I think she will be an antihero on this story. She seems angered by the "terrible things that have happened" and wants justice. To "set things right" as she says, she will need someone who is capable. Seems like a complex character that can be manipulative, cold blooded and cunning, but in her mind the ends will justify her means
@@seamsungg yeah. Altho she can mean an entirely different thing by "set things right". I've heard someone claiming she wants a human body back, and seeks to lure the player to some machine eventually, and transfer herself back into a human form. And possibly other toys too. It's a bit far fetched lol, but as she said, she has been stuck in that case for so long.
I believe that they learned their mistake with Huggy and made his "better half" by not giving Missy full control of her arms, I honestly don't think she'll be able to attack at all. She also seems more aware? She takes time to study the player and decide on whether to help. I agree that she definitely seems like she'd be another employee and not an orphan.
@@Apple-vk3fi No you're right, I literally thought about putting in an edit saying that nothing is inherently wrong with huggy because he's built as he is meant to be, being a security "system", he isn't even meant to be active for the children (or anyone else for that matter) to see.
So by what you’re say this game js basically a mix of FNAF and BATIM with the toys being the bodies and or souls of the workers but then some have orphans they find inside as well? So maybe Huggy is not actually a worker but a random kids soul?
@@bendyinkdemon3094 Well that's what it seems like atleast, they definitely were testing kids for some reason. I'm not 100% sure on the staff thing, but from this video it definitely seems like some of the "experiments" aren't kids, like mommy for instance.
Mentioning the eyes, maybe you have noticed how almost if not every toy that is "murdered " across the hallways with slashes and have their eyes taken, not any eye is left around near the toy corpses, maybe thats a key part that the Prototype is after and Poppy having actual real eyes from our perspective in comparison to the other toys encountered makes her more vital for the prototype's experiment and Popy knows or suspects this, giving her the idea to make the player her ally to ruin his plans but also gain something from both. Maybe what the Prototype is building is not just his own body but a recreation of a human body with parts of flesh stolen from the other toys ( I noticed when the Claw crawled in one of the videos, that the forearm part had real bones to replace metal) And when that presumed body is finished both the prototype and Poppy would fight for it .
It’s funny, contrary to how everyone seems to react to poppy’s monologue at the end, I never real thought of it as to pointing her to be evil. Morally questionable, yes. Manipulative, yes. But evil, no. She seems to have a legitimate drive to repair the damage done in this factory. We just happen to be the tool she needs
i 100% agree and to add to this while also answering the question from the video: Poppy realizes by the end of chapter 2 how valuable the protagonist is because to save her we were put through the same 3 tests that the orphans had to go thru. ( And we passed with flying colors) I feel like this directly ties into her "personality switch up" at the end there. You can definitely tell she had a change of plans that now included us (the protagonist). I honestly believe she was being sincere when she said "you're gonna have to trust me."
Where did u find the deleted voice lines? Edit: alright guys I already know The reason why I asked is because at the time when I searched there wasn't any video about poppy's deleted voice lines. But now it's everywhere
You did it, against all odds! You defeated mommy! I was so scared she'd put me back in that case. But you freed me once again. You are perfect. Too perfect to lose. I’m sorry I cannot let you leave yet. I’ve never met anyone like you (giggles). You have the potential. I know you came to find the ones who disappeared all those years ago. But they’re gone. They’ve been gone for a long time. Do you know how long I have been stuck in that case? Well, too long. I had so much time to think and reflect, time to figure out exactly what I would do when free. We’ll set things right. Terrible things have happened, and I am the cause. Being able to exist as a doll,it has killed so many people. So much is unknown to you. Where do I even begin? But I know that whatever I need you to do, you can fix everything! I see it inside you. You are capable. This train is now heading towards playcare. It’s the best place to start looking. I will - - (Alarm Clock beeps). What - - What is - - Poppy (Full ending speech of Chapter 2)
Poppy changed her mind at the end and decided that the both of us can't leave the factory just yet. After learning of how capable we still are in the factory, she saw that there might be hope of helping the toys/orphans/staff after all, so she needs us to complete tasks that will hopefully result in the freedom of everyone in the factory. She's not evil(for now at least), she's just determined to make things right. Only then I think will we be free to go home and HOPEFULLY(I'm wishing with all my might on this one!) we'll take Poppy home with us.
@@Girono_Umbrell that's what I thought all of a sudden she go's from being joyful to just not has happy as before like her self she was so happy but at the end she seem to sad about the train thing 🤔
I kind of interpreted the real vs. conditioned personalities as opposite, that the more malicious personalities might be the real/original ones with the friendly personalities being the conditioned ones. My logic behind this is that the real personalities are traumatized and morally eroded while the conditioned ones are the most ideal for the everyday public. This leads the question as to why, and I think it's either for the sake of psychological warfare or simply with the aspiration of the toys being able to help any child they could belong to through any difficult childhood traumas they may be going through (like if a child happens to have a huggy doll but that child has an abusive homelife and the huggy doll's sentience allows it to be more helpful to the child) or warfare in allowing the forms of toys to be soldiers in war and conflict getting into enemy households as toys.
If you ask me, Poppy’s behavior strikes me as “every doll for herself” at the start. She tells the Player to wake up, maybe as a thank you for freeing her, before immediately running off and trying to get out of the factory. When you show up to make things a bit easier for her, she probably decides just before being abducted that maybe she can team up with you to escape after all. Yeah, I kinda have to agree with a few others here: She’s not evil (not that we know of yet), she just realized that there might actually be a chance to take 1006 down for good. If anything, her monotone voice when we rescue her strikes me as remorseful, not wanting to stay and keep you here but also not wanting to pass up the opportunity.
Yeah, her voice at the end sounds like she is in conflict with herself, she knows that both of you want to escape, but she also knows that you're the only one that has a chance of ending the horror that Playtime'Co has before it escapes.
I find it surprising how no one besides Game Theory has noticed that it isn't just soul-play involved in the toymaking process at Playtime Co....these humans have almost definitely had not only their souls but their bodies converted into these toy bodies through some bizarre scientific experiments. I mean, look at what we've seen so far: all over the place there are scrapped toys lying in puddles of blood, for starters. But more tellingly, look at Huggy Wuggy and Mommy Long Legs - Huggy has a gaping maw with very-visible saliva - something I'm pretty sure an inorganic body couldn't produce - and when we defeat him and send him hurtling into that deep pit, he smacks his head on a couple of pipes on the way down, leaving bloody marks behind. Then, when we defeat Mommy and she gets dragged into that grinder, we can see that she bleeds as her torso is crushed, and, when you slow the scene down, turn up the brightness and look *very* closely, you can even catch a glimpse of internal organs. Even Poppy herself; in her trailer when her battery is removed, we can see that it's dripping with blood, and her eyes, as Tericho said, look too real; I'm willing to bet that they ARE real. Like, who decides to put capillaries on a doll's eyes??? And I haven't even mentioned all the hidden notes in the first trailer about the experiments having functional digestive systems. No, these aren't just haunted toys. These are actual living and breathing organic creatures, which in a sense makes the game all the more terrifying. Again, I'm just surprised how barely anyone has touched on this.
I’ve talked about this a bunch. I mentioned this way back in one of my original theories when talking about the dolls around the factory containing blood. The problem is, we don’t know the exact process yet. It could literally be a demonic ritual for all we know at this point.
Right? Everyone keeps saying “souls” like they’re the haunted FNAF animatronics. No I’m pretty sure their literal human brains have been shoved inside these artificial bodies.
I think poppy changes her tone because she was probably told by mommy long legs that the player will not be able to make it out of her tests to save poppy cause they were rigged from the jump. When the player DOES make it, poppy realizes time is of the essence and cannot afford to be jovial with the player. She can probably sense that exp. 1006 is out on the prowl and that she needs to hurry. It may even have been 1006 or some other character we havent met yet that snatched poppy off the train as she was speaking at the end of the chapter. The fact we crash near the ‘playcare’ indicates to me that we may see an enemy similar to the daycare attendant from fnaf security breach with split personalities and behavior patterns depending on whether the lights are on or off
If you listen to the dialogue at the beginning she says “listen, I need you to trust me.” As if she was about to tell us about not leaving and the train and this and that, but mommy interrupted, though I just think this.
@@TehDJGoofy i think she was just going to tell the player to jump into the gaping hole mommy pulled her down into, seeing as you had to slide down there to progress to the area with the train
@@Myhandle372 true, it could’ve went like this, “I need you to trust me, go down this hole, it’ll descend us deeper into the factory” or something like that
Maybe... though she sounds really dead when she says the lines, asking "did you kill her? Good. I'll board the train now. We must go." It sounds like she's a zombie. She asks if we killed MLL and then says "good" in a dead robotic tone. And why would she say "I'll board the train now" then follow it with "We must go?" Why not just say, "we must go" if she was really insistent we get going? Her saying she'll board the train feels like an unnecessary detail she's slipped in or rather someone else has made her say to sound normal.
I think the main problem with this theory is that mommy long legs doesn't really show any signs of having different personalities. Her behavior is pretty consistent. And besides that, the file says nothing about conditioning. It just says that the children calm her down. It also says she hates the staff and that she'll attack them if they get too close. And our character used to work at the factory.
I have a theory on when poppy was taken by Mommy Long Legs after we crushed her with the machine poppy was more cold being said that would give us some theory's onto why Poppy got so cold and wanted the protagonist to stay because they were to perfect aditionally adding onto that we see that Poppy was stuck in webs of some sort and the protagonist helps her she seems really different in our perspective Poppy might have been tortured by Mommy because in the end of chapter one Poppy says "Mommy doesn't like guests" it explicitly explains to us she doesn't want us here and another type of theory instead of Poppy being tortured by Mommy she might have been controlled by Mommy and we all know that the toys are actual people and none of them have real eyes but poppy does I think the first person who commented are correct about the prototype taking their eyes and other parts to create itself a body and I think that the prototype is after Poppy next trying to get her eyes but her eyes are real so they are from an actual person so when someone was getting experimented they took the peoples eyes and put them in the toys but they were taken bye that entity called the prototype so yuh
If anything, Mommy Long Legs is displaying sociopathic behavior. She seems to take pleasure with the idea of the protagonist suffering. After all, she does mention if he doesn't get in line she'll eat his organs while he's still alive. The switch described is actually what is called murder eyes. Cat's do this when they focus in on prey, moments before striking. Which means she's dead set on killing the protagonist. But all will be revealed by the end, so I'm not saying he's wrong
There was also something else that make me think that this theory as a bit shaky. 1. Poppy change in personality was before she got kidnap. Saying "You need to trust me" in a monotone voice similar to when you rescue her in the end. 2. Before you enter the room with the big hole, you can hear Poppy humming with an echoing effect as if she was in the vents, but when you open the door, she's in the middle of the room while the echoing humming is still there. What's more she's looking away from you like it's hiding the fact that that Poppy isn't actually humming. 3. Unless I miss it, there was no vent in that room with the hole, despite the fact the Poppy was travelling around using the vents. All this suggest that this is not the real Poppy, but maybe a prototype of Poppy. None of this necessary suggest that the condition theory is wrong, but I think that Poppy's change in personality is because this is not the same Poppy, but possibly be a Poppy that fail to replicate the person that the creator wanted to bring back.
I don't think Poppy is evil, even after chapter two's ending. She betrayed us by keeping us there, sure, but she has a pretty good reason. She wants us to stop the horrors that are happening in the factory, and she was probably too scared to just ask because we used to work there. Also, her behavior at the beginning might be explained by the case. We don't know exactly how long she was in there, just that it was a long time. She probably didn't even know what state the factory was in and was discovering some of the true horrors for the first time right along side us. She had some pretty first hand experience on how bad it was when she was taken by Mommy Long Legs, seeing the state of her mind and how violent the toys are. She probably had the full intention of escaping with us like she said at the beginning, but then she realized how bad it was and decided she had to try and stop it, and in her tiny doll body, she can't do it alone. That's my theory anyway, we'll find out more about in chapter three I'm sure but until then, this is what I believe.
i actually like this theory and it makes SENSE!! it explains why her tone was so happy and eager in the beginning to being scarred and kinda angry near the end. bravo on the theory!!
For kissy missy I feel like back then she was programmed to be kind and friendly especially around the staff [and children of course]. So I think when Kissy missy saw us, they knew we used to be one of the staffs-
Personally I believe that Long Legs doesn’t really have a split personality. Previous interactions with her show that her happy, caring and “Baby talk” voice and persona is an act, this is especially noted after you beat the whack a Wuggy game. She seems to force herself to retain her childish personality to congratulate us and give up the code. This is further supported by the statues game, where it becomes clear that she had no intentions of just giving up the third code, as she begs the player to come back up and in return she would hold up her end of the game. And when she realizes that her motherly nature won’t work on us anymore, she gets angry, but never completely drops the motherly facade when with us, which could be attributed to her conditioning having a permanent effect on her mannerisms. As for her eyes, if you examine more closely you can see that her irises are still green, meaning her eye change is simply due to her pupils dilating. As for Poppy, I think she wants justice of some sort for what happened at the factory all those years ago, and realizing she can’t do it herself, she’s forcing us to do so. Basically an “the ends justify the means” situation.
I believe it’s her realizing a few things - (1) she’s a really small and ‘normal’ toy, so the things she can do is very limited compared to the others. (2) She saw all the feats the player has done, and because of the first point she doesn’t want to lose her best chance at getting the job done.
@@alexjewett7455 Why would poppy just straight up tell the player "Hey can you like go deeper into the factory, stop the prototype and set every wrong in this factory right?", anyways? I mean the player clearly wanted to get out and plus the only thing they were told to was to just find the flower and that's it nothing more so it was her instinct that told her to just get to the point.
READ THE TEST SUBJECT FORM AT 9:04 ! If you read the very last line you can see them talking about something inside statues, and as the writer is finishing the sentence, the pen appears to drag off the page asif the writer was snatched
i theorised that this could be mommy long legs killing the staff - because mommy mentions to us when we are in statues that we deserve to die alone because we once worked there. In another note theres also said that mommy is very hostile towards the staff. it could be that mommy tries to stop the experiments and tries to save the children.
