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This is litterally so perfectly timed, I just started driving F4 in iRacing and I really hate being down on the leaders just because of the setup, i'm always in between the fast and slow drivers. The default setups are alright but it depends a lot on the track and I just want to learn how to adjust the setup to my liking
I'm also driving F4 but I only got into sim racing in September and know I'm still in the learning the handling techniques phase lol hopefully given another few months I'm consistent enough and feel the handling predictable enough to come back to this.
Suellio, your book is amazing. I started Iracing about a week ago. Your book is of tremendous help. It's a very powerful tool. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience. I have the right weapon to aknowledge, deconstruct and fight my bad habits now :). It's already paying off.
Thanks for the tips Suellio. Setups are a thing I’m never fully satisfied with. Using the fastest setups adds a degree of certainty that any lost time can be found by the driver. Of course it’s a double edged sword because these setups are often sensitive and more difficult to drive. Always my favorite place to start and then I’ll make personal changes from there if I absolutely need to.
thank you thank you thank you. haooy i purchased the course. i have watched this 3 times and have taken mad notes. im tired of relying on others setups without knowing what and why they made changes. i want to learn so that i can do it myself and understand. this was very digestible
The commentary, the smoothness, and the graphic are the best I have ever seen. These are so much fun to watch! Thank you for all the effort put into these! As people say, 2nd time is the charm lol, Jimmie Johnson (48) and Carl Edwards (99)
I've had this video in one of my browser tabs for months after watching it through once and was overwhelmed by all the details. I wanted to have the time to take notes and really understand each concept behind each change. I finally took the time today and this is amazing! I've been playing with small changes in setup (like ARB changes or spring rate) over the past couple of months and it did help sometimes and other times I just made things worse and didn't know why. Now I understand why my changes made the car and I feel a little silly for not watching this through sooner lol. I have always loved how detailed and transparent your videos are so thanks for the hard work! When is that Part 2 we were promised coming out though?!?
This is all awesome information, and I think for beginners staying on the fixed series (even when running the open series) is the best way to go. Until you are in the top split and running with the tippy top drivers that's when it starts to matter. You'd be surprised how much dialing in your brake bias on a fixed car will help you lap times too.
I have to say thank you. You give so much great information free I think your pay course would be like taking a college course. I'll have to find out for myself the next week 13.
Hey Suellio, i literally stopped right in the middle of the video to write this. Love your journey as a driver and simracer. But see, maybe and most problably your main gift is to Teach/Help people. Just a opinion from a person at the other half of the Globe...Congrats!
Me too, his vid from around 3 weeks ago about coaching a beginner with a logitech g29 was excellent for learning how to induce under steer / over steer and get the correct rotation at all the phases through the corner. I've been working on that with the F4 cars, I'm only a few months in and i think best to leave the set up fixed until i feel the handling consistent and totally predictable.
this is very true, i have recently purchased iracing ( almost a week ago ) and have played in some practice lobbies with the mx5 with fixed setups. while some people get higher or lower times theres always room to improve on where to start breaking, throttle control etc. i don't remember the name of the map but i had started with a minute and some seconds to 0.57.200 something after almost 100 laps . good video!!
Bro lime rock park gotta be famous for the fact quick setups have asymmetrical spring rates and generally just asymmetric setups due to all of the right turns 😂
Suellio, I believe you've made a mistake on the part of rake affecting longitudinal (front/rear) weight distribution and if you go back and look at part in your video where you change the rake and look at what the combined left and right tyre weights were changed to reported by iracing, you will see the weight distribution for each axle remained exactly the same before and after the rake changes. I've seen/heard this mistake by many other people (including drivers such as Driver 61 too) numerous times and I too once thought it would affect front/rear weight distribution. But if you think about it, changing the height of the suspension shouldn't actually make any difference to front/rear weight distribution because how the static load/mass of a car is distributed between front and rear tyres is wholly dependent only on the ratio of the distances of the front and rear tyre contact patch points to the center of mass of the car, perpendicular to the axis/direction of gravity. How then is it affecting under/oversteer behaviors of the car because it most certainly does affect this. Well, it affects this by changing the height of the roll center of an axle relative to the center of gravity height. This then has the affect of determining how much the lateral force from cornering, goes into rolling an axle or not by affecting how much of the lateral force goes through the suspension axis or control arms. The higher the roll center, the greater the percentage of the lateral force will going through the suspension rather than the control arm, and therefore the more it will cause that axle to roll leading to more lateral weight transfer for that axle. This is why Max Verstappen runs with high rake. He gets additional oversteer during cornering via reduction in rear grip relative to front grip by increasing the height of the rear roll center vs front end roll center, which in turn, during cornering causes more lateral weight transfer on the rear end than for his front end, leading to a decrease in rear grip relative to front grip.
