thanks Capy for the video , I was so frustrated with the election , Left , Right , I was wondering did china got it right? and we f****up , well then your told me about social credit . I am happy with our system ... I would rather have free speech .
@@lawyermahaprasad rofl, my answer to you that we do not have fr. spch - I gave several examples - was auto-dlted by yt. Well, there you have it, your fr. spch. I left out a few "e" in the hope that this post will go through.
Since the Russo-Ukrainian war, I realized that the only countries on this planet that can supply unlimited artillery shells are China and the United States (I'm not a pro-communist and I'm not joking). In the 80s, it was possible to transport containerized artillery shells to Pakistan and Afghanistan while maintaining an absolute artillery firepower advantage in the Sino-Vietnamese War 😮😮😮
The 155mm is not american. It was a work from France and Germany to develop a common shell format. It was better than alternatives at the time and was accepted as a NATO standard as well as adopted by the USA.
11:42 "Nose bleed artillery" You stuffed the gas-generator in the wrong end of the shell! It is called *"base-bleed shell"* since the drag induced by the flat bottom of the shell is counter-acted by a small can of rocket fuel stuck in the *base* of the grenade. This rocket fuel deliberately does not burn fast enough to create thrust, but does generate enough gasses to fill out the vacuum behind the shell that slows it down over distance. It was designed by the Royal Artillery Bureau in Sweden in the 1960's to give the coastal artillery (fortified and mobile both) a longer reach, and came into active stocks in 1967.
The 200mm shell seems quite substantial, especially when considering that WW2 battleships had guns with a minimum caliber of 350mm and some even had shells upwards of 400mm.
@@TaskandpurposeThe total number of field guns supplied was 500 which included lighter Type-63 MRLs. Chinese total gun inventory in 1973 was 8,700, including 300 152mm guns and 7,400 122/130mm guns, with the remaining 1000 being a mix of soviet mrls and light tubes with short range. Hope this is helpful!
Dunning-Kruger ain't just for demonstrating that idiots equipped with an inadequate amount of knowledge will be overly confident, but also the self-doubt and questioning of ones intelligence one gains as they begin to gain more knowledge but have not yet mastered an art.
I think that the PLA is in love with arty because their original mentor, the Red Army of the USSR, was in love with arty. ETA: It's been pointed out to me that the PLA grew its emphasis on artillery entirely on its own, _not_ due to Soviet influence.
Yes and no. In the early history of the Chinese Red Army (the Chinese Communist Party’s armed forces had different names at different times, so here we refer to them as the Chinese Red Army), they were very short of heavy weapons and this caused many problems. For example, during the Anti-Japanese War, the Japanese built a large number of outposts in order to consolidate their rule in the occupied areas and block the Red Army’s bases, and the Red Army needed to destroy these outposts in order to break the blockade. But even at the end of the war (1944-45), the Red Army found it difficult to do this because the Red Army’s regular army was extremely short of artillery, shells and explosives, and the militia and guerrillas lacked even qualified light weapons. For the same reason, the Red Army was extremely short of offensive capabilities and often failed to capture cities. In contrast, in the subsequent civil war, after winning the decisive battle in Northeast China, the Red Army seized a large number of artillery and some armored vehicles from the Kuomintang army, which greatly increased the Red Army’s strength. In the subsequent Battle of Tianjin, the Red Army used these weapons intensively and quickly captured Tianjin, a city with a large number of fortifications. This made the Red Army more deeply aware of the importance of artillery. The same was true in the subsequent Korean War. The powerful firepower of the US military made the Red Army realize the importance of artillery and eager to develop its own artillery. In the 1950s and 1960s, China carried out rapid industrialization and established a national defense industry, truly gaining the ability to use artillery on a large scale, and then manufactured and stored a large number of artillery and ammunition in response to possible wars. In the war with Vietnam in the 1980s, the Chinese army's use and preference for artillery can be said to have reached a crazy level, which further strengthened the Chinese army's emphasis on artillery. I think that "PLA is in love with arty because their original mentor, the Red Army of the USSR, was in love with arty" is a very contemptuous idea. This idea portrays the Chinese as a Soviet follower and thinks that China is just a copy of the Soviet Union. This is very incorrect and disrespectful. In fact, the development path of China and the Chinese army is explored based on its own experience. In the history of the Communist Party of China and the Chinese Red Army, there have been several mistakes of borrowing, each of which only led to failure. Therefore, the Chinese hope to take an independent route. We will understand and learn from others' ideas, but we will modify them to adapt to China's situation. The Chinese did study Soviet tactical thinking, but they didn't copy it. In fact, this rule applies to all countries, armies, and people. The Egyptians and Syrians hired Soviet instructors to train their tanks and then suffered heavy losses in their wars with Israel. Liberia copied the political structure of the United States almost exactly, and the results were almost disastrous. No rules apply to everyone, people need to make their own way. I apologize to everyone who reads this comment, I don't speak English, so I used a translation software. I'm sorry if you feel hard to read this.
@@tomwdzm6424 Excellent summarization of the history of the Chinese Red Army, and well written! Thanks! I'm sorry if you thought my original post was "a very contemptuous idea," but it didn't grow out of _contempt_ for the Chinese Red Army. It grew out of ignorance (which you corrected very well), and my familiarity with the Soviet Army, which I was trained to understand and potentially face in battle as a US Army soldier. For example, on the eve of the Soviet Army's Operation Bagration in 1944, the Soviets assembled an enormous force that included 32,718 guns, rocket launchers and mortars against the Germans' 7,760 field guns. It was (and probably still is) Soviet doctrine that artillery must be overwhelming. So I assumed that Mao had Russian advisors who would have emphasized artillery. Perhaps he didn't have any such advisors. I'm less familiar with the history of the Chinese Red Army than with the Russian one. Thank you for correcting my ignorance! It sounds like a history worth learning.
hes just coping because he's not general and make fun of a legendary leader of china. i dont care how bad mao zedong was. but this man who own this youtube channel is just propaganda tool. a cope mechanism for american people in which their army is actually a joke and full of trans and dont even have epic military parade to show. usa has no charisma anymore and soon they are doom and have internal civil war.
Battle order did a good breakdown of pla artillery a wile back, The reason why so many pla guns are still 122mm is that they use 122mm at the maneuver brigade level and 155mm in Artillery brigades at the group army level
1M/year? That even not reach firework's consumption. In 2024, Chinese new year fireworks consumed 0.8M tons explosives. And this data is already in restricted state (fireworks inside Cities are restricted). I think a 155 shell won't heavier than 800kg. cause this mass can't be lifted by muscle. We joke Ukraine-Russia war total explosives consumption is less than our fireworks consumption. And from this, China REALLY didn't support Russia like a lot of guys think. Things won't be such boring like now if we support Russia like US support Ukraine. Seem like a lot of guys have no clue about Chinese heavy industry capacity. Currenty steel productivity is already in low capacity and still be asked to cut the capacity. BTW, For bombarment Taiwan, Artillery or rocket artillery are poor efficiency. Best way is using UAV throw JDAM, energy provided by high-efficient and reusable engine, cost is only fuel and explosives. And no risk of losing pilot. Chinese idiom: more sweat for less blood. (hmmm, social credit score... hahahaha)
“More sweat, less blood” is a slogan emphasizing the importance of rigorous training, not equipment. It means that the harder soldiers train, the fewer casualties they will suffer in real wars.
@@Shadowless_Kick my fault. This slogan have both meaning you said and mines. I hide some words. The correct form is: more workers sweat on rear for less soldiers blood on frontline.
Thats fucking scary to think about. Its like that one german realizing the nazis had no chance because an american soldier had a cake in france delievered from america in under a week. We see the chinese as weak just as the Axis powers saw america as weak during ww2, little did they know we were a dormant industrial powerhouse. China is what we were in ww2.
@@KuroNekoExMachina It will work. Because the range of 550km, can already be hit from the Chinese mainland to the eastern part of the central mountain range of Taiwan. And all the large cities in Taiwan are in the western plain of the island. Unless Taiwan has an Iron Dome system. Otherwise, it is extremely uneconomical to intercept a huge number of rockets with a limited number of Patriot missiles.
