Hot damn!!! Neural dsp and plug-in alliance/brainworx got some real competition now! STL tones were always good but I never felt they were quite on the same level as those companies. This is most impressive!
I'm in awe of how much Glen's improved over the handful years I've been following this channel. And not just as a guitarist, his latest demos sound a lot better to me. Won't lie, I wasn't the biggest fan earlier but I'm slowly starting to convert. Guess it's never really too late to grow huh
the Gojira plugin is actually the most versatile one so far from Neural I thought it'll be like the usual Gojira tones but damn that one surprised me, mu favorite by far from Neural DSP
Albeit, I just listened to this video through my cell phone...I know I know... monitors.... but Its enough for the cause lol .. from what i also SAW, there seems to be good control of many aspects of the chain, which is cool. Secondly. The Marshall sim reminded me immediately (when you started playing), of Savatage's: Of Rage And War and that era of time. LOVE THAT...the full mix portion of the demo... including the solo as a lead tone, I have been searching for since Gutter Ballet hit the scene.... you may have just sold me on this Glenn. 🤘🎶. Love your channel....I check it out when I have the time... keep it up... love your honesty. Hi from Montreal 👋😁🇨🇦
STL is the shiz-nit in my book. I use STL-ToneHub, which is a PC version of a Kemper - Profiler Amp. And I also have Lasse Lammet's plugin for that. I do enjoy his amp sets, but mostly use the Mark Lewis pack for my metal guitars. Rhodes - Colossus for left guitar. and Diezel - (can't recall spacific model) for right guitar. In general, I love ToneHub. And as I said, STL is killing it in my opinion. I'm not sure if they are capable of making a bad product. As with all things through, your milage may vary...
Of all the shit I have over the years from Axe 3, Synergy rig, to plugins of all kinds, I'm no longer jaded after hearing this. It's all the same stuff I've heard and played on, but that Lasse touch is definitely what makes this sound stand out. Nice demo, thanks for helping me make the choice!
Really digging that last full demo with the "Marshall" AMP 3. Tones and playing were on point! That amp impressed me more than the hi-gain ones tbh. All of the tones sound great though.
I think people are getting that Neural idea cause Neural have a white plugin as well...but they also have several black ones, so... ;) Layout and GUI is strongly based on STL's Amphub, but I really wanted a white theme for a clean and classy look, kinda bored with all the black just because "it's metal", haha.
@@DouglasComical i dont justify im just saying how it seems from their perspective or what they thought when they ripped off that design but i cant deny it looks good tho
Glenn! Why don't you review the neural dsp archetype plugins? better yet, shoot them out against the stl and positive grid. will be really fun and informative.
on the topic of all these good guitar tones, more often than not I find a proper bass tone, tends to really be part of some of the greatest guitar tones on records. Anyone else notice this?
P90s are underrated actually for metal. They have really good attack and cut through the mix pretty well. Not crazy high gain but if you got a good amp it won’t matter too much 😂. I’ve done a few recordings with a Gibson with P90s. Really like them for leads. Depends on the song for rhythm tones though.
P 90's have a hotter output than you'd guess, with a decent resistance and a decent inductance. Some aftermarket P 90's are beastly through the right amp and cab!
Having met Lasse (and played in a band produced by him) I must say he's just as cool and friendly as he is obviously talented ;) Glad you like the product, Glenn! \m/
Two small notes: it's not "just" 40 IRs in there, it's 9600! Yes, nine f*cking thousand six hundred. That's why it sounds so damn realistic when you move the mic. And you don't need an iLok! Works well with just an iLok account on your PC. PS: after seeing this I really feel like it would have been a lot cooler if Fredman studios just had collaborated with a big name like STL or maybe Neural.
Of course this had to come out right as i quit my job for mental health reasons. I'll have to remember this when i get my shit together because i STILL don't have a good sounding Diezel plugin. Also Thank FUCK it has Pre EQ. My biggest issue with the Neural DSP plugins is that none of the metal ones have a graphic EQ in the pre-amp section and they don't allow for moving the blocks to put different effects earlier or later in the chain.
Dude, been there so believe me: from here on the road leads upwards. There will be some dips and valley in between but that won't matter as long as you are moving forward.