Wow! I didn’t notice that, good eye! This probably confirms that whatever happened inside the factory to make it shut down, happened during testing. Very interesting…
I went back to look and you’re right. I also noticed that the grading seems a bit off. The kid is rated per “game” on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 seeming to be the highest, based off the first game’s explanation of “very accurate and fast, few mistakes”, but she’s rated a 4 on the third game with nothing but complaints about focus rather than a 2 or 1 where the pen drags off
So there's been some thoughts going through my head after your playthrough of Poppy Playtime and I'd like to share them. My main issue is who wrote the letter. We've assumed that Poppy must have wrote it, after all the message asks us to "find the flower". But here's my issue. How could Poppy ever be able to write the letter, while in the form of coma/stasis. Not to mention that the language she is using doesn't seem to be that of a child's. Assuming the flower in the message is the drawn flower outside Poppy's room, then the one who wrote this letter was someone who's associated with Poppy in some form or another. Now, I've got 2 guesses. One is that the write is actually Kissy Missy and the other is experiment 1006 . Kissy Missy: We know that Playtime Co. has been experimenting on children, turning them into toys. We also know that the children were given toys to bond with. The stronger the bond, the better their affiliation with the character the toy represents. Thus the more successful the transformation of the children to the toys and the characters they represent. We've assumed that the letter was written by a child, wishing for people to come to the abandoned factory. That's because of the use of ALL capitals and the grammar misteikes. So what if the one who wrote this is Kissy Missy, who is friendly enough and doesn't seem to wish to be an obstacle for the player? She in fact was helpful towards us. And from what we know, she wasn't confined anywhere like Poppy. Not to mention that the message states that the Staff[We] is still in the factory. Why would Poppy call herself a part of the Staff instead of someone who had been working in the factory. Exp.1006: We know that experiment 1006(I will call be calling him Ex6 from now on) is a very brutal experiment. He has killed guards, attacked personnel and is probably responsible for the deaths of many of the toys. He also wants to escape and is extremely intelligent. If he wanted to attract someone, he could probably write a letter. As for the mistakes, I believe they are intentional. We all assumed that it's a child's writing but what if Ex6 did this on purpose to make us, the player, or whomever else believe that the ones that are stuck there are children? We learn from Mammy Long Legs that the player used to be an employee there. We don't know whether or not we were sinister, only that we used to work here. And since your theory of us being toys seems to be correct, we could assume that we are like Mammy Long Legs [An employee that worked with children or was aware of their existence]. Thus seeing an innocent message like this, would make us think that there are children in danger. And that would only lead to us being caught in Ex6's Web. It is either using us to escape or to become stronger or even to defeat some obstacles like Huggy Waggy and MLL. Of course, there is a chance that Ex6 was not expecting us to defeat Huggy Waggy, but instead hoped that we'd die trying to collect our dead bodies. In other words, Ex6 and Kissy Missy were free to roam the facility(and find the necessary tools to write the letter) and do seem to have a goal in mind by reaching Poppy.
When you hear poppy get interrupted near the end you hear an alarm clock so I think experiment 1006 is to blame for it maybe needing poppy for something
Here’s my theory personally: in playtime for the ‘toys’ have the consciousness of children (their consciousness were transferred after experiments were done to see who was best fit) and then very traumatic eprermients were done for a very long time, now when you look at it most toys seem to have multiple personalities and depending on the ages these experiments started this could have caused these children to from DID or OSDD which would explain why they all have multiple personalities that can be triggered by multiple things. Example: mommy long legs. With her you can see her personality completely change depending on the person near by and if you check her file you can see she is very friendly and motherly to the children and other experiments but can be VERY hostile to staff and after ‘conditioning’ had happened (I assume putting them through shit till they get their act together) more ‘personalities’ were created. It would make a lot of sense these children became systems with their trauma Because these ORPHANS already had trauma when they came, were consantly under supervision and put through a lot of testing then they were put through the traumatic experience of having their consciousness transferred into toys and then were put through even more that is currently unknown but we can assume it wasn’t pretty. Not to mention after every employee was killed these toys were abandoned for many years where we don’t exactly know what happened. This could have caused more trauma to them and made more alters. This would explain why in chapter 2 poppy was very cheerful and very childlike(could have been a system little) but by the end, after she was kidnapped by mommy long legs and put through a traumatic event, she was very dark and serious which was a complete personality change from who she was at the beginning
My personal thoughts from a comment on another of your videos go as such: Huggy-Wuggy ONLY got aggressive when you tried to go further into the building, thus attempting to stop you. It's possible that all the toys share the same understanding that Experiment 1006 MUST NOT be let out, and they think (though aren't 100% sure) you're trying to do just that. Kissy-Missy didn't attack because of a single factor (in my opinion anyway) she had a belief that Mommy Long-Legs would be the one to stop you, allowing her to get back to her duty of making sure Experiment 1006 wasn't getting out. Finally Mommy Long-Legs screamed and pleaded with you when she was getting grinded, and said "Don't let me become part of him!" before dying. It's plausible to think that the other toys and the children who didn't survive the process understood the danger of what 1006 was and is. My personal theory is that within the toys there's a permanent struggle going on within them for control; the side that is programmed to stop Experiment 1006 from getting out by any means necessary, the human part of them that just wants to leave (most prevalent in Poppy, so far) and the "battle" when they're freaking out and can't decide which side is in control.
And the player might be the one to stop 1006 and no doubt die in the process Probably become a toy and at the same time, a symbol of light, the one who ended 1006
Here's an interesting question: We opened the case, but who shoved aside that blockage so we could reach the door? And how did Poppy get on the other side of the door? She'd be too small to reach the handle and open it. Clearly Mummy Long Legs DEFINATELY didn't want to help us - so who did it and then disappeared without harming Poppy or us? Poppy was awake so only she would have seen and known - and she said nothing. On a different track: Poppy was produced on a toyline. I don't see an established timeline where Poppy production ceased. There's no way to tell just how many Poppy's could actually still be inside this factory.
Mm I firmly believe Kissy Missy is the only known _good_ character in the game. I hate MOB games because of the awful things they’ve done to fans and more, but I must admit their workers know exactly how to make a compelling and interesting story
@PG Animation Studios How would Poppy reach any vents in that room? She's extremely small. And even if she did somehow access the vents, that still doesn't explain how the door was suddenly cleared so we could access it after we opened her case. Poppy would need PHENOMENAL strength to have shifted the obstruction to reveal the door to us.
@@moistwrmonastring1017 Agree on both counts. Kissy Missy did seem to have difficulty using her hand to move the lever for us further into the game, but carrying Poppy could make that possible.
@@moistwrmonastring1017 Kissy Missy is just like Huggy Wuggy, we only seen Kissy once yknow. But I 100% agree MOB games is horrible company, but they make a decent horror story
@@DiscoTimelordASD in the game there was an mention that huggy wuggy is realy obedient what if kissy missy is as well so my theory is that huggy is obedient to the weird hand creature and kissy is to poppy so it culd be posible she was sent to hellp us by poppy
Personally, I reckon that Poppy was going to fully explain herself and her plan during the "I'm going to need you to trust me" bit right before she was pulled into the hole, but after being stuck with Mommy Long Legs and fully knowing what's going on in the toy factory, stuff that we as the player haven't fully grasped yet, she becomes desperate and more serious to complete her mission, regardless of what happens to the player or how they feel about it. As for Mommy's personality shift, I watched several other playthroughs of the chapter, and to me it always felt like she was just putting on a fake persona of a friendly happy-go-lucky person whilst occasionally letting little bits of her true self out. The "I'll eat your guts while you're still alive" threat being a little tease of what's to come, and during the statues game she literally says that because the player worked at the factory they deserved to die, and when the player failed to properly end the game the way she wanted it to, you can hear her trying to maintain that persona while also trying not to snap into her real crazy self, which does happen when the player doesn't go back to her and she finally catches up.
For Mommy, the eyes and her hands change with changing to her "mad and angry" form. When in happy form she has a kind of "normal" fingers But when she turns into her mad form, her fingers become long and strong to catch her "prey" faster and with more strength
I hope you get your camera soon. I can't wait to see what will happen in Chapter 3, as well as who's gonna be the next big bad? 🤔 Edit: 5:50, When you look at Poppy's eyes, it looks like they've changed.
Does Poppy have a more... highly saturated colour palette by the end of the chapter or is the lighting just really different for the comparison images? To me it looks like she has redder hair as well by the end (her dress seems a bit more blue too). The only reason I ask is that I don't know if there are other Poppy dolls out there, but if there are, is it possible that our Poppy got swapped for another, by Mommy or somebody or somebody else, and left there for us? Because that would explain things if it isn't just the lighting making her look more saturated to me. She's a newer doll, so her colours are brighter due to the current lack of wear and tear.
i feel like their more aggressive personalities would be their original ones, because similar to the animatronics in sister location, these are people who have been trapped and isolated for years and wouldn’t be able to re-enter society even if they wanted to, but because mob games has already been accused of plagiarism i doubt the end of the game will be like the ending of sister location, and the toys are most likely just trying to kill you as a way of getting revenge on one of employees that trapped them in the dolls to begin with
Thank you for pointing out how real her eyes look and how they change. In every video I've watched I always rewind and compare to make sure I wasn't crazy. I also feel like the line in the tapes about how obedient Huggy Wuggy is can relate to how/why he helped with the key in the first game then attacked us later. Maybe Kissy missy is the same way and they both were under orders by something else to 'help' us.
...did no one notice her hair got longer?! With the side by side comparison for the eyes you see the pigtails and the lock of hair are quite a bit longer. My guess is the second poppy is a later version and the poppy we free is probably the first.
Minitheory: Huggy is a security guard. In the last tape of chapter 2, they say that he is the most obedient experiment. In the first tape in chapter 1, they say that they have lots of surprising security measures. Since Huggy was a successful experiment, just like mommy, he may have gotten a duty in the factory, and it could have been guarding it. Also, huggy has the factory key and the alarms start going off when you see him.
The ending was actually foreseen from Chapter 1 from the screens, and desperation of Poppy to pop out from the screen dialogues. She shows the bond between you and her. She is trapped in the factory and wanting to escape. But her objectives differ when she somehow knew about the Prototype being unleashed, and wants to know more about the escaped experiment. After all, she was the first official experiment that was successful, as the first living doll. I think she is connected with the Prototype than what we think.
Two things I noticed: 1) Poppy’s bubbly voice and playful demeanor at the beginning of C2 was a noticeable contrast not only to the end of C2, but also the end of C1 after we free her. She sounded more somber and almost in disbelief when she says “you opened my case..” 2) I think there is something different about the history of the toys with human-like eyes vs the toys with eyes like Huggy’s and Kissy’s. For one thing, notice how during gameplay Mommy and Poppy talk but Huggy & Kissy don’t. Just some things I hadn’t heard discussion about and figured at least some other folks had to have picked up on. What do yall think??
i also tried playing and got to chapter 2 BUT when I saw poppy in the beginning her hair looked childish and innocent *THEN* when you see her near the end her hair is much more red and more copied for difference so I think idk if this is true BUT i have a theory poppy is still kidnapped and we freed the wrong poppy, if so maybe on the last chapter we find the real poppy so I hope you can use this info I learned to help with a theory for the last chapter!
Heres my theory toys have programs that make them be nice but over time they get more sinister because the program isn't finished like huggy wuggy hes progam is done but for the other toys it isn't the same as him
I know the phrase "better half" is often just a term of endearment, but what if it's literal? What if she is literally the stronger, smarter and faster and overall better version of Huggy and will have a more premeditated and prolonged plan of attack and revenge? It would be very interesting narratively to have the first sentient toy be Huggy and have it come full-circle with Kissy Missy as the last sentient toy before confronting 1006.
Unused Poppy voice lines (source: discord) You did it, against all odds! You defeated mommy! I was so scared she'd put me back in that case. But you freed me once again. You are perfect. Too perfect to lose. I’m sorry I cannot let you leave yet. I’ve never met anyone like you (giggles). You have the potential. I know you came to find the ones who disappeared all those years ago. But they’re gone. They’ve been gone for a long time. Do you know how long I have been stuck in that case? Well, too long. I had so much time to think and reflect, time to figure out exactly what I would do when free. We’ll set things right. Terrible things have happened, and I am the cause. Being able to exist as a doll,it has killed so many people. So much is unknown to you. Where do I even begin? But I know that whatever I need you to do, you can fix everything! I see it inside you. You are capable. This train is now heading towards playcare. It’s the best place to start looking. I will - - (Alarm Clock beeps). What - - What is - - Poppy (Full ending speech of Chapter 2)
I wonder if there’s a ‘trigger’ for the personality switch? For example, Huggy changes into ‘security/intruder’ mode as you get further into the factory and Mommy changes after the player ‘cheated’.
There's some evidence that supports the trigger idea in chapter one because the first tape you find mentioned security measures and huggy didn't turn violent until the player was progressing too far for him to allow. As for cheating as a trigger since mommy long legs was placed in an area designed to test children I could see her becoming upset/angry but the isolation affected her behavior enough to become more of a violent sadist.
now this makes me think again, the reason why "Poppy" told us that we were too perfect to lose was probably because we managed to pass through all the games without mistakes. Dying or losing does not count to the canon lore so this makes me have second thoughts..
Poppy must want us to stay here because she’s seen what the player is capable of and that they can survive such monsters so she decided to keep us here in order for her safety and escape
4:31 I think another thing that you missed as a detail for Mommy Long Legs' "transformation" is her hands, you can see the one on the left looks normal until it stretches out into that horrifying claw like shape
She was probably suffering from trauma after being stuck since it reminds her of her chase she was stuck in. She mentions how she would've been trapped back in her case therefore she wouldn't be in a good mood. She's not evil however she's been through a lot. She's making you help save the factory because your character would attempt to leave it. She's not evil however she's sneaky. It's also the same Poppy that's why she knows you in chapter 2.
Theory: if you focus on poppy's hair you can see white coler on the tip of her hair and when at the end the tip of her hair changes to red: if the tip of her hair was white means shes helpfull and if the tip of her hair was red mean shes mad
This is my theory: What if, they are trying to keep you there to swap places? As in, the dolls are just souls trapped in a doll body, and they only way for them to be human again is to transfer bodies with someone else. It’s maybe why Mommy Long Legs kidnapped Poppy to try and keep her away from you so she can escape herself, and maybe why all the dolls are trying to attack you or the protagonist. It is because they want to have the feeling of being alive again. Also, you can see Mommy Long Legs fingers growing as she gets more angry or aggressive. I dunno I just want to point that out 🤷
Poppy changed her mind at the end and decided that the both of us can't leave the factory just yet. After learning of how capable we are in the factory, she saw that there might be hope of helping the toys after all, so she needs us to complete tasks that will hopefully result in the freedom of everyone in the factory. She's not evil(for now at least), she's just determined to make things right. Only then I think will we be free to go home and HOPEFULLY(I'm wishing with all my might on this one!) we'll take Poppy home with us.
The process of transformation is really painful and that pain might be the reason for the angry side of the dolls and since we are an ex employee they are mad at us for ( maybe forcefully ) doing this to them
Quick question Tericho What time was it when you posted this?I know time zones are a thing but it’s 2am where I am and I hope you’re getting enough sleep Make sure to take care of yourself okay?
About Kissy I feel like one difference between Huggy helping you in Chapter 1 & Kissy helping you in chapter 2 is that Huggy later in the EXACT SAME chapter tries to kill you but Kissy doesn't even though she probably could have in chapter 2. Also Huggy kinda looks like he's trying to hide the fact that he's alive while helping you in chapter 1 while Kissy doesn't try to hide that from you when she helps.