Thumbs up for an excellent coverage. One definite plus for the towed artillery is that it is light enough for larger helicopters like the Chinook, as well as the V-22 Osprey to AIR LIFT Also, if the barrel gets worn out (typical service life is estimated at ~2,000 rounds fired) or damaged, less needs to be hauled back for repair. The tow vehicle can remain in field. And, if the vehicle has mechanical issues or damage, another vehicle can hook up at a moment's notice. The M777 Howitzer weighs ~9,000 lb. So a full size pickup truck would suffice.
Your statement on who killed Bull is incorrect. Bull was killed by Mossad when he would not stop helping Saddam Hussein build his super gun. They tried to talk him out of it, but he was broke again and would not listen.
The super gun was just Bull’s dream project, a space launcher. Saddam was funding this for him in return for his development of steerable re-entry warheads for Iraqi scud missiles. Those, along with Iraq’s nuclear weapons program were the two things the Israelis were really upset about. The death of Bull took care of one of those problems. Their bombing of the Iraqi reactor being used to create weapons grade nuclear material, likely plutonium, took care of the other.
Back in 80s China was an US ally and had lots of technological transfers, so it make sense for China to adopt US/NATO standards in a hypothetical war with the Soviet Union.
True, they got to buy tank technologies from the West and that includes British gun, German engine, French transmission and collaboration with American engineers. But then 1989 happened and nobody wanted to work with them anymore.
@@FrostbiteDigital watch other videos if you don't want jokes and just straight information, this isn't for your collage thesis, people other then the "serious, no BS" are watching
Considering that the current NATO estimates for Russian artillery production is ~3 million shells per year I think we can safely assume that China's capabilities exceed that.
When I was a kid, we moved to the mid-Atlantic region. My father, who had been an ROTC ordnance officer took my older brother and I to Aberdeen proving grounds. This is before they started taking care of everything, and it was sort of a giant mobile home park where all kinds of captured and/or obsolete military hardware was sitting In a field rusting to death (foreign equipment) or in the median of the access road all US equipment, painted OD of course. If you get a chance, you should go there if you haven't. Its awesome. Obviously we couldn't get a look at all the gorgeous American equipment, but no one was paying much attention to the foreign equipment. My dad had a huge 35 mm slide collection of pictures we taken, and he even let my teenage pretty buff brother hold me up while he handed me his Mamiya 35mm so I could get pictures of the gun hardware on their Wespe and I'm trying to remeber which Marder(s) they had. I also snuck inside the Wespe when hewas photographing orher vehicles. It was comfortable for a middle school kid, so I cannot imagine how the heck 4 adult males could fit in that soace while firing the gun, and avoiding recoil. Yes, its ONLY 105mm but it's also ONLY a panzer ii chassis. 😮 BTW on a very overcast day one time we went, the clouds and light were justvright, and uou could see this really big, like 12 inches, slight dished area, maybe 1/2 or so in the center. My dad said that was probably a high explosive hit, and while it's not as obvious as the AP hole in the Matilda mantlet, it probably gave the crew a bad day. Concussions suck, though a hole punched by AP makes for a really bad day.
"There is a common misconception that China operates a nationwide "social credit score" system that assigns individuals a score based on their behavior, leading to punishments if the score is too low. However, this is not true. Western media reports have sometimes exaggerated or inaccurately described this concept." From Wikipedia
Not to mention USA has the WORST financial credit score system in the world. a little number on a page heavily affects your chances of getting a loan, and how much you pay in insurance, which makes your score even worse.
In January 1995 the Chinese army unveiled a 21 m long supergun capable of firing large artillery shells into South Korea and Taiwan. The gun could fire 85 mm shells over a 300 km range. Nothing further was heard of the weapon. BUT - Interestingly, China was one of the countries that retained Gerard Bull as a consultant in artillery design in the 1980's.
During 2020 India-China standoff, Chinese forces had deployed towed artillery in the dug outs. But Ladakh is not similar to Ukraine. There is negligible tree cover to protect towed pieces from FPV drones.
it is mountain area, good luck to try offensive operation there, even for chopper the place is not nice for them china can deploy mines, their own drone and target the area with their artillery
China paid Trump millions of dollars in bribe. It was originally billions, but they wrapped them in fortunate cookies to make their transport less obvious, which has proven to be a misjudgement not accounting for Trump's appetite and lack of taste.
@@leiregyp5814 Not quite. The sugar cookie recipe is Japanese in origin as a companion for tea. The "fortune" started in America. That piece of paper changes a generic sugar cookie into a fortune cookie and that started in California by imigrants from Japan.
China not only has the most numbers of artilelry, BUT (this might be surprising to many people) they also have the best quality artillery in the world too; Let me explain China has the *PLZ-05* which is a highly modern and very advanced Self-propelled Artillery Gun system with modern *digital Fire-control equipment* (equal to the German PzH 2000) It can also fire very modern ammunition, for example the *GP155A* guided anti-tank round, which is a copy of the German SMART-155, it contains 2 separate Anti-tank guided EFP warheads, able to accurately hit and destroy enemy tanks from over 30+ km away. This is basically a long-range anti-tank sniper. In addition to that, China also has the *WS-35* GPS precision-guided artillery round, which is acopy of the American Excalibur shell, but with longer range; But it doesn't end there, this is where it gets even more shocking: in the video you only talk about Cannon-artillery; BUT even more important is the *ROCKET LAUNCHER* artillery, which is even more powerful than the cannon-artillery. Because ROCKET LAUNCHER artillery have much more range and more destruction power with bigger warheads and explosive power (for example it can fire 300mm ROCKET compared to only 155 mm cannon artillery gun). And this is where China has become especially superior over any other nation in the world; China has been developing the most powerful Rocket launcher artillery in the world, for example the new Chinese *PHL-16 (PCL-191)* carries 8 x 370mm missiles with a range of 220 km! This PCL-191 greatly outranges the American M270 (HIMARS) which has only a range of 70~90 km (with standard rockets, or 150 km with special ammuniton, but still much less than the Chinese system) And as if this isn't already enough, China also has the *A300* Rocket launcher too, which has a range of 290km! But this isn't even the best Chinese artilelry yet. Even more impressive than the A300 is the new Chines *WS-2D* Multiple-Rocket-Launcher is currently the most powerful "conventional" aretillery system in the world. It carries 6 x 425mm missiles with a range of 400 km! This is literally *Tactical Ballistic Missile* range, but with 6 launcher tubes on a truck (compared to the American ATACMS which can only carry 1 or 2 TBM with a range of "only" 300 km which is much less than the Chinese system) What makes the Chinese *WS-2D* unique is the fact that it can also shoot drones (contained inside the missile as a sub-munition) so that the Chinese Rocket Launcher can release dozen of drones on the targeted area, swarming and overwhelming the enemy position with dozen of killer drones. Doesn't this sound absolutely terrifying? This shows that China has currently the most powerful Artillery arsenal in the world right now. America is only 2nd in this category today.
dont tell that to americans. you are destroying their cope mechanism. let them think that other military is weak and nothing can defeat american soldier with exosuit like nomad from crysis 1. USA always underestimate other countries to cope with their broken country that full of drugs and high homicide rate and paranoia. dont tell them these otherwise they hate asians more for no reason
Naming any Chinese made equipment with any European made equipment is a LOT. Especially German ones…with a ER base bleed 155 grenade VULCANO has a max range of 70km. Keep coping Wumao
Nice video as always it made me laugh. I do wonder why so many Army guys are afraid of the water? In the CG we love the water and need to take you on a ride in rough weather for some surf training or dropped offshore and need to swim home
Ryan, Were holding reeducation classes in your area. Please register with your districts Regional Oppression Officer. This offer is completey voluntary, but you are required to participate until completion.
From 1950 to 1974, China assisted Vietnam with the following military materials: 2,138,000 guns, more than 70,000 cannons, 124,440,000 rounds of ammunition, 18,070,000 rounds of artillery shells, 176 ships, 552 medium-sized and land and water tanks, 320 armored carriers, more than 170 airplanes, 16,000 automobiles, 18,240 tons of explosives, 65,000 cable TVs, 35,000 radios, 11,170,000 sets of military uniforms, which could equip 2 million people, or about RMB 4.26 billion. 35,000 units, 11.17 million sets of uniforms ...... can equip 2 million people, which is about 4.26 billion yuan.
