I've found that when a tom is held up, yes be quiet but also to aggravate him with a half ass gobble to sound like a jake to piss him off then he comes looking for the jake to fight him.🤗
went silent after firing up a Tom from 250 yards away on Saturday, 40 minutes of complete silence I let out a real soft, muted yelp and he gobbled not 25 yards in front of me behind some brush. 5 minutes had my vary first Turkey
My buddy (Jon) and I had a similar experience when we shot our first turkeys in the Spring of 2018. We watched a lot of videos and did our research before hitting the woods and we still ALMOST messed it up. Called in some toms and hens from over a kilometer down close to 60yds. The forest was so loud will gobbles and yelps, it felt like they were right on top of us, but we couldn't see them. We kept yelping and clucking every time he'd gobble to try and close the distance, but then they started to leave. We decided to get up and put eyes on these birds, but every time we clucked just to get an idea on their location, they always seemed be like 40 yds from us. We were basically chasing these birds. We were discouraged and crawled back to our blinds like whipped dogs. As soon as we got back, those toms started gobbling. Man were they ever fired up, because they were closing the distance fast. Jon kept suggesting to respond with a call to let them know where we were. I said "Let's just shut up... he's bee lining for us." Sure enough, Jon spots two great big toms coming in to the field about 40yds out (i still can't see them). They both spot one of our decoys and starting running like little Veloci Raptors. They ran right pass Jon within 5 yds, stopped and circled our decoy at 10yds. I lost the coin toss, so Jon didn't hesitate to blast the beak off his first turkey. The second flew off, but then button hooked into our hen decoy (30yds). I lined him up, hoping he would come back to investigate his friend. Jon shouted a whisper at me "SHOOT HIM or LOSE HIM." I put the bead on the base his neck and folder that bird like a seven deuce draw. We popped out of our blind like as if Michael Jordan just hit the Championship title buzzer beater. Jon have been hunting big game animals, from Moose, Black Bear and White Tail, and we never been so happy in all the hunts we ever did. Love your videos!! Keep up the good work!!
Last year I implemented this tactic and it paid off. Heard yelping (yes, not gobbling) about a hundred yards off and replied a few times, back and forth, not sure if it was a tom or hen tbh. Then I put the call down and not five minutes later 6 or 7 toms come strolling my way, curious as to where the hen had gone. Ended up smacking one of them at 25 yds! Crazy hunt, but sometimes you get lucky lol
Some of the most common sense teaching I have seen and heard. Stay in the turkey woods enough and you will learn just what he is talking about. Congrats
He is exactly right , I learned this a few years ago. Too many people think when he gobbles that he is looking and so they answer back. He is calling you and he isn't going anywhere. Takes a lot of patience to just sit and let him gobble without calling to him ; but I can assure you it works more times than when it doesn't.
I literally followed this example and it worked. Called only four times and the bird came from 200 yards away. Jumped the creek and started strutting right in front of me at 40 yards. Thanks again Jason.
Silence works better than the best call out there .. JC you are a turkey killin king .. listen and live by everything this man says about turkey hunting and I guarantee you will become a better turkey hunter
I'm now sure this is exactly why I failed on my first hunt. 2 minutes into the woods and I was hearing multiple gobblers. I called back every dang time. Never saw a bird. Thanks for this video!
This is a lesson I learned through years of experience in messing up on gobblers. I think about it any time I watch a video of people calling to the birds non-stop. When the bird has already committed to coming in, just stay quiet and wait. He'll come all the way in eventually.
Great advice ! I need to practice the silent treatment much more, I have a habit of wanting to call too much ,it’s like an addiction lol ..and all it does it make them gobblers hang up.
It happened to me 2 seasons ago. That bird didn’t say a word earlier that morning, but I stay patient till noon. Around 10:00, he started gobbling within 40-50 yard deep in the woods which I couldn’t see. I called him, he replied aggressively. 10-15 min I called and he answered, going back and forth but not showing himself. I quit calling for 10 minutes thinking what to do !, all the sudden I saw a fan 8 yards from me. Then he started walking toward the decoy silently so I took a shot then.
Turkey season over?? Goodness, Pennsylvania just opened this past Saturday. I guess we do have one of the later opening days throughout the country but I didn’t realize most seasons were closing already.
