Review of WIRED Cruiser 60 volt e-Bike (This Thing is Crazy!)
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2023
- ***********UPDATE**********
My bike is equipped with a newer battery pack using Samsung cells where the old packs used LG. This requires the P5 setting in the computer to be changed to 8 from 16 which is default. This appears to have resolved the freezing speedometer as well as the battery meter inaccuracy.
Thanks for the comments letting me know to make this change.
In this video I'm doing a review of my WIRED Cruiser E-bike. This bike is class leading with its 60 volt system, 1200 watt hour battery, and 40amp controller. Watch to find out if this is the bike for you!
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************UPDATE***********
My bike is equipped with a newer battery pack using Samsung cells where the old packs used LG. This requires the P5 setting in the computer to be changed to 6 from 16 which is default. This appears to have resolved the freezing speedometer as well as the battery meter inaccuracy.
P5. 6. new. setting
You're right thats what I have mine set to now. I will update this comment, thanks @@timothywarehime5956
Great great great video! Was listening and sometimes watching while I was delivering uniforms on my route today… your comments echo my thoughts on riding a e-bike… just purchased my wife’s and mine three months ago and man we feel like kids again… looking for trails and discovering places I would have never seen before.. very inspiring video for people who have never tried an e-bike.. thanks for your video.. I just arrived at my first stop of the morning…👍🏻
Its great isn't it? I've noticed a lot of older couples out riding e-bikes on the trails and I think that is so cool. Really makes it accessible for more people. I tell most people that will listen that they should get one ASAP lol. Thanks for watching
I agree on the pedal assist set up on this.....much more smooth for sure. Nice review. I absolutely love my WIRED bike, delivered last month and I've been using it like crazy.
Its a much better approach imo. Same with me, I've been riding this bike daily, its a lot of fun. They are pretty practical so you end up finding reasons to go ride huh? lol
Haha...absolutely! @@shootthechit
Thanks for the math lesson homie. I struggled with figuring out volts and watt on ebikes. Keep up the good work. Very informative.
Can’t wait to get my wired freedom in November it looks like a great e-bike for pedaling around my country town thanks for sharing your info on the bike and your experience with it keep the videos coming bro
Great video my man. Appreciate seeing a guy who rides respectfully doing a review. Subbbed.
OK, missed this video by you until now. Nice review. For some reason none of the other reviews I watched pointed out display of volts (or I didn't notice it anyways) which is important to me as the bar system always kind of sucks. You also did the best job explaining how Wired assist levels work. Now I'm subscribed, thanks.
I agree, the voltage is the most accurate way to track battery life. With a change in settings the bars on the display are now pretty accurate but there are only 4 so you don't have as much granularity , but its not bad.
This was so well filmed and narrated.
Hey man love your videos ,they are so funny.Glad to see you keep them light,but also very informative. Does the Wired ebike have Cruise Control,so you can set it and be free of having to hold the throttle at all times? Thanks
That's a good question, as far as I know it doesn't have cruise control or at least I'm not aware of how to activate it. Thanks for watching!
with those soft trail sides at 30 miles per hour, get some good gloves
Great review, brother 🎉
Waiting for my Wired Freedoms from the November shipment 💪🏼🔥💪🏼
Awesome review man . I got a new freedom coming in October . I ride to work . Have an awful swagtron eb12 now . Looking forward to this thing !!
Oh wow, you are in for quite the upgrade!
This is a solid af review. Would love to see you do a similar review on the Annioki A8 pro max.
One of the better reviews I've seen. Bummer it's not a great climber as I live in a really hilly area. You think the new model is any better with the updated sprocket? Also I'm debating between the Freedom and Cruiser. I like not having to deal with a rear suspension but I'll be riding with my dog and it would be nice not to jar him around. I wonder if a good seat suspension would come close to the rear shock in terms of smoothness.