@sims2556 But China did not dare not to support it, because China was afraid that the US military would approach China's national border and force China to have another Korean War
@@sims2556all this claim that China livelihood were "pitiful" is not supported by the fact that chinese were better educated and have longer livespan than their Indian counterpart during this period of supposively "bad" period for China. it is an error to attempt to judge economic output by using GDP that is denoted in dollar, since China has very little volume of trade with US, the currency exchange rate is highly unstable and are impacted by only a tiny faction of the economy. this lead to bad data when you attempt to use it for further projection the entire economy as you would be effectively "double guessing". considering China did not have access to loan and it machinery was stolen in WWII, it performance in the 1950-1970 is still very respectable when you compare it to it immediate peer: India.
You didn’t mention that extreme long range round jointly developed with Norway “Namo” and one of the big American firms. They made a ramjet round for extended range. They did not win the contract but I think it would be more feasible in big battle ship sizes. Low pressures and extended barrel work hours. Really interesting,Thanks for the content.
Fun fact: The Swedish archer system is based on Bandkanon 1. Its job was shooting nuclear shells. Actually was close to become the 4th nuclear armed nation. The former chef for Sweden secret nuclear weapon program was the former PM, Olof Palme. If you want to know more, look up here in YT the two part series: "The Swedish Bomb".
122mm artillery isn't obsolete, it holds a different doctrinal use than 152 or 155. It's light artillery rather than medium. The US still uses the M119 105mm.
GHN-45 (Gun, Howitzer, Noricum), which was offered in a variety of options like the APU and fire control systems. The first foreign sale was an order for eighteen guns with ammunition to the Royal Thai Navy for use by their Marine Corps. Other "aboveboard" customers included China, Singapore and Israel. All of these companies worked on local production under a variety of names, the Soltam 845P in Israel, ODE FH-88 from Singapore, and PLL01/WA021 in China.[6][7] Got it?
Bull was designing a huge artillery piece for iraq, who had no one but Israel to aim it at at that point. Its not a big surprise he was "taken care of"
Read the following story in a book about WW2. I'm not completely sure whether this really happened or was just a joke by the author. A British general does an inspection of a team of British soldiers firing a gun located on the British coast and trying to hit German positions across the English Channel in France. After the gun is fired an observer with a powerful telescope shouts loudly, "It's a hit!". The general asks, "What did we hit?". The observer says, "Europe sir. We managed to hit Europe". Though I seem to recall that one reason why Gerald Bull liked guns so much was that he thought they were more accurate than missiles. There are a lot of interesting things about Bull. He built a super sized gun in Barbados to try to send objects into space. When he was young he was inspired by the WW1 long range German gun that could shell Paris from a great distance and he always felt that it was painfully obvious that in any military confrontation the combatant with guns with greater range had the advantage because they can fire at an enemy who couldn't fire back at them.
One million shells per year is too humble. I work in the manufacturing world. The China production rate can easily exceed 10 times than that I think and that’s still not their max production rate. Factories can work 24/7 and it doesn’t take them long to build new factories.
122 isn't obsolete any more than 105 is. It just has to be used differently. Self propelled 105s can be fired by a crew as small as 2 and are incredibly mobile and easier to move through heavy cover like cities and forests would offer. 105mm, low-recoil guns on wheeled chassis are likely to become extremely important for their higher mobility than 155 guns. With all that said, I don't see them being nearly as in demand as 155.
@@DM-dn7rf yep. They aren't as flexible in munitions and aren't as effective against hardened targets, but for an advance force or rapidly deploying light infantry, it's indispensible.
For all the hype of the 155mm M777, it was never designed to fire the amount of rounds that the Ukrainians have been employing it. It's lightweight construction to give it's airlift capability is proven to be it's shortfall.
To answer the actual thumbnail question: Basically, a lot of Rocket Artillery can hit Taiwan from the chinese mainland, there's very little chance of any type of dumb-shell artillery having that range (150 km, roughly), but maybe some large pieces with specialty shells could. Also, of course there are naval guns that probably could... But --- well, they're mounted on ships. It kinda makes the question pointless. Gets a little more spicy if you imagine China maybe occupying some of the islands in the Taiwan strait, and building artillery parks. Pengiju islet is just 80 km (50 mi) from Downtown Taipei.
Chris said China is probably capable of producing a million heavy artillery shells annually. It shows that he had no idea of Chinese military industrial capacity.
With the conflict with Ukraine, Russia is producing 3 million shells per year. With China's leading supply Chain, it can easily produce much more than that.
@@Sunopeek maybe he means if they were to start producing shells right now, of course they could probably ramp up to much more than what Russia is doing.
@@SunopeekAs a Chinese I assure u that Chinese military productivity is far beyond that. Last year China produced 4.58million tons of commercial TNTs. So if each bomb we use 4tons of tnt, the productivity is exactly 1M😂
usually a large missle only uses up to 450 kg tnt equivalent. So 10M missile equivalent probably is the reserving industrial potential. Current productivity is ~3M (for military use they don’t publish real number)
The US report on China is probably more academic than practical.... If the US understands the Chinese tactics, it would have not lost the direct and indirect conflicts with China, China 1949, Korea 1953, Tibet 1955, India 1962, Vietnam 1975, and SCS 2021...
Chinese here. I don't think towed artilary has better chance to survive than self-propelled artillery in any case. Yes, if you dig deeper, FPV will have lower chance to find you. However, artillery reconnaissance radar will find you anyway! A very persuasive counterexample is that there are not many active M777 units in Ukraine now. They were all destroyed!
the fact that you have to preface your comment with "Chinese here" as if ethnicity somehow matters. I get the need to preface a title related to the topic or occupation related to the control or command of artillery.,,, but ethnicity .. ok
@@ningshanwang831 Being Chinese is not a credential even if the topic is on Chinese weapons. Thats a fallacy to appeal using irrelevant authority. Being Chinese doesnt inherently provide someone with expertise in the technical operation of Chinese Weapon systems. For example, I am not an expert on US weapon Systems just because I am an American. A more appropriate preface is "I am a Chinese artilleryman" or "I am a PLARF Soldier" these are credentials not "I AM CHINESE"
@@urcompnioncube0213 On the contrary, my message is "conflict of interest is claimed" or "I could be biased, but please consider my reasoning if you are interested." If you are not talking about the video itself, I am not replying anymore.
The most famous artillery piece is the M46 130mm, shoots 32 km bests every one except the US 175mm but the US gun is limited to 400 rounds between tube changes.
The reason china can produce so much shells is because of their resource reduction initiative. This is also the reason why Chinese shells are reusable.
@@cattysplatRussia was cut off from the "world" but still could easily procure all its required resources. Western supply lines are convenient, not a necessity.
After the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979, China & Vietnam still engaged in border skirmishes. If Wikipedia is accurate, the Chinese were using lots of artillery. In 1985 alone the Chinese fired one million shells into Vietnam.
@@EroticOnion23 The taliban didnt even reside in afghanistan for half the conflict. Whenever talibans were spotted they were killed. The US simply left because they had no inention to stay there forever. Seriously did you think the US will stay there forever?
@@benjaminnagy3007So who killed all the US and it’s allied soldiers inAfgan?Allied forces had about 600k troops, Talibans had about 100k troops. Allied losses was 77k Taliban losses were somewhere around 55k Did that went well?
the problem with modern artillery is the emergent drone issue. They're sitting ducks for a small swarm now and if their ammo dumps are anywhere near the cannons, good luck
Tbh China and U.S. likely also are working on drone tech now. Most drones used in Ukraine by both sides are made in China or use Chinese parts funny enough
@@joshuabonilla3491 Good that the US is FINALLY working on drones, because I won't buy a drone for personal use if they're made in China which means, NO DRONE FOR ME YET!
