The Paternoster: Europe's Doorless Elevator

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2015
  • The paternoster is a doorless, conveyor-belt-style elevator that is largely extinct, except in Germany, where enthusiasts have kept the lifts running. Photo: Ellen Jervell/The Wall Street Journal
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Комментарии • 145

  • @fercho3689
    @fercho3689 Год назад +59

    What if you never get off the elevator? Do you spin around? What if you miss floor one?

    • @dilllinrhatigan6126
      @dilllinrhatigan6126 Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/-Kq1D6FS7LM/видео.html

    • @dilllinrhatigan6126
      @dilllinrhatigan6126 Год назад +2

      This video explains

    • @thejj5159
      @thejj5159 Год назад +23

      @@dilllinrhatigan6126 no it doesn’t

    • @socksygen
      @socksygen Год назад

      you die immediately

    • @gammacxy
      @gammacxy Год назад +34

      you come out 1000 years later which felt like just a snap for you but it was 1000 years for everyone else

  • @jenniferbourne1053
    @jenniferbourne1053 10 месяцев назад +27

    The part of my brain that says "that's dangerous!" and the part of my brain that wants to use one of these are having a fight right now.

  • @207522
    @207522 8 месяцев назад +9

    0:38 Actually, that's not true. There are still some in other European countries as well. I've seen a coupe in Prague, Czech Republic as well.

  • @robert3302
    @robert3302 6 лет назад +76

    They are very practical in low rise, high volume areas, like universities and city halls.

    • @boop9430
      @boop9430 Год назад

      Agreed! My school’s library needs one of these

    • @TheKewlPerson
      @TheKewlPerson Год назад +4

      so are stairs though...

    • @orangecookie3132
      @orangecookie3132 Год назад +5

      ​@@TheKewlPersonstairs take up so much room though

    • @Fle-2870
      @Fle-2870 3 месяца назад +1

      What if someone is an elderly? Or slow motion ?

    • @danylbekhoucha6180
      @danylbekhoucha6180 Месяц назад

      @@orangecookie3132 Not spiral stairs.

  • @Russia_Moscow_countryhuman
    @Russia_Moscow_countryhuman Год назад +34

    Imagine missing your floor and having to go around it again 💀

    • @itslexi_
      @itslexi_ 10 месяцев назад +22

      I assume you step out on the next floor and ride one floor down

    • @notsureiL
      @notsureiL 4 месяца назад +1

      They go sideways when they reach the top or the bottom. Not dangerous to go all the way up or down. People have tried it on youtube .

    • @lalotime
      @lalotime 4 месяца назад +3

      Imagine tripping and getting resident eviled

  • @MarkKellyPhotographyUK
    @MarkKellyPhotographyUK 2 года назад +8

    We used to ride one of these in Colmers Store, Bath, UK for ages every day after school, it was magical!😁😁

  • @maestrovso
    @maestrovso 10 месяцев назад +8

    I first saw these in Netflix's Babylon Berlin that is set in pre WWII Germany. My immediate thought was how many people lost their limbs or heads back in those days. I am sure the one still operating today must have some safety interlock should you be distracted with you phone, or simply being stupid.

    • @paddybm3245
      @paddybm3245 5 месяцев назад +2

      There is actually smart design implemented. Like when you’re going up and there’s the bottom of the next floor you could loose a foot. Right? Wrong because the bottom of the next floor is hinged and would tilt upwards if you really hat your foot in it. I love them so much.

  • @MaryBethPetra
    @MaryBethPetra 6 месяцев назад +1

    I first saw one of these Paternoster elevators in "Metropolis" and thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen.