Cool video - Thanks.! I've got a 2024 Wired Cruiser coming in November - Can't wait.! I would strongly suggest getting yourself some FlatOut in those tries. It's by far the best flat tire solution out there, in my opinion.
Good review STC
Good job
Great video. This has helped me narrow down some of these bikes. Have you any opinion on the popular Magicycle E-Bikes?
I think the Magicycle looks decent, but I would get an Ariel Rider before going that route.
Aron finally won a race.
Ooooh. I'm telling him you said that
great vid, im in the market and so far this the one (with rear shock) thanks for the vid
They are hard to beat for these style of E-bikes that for sure.
Dang you were going hecka fast!
FLYING down the bike trails
I have the Cruiser August shipment with the Samsung Battery. i talked to the onwers and they said try the P5 setting at 6 so thats what I did and it's great, very correct reading !!!
Interesting, what was yours set to when you got it? Mine has the Samsung cells and is accurate with the P5 setting at 8. Does your rear brake squeal?
@@shootthechit After I went through the update from the email that was sent out the setting went to 8. I texted Steve to see if the P5 setting should now be 8 or 16. He texted me back and said to put it at 6 so that's what I did and its worked great!!
Interesting. Mine seems pretty accurate at 8, it always matches the same amount of bars the battery pack displays if I press the button. @@breminnie
What kind of pedals did you replace with? I just ordered a Wired Freedom bike today. Great video I will check out more of your content 👍
I picked up a cheap pair on Amazon. Gewage is the brand. I think the newer bikes come with better wellgo brand pedals
@@shootthechitOhh ok I will have to wait to get my bike and check them out. Thx for the reply 👍
Great video!! way to put the pedal to the metal.
Totally agree with your use case!! I keep hearing mid drives are superior for climbing. Since you own both, can you show an incline where the Specialized can go where the Wired cannot using throttle or high pedal assist? The specialized I tried only gave you 2x assist. You had to really put in the work! Bet you put more miles on your Wired.
There are a few things that make the mid drive better. The bike is lighter in general and has way lower gearing. Some of the steeper hills you go on with that style of bike you end up creeping along at a pretty slow pace and since the mid drive is running the power through the drivetrain you get the benefit of being able to utilize the additional power with the lower gears. With the hub motor, since the power is generated in the rear independent of the gears, you really need some RPM to have usable power, so they do better at higher speeds.
Also, some of the super steep stuff I've seen, I wouldn't wanna end up there on the Wired lol. Wouldn't be fun getting back down. I have 4000 miles on the Specialized since 2020, but in a few weeks I almost have 300 on the Wired so I bet you're right about that.
@@shootthechitJust curious how much difference in hill climb between your three e bikes. It would make a good video. How tired would you be and at would speed would you climb that huge hill in your video on a mid drive?
Great Video! Do you think that the Tenure Foam Tire Iserts are lighter for wheel rotating weight and resistance than say using some sort of anti-flat liquid inside the Tubes for Flat tire Prevention? just wondering your thoughts on preventing flats as I'll prob be off roading alot like those trails your on as I live in the East Bay, similar terrain. Thank you!!! Will be getting a Freedom sometime this month!!! Happy February!!!!
PS Glad that you made it through the "Black Berry Boardwalk" without incident, plus you found your drone!!! BONUS!!! ; )
Oh, I should have watched the whole video before I commented on inserts... Hoping I can set bike set up for good hill climbing. I might even ditch the large chain ring for 40 tooth or so and just use throttle if need 35 mph on the flats.. I see you made it up that steep grade, I have lots of those where I'll be riding. lol
Interesting you mention this, because I do have a theory that the inserts are eating up some of the range. I'm going to switch to flat out and re-run a range test to see if that is the case. The inserts are nice for sure and gives you peace of mind while riding, but they are heavy (I would guess more than the liquid) and they add an additional layer of cushion, so no matter how high you inflate your tires, there is still going to be some give.