Let them ride in their own Hollywood fantasy land.... China is much more powerful than back then today... People who brag about western military don't have any clue as like their military... They never faced any peer competitor after ww2. Even in ww2, it was the Soviets that did the work relieving pressure on western front after launching an offensive on the eastern front
The USA has been fighting with someone somewhere for the past 100 years. USA not only has the tech but it also knows the why. China has been trying to copy 50 year old USA tech and still cant get it right. They simply can not do anything on their own. Only advancements they get that are simply stolen from the west are bought from the russians.
Its been decades and China still cant attempt to invade Taiwan. Meanwhile US invades wherever it wants. I would also estimate this country at this point.
Dr Bull worked on Extended Range Full Bore Base-Bleed Munitions - which use airodynamic streamlining and slower-burning gas generators to reduce the drag of the round to give 40-80km ranges to 6" & 8" guns. But they need small guidance mechanisms to be worthwhile at the longer ranges - requiring chipsets the Chinese have yet to be able to make. Rockets will probably continue to be their main weapon vs Taiwan as they can use RADARS to provide terminal guidance - and still have the volume and payload size to be a concern.
I couldn't help but think the production numbers for artillery are a bit conservative given Chinas current manufacturing status in the world. Their output compared to the 1950s must be enourmous.
China have one identical military strategy. They both love "canon-fodder" tactic. In the Battle of Yultong (Korean War) 1,000 Filipino troops battled 40,000 Chinese troops. The Filipino troops routed the Chinese and North Koreans. Eventually, the Red Chinese retreated.
That is why the United States 🇺🇲 LOST to Vietnam 🇻🇳 and Afghanistan 🇦🇫 too two countries that didn't have weapons to defend themselves they won with sticks and rocks
@@dannyzero692 ohh really? Hollywood's most patriotic and celebrated movies and BBC's documentaries say it was sticks and hoes. Are you calling then liars?
As opposed to handcuffing themselves with limiting their air campaigns and not going into Cambodia, where a sizeable amount of viet Cong stored supplies and manpower
Hey cappy do a series about rocket artilleries from around the world like us, uk , germany,russia,china,india etc.. it would be great to know about them...
i hate break it up to you guys but a country can not invade his own territory, even the U.S. recognize taiwan as a part of china, at least "de iure". We all know that "de facto" is another matter...
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thanks Capy for the video , I was so frustrated with the election , Left , Right , I was wondering did china got it right? and we f****up , well then your told me about social credit . I am happy with our system ... I would rather have free speech .
They might be preparing for India in the high mountains of Himalayas. It's just my opinion
@@lawyermahaprasad rofl, my answer to you that we do not have fr. spch - I gave several examples - was auto-dlted by yt.
Well, there you have it, your fr. spch.
I left out a few "e" in the hope that this post will go through.
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Fun fact: you can see the "made in china" on the shells after they land
Clever way of saying they're all duds.
Thank you for making me literally laugh out loud. A rare treat.
Since the Russo-Ukrainian war, I realized that the only countries on this planet that can supply unlimited artillery shells are China and the United States (I'm not a pro-communist and I'm not joking). In the 80s, it was possible to transport containerized artillery shells to Pakistan and Afghanistan while maintaining an absolute artillery firepower advantage in the Sino-Vietnamese War 😮😮😮
TEMU shells.
Dont buy ammo from Wish
that is a real solid paint job, ngl.
The 155mm is not american. It was a work from France and Germany to develop a common shell format. It was better than alternatives at the time and was accepted as a NATO standard as well as adopted by the USA.
Nice
@@yaxiongzhao6640 The nukes.
Allied, like the 75mm, and...
@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine both Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer were all German jew😂😂
@EmpireOfLies-s5v. Oppenheimer was born in NYC.
“Yo Vietnam now that we don’t want to support you how about you uh… give back all those guns we gave you?”
“Hmmm… No”
China Vietnam relation in a nutshell
"I mean you can have the bullets back... *cough* "
Well, they did return some of the shells, just not in the way China wanted
Is there anything except their oppressed workforce that actually works in east taiwan (china).
OH N-
11:42 "Nose bleed artillery"
You stuffed the gas-generator in the wrong end of the shell!
It is called *"base-bleed shell"* since the drag induced by the flat bottom of the shell is counter-acted by a small can of rocket fuel stuck in the *base* of the grenade.
This rocket fuel deliberately does not burn fast enough to create thrust, but does generate enough gasses to fill out the vacuum behind the shell that slows it down over distance.
It was designed by the Royal Artillery Bureau in Sweden in the 1960's to give the coastal artillery (fortified and mobile both) a longer reach, and came into active stocks in 1967.
The 200mm shell seems quite substantial, especially when considering that WW2 battleships had guns with a minimum caliber of 350mm and some even had shells upwards of 400mm.
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That joke's old
@@samsonsoturian6013 not as old as ur mom
@@Sidewinder1996 Is this channel full of 15 year olds?
@@samsonsoturian6013China currently has a social credit system
@@KonradvonHotzendorf Last I heard of it was a couple years ago
62,000 artillery pieces to Vietnam? That must include 82mm mortar tubes. Which is misleading in the context of the video.
Now that you mention it , you’re right I didn’t think of that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention
@@TaskandpurposeThe total number of field guns supplied was 500 which included lighter Type-63 MRLs. Chinese total gun inventory in 1973 was 8,700, including 300 152mm guns and 7,400 122/130mm guns, with the remaining 1000 being a mix of soviet mrls and light tubes with short range. Hope this is helpful!
@@ravenmusic6392it is.
As an 0341, I take offense to your statement. (Not really)
Been watching this channel for forever, it’s 6.2 million arty pieces
My ex was too comfortable using other men’s cannons.
Yea, I'm sorry about that. She said she just needed a bigger caliber😂
@@blakecrosby5123 with a bigger load :)
meow meow
:(
And I thought that I was the only one who had one like that 😂😂😂😂
I know he was saying "towed guns," but I kept thinking "toad guns" and... THEY'RE MAKING THE FRICKIN' FROGS GUNS!
Small things amuse small minds
Moses goes brrrrr, old testment style
Battletoads!
The Chinese are arming toads! They must be stopped!!
Glad they pointed out 233mm was bigger than 155mm otherwise I might have missed that.
Awesome video! Love the care and comedy that go into these videos. Thank you for the info and the laughs!
"No matter how much I learn, I learn how little I've learned. You Humble me" lmaoooooo
Man, if this ain't the truth!!!
Dunning-Kruger ain't just for demonstrating that idiots equipped with an inadequate amount of knowledge will be overly confident, but also the self-doubt and questioning of ones intelligence one gains as they begin to gain more knowledge but have not yet mastered an art.
I think that the PLA is in love with arty because their original mentor, the Red Army of the USSR, was in love with arty.
ETA: It's been pointed out to me that the PLA grew its emphasis on artillery entirely on its own, _not_ due to Soviet influence.
Yes and no. In the early history of the Chinese Red Army (the Chinese Communist Party’s armed forces had different names at different times, so here we refer to them as the Chinese Red Army), they were very short of heavy weapons and this caused many problems.
For example, during the Anti-Japanese War, the Japanese built a large number of outposts in order to consolidate their rule in the occupied areas and block the Red Army’s bases, and the Red Army needed to destroy these outposts in order to break the blockade. But even at the end of the war (1944-45), the Red Army found it difficult to do this because the Red Army’s regular army was extremely short of artillery, shells and explosives, and the militia and guerrillas lacked even qualified light weapons. For the same reason, the Red Army was extremely short of offensive capabilities and often failed to capture cities.
In contrast, in the subsequent civil war, after winning the decisive battle in Northeast China, the Red Army seized a large number of artillery and some armored vehicles from the Kuomintang army, which greatly increased the Red Army’s strength. In the subsequent Battle of Tianjin, the Red Army used these weapons intensively and quickly captured Tianjin, a city with a large number of fortifications. This made the Red Army more deeply aware of the importance of artillery. The same was true in the subsequent Korean War. The powerful firepower of the US military made the Red Army realize the importance of artillery and eager to develop its own artillery.
In the 1950s and 1960s, China carried out rapid industrialization and established a national defense industry, truly gaining the ability to use artillery on a large scale, and then manufactured and stored a large number of artillery and ammunition in response to possible wars. In the war with Vietnam in the 1980s, the Chinese army's use and preference for artillery can be said to have reached a crazy level, which further strengthened the Chinese army's emphasis on artillery.
