I never thought that elevators from the early 1900's didn't always have intelocks. I knew they where very simple and unreliable. Too bad that the third elevator is a new built, but understandable because of the extension, the glass inner doors at least better then folding inner doors. I wonder if they ever built elevators with scissorgates as shaft doors. You sometimes see them in movies but where they ever built that way?
+dykodesigns2yt this was quite common in England and maybe France, but I never heard about that here. Unlike Sweden or UK, elevators in Germany from these old days were usually locked and that was easier to arrange with an ordinary swing door. But maybe some hotels or department stores from the early 1900's used to have that. It is quite likely. However, such wonderful heritage operator-controlled elevators have not preserved :(
In Vienna, there are several dormant operator-controlled lifts from around 1900 still in place I think, often out of service since WWII. I helped carefully dismantling two of those for a future museum over the past year, including what was left of the motor room. One was absolutely complete with the original DC motor, the other was missing the rotor and a few other components. None of them had scissor gates though and looking at the designs I strongly suspect they were considered unsafe already back then - all those lifts I've seen are built in a way that you can't stick anything larger than a finger through the shaft doors and scissor gates would let an entire arm through.
Intresting video, but the last elevator seems soo weird in that shaft!The closest I came to that was an old elevator getting it's gate replaced with automatic innerdoors. It has been modernsied - and extended - twice! The first one to the basement, getting a hinged door there, and the latest one at the attic - having auomatic shaft door, that opens with the inner door.
+ADDEs Transporting Adventures! wow, very special. This elevator here comes quite close. They just replaced the shaft door in the basement rather than extending it there. Even though the original feel of the elevator has been terribly messed up, I like the unusual way of modernisation. It tells a whole story :)
Mein Tipp wäre, dass 1929 das erste Umbaujahr ist - von Handsteuerung auf Tastersteuerung, eventuell sogar mit neuem Antrieb, z.B. von Gleich- auf Wechselstrom. Kompletter Tausch von Steuerung und Antrieb gilt dann leicht als Neubau, auch wenn Schacht und Kabine gleich bleiben.
damn its this fair? you have there three and we here none - so be such nice and sent us one please... i wait patiently... great video, epic wonderful elevators
there should be at least some historic treasures in Prague... very classic city. I found most of these elevators behind locked residential doors, so they are quite hard to get sometimes, but they are worth it :) In Germany, there are also not many of these classic elevators left. I heard Munich has a few, but Hamburg and Berlin seem to be the most common German cities for historic elevators like these... on the other hand, you've got more simple Transporta elevators there. But they are totally awesome. I remember a video of three big transporta elevators without inner doors beside each other, surrounded by tile walls. Totally beautiful. Its really hard to find such things here - and if you do, they're with inner doors, at least the small elevators are.
+Uplifting PostTower yes Prague is our favourite target - but as you wrote - all treasures are locked - this year we sure find some great old elevators :) also i guess in Vienna can hide some really awesome old lifts... My first comment was just such joking - not jealous really - i forgot to get there smiley... im really glad that you search for such historic elevator treasures and filmed them for future - its really pleasure to watch it (for us also with bonus (Ritchie still likes to watch and we use it as therapy support) so hope you can go behind all closed doors :)
you may consider just talking to people in Prague, ring the bells, tell then what this is about (private documentation of historic elevators) and that might work... try it out :) it worked fine for me. This way, I managed to film a full load of more than 50 historic elevators.
+251Aloha stimmt. Wobei ich aber gleich dazu sagen muss, dass das für meinen Geschmack nicht soo sehr ins Gewicht fällt, weil die benachbarten, scheinbar fast identischen Anlagen mehr oder weniger historisch sind. Insofern ist der hier verschandelte Aufzug wenigstens kein für immer und ewig ruiniertes Unikat. Das tröstet doch ein wenig ;) - zumindest so lange die anderen beiden Kisten so klassisch bleiben! In Deutschland sind historische Aufzüge ggf. vom Denkmalschutz umfasst, bei privaten Wohnhäusern scheint der Denkmalschutz aber oft ein Auge zuzudrücken, wohl auch, weil man die meisten der alten Schachtdrehtüren erhalten hat - wenn auch seltsam verbastelt.
Immerhin sind in Deutschland ein paar Aufzüge unter Denkmalpflege. In der Schweiz in Luzern wurde vor kurzer Zeit eine total originale Anlage von ca. 1925 durch eine mega hässliche Anlage ersetzt!
jup der letzte absolut hässlich wie man sowas nur erlauben darf skandal passt überhaupt nicht rein in das gebäude auch optisch nicht standart ware drinen verbaut
I never thought that elevators from the early 1900's didn't always have intelocks. I knew they where very simple and unreliable. Too bad that the third elevator is a new built, but understandable because of the extension, the glass inner doors at least better then folding inner doors. I wonder if they ever built elevators with scissorgates as shaft doors. You sometimes see them in movies but where they ever built that way?