I see, that makes sense, prob does decrease range with inserts as adds more contact area between tire and ground. Could be good though on the dirt for better traction, more forgiving ride... less range though, and on the street might be more sluggish... But will be looking forward to your "Test"' Thanks for your response though. Might try the sealant first. I hate changing flats in the middle of a ride!!! Buzz kill.. lol.. ; )@@shootthechit
Especially changing flats on one of these bikes. Not something you wanna be doing in the field. These fat tires pick up a ton of stuff as well, pretty much have to have additional protection
@@Sherman1862
Thanks for the great review. I am looking for a bike that can go up a very steep hill i go up on almost all my rides. I have 2 Rads that don't do so well. Oh, wait a minute. You went up the same hill. I'm in Oakley. Any chance we could meet up and I could see if I'm gona fit on the Wired. Thanks again.
My girlfriend that is 5'1 was able to ride the bike but it was big for her. I would think if you're 5'8 or up the cruiser would be a decent fit
That specialized is a nice ass bike btw
nice review bud…. I’m 5’9 height and thinking getting the regular freedom. you think is not to high for me?thx
I couldn't say, never ridden the Freedom model. I would think as long as you don't have any mobility issues you could most likely make it work.
I AM 5^8^ 69 YEARS OLD AND 250 lbs.
I get on mine even though I also have a bad knee and some arthritis in both hips.
I keep my seat at its lowest setting and I can also sit on the seat with my feet nearly flat on the ground.
However, the 2024 W.F. is about 1 or 1.5 inches higher at the seat due to the mew style rear suspension.
My inseam is only about 30 inches so you may have more seat clearance than I do.
Did you up the setting on the display? There are (3) different setting you can change to get the max power out of the bike. CitizenCycle (on RUclips) maxed out the setting and was hitting 39 with just throttle on flat roads. Showing around 2200 watts peak. Oh - I think its literally impossible to accurately calculate range on these bikes. Many variables change it including a person's exact weight. Texture and type of ground plus any inclines or declines would alter the range as well.
OH yea, that was the first order of business when I got the bike. Changed the settings right away. I tried this morning and got 34 mph on throttle alone but that wasn't on 100% battery. I'm a bit heavier than him and I also had a backpack on so that might account for some of it. Either way these bikes are fast and a lot of fun.
Ok, great. The Cruiser is going to be my first eBike. Really looking forward to it. @@shootthechit
You will love it!@@Grevlain
I’m thinking you might have some settings incorrect on the display, I have the same version Wired cruiser and have not had issues with the speedometer sticking. The battery bar does take a couple minutes to calibrate after draining/charging up the battery. Mine will also show 2-3 bars after a full charge for maybe 2 minutes into riding then corrects. Make sure you changed settings for the new Samsung battery vs old LG. Wired sent an email about it, make sure your P5 is set to 8.
Interesting, I just looked at my battery and it does in fact say samsung on it, and my P5 is set to 16. When did you get the email? I've had the bike for 3 weeks now, pretty sure I never got an email. Thanks for the heads up
@@shootthechit I actually got the email before receiving my Cruiser in August. It was sent out to their general customer email list I think. Give that P5 setting change a try, should learn after a few minutes of riding and be more accurate for ya. Not sure what your Speedo sticking issue is but I suspect another setting might be incorrect or a loose connection somewhere.
OK, I made the change! Hoping my bike can do 200 mph now! @@FreakyT333
I HATE steep hills ⚠️ *lives on plateau
I use the Armor plus FlatOut with both of those you will never have a flat no matter what you run over ❤💯💢💫👍
How long have you had the tire armor inserts for? I was looking around and saw that some people said they flatten out after awhile and Tannus actually recommends that you deflate your tires every so often so they get their sponginess back. have you experienced any of that?
