Why Your Vintage Cartier Is Fake and Unsellable.
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Cartier! How do you wear a Cartier? What are the RULES of a Cartier? Why is Christian obsessed with a small square watch? Well...we touch on that rather extensively. Cartier made so few watches for so long that's it's incredible to find a genuine vintage one...but...even if the case is Cartier, the movement is Cartier, and the dial is Cartier...it could still be very much fake. Why? How? Find out today!
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Fellas, love the channel. Topic request. You guys often mention in passing about how wild and different the watch industry used to be in the mid 20th century. I would love to hear your take on the history of it.
Big time
There is a lot of wiping of noses going on. Coke anyone?
Foooor sure ! Cooooking !
Not sure if this was purposeful or not, but funny that you discuss Goldberger and the fake Cartier Crash article by Perezcope in the same episode, but don’t discuss his most recent article exposing one of Goldberger’s most famous watches, the Unicorn Daytona, which sold at Phillips for $6million is a Frankenstein put together with incorrect and potentially fake parts.
The watch is not fake but, its been restored by Goldberger.. from the screws to the scratches... but not fake..
You're in luck, theres a Theo and Harris episode on just that
@@ethanguiel7699 yup the one that came after this one!
You 2 are a nice morning coffee duo. Good start to a Monday
Take a drink every time one of them touches their noses.
legendary goldberger and his fake white gold daytona
jose (perezscope) mentioned in a podcast that philips or some auction house offered to hire him and when they wouldnt pull the watches he thought were bullsht he left
Is there any info on this I can find?
@@CartierCrash www.scottishwatches.co.uk/2023/01/09/scottish-watches-podcast-429-fake-rolex-watches-and-exposing-the-auction-world-with-perezcope/?fbclid=PAAabpGoi8JJbgwoWJ4Q8YNbh-eQc1QxlX_u_iv4DNmZ5IlQR-pWeyIpGbXyk
He mentions it in this episode
@@CartierCrash check out todays Scottish Watches Podcast (episode 429)
@@MrIcanfly1234 I just listened whilst at work. That is insane.
@Michael , your "How Bizarre" comment in the OMC (voice) didn't go unnoticed. 😂
It's because you kept saying "Porsh". If you had said "Porsche" (Porsh-uh) she would've been "OH YES! OF COURSE!"
The Cartier ghost watches are an interesting bunch
Under no circumstances would a real Cartier have cast hallmarks. Casting hallmarks is a crime in any case. In the UK, precious metal items over a certain weight have to be sent to an Assay Office - London in this instance - to be hallmarked. It cannot be done by anyone else or in a different manner.
That Constellation is amazing!
Shout out to Anna! How is she doing these days?
Ps the blue john mayer Casio is awesome :)
That GMT is everything...
Which one of these clowns is Theo and which one is Harris ?
Rofl!!!
I'm reminded of fake Vemeer's that were auctioned and sold as authentic for some period of time...Now it is the case that these fakes are themselves collectible, and fetch quite a premium, simply because they were accepted for so long as real...the 'artist' became collectible as the creator of the fakes.
Mind you, the story of Han van Meegeren who painted the fakes is also super interesting. He had too prove in court that he could paint the fakes, because he was charged with selling Vermeers to N*zi Germany.
Allegedly Jose did have a background in replica/counterfeit Panerai way back in the day...
Unicorn fake Daytona elephant in the room with Goldberger ...
Perezcope made an appearance on today's Scottish Watches Podcast. Check it out.
Curious how many under-the-table Cartiers are on Chrono24 right now...
Lay off the white coffee guys..
concerning Goldberger: I will like to differentiate between a merchant and a collector; No way did Goldberger spend a load of money on watches simply for a recreational purpose. I do think ppl who collect to purposely sell are not collectors
I love this channel. This is quickly becoming my favorite thing to watch on RUclips.
I’m sorry, you don’t know what a 911 is!? We’re done. I can’t be with you anymore.
S#$% my father in law owns a tank, we need to up the insurance... 😉
that cartier would be worth so much more.
????!!!!! Really
Love the jacket Christian, Where is it from?
Huckberry
the stories and content is fine but can you stop picking your nose and eating on cam its pretty grubby , relaying to viewers your personal hygiene is below par . Also don't spit out your drink on cam please ? ! 🙄
…the same way we don’t notice a new haircut or shoes.
Drinking game: drink every time Jeff and Mutt scratch their noses. Shotgun if they start scratching each other’s noses.
cocaine can be itchy
Thinking exact same.
That ain't a cold.
And pure distraction from otherwise great video.
I would’ve broken up with her on the spot 🤷🏻♂️
Perez did it on purpose to get a chrash for less than 400k
STOP PICKING YOUR NOSE!!
It’s itchy
A LOT of super rare comex and daytonas and all those rare vintage watches you see on instagram are totally frankensteined from real and fake/vietnam parts.
WHAT IS UP WITH THE NOSE TOUCHING!!!!!