Great guide. As for las part I would add that in iracing you have like a meta setup for a week and it is mostly about downforce. If meta is let's say for wing at 3 but you struggle with it, you can not add downforce because you will be a sitting duck on straights. You have to try to counter this with mechanical grip a bit and just cope with it.
Awesome video as alwyas. I hope i can use it to setup for Dallara 317 formula car because i just start a mini champ with that car and i need a lot of tips :)
Holup! Shouldn't you run softer springs on a bumpy track to absorb the bumps, and prevent bottoming out with ride height and packers? Overall a good video for beginners, looking forward to part 2.
Wait, I thought you needed softer springs on bumpier tracks so the wheels keep ground contact more easily? With stiff springs, won't you just be bouncing around? Or what you actually need is soft enough to keep ground contact, but stiff enough to stop bottoming out?
Just to add to what you said about people/friends coming around to see truth. That can happen, however, we need to be ok, if they never return. This, if important, should be considered before. Some things can't be taken back. Just be sure and hold the line when decision is made. Just saying🧡🙏🏼
I need to learn how to neutral steer and learn brake bais I get to scared before corners and overslow I also use way to much time thinking about front tires and cane never set a similar lap time
Great vid! Very helpful. And... I have a question about gearing. There are some cars with point of ideal shift located not at the end of the rev range, usually those are turbo cars. How should i adjust my gearing for cars like these? e. g. Ferrari 488 GT3 or modern Formula 1... Also, how gears affect cornering abilities of a car and is it a good idea to adjust gear ratios for specific corners?
yeah sure i have a qestion , how can you deal with gearing 1st 2nd 3rd and so on,, well this question is in advance of part 2 , im asuming, thank you bo'
What about variable spring rates and damper rates so that you prevent bottoming out or porpoising but also allow the bumps to be absorbed more gently without the force feedback breaking your hands? Also what if you ran slow front rebound damper rate very high to keep the fronts pressed down, will that work?
Here’s a question Suellio, When building a setup how do you approach creating a faster baseline for a downforce car like the radical or LMP? I can tune an existing setup pretty reliably, but when given an iRacing Baseline for example, how do you approach building a faster platform overall? Like my assumption is to choose your expected downforce level, then chase max lateral G at low medium and high speeds, then tune the balance from there? I’m building a setup for Sebring and need some help prioritizing the steps to take to do it well lol. Thanks for the videos!
on stiffer ARB, i feel that, if the car wants to understeer, it underrsterr faster BUT... u cant catch it faster...same with oversteer...if it oversteer, it does faster, but more "catchble"....i generally prefere a stiffer car, even on GTs..even knowing that tyres becomes hotter...becouse i know what the car is doing before its to late..
The thing I hate about sim racing setup is that you are supposed to feel all the changes just from the steering wheel and vision. Its hard to tell if a sim car needs a stiffer rear or how much the settings make it so or how much increasing wing angle affects the car in speed and turn. The audio from the tires doesn't give enough info either. But..great video explanation.
I subbed because thus video thank you so much. I decided to give iRacing "a shot" at the beginning of April since I can do my normal hobbies because of my health and I (to my suprise) fell in love and became obsessed
First you have to know are you a driver who like a sharp front end or a sharp back end. Are you a driver who like understeer in a car of rater have a overstering car. Verstappen likes a car who got oversteer, Vettel liked a car with understeer. You have to find what suites you the best and with what setup are you faster.