+dykodesigns2yt this was quite common in England and maybe France, but I never heard about that here. Unlike Sweden or UK, elevators in Germany from these old days were usually locked and that was easier to arrange with an ordinary swing door. But maybe some hotels or department stores from the early 1900's used to have that. It is quite likely. However, such wonderful heritage operator-controlled elevators have not preserved :(
In Vienna, there are several dormant operator-controlled lifts from around 1900 still in place I think, often out of service since WWII. I helped carefully dismantling two of those for a future museum over the past year, including what was left of the motor room. One was absolutely complete with the original DC motor, the other was missing the rotor and a few other components.
None of them had scissor gates though and looking at the designs I strongly suspect they were considered unsafe already back then - all those lifts I've seen are built in a way that you can't stick anything larger than a finger through the shaft doors and scissor gates would let an entire arm through.
Totally amazing, and awesome!
+John Elevator thank you :)
Intresting video, but the last elevator seems soo weird in that shaft!The closest I came to that was an old elevator getting it's gate replaced with automatic innerdoors. It has been modernsied - and extended - twice! The first one to the basement, getting a hinged door there, and the latest one at the attic - having auomatic shaft door, that opens with the inner door.
+ADDEs Transporting Adventures! wow, very special. This elevator here comes quite close. They just replaced the shaft door in the basement rather than extending it there. Even though the original feel of the elevator has been terribly messed up, I like the unusual way of modernisation. It tells a whole story :)
Mein Tipp wäre, dass 1929 das erste Umbaujahr ist - von Handsteuerung auf Tastersteuerung, eventuell sogar mit neuem Antrieb, z.B. von Gleich- auf Wechselstrom. Kompletter Tausch von Steuerung und Antrieb gilt dann leicht als Neubau, auch wenn Schacht und Kabine gleich bleiben.
caged elevators are very entertaining.
damn its this fair? you have there three and we here none - so be such nice and sent us one please... i wait patiently...
great video, epic wonderful elevators
+richieselevators you do not have such old and beautiful elevators around?
+Uplifting PostTower probably are all in Berlin as i see (luck for you)... so can i pick one now? :)))
there should be at least some historic treasures in Prague... very classic city. I found most of these elevators behind locked residential doors, so they are quite hard to get sometimes, but they are worth it :)
In Germany, there are also not many of these classic elevators left. I heard Munich has a few, but Hamburg and Berlin seem to be the most common German cities for historic elevators like these...
on the other hand, you've got more simple Transporta elevators there. But they are totally awesome. I remember a video of three big transporta elevators without inner doors beside each other, surrounded by tile walls. Totally beautiful. Its really hard to find such things here - and if you do, they're with inner doors, at least the small elevators are.
+Uplifting PostTower yes Prague is our favourite target - but as you wrote - all treasures are locked - this year we sure find some great old elevators :) also i guess in Vienna can hide some really awesome old lifts...
My first comment was just such joking - not jealous really - i forgot to get there smiley... im really glad that you search for such historic elevator treasures and filmed them for future - its really pleasure to watch it (for us also with bonus (Ritchie still likes to watch and we use it as therapy support) so hope you can go behind all closed doors :)
you may consider just talking to people in Prague, ring the bells, tell then what this is about (private documentation of historic elevators) and that might work... try it out :) it worked fine for me. This way, I managed to film a full load of more than 50 historic elevators.
Der letzte ist am hässlichsten umgebaut! Schande solche wunderbare Aufzüge gehörten alle unter Denkmalschutz!
+251Aloha stimmt. Wobei ich aber gleich dazu sagen muss, dass das für meinen Geschmack nicht soo sehr ins Gewicht fällt, weil die benachbarten, scheinbar fast identischen Anlagen mehr oder weniger historisch sind. Insofern ist der hier verschandelte Aufzug wenigstens kein für immer und ewig ruiniertes Unikat. Das tröstet doch ein wenig ;) - zumindest so lange die anderen beiden Kisten so klassisch bleiben!
In Deutschland sind historische Aufzüge ggf. vom Denkmalschutz umfasst, bei privaten Wohnhäusern scheint der Denkmalschutz aber oft ein Auge zuzudrücken, wohl auch, weil man die meisten der alten Schachtdrehtüren erhalten hat - wenn auch seltsam verbastelt.
Immerhin sind in Deutschland ein paar Aufzüge unter Denkmalpflege. In der Schweiz in Luzern wurde vor kurzer Zeit eine total originale Anlage von ca. 1925 durch eine mega hässliche Anlage ersetzt!
oh mist. Sowas liegt schwer im Magen.
Das ist widerlich. Es zeigt wirklich, wie Menschen in diesen Tagen sind. :'-(
jup der letzte absolut hässlich wie man sowas nur erlauben darf skandal passt überhaupt nicht rein in das gebäude auch optisch nicht standart ware drinen verbaut