Oooh that’s really nice how you can use different midi notes for different drum sounds from the same track! Combining the Syntakt and Blackbox, they seem to cover each others weaknesses super well. Great demonstration!
Thanks! Helpful indeed to find a video on such a specific topic. I've been contemplating getting a Syntakt to use with the Blackbox. I'm not gonna lie: hiccup free pgm change would be really sweet. Still pretty useful and in terms of just getting a wide sound palette with a good sequencer I'm sure they complement each other well.
Great, I never considered doing that by locking PC... I have my Blackbox in the cue to C/D inputs “loop” on my Octatrack, but I’m really underusing it! This opens things up alot, thanks! To avoid the PC lag there has to be a way to use the parameter lock and First/Not First functions of the Elektron sequencer... I have to try that later... If this works like I imagine it might, then my Digitakt might be on the way out...
Sweet! Yeah I haven't tried combining it with the First / Not First conditionals... from what I have tried, it hasn't been a problem to send the same PC message over and over on each pattern playthrough, but I imagine some synths might take issue with that. One issue with First / Not First though, I think you have to actually fully stop the pattern and press play again to get them to trigger. So if you just pause the pattern, they don't trigger...IIRC.
@@minimal.camera Well... here at work they frown upon jam sessions during the work-day, but I can't wait to try it out later... I don't remember doing a pause with the first/not first set up, but that's another thing I'll have to check out... The Black box was my first new sampler after the ones I had in the 90's, Emus and Yamahas with a MIDI pedal keyboard my later with guitar synths (the keyboardist had Akais), and it really should be my only sampler... but I know that won't ever happen! I'll let you know how the experiment goes...
Nice coverage of the potential of this combo. What are the orange MIDI DIN to TRS converters that you have plugged into the Syntakt? These look very handy for minimising cabling bulk.
How does the bb responded to the Dn in song mode? I use dn as my brain and would like vocal samples and such coming from the bb but wonder if it responds well to song mode
That's would be a great setup! You would want to use song mode on the Digitone, and just ignore the seq/song mode on the Blackbox. Just let the Blackbox be a 'sample player' in this setup, and use the Digitone MIDI tracks to trigger the samples. This way you are only dealing with one sequencer, and the timing will be tight. You'll also be able to use all the Elektron sequencer tricks if you want to. If the vocal samples are long, you can also use the Blackbox Slicer mode with them, and then sequence individual slices, as they are automatically mapped out across the standard midi notes (starting at C2 I think). Good way to get that stutter effect on the vocals if you like that. I'm sure it is possible to use song mode on both the elektron and blackbox simultaneously, but that seems like a lot of unnecessary complexity to me, especially when you've got spare MIDI tracks on the Digitone ready to use.
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Oooh that’s really nice how you can use different midi notes for different drum sounds from the same track! Combining the Syntakt and Blackbox, they seem to cover each others weaknesses super well. Great demonstration!
Thanks! Helpful indeed to find a video on such a specific topic. I've been contemplating getting a Syntakt to use with the Blackbox. I'm not gonna lie: hiccup free pgm change would be really sweet. Still pretty useful and in terms of just getting a wide sound palette with a good sequencer I'm sure they complement each other well.
I didn't know Blackbox would respond to program changes. Gotta try this with my Digitone!
Great, I never considered doing that by locking PC... I have my Blackbox in the cue to C/D inputs “loop” on my Octatrack, but I’m really underusing it! This opens things up alot, thanks! To avoid the PC lag there has to be a way to use the parameter lock and First/Not First functions of the Elektron sequencer... I have to try that later... If this works like I imagine it might, then my Digitakt might be on the way out...
Sweet! Yeah I haven't tried combining it with the First / Not First conditionals... from what I have tried, it hasn't been a problem to send the same PC message over and over on each pattern playthrough, but I imagine some synths might take issue with that. One issue with First / Not First though, I think you have to actually fully stop the pattern and press play again to get them to trigger. So if you just pause the pattern, they don't trigger...IIRC.
@@minimal.camera Well... here at work they frown upon jam sessions during the work-day, but I can't wait to try it out later... I don't remember doing a pause with the first/not first set up, but that's another thing I'll have to check out... The Black box was my first new sampler after the ones I had in the 90's, Emus and Yamahas with a MIDI pedal keyboard my later with guitar synths (the keyboardist had Akais), and it really should be my only sampler... but I know that won't ever happen! I'll let you know how the experiment goes...
Nice coverage of the potential of this combo. What are the orange MIDI DIN to TRS converters that you have plugged into the Syntakt? These look very handy for minimising cabling bulk.
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How does the bb responded to the Dn in song mode? I use dn as my brain and would like vocal samples and such coming from the bb but wonder if it responds well to song mode
That's would be a great setup! You would want to use song mode on the Digitone, and just ignore the seq/song mode on the Blackbox. Just let the Blackbox be a 'sample player' in this setup, and use the Digitone MIDI tracks to trigger the samples. This way you are only dealing with one sequencer, and the timing will be tight. You'll also be able to use all the Elektron sequencer tricks if you want to. If the vocal samples are long, you can also use the Blackbox Slicer mode with them, and then sequence individual slices, as they are automatically mapped out across the standard midi notes (starting at C2 I think). Good way to get that stutter effect on the vocals if you like that.
I'm sure it is possible to use song mode on both the elektron and blackbox simultaneously, but that seems like a lot of unnecessary complexity to me, especially when you've got spare MIDI tracks on the Digitone ready to use.