  • @jacksonjackson9015
    @jacksonjackson9015 Год назад +58

    For some reason. Id feel a lot safer if these were the normal elevator. I get people with a disability and some elderly need normal elevators but me having a fear and been stuck in two elevators. Knowing that this never stops moving which means you wont ever stop in between floors is very cool. Also if this system ever failed it wouldnt just plumet to the ground or trap you but slowly coast down depending on which side has more people so you can just hop off instead of being forced inside a box😬

    • @Zenaidafromthemoon
      @Zenaidafromthemoon Год назад +3

      Exactly, I grew up with paternoster and I fear normal elevators because they are always suddenly stopping and the doors close and what if they never open its freaky

    • @circleinforthecube5170
      @circleinforthecube5170 Год назад +15

      normal elevators have smarter and safer designs, theres a reason germany banned these types in the 70s

    • @user-rq6mj5vw3l
      @user-rq6mj5vw3l Год назад +2

      Man was killed by one of these yesterday

    • @demi3115
      @demi3115 Год назад +2

      Instead you can just get stuck between the lift and the top of the door.

    • @circleinforthecube5170
      @circleinforthecube5170 Год назад

      @@user-rq6mj5vw3l point proven

  • @jenniferhodson1775
    @jenniferhodson1775 Год назад +4

    The one in which I rode in 2016 was located in Turku, the oldest city in Finland.

    • @7prudent
      @7prudent 8 месяцев назад +1

      Turku like Turks

  • @rykmat2542
    @rykmat2542 8 месяцев назад +3

    In Czechia, we have a lot of them still in operation. Most of them are accessible by the public and they are in hospitals too. They are a lot more efficient than regular elevators. Most of them are in listed buildings and are therefore also protected. Although there exist lots of myths and of course a few serious cases happened, paternosters are very safe and most of them operate for decades without any injury. In Prague, all the known accidents for more than 30 years in paternosters were caused by drunk tourist idiots.

  •  Год назад +21

    A brutal accident waiting to happen

    • @itslexi_
      @itslexi_ 10 месяцев назад +3

      You could say the same thing about any type of transportation that we use today but just like all of the Modern Day forms of transportation that we use this has safety measures put in place to make it as safe as possible (which is much safer than what meets the eye)!

    • @lalotime
      @lalotime 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@itslexi_ yeah but what if you trip and the bar doesn't stop it. Or you trip and your head or arm doesn't trigger the saftey bar

    • @mjedcz1
      @mjedcz1 12 дней назад

      Nothing will happen

  • @theoriginalamvgirl
    @theoriginalamvgirl Год назад +23

    Look, I’m just gonna ask: Has anybody ever died in one?
    Like, maybe somebody got onto one and lost their balance or something?
    I’m watching something on TV and they’re in Germany touring and I mentioned these lifts to my Mum and just had to show her. They’re fascinating, if not a little bit scary! ^^

    • @duderespect5211
      @duderespect5211 Год назад +1

      No one was hurt

    • @Profitglutton90
      @Profitglutton90 Год назад

      @@duderespect5211 I think she’s talking about someone being hurt in the history of its existence

    • @kamasammohana9697
      @kamasammohana9697 Год назад +10

      From 1970-1993 5 people did die from it

    • @theoriginalamvgirl
      @theoriginalamvgirl Год назад +1

      @@kamasammohana9697 Ooh … yikes … I just HAD to ask, didn’t I?

    • @gutts7433
      @gutts7433 Год назад +7

      People have died in them and that's why there was a ban on building new ones in Germany in the 70s. I saw these in The Omen recently, the part where they go to the old hospital that burned down, and was so confused at what I was seeing I had to google it! They are super interesting, I would like to try one some day honestly.

  • @elvirareb
    @elvirareb Год назад +23

    I’m scared of such elevators. It is my nightmare. I instantly can imagine body parts stuck between the floors or even being decapitated. And OMG hope kids will never be around it.

    • @itslexi_
      @itslexi_ 10 месяцев назад +3

      There are bars to sense when someone doesn't make it on that actually stop the cycle

    • @7prudent
      @7prudent 8 месяцев назад

      You are right about your fear.

    • @paddybm3245
      @paddybm3245 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s called natural selection and was quite useful.

    • @bluebee5266
      @bluebee5266 3 месяца назад +1

      Probably how these things got their name.

  • @trevorjones4289
    @trevorjones4289 22 дня назад

    Man lifts are still common place in US construction sites

  • @boop9430
    @boop9430 Год назад +6

    I wanna go on it so bad! Looks so fun 😂

  • @deoxymethyl
    @deoxymethyl Год назад +2

    Well, someone just died in one in Germany today.