But you must have a comman sences, just to to avoid wrong setup wihich can make u lose your interest in the game, or can develop bad habits.. One of such common sense would be "Setup is good when it allows you to achive the top speed not any less than 2kmph than the aliens players able to achive, say 270kmph for Ferrari gt3 on Spa"
I just wanna drive, I dont wanna spend 20 hours a weak making setups. F that. My $8000 rig sits because of this. And cheating and crazy META setups. F sim racing. I beta tested iRacing. Been around a long time. Sim Racing used to be different, now it's full of send it COD morons.
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This is litterally so perfectly timed, I just started driving F4 in iRacing and I really hate being down on the leaders just because of the setup, i'm always in between the fast and slow drivers. The default setups are alright but it depends a lot on the track and I just want to learn how to adjust the setup to my liking
I'm also driving F4 but I only got into sim racing in September and know I'm still in the learning the handling techniques phase lol hopefully given another few months I'm consistent enough and feel the handling predictable enough to come back to this.
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Ready for part 2!
Suellio, your book is amazing. I started Iracing about a week ago. Your book is of tremendous help. It's a very powerful tool. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience. I have the right weapon to aknowledge, deconstruct and fight my bad habits now :). It's already paying off.
I got the book too and it’s really great!!
Thanks for the tips Suellio. Setups are a thing I’m never fully satisfied with. Using the fastest setups adds a degree of certainty that any lost time can be found by the driver. Of course it’s a double edged sword because these setups are often sensitive and more difficult to drive. Always my favorite place to start and then I’ll make personal changes from there if I absolutely need to.
love this guy, your videos are extremely helpful and educational. lifelong subscriber
I never thought I’d find a video this in depth, you are a true savior
The best guide I've seen . Big thanks from france man, you help me so much to understand. You the best !
thank you thank you thank you. haooy i purchased the course. i have watched this 3 times and have taken mad notes. im tired of relying on others setups without knowing what and why they made changes. i want to learn so that i can do it myself and understand. this was very digestible
Im not a begginer and i didnt watch the video yet. came here just to say that your book is AMAZING!
The commentary, the smoothness, and the graphic are the best I have ever seen. These are so much fun to watch! Thank you for all the effort put into these!
As people say, 2nd time is the charm lol, Jimmie Johnson (48) and Carl Edwards (99)
Great guide man, Thx, Part II???
I've had this video in one of my browser tabs for months after watching it through once and was overwhelmed by all the details. I wanted to have the time to take notes and really understand each concept behind each change. I finally took the time today and this is amazing! I've been playing with small changes in setup (like ARB changes or spring rate) over the past couple of months and it did help sometimes and other times I just made things worse and didn't know why. Now I understand why my changes made the car and I feel a little silly for not watching this through sooner lol. I have always loved how detailed and transparent your videos are so thanks for the hard work!
When is that Part 2 we were promised coming out though?!?
This is all awesome information, and I think for beginners staying on the fixed series (even when running the open series) is the best way to go. Until you are in the top split and running with the tippy top drivers that's when it starts to matter. You'd be surprised how much dialing in your brake bias on a fixed car will help you lap times too.
I have to say thank you. You give so much great information free I think your pay course would be like taking a college course. I'll have to find out for myself the next week 13.
Hey Suellio, i literally stopped right in the middle of the video to write this. Love your journey as a driver and simracer. But see, maybe and most problably your main gift is to Teach/Help people. Just a opinion from a person at the other half of the Globe...Congrats!
Key here for me, focus on fixed setups and driving the car and rotating it. Thanks.
Me too, his vid from around 3 weeks ago about coaching a beginner with a logitech g29 was excellent for learning how to induce under steer / over steer and get the correct rotation at all the phases through the corner.
I've been working on that with the F4 cars, I'm only a few months in and i think best to leave the set up fixed until i feel the handling consistent and totally predictable.
Always so well explained, you are really good at this. Thank you and God bless you!!
Thanks man!
this is very true, i have recently purchased iracing ( almost a week ago ) and have played in some practice lobbies with the mx5 with fixed setups. while some people get higher or lower times theres always room to improve on where to start breaking, throttle control etc. i don't remember the name of the map but i had started with a minute and some seconds to 0.57.200 something after almost 100 laps . good video!!
Those lap times are most likely Lime Rock😉
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Best timing, I struggle with cars with either too much oversteer, and/or understeer
Perfect timing!
