tech channels seem to be using it. In the PC space you don’t see reviewers mark their videos paid promotions just because they were sent a review unit. And the rationale seems to be: there is no control and no payment. The messaging is entirely their own. This can be contrasted against an actual AD where the point of the disclosure is to make sure people understand that the message is not just from the youtuber, but partly from the brand that is paying. I’ve thought a lot about this and I havn’t come up with a perfect solution, I don’t think anyone has really. It is a grey area, and I am sure practises will envolve and change. If you have suggestions as a long term viewer I am always open to them.

    • @Psychlist1972
      @Psychlist1972 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@BoBeats I agree it's a challenging one and can also be more strict in countries in the EU. I also know that many channels don't follow the rules at all. There's also government guidance above and beyond RUclips's. In the US, it's recommended you clearly state it at the top of the description, in the video, and then you clearly state that you receive free product in the audio. Sometimes it seems a bit much.
      In Astrophotography, reviewers were getting $4000 telescopes for "long term loan" or for a huge discount, or even completely free. They weren't being paid in cash for the review, and they would usually say the company has no say over what they say (but folks like to get free stuff, so will say nicer things even when trying to be honest), but that counts as compensation and is a commercial relationship, and must be clearly disclosed. I don't know where to draw the line between a $60 DIY kit filter and something like that.
      I remember back when the first ik UNO synth came out, and all the reviewers had free products, but it wasn't properly disclosed. Many of those reviewers, some of whom I really like, also left out the obvious flaws in their reviews because, again, free stuff affects your mind a bit, and we're all human. They even said in the comments afterwards that they left out the parts they didn't like.
      (If you have to give it back shortly afterwards, then it's different, because there's no compensation.)
      RUclips has this to say:
      What's a paid product placement?
      Videos created for a company or business in exchange for money, free products, or free services. Videos where that company or business's brand, message, or product is included directly in the content.
      Anyway, I like learning about new boutique products, so I wouldn't want to discourage this kind of video, especially from credible folks like you. But it becomes a slippery slope.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for your reflection on this. I try to be clear that i often get items ”for free”. I use ”marks” because generally the value of the product is far below the value of the work I provide. So on a philosophical level I ask myself who is paying who? For this video example with the work put into the vid, the cost of shipping stuff, the long time I had to invest, I feel absolutely that the kit isn’t remotely any sort of payment. It is a pre-requisite for making the video and compared to the value of my work its insignificant.
      But ultimately it absolutely is as you say and I always work hard covering gear fairly and and in a balanced way, regardless of how we label it. Some of my paid for collaborations are also my absolute best work (every Roland vid Ive made for example). But thank you for the reminder and its definitely something I am reflecting on often.

    • @oldunclemick
      @oldunclemick 8 месяцев назад

      Another factor is that reviewers can get hit with import duties on valuable "free" stuff. I don't know if there's even a procedure for getting a refund from the customs folks if the product is sent back to the manufacturer (and who pays _that_ postage?).

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +1

      That is indeed a factor. The reality is that receiving an item free of charge is not the same as "getting it for free". It just means that I get it for less than an average consumer. Receiving any item is associated with costs for me, thats why I don't just say yes to anything. There's no free lunch really. It is just that I pay for it in a very different way than a consumer does. That is not to say that you shouldn't be critical as a viewer. Always take what reviewers do and say with a grain of salt and also check multiple sources before making big purchasing decisions.

  • @johnwalter6410
    @johnwalter6410 2 месяца назад

    i have the MS420 DIY filter, It sounds like dog shit,. unusable.

  • @PeterKoperdan
    @PeterKoperdan 8 месяцев назад

    Is there any particular reason that you, as a musician, produce videos with such a high amount of noise? Seems like such a basic thing to get right in 2023...

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад

      well, its mostly because my lav mic's are pretty noisy and I havn't found a good de-noiser that works in a stable way with Final Cut Pro (the video editor I use)

    • @PeterKoperdan
      @PeterKoperdan 8 месяцев назад

      @@BoBeats Thanks for the answer ;-)

  • @rockdog132
    @rockdog132 8 месяцев назад +1

    love it when influencers get free stuff and then just hoard it in a box with no plans to learn how to actually assemble it. just pure greed and laziness

    • @ambiguationdotnet
      @ambiguationdotnet 8 месяцев назад

      and then pronounce the supplier's name incorrectly. that's rudeness to go with the laziness and greed. smh.

    • @BoBeats
      @BoBeats  8 месяцев назад +9

      like i said in the video, it was a bit of a mess because I wasn’t made aware (before it shipped) you needed soldering skills to put it together and I was in the middle of moving into a new house when this all happened. So not an ideal time to buy soldering equipment, learn how to solder, assemble it, test it, make a video, publish it. And all without any sort of monetary compensation. The fact that I have the freedom to choose which projects I take on should be important to you guys, but instead you view it as laziness and greed…. I mean, I am lazy and I really struggly with DIY. But man, calling it greed when I went out of my way to support an indie manufacturer… What a world we live in.
      Oh and an update: Krischer let me know they arn’t bothered by the mispronounciation one bit. Next vid I feature them I will make sure to say it in french (where he is from) and in german (its a german name) but also with an US accent to make sure I don’t offend americans

    • @krazywabbit
      @krazywabbit 8 месяцев назад +7

      Love when commenters who don’t get anything, hoard their keystrokes into a comment box with no plans how to learn or do anything. Just pure hate and laziness.

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 8 месяцев назад

      ​@BoBeats no Punjabi version? Greed and laziness, I tell yah.