The ONE-SHOT Hanzo buff is looking good
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
- Discussing the AMA answers on Hanzo from the developers.
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DEVELOPERS PLEASE DONT TURN ME INTO A SERIAL COPER I BEG YOU
Dude, I love you but you are.
They made it clear that they don't give a shit about Hanzo or his players in their reply.
The best we'll get is Sombra & Genji (cause fuck Japs is always on the devs' minds).
So 4 in total.
Could be click bait too, but come on. You don't need that, & we know ow devs, & the treatment & fate of Hanzo & Genji.
There's hope! 🙏
I'm sorry Arrge. its coming. it'll only be genji and MAYBE echo/genji that get hp nerfs, I don't think they like hanzo over at team 3 :,(
Dev of ow2 are good to go to mental care hospital... They make stupidS changes to... Come back some season laters...
Honestly dude just quit overwatch , devs are cooked
Watch Them make sombra 240hp n call it a day
Edit: HELL YEA WW8 IN THE REPLIES
Honestly I would celebrate any sombra nerf
@@ClipsInc. bronze detected
@@KalleDemos666 cope+ cancer sombra detected.
Imagine reacting to anybody who says that your character is overpowered with the response of saying that they're not good enough to counter it.This is directly saying that they are not good enough with it in order to hang. @@ClipsInc.
@@greasysurfaces ? I’m not sure what you are saying but glad I’m pissing off sombra player/simps.
Nah next buff gona be probably his jump to be like from 5 meters ahead to 6 or smth as useful as dragon buff.
Sad that the 5 to 6 is better
"The trajectory of Hanzo's lunge has been increased by 5 degrees. We expect this to bring his performance in line with other meta heroes"
- Blizzard in 2025, probably
@@P-39_Airacobra HAHAHAHAH
@@P-39_Airacobra coming back to this in 2025.
The fact that people will harass a content creator soley for the reason that he is trying to get a buff on a character that they hate in a video game is insane to me. That end part shows that this isn't some bs "cyberbullying" or something you can ignore but your career and livelihood is at risk, these people are actually awful. I'm sorry arrge hopefully more people show up to love your content like we do
"Cyberbullying" is a lame term its notbullying. Grow skin
@@m3rkbullw0rm48 Ah we found a cyber bully.
Apparently bro doesn’t know what bullying is😂 I’ve seen people tell him to off himself over him playing hanzo. Other people need to grow up
Hanzo lives in their head rent free
@@Klyttorius I think it is more towards keyboard warrior 😂
There is zero chance they make kiriko 225 hp. Their biggest money cow will never be nerfed. I can assure you
@Ori_fr every "nerf" she gets is extremely minor or followed by a buff, and she has been one of the best supports since release
@@Ori_fr nerf = 0.7 less suzu or smth stupid still the best support in the game with the best ult imo
@@Ori_fr bro are ypu seriouse? she has been the best support since release, where the hell are you seeing this nerfs? yes she technically is being nerfed, but if she still best support in the game are they nerfs?
you mean mercy
Mercy is their biggest money cow. there’s a reason her stupid-ass kit hasn’t been reworked
Make it so that Hanzo has a passive where he deals something like 10% more dmg to enemies who are revealed. That way he has to rely on his sonic arrows for the one-shot (kinda like Roadhog with Pig Pen). This also brings synergy with characters who give vision like Widow or Sombra.
That's a great idea
wow thats actually a really great idea
Nah this is a terrible idea. Sonic is really good for providing utility to your team, so this change would either A. further incentivize the unfun Spamzo who sits with his team and shoots at the choke or B. incentivize incredibly selfish play where Hanzo saves sonic only for himself and never provides value to the team.
@@bruhvenant hows it much different from any other DPS spamming down a choke point?
Sorry to hear what you've been going through, Sensei. Rest assured, we will carry on the fight. I'm sure you'll be there in spirit. Your own success and happiness is top priority and I hope things start looking up for you soon!
Haters can eat a kyrpä, bro. You're my favorite OW creator and I'm glad somebody pushes for my main to get some of his identity restored. Keep slaying, brother!
I'm commenting to spread this and make the video engagement rate higher
I'd be COMPLETELY satisfied with just having more heroes to one shot rather than the overall one-shot return. I've accepted that the overall one-shot is never coming back, however if they give hanzo a range of heroes he could one shot, he'd be in a much better place in terms of feel and value, it also wouldn't promote pocketing. This is the absolute best case scenario, hanzo doesn't need to dominate the game as the big bad mid range one-shot. We were lucky he was still able to one shot arguably 2 of the biggest value dps in the game. Overall, I'm glad this is even being considered, I hope they go through with expanding his one-shot potential. Give a dragon a bone. Thanks, Arrge, for fighting for us.