About 2 years along with the Flatout ,No Flats now for 2 years ,where I was having a flat once a month riding on the off road mountain Tweetsie Bike trail here in Eastern Tennessee @@shootthechit
Something to think about if you like to ride on the bike path where it's safe and not ride alongside automobiles you got to choose the right bike and this is not the right bike for riding bike paths
can you use walk mode for stairs, just wondering
I haven't tried, I would guess its probably possible but might be hard to control.
Sounds like an Indy car race
My rear brakes continually squeal also even after a couple hundred miles of riding and braking. And you are correct, it does need much lower gears......it's almost impractical to use just as a bike and no assist if you ever have an opportunity to want to pedal only. The speedometer does stick, so I just use an app on my phone for accurate speed, but when it's working, it is accurate.
I actually swapped my rear pads and it stopped the squeeling completely. It was really getting on my nerves. They are Tekro brand pads, but the compound is different. Good news is they are only 10 bucks on Amazon and super easy to swap out, took me 15 minutes. I also changed the P5 setting in my computer from 16 to 8 because my bike has the samsung battery cells and that looks to have fixed the sticking speedometer as well as the battery meter not being accurate. I'm going to make a follow up video at some point.
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Oh sweet....thanks for the info! I'll get those pads right away....I'll also change the P5 setting and see if that works.....will changing that setting affect anything else?@@shootthechit
If you take out your battery pack it will say on it if its LG cells or Samsung. I think that P5 setting is only for Samsung cells. If you have LG, I would leave it at 16. Not sure what else that setting effects@@TheTaxreliever
Ok thanks! @@shootthechit
I probably have less than 50 miles on mine since late August and my brakes did squeal but it seems like they have stopped on their own.😊
I'm having a tough time choosing between this and the wired freedom. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Honestly I dont think you can go wrong with either, but I would lean toward the Freedom at this point, but keep in mind I haven't ridden one yet. Cruiser is easier to get on and off of so it would be better for female or smaller riders.
Thanks. I was leaning twords the freedom myself. The 2024 updated model looks amazing.
Bro go into settings change the P5 from 16 to 8. That will fix your battery meter your wired comes with a Samsung50E battery now. 🍻
Thanks, Someone else mentioned that earlier so that change has been made as of now. Hopefully that fixes the issue, even though I'm OK with just looking at the voltage now.
E-bikes help people that may be handicapped or out of shape to get out and enjoy nature
Totally, almost every time I'm out I see older couples on the trails with e-bikes. Thats pretty cool to see because chances are they wouldn't be out there on regular bikes. Great way to keep people active
Not necessarily, a long time ago i used a normal bike to go to work and back, but having 12h shifts really makes you tired, + ride home on bike, so i would get back home super tired, now that i got ebike i go to work less tired because i dont need to pedal that hard, and after work i just use pas + throttle, saying that its for handicapped is completely nonsense is basically saying that people who are using automatic car transmission is handicapped also since no need to use shifting and clutch
I think he means e-bikes help make biking accessible for people who have disabilities, not that riding one is cheating. @@Krahamus
Behind your controller screen there is a usb port🍻
Use walk mode to change gears at low speed.
My p5 on the freedom was set to 6. That right?
According to a comment someone left recently, it sounds like they are now recommending 6 for the P5 setting, but I'm not 100% sure.
where do you live with such terrain?
I live about 40 miles east of San Francisco
Cool bike but watts vary between type of motor. Ie a 1500 watt mid drive would perform way different than a 1500 watt hub..and the internal gearing ratios matter too
I would be interested to try a high powered mid drive. Those don't seem to be very common in bicycles, unless you go to the Sur Ron or Talarias.
@@shootthechit I think surron and talaria are both mid drives (they pull the chain). The onyx is what comes to mind for a high powered hub(both rcr and cty2). And the metacycle e motorcycle is a hub too
Oh nvm I thought you were asking for a high powered hub. Biktrix has a powerful new mid drive (I think it’s biktrix)
On the Specialized I've broken the rear derailer once, replaced the chain maybe 4-5 times, and changed the cassette twice. Granted I have around 4000 miles on it now, but I would bet a high powered mid drive would wreak havoc on a traditional bike drive train. I bet at some point we will see higher powered mid drives come with belts and rear hub transmissions (not sure what they are officially called) @@slimdunkin117
Well he said a test at the end I had to let you go because I I fell test 😊
What does Blanka think about it?