6:50 Kissy missy probably wants us to uncover the mistery of what happened to the toys, she tells you with the way she looks at you that she needs your help to get huggy back to normal, but if not possible, to help the others we may not know. This is probably one of the prototypes trick to kill everyone, as he is very VERY smart. What do you think?
the enlargening of the eye pupil happenes when exposed to less light this might mean that when mommy long legs enters "hostile" mode enlarges the pupil is so she can chase you through the dark
I think Poppy is just pure evil. 1) Poppy is always hidden away (or hiding and watching) 2) The other 'toys' are what chase you (Poppy commands to them) 3) She's very aware, and wants our attention (she apparently gets kidnapped by Mommy Long Legs and put in a case, she also gets dragged into the hole and used like a puppet by Mommy Long Legs (I think it's all a plan, she wants our attention by making herself a 'victim', she may even have Munchausen Syndrome 4) The game's called Poppy Playtime (playtime for Poppy, you're her toy)
its interesting that the toys are conditioned into having more friendly personalities after experiencing some of possibly the worse pain in both physical and mental. But the conditioning wouldn't stay after 10 years, not unless it is consistently done over time; mommy literally said that she hasn't even seen the place up and running for years and that she hasn't seen the children in those same years. She was conditioned to be their mother figure, to help escort them from game to game. Its likely that part of the conditioning she had vanished way before the player arrived, because she wasn't able to be around children thus cracking the company's ideal personality to mix with the anger of the human. It makes me wonder because Huggy was apparently intelligent but also obedient due to conditioning that maybe huggy's response with helping us but also attacking us is that, while he knows the player was once an employee, but we weren't someone who is meant to be in a certain area. Perhaps the employees who learnt about the dark secrets by entering prohibited rooms were met with a grisly fate regardless of willingness to keep silent.
Hi, I really enjoyed the video. My opinion is that there are two identities in each doll. One is the souls of humans used for experiments and the other is the identity that the factory has placed on the dolls. For example, when mommy long leg starts counting, we notice two different types of tones, one is the voice of the person being tested and one is the voice intended for mom. It is possible that part of the person's personality is trying to express itself in the form of anger because of the experiments that have been done on the method, but the identity programmed on the mommy long leg is trying to prevent it. And I think the only thing that is different is the 1006 test. I feel that this test was not a single human being, but a combination of several human beings. And completely in the form of a wild animal with intelligence we may encounter beyond man. My only question is what is the reason for collecting other doll parts because it does not seem to have a problem in terms of physical strength. sorry if it was long.
I think there might be two poppy's within the factory as that might explain the personality shift and the changing in motives between the beginning of the chapter and the end. But im not too sure
Now that I think of it there could be 2 Huggies too maybe the evil one trapped him some where and chased us down leading us to poppy??? Maybe we can see the inoccent Huggy in the future chapters??? I am not sure tho
I'm pretty sure it's not that deep. Poppy has been trapped in that case for so long and she knows what has happened in the factory. She wanted to do something about it but she isn't strong. Poppy actually wanted to help us escape considering that she is leading us to the right way... Her motives changed since Poppy saw us beating and outsmarting Mommy Long Legs. (And probably knew that we also beat Huggy). That is a big thing since these live toys are bigger and stronger than us. That's why Poppy chose to not let you escape the factory just yet. She thought that if she wanted things to change, then she's gonna have us, the players, to help her do something about it and of course, she ain't gonna sit things out and let the player do everything. She was also gonna help us but then she disappeared again.
Yea, this is exactly what I imagined! It just doesn't sit right that she was acting like a friend, one of the only nice things in this factory (besides kissy for now) and suddenly she betrayed us. Not to mention she sounded kind of soulless after she was "saved"
I don't think that counts as "Betrayed", like poppy says we are very useful, "perfect" to do things that poppy wants us (The MC) to do. So poppy don't want us to escape the factory and trapping us are because she need our help.
You saying the living toys have 2 personality's and saying one of those is a more 'playful' personality, reminds me of the title 'Poppy Playtime'. Makes a lot of sense don't ya think? - Also, I don't think Huggy Wuggy is still strong enough from that large fall to drag himself up to somewhere safe, especially with those noodle arms he and Kissy Missy have. I think, just like how Mommy got taken, Exp.1006 took him someplace for its "evil" plan.
It is clear Poppy wants to be human again and get out. If this happened to me I would want to end it all. So getting attacked just made that worse. Kissy might have helped us because of Poppy. The two sides were present when we did something good and wrong in the eyes of the dolls. Huggy Good - walking around doing nothing. Bad - when we wanted to go deeper in the factory. Mommy good - play the games. Bad - when we broke the rules of the game. What if we are the mystery tube staff member. Brain washing is going on so who is to say we got brain washed and sent away. Having a letter to bring us back may have started us on a journey to remember the place 100% and not the smoke screen. Mommy spoke to us at the end like she thought we knew what she was on about. The place looks run down because it has been shut down for years with only the dolls looking after it.
I was also thinking that we’re the mystery tube staff. Only one employee name is completely knocked off. I find suspicious since the place is so decrepit and that name is the only one with it’s letters on the floor.
I don't actually think that Poppy's intentions are evil, but I don't think she has the player's best interests at heart either. First off, who is the player? I personally think that they're the unnamed scientist from the videos, he does mention that he'll be back with one breakthrough, and if that's the case, the toys have a lot of reason to dislike the player. At the one room with all of the names over the door, one of them has been removed and scattered on the floor, since the names are company executives, we can assume the unnamed door is the unnamed scientist, which if it's also the player, answers a number of questions. 1. Why was the player lured back to the factory? (Poppy was sealed, so she didn't summon the player). 2. In conjuncture with the above question, why would a random employee matter enough to be summoned back to the factory? 3. Why would a random employee even go back to the factory? (It has to be someone of influence, who has a particular interest in returning there, the scientist states that he'll be back). 4. Why would Poppy need the player's help, even after getting on the train? (The scientist might be able to help change her to a more suitable body, where a random employee could only help her escape). Here is what I personally think may have happened, I'll try my best to lay it out in a rough timeline, note that this is a hypothesis based on pooled information, so I'll be filling in some of the gaps: 1. Stella Greyber joins Playtime Co during the 1940-50s, Elliot Ludwig is impressed by her, they become intimately involved and she gives birth to a daughter (Not my theory, but it makes sense). 2. Daughter is likely killed by a tragic accident in the factory, pushing Ludwig to find a way of bringing her back to life as a toy, and so Poppy is born. (Stella Greyber's video shows Poppy's hand, and her voice actress is the same, implying a connection. But Stella cannot be Poppy because she was still alive after Mommy Long Legs was made, as her voice is on the recording at the Game Station). 3. Even after Poppy was created, Ludwig was still determined to find a way of bringing his daughter back to life, this is when the 'Unnamed Scientist' joins the company (I'm going to just call him Dr. X for now), and showed a lot of merit with his innovative ideas, much of which were questionably ethical in nature (Probably 1970s). 4. Dr. X convinces Ludwig that the methods used to produce Poppy could provide a great benefit to society in the long run, extending human lives indefinitely, Ludwig agrees to work with Dr. X, with the understanding that Ludwig himself is used for the first experiment. 5. Ludwig places Playtime Co in Stella's hands, and undergoes the surgery, where he becomes experiment 1006, the Prototype (Could be Sunni Buddi/Daisy; Daddy Long Legs seems unlikely, as they wouldn't use the Spider theme twice for a main enemy, where Daisy is on Ludwig's desk, and was used in a recycling poster, reusing parts is something the Prototype does, so it could have been foreshadowing). 6. Over time, Ludwig gradually loses his memories and sanity, so they kept him isolated and monitored in the factory. 7. Stella turns out to be less suited for her position than Ludwig had hoped, and is easily influenced by the rest of Paytime Co's executives, granting them more influence in the company, which gradually becomes less and less humane with their experiments and treatment of the staff. 8. Dr. X starts experimenting on orphans, as Stella desires longevity and the notion of living as a toy, she sets her morals aside in favor of 'it's all for the good of humanity'. 9. 1980s, Leith Pierre, a fierce executive who is extremely loyal to his position in the company, takes up the surgery becoming experiment 1170, Huggy Wuggy (Which is why Huggy's hand is shown in the Closing hours video, it's also why he's seen hiding behind a door, he's getting even for all the pranks that were made on him when he was human). 10. Having lost all influence in Playtime Co, Ludwig is disgusted by the fact that his company is now experimenting on orphaned children, with his sanity deteriorating, Ludwig attempts an escape and rallies the other experiments, which start attacking the employees; Huggy Wuggy, who has been a loyal follower of Ludwig for years, willingly complies. 11. Dr. X flees the factory, no one else escapes. 12. A hierarchy is created in the factory, Ludwig's sanity is all but gone, though he sits at the top of the food chain as the Prototype, gradually modifying his body using the parts of broken toys, as he never lost his obsession with creating new things (The bone on his arm could be from Ludwig, the female security guard or a randomly killed employee, but shows how far his sanity has degraded, along with the hatred he now feels towards the direction his company had taken). 13. The Prototype has one final grudge that's on his mind, Dr. X still lives, so he summons Dr. X to Playtime Co, to settle things once and for all. 14. Dr. X decides to return to Playtime Co, perhaps regretting his past misdeeds, but he's also applied modifications to his own body, so he is no longer a normal human either. 15. Dr. X frees Poppy, at first she plans to use him to escape, thinking that he might be able to help her acquire a new body, but later decides that Playtime Co has become too dangerous to leave alone, and that every toy must never be allowed to leave alive, including Dr. X and herself. For a final thought, if Stella was made into a toy, I think the only likely candidate would be Kissy Missy, because as stated earlier, Stella was still alive after Mommy Long Legs was created, and Poppy was created long before her. We also hear Mommy Long Legs say: "Obey the rules, or I'll tear you apart, and eat your insides while you're still alive"; note the use of the words 'tear you apart' and 'insides'. There are a number of ways the devs could have written this, but since it's assumed that the player might actually be a toy, 'insides' could also mean 'organic parts'.
Hm, Poppy’s little tone shift was one of the things that I was wondering about the most after Chapter 2 and while her having a Dual Personality was something that did cross my mind as well, However, that all the other toys has Dual Personalities as well? Can we really safely assume that? Actually, the whole “playful and innocent to straight up sinister Dual Personalities” thing, the way you describe it didn’t make the idea of it entirely clear to me, so could you perhaps elaborate on what you meant by it, by any chance?
no its because poppy had to have a change of heart she knows what you did to Huggy and mommy your strong enough to fight prototype to her and that's why she wants to start looking at Playcare. so chapter 3 will be about prototype poppy and we all know you or we might play as poppy and more of kissy missy poppy is aware that you think `she betrayed you that's why she says in a darker almost sad mode sorry I cant let you leave yet i heard some crying in the background as well so maybe you should try to see do some google research and I will see if I find something to for my theory and Elliot Ludwig went missing right? and prototype had human bones weird so what if Elliot sold himself to the company and became prototype but something happened and now he uses the toys ONLY I MEAN ONLY IF THEY MET FATE so prototype will rebuild himself having these parts "mommy Huggy bunzo Wack a wuggies" maybe even Pj pug a pillar and in chapter 3 prototype will be the villain we are fighting and your right about 1 thing we have to take the place down if there is a chapter 4 5 6 7 8 9 maybe 10 one of them will end with us taking the place down and every one the toy we fight we kill they meet fate and move onto the next boss and please pin me sorry if there is so much to read well you can always improve your reading right??? also I cant let you leave yet also means she is bringing justice to all the orphans that were tested on and mommy long legs kissy Huggy bunzo the Wack a wuggies Pj pug a pillar she means restore what the workers took from them. and stop the dark things ok ok I'm done bye
I was thinking Poppy wants to help you leave, but she also needs your help to set things right. On top of that, I also like the idea of the soul in her being only partially twisted and corrupted, so she switches between personalities (similar to Sun/Moondrop in FNAFSB)
I've been a fan of these theories for a while now, so I'd like to point out some stuff. They used the "subjects" actual organs (example, heart and brain) to make the toys for a more realistic feel. Therefore the subjects consciousness is the same in the toys. They get brainwashed beforehand, but the bipolarity in some of the toys could be the brainwashing wearing off, and the subjects realising what they got themselves into, therefore the cause. The theory of this applying to Poppy is, in fact, understandable, but there's a hole in the theory. In chapter one, we were introduced to an employee named Stella Graybur in a tape. We see her name on one of the slides. She is Poppy's subject, and I assume this because in the VSH tape she even talks about returning to childhood and wanted it to last forever. What better way to do that than become a walking, talking doll that the children play with? But, she _was_ describing her desire to become a child once again, which means she actively wanted to be a subject. BUT I have another idea for this. Poppy was probably traumatized before we came along, by experiment 1006 going on a massacre. She only needs us to do what she wants to prevent 1006 to kill ever again, we killed Mommy Long Legs, after all. At first, she acted cheerful and tried to get us out, then finding that we could survive and can destroy the other experiments, realizing this could be stopped altogether, so she prevents us from leaving because she WANTS us to stop 1006. She only sounds monotone and sinister because of the traumatic memories flooding back to her. I'm not sure if this is canon, but it is a possibility. But I honestly don't know who came first, 1006 or Poppy, but if 1006 came first, it could be a realization that this was wrong, but with the same intentions to get us out and the realization in the end. Hope you enjoyed reading this.
I wonder if it's not that Poppys second personality came through, but more that she realised she can't ask you nicely. She was going to have you trust her as she did something important, and we were going to go on the train anyway. I think after Mommy Long Legs, Poppy realised she can't play nice. That she'll have to just get you to do what she wants, as 'you're too perfect to lose.' This was her plan the entire time, we were never going to leave, but she will manipulate us into doing what she wants. Is she a villain, I don't think so. I can see her being an anti-hero, one who has to do the dark things to help solve the mystery. But, she could fall into villainy, and that is always an interesting thing
Marie Payne is Mommy Long-Legs... so that explains why- (spoilers - click read more to see it if you seen/played it or don’t mind spoilers!) “Mommy” bled when you grindered her up... (Edit: so.. Kissy Missy and HuggyWuggy are friends and our co-workers.??)
I kinda think that one of the reasons why Kissy Missy didn’t have the strength in her arms like Huggy Wuggy did is because, well, she is Kissy Missy. Her capabilities, unlike Huggy, does not have to do with her arms. I think their abilities are in their names. Huggy Wuggy probably has arm strength because he is Huggy Wuggy “he’ll hug you until you pop” lol. I honestly don’t know, but that’s what made sense to me on why Kissy probably could not get the lever on the first try. That’s just not how she was built. So if her name his Kissy, then maybe what she can do has to do with the mouth, similar to Huggy. But then if she’s supposed to be all kissy, lol, then she probably doesn’t have a mouth full of teeth like Huggy Huggy. If she interacted with the kids, then she probably would scare the kids if she had a mouth like that. Maybe more similar to the tiny Huggies. I kinda think she’ll be a good guy due to those things I think. It may be likely that she doesn’t have the qualities of a killing machine like Huggy and that she is on the nice side. But then again, there is that double personality thing, so I may be wrong.
It's also possible Kissy isn't strong because she's in docile mode. Huggy was strong when he went aggressive. I think a part of Poppy's shift is that she has decided to use us. At the start she isn't aware of how, in her words, Perfect and Capable we are. At the end, she's decided to betray us, and that probably doesn't line up with her friendly side.