For people who have pointed out the similarities between the UIs, it's because most modern plugin companies outsource their design work and coding. Hate to break it to you folks but every new amp sim, and trendy new plugin is usually just rehashed code from 10 years ago with a facelift. These people would be trying to sell you a timeshare if they weren't early purveyors of the Andy Sneap forum.
@@SpectreSoundStudios Of course.. but some originality is nice too. When companies rip off others UI, all I see is "budget version of .....insert brand..." I mean, how would you feel if I designed a logo called "My" Sound Group - with a MSG logo and an ak47 off the G in red. I'd just be "budget" SMG right? lol ... anyways yes, the sound is what it comes down to at the end of the day, but blatant rips scream cutting corners to me.
Shoot out this Diezel vs Plugin Alliance? PA's licensed version can frequently be had for $30-50 with discounts and is included in many of their subscriptions.
I really love the Brainworx plugins for mixing, especially their channelstrip, can't say anything bad about PA. But the physical Diezel amps have some very unique "squishiness" in the low end that no plugin I've tried so far managed to capture. It was very important to me to actually capture that "greasy bloom" and that unique compressed feel and REALLY have the plugin version of the amps sound and feel like the physical amp (if you ever played a Diezel you'll know what I mean about that squishiness...I think that's what Glenn refers to as "fattens up"). The mids on the PA version are pretty close to the original though and it's an overall great sounding plugin for sure. I didnt want this to just sound great though, I wanted it to sound like an actual hardware Herbert with all the detail (and obviously have a much more versatile and accurate cab/mic section to go with that). BUT: free trials on both this and the PA version, so I'd definitely recommend trying it out for yourself, and I'd love to hear back from you with your opinion. thanks for commenting! L
Glenn, you gotta do a compare video between a neural dsp amp sim and an stl, like the one here. I've tried lots of amp sims, guitar software etc, Neural DSP plugs are on the iron throne ya fuckers !!! Only my opinion, of course...
Glenn, can you explain the fanned fret thing? Being a part-time bass player, I can't comprehend how it can tune if it's crooked. I'm gonna put this to a few guitar-tubers, and the first one who explains it well is my hero.
It's not twisted. Think if it like how a harp has long strings and they get shorter as the pitches get higher. It's not only the frets that are fanned, but the bridge and nut too, so as to give the strings lengths closer to what's optimal for their pitch. You get better tension on the low strings this way, too In addition, depending on the person and the guitar, the angles of the frets can feel a bit more ergonomic
Nicholas nailed it. It just gives a longer scale length on the lower strings than the high ones, which allows you to use the correct (I use that term loosely since some people prefer their strings to be flopping around like wet spaghetti) string gauge. I don't like fan frets as bending strings feels absolutely horrible to me. That's just a personal preference after 24 years of playing normal/scalloped frets. It also doesn't make the guitar play in tune better. The frets that give perfect intonation are called true temperament. I don't like those either for the same reason as the fan frets. Bending issues that take a lot to get used to. I have an applehorn 8 with them, and have a very love/hate relationship with that guitar. I hate that I can't bend all willy nilly, but I love that it forced me to seriously up my whammy game. TL;DR - I don't like change lol
Alestorm! Killer band! Killer tones too. And this video comes out on my 66th birthday! In the 6th month. On the 18th which is also three 6's.Numbers, anybody? Beastly numbers?
Back in the days Mr. LL was all over his Überschall-Tone. I wonder why it didn't make the cut. But then again, he could probably make a Line6 Spider sound tolerable, soo there's that. Btw, any Überschall Amp models out there?
Glenn, I know this video is to old and you probably won’t see this comment but if you do, can you please help me. I’m currently recording a demo for the new Laney iron heart plugin but I can’t find a way to make real time changes in the plugin and have those commit to the track I’m continuously recording (just like you are in this video). Please help!
Glen, What are your thoughts on the Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 18. Mainly for High end tones? I like the high mid brit sound of a marshall so would It sound similar? Thanks
As someone who owns Bias Amp as well as STL Tonehub: STL is a completely different level. ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport. Bias is one of the few plugins I just never use anymore.