Bro lime rock park gotta be famous for the fact quick setups have asymmetrical spring rates and generally just asymmetric setups due to all of the right turns 😂
Great editing on this! I watched part of the recording stream, the edit makes it way better ❤
Very good info!
But please turn down the music volume. It was really distracting at times...
Hey Suellio. Great work 👏
The best honey-dumpers interpretation! It is definitely LIKE)
Thank you for this I can't wait for part 2
great video. can't wait for part 2
Suellio, I believe you've made a mistake on the part of rake affecting longitudinal (front/rear) weight distribution and if you go back and look at part in your video where you change the rake and look at what the combined left and right tyre weights were changed to reported by iracing, you will see the weight distribution for each axle remained exactly the same before and after the rake changes. I've seen/heard this mistake by many other people (including drivers such as Driver 61 too) numerous times and I too once thought it would affect front/rear weight distribution. But if you think about it, changing the height of the suspension shouldn't actually make any difference to front/rear weight distribution because how the static load/mass of a car is distributed between front and rear tyres is wholly dependent only on the ratio of the distances of the front and rear tyre contact patch points to the center of mass of the car, perpendicular to the axis/direction of gravity.
How then is it affecting under/oversteer behaviors of the car because it most certainly does affect this. Well, it affects this by changing the height of the roll center of an axle relative to the center of gravity height. This then has the affect of determining how much the lateral force from cornering, goes into rolling an axle or not by affecting how much of the lateral force goes through the suspension axis or control arms. The higher the roll center, the greater the percentage of the lateral force will going through the suspension rather than the control arm, and therefore the more it will cause that axle to roll leading to more lateral weight transfer for that axle.
This is why Max Verstappen runs with high rake. He gets additional oversteer during cornering via reduction in rear grip relative to front grip by increasing the height of the rear roll center vs front end roll center, which in turn, during cornering causes more lateral weight transfer on the rear end than for his front end, leading to a decrease in rear grip relative to front grip.
Great guide. As for las part I would add that in iracing you have like a meta setup for a week and it is mostly about downforce. If meta is let's say for wing at 3 but you struggle with it, you can not add downforce because you will be a sitting duck on straights. You have to try to counter this with mechanical grip a bit and just cope with it.
Finally time to learn how to do setups 😀
Very well explained.
Absolutely fantastic, Brilliant
So good, so good, so good! Part 2 when?!
Looking forward to part 2
Great video Suellio! If you could touch a bit on differential settings that would be juiced 🙏
This guy's a legend
Great video. The actual content starts at 09:50.
Would be cool to watch you setting up a car in iracing. Watching the process and steps
brilliant explanation!
Huge lesson🙏
🤔 so basicially if I want more oversteer like I was tough.. LONGTIME AGO.. I need follow the PROCESS! copyyyy thanks sue
Great video!
Please tell us how to use dampers telemetry histograms to understand whether the settings are well chosen.
when will part 2 be?
Did the part 2 ever drop?
Awesome video as alwyas. I hope i can use it to setup for Dallara 317 formula car because i just start a mini champ with that car and i need a lot of tips :)
fantastic!
Holup! Shouldn't you run softer springs on a bumpy track to absorb the bumps, and prevent bottoming out with ride height and packers?
Overall a good video for beginners, looking forward to part 2.
Thats a shock adjustment in real life that would be highspeed compression and rebound
Oh I see, thank you. Now I know I have been doing it wrong for 10+ years :D
Wait, I thought you needed softer springs on bumpier tracks so the wheels keep ground contact more easily? With stiff springs, won't you just be bouncing around? Or what you actually need is soft enough to keep ground contact, but stiff enough to stop bottoming out?
Congrats on getting into PESC
Just to add to what you said about people/friends coming around to see truth. That can happen, however, we need to be ok, if they never return. This, if important, should be considered before. Some things can't be taken back. Just be sure and hold the line when decision is made. Just saying🧡🙏🏼
I need to learn how to neutral steer and learn brake bais I get to scared before corners and overslow I also use way to much time thinking about front tires and cane never set a similar lap time
Great vid! Very helpful. And...