I agree. Take away some of our tank busting as needed to balance it and let us one shot ashe, sojourn, cass, genji and sombra again
@@Htiy they already buffed tanks tho against hanzo now we do 25% less damage against heads
@dubstepforever99 he still shreds tho tbh, since it's only a 5% damage reduction on armor, by all means, let tanks have their survivability in any way, shape or form they need it💀 I'm glad they gave the headshot reduction, however the armor change is no pun intended a legit chink in the armor.
@@dubstepforever99I mean the armor changes have a real chink against burst damage, so hanzo is still quite effective against most tanks in terms of denying the space they are fighting for since they just get chunked.
I think the best case scenario, they put hanzos health down to 225 and his arrows do 125 so he has his one shot back.
I'd even take 200hp
Thank you Arrge for fighting for my favorite hero in Overwatch, Hanzo (from Overwatch, the video game).
This video needs more engagement ! Thank you Arrge!
Ya take care of yourself first, you have done more than enough and taken more risk than any cc would.
Like the kinda haters hanzo has ate insane you can't desl with them continuously, they will make it their job to hate post.
It's like hanzo stole their cat or something.
Like I know people who don't even play the game for two years but will come and hate post in every hanzo discussion.
I suggest you lower your standards after the last Hanzo changes. I think it's clear that they won't do a significant number of characters nut rather around 6 who can get one shot
problem is there is too many hanzo haters and not enough hanzo lovers.. hanzo mains are a dying breed and this is all because of blizzard we been shafted again and again there is barely anyone who wants to keep him as his main anymore.. people are just constantly complaining about hanzo whenever he gets a buff and blizzard listen to majority.
@@dubstepforever99 So true bro... but if that's the case why would they release such a fire skin for the OWCS? That's what I've been wondering.
Arrge, You're the best! I subscribed because I love your content!
LOVE YOUR CONTENT, DONT EVER CHANGE
We're HERE FOR U KEEP FIGHTING
playing hanzo against sombra might actually be the most miserable thing to do in existence, even when i hit my headshot its just impossible to follow up with another shot to secure the kill if they play it right, the only thing you can do is pray for them to be dumb
Kinda crazy to think about since when Hanzo could one shot playing Sombra into him was basically not ideal now its the opposite. lol
@@ranjnijan3446 yeah, when I first started playing genji Hanzo was one of my biggest fears, I needed to get him out of his position but a single mistake of mine would cost my life, it was a high risk play and that's what made it so satisfying when I actually managed to survive a Hanzo
He’s supposed to be a sniper and should not be favored in 1v1 vs a flanker
@@Yuhyuh6956 a sniper who cant kill people from distance? and its not a question of being favorable in a 1v1 situation, its a question of having a fair chance, which he doesnt have at this point unless the enemy sombra makes some huge mistake and you manage to hit a headshot + bodyshot/storm arrow without missing
We are proud that you at least stepped up and stirred the pot so to say. I always enjoy watching your videos and it helps me settle down if I watch one of your videos every day. Take care.
sending much love arrge sorry you are dealing with hate at that level. Nobody deserves that amount of hate over a video game.
Good luck with it, dude; I hope you figure it all out. I'll be watching ;)
Love you vids been watching since season 7 your why I became a hanzo main your also why my gameplay has drastically gotten better so thanks for being you 🙏🏼
I love you Arrge I will support you and your content no matter what
Much love to you, i hope you do well. It’s sad people are like this over a simple video game. Especially when probably 99.9% of those people don’t even have livelihoods staked on said video game that they ‘could’ use as a flimsy but ultimately inexcusable justification for hate.
they hate a character so much that all of that hate goes to anyone who wants to make a change to hanzo for the better
Much love for you Arrge, your my fav hanzo main (obviously) and i just love to watch ur videos and ur content in general. Pls keep doing what ur doing even when the hater are hating, there will be better days. :)
I have not watched you for years, i remember i think you had like 10k subs, you popped off!!! insane
Ive been a fan from about the start of the year, your gameplay style and humor are what made me really continue watching your videos, I hope people understand we are still talking about a videogame and let people have fun
good vid arrge you got this keep ur head up
I love that you are being genuine about the game and the state of ow content creation, not many big creators talk about it
Man, I don't keep up with streamers/content creators at all but I do like to tune into your videos, particularly when I'm working. I don't even play Hanzo, I'm a support main! I'm so sorry to hear about the hate you've been getting and that it's caused such an effect - I think your work is great.
I HOPE ITS A BUFFFFFF
I think the issue with hanzo is that his current arrow damage and slow firing speed makes him rely on one shots.