@@LasseLammert im really really looking forward to trying these out, thank you for being consumer-minded and giving us what we all crave...... TONE >:0
While this sounds great indeed I have been getting this feeling that most (if not all) of the paid amp sims does not necessarily sound like a hundred bucks better than their freebie counterparts like the Emmisary or the LeGion or even the X50 or whatever the fuck is called that emulation of a 6505+/5150, that being said it is crucial to have a half decen IR to pair with because unlike wood that actually impacts the way it's gonna sound. Perhaps a community repo for self-made IRs or decent freebies would be a great idea as well. Anyways, anyone else getting this feeling with paid ampsims?
I think you're right. If you want a great tone, but NOT a very specific great tone from an album or whatever, I think you can get by with the Emissary and a good IR. Even if you don't spend a lot of time tweaking it; you can get 70-80% of an excellent tone in minutes with the Emissary. At that point, your playing matters much more than incremental tone improvements.
100% agree. Even the Nalex stuff gets you close enough with a IR. Plus, we all know the tone will just get changed anyway when it comes time to mix/master.
@@xiyx9748 Yup but your results may vary since in the digital realm you have more control from the very input so who knows what coverter is taking your DI in and how you treat those initial dynamics before and after hitting the amp, in my experience I have found them to be ever so slightly different, but hey there's always LeGion when I don't feel like putting a mic in front of my Friedman BE-100.
It is certainly true, however, that these sims are convenient. With the real thing you have to work a LOT harder, using microphones etc. But the caveat is that the result seems to be directly proportional to that effort. But that the sims sound close to the real amps, or even good enough? I cannot agree about that at all, to me they "sim" just a very sophisticated version of the Zoom I was using many years ago. Thanks for your video, though! 🤘
If it helps... Sound travels, on average, about 1000 feet per second. This means it travels 1 foot in 1 ms. So if you stand 10 feet from your guitar cab, you're hearing 10ms of latency. What is the latency you're getting through your system? (Your DAW should be able to tell you.)
@@soundman1402 Footnote: it turns out I should trust my ears. I was actually getting quite a bit of noticeable latency, but it was coming from Loopback (Rogue Amoeba), not from amp sims. I'm using Loopback for Zoom guitar lessons (student not teacher), and I get this really annoying delay on my mic fed back at me as I'm trying to think and speak. That latency isn't there input monitoring in my DAW.
Honestly.....a real amp is always gonna be unbeatable and I encourage you all to get one, been through Bias, Fortin, etc never really came anywhere close to a real amp like a Randall 1503.
Sorry Glenn but those guitars you are playing are sounding a bit harsh man. Don t put them on the show again I turn down the amp sim after I watched your video and now I am buying it after I watched stay metal ray demonstrating it. I am sorry but it doesn't seem good that I appreciate a random guitarist 's tone more than a professional
Your guitar playing is pretty spectacular now Glenn! Quite a big difference from a couple years ago and I am all for it!
Lasse is a great dude, and an underappreciated GIANT in the field of guitar tones, re-amping, and mixing. This is awesome to see.
Hot damn!!! Neural dsp and plug-in alliance/brainworx got some real competition now! STL tones were always good but I never felt they were quite on the same level as those companies. This is most impressive!
I'm in awe of how much Glen's improved over the handful years I've been following this channel. And not just as a guitarist, his latest demos sound a lot better to me. Won't lie, I wasn't the biggest fan earlier but I'm slowly starting to convert. Guess it's never really too late to grow huh
I know this is a guitar video but man, loving them bass tones you get Glenn. Ps the picture quality of your shows the past couple of months is fab.
Love the STL stuff. Its kemper quality, but software! Can't beat that.
Just bought Archetype Gojira, so I should probably hold off on this. Sounds awesome, though. Will keep it in mind.
The Gojira plugin is beautiful. Definitely worth it!!!
the Gojira plugin is actually the most versatile one so far from Neural
I thought it'll be like the usual Gojira tones but damn that one surprised me, mu favorite by far from Neural DSP
It is really good. Definitely can't complain.
The Gojira is my favorite amp sim yet!
Anyone put them aside each other yet? I love my Neural DSP Gojira, but G.A.S. kicks in… so, I was wondering! 😂
Albeit, I just listened to this video through my cell phone...I know I know... monitors.... but Its enough for the cause lol .. from what i also SAW, there seems to be good control of many aspects of the chain, which is cool.