I think that "PLA is in love with arty because their original mentor, the Red Army of the USSR, was in love with arty" is a very contemptuous idea. This idea portrays the Chinese as a Soviet follower and thinks that China is just a copy of the Soviet Union. This is very incorrect and disrespectful. In fact, the development path of China and the Chinese army is explored based on its own experience. In the history of the Communist Party of China and the Chinese Red Army, there have been several mistakes of borrowing, each of which only led to failure. Therefore, the Chinese hope to take an independent route. We will understand and learn from others' ideas, but we will modify them to adapt to China's situation. The Chinese did study Soviet tactical thinking, but they didn't copy it.
In fact, this rule applies to all countries, armies, and people. The Egyptians and Syrians hired Soviet instructors to train their tanks and then suffered heavy losses in their wars with Israel. Liberia copied the political structure of the United States almost exactly, and the results were almost disastrous. No rules apply to everyone, people need to make their own way.
I apologize to everyone who reads this comment, I don't speak English, so I used a translation software. I'm sorry if you feel hard to read this.
love? no, because it's cheap
They seem to be following the same patterns
@@tomwdzm6424
Excellent summarization of the history of the Chinese Red Army, and well written! Thanks!
I'm sorry if you thought my original post was "a very contemptuous idea," but it didn't grow out of _contempt_ for the Chinese Red Army. It grew out of ignorance (which you corrected very well), and my familiarity with the Soviet Army, which I was trained to understand and potentially face in battle as a US Army soldier. For example, on the eve of the Soviet Army's Operation Bagration in 1944, the Soviets assembled an enormous force that included 32,718 guns, rocket launchers and mortars against the Germans' 7,760 field guns. It was (and probably still is) Soviet doctrine that artillery must be overwhelming. So I assumed that Mao had Russian advisors who would have emphasized artillery. Perhaps he didn't have any such advisors. I'm less familiar with the history of the Chinese Red Army than with the Russian one.
Thank you for correcting my ignorance! It sounds like a history worth learning.
🥰伟大领袖毛主席不需要苏联专家指导，早在红军革命时期的博古李德等人就已经脱离第三共产国际的控制啦😘
"Keep doing it until I get tired" damn, that brings back memories.
“Only someone with my special kind of tism would get excited about “ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 had be rolling
hes just coping because he's not general and make fun of a legendary leader of china. i dont care how bad mao zedong was. but this man who own this youtube channel is just propaganda tool. a cope mechanism for american people in which their army is actually a joke and full of trans and dont even have epic military parade to show. usa has no charisma anymore and soon they are doom and have internal civil war.
I just got whiplash from that intro my man, keep up the great work.
He was Bing chilling
@@svenrio8521
Ping Chi Ling
"Comfortable using other men's cannons" -- LOL
😂
Battle order did a good breakdown of pla artillery a wile back, The reason why so many pla guns are still 122mm is that they use 122mm at the maneuver brigade level and 155mm in Artillery brigades at the group army level
提高火炮弹药的能量就无需加大口径
现代军队最重要的是体系不是单一武器
1M/year? That even not reach firework's consumption. In 2024, Chinese new year fireworks consumed 0.8M tons explosives. And this data is already in restricted state (fireworks inside Cities are restricted).
I think a 155 shell won't heavier than 800kg. cause this mass can't be lifted by muscle.
We joke Ukraine-Russia war total explosives consumption is less than our fireworks consumption. And from this, China REALLY didn't support Russia like a lot of guys think. Things won't be such boring like now if we support Russia like US support Ukraine.
Seem like a lot of guys have no clue about Chinese heavy industry capacity. Currenty steel productivity is already in low capacity and still be asked to cut the capacity.
BTW, For bombarment Taiwan, Artillery or rocket artillery are poor efficiency. Best way is using UAV throw JDAM, energy provided by high-efficient and reusable engine, cost is only fuel and explosives. And no risk of losing pilot.
Chinese idiom: more sweat for less blood.
(hmmm, social credit score... hahahaha)
The dumbest take was saying these small calibers would be fired across the Taiwan Strait. Then again, all these theories about a Taiwan war are.
“More sweat, less blood” is a slogan emphasizing the importance of rigorous training, not equipment. It means that the harder soldiers train, the fewer casualties they will suffer in real wars.
@@Shadowless_Kick my fault. This slogan have both meaning you said and mines. I hide some words.
The correct form is: more workers sweat on rear for less soldiers blood on frontline.
Thats fucking scary to think about. Its like that one german realizing the nazis had no chance because an american soldier had a cake in france delievered from america in under a week. We see the chinese as weak just as the Axis powers saw america as weak during ww2, little did they know we were a dormant industrial powerhouse. China is what we were in ww2.
this channel knows nothing about PLA capacity, 1M a year? maybe 2 M a month!
The ultimate firing range of the artillery was only 30 km. And the PLA has a long-range rocket artillery range of up to 550 km.
Mainland to Taiwan is 325km. So tube artillery no; rockets yes.
Repeat after me: "If it even works."
@@KuroNekoExMachina it will work
@@gentlemans7579 The narrowest point of the Taiwan Strait is only 130km. The average distance fluctuates around 210km.
@@KuroNekoExMachina It will work. Because the range of 550km, can already be hit from the Chinese mainland to the eastern part of the central mountain range of Taiwan. And all the large cities in Taiwan are in the western plain of the island. Unless Taiwan has an Iron Dome system. Otherwise, it is extremely uneconomical to intercept a huge number of rockets with a limited number of Patriot missiles.
You should definitely release a vid on rocket artillery soon, considering it's such an important part of the PLA artillery doctrine
yeah chinese rocket arty makes HIMARS look like a toy.
The history of Gerald Bull is fascinating.
"It's the kind document that only someone with my special kind of tism would get excited about"
This is pretty relatable
Excellent
Fascinating
Better than vast majority of media.
Keep it up
The problem of US underestimate china arsenal
“Strive to be more powerful have fun at Sarah Lawrence” made me spit burrito at my phone. THANKS HOMIE😂
Why'd you spit your burrito at your phone? Seems kinda dumb, burritos aren't cheap.
The US should say they're switching from 155mm to 157mm and cause China to switch all its artillery.
The day China stops copying and starts making their own stuff will be a scary day
I dont think that wilwork whit the amount of spying china does bud if it works that would be realy nice bud only if we did it just before a war
Gotcha!!😂
USA has no money to play these cheap tricks.
@@Mar-ec7et Oh we do. It would just be incredibly dumb to actually do it. That's why he said we should just claim to.
Favorite military RUclipsr
By far, and I heard he doesn’t tuck, or use pronouns
@1tactundra140 as long as he's not a recruitment psyop I'm ok with it
@@1tactundra140you just used pronouns to describe this man. lol
@@1tactundra140~he~ doesn't use pronouns 🤔
@@patrickglaser1560No but he is a propagandist lol
Thumbs up for an excellent coverage. One definite plus for the towed artillery is that it is light enough for larger helicopters like the Chinook, as well as the V-22 Osprey to AIR LIFT
Also, if the barrel gets worn out (typical service life is estimated at ~2,000 rounds fired) or damaged, less needs to be hauled back for repair. The tow vehicle can remain in field.
And, if the vehicle has mechanical issues or damage, another vehicle can hook up at a moment's notice. The M777 Howitzer weighs ~9,000 lb. So a full size pickup truck would suffice.
Now military command can choose between "shoot and scoot" vs "fire on da move."
Your statement on who killed Bull is incorrect. Bull was killed by Mossad when he would not stop helping Saddam Hussein build his super gun. They tried to talk him out of it, but he was broke again and would not listen.
yes there isn't confirmation though, no one knows for certain who killed him. people believe it was mossad
@@TaskandpurposeSaid I'm super done.Had a full 360° traverse. Iran,Saudi Arabia, Syria and the Soviet Union could all be suspects
Well, don't speak the name, it's you know who.
