Ford F150 leaking coolant at turbo? Everything You Need To Know
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Ford f150 leaking coolant at turbo? In this video I cover everything you need to know about the dreaded coolant leak from the turbos on Ford F150's.
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You can do the lines and fittings without pulling the cab in about 3 hours. Just drop the catalytic converters and you have all the space you need to get the upper fittings on the back of the heads. If you loosen the three exhaust studs on both turbos it gives you enough clearance to slide the line out, between the turbo ajd engine block.
@houston5508 Remember, you work at a dealer that pays 7h to do these, I pay 11
@@WontreplyeverdontbotherI work in a shop too. We wouldn’t be pulling that cab.
Bingo. Ive done it as well. Swear a bit but the cab stays put
Why is the dealership telling me atleast 7hrs to do the job....
@@danmueller1467 because it's a dealership, find a reputable independent shop that had real mechanics
I just wrapped up this entire repair myself.
All lines, all fittings, new manifolds and all gaskets. 4 days to do it. Didn’t get to stay 100% on it each day. Would’ve been 3 if I could stay on it.
Oil change and AC recharge was in morning.
I actually had to look at a leak on the back of the head. I used my borescope instead of a mirror and it made it alot easier to get back behind the engine and see the actual fitting up close. I chose to use my borescope alot more than a mirror most the time.
Mason, congratulations! You really know your business. Keep on with the good work. I’m a tech as well. I’ve been in the business since 1971.😊
@flyingwrenches13 - Mason, that’s 👆 a HUGE compliment, brother.
I’m just a shade tree guy that happened to buy a new 3.5 EB in ‘17. Love your content.
@@jloppyhotmail
I’m sorry you were duped like the rest of the owners of the eco puke motors!!!
I owned a few 4 cylinder engine cars and I had friends who owned 6 cylinder pickup trucks, that being said, I decided long ago that I’d never own another vehicle with less than 8 cylinders unless that was a diesel engine vehicle!!!
If you’re gonna build a motor that you plan to put a supercharger or turbocharger on, the first thing you *MUST DO* is build the bottom end to support the extra horsepower and torque you’re going to be pushing out of the motor!!!
Not one engine manufacturer is building mass produced motors that have the extra engineering required to support having two turbos added to their engines!!!
Planned Obsolescence!!!
Flying wrench be like “sir ur air filter will be $1500. Customer “why so much?” Fly thing wrench “gotta pull the cab for more access” 😂😂😂
Hey as a guy who paid to have all of that work done I’m here to tell you it’s time and money in your pocket to lift the cab because it takes much longer if you don’t
Especially for the engine air filter, don't even get me started about the cabin filter 😂
Dang!! You are amazing dude. Thanks for this video. I've heard ABSOLUTE HORROR stories about that filter at 6:00 and dealers replacing the turbos, but not the filters. Then their brand new turbo fails.
I’m bringing my baby to you on Monday 2/15/2024 for multiple leaks (Vacuum pump, valve covers, spark plug tube seals and turbo coolant line leaks)
It’s a 2013 F-150 4x4 3.5L with just over 200k on it. I bought this truck brand new so I know it’s history and since I’ve been methodical about fluid maintenance I’m thinking the drivetrain is good and hoping to get another 200k after your finished.
I’m not having any manifold issues but I’m afraid it’s just around the corner, so I’d like those checked out too.
Only mod ever done to the truck was a weep pole drilled in the intercooler @~100k. It’s got leveling struts in the front with 35’s; other than that it’s 100% stock no tunes or aftermarket add-ons.
P.S.
I’ve always done all my own maintenance and repairs but this job is just too much for me at my age I can’t do it in my driveway, so I’m trusting you. I like your videos so much, I’m bringing my truck from New Orleans just so “you” can work on it.