Secondly. The Marshall sim reminded me immediately (when you started playing), of Savatage's: Of Rage And War and that era of time. LOVE THAT...the full mix portion of the demo... including the solo as a lead tone, I have been searching for since Gutter Ballet hit the scene.... you may have just sold me on this Glenn. 🤘🎶.
Love your channel....I check it out when I have the time... keep it up... love your honesty.
Hi from Montreal 👋😁🇨🇦
The marshall peaked my interest
Looks/sounds cool, definitely most interested in trying that Purple Nightmare, don't think I've seen that in an amp sim before!🔥
Gloryhammer tones? Alestorm tones? YES. YES. YES.
are you the warthunder guy?? Fancy seeing you here
@@arnavsethi9720 Four months later: Yes. I did buy this for my birthday... as in 6 days after this video as a early birthday gift. XD
Massive Lasse fan. Always happy to see him in the Alestorm vids :-D
@@LasseLammertdude,
Your riff in the Überschall vid is awesome, ever had a chance to make it a full track?
STL is the shiz-nit in my book.
I use STL-ToneHub, which is a PC version of a Kemper - Profiler Amp.
And I also have Lasse Lammet's plugin for that.
I do enjoy his amp sets, but mostly use the Mark Lewis pack for my metal guitars.
Rhodes - Colossus for left guitar. and Diezel - (can't recall spacific model) for right guitar.
In general, I love ToneHub.
And as I said, STL is killing it in my opinion.
I'm not sure if they are capable of making a bad product.
As with all things through, your milage may vary...
Of all the shit I have over the years from Axe 3, Synergy rig, to plugins of all kinds, I'm no longer jaded after hearing this. It's all the same stuff I've heard and played on, but that Lasse touch is definitely what makes this sound stand out. Nice demo, thanks for helping me make the choice!
Great vid Glenn!!
"Is that Fricker on the drums". It's my new favorite quote, every time I see or here drums.
Boy, that's a real reasonable price, too. Great tip man, thanks a million.
so honest no bullshit not tryna sell anything just gives you pretty good idea what to look out for..learning alot keep up the great work..
multiscale guitar edition today, Cool Lasse’s product! …and awesome video as always
It's good to see you hitting the guitar like a beast now and showing it who's boss!
Just got my STL email about this exact sim
Almost like this was planned 🤔🤔
It’s weird how that happens. :)
@@SpectreSoundStudios I'm onto you, Future Glenn
The first 3 new videos on my subscriptions are all on this. They carpet bombed the youtubers with it, smart promotion strategy
You had me at Alestorm and Gloryhammer
Really digging that last full demo with the "Marshall" AMP 3. Tones and playing were on point! That amp impressed me more than the hi-gain ones tbh. All of the tones sound great though.
The interface of the plugin looks very similar to the Neural DSP stuff. Thats great because it's very clean and nice to work with
I think people are getting that Neural idea cause Neural have a white plugin as well...but they also have several black ones, so... ;)
Layout and GUI is strongly based on STL's Amphub, but I really wanted a white theme for a clean and classy look, kinda bored with all the black just because "it's metal", haha.
Liverkick is an airis effects pedal. Clone of the tc electronic booster thing that Meshuggah used
STL stuff is fantastic across the board.
Man that drum mix on that marshall mix is just huge !!!
I love this guy. He really has a desire to share his vast knowledge
Sounds great!!!
That’s the most even, galvanized and musical hard tone I’ve heard in a long time. It’s like the 5 Gum of distortion.
Is this how all the STL amp sims look? Looks almost exactly like a Neural UI. Who did it first?
they used to look different
Why not to steal what works well and looks good, business is business
@@mixail201211 because… it’s stealing… I can understand taking some inspiration, but damn at least try doing SOME innovation
@@DouglasComical i dont justify im just saying how it seems from their perspective or what they thought when they ripped off that design but i cant deny it looks good tho
Dude i miss the old STL UI
Man your guitar playing has really improved lately!
I need these plug-in companies to relax, I got bills to pay!