By the way, Now that I'm commenting, I'd like to inform those who don't know yet that the figure for the player is just a faceless yellow mannequin. This means that the protagonist can be whoever or whatever we want them to be eg. A man , a woman or even a toy like one of your theories, that last one(your theory that the protag is a toy) can now be confirmed because the protagonist is whoever or whatever we want. So I choose that the protag is the Drifter from Willy's Wonderland who used to work at Playtime Co. and can't be bothered to fight back against the monsters because he either doesn't feel like it or he's out of Punch Pop soda. It would be pretty cool if the Poppy Playtime movie is a sequel to Willy's Wonderland and the Drifter or Janitor as he's actually called is the protag. This could work because his past and future and Identity is also whatever we want, just like the protagonist in Poppy Playtime. Wow, I talk like a book, don't I?
l think that Mommy Long Legs did something to her! Or... at the beginning did you see that she was not breathing while Mommy said this l herd that Miss. Poppy was just going to give you the code for the train. Now, how is that fun? Instead why don't we make a game out of it? The game station is still working. It will be just like old times *pretending to be Poppy* and if you win all three games l'll give you the train code *stops pretending to be Poppy* Mommy loves that idea Poppy! oo your going to have so much fun! Head to Musical memory and Mommy will get things started. Obay the rules or l will tare you apart and eat your insides, while your still, alive. ahahahahaha l think it did something to her!😱
Worth noting with all the discussion of dualistic personalities from these characters that dissociative identity disorder is a real mental illness. Anything these characters have in line with DSM 5 criteria doesn't reflect the reality of experiencing DID, and the real people who do are not manipulative or malicious people. Tericho goes out of his way to talk about trauma the characters likely all experienced, but don't forget that playing off mental illness is a very longstanding thing done in horror and doesn't represent what the reality of having the mental illness is like at all. Not trying to suggest anyone consciously suggests those things, but it's important to be conscious of the baggage and real suffering that comes along with uncritically consuming something that misrepresents a real situation or group of people
In the scrapped version of the ending she actually says alot more explaining how she's the cause of everything and wants to fix things and that's why she needs you
Wild theory here, but remember when mommy was getting grinded she said “you make me part of him” that’s because the arm that took her head was the “him” when you use mods to fly you can see the arm better and there is a human bone on it, if we go to the water control thing at the bunzo factory we can see huggy wuggy’s hair and blood and i think that huggy was pulled by that same arm so the arm is rebuilding it self with the other monsters.
This is off topic, but I really hope the arm possibly belonging to 1006 is inspired by the Beldam’s metallic hand from Coraline. I know people have been making those connections, however I don’t know if that was intentional by the developers or not, but I really hope it was. That would be so cool if it was actually a reference to Coraline
I kinda think poppy was being kinda similar to Circus Baby in fnaf, y’know, making us trust her, acting, just so she can use us for her own goals. I think poppy’s whole cute sweet personality was an act so we would let our guard down. The whole mommy long legs think may have been a fortunate accident, or poppy knew it would happen and let it happen
It looks more likely that both Poppy and Mommy do have real eyes, since they dilate. They've also probably gone through conditioning but both of their pupils get wide in dark surroundings- as real eyes do to gather more light. Compare it to Huggy and Missy- who eyes are doll-like and thus never dilate. People's eyes will also naturally dilate when they are under stress, which explains why Mommy and Poppy's eyes change according to their emotion. Huggy on the other hand, stays constant between his passive and guard mode. Also, I think it's very possible that rather than an uncontrolled personality shift, the change is deliberate. Poppy puts up a demure act to get us to trust her, but after we have shown not only a capability but a willingness to kill to get what we want she decides that there is no need to play pretend. We are both well aware of just how far the player will go- so might as well stop acting innocent now. Mommy does effectively the same thing, talking down to us like we were a child. However, we prove to be too resistant and she also decided that if we aren't going to 'play nice' then neither will she.
Thank you! Someone else noted how creepily realistic her eyes are! Also glad you pointed out Kissy Missy. Kissy Missy fumbles with the switch. It's like she's not used to her body. Like it's her first time using her arm like that and she has to learn how to do it. Meanwhile Huggy Wuggy grabbed the key quickly and effortlessly. Just the way she moves seems very important especially when the scene is designed for us to focus on her hand fumbling with the switch. She also moves like she's slowly comprehending that the switch will likely help us. Again, it's setup for us to look at her head first and notice her clearly thinking about how she can help us. It's slow but it's more learning than calculated.
So I’ve been wondering. Was Huggy Wuggy from chapter 1 always there or did he move there after what happened 10 years ago? Because if he was there before what happened then that would mean he was seen by the public. That would mean the scientists trusted that Huggy wouldn’t act out. The head scientist even mentioned in the tape that Huggy was conditioned with maximum obedience and had limited intelligence. This might be the same for Kissy Missy. If these were people turned into toys how did the scientists know they could for sure limit their intelligence? Maybe they had a different source other than people. Huggy could be seen as almost like a guard dog since he attacked when we got deeper in the factory. But if we are an ex employee and Huggy had this obedience, why did he attack us? Was it that the absence of the scientists not continually conditionally him to not attack employees, or his dual personality is able to finally come out? He could’ve saw us and automatically helped us since that might have been in his conditioning. Like reverting back to something you’re really used to. But he stalks you after he helps you, almost as if he’s deciding to attack you or not. But it could also be experiment 1006 pushed Huggy to attack us. Since Huggy is referred to by the scientists as obedient. How would this obedience change? The death screens mentioned that the prototype “saved” us all. It just makes me wonder. Sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to get this out.
i don't think poppy is evil, if you look at her lines, she wants to fix the factory, she might have thought that huggy wuggy was a fluke and we need to leave but after beating mommy long legs, she knows we can handle ourselves and possibly, just possibly, fix or at least remedy the mistakes of the past.
I honestly think Kissy Missy is just gonna be a special character that will be just Huggy Wuggy but reversed, I think she will help us thru multiple chapters, but she might get kidnapped by something even stronger than Mommy Long Legs just like Poppy got kidnapped. Again, I don't think that Kissy Missy will be aggressive, since she seems so innocent and playful. Also, she doesn't give us the weird look like all characters do, she actually communicates just by moving her eyes, which also gives more chance that she's friendly. That's my theory.
I think Poppy's evil (or maybe not) she's very mysterious maybe she knows something after all the game is about poppy indeed in the first chapter we saw tv's with Poppy's metion nd process how she was created and also she was trapped in a box maybe ik she said mommy did that.....maybe and after that when we freed her she could have been creating dolls kissy missy could be one of the recent created dolls I don't think kissy missy is evil maybe she's a doll trying to help us or could be a human in disguise trying to make us escape maybe she'll help in next chapter too.....and we in chapter 2 went through all the games which were a "test" Done by playtime co. To sellect kids or people who will turn into dolls whose capable enough maybe Poppy or "someone" Else testing us afterall and at the end of ch. 2 she says "we'll make a good team I want u to stay in the factory I can't let u leave" Maybe she has plans to turn us too..... And the mysterious claw, I think huggy wuggy ain't dead after all he's a doll he's under "repair" And the secret claw also grabbed poppy to the hole maybe poppy saw that "thing" And when mommy long legs was crushed that claw also took her head maybe someone is trying to combine mommy nd huggy wuggy because they were very powerful or maybe mommy's not dead someone's trying to revive her idk just my little theory....... We never escaped the factory too....... :(
My original theory was that Poppy had some sort of two personality thing going on, but I enjoy this theory much better than my own. I enjoyed this theory like a lot and it kind helps me explain my theory like a lot because it's super similar, so thanks for that Tericho
it's funny cause something that really threw me off, is when Mommy was talking to us for the first time while holding Poppy, and Poppy just entered like "doll mode" she didn't move, she didn't struggle, she didn't even dialogue anything, wich is bizarre to say the least, cause its not like a Toy Story situation where "she can't know i can move", so maybe is a self defense mechanism?? idk its just weird
Keep in mind that some one sent out the initial video cassette and message inviting the ex-employee to return and search for Poppy, that could have been Kissy Missy or someone that's still has yet to appear like that scrambled name at the drop tube area (it has to be a prominent character because most of those names where important people).
Ok, kinda off topic, but does anyone else think that Poppy kinda looks like Annabelle? Not from the movies but the actual Annabelle doll? I've been thinking about that for quite a few moments.
kissy missy is huggys better half which means she is always friendly. and her outcome was more successful then huggys so huggy was meant to be like kissy missy. experiment 1-0-0-6 well... it wasn’t pretty...Now on to poppys theory poppy was a human who was turned into a toy so the drawings on the wall at the beginning of the game were made by kids who were actually being usd as test subjects to make more toys alive play time co. has sacrificed many people trying to make money the statue of huggy in the first chapter was forced to stand there he didn’t eat or kill for a decade... i might edit this later when I get more information this sentence will be deleted once I edit this
I wonder if at the start she was playful and innocent since she thought you two would be mostly safe and she would be near you a lot more, but after the adventure with Mommy she realized she has to get more serious and dropped trying to be sweet-ish Like if her plan was to just get on the train and stuff, she could of stayed sweet and explained she wanted to go deeper in a nice way but after dealing with Mommy she just dropped it and almost seemed like "sorry but we're doing this my way" Also you seeing "bigger eyes" could just be lighting since it is brighter in the start and after you free her, there are lot more shadows and it accentuates her already kinda big doll eyes.. also she was looking up at you in the end while at the start she's looking downwards.. and sometimes people's eyes do look bigger when looking up Is it weird I kinda want to see one of the toys "properly conditioned"?
Nice catch on the eyes. They definitely look more human when the pupil and and iris of the eye is smaller. The less of you can see of the white part of the eye, the more non-human they look. For example, look at a shark’s eye compared to a human eye.
I just realized, building on your idea that Kissy Missy was transferred more recently, what if a later stage sees the player controlling/playing as Kissy Missy? Long stretchy arm mechanics are still there
Also if u notice poppys hair it's different in small details and reminding every horror game never do things as 'mistakes' they definitely do this on purpose in the beginning poppys hair is more shorter and darker although in the end poppys hair is more lighter and doesn't have that much of details as the first one but maybe it's just the light maybe she's still the same poppy but we can also see why dose mommy in the end is more dusty and broken? and if u notice experience 1006 'prototype' dragged mommy while she was destroyed and we see huggys hair on the wall with blood maybe experience 1006 dragged him as will and every main 'villain' get ended up killed like how in chapter one huggy is the main one who we get chased from in the end and get killed and in chapter two mommy long legs is the main one who we also get chased by and get ALSO killed so if poppy was the main villain in chapter three will she ALSO chase us and we kill her?
Is it just me or did poppy's hair changes, her bangs, so that means the poppy at the end of the game is not poppy at the beginning. And I've watched RUclipsrs playing poppy playtime chapter 2 and poppy's hair is gray at the beginning "only her middle bangs".
Haven't you ever met people like that? People that have a default friendly personality with you just until you give them what they want? She was so friendly with you because you had no value before (or might have some value, but she still don't know that), now you have (she knows you were able to kill mommy and survive in the factory), and she feel like she can use you to acomplish her agenda. People like that don't gain anything by beeing hostile with people that might have some value.
I got the impression Poppy was manipulating the protagonist in order to escape. Once she realized what the protagonist was capable of, she changed her plans. I don’t know if I would consider her ‘evil’ though, but she could inevitably wind up our enemy.
Others have said in the comments, but I definitely think it’s more likely that the friendly personalities are the ones they were conditioned to have. After all, why would Playtime condition them to be more difficult and hard to control? The angry personalities are their true feelings. All their anger, bitterness, and insanity bubbling out from under the fake smiles. However, it’s very possible that this won’t be the case for every toy character. Some might be able to still hold onto their decency and sanity even after all their trauma. We can only hope.
Soo I was just watching a vid about the prototype and poppy is actually the daughter of the boss of playtime co and the reason why she was sealed in that case was to prevent the darkness from getting her just like it did with mommy long legs and Huggy Wuggy but what I don’t understand is that Kissy missy is the only nice toy and can you make a vid on the prototype and kissy missy and the darkness together? If you already did then please let me know! And also the darkness is the reason why they started killing, well I think so. The boss of playtime co has lost his family and poppy was his daughter so he did some experiments in a ded rat in playtime co and they made a gel with poppy’s ( The flower ) and some gel and a few weeks later the rat was alive again and they did the same with poppy ( the doll ) so please tell me if you understand this! Btw experiment 0p6 is Eliot ( I think that’s how you spell his name ) he is the boss of playtime co and he is the prototype
5:25, take a look at those pictures. It may bay the lighting, but do you see her hair? a patch of her hair hanging down onto her face is a whitish grey. To reinforce this theory that they could be two different dolls is that her face in the first picture has a definite shine. her body seems to be duller in the second. and, her dress is brighter. it seems to be bluer, while the first picture shows that it is a faded mix of light blue and pastel purple. It looks as if it is a lighter lilac, which is very different from the coloring that we see in the second picture. Also, I believe that this part is no mistake, but her eyes seem very different as well. In the First picture, her eyes look VERY human, but in the second, they look like a doll's eyes. they seem, glossy. A human's eyes look glossy as well, but look at the veins in her eyes in the first picture. See a difference?
I think she will be an antihero on this story. She seems angered by the "terrible things that have happened" and wants justice. To "set things right" as she says, she will need someone who is capable.
Seems like a complex character that can be manipulative, cold blooded and cunning, but in her mind the ends will justify her means
I trust poppy to do the right thing
That is sort of the impression i got too, after listening to her lines of dialogue at the end of Chapter 2.
i mean thats word for word what she said
@@seamsungg yeah. Altho she can mean an entirely different thing by "set things right".
I've heard someone claiming she wants a human body back, and seeks to lure the player to some machine eventually, and transfer herself back into a human form. And possibly other toys too.
It's a bit far fetched lol, but as she said, she has been stuck in that case for so long.
@@jdts7589 our character is a toy tho (least thats the theory with lots of evidence)
I believe that they learned their mistake with Huggy and made his "better half" by not giving Missy full control of her arms, I honestly don't think she'll be able to attack at all. She also seems more aware? She takes time to study the player and decide on whether to help. I agree that she definitely seems like she'd be another employee and not an orphan.
You are very observant
They considered Huggy perfect, also he was just a security measure you were warned about in the beginning
@@Apple-vk3fi No you're right, I literally thought about putting in an edit saying that nothing is inherently wrong with huggy because he's built as he is meant to be, being a security "system", he isn't even meant to be active for the children (or anyone else for that matter) to see.
So by what you’re say this game js basically a mix of FNAF and BATIM with the toys being the bodies and or souls of the workers but then some have orphans they find inside as well? So maybe Huggy is not actually a worker but a random kids soul?
@@bendyinkdemon3094 Well that's what it seems like atleast, they definitely were testing kids for some reason. I'm not 100% sure on the staff thing, but from this video it definitely seems like some of the "experiments" aren't kids, like mommy for instance.
Mentioning the eyes, maybe you have noticed how almost if not every toy that is "murdered " across the hallways with slashes and have their eyes taken, not any eye is left around near the toy corpses, maybe thats a key part that the Prototype is after and Poppy having actual real eyes from our perspective in comparison to the other toys encountered makes her more vital for the prototype's experiment and Popy knows or suspects this, giving her the idea to make the player her ally to ruin his plans but also gain something from both. Maybe what the Prototype is building is not just his own body but a recreation of a human body with parts of flesh stolen from the other toys ( I noticed when the Claw crawled in one of the videos, that the forearm part had real bones to replace metal) And when that presumed body is finished both the prototype and Poppy would fight for it .