Giving him faster firing speed and lowering his damage could make him more like Cassidy rather than a weaker widowmaker.
I genuinely would've preferred if they made it so your draw time speed up for a few seconds when ya land a shot but this is an improvement at least (i hope)
I dont care what ppl say Arrge. You were and still are my first OW content creator who made me enjoy playing hanzo. Ppl hating on you dont understand just how much skill it took to play the old hanzo.
keep strong arrge
Arrow pull peak is my suggestion. When drawing back the arrow it would reach max pull that would one shot, but that would only last half a second or so before losing a bit of the draw distance. Realistic, timing, skill.
We love you, arrge❤
Keep up the great work .
Crazy. Thanks for fighting a good fight. And thanks for giving me some of my best OW memories maining Hanzo 💪
Hanzo is my favorite character in this game. You are one of my fav content creators playing him.
I still don't know wtf the devs were thinking when they just nerfed him, but then buffed every other character in to two tap range, meanwhile here we have to play draw bow, not whiff the second shot, dodge the high rate of fire / ability. It feels rough, but satisfying dominating. But we definitely shouldn't be getting out dps'd by Kiriko headshot spam.
I'll be happy if they reward my headshots with deadshots on the roster again. Projectile vs hitscan is the challenge, the slow rate of fire is already the balancing mechanism.
I admire your authenticity arrge
I started playing overwatch again with my main Hanzo. i have headshotted sombra so many times to her not dying and killing me! MY PC IS NOT BROKEN YET!! but soon it will be if this doesn't get fixed lol. On a side note I have been watching you for quite some time Arrge. Thank you for the beautiful content you are one of my favorite Overwatch creators.
It is very unfortunate how much hate you get man. I am a Hanzo main too, but i only started playing Overwatch this January, you quickly became my favourite Overwatch streamer/youtuber and i will continue to watch you for as long as you upload. i understand how difficult it may be to get so much backlash, but thank you for standing up for yourself and other Hanzo players. I hope they actually fix him this time, though i wish we could revert the tree sized arrow. best of luck with everything
much love arrge, hope everything gets better
thanks for the video, and wearing my favorite orange shirt :^) im itskat from stream :^) sorry to hear everything that's been going on. we're all here for you 🤗
Yo arrge, just wanna thank you for teaching me all I know about hanzo. Just keep making content man and I hope people learn to just state opinions in a less disrespectful manner. Have a good day! :D
To retain body shot damage they could just give a lil tweak to the crit multiplier, enough to one shot but not enough to one shot everyone but tanks and bastion
well this will make hanzo feel better but if the enemy teams so decides they will switch to the non one shottable heroes once they think you're carrying. unless it's pretty ubiquitous i am not confident.
That's the most realistic prediction
To be fair. doing so would make it so they dont have anyone rushing you as easily so. Still a win win, just gotta adjust. Wouldnt be any different than how things are now
Eh it's not that bad. Forcing them off Echo, Sojourn, Tracer etc. is pretty good value since almost every other dps is far worse atm.
How about his sonar does damage to enemys or acts like a zen orb.
So it's a 2 step one shot
I main hanxo as dps and he is painful to play sometimes. Getting a headshot and hearing that ding then not getting an elim is nuts. Just a tank shredder and assist magnet, DRAGON SUCKS even more now
I play as a moira and I dont fear a hanzo at all in gold
Love that you’re open about your life. You being real is another reason I love your content. Sorry about all the haters, they just envy skill and lash out at it.
wish you all the best, you don't deserve any hate
I love what you'd doing! And blizzard should thank you for voicing yourself for all Hanzo mains. I straight up stop playing Overwatch after Hanzo changes, and play other games for now. I tried Widow but it's not the same, so I looking forward to have one-shot back, otherwise I can't imagine having fun in Overwatch again.
If Genji and Tracer get armor, I'm considering that as the best opportunity for me to uninstall this game. That would be 3 back to back seasons of straight Reaper nerfs, even though he's absolute garabge. Saying he's the worst hero is not even enough of statement to describe the position he would be in.
this game doesnt like onetricks anymore, you just gotta pick 3 different heros and hope all 3 arnt deleted one season
reaper hasn't been good since release, idk why anyone in their right mind would main him
@@wendigo374 Wish I knew that it would end up this way when I picked him up in OW1
Thanks!
Omg thank you so much!!!!
You don’t deserve to get hate Arrge. Keep doing what you do ❤
my idea is after each 5-10 sec hanzo can do 1 shot (boost damage) and each shot reset the time
Arrge I think your hanzo opinion is the most valid in the community, don't let the noobs who can't beat hanzo overpower you with their complaints!! Love the videos
LETS GO!