How'd it go? What was the cost 😅? I'm planning the same
@@skullhart Unfortunately, not as good as I’d hoped. During the repair, I was told by my service advisor (also service manager) that the Ford OEM valve covers were on back order, so it was recommended to use the all-aluminum valve covers made by MitZone, as they were readily available. After the MitZone covers were installed, I picked up the truck and drove it home (3 hours from Alabama to Louisiana)
These covers were immediately identified as faulty after my 3-hour drive home. When I got home and out the truck, I could smell a faint burning oil smell, I lifted the hood and could see oil spraying out of the VVT solenoid pockets in the new Valve covers. I immediately contacted Johnson Ford and spoke to my service advisor via video-call so he could see the leaks himself. He conferenced in a tech at the shop that acknowledged the MitZone covers were faulty and needed to be replaced. My service advisor advised me he’d order the Ford OEM parts and contact me once the part was in so they could replace, he advised me the truck was safe to drive until then, so I agreed to drive the truck back to Alabama for the repair, which we agreed we’d schedule early one morning so the guys could get on it and have me back on the road home by lunchtime.
Now flash forward 2-3 weeks, the OEM covers hadn’t arrived yet and I was pulling my boat (5-6k pounds) and heard and felt a loud pop and noticed lots of smoke coming from the exhaust, the large wrench appeared on the dash and the truck went into limp mode. After shutting it off and finally getting the truck out of imp mode, I drove to the nearest auto repair shop and had them run the DTC’s and was told truck was showing (code P0022 Bank 2 camshaft positioning timing was retarded beyond limits for an extended period of time) I then immediately contacted Johnson Ford and found out the previous service manager I’d been communicating with was no longer with the company. I stopped using the truck at this time, A couple days later a new Service manger contacted me and after being explained the whole story he also conferenced a tech in on the call who advised he didn’t feel the truck should be driven 3-hours to make the necessary repairs, so they agreed to send a tow truck to pick my truck up from Louisiana and bring it back to Alabama. 2-days later a tow truck. Johnson Ford had the truck for another 10-days before they called and said it was ready for pickup. I picked the truck up, drove 3 hours home and everything seemed fine during the drive. It wasn’t until I pulled into my driveway that I heard the knocking noise. I brought the truck to a local Ford Dealership who confirmed, I know had a spun rod bearing on cylinder#6 and also head damaged was likely the cause of the excessive exhaust smoke.
On 5/31/24, I immediately contacted the GM of Johnson Ford Ben Odom; with all the findings via email and requested a full refund of the $7,800 since the new long block alone will cost me more than that. Over a week later on 6/12/24, I received this response from Ben Odom:
“After reviewing all the info. Our dealership did not do anything to hurt your truck. You have a truck with over 200k on it. We only replaced the parts that you were able to pay for. Sorry, but there’s will not be a refund.
Ben Odom”
I have filed a complaint with the Alabama BBB for assistance before moving forward with litigation.
@chadthibodeaux3947 Wow that's terrible.
I ordered the vacuum pump and currently looking at replacing the passenger valve cover while I'm in there. I see the (DL3Z-6582-C) valve cover as available now through an online vendor.
The vacuum pump look pretty easy to replace as well.
Hopefully that'll fix my current leaks.
Hope you get your truck back on the road soon.
@@skullhart
Thanks and good luck to you as well, definitely go with the OEM valve covers
Man, between you and Power stroke tech talk, I’m thinking in need to sell my Fords and go Toyota or something…good golly
I have DIYed this repair twice. I had to do it a second time because both times I was actually doing exhaust manifolds which requires turbo removal. I had to do it a second time because I used the original manifold design the first time, and they quickly failed again. Anyway, it's a PITA, but it can be done. Pull the fender wells instead of pulling the cab.
Can you get to the rear fitting in cylinder head without pulling cab or intake?
That’s only reason I’m thinking of removing cab now. Otherwise it looks like there is enough room to pull turbos without removing cab.
@@FleetTech97 There's enough room to get to everything. If you plan to change the coolant fitting on the back of the motor, pulling the cab will be easier. But you can definitely get it all done just going through the fender wells. Don't forget to replace the screen filters on the oil lines. Good luck!
seen your short on this a couple weeks ago, not a day later had one pull up for coolant leaks, fixed a leak at the heater core hose just to pressurize back up the system and find the one on the turbo. truck was at 160k miles.
Thank you for your in depth information on these ford vehicles. It has helped me numerous times on quoting job properly and this one is helping just the same. Grateful for the way you structure your information to explaining the repair.