This ole trick works like a charm. I killed my second bird this morning with it. That tom gobbled at me when I let out some yelps, and I shut up. 10 minutes of him gobbling and me not saying a thing, he flew across the creek to me, and walked right towards me. Game over for him.
I watched this video on Friday and my son killed a bird Saturday because I used this method. I was remembering this video the whole time and it was hard not call, but he came in running to our tom decoy and beat it up. Then my son popped it with a 410 and TSS loads. So proud. And thanks guys for the sage advice.
Put the smack down on an old LBL bird this past Tuesday morning! This bird worked my tail off for several days, I got out to LBL late and made an educated guess as to where to go in due to the sun up in full beam. 30 minutes later, he was at about 200 yards, hammering, I set up decoys in an area I knew he comes through on occasion. Made my set up in a creek bed and built a little blind for my exposed left side, and gave him a soft yelp and purr. ( soft enough that I wondered if he would actually hear it) He cut me off in the purr, and I went quiet. After 15 to 20 minutes later, I gave him another soft yelp, he answered at about 80 yards with a rise in between us, another few minutes (I don’t really know how long it was cause I was getting pretty pumped up) he emerged at 60 yards along the edge of the same creek bed I was in and then took 40 minutes to cover the last 60 yards giving me a full strut show! He came in and curled in between me and the decoys, made a quick move and flogged my little struter decoy and then came again in front of the decoys when he got rolled in a position between the decoys at 14 steps away! I had re-watched this very video the night before and had to remind myself during that 40 minutes of strut show to just stay quiet!! Two years ago, I would have probably run him off calling....To say I am wound UP is putting it lightly!! Thanks Jason for this content that put it fresh in my mind and let me close the deal on a Land Between the Lakes KY Hoss of a Gobbler!
That's a great tip...It's been a problem in the past for me. over calling a bird when I know he would come with out all that calling. I just loved to hear the gobble is the problem...
Jason, what you have said here is exactly how I managed to kill the only two turkeys I heard during this years season. I made a total of three yelps, the gobbler answering each one, over a period of one hour. He finally strutted into my decoy, six hens in tow. It is even the tactic I took in helping a 12 year old kid kill his first turkey. In his case, I yelped on three different occasions, only the first of which was answered by a gobbler. I just stayed quiet and in one hour and fifty minutes he walked out of the woods into our small field and from a pop up blind my youngster poll axed him with one shot. I love the wisdom of your comments.
Makes more sense than any tip of head so far! I made ☝️ cluck last year before session on a Tom to locate him. Never called again. 30 minutes passed. Next thing I knew he was drumming 15 yards behind me . Never thought he’d Sneak up behind me.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what I need to do to get involved with the turkey calling competitions? I looked on the NWTF website and the only event they show is The World Turkey Calling Championship in Mobile, AL. Are there qualifying events that are held locally?
Not using decoys is also very effective. I see too many people using decoys and relying too much on them. Its is especially effective inside the woods.
Mastering Silence and Movement - one false move and all the pricey prep, cammo and calls matter not! That's why I think blinds are a better way to go - if you can't sit still. . After hours of silence and nothing happening, it's hard not to impulsively scratch your brow or clear your throat. Countless hours of not hunting have conditioned us thus.
Did you ever notice when real turkeys carry on after fly down they all shut up after several minutes? If they're calling a lot you can call a lot and get away with it. When they shut up, you shut up. It's the natural thing to do. Put your calls away, that's the best solution to over calling.
I'm new to turkey hunting this year will be my first. Should I start calling every half hour until I hear a turkey? If I hear one I know to shut up but what if you dont hear anything? How often should I call until I hear a turkey? Thanks for the advice anyone good luck this year!
Aaron the best thing you can do is scout for sign and of course listen for gobbles ; but gobblers don't always gobble. Slip around the woods and soft call about every hundred or so yards, listen and look. If you don't hear or see any birds go set up in an area that has good sign such as dust bowls and so forth. my favorite is strut marks, letting me know there is a gobbler in the area. how often to call, well that just takes time in the woods cause every bird is different. this is my approach anyway and works for me. hope you get one man. Opening day for me in Ga is tomorrow..
@@robertmoxley391 good luck man opening day for me is April 22 I got awhile to wait it sucks. The only problem is where I'm hunting is at the edge of a corn feild. I can't really do alot of run and gun bceause the rest of the property isn't ours. Thanks for the advice though I'll use it when I can do the run and gun thing.