  • @IvarDaigon
    @IvarDaigon 3 месяца назад

    it reminds me of those people who use those flat escalators at airports and stand still when it's actually much faster just to walk.

  • @harczymarczy
    @harczymarczy 4 года назад +22

    There are quite a lot (29 according to Wikipedia) of them in Hungary and a few examples in Czechia, Slovakia, Austria, other parts of Europe, Asia and South America.
    IMHO it should be allowed again to build them them as long as they are supplemented by at least one conventional elevator or two. They are good for non-disabled and non-elderly people (80-90%) in high-rise, high-volume buildings like office towers and public administration buildings. The remaining 10-20% should use the barrier-free conventional elevator. (Well, for skyscrapers, express elevators may provide a better solution.)

  • @aaronchapman151
    @aaronchapman151 10 месяцев назад +1

    I used the very same Paternoster, when i was at De Montfornt University in Leicester, England, back in the 90's. It was situated in Fletcher building. So much better than waiting for a lift, that never comes.

  • @njm3211
    @njm3211 2 года назад +1

    Scary

  • @fromthe808state6
    @fromthe808state6 2 года назад +6

    Saw this type of elevator in a true crime documentary. It looks super cool and this is perfect for covid.

  • @HaGoJaBee
    @HaGoJaBee 2 года назад +4

    Do they run constantly? Without break?

    • @christopherkulander3236
      @christopherkulander3236 Месяц назад +1

      Yes. While the elevator is turned on, it is continuous, like an escalator.

  • @jenniferunknown6600
    @jenniferunknown6600 4 года назад +5

    I guess if you were in a wheel chair you'd have an issue getting on

    • @rykmat2542
      @rykmat2542 8 месяцев назад

      Yes. On the wheelchair, you have to use a regular elevator which is always nearby. But healthy people use the paternoster so your waiting time is a lot shorter.

  • @ubet58
    @ubet58 4 месяца назад

    First saw this in the movie "The Counterfeit Traitor"

  • @timw8646
    @timw8646 4 месяца назад +1

    This won't work for handicap people and elderly or for large group of people

  • @ChrisWillan952
    @ChrisWillan952 4 месяца назад

    There's one in Sheffield University Arts Tower

  • @dreamsthatgotogether7553
    @dreamsthatgotogether7553 Год назад +1

    What if your backpack or scarf or something. Got caught through the bottom

  • @erichotz
    @erichotz 2 месяца назад

    I watched a documentary on these elevators. The guide in Germany assured the filmmaker that only around 1 person a year dies in them so it's OK.

  • @lalotime
    @lalotime 4 месяца назад +1

    It goes WAY too fast.

  • @Puddlycake
    @Puddlycake Год назад

    why did i think they would get compressed and loop back around like an escalator an if you stayed in you would get crushed 💀

  • @kalvin1123
    @kalvin1123 4 месяца назад

    Like an elevator equivalent to an escalator

  • @darioburstin2418
    @darioburstin2418 Год назад +1

    Seems like your backpack could easily get trapped in it

    • @itslexi_
      @itslexi_ 10 месяцев назад

      A back pack could be easily trapped in a modern elevator as well but in both it would likely be spotted by a sensor or bump the stop switch (which is the equivalent to the doors of modern elevators hitting something and reopening)
      Edit: and if it somehow DIDNT stop there is an emergency stop switch in each car

  • @umayr2935
    @umayr2935 Месяц назад

    Where are 'gonna report this to OSHA' comments now?

  • @charliecharliecharliecharl8554
    @charliecharliecharliecharl8554 Год назад +1

    Looks dangerous

  • @ianusgindea671
    @ianusgindea671 Год назад

    Dose it has any safety mechanusm?

  • @fifi.871
    @fifi.871 Год назад +1

    It's safe for ppl with mobility. If you can't get on fast enough, it is dangerous

    • @itslexi_
      @itslexi_ 10 месяцев назад

      No its not. There are measures in place to make it safe for people who take more time to get on.

  • @urmo345
    @urmo345 8 месяцев назад

    Safety?
    what is "safety"?