@@katyyandere Fr
That's just a theory A GAME THEO-
huggy wuggys bones
I love this theory
I actually like that there but doesn't huggie woogie have like eyes inside of like his eyes
It’s funny, contrary to how everyone seems to react to poppy’s monologue at the end, I never real thought of it as to pointing her to be evil. Morally questionable, yes. Manipulative, yes. But evil, no. She seems to have a legitimate drive to repair the damage done in this factory. We just happen to be the tool she needs
i 100% agree and to add to this while also answering the question from the video: Poppy realizes by the end of chapter 2 how valuable the protagonist is because to save her we were put through the same 3 tests that the orphans had to go thru. ( And we passed with flying colors) I feel like this directly ties into her "personality switch up" at the end there. You can definitely tell she had a change of plans that now included us (the protagonist). I honestly believe she was being sincere when she said "you're gonna have to trust me."
The road to evil is often paved with good intentions.
when someone says "i'm going to need you to trust me" that's a red flag to me 👀🚩
First reply?
How tf
True tho
What??
WAIT RUclips- NANI!? Cool to see the original here lol. But how isn't RUclips pinned or having more likes?
But have you heard Poppy's deleted voice line? It actually makes her seem less sinister but it gave away some stuff that would make you think.
Where did u find the deleted voice lines?
Edit: alright guys I already know
The reason why I asked is because at the time when I searched there wasn't any video about poppy's deleted voice lines. But now it's everywhere
Here don't worry it's not a scam or etc.
You did it, against all odds! You defeated mommy! I was so scared she'd put me back in that case. But you freed me once again. You are perfect. Too perfect to lose. I’m sorry I cannot let you leave yet.
I’ve never met anyone like you (giggles).
You have the potential. I know you came to find the ones who disappeared all those years ago. But they’re gone. They’ve been gone for a long time.
Do you know how long I have been stuck in that case? Well, too long. I had so much time to think and reflect, time to figure out exactly what I would do when free. We’ll set things right. Terrible things have happened, and I am the cause. Being able to exist as a doll,it has killed so many people.
So much is unknown to you. Where do I even begin? But I know that whatever I need you to do, you can fix everything! I see it inside you. You are capable. This train is now heading towards playcare. It’s the best place to start looking. I will - - (Alarm Clock beeps). What - - What is - -
Poppy (Full ending speech of Chapter 2)
@@romain7102 Bruh,our man,the protagonist be like "I knew I should have went back when the entrance door was still behind me"😢
@@ceerie7487 You can type it to find on RUclips but the person in my post posted the entire thing for you to read.
Poppy changed her mind at the end and decided that the both of us can't leave the factory just yet. After learning of how capable we still are in the factory, she saw that there might be hope of helping the toys/orphans/staff after all, so she needs us to complete tasks that will hopefully result in the freedom of everyone in the factory. She's not evil(for now at least), she's just determined to make things right. Only then I think will we be free to go home and HOPEFULLY(I'm wishing with all my might on this one!) we'll take Poppy home with us.
Or maybe she wants to continue the legacy of Elliot Ludwig
Nah I think she is nice someone is just controlling her and making her evil *(My Opinion)*
@@Girono_Umbrell that's what I thought all of a sudden she go's from being joyful to just not has happy as before like her self she was so happy but at the end she seem to sad about the train thing 🤔
@@DiamondDior200 yes🤨
@@Girono_Umbrell idk 🤷🏾♀️ but we will
I kind of interpreted the real vs. conditioned personalities as opposite, that the more malicious personalities might be the real/original ones with the friendly personalities being the conditioned ones.
My logic behind this is that the real personalities are traumatized and morally eroded while the conditioned ones are the most ideal for the everyday public. This leads the question as to why, and I think it's either for the sake of psychological warfare or simply with the aspiration of the toys being able to help any child they could belong to through any difficult childhood traumas they may be going through (like if a child happens to have a huggy doll but that child has an abusive homelife and the huggy doll's sentience allows it to be more helpful to the child) or warfare in allowing the forms of toys to be soldiers in war and conflict getting into enemy households as toys.
Holy shit, I never thought of it that way, but you're right
damn
Honestly, this sounds more sense.
I don't think from all the pieces we have that these toys could be made for warfare.... Other than that this is very promising
"Biological engineering is the most powerful weapon . ." - Dr. Henry Wu
This is exactly what I imagined
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If you ask me, Poppy’s behavior strikes me as “every doll for herself” at the start. She tells the Player to wake up, maybe as a thank you for freeing her, before immediately running off and trying to get out of the factory. When you show up to make things a bit easier for her, she probably decides just before being abducted that maybe she can team up with you to escape after all.
Yeah, I kinda have to agree with a few others here: She’s not evil (not that we know of yet), she just realized that there might actually be a chance to take 1006 down for good. If anything, her monotone voice when we rescue her strikes me as remorseful, not wanting to stay and keep you here but also not wanting to pass up the opportunity.
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Me too. 👍🏾
Yeah, her voice at the end sounds like she is in conflict with herself, she knows that both of you want to escape, but she also knows that you're the only one that has a chance of ending the horror that Playtime'Co has before it escapes.
I find it surprising how no one besides Game Theory has noticed that it isn't just soul-play involved in the toymaking process at Playtime Co....these humans have almost definitely had not only their souls but their bodies converted into these toy bodies through some bizarre scientific experiments. I mean, look at what we've seen so far: all over the place there are scrapped toys lying in puddles of blood, for starters. But more tellingly, look at Huggy Wuggy and Mommy Long Legs - Huggy has a gaping maw with very-visible saliva - something I'm pretty sure an inorganic body couldn't produce - and when we defeat him and send him hurtling into that deep pit, he smacks his head on a couple of pipes on the way down, leaving bloody marks behind. Then, when we defeat Mommy and she gets dragged into that grinder, we can see that she bleeds as her torso is crushed, and, when you slow the scene down, turn up the brightness and look *very* closely, you can even catch a glimpse of internal organs. Even Poppy herself; in her trailer when her battery is removed, we can see that it's dripping with blood, and her eyes, as Tericho said, look too real; I'm willing to bet that they ARE real. Like, who decides to put capillaries on a doll's eyes??? And I haven't even mentioned all the hidden notes in the first trailer about the experiments having functional digestive systems. No, these aren't just haunted toys. These are actual living and breathing organic creatures, which in a sense makes the game all the more terrifying.
Again, I'm just surprised how barely anyone has touched on this.
I’ve talked about this a bunch. I mentioned this way back in one of my original theories when talking about the dolls around the factory containing blood.
The problem is, we don’t know the exact process yet. It could literally be a demonic ritual for all we know at this point.
Right? Everyone keeps saying “souls” like they’re the haunted FNAF animatronics.
No I’m pretty sure their literal human brains have been shoved inside these artificial bodies.
Isn't that similar to fnaf? Souls + characters?
SuperHorrorBro’s theory videos addressed that theory/similar versions, I’d definitely recommend his channel too
@@Tericho Actually, you do have a point. I'm a bit behind on all the theories on Poppy Playtime so yeah, my bad. Thanks 😅
I think poppy changes her tone because she was probably told by mommy long legs that the player will not be able to make it out of her tests to save poppy cause they were rigged from the jump. When the player DOES make it, poppy realizes time is of the essence and cannot afford to be jovial with the player. She can probably sense that exp. 1006 is out on the prowl and that she needs to hurry. It may even have been 1006 or some other character we havent met yet that snatched poppy off the train as she was speaking at the end of the chapter. The fact we crash near the ‘playcare’ indicates to me that we may see an enemy similar to the daycare attendant from fnaf security breach with split personalities and behavior patterns depending on whether the lights are on or off
If you listen to the dialogue at the beginning she says “listen, I need you to trust me.” As if she was about to tell us about not leaving and the train and this and that, but mommy interrupted, though I just think this.
@@TehDJGoofy i think she was just going to tell the player to jump into the gaping hole mommy pulled her down into, seeing as you had to slide down there to progress to the area with the train
@@Myhandle372 true, it could’ve went like this, “I need you to trust me, go down this hole, it’ll descend us deeper into the factory” or something like that
Maybe... though she sounds really dead when she says the lines, asking "did you kill her? Good. I'll board the train now. We must go." It sounds like she's a zombie. She asks if we killed MLL and then says "good" in a dead robotic tone. And why would she say "I'll board the train now" then follow it with "We must go?" Why not just say, "we must go" if she was really insistent we get going? Her saying she'll board the train feels like an unnecessary detail she's slipped in or rather someone else has made her say to sound normal.
The daycare thing doesnt make sense to me because this isnt fnaf
I think the main problem with this theory is that mommy long legs doesn't really show any signs of having different personalities. Her behavior is pretty consistent. And besides that, the file says nothing about conditioning. It just says that the children calm her down. It also says she hates the staff and that she'll attack them if they get too close. And our character used to work at the factory.
3:53 The last sentence of her file literally says "conditioning can begin".
I have a theory on when poppy was taken by Mommy Long Legs after we crushed her with the machine poppy was more cold being said that would give us some theory's onto why Poppy got so cold and wanted the protagonist to stay because they were to perfect aditionally adding onto that we see that Poppy was stuck in webs of some sort and the protagonist helps her she seems really different in our perspective Poppy might have been tortured by Mommy because in the end of chapter one Poppy says "Mommy doesn't like guests" it explicitly explains to us she doesn't want us here and another type of theory instead of Poppy being tortured by Mommy she might have been controlled by Mommy and we all know that the toys are actual people and none of them have real eyes but poppy does I think the first person who commented are correct about the prototype taking their eyes and other parts to create itself a body and I think that the prototype is after Poppy next trying to get her eyes but her eyes are real so they are from an actual person so when someone was getting experimented they took the peoples eyes and put them in the toys but they were taken bye that entity called the prototype so yuh
If anything, Mommy Long Legs is displaying sociopathic behavior. She seems to take pleasure with the idea of the protagonist suffering. After all, she does mention if he doesn't get in line she'll eat his organs while he's still alive. The switch described is actually what is called murder eyes. Cat's do this when they focus in on prey, moments before striking. Which means she's dead set on killing the protagonist. But all will be revealed by the end, so I'm not saying he's wrong
There was also something else that make me think that this theory as a bit shaky.
1. Poppy change in personality was before she got kidnap. Saying "You need to trust me" in a monotone voice similar to when you rescue her in the end.
2. Before you enter the room with the big hole, you can hear Poppy humming with an echoing effect as if she was in the vents, but when you open the door, she's in the middle of the room while the echoing humming is still there. What's more she's looking away from you like it's hiding the fact that that Poppy isn't actually humming.
3. Unless I miss it, there was no vent in that room with the hole, despite the fact the Poppy was travelling around using the vents.
All this suggest that this is not the real Poppy, but maybe a prototype of Poppy. None of this necessary suggest that the condition theory is wrong, but I think that Poppy's change in personality is because this is not the same Poppy, but possibly be a Poppy that fail to replicate the person that the creator wanted to bring back.
@@Votris11 yeah that sounds better and more of what I thought the video was going to be about
I don't think Poppy is evil, even after chapter two's ending. She betrayed us by keeping us there, sure, but she has a pretty good reason. She wants us to stop the horrors that are happening in the factory, and she was probably too scared to just ask because we used to work there.
Also, her behavior at the beginning might be explained by the case. We don't know exactly how long she was in there, just that it was a long time. She probably didn't even know what state the factory was in and was discovering some of the true horrors for the first time right along side us. She had some pretty first hand experience on how bad it was when she was taken by Mommy Long Legs, seeing the state of her mind and how violent the toys are.
She probably had the full intention of escaping with us like she said at the beginning, but then she realized how bad it was and decided she had to try and stop it, and in her tiny doll body, she can't do it alone.
That's my theory anyway, we'll find out more about in chapter three I'm sure but until then, this is what I believe.
i actually like this theory and it makes SENSE!! it explains why her tone was so happy and eager in the beginning to being scarred and kinda angry near the end. bravo on the theory!!
Like your theory, I don't want her to be evil, it would be too cliché
@@dp_saul Exactly! Yet so many people are convinced she is
It's just a theory. A GAME THEORY
I’m not sure why more people aren’t saying this. I mean she looks traumatized afterwards.
For kissy missy I feel like back then she was programmed to be kind and friendly especially around the staff [and children of course]. So I think when Kissy missy saw us, they knew we used to be one of the staffs-
Personally I believe that Long Legs doesn’t really have a split personality. Previous interactions with her show that her happy, caring and “Baby talk” voice and persona is an act, this is especially noted after you beat the whack a Wuggy game. She seems to force herself to retain her childish personality to congratulate us and give up the code. This is further supported by the statues game, where it becomes clear that she had no intentions of just giving up the third code, as she begs the player to come back up and in return she would hold up her end of the game. And when she realizes that her motherly nature won’t work on us anymore, she gets angry, but never completely drops the motherly facade when with us, which could be attributed to her conditioning having a permanent effect on her mannerisms. As for her eyes, if you examine more closely you can see that her irises are still green, meaning her eye change is simply due to her pupils dilating.
As for Poppy, I think she wants justice of some sort for what happened at the factory all those years ago, and realizing she can’t do it herself, she’s forcing us to do so. Basically an “the ends justify the means” situation.
I believe it’s her realizing a few things -
(1) she’s a really small and ‘normal’ toy, so the things she can do is very limited compared to the others.
(2) She saw all the feats the player has done, and because of the first point she doesn’t want to lose her best chance at getting the job done.
What job
@@caioaugusto3138 what ever she has planned to do
@@caioaugusto3138 Probably killing the Prototype.
She still seems a little... off at the end. If she really was sweet, then why did she kidnap us instead of just asking us to help her?
@@alexjewett7455 Why would poppy just straight up tell the player "Hey can you like go deeper into the factory, stop the prototype and set every wrong in this factory right?", anyways? I mean the player clearly wanted to get out and plus the only thing they were told to was to just find the flower and that's it nothing more so it was her instinct that told her to just get to the point.
READ THE TEST SUBJECT FORM AT 9:04 !
If you read the very last line you can see them talking about something inside statues, and as the writer is finishing the sentence, the pen appears to drag off the page asif the writer was snatched
i theorised that this could be mommy long legs killing the staff - because mommy mentions to us when we are in statues that we deserve to die alone because we once worked there. In another note theres also said that mommy is very hostile towards the staff. it could be that mommy tries to stop the experiments and tries to save the children.
Wow! I didn’t notice that, good eye! This probably confirms that whatever happened inside the factory to make it shut down, happened during testing. Very interesting…
And that kids assigned toy is candy cat too
The unfinished part is probably orphans as she seams to be assigned to the watch room to calm her down
I went back to look and you’re right. I also noticed that the grading seems a bit off. The kid is rated per “game” on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 seeming to be the highest, based off the first game’s explanation of “very accurate and fast, few mistakes”, but she’s rated a 4 on the third game with nothing but complaints about focus rather than a 2 or 1 where the pen drags off
So there's been some thoughts going through my head after your playthrough of Poppy Playtime and I'd like to share them.
My main issue is who wrote the letter. We've assumed that Poppy must have wrote it, after all the message asks us to "find the flower". But here's my issue. How could Poppy ever be able to write the letter, while in the form of coma/stasis. Not to mention that the language she is using doesn't seem to be that of a child's. Assuming the flower in the message is the drawn flower outside Poppy's room, then the one who wrote this letter was someone who's associated with Poppy in some form or another.
Now, I've got 2 guesses. One is that the write is actually Kissy Missy and the other is experiment 1006 .