Took me a good number of years to realize that you don't have to be great at calling , to call in turkeys....you just need to be good at shutting up. Last year was the first year that I really honestly tried this and its a HUGE game changer....if a bird answers you, he knows RIGHT where you are.
I've said so many times this very thing! Sometimes all we have to be more patient than him. The problem is, 90% of the turkey hunting videos are constantly call for the gobbling and the viewers do the same thing. Huge mistake!
Every spring I hear and see hens that call almost continuously while staying in the same location for as long as an hour. Yes, timed with a watch not guessing. It happens. Last spring when a hen was doing that about 50 yards from me she triggered toms to gobble more than 150 times. Yes, I actually kept track and quit counting at 150. She then picked around in my decoys for 30 minutes. One method does not work everyday everywhere. Learn to read the birds.
darrell taggart hey, you listen to this guy and you will get turkeys. I tried some of his techniques and bagged two so far this season, and I know I'll get my fall turkey this year too. He knows his stuff. I'm hunting in WV so not to far from you. Going silent really works on some of those hung up gobblers. When they are really stuck throw your call sound away from you and call a little softer. Sometimes that's all it takes to get his attention and think that old hens leaving him. Killed my biggest one ever using that trick.
Thank you,thank you for sharing that .Im an avid Turkey hunter and hunt tough swamp Turkey's here in S.C.these birds you have to let him know you're there and shut up,scratch in the leaves,flap a wing or what ever but do not make another sound because they will literally shut up.It took me a few years to figure them out.like hunting dang ghost! Thanks
I'm sorry but I cant watch anymore mossberg videos in regards to Turkey hunting after I watched one of your staff say a cluck and purr will ruin every turkey hunt....
Good advice. Thank you.
Every single spring I rewatch the master series to brush up for the season. Thank you
Great Advice!!! I'm still trying to master it.... for 20 years now Lol!!!
Thanks David! Go get 'em this Spring.
I've found that when a tom is held up, yes be quiet but also to aggravate him with a half ass gobble to sound like a jake to piss him off then he comes looking for the jake to fight him.🤗
went silent after firing up a Tom from 250 yards away on Saturday, 40 minutes of complete silence I let out a real soft, muted yelp and he gobbled not 25 yards in front of me behind some brush. 5 minutes had my vary first Turkey
Last Saturday, I did a very soft yelp and he answered way off. He never responded again.
Lando H I hunt in the mountains of SC.
Sweet
I'm going on my first Turkey hunt Saturday.
Lando H awesome story man
Many won't appreciate how serious you are when you say this is the #1 tip you can give. It truly is.
You have the best turkey hunting video series out there imo Jason, thank you !
My buddy (Jon) and I had a similar experience when we shot our first turkeys in the Spring of 2018. We watched a lot of videos and did our research before hitting the woods and we still ALMOST messed it up. Called in some toms and hens from over a kilometer down close to 60yds. The forest was so loud will gobbles and yelps, it felt like they were right on top of us, but we couldn't see them. We kept yelping and clucking every time he'd gobble to try and close the distance, but then they started to leave. We decided to get up and put eyes on these birds, but every time we clucked just to get an idea on their location, they always seemed be like 40 yds from us. We were basically chasing these birds. We were discouraged and crawled back to our blinds like whipped dogs. As soon as we got back, those toms started gobbling. Man were they ever fired up, because they were closing the distance fast. Jon kept suggesting to respond with a call to let them know where we were. I said "Let's just shut up... he's bee lining for us." Sure enough, Jon spots two great big toms coming in to the field about 40yds out (i still can't see them). They both spot one of our decoys and starting running like little Veloci Raptors. They ran right pass Jon within 5 yds, stopped and circled our decoy at 10yds. I lost the coin toss, so Jon didn't hesitate to blast the beak off his first turkey. The second flew off, but then button hooked into our hen decoy (30yds). I lined him up, hoping he would come back to investigate his friend. Jon shouted a whisper at me "SHOOT HIM or LOSE HIM." I put the bead on the base his neck and folder that bird like a seven deuce draw. We popped out of our blind like as if Michael Jordan just hit the Championship title buzzer beater. Jon have been hunting big game animals, from Moose, Black Bear and White Tail, and we never been so happy in all the hunts we ever did. Love your videos!! Keep up the good work!!