So weird of them saying that they wanted to reduce burst damage when the dps passive is still in the game 🤔
Anyway, stay strong man, you opened my eyes to how fun playing hanzo is, or... was... still coping for the oneshot to be back lol
hey arrge, im sorry that you’ve gotten so much hate. im not an active part of this community but i watch most of your videos and its clear to anyone who does that youre a really chill guy. Good luck with whatever you decide to do with your content, I’ll always watch it!
I think the best way to go about it is bring back hanzo one shot and either lower him to 200 Hp so he can get one shot back or make it a distance thing
I played overwatch again after like 2 months and the amount of times I got a headshot but the person survived is insane. Like, I headshotted a junkrat, he survived, went around a corner, popped ult and killed me. I also headshotted a rezing mercy, she survived, rezed the junkrat and he killed me.
Also did Winston get a buff or something recently? Because he was always annoying and stupid but it seems like his bubble or jump was on a lower cool down?
They reduced dmg tanks get on a headshot
yea they buffed tanks so thats another nerf to hanzo you barely do any dmg against tanks unloading all your storm arrows in the head, and hanzo has way worse escapes like other damage dealers so he just gets picked off.
No, they didn't change winston cooldowns at all, nothing changed except for the middle season tank changes.
@@dubstepforever99 Hanzo deals much more damage against armour now. You shred them with storm arrow.
Went from flat 30% dmg reduction, to -5 damage for Hanzo against armour.
@@Klyttoriusand that's a pretty significant buff when fighting tanks specifically, like, I actually MELTED a fortified orisa because of storm arrows, and I'm not gonna lie, I despise fighting orisas, but that doesn't sit right with me, the sniper character being a spam tank buster is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a videogame
I like you and your statements I dont care what haters say. Lets hope they make hanzo more satisfying for skilled people again.
I understand that you are under a lot of pressure but, I think with your unique personality people will still support you in any other hero or even game. I know I will still watch you and press that like button.
hanzo was like a high risk, high reward character but now even if you hit headshots and take time to line up your shots they wont even kill.. so its just better to spam and chip away at their health and hope someone else hits them as well.
What do you think would happen if they made hanzo's arrows really small, like .05 or smaller, but he got his 125 dmg back?
the moment i saw these online i immediately checked if u posted, I'm so excited dude. im sorry about all the haters, idk why people hate on the characters with a high skill ceiling when characters like moira or reaper are fine, but good luck dude, love your content
Miss old overwatch
Arrge, I respect you no matter where you take your career, man. Don't take the hate to heart. Sure, you have your cringe moments, but that's EVERY content creator. You have to figure out how to sell yourself and make the RUclips algorithm work for you. If other content creators on Twitter are calling you cringe, they're being hypocritical because I guarantee they do the same stuff. You're a happy dude who likes to have fun and it shows in your videos. I really hope you're able to get some consistency financially :/
We love you arrge
respect and prosperity
Honestly man, the game being how it is, i wouldn't mind seeing what else you like to play.
I started watching you because hanzo allowed you to do a funny suprise attack playstyle, and it was that creativity that i liked. If you would want to experiment on the side channel with other games i would be done to try
Dont worry daddy arrge, we will stand with you till the end
changing heroes hp would be bad imo, since reduce their hp would nerf them against all others
i think they just need to improve crit multiplier for hanzo
Couldn't they just drop hanzos damage to 100 and give him a 2.5x hs multiplier like widow has
That's an even worse change, he already has trouble with bodyshots because of the projectile hitbox, making him completely unplayable if you are against a Pharah or an Echo and even a Bastion
@@ever611Storm arrow is here for that though
@@ever611 he'd suffer with a change like that up close to tanks too since some of them you have to look up a little bit to see their heads, their hands/shoulders/etc block the hs
that would be worse
Much love arrge don’t let the noobs get you down❤
We understand bro focus on ur career man. But make sure you still enjoy it. Thas all
ppl really dont know the line " dont hate the player- hate game" smh - wishing you luck
The problem with one-shots isn't anything to do with denying player skill. It's that it comes out of nowhere and the only counter play is to not have been there in the first place, even though you didnt know where not to be; It's the same for Widow and also why Sombra sucks to go against as well. It's why historically most games don't include one-shots or if they do there's a telegraph BEFORE the shot. Hell, go back as far as Quake 3, if you had 1 shard of armour a rail shot would leave you with 1hp even if you only had 5hp at the time. Halo 3's Spartan laser had wind-up and a laser pointer so you had some chance to react.