Kissy Missy: We know that Playtime Co. has been experimenting on children, turning them into toys. We also know that the children were given toys to bond with. The stronger the bond, the better their affiliation with the character the toy represents. Thus the more successful the transformation of the children to the toys and the characters they represent. We've assumed that the letter was written by a child, wishing for people to come to the abandoned factory. That's because of the use of ALL capitals and the grammar misteikes. So what if the one who wrote this is Kissy Missy, who is friendly enough and doesn't seem to wish to be an obstacle for the player? She in fact was helpful towards us. And from what we know, she wasn't confined anywhere like Poppy. Not to mention that the message states that the Staff[We] is still in the factory. Why would Poppy call herself a part of the Staff instead of someone who had been working in the factory.
Exp.1006: We know that experiment 1006(I will call be calling him Ex6 from now on) is a very brutal experiment. He has killed guards, attacked personnel and is probably responsible for the deaths of many of the toys. He also wants to escape and is extremely intelligent. If he wanted to attract someone, he could probably write a letter. As for the mistakes, I believe they are intentional. We all assumed that it's a child's writing but what if Ex6 did this on purpose to make us, the player, or whomever else believe that the ones that are stuck there are children? We learn from Mammy Long Legs that the player used to be an employee there. We don't know whether or not we were sinister, only that we used to work here. And since your theory of us being toys seems to be correct, we could assume that we are like Mammy Long Legs [An employee that worked with children or was aware of their existence]. Thus seeing an innocent message like this, would make us think that there are children in danger. And that would only lead to us being caught in Ex6's Web. It is either using us to escape or to become stronger or even to defeat some obstacles like Huggy Waggy and MLL. Of course, there is a chance that Ex6 was not expecting us to defeat Huggy Waggy, but instead hoped that we'd die trying to collect our dead bodies.
In other words, Ex6 and Kissy Missy were free to roam the facility(and find the necessary tools to write the letter) and do seem to have a goal in mind by reaching Poppy.
When you hear poppy get interrupted near the end you hear an alarm clock so I think experiment 1006 is to blame for it maybe needing poppy for something
Here’s my theory personally: in playtime for the ‘toys’ have the consciousness of children (their consciousness were transferred after experiments were done to see who was best fit) and then very traumatic eprermients were done for a very long time, now when you look at it most toys seem to have multiple personalities and depending on the ages these experiments started this could have caused these children to from DID or OSDD which would explain why they all have multiple personalities that can be triggered by multiple things. Example: mommy long legs. With her you can see her personality completely change depending on the person near by and if you check her file you can see she is very friendly and motherly to the children and other experiments but can be VERY hostile to staff and after ‘conditioning’ had happened (I assume putting them through shit till they get their act together) more ‘personalities’ were created. It would make a lot of sense these children became systems with their trauma Because these ORPHANS already had trauma when they came, were consantly under supervision and put through a lot of testing then they were put through the traumatic experience of having their consciousness transferred into toys and then were put through even more that is currently unknown but we can assume it wasn’t pretty. Not to mention after every employee was killed these toys were abandoned for many years where we don’t exactly know what happened. This could have caused more trauma to them and made more alters. This would explain why in chapter 2 poppy was very cheerful and very childlike(could have been a system little) but by the end, after she was kidnapped by mommy long legs and put through a traumatic event, she was very dark and serious which was a complete personality change from who she was at the beginning
My personal thoughts from a comment on another of your videos go as such:
Huggy-Wuggy ONLY got aggressive when you tried to go further into the building, thus attempting to stop you. It's possible that all the toys share the same understanding that Experiment 1006 MUST NOT be let out, and they think (though aren't 100% sure) you're trying to do just that.
Kissy-Missy didn't attack because of a single factor (in my opinion anyway) she had a belief that Mommy Long-Legs would be the one to stop you, allowing her to get back to her duty of making sure Experiment 1006 wasn't getting out.
Finally Mommy Long-Legs screamed and pleaded with you when she was getting grinded, and said "Don't let me become part of him!" before dying. It's plausible to think that the other toys and the children who didn't survive the process understood the danger of what 1006 was and is.
My personal theory is that within the toys there's a permanent struggle going on within them for control; the side that is programmed to stop Experiment 1006 from getting out by any means necessary, the human part of them that just wants to leave (most prevalent in Poppy, so far) and the "battle" when they're freaking out and can't decide which side is in control.
And the player might be the one to stop 1006 and no doubt die in the process
Probably become a toy and at the same time, a symbol of light, the one who ended 1006
Here's an interesting question: We opened the case, but who shoved aside that blockage so we could reach the door? And how did Poppy get on the other side of the door? She'd be too small to reach the handle and open it.
Clearly Mummy Long Legs DEFINATELY didn't want to help us - so who did it and then disappeared without harming Poppy or us?
Poppy was awake so only she would have seen and known - and she said nothing.
On a different track:
Poppy was produced on a toyline. I don't see an established timeline where Poppy production ceased.
There's no way to tell just how many Poppy's could actually still be inside this factory.
Mm I firmly believe Kissy Missy is the only known _good_ character in the game. I hate MOB games because of the awful things they’ve done to fans and more, but I must admit their workers know exactly how to make a compelling and interesting story
@PG Animation Studios How would Poppy reach any vents in that room? She's extremely small.
And even if she did somehow access the vents, that still doesn't explain how the door was suddenly cleared so we could access it after we opened her case.
Poppy would need PHENOMENAL strength to have shifted the obstruction to reveal the door to us.
@@moistwrmonastring1017 Agree on both counts.
Kissy Missy did seem to have difficulty using her hand to move the lever for us further into the game, but carrying Poppy could make that possible.
@@moistwrmonastring1017 Kissy Missy is just like Huggy Wuggy, we only seen Kissy once yknow. But I 100% agree MOB games is horrible company, but they make a decent horror story
@@DiscoTimelordASD in the game there was an mention that huggy wuggy is realy obedient what if kissy missy is as well so my theory is that huggy is obedient to the weird hand creature and kissy is to poppy so it culd be posible she was sent to hellp us by poppy
Personally, I reckon that Poppy was going to fully explain herself and her plan during the "I'm going to need you to trust me" bit right before she was pulled into the hole, but after being stuck with Mommy Long Legs and fully knowing what's going on in the toy factory, stuff that we as the player haven't fully grasped yet, she becomes desperate and more serious to complete her mission, regardless of what happens to the player or how they feel about it.
As for Mommy's personality shift, I watched several other playthroughs of the chapter, and to me it always felt like she was just putting on a fake persona of a friendly happy-go-lucky person whilst occasionally letting little bits of her true self out. The "I'll eat your guts while you're still alive" threat being a little tease of what's to come, and during the statues game she literally says that because the player worked at the factory they deserved to die, and when the player failed to properly end the game the way she wanted it to, you can hear her trying to maintain that persona while also trying not to snap into her real crazy self, which does happen when the player doesn't go back to her and she finally catches up.
For Mommy, the eyes and her hands change with changing to her "mad and angry" form.
When in happy form she has a kind of "normal" fingers
But when she turns into her mad form, her fingers become long and strong to catch her "prey" faster and with more strength
I hope you get your camera soon. I can't wait to see what will happen in Chapter 3, as well as who's gonna be the next big bad? 🤔
Edit: 5:50, When you look at Poppy's eyes, it looks like they've changed.
Does Poppy have a more... highly saturated colour palette by the end of the chapter or is the lighting just really different for the comparison images? To me it looks like she has redder hair as well by the end (her dress seems a bit more blue too). The only reason I ask is that I don't know if there are other Poppy dolls out there, but if there are, is it possible that our Poppy got swapped for another, by Mommy or somebody or somebody else, and left there for us? Because that would explain things if it isn't just the lighting making her look more saturated to me. She's a newer doll, so her colours are brighter due to the current lack of wear and tear.
@florapetals I SO AGREE! I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, TOO! I'm glad I'm not alone!
yeah i saw it to
I'm curious if a different model entirely was used at the end of the game
Honestly I got the vibe that she's probably just ticked off after being kidnapped lol, but there's definitely something deeper going on.
Maybe Poppy just swallowed some of Mommy’s webs, that always makes people mad
i feel like their more aggressive personalities would be their original ones, because similar to the animatronics in sister location, these are people who have been trapped and isolated for years and wouldn’t be able to re-enter society even if they wanted to, but because mob games has already been accused of plagiarism i doubt the end of the game will be like the ending of sister location, and the toys are most likely just trying to kill you as a way of getting revenge on one of employees that trapped them in the dolls to begin with
Dont forget Hello Puppets.
Maybe the protag will free the souls while dying themselves?
In SL, the robots are designed to kill. It's unknown whether the children want to kill Michael or it's just the animatronics fulfilling their purpose.
@@kevincomplex oh yea good point
@@kevincomplex or the classic excuse: he looks like william
Thank you for pointing out how real her eyes look and how they change. In every video I've watched I always rewind and compare to make sure I wasn't crazy. I also feel like the line in the tapes about how obedient Huggy Wuggy is can relate to how/why he helped with the key in the first game then attacked us later. Maybe Kissy missy is the same way and they both were under orders by something else to 'help' us.
...did no one notice her hair got longer?! With the side by side comparison for the eyes you see the pigtails and the lock of hair are quite a bit longer. My guess is the second poppy is a later version and the poppy we free is probably the first.
Minitheory: Huggy is a security guard. In the last tape of chapter 2, they say that he is the most obedient experiment. In the first tape in chapter 1, they say that they have lots of surprising security measures. Since Huggy was a successful experiment, just like mommy, he may have gotten a duty in the factory, and it could have been guarding it.
Also, huggy has the factory key and the alarms start going off when you see him.
Which might be why he had the key… or maybe he just grabbed it, but interesting theory indeed!
That and the fact that alarms start blaring when Huggy first starts chasing you, meaning you probably tripped one of the invisible alarms.
this is 100% correct
The ending was actually foreseen from Chapter 1 from the screens, and desperation of Poppy to pop out from the screen dialogues. She shows the bond between you and her. She is trapped in the factory and wanting to escape. But her objectives differ when she somehow knew about the Prototype being unleashed, and wants to know more about the escaped experiment. After all, she was the first official experiment that was successful, as the first living doll. I think she is connected with the Prototype than what we think.
Hm, interesting.
She may be the daughter of Elliot Ludwig and Elliot may be the Prototype
Two things I noticed:
1) Poppy’s bubbly voice and playful demeanor at the beginning of C2 was a noticeable contrast not only to the end of C2, but also the end of C1 after we free her. She sounded more somber and almost in disbelief when she says “you opened my case..”
2) I think there is something different about the history of the toys with human-like eyes vs the toys with eyes like Huggy’s and Kissy’s. For one thing, notice how during gameplay Mommy and Poppy talk but Huggy & Kissy don’t.
Just some things I hadn’t heard discussion about and figured at least some other folks had to have picked up on. What do yall think??
I didnt notice the talking/eyes thing! Thats crazy!
same theory for me, I also wondered, how big is the factory, how many experiments, how many monsters/enemies/allies, and the lore is insane, plus more
i also tried playing and got to chapter 2 BUT when I saw poppy in the beginning her hair looked childish and innocent *THEN* when you see her near the end her hair is much more red and more copied for difference so I think idk if this is true BUT i have a theory poppy is still kidnapped and we freed the wrong poppy, if so maybe on the last chapter we find the real poppy so I hope you can use this info I learned to help with a theory for the last chapter!
Heres my theory toys have programs that make them be nice but over time they get more sinister because the program isn't finished like huggy wuggy hes progam is done but for the other toys it isn't the same as him
I know the phrase "better half" is often just a term of endearment, but what if it's literal?
What if she is literally the stronger, smarter and faster and overall better version of Huggy and will have a more premeditated and prolonged plan of attack and revenge? It would be very interesting narratively to have the first sentient toy be Huggy and have it come full-circle with Kissy Missy as the last sentient toy before confronting 1006.
or maybe it just means Kissy is the kind and helpful one of the two?
Unused Poppy voice lines (source: discord)
You did it, against all odds! You defeated mommy! I was so scared she'd put me back in that case. But you freed me once again. You are perfect. Too perfect to lose. I’m sorry I cannot let you leave yet.
I’ve never met anyone like you (giggles).
You have the potential. I know you came to find the ones who disappeared all those years ago. But they’re gone. They’ve been gone for a long time.
Do you know how long I have been stuck in that case? Well, too long. I had so much time to think and reflect, time to figure out exactly what I would do when free. We’ll set things right. Terrible things have happened, and I am the cause. Being able to exist as a doll,it has killed so many people.
So much is unknown to you. Where do I even begin? But I know that whatever I need you to do, you can fix everything! I see it inside you. You are capable. This train is now heading towards playcare. It’s the best place to start looking. I will - - (Alarm Clock beeps). What - - What is - -
Poppy (Full ending speech of Chapter 2)
I wonder if there’s a ‘trigger’ for the personality switch? For example, Huggy changes into ‘security/intruder’ mode as you get further into the factory and Mommy changes after the player ‘cheated’.
There's some evidence that supports the trigger idea in chapter one because the first tape you find mentioned security measures and huggy didn't turn violent until the player was progressing too far for him to allow. As for cheating as a trigger since mommy long legs was placed in an area designed to test children I could see her becoming upset/angry but the isolation affected her behavior enough to become more of a violent sadist.
@@dakotafogarty5901 and then there’s Poppy, when the player grabbed the third part of the Train Ticket, they also had the Grab Pack on Poppy’s face
now this makes me think again, the reason why "Poppy" told us that we were too perfect to lose was probably because we managed to pass through all the games without mistakes. Dying or losing does not count to the canon lore so this makes me have second thoughts..
"Yesterday is the past"
"Tomorrow is a mystery"
"Today is a gift"
Be always happy and cheerful, because you are always the best
Poppy must want us to stay here because she’s seen what the player is capable of and that they can survive such monsters so she decided to keep us here in order for her safety and escape
4:31 I think another thing that you missed as a detail for Mommy Long Legs' "transformation" is her hands, you can see the one on the left looks normal until it stretches out into that horrifying claw like shape
She was probably suffering from trauma after being stuck since it reminds her of her chase she was stuck in. She mentions how she would've been trapped back in her case therefore she wouldn't be in a good mood. She's not evil however she's been through a lot. She's making you help save the factory because your character would attempt to leave it.
She's not evil however she's sneaky. It's also the same Poppy that's why she knows you in chapter 2.
Theory: if you focus on poppy's hair you can see white coler on the tip of her hair and when at the end the tip of her hair changes to red: if the tip of her hair was white means shes helpfull and if the tip of her hair was red mean shes mad
This is my theory: What if, they are trying to keep you there to swap places? As in, the dolls are just souls trapped in a doll body, and they only way for them to be human again is to transfer bodies with someone else. It’s maybe why Mommy Long Legs kidnapped Poppy to try and keep her away from you so she can escape herself, and maybe why all the dolls are trying to attack you or the protagonist. It is because they want to have the feeling of being alive again. Also, you can see Mommy Long Legs fingers growing as she gets more angry or aggressive. I dunno I just want to point that out 🤷
Poppy changed her mind at the end and decided that the both of us can't leave the factory just yet. After learning of how capable we are in the factory, she saw that there might be hope of helping the toys after all, so she needs us to complete tasks that will hopefully result in the freedom of everyone in the factory. She's not evil(for now at least), she's just determined to make things right. Only then I think will we be free to go home and HOPEFULLY(I'm wishing with all my might on this one!) we'll take Poppy home with us.