Here comes two more gobblers in the background. You are exactly right. Silence is a hard thing to do. Great video
I also learned from you to hush and be still ! Its poison when you do !
Last year I implemented this tactic and it paid off. Heard yelping (yes, not gobbling) about a hundred yards off and replied a few times, back and forth, not sure if it was a tom or hen tbh. Then I put the call down and not five minutes later 6 or 7 toms come strolling my way, curious as to where the hen had gone. Ended up smacking one of them at 25 yds! Crazy hunt, but sometimes you get lucky lol
Some of the most common sense teaching I have seen and heard. Stay in the turkey woods enough and you will learn just what he is talking about. Congrats
Have not seen you in any new vids, but what your saying, still rings true! Hope to see you again! Thanks for your knowledge.
You helped me for sure with the knowledge of silence thank you! And glory be to god for creating these beautifulbirds!!
Still_ Seth most beautiful animal created.
I have preached this to my buddies for years. Silence is deadly!
Joe Crawford bobcats kill more birds then we do and they are stealthy quiet!
I’m definitely gonna try this out this weekend. I know I call to much. Love hearing the gobble like you said
Andy Jackson we can over call but we can’t over scratch and be silent
He is exactly right , I learned this a few years ago. Too many people think when he gobbles that he is looking and so they answer back. He is calling you and he isn't going anywhere. Takes a lot of patience to just sit and let him gobble without calling to him ; but I can assure you it works more times than when it doesn't.
This is one of my biggest issues. I really need to learn more patience in the field.
I literally followed this example and it worked. Called only four times and the bird came from 200 yards away. Jumped the creek and started strutting right in front of me at 40 yards. Thanks again Jason.
Silence works better than the best call out there .. JC you are a turkey killin king .. listen and live by everything this man says about turkey hunting and I guarantee you will become a better turkey hunter
AmericanAnimalSolutions 36 you ain’t lying
Need to do this, this coming up spring gobbler season. Watched this vid like 5 times. Great stuff
I'm now sure this is exactly why I failed on my first hunt. 2 minutes into the woods and I was hearing multiple gobblers. I called back every dang time. Never saw a bird. Thanks for this video!
Excactly what happened to me yesterday while I was spotting season starts tomorrow and I've took some notes down
Excellent Jason! Very true good point. Sometimes its tough to stop and not call.
JC u r Awesome ... This is why I subscribe to this channel. Keep it up .!!!!!
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This is a lesson I learned through years of experience in messing up on gobblers. I think about it any time I watch a video of people calling to the birds non-stop. When the bird has already committed to coming in, just stay quiet and wait. He'll come all the way in eventually.
Fantastic video ! Great lesson !
Excellent! Your a great Hunter and Teacher! The art of being a Woodsman is to know your preys habits and tendencies, you got em figured out sir.
Excellent video thank you
Great episode. I couldn't agree more, had some great hunts this year that played out a lot like this one thanks to your videos!
I've watch a lot of turkey videos this is by far the series I have watched all season
Work the bird. Words to hunt by. Thanks for the video. I will definitely take it to heart on this year's hunt.
I always shut up and make them come looking for me.
Great advice ! I need to practice the silent treatment much more, I have a habit of wanting to call too much ,it’s like an addiction lol ..and all it does it make them gobblers hang up.
So true. I hunt in hilly areas with lots of trees. It’s hard to stay silent when you can’t see birds but man it’s so important!
Awesome video learned that from a mentor years ago. Keep up the good work
So true today was a rough day though took a buddy out from roost to 12 not a single bird heard or seen
It happened to me 2 seasons ago. That bird didn’t say a word earlier that morning, but I stay patient till noon. Around 10:00, he started gobbling within 40-50 yard deep in the woods which I couldn’t see. I called him, he replied aggressively. 10-15 min I called and he answered, going back and forth but not showing himself. I quit calling for 10 minutes thinking what to do !, all the sudden I saw a fan 8 yards from me. Then he started walking toward the decoy silently so I took a shot then.
Absolutely right! Except this morning when I went silent a little too long and a hen pulled him off in the wrong direction.
Yea, that's great advice that I wish I had used this past weekend in Ga.