Christian is whats EVERYTHING wrong with the watch world
by minute 3:00 the blond guy has touched his nose around 10 times and the guy with glasses about 3. They messed up by mentioning that in the last episode, now is just impossible not to get annoyed by it.
Dear Theo, I had to stop watching because you literally picked your nose… I mean you always mess with your nose ( which annoyed me always) but in this vid
I threw up in my mouth.
People who's entire body language revolves around the watch on their wrist, cannot be trusted.
Hey guys, love the videos, wondering if you could do one on how to settle on a watch while looking. I find myself switching between watches too frequently to end up buying one, and feel like this might be relatable for some
Most relatable comment ever. I have been back and forth for like 2 months and the only reason I haven’t pulled the trigger is because I see so many I like.
Same here Finn
This is so interesting! Funny thing, I've heard that Andy Warhol's art has had similar problems. Back in the day of the Warhol Factory, it was rumored that his assistants would make paintings on the side to giveaway or sell to people back door style. The paintings were screen prints, so it was easy to do. They are coming from the legit source but not authorized by the artist. Anyways love the channel and hope all is well.
Hell even Rembrandt let his students make paintings in his name.
WTF is always going on with them rubbing. picking & itching their noses???...God Damn!?🤨
nose candy for breakfast makes for an itchy afternoon. . .
Please turn in your watch douche cards for not referring to him as Auro Montanari :) nice episode gents.
I'd hate to be a girl dating the tan one. You'd have to hear him talk about cars and watches all the time and if you don't know as much about these things as some basement dwelling moderator of the carsandwatches subreddit he doesn't talk to you the rest of dinner. Yikes
I think they both bat for the other team.😉😉
I honestly thought they were together.
Well aren’t y’all a bunch of negative wankers 🙂
If it's confirmed to be made by a Cartier watchmaker within the Cartier factory who was a friend of another Cartier employee and just sold it off the books then it adds a really cool story to that watch. IMO it makes the watch much more interesting than other crashes that were just commissioned by some rich Cartier clients.
Saw a guy in the gym yesterday wearing a gold Tank Louis on alligator strap. Fuckin legendary.
You could be more interesting. If you were not what you are. But the fact that I'm watching you two right now is not speaking in my favour. So keep on rolling!
The Porsche story would hold up better if any of them knew how to pronounce Cartier. Shes not interested in cars, hes not interested in language/words.
Christian, how many tries did it take to get that exact fold in your jacket collar for the fake casual look, just saying 🤔
Micheal - oh a new scene… better rubs my nose 1000 times
So F’n annoying. Can’t even watch the episode watching him wipe his nose like a coke head the entire 30 minute video. RIDICULOUS
I do not know how the 911 looks like well. What is the diff with a carrera? What is the diff with the cayman? I know there is an SUV like one, cayene. My father had a small one and the suv at some point when I was young but I just never got beyond this point.
I can understand why Anna don't know what Porsche is. She has absolutely no interest in cars except as a form of transportation. Now if it were watches then it'll be different. Lol
It's true. I bought a fake one from ebay without knowing it was fake. I sent it in for authentication and they came back and said "sorry." This was before the bay guarantee though. So I gave it to my 9 year old lol
Michael, I am really enjoying watching you become the Alpha right before our very 👀 eyes.
Haha neither are Alpha!
@@nathanf1934 I didn't say was I said become, and you are right they are both Beta's
you mean the top?
How we looking on those podcasts boys? You could probably just use the audio from your videos and upload them 😉 t
Love the show. Could you guys stop hitting the table or move the mic? Really love the show again.
Michael, with your comment about the lugs on the Zenith Chronomaster OG was that the 2018 or 2021 version because there is a lug thickness change 🤨
No minimum on the bidding? There are hundreds of parts that can be compared to known Cartiers.
Check out the Scottish Watches podcast with Perezcope that came out today (January 9).
I see that Michael purchased a Speedmaster Pro over the holidays. I'm guessing the hesolite version
Very interesting discussion. Curious to hear your thoughts on Perez and the Unicorn…. Thanks guys!
I enjoy the channel… air purifier sponsor pronto, to clear the allergens.
Christian has the WG Pepsi warmed you up to modern sports watches at all?
Finally an interesting show, no bashing! YEY! Follow this line...
The intro was hilarious! HOW DO YA NOT KNOW!?!?!
I heard since the vintage market is so valuable that other countries are making vintage watches and I think that’s what’s happening with a lot of them when we say I’ve never seen this type before or so many flaws I think they’re making fake ones over seas especially very expensive ones but of course it’s not gonna turn out right
i have a vintage Calatrava made by the government of Mozambique. It's godawful.
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Blackberry Gingerale, that is a classy choice
If she hasn’t seen a Mini Cooper……Dump her😂
Vacheron does custom watches
Ayo the 911 is the best car ever
Guys , I really like you. You are so funny 😂
first view dang
Damn … beat me to it 😒
Who's Theo and who's Harris?
I love this comment lol
Harris is the one in glasses. Not sure who Theo is, unless he's talking about the son on the Cosby show.
@@omar10213245 this guy lmao hahahaha