The process of transformation is really painful and that pain might be the reason for the angry side of the dolls and since we are an ex employee they are mad at us for ( maybe forcefully ) doing this to them
Quick question Tericho
What time was it when you posted this?I know time zones are a thing but it’s 2am where I am and I hope you’re getting enough sleep
Make sure to take care of yourself okay?
Thank you but don’t worry! I finished it last night and scheduled it for 10am my time!
It’s 5 AM for me
@@Tericho Good to know. Glad you’re taking care of yourself
Man , today's society lacks people you 💕💕
About Kissy I feel like one difference between Huggy helping you in Chapter 1 & Kissy helping you in chapter 2 is that Huggy later in the EXACT SAME chapter tries to kill you but Kissy doesn't even though she probably could have in chapter 2. Also Huggy kinda looks like he's trying to hide the fact that he's alive while helping you in chapter 1 while Kissy doesn't try to hide that from you when she helps.
6:50
Kissy missy probably wants us to uncover the mistery of what happened to the toys, she tells you with the way she looks at you that she needs your help to get huggy back to normal, but if not possible, to help the others we may not know. This is probably one of the prototypes trick to kill everyone, as he is very VERY smart.
What do you think?
the enlargening of the eye pupil happenes when exposed to less light
this might mean that when mommy long legs enters "hostile" mode enlarges the pupil is so she can chase you through the dark
I think Poppy is just pure evil.
1) Poppy is always hidden away (or hiding and watching)
2) The other 'toys' are what chase you (Poppy commands to them)
3) She's very aware, and wants our attention (she apparently gets kidnapped by Mommy Long Legs and put in a case, she also gets dragged into the hole and used like a puppet by Mommy Long Legs (I think it's all a plan, she wants our attention by making herself a 'victim', she may even have Munchausen Syndrome
4) The game's called Poppy Playtime (playtime for Poppy, you're her toy)
its interesting that the toys are conditioned into having more friendly personalities after experiencing some of possibly the worse pain in both physical and mental. But the conditioning wouldn't stay after 10 years, not unless it is consistently done over time; mommy literally said that she hasn't even seen the place up and running for years and that she hasn't seen the children in those same years. She was conditioned to be their mother figure, to help escort them from game to game. Its likely that part of the conditioning she had vanished way before the player arrived, because she wasn't able to be around children thus cracking the company's ideal personality to mix with the anger of the human.
It makes me wonder because Huggy was apparently intelligent but also obedient due to conditioning that maybe huggy's response with helping us but also attacking us is that, while he knows the player was once an employee, but we weren't someone who is meant to be in a certain area. Perhaps the employees who learnt about the dark secrets by entering prohibited rooms were met with a grisly fate regardless of willingness to keep silent.
i think that the good poppy is the real one and mommy killed the real one and replaced her with the bad one
If I was captured by a giant pink spider and held against my will, I would imagine I wouldn't be very happy either. xD
Hi, I really enjoyed the video. My opinion is that there are two identities in each doll. One is the souls of humans used for experiments and the other is the identity that the factory has placed on the dolls. For example, when mommy long leg starts counting, we notice two different types of tones, one is the voice of the person being tested and one is the voice intended for mom. It is possible that part of the person's personality is trying to express itself in the form of anger because of the experiments that have been done on the method, but the identity programmed on the mommy long leg is trying to prevent it. And I think the only thing that is different is the 1006 test. I feel that this test was not a single human being, but a combination of several human beings. And completely in the form of a wild animal with intelligence we may encounter beyond man.
My only question is what is the reason for collecting other doll parts because it does not seem to have a problem in terms of physical strength. sorry if it was long.
I think there might be two poppy's within the factory as that might explain the personality shift and the changing in motives between the beginning of the chapter and the end. But im not too sure
Now that I think of it there could be 2 Huggies too maybe the evil one trapped him some where and chased us down leading us to poppy??? Maybe we can see the inoccent Huggy in the future chapters???
I am not sure tho
I'm pretty sure it's not that deep. Poppy has been trapped in that case for so long and she knows what has happened in the factory. She wanted to do something about it but she isn't strong. Poppy actually wanted to help us escape considering that she is leading us to the right way... Her motives changed since Poppy saw us beating and outsmarting Mommy Long Legs. (And probably knew that we also beat Huggy). That is a big thing since these live toys are bigger and stronger than us. That's why Poppy chose to not let you escape the factory just yet. She thought that if she wanted things to change, then she's gonna have us, the players, to help her do something about it and of course, she ain't gonna sit things out and let the player do everything. She was also gonna help us but then she disappeared again.
Yea, this is exactly what I imagined!
It just doesn't sit right that she was acting like a friend, one of the only nice things in this factory (besides kissy for now) and suddenly she betrayed us. Not to mention she sounded kind of soulless after she was "saved"
Betrayed? Well, i guess, but maybe it was necessary, who knows?
I don't think that counts as "Betrayed", like poppy says we are very useful, "perfect" to do things that poppy wants us (The MC) to do.
So poppy don't want us to escape the factory and trapping us are because she need our help.
You saying the living toys have 2 personality's and saying one of those is a more 'playful' personality, reminds me of the title 'Poppy Playtime'. Makes a lot of sense don't ya think? - Also, I don't think Huggy Wuggy is still strong enough from that large fall to drag himself up to somewhere safe, especially with those noodle arms he and Kissy Missy have. I think, just like how Mommy got taken, Exp.1006 took him someplace for its "evil" plan.
0:01 why is "Massacre" even a word in a kids game?
no no no no why is it even a button?
It is clear Poppy wants to be human again and get out. If this happened to me I would want to end it all. So getting attacked just made that worse.
Kissy might have helped us because of Poppy.
The two sides were present when we did something good and wrong in the eyes of the dolls. Huggy Good - walking around doing nothing. Bad - when we wanted to go deeper in the factory. Mommy good - play the games. Bad - when we broke the rules of the game.
What if we are the mystery tube staff member. Brain washing is going on so who is to say we got brain washed and sent away. Having a letter to bring us back may have started us on a journey to remember the place 100% and not the smoke screen. Mommy spoke to us at the end like she thought we knew what she was on about.
The place looks run down because it has been shut down for years with only the dolls looking after it.
I was also thinking that we’re the mystery tube staff. Only one employee name is completely knocked off. I find suspicious since the place is so decrepit and that name is the only one with it’s letters on the floor.
I don't actually think that Poppy's intentions are evil, but I don't think she has the player's best interests at heart either.
First off, who is the player? I personally think that they're the unnamed scientist from the videos, he does mention that he'll be back with one breakthrough, and if that's the case, the toys have a lot of reason to dislike the player. At the one room with all of the names over the door, one of them has been removed and scattered on the floor, since the names are company executives, we can assume the unnamed door is the unnamed scientist, which if it's also the player, answers a number of questions.
1. Why was the player lured back to the factory? (Poppy was sealed, so she didn't summon the player).
2. In conjuncture with the above question, why would a random employee matter enough to be summoned back to the factory?
3. Why would a random employee even go back to the factory? (It has to be someone of influence, who has a particular interest in returning there, the scientist states that he'll be back).
4. Why would Poppy need the player's help, even after getting on the train? (The scientist might be able to help change her to a more suitable body, where a random employee could only help her escape).
Here is what I personally think may have happened, I'll try my best to lay it out in a rough timeline, note that this is a hypothesis based on pooled information, so I'll be filling in some of the gaps:
1. Stella Greyber joins Playtime Co during the 1940-50s, Elliot Ludwig is impressed by her, they become intimately involved and she gives birth to a daughter (Not my theory, but it makes sense).
2. Daughter is likely killed by a tragic accident in the factory, pushing Ludwig to find a way of bringing her back to life as a toy, and so Poppy is born.
(Stella Greyber's video shows Poppy's hand, and her voice actress is the same, implying a connection. But Stella cannot be Poppy because she was still alive after Mommy Long Legs was made, as her voice is on the recording at the Game Station).
3. Even after Poppy was created, Ludwig was still determined to find a way of bringing his daughter back to life, this is when the 'Unnamed Scientist' joins the company (I'm going to just call him Dr. X for now), and showed a lot of merit with his innovative ideas, much of which were questionably ethical in nature (Probably 1970s).
4. Dr. X convinces Ludwig that the methods used to produce Poppy could provide a great benefit to society in the long run, extending human lives indefinitely, Ludwig agrees to work with Dr. X, with the understanding that Ludwig himself is used for the first experiment.
5. Ludwig places Playtime Co in Stella's hands, and undergoes the surgery, where he becomes experiment 1006, the Prototype (Could be Sunni Buddi/Daisy; Daddy Long Legs seems unlikely, as they wouldn't use the Spider theme twice for a main enemy, where Daisy is on Ludwig's desk, and was used in a recycling poster, reusing parts is something the Prototype does, so it could have been foreshadowing).
6. Over time, Ludwig gradually loses his memories and sanity, so they kept him isolated and monitored in the factory.
7. Stella turns out to be less suited for her position than Ludwig had hoped, and is easily influenced by the rest of Paytime Co's executives, granting them more influence in the company, which gradually becomes less and less humane with their experiments and treatment of the staff.
8. Dr. X starts experimenting on orphans, as Stella desires longevity and the notion of living as a toy, she sets her morals aside in favor of 'it's all for the good of humanity'.
9. 1980s, Leith Pierre, a fierce executive who is extremely loyal to his position in the company, takes up the surgery becoming experiment 1170, Huggy Wuggy (Which is why Huggy's hand is shown in the Closing hours video, it's also why he's seen hiding behind a door, he's getting even for all the pranks that were made on him when he was human).
10. Having lost all influence in Playtime Co, Ludwig is disgusted by the fact that his company is now experimenting on orphaned children, with his sanity deteriorating, Ludwig attempts an escape and rallies the other experiments, which start attacking the employees; Huggy Wuggy, who has been a loyal follower of Ludwig for years, willingly complies.
11. Dr. X flees the factory, no one else escapes.
12. A hierarchy is created in the factory, Ludwig's sanity is all but gone, though he sits at the top of the food chain as the Prototype, gradually modifying his body using the parts of broken toys, as he never lost his obsession with creating new things (The bone on his arm could be from Ludwig, the female security guard or a randomly killed employee, but shows how far his sanity has degraded, along with the hatred he now feels towards the direction his company had taken).
13. The Prototype has one final grudge that's on his mind, Dr. X still lives, so he summons Dr. X to Playtime Co, to settle things once and for all.
14. Dr. X decides to return to Playtime Co, perhaps regretting his past misdeeds, but he's also applied modifications to his own body, so he is no longer a normal human either.
15. Dr. X frees Poppy, at first she plans to use him to escape, thinking that he might be able to help her acquire a new body, but later decides that Playtime Co has become too dangerous to leave alone, and that every toy must never be allowed to leave alive, including Dr. X and herself.
For a final thought, if Stella was made into a toy, I think the only likely candidate would be Kissy Missy, because as stated earlier, Stella was still alive after Mommy Long Legs was created, and Poppy was created long before her.
We also hear Mommy Long Legs say: "Obey the rules, or I'll tear you apart, and eat your insides while you're still alive"; note the use of the words 'tear you apart' and 'insides'. There are a number of ways the devs could have written this, but since it's assumed that the player might actually be a toy, 'insides' could also mean 'organic parts'.
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Hm, Poppy’s little tone shift was one of the things that I was wondering about the most after Chapter 2 and while her having a Dual Personality was something that did cross my mind as well,
However, that all the other toys has Dual Personalities as well? Can we really safely assume that? Actually, the whole “playful and innocent to straight up sinister Dual Personalities” thing, the way you describe it didn’t make the idea of it entirely clear to me, so could you perhaps elaborate on what you meant by it, by any chance?
no its because poppy had to have a change of heart she knows what you did to Huggy and mommy your strong enough to fight prototype to her and that's why she wants to start looking at Playcare. so chapter 3 will be about prototype poppy and we all know you or we might play as poppy and more of kissy missy poppy is aware that you think `she betrayed you that's why she says in a darker almost sad mode sorry I cant let you leave yet i heard some crying in the background as well so maybe you should try to see do some google research and I will see if I find something to for my theory and Elliot Ludwig went missing right? and prototype had human bones weird so what if Elliot sold himself to the company and became prototype but something happened and now he uses the toys ONLY I MEAN ONLY IF THEY MET FATE so prototype will rebuild himself having these parts "mommy Huggy bunzo Wack a wuggies" maybe even Pj pug a pillar and in chapter 3 prototype will be the villain we are fighting and your right about 1 thing we have to take the place down if there is a chapter 4 5 6 7 8 9 maybe 10 one of them will end with us taking the place down and every one the toy we fight we kill they meet fate and move onto the next boss and please pin me sorry if there is so much to read well you can always improve your reading right??? also I cant let you leave yet also means she is bringing justice to all the orphans that were tested on and mommy long legs kissy Huggy bunzo the Wack a wuggies Pj pug a pillar she means restore what the workers took from them. and stop the dark things ok ok I'm done bye
I was thinking Poppy wants to help you leave, but she also needs your help to set things right. On top of that, I also like the idea of the soul in her being only partially twisted and corrupted, so she switches between personalities (similar to Sun/Moondrop in FNAFSB)
i think its trama or the memory of being recaptive probably a mix of hating being weak and rage at her situation
I've been a fan of these theories for a while now, so I'd like to point out some stuff. They used the "subjects" actual organs (example, heart and brain) to make the toys for a more realistic feel. Therefore the subjects consciousness is the same in the toys. They get brainwashed beforehand, but the bipolarity in some of the toys could be the brainwashing wearing off, and the subjects realising what they got themselves into, therefore the cause. The theory of this applying to Poppy is, in fact, understandable, but there's a hole in the theory. In chapter one, we were introduced to an employee named Stella Graybur in a tape. We see her name on one of the slides. She is Poppy's subject, and I assume this because in the VSH tape she even talks about returning to childhood and wanted it to last forever. What better way to do that than become a walking, talking doll that the children play with? But, she _was_ describing her desire to become a child once again, which means she actively wanted to be a subject. BUT I have another idea for this. Poppy was probably traumatized before we came along, by experiment 1006 going on a massacre. She only needs us to do what she wants to prevent 1006 to kill ever again, we killed Mommy Long Legs, after all. At first, she acted cheerful and tried to get us out, then finding that we could survive and can destroy the other experiments, realizing this could be stopped altogether, so she prevents us from leaving because she WANTS us to stop 1006. She only sounds monotone and sinister because of the traumatic memories flooding back to her. I'm not sure if this is canon, but it is a possibility. But I honestly don't know who came first, 1006 or Poppy, but if 1006 came first, it could be a realization that this was wrong, but with the same intentions to get us out and the realization in the end. Hope you enjoyed reading this.