The super gun was just Bull’s dream project, a space launcher. Saddam was funding this for him in return for his development of steerable re-entry warheads for Iraqi scud missiles. Those, along with Iraq’s nuclear weapons program were the two things the Israelis were really upset about. The death of Bull took care of one of those problems. Their bombing of the Iraqi reactor being used to create weapons grade nuclear material, likely plutonium, took care of the other.
@@Taskandpurpose That's correct. But I might be able to find out. ;-)
Back in 80s China was an US ally and had lots of technological transfers, so it make sense for China to adopt US/NATO standards in a hypothetical war with the Soviet Union.
True, they got to buy tank technologies from the West and that includes British gun, German engine, French transmission and collaboration with American engineers. But then 1989 happened and nobody wanted to work with them anymore.
😢
@@dannyzero692 Nothing noteworthy happened in 1989. Especially in Tiananmen square, I assure you.
@@Sirius_A yup a tank definitely did not run over a student or anything
@@Sirius_Asame thing with Germany 1939-1945, everyone was on vacation
Chris you tryin to restrain yourself from doing a KungFu karate chop during the intro was visible lol..
😂😂😂 bro I thought the same thing
you know me too well haha
@@TaskandpurposeYou should cut the BS with these videos Cappy.
@@FrostbiteDigital watch other videos if you don't want jokes and just straight information, this isn't for your collage thesis, people other then the "serious, no BS" are watching
@@FrostbiteDigital shut up nerd
Considering that the current NATO estimates for Russian artillery production is ~3 million shells per year I think we can safely assume that China's capabilities exceed that.
一个工厂一个月能生产1000枚巡航导弹，你觉得效率怎么样？😊😊
When I was a kid, we moved to the mid-Atlantic region. My father, who had been an ROTC ordnance officer took my older brother and I to Aberdeen proving grounds. This is before they started taking care of everything, and it was sort of a giant mobile home park where all kinds of captured and/or obsolete military hardware was sitting In a field rusting to death (foreign equipment) or in the median of the access road all US equipment, painted OD of course.
If you get a chance, you should go there if you haven't. Its awesome.
Obviously we couldn't get a look at all the gorgeous American equipment, but no one was paying much attention to the foreign equipment. My dad had a huge 35 mm slide collection of pictures we taken, and he even let my teenage pretty buff brother hold me up while he handed me his Mamiya 35mm so I could get pictures of the gun hardware on their Wespe and I'm trying to remeber which Marder(s) they had.
I also snuck inside the Wespe when hewas photographing orher vehicles. It was comfortable for a middle school kid, so I cannot imagine how the heck 4 adult males could fit in that soace while firing the gun, and avoiding recoil. Yes, its ONLY 105mm but it's also ONLY a panzer ii chassis. 😮
BTW on a very overcast day one time we went, the clouds and light were justvright, and uou could see this really big, like 12 inches, slight dished area, maybe 1/2 or so in the center. My dad said that was probably a high explosive hit, and while it's not as obvious as the AP hole in the Matilda mantlet, it probably gave the crew a bad day. Concussions suck, though a hole punched by AP makes for a really bad day.
Don't worry Cappy your social score can only go up from now on.
"There is a common misconception that China operates a nationwide "social credit score" system that assigns individuals a score based on their behavior, leading to punishments if the score is too low. However, this is not true. Western media reports have sometimes exaggerated or inaccurately described this concept." From Wikipedia
Not to mention USA has the WORST financial credit score system in the world. a little number on a page heavily affects your chances of getting a loan, and how much you pay in insurance, which makes your score even worse.
@@lapideous +1000 social credit
@@TripleOmega-2000IQ🧠
The story about Gerald Bull's demise reminds me that I signed a Non Disclosure Agreemen(NDA) that is legally binding!
You don't want to break that one!
Wikipedia implied Mossad was behind it because he was assisting Saddam with a project that was a threat to Israel.
So don't break it then 💀
"At this point they were very comfortable using other men's cannons"
In January 1995 the Chinese army unveiled a 21 m long supergun capable of firing large artillery shells into South Korea and Taiwan. The gun could fire 85 mm shells over a 300 km range. Nothing further was heard of the weapon. BUT - Interestingly, China was one of the countries that retained Gerard Bull as a consultant in artillery design in the 1980's.
The idea of using nuclear artillery on an island you want to invade is ridiculous. 😂
Why not? The US did that to Japan. Both cities are fine today. They were fine 70 years ago.
@@robertthomas5906 We didn’t invade those cities.
During 2020 India-China standoff, Chinese forces had deployed towed artillery in the dug outs. But Ladakh is not similar to Ukraine. There is negligible tree cover to protect towed pieces from FPV drones.
But China is the world's largest and most advanced drone manufacturer.
It's not about hiding. It's about getting to positions that ground vehicles can't get to, even though China has more of them too.
it is mountain area, good luck to try offensive operation there, even for chopper the place is not nice for them
china can deploy mines, their own drone and target the area with their artillery
@@vkobevk That place is only 400 kilometers from New Delhi. No need to deploy mines, just medium-range rockets is ok.
Doubt it
''China is a bit of a mystery wrapped in a ... in a fortune cookie''
😅
China paid Trump millions of dollars in bribe. It was originally billions, but they wrapped them in fortunate cookies to make their transport less obvious, which has proven to be a misjudgement not accounting for Trump's appetite and lack of taste.
Strangely enough, you won't find fortune cookies in China. Those started as an American thing.
错，美国对中国了如指掌，一定都不担心中国！😊
@@georgebulbakwa9017 wrong they originate from japan
@@leiregyp5814 Not quite. The sugar cookie recipe is Japanese in origin as a companion for tea. The "fortune" started in America. That piece of paper changes a generic sugar cookie into a fortune cookie and that started in California by imigrants from Japan.
"Go pick up artillery shells until I get tired"
"No a_s, no brammo, Drill Sgt!"
That's very ambiguous
China not only has the most numbers of artilelry, BUT (this might be surprising to many people) they also have the best quality artillery in the world too; Let me explain
China has the *PLZ-05* which is a highly modern and very advanced Self-propelled Artillery Gun system with modern *digital Fire-control equipment* (equal to the German PzH 2000)
It can also fire very modern ammunition, for example the *GP155A* guided anti-tank round, which is a copy of the German SMART-155, it contains 2 separate Anti-tank guided EFP warheads, able to accurately hit and destroy enemy tanks from over 30+ km away.
This is basically a long-range anti-tank sniper.
In addition to that, China also has the *WS-35* GPS precision-guided artillery round, which is acopy of the American Excalibur shell, but with longer range;
But it doesn't end there, this is where it gets even more shocking: in the video you only talk about Cannon-artillery; BUT even more important is the *ROCKET LAUNCHER* artillery, which is even more powerful than the cannon-artillery. Because ROCKET LAUNCHER artillery have much more range and more destruction power with bigger warheads and explosive power
(for example it can fire 300mm ROCKET compared to only 155 mm cannon artillery gun). And this is where China has become especially superior over any other nation in the world;
China has been developing the most powerful Rocket launcher artillery in the world, for example the new Chinese *PHL-16 (PCL-191)* carries 8 x 370mm missiles with a range of 220 km!
This PCL-191 greatly outranges the American M270 (HIMARS) which has only a range of 70~90 km (with standard rockets, or 150 km with special ammuniton, but still much less than the Chinese system)
And as if this isn't already enough, China also has the *A300* Rocket launcher too, which has a range of 290km! But this isn't even the best Chinese artilelry yet.
Even more impressive than the A300 is the new Chines *WS-2D* Multiple-Rocket-Launcher is currently the most powerful "conventional" aretillery system in the world.
It carries 6 x 425mm missiles with a range of 400 km! This is literally *Tactical Ballistic Missile* range, but with 6 launcher tubes on a truck (compared to the American ATACMS which can only carry 1 or 2 TBM with a range of "only" 300 km which is much less than the Chinese system)
What makes the Chinese *WS-2D* unique is the fact that it can also shoot drones (contained inside the missile as a sub-munition) so that the Chinese Rocket Launcher can release dozen of drones on the targeted area, swarming and overwhelming the enemy position with dozen of killer drones. Doesn't this sound absolutely terrifying?