😂
I'm 6ft 6 you think i'd be comfortable on it
I think you would be OK on one. These are pretty big bikes and I just checked and the seat post can go up another inch or so from where I have mine set.
Dual motor hub is the best
Haven't ridden a dual motor bike, doesn't it feel really heavy in the front?
ive been riding fat tires since 20 17, i got a flat once summer 2020, but that was the only time and I don't run liners or any of that stuff. But I came from a mountain bike and background when we only put between six to ten pounds of air😂 fat tire ebikes are invented and kids start putting 25-30 lb of air, worrying about flats, putting liners and slime and all kinds of weird stuff, don't need none of that, the tires are too heavy as it is, just keep the air pressure below 15 lb, And chao yang area pretty good.
I've had mine for 3 weeks now and had 1 flat, but it was due to a nail. I know on my 29" MTB I have a tubeless setup and seen quite a few things puncture the tires but the sealant did its job. I totally just assumed with the larger tires these things would pick up thorns much easier so I didn't want to take that chance. I guess it largely depends on where and how you ride as well. I keep this one at 15psi as well. 25-30 would be scary lol
@@shootthechit sounds like just bad luck, although I don't know how they hold up against goat head thorns.(I'm in the Northeast for now)I have that same Mozo Fork on one of my electric bikes, I like it, it's not a Fox, Manitou, or Rock Shox, but I ride the same diamond trails with it, it's pretty stiff not too much flex, a little chattery but better than a Suntour.
OH yea, thats probably a big part of it. I live in Northern California and there are goat heads all over the place here. Those things are the worst. I agree about the shock, overall its fine but nothing to rave about. It works well for what type of terrain most people will probably ride these bikes on. The one thing I notice is its easier to get yourself into a situation where this shock will bottom out due to the speed of the bike, but that comes down to situational awareness imo@@bassw1758
Interesting, mine has never bottomed out, I have the one they make for the Ecotric bike, but its on a Mongoose Juneau, with the 1000w Bafang hub motor kit. I itake it down hill off jumps all the stuff it says not to do on the sticker. I much rather have the Manitou, but that's a grand after you convert to a thru-axle, and change the headset, I still may do it one day. I can't find anything in between
Easily the fastest step thru ebike thats “legal” looking.
I will buy it from you if it's fine and you can ship to europe please cause they don't ship to europe and its no where to find at a third party .
I went with a ketels k800 pro for $1300. I wanted a 2000w dual hub bike for my big hills near me. If this company ever makes a dual hub bike I would jump on it.
First time hearing about that brand. Haven't ridden a dual hub bike as of yet, curious to how it feels. In theory I think I would like a single motor better to keep the front of the bike lighter to go up curbs etc but not sure how it works out in practice. I'm sure you will like it a lot, you really can't go wrong with a lot of these bikes
Bummer all new bikes come with better suspension and more upgrades. The Freedom model. People just getting theirs a few weeks ago got old models.
I am one of the fortunate unfortunates . Yeah I’d be steamed . It’s usually me . Glad to be winning for once 😇
I like mine. August '23.
Although there are changes, (some are improvements, others, well?)
I like the rear suspension change, but I can just get my feet almost flat when sitting on the seat now.
The new model is 1 to 1.5 inches taller and I would probably have a harder time handling it and getting on and off of it.
Metal fenders might or might not be better, but I like that my front fender is longer than the new one.
Battery is different, but is it better?
Front fork may be better now, but mine does the job.
56 tooth front is slightly better, but is it THAT much better than 52?
I like how my rear rack is attached better than the new(old?) design.
It seems stronger and not coming into one attachment placing.