  • @erichotz
    @erichotz 2 месяца назад

    Can elderly people use these? If you move slowly, you are not going to survive the trip.

  • @paulanderson7796
    @paulanderson7796 Месяц назад

    There are a number of safety overrides incorporated. Trip wires to stop the whole thing should a limb be outside of the compartment. They're still not ideal - completely useless for disabled people.

  • @ricarleite
    @ricarleite 5 месяцев назад

    Not very energy efficient, they never turn off

  • @internalinjectiontrulyhere770
    @internalinjectiontrulyhere770 10 месяцев назад +1

    Middle boss

  • @AlecFlackie
    @AlecFlackie Месяц назад

    Sorry but anyone who has an accident with these lifts shouldn't really be allowed out of their home for safety reasons.

  • @HaGoJaBee
    @HaGoJaBee 2 года назад +2

    Cool they are not spacious but seems very convenient

  • @azmagaref
    @azmagaref Год назад +1

    That's a waste of energy.

    • @allenjamesrooney
      @allenjamesrooney Год назад +1

      It's more efficient than an elevator unless the elevator generates electricity when the car descends.

  • @Visionery1
    @Visionery1 5 лет назад +14

    From an efficiency point of view these are far superior to conventional elevators: they're extremely slender and don't take up much space in the building; if you have a 20-storey building you can transport roughly 80 people simultaneously (40 up AND 40 down). Two 40-person elevators would take up a huge amount of space, and while the 40 are being offloaded the lobby would fill up. The Paternoster is as "dangerous" as an escalator, where one's stepping on and off also needs to be timed. Stupidity and the fear of law suits probably caused these to be discontinued.

    • @X--hu2gk
      @X--hu2gk 4 года назад +5

      What kind of elevator doesn't allow access for disabled people? You couldn't use this if you were in a wheelchair or even a cane because you would be too slow. This design is stupid for the modern world.

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Год назад +7

      @@X--hu2gk there should be a regular lift there too. Disabled people can't use stairs or (in some cases also) escalators, but they still exist and we (mostly) provide a lift there as well

    • @circleinforthecube5170
      @circleinforthecube5170 Год назад

      by idiots do you mean disabled people who could easily be trapped and killed in this contraption

    • @bradchristy8429
      @bradchristy8429 Год назад +4

      Escalators don’t cut people in half.

    • @Moonlit2020
      @Moonlit2020 11 месяцев назад +4

      "As dangerous as an escalator" escalators don't crush you if you take an extra second to get on or off

  • @theviking2877
    @theviking2877 3 года назад +1

    It only take one drunken dummy to ruin it for everyone. You need a door.

    • @Victor-tl4dk
      @Victor-tl4dk Год назад +1

      Well only if people think irrationally and don't recognize that it was just one drunk dummy by low chance.
      But, hey, that's what's popular these days.
      One shooting in a 300 mil. country leads to "ban guns"! When in reality the gun fatality rate is lower than the estimated COVID vaccine rate.
      And yes one wrong doesn't excuse another, and the COVID vaccine saves lives while guns are mostly pointless imo, but I still think banning guns is another wrong.
      If people can't think in proportion we'll eventually ban hot coffee b/c some joker was going quickly and spilt it on something!
      and it happens with everything, guns, drones, bikes, etc. etc. etc.

  • @user-ky9qn4pg3w
    @user-ky9qn4pg3w Год назад +1

    My only concern is they don't look very power efficient.

  • @askquestionsplz
    @askquestionsplz 3 года назад +10

    extremely dangerous and a bad idea

  • @Nobli82
    @Nobli82 9 месяцев назад

    Well, common sense and discipline are needed to use them, which people lack nowadays, that's why they are shut down for "safety concerns".

    • @notsureiL
      @notsureiL 4 месяца назад +1

      Yup, most accidents happen when people try to bring things with them in the lift. We humans are way to stupid nowadays for paternosters.

  • @matherman1111
    @matherman1111 2 месяца назад

    This elevator would make me lose my mind. Literally.