I wonder if it's not that Poppys second personality came through, but more that she realised she can't ask you nicely. She was going to have you trust her as she did something important, and we were going to go on the train anyway. I think after Mommy Long Legs, Poppy realised she can't play nice. That she'll have to just get you to do what she wants, as 'you're too perfect to lose.' This was her plan the entire time, we were never going to leave, but she will manipulate us into doing what she wants. Is she a villain, I don't think so. I can see her being an anti-hero, one who has to do the dark things to help solve the mystery. But, she could fall into villainy, and that is always an interesting thing
Marie Payne is Mommy Long-Legs... so that explains why- (spoilers - click read more to see it if you seen/played it or don’t mind spoilers!)
“Mommy” bled when you grindered her up...
(Edit: so.. Kissy Missy and HuggyWuggy are friends and our co-workers.??)
I kinda think that one of the reasons why Kissy Missy didn’t have the strength in her arms like Huggy Wuggy did is because, well, she is Kissy Missy. Her capabilities, unlike Huggy, does not have to do with her arms. I think their abilities are in their names. Huggy Wuggy probably has arm strength because he is Huggy Wuggy “he’ll hug you until you pop” lol. I honestly don’t know, but that’s what made sense to me on why Kissy probably could not get the lever on the first try. That’s just not how she was built. So if her name his Kissy, then maybe what she can do has to do with the mouth, similar to Huggy. But then if she’s supposed to be all kissy, lol, then she probably doesn’t have a mouth full of teeth like Huggy Huggy. If she interacted with the kids, then she probably would scare the kids if she had a mouth like that. Maybe more similar to the tiny Huggies. I kinda think she’ll be a good guy due to those things I think. It may be likely that she doesn’t have the qualities of a killing machine like Huggy and that she is on the nice side. But then again, there is that double personality thing, so I may be wrong.
It's also possible Kissy isn't strong because she's in docile mode. Huggy was strong when he went aggressive.
I think a part of Poppy's shift is that she has decided to use us. At the start she isn't aware of how, in her words, Perfect and Capable we are. At the end, she's decided to betray us, and that probably doesn't line up with her friendly side.
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By the way, Now that I'm commenting, I'd like to inform those who don't know yet that the figure for the player is just a faceless yellow mannequin. This means that the protagonist can be whoever or whatever we want them to be eg. A man , a woman or even a toy like one of your theories, that last one(your theory that the protag is a toy) can now be confirmed because the protagonist is whoever or whatever we want. So I choose that the protag is the Drifter from Willy's Wonderland who used to work at Playtime Co. and can't be bothered to fight back against the monsters because he either doesn't feel like it or he's out of Punch Pop soda. It would be pretty cool if the Poppy Playtime movie is a sequel to Willy's Wonderland and the Drifter or Janitor as he's actually called is the protag. This could work because his past and future and Identity is also whatever we want, just like the protagonist in Poppy Playtime. Wow, I talk like a book, don't I?
l think that Mommy Long Legs did something to her! Or... at the beginning did you see that she was not breathing while Mommy said this
l herd that Miss. Poppy was just going to give you the code for the train. Now, how is that fun? Instead why don't we make a game out of it? The game station is still working. It will be just like old times *pretending to be Poppy* and if you win all three games l'll give you the train code *stops pretending to be Poppy* Mommy loves that idea Poppy! oo your going to have so much fun! Head to Musical memory and Mommy will get things started. Obay the rules or l will tare you apart and eat your insides, while your still, alive. ahahahahaha
l think it did something to her!😱
Worth noting with all the discussion of dualistic personalities from these characters that dissociative identity disorder is a real mental illness. Anything these characters have in line with DSM 5 criteria doesn't reflect the reality of experiencing DID, and the real people who do are not manipulative or malicious people.
Tericho goes out of his way to talk about trauma the characters likely all experienced, but don't forget that playing off mental illness is a very longstanding thing done in horror and doesn't represent what the reality of having the mental illness is like at all.
Not trying to suggest anyone consciously suggests those things, but it's important to be conscious of the baggage and real suffering that comes along with uncritically consuming something that misrepresents a real situation or group of people
In the scrapped version of the ending she actually says alot more explaining how she's the cause of everything and wants to fix things and that's why she needs you
Where is it
Wild theory here, but remember when mommy was getting grinded she said “you make me part of him” that’s because the arm that took her head was the “him” when you use mods to fly you can see the arm better and there is a human bone on it, if we go to the water control thing at the bunzo factory we can see huggy wuggy’s hair and blood and i think that huggy was pulled by that same arm so the arm is rebuilding it self with the other monsters.
This is off topic, but I really hope the arm possibly belonging to 1006 is inspired by the Beldam’s metallic hand from Coraline. I know people have been making those connections, however I don’t know if that was intentional by the developers or not, but I really hope it was. That would be so cool if it was actually a reference to Coraline
I kinda think poppy was being kinda similar to Circus Baby in fnaf, y’know, making us trust her, acting, just so she can use us for her own goals. I think poppy’s whole cute sweet personality was an act so we would let our guard down. The whole mommy long legs think may have been a fortunate accident, or poppy knew it would happen and let it happen
It looks more likely that both Poppy and Mommy do have real eyes, since they dilate. They've also probably gone through conditioning but both of their pupils get wide in dark surroundings- as real eyes do to gather more light. Compare it to Huggy and Missy- who eyes are doll-like and thus never dilate. People's eyes will also naturally dilate when they are under stress, which explains why Mommy and Poppy's eyes change according to their emotion. Huggy on the other hand, stays constant between his passive and guard mode.
Also, I think it's very possible that rather than an uncontrolled personality shift, the change is deliberate. Poppy puts up a demure act to get us to trust her, but after we have shown not only a capability but a willingness to kill to get what we want she decides that there is no need to play pretend. We are both well aware of just how far the player will go- so might as well stop acting innocent now. Mommy does effectively the same thing, talking down to us like we were a child. However, we prove to be too resistant and she also decided that if we aren't going to 'play nice' then neither will she.
Thank you! Someone else noted how creepily realistic her eyes are!
Also glad you pointed out Kissy Missy. Kissy Missy fumbles with the switch. It's like she's not used to her body. Like it's her first time using her arm like that and she has to learn how to do it. Meanwhile Huggy Wuggy grabbed the key quickly and effortlessly. Just the way she moves seems very important especially when the scene is designed for us to focus on her hand fumbling with the switch. She also moves like she's slowly comprehending that the switch will likely help us. Again, it's setup for us to look at her head first and notice her clearly thinking about how she can help us. It's slow but it's more learning than calculated.
So I’ve been wondering. Was Huggy Wuggy from chapter 1 always there or did he move there after what happened 10 years ago? Because if he was there before what happened then that would mean he was seen by the public. That would mean the scientists trusted that Huggy wouldn’t act out. The head scientist even mentioned in the tape that Huggy was conditioned with maximum obedience and had limited intelligence. This might be the same for Kissy Missy. If these were people turned into toys how did the scientists know they could for sure limit their intelligence? Maybe they had a different source other than people. Huggy could be seen as almost like a guard dog since he attacked when we got deeper in the factory. But if we are an ex employee and Huggy had this obedience, why did he attack us? Was it that the absence of the scientists not continually conditionally him to not attack employees, or his dual personality is able to finally come out? He could’ve saw us and automatically helped us since that might have been in his conditioning. Like reverting back to something you’re really used to. But he stalks you after he helps you, almost as if he’s deciding to attack you or not. But it could also be experiment 1006 pushed Huggy to attack us. Since Huggy is referred to by the scientists as obedient. How would this obedience change? The death screens mentioned that the prototype “saved” us all. It just makes me wonder. Sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to get this out.
i don't think poppy is evil, if you look at her lines, she wants to fix the factory, she might have thought that huggy wuggy was a fluke and we need to leave but after beating mommy long legs, she knows we can handle ourselves and possibly, just possibly, fix or at least remedy the mistakes of the past.
I honestly think Kissy Missy is just gonna be a special character that will be just Huggy Wuggy but reversed, I think she will help us thru multiple chapters, but she might get kidnapped by something even stronger than Mommy Long Legs just like Poppy got kidnapped. Again, I don't think that Kissy Missy will be aggressive, since she seems so innocent and playful. Also, she doesn't give us the weird look like all characters do, she actually communicates just by moving her eyes, which also gives more chance that she's friendly.
That's my theory.
I think Poppy's evil (or maybe not) she's very mysterious maybe she knows something after all the game is about poppy indeed in the first chapter we saw tv's with Poppy's metion nd process how she was created and also she was trapped in a box maybe ik she said mommy did that.....maybe and after that when we freed her she could have been creating dolls kissy missy could be one of the recent created dolls I don't think kissy missy is evil maybe she's a doll trying to help us or could be a human in disguise trying to make us escape maybe she'll help in next chapter too.....and we in chapter 2 went through all the games which were a "test" Done by playtime co. To sellect kids or people who will turn into dolls whose capable enough maybe Poppy or "someone" Else testing us afterall and at the end of ch. 2 she says "we'll make a good team I want u to stay in the factory I can't let u leave" Maybe she has plans to turn us too..... And the mysterious claw, I think huggy wuggy ain't dead after all he's a doll he's under "repair" And the secret claw also grabbed poppy to the hole maybe poppy saw that "thing" And when mommy long legs was crushed that claw also took her head maybe someone is trying to combine mommy nd huggy wuggy because they were very powerful or maybe mommy's not dead someone's trying to revive her idk just my little theory....... We never escaped the factory too....... :(
My original theory was that Poppy had some sort of two personality thing going on, but I enjoy this theory much better than my own. I enjoyed this theory like a lot and it kind helps me explain my theory like a lot because it's super similar, so thanks for that Tericho
it's funny cause something that really threw me off, is when Mommy was talking to us for the first time while holding Poppy, and Poppy just entered like "doll mode" she didn't move, she didn't struggle, she didn't even dialogue anything, wich is bizarre to say the least, cause its not like a Toy Story situation where "she can't know i can move", so maybe is a self defense mechanism?? idk its just weird
Her mouth was webbed shut
Well with the flying camera or if you look very closely you can see that she had spider web on her mouth so she could not talk
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Keep in mind that some one sent out the initial video cassette and message inviting the ex-employee to return and search for Poppy, that could have been Kissy Missy or someone that's still has yet to appear like that scrambled name at the drop tube area (it has to be a prominent character because most of those names where important people).
Yeah but the person yet to be mention could be the player
it's most likely "Jamie B Honey"
Ok, kinda off topic, but does anyone else think that Poppy kinda looks like Annabelle? Not from the movies but the actual Annabelle doll? I've been thinking about that for quite a few moments.
kissy missy is huggys better half which means she is always friendly. and her outcome was more successful then huggys so huggy was meant to be like kissy missy. experiment 1-0-0-6 well... it wasn’t pretty...Now on to poppys theory poppy was a human who was turned into a toy so the drawings on the wall at the beginning of the game were made by kids who were actually being usd as test subjects to make more toys alive play time co. has sacrificed many people trying to make money the statue of huggy in the first chapter was forced to stand there he didn’t eat or kill for a decade... i might edit this later when I get more information this sentence will be deleted once I edit this
I wonder if at the start she was playful and innocent since she thought you two would be mostly safe and she would be near you a lot more, but after the adventure with Mommy she realized she has to get more serious and dropped trying to be sweet-ish
Like if her plan was to just get on the train and stuff, she could of stayed sweet and explained she wanted to go deeper in a nice way but after dealing with Mommy she just dropped it and almost seemed like "sorry but we're doing this my way"
Also you seeing "bigger eyes" could just be lighting since it is brighter in the start and after you free her, there are lot more shadows and it accentuates her already kinda big doll eyes.. also she was looking up at you in the end while at the start she's looking downwards.. and sometimes people's eyes do look bigger when looking up
Is it weird I kinda want to see one of the toys "properly conditioned"?
Nice catch on the eyes. They definitely look more human when the pupil and and iris of the eye is smaller. The less of you can see of the white part of the eye, the more non-human they look. For example, look at a shark’s eye compared to a human eye.
I just realized, building on your idea that Kissy Missy was transferred more recently, what if a later stage sees the player controlling/playing as Kissy Missy? Long stretchy arm mechanics are still there
Also if u notice poppys hair it's different in small details and reminding every horror game never do things as 'mistakes' they definitely do this on purpose in the beginning poppys hair is more shorter and darker although in the end poppys hair is more lighter and doesn't have that much of details as the first one but maybe it's just the light maybe she's still the same poppy but we can also see why dose mommy in the end is more dusty and broken? and if u notice experience 1006 'prototype' dragged mommy while she was destroyed and we see huggys hair on the wall with blood maybe experience 1006 dragged him as will and every main 'villain' get ended up killed like how in chapter one huggy is the main one who we get chased from in the end and get killed and in chapter two mommy long legs is the main one who we also get chased by and get ALSO killed so if poppy was the main villain in chapter three will she ALSO chase us and we kill her?
Is it just me or did poppy's hair changes, her bangs, so that means the poppy at the end of the game is not poppy at the beginning.
And I've watched RUclipsrs playing poppy playtime chapter 2 and poppy's hair is gray at the beginning "only her middle bangs".
Haven't you ever met people like that? People that have a default friendly personality with you just until you give them what they want?
She was so friendly with you because you had no value before (or might have some value, but she still don't know that), now you have (she knows you were able to kill mommy and survive in the factory), and she feel like she can use you to acomplish her agenda.
People like that don't gain anything by beeing hostile with people that might have some value.
I got the impression Poppy was manipulating the protagonist in order to escape. Once she realized what the protagonist was capable of, she changed her plans. I don’t know if I would consider her ‘evil’ though, but she could inevitably wind up our enemy.
Others have said in the comments, but I definitely think it’s more likely that the friendly personalities are the ones they were conditioned to have. After all, why would Playtime condition them to be more difficult and hard to control?
The angry personalities are their true feelings. All their anger, bitterness, and insanity bubbling out from under the fake smiles.
However, it’s very possible that this won’t be the case for every toy character. Some might be able to still hold onto their decency and sanity even after all their trauma. We can only hope.
That wouldn't make sense either
What do you mean?
Soo I was just watching a vid about the prototype and poppy is actually the daughter of the boss of playtime co and the reason why she was sealed in that case was to prevent the darkness from getting her just like it did with mommy long legs and Huggy Wuggy but what I don’t understand is that Kissy missy is the only nice toy and can you make a vid on the prototype and kissy missy and the darkness together? If you already did then please let me know! And also the darkness is the reason why they started killing, well I think so. The boss of playtime co has lost his family and poppy was his daughter so he did some experiments in a ded rat in playtime co and they made a gel with poppy’s ( The flower ) and some gel and a few weeks later the rat was alive again and they did the same with poppy ( the doll ) so please tell me if you understand this! Btw experiment 0p6 is Eliot ( I think that’s how you spell his name ) he is the boss of playtime co and he is the prototype
5:25, take a look at those pictures. It may bay the lighting, but do you see her hair? a patch of her hair hanging down onto her face is a whitish grey. To reinforce this theory that they could be two different dolls is that her face in the first picture has a definite shine. her body seems to be duller in the second. and, her dress is brighter. it seems to be bluer, while the first picture shows that it is a faded mix of light blue and pastel purple. It looks as if it is a lighter lilac, which is very different from the coloring that we see in the second picture. Also, I believe that this part is no mistake, but her eyes seem very different as well. In the First picture, her eyes look VERY human, but in the second, they look like a doll's eyes. they seem, glossy. A human's eyes look glossy as well, but look at the veins in her eyes in the first picture. See a difference?