I have a question about gearing.
There are some cars with point of ideal shift located not at the end of the rev range, usually those are turbo cars. How should i adjust my gearing for cars like these? e. g. Ferrari 488 GT3 or modern Formula 1...
Also, how gears affect cornering abilities of a car and is it a good idea to adjust gear ratios for specific corners?
Differentials please? And also when would I change it in the video order of how you said ARB > Suspension > Dampers?
Whow , Thx for the Video
yeah sure i have a qestion , how can you deal with gearing 1st 2nd 3rd and so on,, well this question is in advance of part 2 , im asuming, thank you bo'
What about variable spring rates and damper rates so that you prevent bottoming out or porpoising but also allow the bumps to be absorbed more gently without the force feedback breaking your hands? Also what if you ran slow front rebound damper rate very high to keep the fronts pressed down, will that work?
Here’s a question Suellio, When building a setup how do you approach creating a faster baseline for a downforce car like the radical or LMP? I can tune an existing setup pretty reliably, but when given an iRacing Baseline for example, how do you approach building a faster platform overall? Like my assumption is to choose your expected downforce level, then chase max lateral G at low medium and high speeds, then tune the balance from there? I’m building a setup for Sebring and need some help prioritizing the steps to take to do it well lol. Thanks for the videos!
perfect video
Ótimo video mlk
on stiffer ARB, i feel that, if the car wants to understeer, it underrsterr faster BUT... u cant catch it faster...same with oversteer...if it oversteer, it does faster, but more "catchble"....i generally prefere a stiffer car, even on GTs..even knowing that tyres becomes hotter...becouse i know what the car is doing before its to late..
How do l get that brake checker the one that is below the rear view mirror. I want to get that on my setup. Thank you. 31st January 2024
The thing I hate about sim racing setup is that you are supposed to feel all the changes just from the steering wheel and vision. Its hard to tell if a sim car needs a stiffer rear or how much the settings make it so or how much increasing wing angle affects the car in speed and turn. The audio from the tires doesn't give enough info either. But..great video explanation.
Amazing! Let me ask u something Suelio: Do we have portuguese subtitles in your online course?
Yes!
Great video Suellio, however am I the only one that's a tiny bit bothered that you drew the car with the front end facing left?
Bro I can't believe you did this for free
I subbed because thus video thank you so much.
I decided to give iRacing "a shot" at the beginning of April since I can do my normal hobbies because of my health and I (to my suprise) fell in love and became obsessed
Suelio can you just give your pc and monitor setup, i dont see jagged lines in your gameplay but i see mine.
How does fuel affect the setup?
I'd really like to have guide for ovals
Are oversteery setups always faster? Can less oversteery setups be as fast as oversteery setups?
Just starting to watch this. How much of this can apply to Oval Racking? I'll know when I'm done but I'm curious for advice
Let's goooo
where is part 2?
I think this made a light bulb turn on in my mind.
Where part 2?
Que vídeo, uma aula incrível de setup, guiada e entendimento de carro. Você teria algum conteúdo em português? Seu livro tem versão para o português?
Its a sign
Is it working on acc also?
First you have to know are you a driver who like a sharp front end or a sharp back end. Are you a driver who like understeer in a car of rater have a overstering car.
Verstappen likes a car who got oversteer, Vettel liked a car with understeer.
You have to find what suites you the best and with what setup are you faster.
Regrettably I can only give one like haha.
Telemetry is your friend
i have 6,7k and i've never created a good setup
But you must have a comman sences, just to to avoid wrong setup wihich can make u lose your interest in the game, or can develop bad habits..
One of such common sense would be "Setup is good when it allows you to achive the top speed not any less than 2kmph than the aliens players able to achive, say 270kmph for Ferrari gt3 on Spa"
Early let’s go
First
So much music
Brilliant video ..thanks
I just wanna drive, I dont wanna spend 20 hours a weak making setups. F that. My $8000 rig sits because of this. And cheating and crazy META setups.
F sim racing. I beta tested iRacing. Been around a long time. Sim Racing used to be different, now it's full of send it COD morons.
Waaaaaaah! The senile furry pretend race car driver doesn’t want to learn to understand race cars. Waaaaaaah!