  • @hibuddywuzsup571
    @hibuddywuzsup571 Год назад +3

    00:48 Here is one reason why it's unsafe. A couple getting it with backpacks and the guy with his back to the opening barely missing the top lip.

    • @MiloslavBrada
      @MiloslavBrada Год назад +5

      Not dangerous at all. If he would hit the top barrier, there is a switch and the lift would immediately stop.

  • @ianmlclm7044
    @ianmlclm7044 10 месяцев назад

    It's not for people (or, God forbid, ill people)! It's for terminators!

  • @moose9906
    @moose9906 4 месяца назад +3

    Fricking death traps. The music should be the ride of the Valkyries....lol

  • @Snakelady-
    @Snakelady- Год назад

    That's a nope from me! 😱

  • @Tyler_Memo
    @Tyler_Memo 2 года назад +4

    That is so dangerous !

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Год назад +2

      Not really any different to an escalator - you can stop the limbs being wrenched off problem with sensors that will automatically stop the lift

    • @alexvergara1487
      @alexvergara1487 Год назад

      ​@@grassytramtracks
      But these things don't even have them so they are just stupid and annoying. Dangerous especially for children.

    • @MiloslavBrada
      @MiloslavBrada Год назад

      @@alexvergara1487 You are wrong, there ARE safety switches. I have seen them several times being activated, the lift stops immediately.

  • @cecilbroom5652
    @cecilbroom5652 9 лет назад +29

    Looks like a good system. Here in the USA, the lawyers would find all sorts of reasons to cause trouble.

    • @BradStandlee
      @BradStandlee 9 лет назад

      Can you imagine

    • @Sorel366
      @Sorel366 7 лет назад +14

      It's extremely unsafe. How many people were crushed i'd like to know.

    • @danwoodhouse9290
      @danwoodhouse9290 7 лет назад +2

      a paternoster is only unsafe if the public misuse it

    • @robert3302
      @robert3302 6 лет назад

      None. They have safety guards and switches. The whole thing stops if someone is stupid enough to stick a body part in the wrong place.

    • @uNcl55
      @uNcl55 6 лет назад

      zero

  • @1234jajadingdong
    @1234jajadingdong Год назад

    Someone was just crushed and killed by one of these this week in Berlin btw…

  • @theepicjack0543
    @theepicjack0543 Год назад

    I think I built one of these in Minecraft

  • @cxa24
    @cxa24 10 месяцев назад

    I hate WSJ

  • @Themain1ofall
    @Themain1ofall 9 лет назад +16

    Safety hazard, level DUMB

    • @MrOrthopedia
      @MrOrthopedia 6 лет назад +12

      No, Americans don't have the same common sense as Europeans.

    • @vince6473
      @vince6473 4 года назад +8

      ​@@MrOrthopedia if you trip over or fall unconscious due to an health issue you lose a leg or arm or you die. The old paternoster elevators are just very unsafe. Maybe some are updated to new safety standards with sensors and things.

    • @circleinforthecube5170
      @circleinforthecube5170 Год назад

      @@MrOrthopedia except modern american elevators are smarter and safer in almost every way and actually accommodate disabled people

    • @karjalatakaisin
      @karjalatakaisin Год назад

      @@circleinforthecube5170 Almost all lifts are modern in Europe too. These lifts are not built anymore and are only used in old government buildings and such places where most people don't have access anyway. But these lifts were the better solution back in the day where safety regulations were lighter.

  • @javedriaz6862
    @javedriaz6862 11 месяцев назад

    No thank you I don't fancy riding on paternosters even if I never been on them before. Its creepy to ride on doorless moving elevator/lifts

  • @javedriaz6862
    @javedriaz6862 11 месяцев назад

    I think they are extremely dangerous. Very likely to risk being decapitated if not careful

    • @itslexi_
      @itslexi_ 10 месяцев назад +1

      Paternosters still around WILL NOT decapitate you (they are not LIKELY to anyway, just like Modern Elevators they can make mistakes). They have sensors (Just like modren day elevators do) to tell if someone is only half way on or off the car and they will stop accordingly!

  • @avjake
    @avjake 8 месяцев назад

    What could possibly go wrong? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elevator_accidents