I'm happy with my older design.😊 31:58
@@johnforbes9007 I would take an older one too.. Not a deal breaker at all.
THAT is not a eMTB, so might as well put road tires on it, so it can get decent range for the battery size. It can go 40 mph or so; much more like a motorcycle; so it's not really safe to drive without a full face helmet, and a cycle jacket and pants. Good luck taking it on trails; it weighs 100 lbs. Meanwhile, it would be way more fun if it was a mid-drive. The new mid-drives have both throttles, and gear sensors; to cut motor power during shifting. Works great. And mid-drives climb hills WAY FASTER.
My brother has a mid drive Trek 29 inch and I have my Wired Freedom.
We take them off road in the woods of Central PA. coal country. Shamokin/ Coal Twp.
His is better for going through the forest passes hardly wider than a deer path because of his torque sensor.
We raced up a 3/4 mile long, steep road and he kept up fairly well till he started getting winded.
He is an avid biker with years of experience, while I just got back on a bike recently with buying my Freedom.
We are both retired and I'm almost 70 and 250 lb.
He is 66 and in much better shape than I am.
That is why I got this type of bike instead of like his.
Like ancient Rome, Shamokin is also a city on seven hills and I've taken mine up a few good ones from a stop and kept at least 14 mph on the worst one. These hills were several blocks long.
I don't agree with this not being good on steep hills
I enjoyed your video and wish we had bike paths here like you have in your area.
I think the bike does well on most hills, but starts to suffer on really steep hills if you don't use the higher assist levels like 4 or 5. Where I think the mid drive bikes do better is when you're crawling up a hill at 4 or 5 mph and have to use really low gears as the rear hub motor doesn't allow for the power to be routed through the drivetrain. With the Wired bike you have to keep your speed up to have usable power, it doesn't do well under 10mph imo, but in all honesty you will be able to climb enough hills to get yourself in plenty of trouble lol
By buying this bike realize what you are getting into. It is not quite a bicycle in a traditional sense - it does not feel like one - it does the job for you when pedal assist is on, and you can hardly move the thing when pedal assist is off. It is quite noisy, heavy and fragile at the same time. If you in the middle of nowhere would get a flat then you are stuck, you will not be able to move it much - may be a 0.25 of a mile if you are in good shape, but that is all. Be careful turning it upside down for repairs or tunning, you can damage it by its own weight, or you can damage your own back. Yes it is quite powerful, has decent battery life, feels very stable on the road and has sufficient breaking power, but do not assume you are getting a great bargain - when manufactured properly the thing would cost 5 grand or more, so expect overall material and manufacturing shortcomings - spongy breaks, easily puncturable tires, wobbly derailleurs, etc. Gen yourself tire repair kit, portable pump and basic repair tools and generally be quite gentle with the bike - in spite of its tuff looks it feels more like speedy lead marshmallow than a tank.
I have one at home and over time I’ve beat the thing to crap so I think it can handle some tools 😂. I have never gotten a flat on a e bike. It’s also not that heavy it’s like 88 pounds and on wheels it’s not terribly difficult to move and most e bikes have walk assist.
Clearly you don’t own one. Built like a tank. Brakes are great. Big brands spend a lot on marketing and overhead and you are welcome to bend over and pay.
Wipe the rotors with alcohol.
I tried that twice. Didn't seem to help, I'm guessing the pads were contaminated causing the squealing
That bike is illegal to use on public roads
They are gonna have to catch me first
@shootthechit so your saying if they dont catch you it's okay to engage in criminally dangerous activity?
@johnrob3215 Absolutely I am. I try and commit at least one crime a day, it helps me feel young. As a matter of fact the bike I used in this review is stolen. I'm writing this comment while driving a motor vehicle going 10 over the speed limit too.
@@shootthechit can I call you Jeff?
@@johnrob3215Your car is illegal if driven above the speed limit, should all car have speed limiters? Do you mind if I call you Karen?