Very complicated job if you don't have adequate tools, I did it watching this video, I'm Hispanic and thank you for sharing your experiences 🙌🏽
Great advice for the first gen Ecoboost. My 2012 has been babied with only 118k on it, but it's been a rock solid engine. I do my own spark plugs because they're pretty easy with just a step ladder. Don't think I'll extend that into turbo service.
I'm a 40 year auto shop owner/mechanic i show this video to all my Ford owners so they can see what its going to cost them to keep their truck on the road . Turbos are a waste of money in the name of fuel mileage. When you add these normal cost of repairs to your overall operating costs you can deduct your fuel mileage savings. I only own Toyotas and Hondas drive them 200-300 k without all this horrible engineering.
Wish I had a mechanic like you near me!!!
Almost hard to believe you can pull the cab so quickly, and it's still going to be ($5-6,000) with all that will be needed to do a comprhensive job. Impressive knowledge base, and excellent video, A ton of info in a relative brief timeframe.
Sooo glad I got the 5.0
I wish I would’ve got the coyote. I got the ecoboost and I deeply regret it! My brother got the coyote (same year - 13’) and he hasn’t had nearly the same amount of issues I’ve had!
I've dreaded this decision(buying the eco.) for many years. My fears have finally come to be. Lol
I used to dread doing any turbo related work on the 3.5 ecoboost until this past week when i finally decided to pull the cab to do this very job. Made it soooo much easier! Just wish i had done it sooner!
Damn everyone is pulling the cabs! I feel so behind 🤦🏻♂️
Mason great informative video one thing about working on Ford's you will never be out of a job
It actually took me about 5hrs to replace both coolant lines and passenger side turbo on my 2013 ford f150, I'm just a diy not pro . It's not easy job but it's doable with out lifting the cab lo.
I love your channel, man.
Love your videos ❤🙏💯 we really get a clear picture with the cab off. Just wish the cab came off a lot easier like the dodge ram trucks. Your diesel ford videos have saved me many times. Thanks again
So, basically I should just sell my 2014 EcoBoost F-150 that’s about to hit 150k miles. Passenger side turbo fitting is leaking coolant.
I replaced the o rings without taking the turbo off just the fittings, also if you are broke it’s not hard at all to fix biggest thing is the clips that hold on the hose.
I love how a ford tech called his channel flying wrenches
I feel you as a fellow mechanic that hates ford more than anything in the world
I also do not have a lift because I work in a independent shop
What is your honest take on the first gen ecoboost. I have one and try to maintain it very well. Never listen to the oil change percentage always do it at 5k
I was working with my shop lead on one of these in a Navi. Customer wanted to do turbos as well, and I ended up snapping a manifold bolt. It was at 157K.
I dropped my 2016 F150 off at the local dealer a month ago after getting hot readings. 77k miles. The tech could not figure out where the leak was coming from and couldn't replicate the leak after topping off. I took the truck home with no repairs completed. A few weeks later I smelled coolant. Truck is back in the shop. Just got the "email" report that the tech recommends replacing the "thermostat housing gaskets, crossover pipe o-rings, intake manifold gaskets, and water pump assembly" ($1,641.69) in addition to the turbo reseal ($3,763.45). This tells me they did not locate the leak and just want to throw the kitchen sink at it. I may do all of the recommended repairs anyways just to save myself from a future headache.
@Flying Wrenches - Can you give me a complete list of what else I should do while the truck is in there? I really appreciate the help.
Tempted to trade this in as-is and grab an F250 with the 7.3L which I'll need for a camping trip next summer. $5,500 to I assume $8k in repairs if I add to the list, or throw that at a new vehicle.
Email maysondunsford@gmail.com and I’ll see if I can get you a list up.
Get the 7.3................. don't be stupid. If you have the chance to get a solid 7.3 do it.
I'm a 30 year master tech and "top gun" award winner. I use the "when you wear out a shoe you don't buy just one shoe" analogy all the time myself. 😂🤣. Unfortunately I have to work on Ford's almost every day as well. That being said I replace the coolant lines without pulling the cab. The easiest way to achieve that is to remove the wheel wells to reach behind the engine and release the coolant line. I use a long prybar to clip the new lines back in once I get the fittings changed. Sounds like you've got some good advice though. Thumbs up. At least having to work on these all the time we know what NOT to buy. 🤣😂.
What is your recommendation for an F150 year/engine for reliability?