Obviously those games didnt have abundant healing to the targets so it's not quite the same and a much more difficult set of circumstances in Overwatch, but the sentiment has always been that instantly dying out of nowhere is a bad time that should be avoided for the health of a game. The only time being one-shot is acceptable is if everyone can do it. Same goes for flying imo, but that's another discussion.
I love hanzo actually takes skill to play cuz he shoots projectiles instead of straight lazer beams lmao
i think they could absolutely bring hanzo to a comfortable level if they did one of two things:
1. go through with the general oneshot return, still unable to kill some of the higher hp targets but somewhere in the 15-20 hero range so that he's comfortably viable without getting dove so easily
2. give him the lower end oneshot return to some of the biggest problem heroes (echo, sombra, genji, kiriko, moira, sojourn) AND give him 2 charges of his leap. This would both allow him to have some more comfort in getting dove with the ability to react, however also actually provide the chance to escape in more dangerous situations against those heroes that he cant delete. even a horizontal widow grapple goes 2-3x the distance of hanzo's leap.
I agree with most of this but I do want to point out that Widow's grapple is on a 12 second cooldown and it's harder for Widow to fend for herself up close than Hanzo since Hanzo also has a wall climb and doesn't have reduced movement speed when shooting. Assuming that what you mean by giving the dash two charges is making it like Tracer's blinks where they charge individually, one after the other, Hanzo's movement would be absolutely insane when coupled with his ability to fight more effectively than Widow up close. (TL;DR, Widow's grapple has a longer cd than Hanzo's dash so it's okay that it goes longer and giving him two would make it impossible to dive a character that is meant to be dove)
@@nerdzr6131 hanzo does have reduced movement speed when shooting, during bow drawback and when an arrow is drawn back you’re significantly slower. Also, 2 charges of his jump would still go less distance than widow grapple is capable of, yet it would be around the same cooldown length as one widow grapple.
i really love your content my man, been watching you since scatter arrow was still a thing, hopefully this haters find something better to do with their lifes instead of going at someone because of video games
Your videos are the reason I started playing Hanzo, Arrge. Keep up the great work, I'm sorry for all the haters,
I feel Hanzo needs a small rework. I would never want to face you online, but if he can't do dps, at least give me more utility to help your teammates.
Man people who hate on you really dont watch you at all and how amazing of a content creator you are for hanzo mains and i you are my guru for hanzo i instantly upgraded myself by watching 2-3 videos of yours. Screw the haters especially stupid tracer and sombra mains who want hanzo nerfed, you do you and sponsors will also follow if you keep putting amazing content. I miss the one shots 😪
It’s weird cause the result of the changes is very similar to Orisa’s situation. Her win rates and stats can look good and she can still be un-fun to play. You think that would be a case study for what not to do.
I don't play Hanzo, but I enjoy watching your videos. Thank you for being open and sharing your experiences with the community and the game.
FINALLY!
people hate hanzo so much that anyone who push for him to get buffed gets hate. They just want him to be shooting wet noodles so they don't have to think about him in comp. Everyone can see that he isn't really in a good spot right now, you know something is bad when hanzo aggro your teammates and your enemies.. teammates doesn't want to play with hanzo and the enemies doesn't want to play against hanzo.
i absolutely despise getting one shot from across the map by a stray hanzo arrow but without his one shot and with the ult change he just doesn't feel usable without a pocket, at least for the average hanzo. i honestly would be okay with him having his one shot if there was damage falloff like widow or if there were more than two heroes that could survive a headshot (other than tanks ofc). i think there's a number of ways to let hanzo do the thing he's supposed to do without it feeling horrible to play against and i hope blizzard finds a way that works
I would add brig, ana, sojourn to the green ones. brig cos she just feels like it. Btw i would be happy with the green changes, cos to be real others dont deserve to be oneshotted, like when i pop off im literally sorry for the enemy team...
Instead of going back too 6v6 blizzard will rework every hero at a rate of 1 hero per 2 months...
Nice video
I love Hanzo so much
oh God, if he gets one shot back, remove storm arrows, change sonic to a 20 second cooldown, and change arrow hitbox to 0.00 meters, so like hitscan
Didnt know you were getting this weird type of hate, im just a new ow2 player who loves hanzo defo gonna stay.
I would take a nerf to genji’s HP if they actually made raw blade more than a cooldown bait and gave him dmg to compensate for S9 changes. If he drops to 225 hp 29 dmg shurikens should be fine
The Hero that needs to be 1 shot the most is Venture. Everything that Character does is AOE damage.
she does not need to hit you TO HIT YOU.
I just returned to ow and found that my main (Hanzo) cant oneshot shit anymore so was hella confused