This shows that China has currently the most powerful Artillery arsenal in the world right now. America is only 2nd in this category today.
dont tell that to americans. you are destroying their cope mechanism. let them think that other military is weak and nothing can defeat american soldier with exosuit like nomad from crysis 1. USA always underestimate other countries to cope with their broken country that full of drugs and high homicide rate and paranoia. dont tell them these otherwise they hate asians more for no reason
Naming any Chinese made equipment with any European made equipment is a LOT.
Especially German ones…with a ER base bleed 155 grenade VULCANO has a max range of 70km.
Keep coping Wumao
@@d.o.g573 emma got 2 moms , you cope more
@@d.o.g573 3mm4 got 2 m0ms. cope more boy
@@d.o.g573 How about Railgun,?
Always love your videos, good explanations with unbiased commentary, love it as a Chinese person ❤
Nice video as always it made me laugh. I do wonder why so many Army guys are afraid of the water? In the CG we love the water and need to take you on a ride in rough weather for some surf training or dropped offshore and need to swim home
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China seems to have more different types of artillery compared to the US that has the very old paladin and the 155 & 105 towed gun only
isnt the US searching for an new artillery
Going from the Soviet calibers which were many to two
Be lot of the older stuff around for years
From 1950 to 1974, China assisted Vietnam with the following military materials: 2,138,000 guns, more than 70,000 cannons, 124,440,000 rounds of ammunition, 18,070,000 rounds of artillery shells, 176 ships, 552 medium-sized and land and water tanks, 320 armored carriers, more than 170 airplanes, 16,000 automobiles, 18,240 tons of explosives, 65,000 cable TVs, 35,000 radios, 11,170,000 sets of military uniforms, which could equip 2 million people, or about RMB 4.26 billion. 35,000 units, 11.17 million sets of uniforms ...... can equip 2 million people, which is about 4.26 billion yuan.
Therefore, China's people's livelihood was so pitiful during that period.
@sims2556 But China did not dare not to support it, because China was afraid that the US military would approach China's national border and force China to have another Korean War
@@XkMeng All this is just the CCP’s fear of losing power and has nothing to do with the survival of the Chinese people.
And do they appreciate it? I have no idea, but according to notoriously unreliable media they don't. Not sure what to conclude there.
@@sims2556all this claim that China livelihood were "pitiful" is not supported by the fact that chinese were better educated and have longer livespan than their Indian counterpart during this period of supposively "bad" period for China. it is an error to attempt to judge economic output by using GDP that is denoted in dollar, since China has very little volume of trade with US, the currency exchange rate is highly unstable and are impacted by only a tiny faction of the economy. this lead to bad data when you attempt to use it for further projection the entire economy as you would be effectively "double guessing". considering China did not have access to loan and it machinery was stolen in WWII, it performance in the 1950-1970 is still very respectable when you compare it to it immediate peer: India.
You didn’t mention that extreme long range round jointly developed with Norway “Namo” and one of the big American firms. They made a ramjet round for extended range. They did not win the contract but I think it would be more feasible in big battle ship sizes. Low pressures and extended barrel work hours. Really interesting,Thanks for the content.
The arc of artillery is long but it bends towards the enemy. - Sun Tzu
its gonna be real awkward when the ccp starts asking their civilians to start picking up any american artillery shells they can find
"No a_s no brammo, Drill Sgt!"
Well, if it's 155mm (more common that any other American artillery piece), they wouldn't have a shell to collect.
In WWII, China produced 45000 ton steel in eight years. Now, consider China is the largest steel producer, you won't see what you said.
That won't ever happen. They're destroying us from the inside already.
@@hdm4825yea but most of that steel has proven to be very brittle & low quality, so it’s far from military grade
11:50 It's base bleed, there is no such thing as "nose bleed" artillery.
@@Taskandpurpose It's okay slappy pappy, I forgive you
Fun fact: The Swedish archer system is based on Bandkanon 1. Its job was shooting nuclear shells. Actually was close to become the 4th nuclear armed nation. The former chef for Sweden secret nuclear weapon program was the former PM, Olof Palme. If you want to know more, look up here in YT the two part series: "The Swedish Bomb".
I think it's called "base bleed", as the low pressure area is created at the base of the expelled shell.
122mm artillery isn't obsolete, it holds a different doctrinal use than 152 or 155. It's light artillery rather than medium. The US still uses the M119 105mm.
GHN-45 (Gun, Howitzer, Noricum), which was offered in a variety of options like the APU and fire control systems. The first foreign sale was an order for eighteen guns with ammunition to the Royal Thai Navy for use by their Marine Corps. Other "aboveboard" customers included China, Singapore and Israel. All of these companies worked on local production under a variety of names, the Soltam 845P in Israel, ODE FH-88 from Singapore, and PLL01/WA021 in China.[6][7] Got it?
Bull was designing a huge artillery piece for iraq, who had no one but Israel to aim it at at that point. Its not a big surprise he was "taken care of"
Read the following story in a book about WW2.
I'm not completely sure whether this really happened or was just a joke by the author.
A British general does an inspection of a team of British soldiers firing a gun located on the British coast and trying to hit German positions across the English Channel in France.
After the gun is fired an observer with a powerful telescope shouts loudly, "It's a hit!".
The general asks, "What did we hit?".
The observer says, "Europe sir. We managed to hit Europe".
Though I seem to recall that one reason why Gerald Bull liked guns so much was that he thought they were more accurate than missiles.
There are a lot of interesting things about Bull.
He built a super sized gun in Barbados to try to send objects into space.
When he was young he was inspired by the WW1 long range German gun that could shell Paris from a great distance and he always felt that it was painfully obvious that in any military confrontation the combatant with guns with greater range had the advantage because they can fire at an enemy who couldn't fire back at them.
Germans did the same
His worked on the same principle as a German supper cannon which the British bombed before completing
Use towed systems as fixtures for a permanent/static front line, while using towed artillery for mobile units and shifting fronts.
They are called "base bleed projectiles", not "nose bleed".... where did you get "nose bleed" from?
One million shells per year is too humble. I work in the manufacturing world. The China production rate can easily exceed 10 times than that I think and that’s still not their max production rate. Factories can work 24/7 and it doesn’t take them long to build new factories.
嘘，低调😅示敌以弱才能出其不意
嘘🤫
China can produce as much shells in a day as the United States does in a year
122 isn't obsolete any more than 105 is. It just has to be used differently. Self propelled 105s can be fired by a crew as small as 2 and are incredibly mobile and easier to move through heavy cover like cities and forests would offer. 105mm, low-recoil guns on wheeled chassis are likely to become extremely important for their higher mobility than 155 guns. With all that said, I don't see them being nearly as in demand as 155.
They are also cheaper to make, easier to repair, have a longer barrel life, and have a higher rate of fire.
@@DM-dn7rf yep. They aren't as flexible in munitions and aren't as effective against hardened targets, but for an advance force or rapidly deploying light infantry, it's indispensible.
For all the hype of the 155mm M777, it was never designed to fire the amount of rounds that the Ukrainians have been employing it. It's lightweight construction to give it's airlift capability is proven to be it's shortfall.
Yes, I agree the tank needs to TRANSFORM into a Battle Mech!
Nice work cappy
To answer the actual thumbnail question: Basically, a lot of Rocket Artillery can hit Taiwan from the chinese mainland, there's very little chance of any type of dumb-shell artillery having that range (150 km, roughly), but maybe some large pieces with specialty shells could.
Also, of course there are naval guns that probably could... But --- well, they're mounted on ships. It kinda makes the question pointless.
Gets a little more spicy if you imagine China maybe occupying some of the islands in the Taiwan strait, and building artillery parks. Pengiju islet is just 80 km (50 mi) from Downtown Taipei.
Only rocket artillery has ranges greater than 50km.
Chris said China is probably capable of producing a million heavy artillery shells annually. It shows that he had no idea of Chinese military industrial capacity.
With the conflict with Ukraine, Russia is producing 3 million shells per year. With China's leading supply Chain, it can easily produce much more than that.
@@pugster73I think he means China is capable of much more than 1 million annually?
@@Sunopeek maybe he means if they were to start producing shells right now, of course they could probably ramp up to much more than what Russia is doing.