@@PRL1290 For me it's anything pre-phaser era. I'm not a ford guy or anything, but the old non-phaser 4.6 and 5.4 trucks were pretty tanky and less of a maintenance hog. but few people these days want to drive something from the late 90s to early 2000s.
@@mrmotormd right on thanks, I know the 2 valve 5.4s are good and the good ol 4.6 modular. Sucks that new stuff is bad. I've always thought the F series trucks were the best looking.
Nice summary Mason
From what I take from these informative videos,
"Ford Engineer is an oxymoron. " This is a pipe dream.
Have a 2017 3.5 ecoboost , coolent keeps needing topped off after a few months, I've had 3 water pumps replaced in the past 3 years so basically 1 every year , just had Mt 3rd one replaced 4 months ago and coolant is low again..I have a feeling this may be the issue and the dealer here is being lazy about it orntrying to act like it's not the issue. I also notice my Temps creeping up even on cold days with no load
2017 should have the new style manifolds. I’ve seen a small number of bad head gaskets cause repeat cooling system repairs on some 3.5’s.
I like your videos....I spent my adult life Fixing engines and transmission Had a 6.4 Powerstroke in a F550 that was a tow truck come in my shop for the repair Had coolant in the oil. the corner of the tank would loosen up and leak The operator kept driving it with the leak They ran it low and the water pump imp rubbed a hole in the timing cover Pulled it out and remaned it But Idid not pull the cab. Had very liitle help But it sure would have been easier with the cab off
Sooooo your telling me to stay away from purchasing a f-150
Every vehicle has issues. These are older 150s as he stated and newer ones do not have issues
@@MidwestMechanic IM in the market for a truck and i loved the way the 3.5 drove. Never owned a ford but maybe ill give it a try.
The newer ones eco boosts are having issues but not near to this extent. The V8 coyotes have a lot less issues.
@@screamneagle8420 So those V8s are problematic? Iv always been a GM owner however it is really frustrating they do not do simple things like make the passenger seat also powered and the cut out the parking sensors on there elevation series pickups. The back center seat in the new GMs stick out like crazy.
If you watch FW or PSTT, you’ll learn not to buy any ford apparently.
3:47 in Pennsylvania I have replaced many of them unfortunately not removing the cab. I don’t know if you run into it but the ones I have replaced have pinholes in the tube they are not leaking at the fittings. The tube is actually leaking.
Where are you located ? Have this issue now in SE PA
Jeez! Lots of 'while you are there' jobs in this one. OK for someone with a good hoist and the talent as without doubt a cab seperation for access.
This was very informative. I have one in leaking on the passenger side. Told her she'll need to come back because I'd rather pull the cab based on the oil leaks. What do you get for labor time on that job?
I wish I had gotten a v8 fuel injected model. The turbos are nothing but trouble and identical gas mileage.
Regretting my decision on ever buying a 3.5 ecoboost. Bought my F150 new in 2013. Only has 92k miles. Basically from everything I’ve seen on this gen 1 motor, it’s going to need a complete overhaul after 100k miles. Think I’ll just cut my losses and trade up for a new Tacoma.
What do you mean a complete overhaul?
Trade up to a Toyota ? 🤮🤮🤮 Good luck !
Make a video of how to fix or best option to do to " fix" the jerki transmission , harsh downshifting or when you go from " p " do " D" 🙏🏻 " TCM"?
Just started at Ford a week ago, caught a 2.7 with a coolant leak
Just want to add that the new manifold is around $625 CDN, so with all the parts for both turbos would be in access $2,000 CDN. A Ford dealer tells me it’s up to the Tech doing the job whether he’s wants to remove the cab or complete repair with it in place. Their shop rate in Edmonton ranges from $170 - $ 190 per hour.
Gets expensive quick
@FlyingWrenches13 would you recommend the 5.0 instead of the 3.5 ecoboost F-150??
What about the 6.2 vs. 5.0 F-150?
I bet the tech barely gets $40 of that ridiculous hourly rate.
@@stevemoerman4016that's often the case
What’s the most recent part No. for the manifolds? Would think at Fords price the BD Diesel manifold kit is still a better option
Great video, keep up the good work
Is there a listing of the part numbers? The Ford dealers in the area I'm currently in cannot tell me if they have the parts in stock and asked me if the mechanic who discovered the leak while replacing the starter gave me the part numbers, which he did not. He was a mobile mechanic helping us with our dead 2015 F150 3.5 ecoboost in the Yukon.