Great advice brother GOD BLESS.
Turkey season over?? Goodness, Pennsylvania just opened this past Saturday. I guess we do have one of the later opening days throughout the country but I didn’t realize most seasons were closing already.
Wisconsin is in week 3 of 6
I have failed so many times because I didn’t see this video learned so much
Great advice!!! How could anyone thumbs down this. Proof is in the puddin🦃🦃👍
I've killed several by being silent and just scratching leaves.
hess man every turkeys gotta walk and scratch up food but not all Yelp. Can’t ever over scratch.
Do this all the time after learning the hard way this is good advice
How do you pull a tom away from a hot hen with out decoys
JC Larson call the hen.
Great info hard to do!
Dude.. You're giving away all my secretes! Lol.
This ole trick works like a charm. I killed my second bird this morning with it. That tom gobbled at me when I let out some yelps, and I shut up. 10 minutes of him gobbling and me not saying a thing, he flew across the creek to me, and walked right towards me. Game over for him.
Killed more just sitting there doing nothing than I can remember. Good advice.
Never knew that. Maybe I'll get a Tom Or 2 this year thx.
I watched this video on Friday and my son killed a bird Saturday because I used this method. I was remembering this video the whole time and it was hard not call, but he came in running to our tom decoy and beat it up. Then my son popped it with a 410 and TSS loads. So proud. And thanks guys for the sage advice.
Put the smack down on an old LBL bird this past Tuesday morning! This bird worked my tail off for several days, I got out to LBL late and made an educated guess as to where to go in due to the sun up in full beam. 30 minutes later, he was at about 200 yards, hammering, I set up decoys in an area I knew he comes through on occasion. Made my set up in a creek bed and built a little blind for my exposed left side, and gave him a soft yelp and purr. ( soft enough that I wondered if he would actually hear it) He cut me off in the purr, and I went quiet. After 15 to 20 minutes later, I gave him another soft yelp, he answered at about 80 yards with a rise in between us, another few minutes (I don’t really know how long it was cause I was getting pretty pumped up) he emerged at 60 yards along the edge of the same creek bed I was in and then took 40 minutes to cover the last 60 yards giving me a full strut show! He came in and curled in between me and the decoys, made a quick move and flogged my little struter decoy and then came again in front of the decoys when he got rolled in a position between the decoys at 14 steps away! I had re-watched this very video the night before and had to remind myself during that 40 minutes of strut show to just stay quiet!! Two years ago, I would have probably run him off calling....To say I am wound UP is putting it lightly!!
Thanks Jason for this content that put it fresh in my mind and let me close the deal on a Land Between the Lakes KY Hoss of a Gobbler!
It works. Helped me take the oldest bird that I have taken. Most likely 4yr old with 1 1/2 in spurs. He wouldn't budge until I went silent on him.
That's a great tip...It's been a problem in the past for me. over calling a bird when I know he would come with out all that calling. I just loved to hear the gobble is the problem...
Jason, what you have said here is exactly how I managed to kill the only two turkeys I heard during this years season. I made a total of three yelps, the gobbler answering each one, over a period of one hour. He finally strutted into my decoy, six hens in tow. It is even the tactic I took in helping a 12 year old kid kill his first turkey. In his case, I yelped on three different occasions, only the first of which was answered by a gobbler. I just stayed quiet and in one hour and fifty minutes he walked out of the woods into our small field and from a pop up blind my youngster poll axed him with one shot. I love the wisdom of your comments.
Hey brother right now time to go after them here in TN. Juvenile season this comin Saturday and regular season opens the next Saturday.
Yes, silence is gold, even for hunting.
Ontario Canada turkey season in full swing I'm trying to call less this year silence is the key
Makes more sense than any tip of head so far! I made ☝️ cluck last year before session on a Tom to locate him. Never called again. 30 minutes passed. Next thing I knew he was drumming 15 yards behind me . Never thought he’d Sneak up behind me.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what I need to do to get involved with the turkey calling competitions? I looked on the NWTF website and the only event they show is The World Turkey Calling Championship in Mobile, AL. Are there qualifying events that are held locally?
Not using decoys is also very effective. I see too many people using decoys and relying too much on them. Its is especially effective inside the woods.
sweet that's the way I do it when he gobbles he knows were u are...
Duck hunters need to learn this too...