@@SunopeekAs a Chinese I assure u that Chinese military productivity is far beyond that. Last year China produced 4.58million tons of commercial TNTs. So if each bomb we use 4tons of tnt, the productivity is exactly 1M😂
usually a large missle only uses up to 450 kg tnt equivalent. So 10M missile equivalent probably is the reserving industrial potential. Current productivity is ~3M (for military use they don’t publish real number)
The US report on China is probably more academic than practical.... If the US understands the Chinese tactics, it would have not lost the direct and indirect conflicts with China, China 1949, Korea 1953, Tibet 1955, India 1962, Vietnam 1975, and SCS 2021...
did i just hear tibet ?
they love it that this guy is making these videos, they love it.
Great video Cappy!
Also can you do a video on the Babylon space cannon in Iraq
Chinese here. I don't think towed artilary has better chance to survive than self-propelled artillery in any case. Yes, if you dig deeper, FPV will have lower chance to find you. However, artillery reconnaissance radar will find you anyway! A very persuasive counterexample is that there are not many active M777 units in Ukraine now. They were all destroyed!
the fact that you have to preface your comment with "Chinese here" as if ethnicity somehow matters. I get the need to preface a title related to the topic or occupation related to the control or command of artillery.,,, but ethnicity .. ok
@@urcompnioncube0213 14:22 Turned out you have not watched the video through. Totally related
@@ningshanwang831 Being Chinese is not a credential even if the topic is on Chinese weapons. Thats a fallacy to appeal using irrelevant authority. Being Chinese doesnt inherently provide someone with expertise in the technical operation of Chinese Weapon systems. For example, I am not an expert on US weapon Systems just because I am an American. A more appropriate preface is "I am a Chinese artilleryman" or "I am a PLARF Soldier" these are credentials not "I AM CHINESE"
@@urcompnioncube0213 On the contrary, my message is "conflict of interest is claimed" or "I could be biased, but please consider my reasoning if you are interested." If you are not talking about the video itself, I am not replying anymore.
@@ningshanwang831 this circles back to the fact that you have to preface your ethnicity ..
Hold up a minute.. I swear the thumbnail had a drooping barrel yesterday?! 😂
The most famous artillery piece is the M46 130mm, shoots 32 km bests every one except the US 175mm but the US gun is limited to 400 rounds between tube changes.
The South African G-5 and G-6 is laughing right now.
the main issue with towed arty is that is really vulnerable to counter battery fire.
The reason china can produce so much shells is because of their resource reduction initiative. This is also the reason why Chinese shells are reusable.
lol
They also get raw materials from Australia, who could turn off the tap when they feel like it.
@@cattysplat😂😂😂 What raw materials Aus have that Russia, India cannot supply? Or even Asia in whole context... You are really funny bro 😂😂
@@cattysplatRussia was cut off from the "world" but still could easily procure all its required resources.
Western supply lines are convenient, not a necessity.
After the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979, China & Vietnam still engaged in border skirmishes. If Wikipedia is accurate, the Chinese were using lots of artillery. In 1985 alone the Chinese fired one million shells into Vietnam.
You lost me at " if Wikipedia is accurate " lol.
Is that what they wrote to cope about why they couldn't take Chinese positions?
"How Powerful is China's Artillery?" Half or less of whatever they say it is.
Same with USA (can't even beat Taliban and shamefully ran away)...
@@EroticOnion23 not, in usa you have to do it with the adquisition cost of the weapons
@@EroticOnion23 The taliban didnt even reside in afghanistan for half the conflict. Whenever talibans were spotted they were killed. The US simply left because they had no inention to stay there forever. Seriously did you think the US will stay there forever?
@@benjaminnagy3007So who killed all the US and it’s allied soldiers inAfgan?Allied forces had about 600k troops, Talibans had about 100k troops.
Allied losses was 77k Taliban losses were somewhere around 55k
Did that went well?
@@MrCastodian where the fuck did you even get 77k??? Nato losses were 3k. The fck are you on? Besides most of the deaths happened in the early stages
Your Milautism is appreciated 😅❤
The fact that your honest about your bias definitely is a good thing
One thing i learned last years about armies and wars... dont believe these videos :D
the problem with modern artillery is the emergent drone issue. They're sitting ducks for a small swarm now and if their ammo dumps are anywhere near the cannons, good luck
Tbh China and U.S. likely also are working on drone tech now. Most drones used in Ukraine by both sides are made in China or use Chinese parts funny enough
@@joshuabonilla3491 Good that the US is FINALLY working on drones, because I won't buy a drone for personal use if they're made in China which means, NO DRONE FOR ME YET!
The battle field, tomorrow's wars fought with yesterday's technology.
Said the same about tanks when AT weapons were made
Keep underestimating them ! Westerns are a special breed of people 😂
yes they keep forgetting who produces their hight quality products too
Let them ride in their own Hollywood fantasy land.... China is much more powerful than back then today... People who brag about western military don't have any clue as like their military... They never faced any peer competitor after ww2. Even in ww2, it was the Soviets that did the work relieving pressure on western front after launching an offensive on the eastern front
The USA has been fighting with someone somewhere for the past 100 years. USA not only has the tech but it also knows the why.
China has been trying to copy 50 year old USA tech and still cant get it right. They simply can not do anything on their own. Only advancements they get that are simply stolen from the west are bought from the russians.
Its been decades and China still cant attempt to invade Taiwan. Meanwhile US invades wherever it wants. I would also estimate this country at this point.
Is this the Donger from 16 candles movie?
Dr Bull worked on Extended Range Full Bore Base-Bleed Munitions - which use airodynamic streamlining and slower-burning gas generators to reduce the drag of the round to give 40-80km ranges to 6" & 8" guns. But they need small guidance mechanisms to be worthwhile at the longer ranges - requiring chipsets the Chinese have yet to be able to make. Rockets will probably continue to be their main weapon vs Taiwan as they can use RADARS to provide terminal guidance - and still have the volume and payload size to be a concern.
I would say the Chinese switched to copying the 155mm standard because it would sell better in the export market.
I couldn't help but think the production numbers for artillery are a bit conservative given Chinas current manufacturing status in the world. Their output compared to the 1950s must be enourmous.
All using iron ore from Australia too.
That’s an issue.
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China have one identical military strategy. They both love "canon-fodder" tactic. In the Battle of Yultong (Korean War) 1,000 Filipino troops battled 40,000 Chinese troops. The Filipino troops routed the Chinese and North Koreans. Eventually, the Red Chinese retreated.
Yah, the allies killed a billion Chinese, that’s why the war was a stalemate.
The MOSSAD killed Gerald Bull.
0:28 This self-propelled howitzer is still have to be loaded manually, what an advanced artillery it is.
The Excalibur shell is a Raytheon-Bofors colab, which makes it an American/Swedish shell.
Bing Chilling
Edit: Xue hua piao piao bei feng xiao xiao
North Korea does not care of big artillery, big tanks or submarines. they focus on ballistic missile nukes.
That is why the United States 🇺🇲 LOST to Vietnam 🇻🇳 and Afghanistan 🇦🇫 too two countries that didn't have weapons to defend themselves they won with sticks and rocks
Bull's-eye
I don’t think the average taliban or viet cong fight with sticks and rocks.
@@dannyzero692 ohh really? Hollywood's most patriotic and celebrated movies and BBC's documentaries say it was sticks and hoes. Are you calling then liars?
As opposed to handcuffing themselves with limiting their air campaigns and not going into Cambodia, where a sizeable amount of viet Cong stored supplies and manpower
Hey cappy do a series about rocket artilleries from around the world like us, uk , germany,russia,china,india etc.. it would be great to know about them...
NAMMO Ramjet 155mm Artillery is being designed for a range of 150 KM or 92 miles.
13:14 you welcome
i hate break it up to you guys but a country can not invade his own territory, even the U.S. recognize taiwan as a part of china, at least "de iure". We all know that "de facto" is another matter...
ok CCP bot
I'm a 567lbs autistic with three moms. I recently joined the US Army and got promoted to Navy Seal due to inclusion and diversity.
Gerald Bull was Canadian 🇨🇦.
It had nothing to do with the Americans.