Great content! Thanks for sharing
Great info! Thanks!
Hey what’s going on!! I know my question has nothing to do with this video. I’m just trying to reach out to you sooner. It’s about the cam phaser video you made last year that I came across. I have that issue with my 18 3.5 eco that just started about 1000miles ago. My question is, how much time do I have before the cam phaser make my truck inoperable? Thanks in advance and keep up the great videos!!
Where is this shop ? I've been trying to find this guy to fix my dad's F-150.
I watch all your videos on Ecoboost turbos / Exhaust manifolds. Thank you. Made thing easier. Went with stock turbo replacments and DBDiesel manifolds. 2013 Ecoboost 130,000 miles.
Question- I replaced all oil lines, coolant lines, oil filter to turbos, vaccuum pump. I am gettng ALOT of white smoke now and I do not know why. Compression is good. Coolant pressure is good. Truck runs great but when I get into the turbo kicking in, on the down side of the turbos, LOTS of white smoke. Thoughts?
how can I get you to work on my truck?
I have a 2017 expedition and it seems like I have a coolant fitting leak from the passenger side turbo, have you started to see the upgraded fittings leaking now?
Thanks. Maybe I can send you my 2013 F150 for EVERYTHING you recommended. You guys in Atmore AL right?
I just replaced the fittings and line on the drivers side of my 2013 eco boost . I did it at home with no lift and no help. it wasn’t that hard buy I do recommend having some help
Almost shatterd that mirror making faces 😂😂😂
Is it possible to update to the newer style lines that bolt in instead of using the quick connect fittings? I am a professional tech and have obviously done several of these. The problem is we have a couple of them that are coming back without months with the quick connect fittings destroyed from what appears to be electrolysis. The only thing I have found to stop this (I think) is coating the threads of the fittings with either the black liquid “form a gasket” or liquid Teflon. Yes we are using all new fittings and pipes aaaaand factory coolant as well.
Wow u a Freaken good technician
Is the cab removal a pretty straightforward job? I've never thought of removing it before but man it looks like you could have access to so much with it out of the way.
I currently have both turbos and either vacuum or manifold leaking on my 2014 with 187k now I’m considering trading and staying away from anything with a turbo
Would be nice if there were part numbers listed somewhere.
Hey man... Any updates on a slight acceleration shudder on a 2021 F150 Ecoboost? 49 000 miles. Tune up has been done. A video would be Awesome 😎👍👍
This is a classic while ur in there do it all! Best way to get it all done in one shot and less expensive in the long run I would buy all the parts and let u charge me 10 hours for labor that sound about rt?
Ok, I Re Subscribed to the Channel to "TRY" and get some help once in a while from FORD Experts. Here, altho different, I do have a 2022 F-150 3.5 EB. 4600 Miles, and it's at the 3rd Dealership now for an issue I've had and asked about on Many Channels here on youTube. They have Ordered a NEW 10R80 for my Issue (knocking, Noise, Shifting Issues, Clunking and banging). Question is, did my 2022 have any Updated Part's Inside of it from the Build date, 03/2022. No one can give me a 100% definitive answer. So Mayson. Would you happen to know this answer? Thank you.
Oil leaks has plagued my 2015 f150 3.5 ecoboost. I just hit 130k mile mark yesterday and last week when I had my F150 in for routine service, I was told of two new leaks-- the front pan and turbo oil supply line. OMG these engines just love to drain the wallet. Now I am seriously considering to replace the engine to more problems can be avoided as the turbo are near end of their life and cam phasers issue is becoming an issue as well. Question, who provides the best replacement engine? Ford or remanufactured engine from a companies like Fraser?
How many hours does it take to replace both turbo collant lines and fittimgs..
While we’re discussing this, I stepped on a nail with brand new shoes, we’re can I go when I do only need one??
Is it possible for the coolant to leak into the exhaust through the turbo? I have a friend that thinks this is happening. He has coolant in the exhaust but no white smoke.