Mastering Silence and Movement - one false move and all the pricey prep, cammo and calls matter not! That's why I think blinds are a better way to go - if you can't sit still. . After hours of silence and nothing happening, it's hard not to impulsively scratch your brow or clear your throat. Countless hours of not hunting have conditioned us thus.
Did you ever notice when real turkeys carry on after fly down they all shut up after several minutes? If they're calling a lot you can call a lot and get away with it. When they shut up, you shut up. It's the natural thing to do. Put your calls away, that's the best solution to over calling.
The hardest thing is not calling
I'm new to turkey hunting this year will be my first.
Should I start calling every half hour until I hear a turkey?
If I hear one I know to shut up but what if you dont hear anything?
How often should I call until I hear a turkey?
Thanks for the advice anyone good luck this year!
Aaron the best thing you can do is scout for sign and of course listen for gobbles ; but gobblers don't always gobble. Slip around the woods and soft call about every hundred or so yards, listen and look. If you don't hear or see any birds go set up in an area that has good sign such as dust bowls and so forth. my favorite is strut marks, letting me know there is a gobbler in the area. how often to call, well that just takes time in the woods cause every bird is different. this is my approach anyway and works for me. hope you get one man. Opening day for me in Ga is tomorrow..
@@robertmoxley391 good luck man opening day for me is April 22 I got awhile to wait it sucks.
The only problem is where I'm hunting is at the edge of a corn feild.
I can't really do alot of run and gun bceause the rest of the property isn't ours.
Thanks for the advice though I'll use it when I can do the run and gun thing.
Took me a good number of years to realize that you don't have to be great at calling , to call in turkeys....you just need to be good at shutting up. Last year was the first year that I really honestly tried this and its a HUGE game changer....if a bird answers you, he knows RIGHT where you are.
Good video, just like duck hunting I am learning to be a bit more patient and selective in calling, it pays off to be conservative sometimes.
Less is more
I've said so many times this very thing! Sometimes all we have to be more patient than him. The problem is, 90% of the turkey hunting videos are constantly call for the gobbling and the viewers do the same thing. Huge mistake!
Ya'll making this Filipino want to move out there from commie wa state! 🤷♂️ thanks alot Jason my brother 👏😂
less calling, it wotks!
ProGreen LAWN yes it does!
Every spring I hear and see hens that call almost continuously while staying in the same location for as long as an hour. Yes, timed with a watch not guessing. It happens. Last spring when a hen was doing that about 50 yards from me she triggered toms to gobble more than 150 times. Yes, I actually kept track and quit counting at 150. She then picked around in my decoys for 30 minutes.
One method does not work everyday everywhere. Learn to read the birds.
Truth!!
so why did you not shoot the second bird?
Turkeys are so funny to watch
Really great tactic .
Lose the decoys
Play the game
So I'm a 3 yr vet only 1 bird under my belt how well does this work over her in ohio an yes thanks for great vid
darrell taggart hey, you listen to this guy and you will get turkeys. I tried some of his techniques and bagged two so far this season, and I know I'll get my fall turkey this year too. He knows his stuff. I'm hunting in WV so not to far from you. Going silent really works on some of those hung up gobblers. When they are really stuck throw your call sound away from you and call a little softer. Sometimes that's all it takes to get his attention and think that old hens leaving him. Killed my biggest one ever using that trick.
Kirby road I get to go back out sat I'm sure gonna try thanks
darrell taggart good luck hope you get a big one.
Kirby road thank you
Kirby road goin silent in the am brand new spot wish me luck hope for double
Thank you,thank you for sharing that .Im an avid Turkey hunter and hunt tough swamp Turkey's here in S.C.these birds you have to let him know you're there and shut up,scratch in the leaves,flap a wing or what ever but do not make another sound because they will literally shut up.It took me a few years to figure them out.like hunting dang ghost! Thanks
I'm sorry but I cant watch anymore mossberg videos in regards to Turkey hunting after I watched one of your staff say a cluck and purr will ruin every turkey hunt....
Used this tactic again this morning. Guided my son to his first bird-25 lbs.
Adam Burge that’s awesome keep it up!
i've haven't hunted yet, but does anyone else think there's no such thing as an "epic turkey hunt"?
I can’t wait!
James brown you shouldnt hunt or comment