Explain to me again why we need turbos on a half ton truck
I have a leak from the turbo coolant fittings but not the hoses so that doesn’t need replacing. How much would it cost to repair just the coolant fittings? Approximately of course
I remember the 6.0 having to pull the cab, everyone was in agreement, it was a engineering failure, ford said, hold my beer, you’ll be pulling the cab on 150’s next..
so there are no UPGRADES? or you put in another bad design set fittings?
I’m curious what’s your honest opinion on a tundra or f150?
I wonder if you would know what cause slight vibration in my steering wheel and gas pedal on a 2015 F-150 it has a V8 coyote 5.0
Anyone know of a 2015 turn-key kit with all the fittings, lines, etc to upgrade the to the later model fittings without having to piece mill it all?
Este vato es chingon!
Thanks
I wish we had a legit ford mechanic where I live
Why did Ford not build a strong regular V6 engine? Why use a turbo charged engine in almost every F150 made?
But if I had the coyote???
@FlyingWrenches13 would you recommend the 5.0 instead of the 3.5 ecoboost F-150??
What about the 6.2 vs. 5.0 F-150?
I have a 2013 F150 EB that has a coolant leak. I am having an extremely difficult time finding anyone willing to do the work I want (replace all fittings and the manifolds) outside of ford who only wants to fix the one leaking fitting. Any suggestions?
I Want to see a 6.2L on the channel. I love my 6.2L F150
Lol I’m not a big fan. I rarely work on them but if I do, I’ll see what I can come up with!
@@FlyingWrenches13 Thanks! They are pretty reliable. Mine is getting ready for second plug change at 190k.
How much to change the turbo coolant fittings?
Does this also apply to the 17 expedition eco boost?
What do you think on a 2020 f150 3.5 that I now have the decel rattle after phaser replacement? Only does it cold and not in park or neutral? Might be software related
What state u in i need to take my truck to u
Soooo, basically replace the whole engine. Got it
Do you think I can put some bears stop leak I don’t have the money to fix do you think I would hurt my truck
Did you ever stop the leaks I am in same situation have not been working can’t afford to fix it
As a tech can you recommend a good choice for a used ford truck? Ive been wanting one bit tacomas are way over priced and the ecoboost engines kinda scare me do to the turbos and reliability
The First Generation 5.0’s that were in the 2011-2014 F150 were some of the best quality Ford ever produced, as a technician here in OR I mainly see these F150s for maintenance, the only concerns are normally, water pump leak, molded lead frame issue (which is across all 6r80 trans), and the degas bottle hose quick fitting will leak over time. All easy repairs and that truck will last you a life time. My 13 had 220k on it when I finally sold it and was a great truck 👍🏻 hope you find something that will serve you well!
I drive 99-06 Silverado’s only if that helps in anyway lol I agree with @stnrs1 that the early 5.0’s weren’t bad. I’d avoid high mileage turbo engines at all cost. They are kinda a money pit with age.
Ford gonna pay him not to show these issues at some point.
We still waiting on the check man
@@FlyingWrenches13 give it time, each video you make helps that day a bit closer. Thank you for what you do now. I appreciate it.
Almost 50,000 views I’d say should have been a recall.
Do you see any inherent unreliability with the 6.2 in the 250s and 350s? Am looking to buy a 3/4 ton and want to avoid the 6.7 due to the EPA starting to crack down harder on deletes.
6.2 is a great engine
Ford Service Manual: Step One Remove Cab
The only thing dummer than these fittings is replacing them with the same style only to leak again. Sell em AN style fittings and braided line.
In total how much will it cost
Around $4k
If you are watching this video, your truck needs this work done. Just me?
Can I bring you my expedition? 😊
How much money do you make as a ford tech
Would my wife's 2017 explorer 3.5 eco have the new fittings?
3.5L Ecoboost in the Explorer/Flex/Taurus does not have those fittings.
@@ghostwrench2292 sweet so no worries on her explorer then
He is correct! Don’t worry about the fittings but that water pump though…
Estimated time to remove and replace the body,
How long should it take a competent tech to remove and replace the F150 cab.
@@blainemcdonald6972 i’m guessing since Mason had already stated he’s very proficient at removing the cab and putting it back on that if it takes him two hours and 15 minutes that you could either double or triple it for another mechanic, but that’s just a guess.