Killer tones, even the brighter ones in the right mix should ramp a production up some.
Glenn! Why don't you review the neural dsp archetype plugins? better yet, shoot them out against the stl and positive grid. will be really fun and informative.
HOLY CRAP THAT MUSIC FOR THE MEAN MACHINE DEMO!!!!!!!!!!! Wow um, Glen RELEASE THAT SINGLE! XD
Did STL grab a Neural DSP plug in and steal the entire layout? I love both companies but I’m surprised they did that.
Amazingly cool stuff.🤘
on the topic of all these good guitar tones, more often than not I find a proper bass tone, tends to really be part of some of the greatest guitar tones on records. Anyone else notice this?
Wow, that tonewood sure makes a difference!..................................
its a great time to be a recording musician. we are spoiled ROTTEN!
You should have been a cheeky bastard and used the Lasse+Mago DI for these
2:36 guy plays metal on p90 and it sounds great
P90s are underrated actually for metal. They have really good attack and cut through the mix pretty well. Not crazy high gain but if you got a good amp it won’t matter too much 😂. I’ve done a few recordings with a Gibson with P90s. Really like them for leads. Depends on the song for rhythm tones though.
I once played a guitar loaded with P-90's with an amp sim. Best tone I've played.
P 90's have a hotter output than you'd guess, with a decent resistance and a decent inductance. Some aftermarket P 90's are beastly through the right amp and cab!
gibson p90s sound more aggressive than my ibanez 7 string! If i just use a drop pedal to get those lows in, the p90s and this amp sim sounds amazing.
I so wish he would have added his Überschall, it is such a beast.
I agree 😂
Having met Lasse (and played in a band produced by him) I must say he's just as cool and friendly as he is obviously talented ;) Glad you like the product, Glenn! \m/
Two small notes: it's not "just" 40 IRs in there, it's 9600! Yes, nine f*cking thousand six hundred. That's why it sounds so damn realistic when you move the mic.
And you don't need an iLok! Works well with just an iLok account on your PC.
PS: after seeing this I really feel like it would have been a lot cooler if Fredman studios just had collaborated with a big name like STL or maybe Neural.
I have the Diezel Plugin from Plug-in Alliance .. it’s licensed from the Diezel Company! It’s sounds awesome. 49 bucks
Of course this had to come out right as i quit my job for mental health reasons. I'll have to remember this when i get my shit together because i STILL don't have a good sounding Diezel plugin.
Also Thank FUCK it has Pre EQ. My biggest issue with the Neural DSP plugins is that none of the metal ones have a graphic EQ in the pre-amp section and they don't allow for moving the blocks to put different effects earlier or later in the chain.
Dude, been there so believe me: from here on the road leads upwards. There will be some dips and valley in between but that won't matter as long as you are moving forward.
For people who have pointed out the similarities between the UIs, it's because most modern plugin companies outsource their design work and coding. Hate to break it to you folks but every new amp sim, and trendy new plugin is usually just rehashed code from 10 years ago with a facelift. These people would be trying to sell you a timeshare if they weren't early purveyors of the Andy Sneap forum.
Damn Glenn! You really have been practicing. Or is it the magick of a fanned fretboard? 😁
"This is his Gloryhammer setup"
You had my curiosity, now you have my attention.
Going great! Peddle your goods!
Going to have to check this out. Sounds chunky 🤘🤘🤘
Real good stuff here. What's your feels on dropping that 7 string down a little? Drop G perhaps? Just to hear the versatility of the sim.
I own Lasse’s Kemper profiles (they sound AMAZING). I’d be very curious to see an A/B done of the two. This sounds HUGE though!
Best hair muting technique ever!
normally your guitar tone sucks but this is one of your best guitar tone. there's only 2 of your videos where i really like your guitar tone
Glenn is holding a cool guitar.. gotta watch!
sounds pretty good!
Was the guitarist tracking through the plug-in, or playing with a real amp, and you re-amped through the plug with a DI track? Just curious.
That Diezel is very nice with some tweaking. The rest I can take or leave.
He can make a straight up dry Marshall JCM800 sound like a fucking Saturn V liftoff!
The UI layout is wayyy similar to neural dsp. Tone sounds pretty sick though.
Isn’t that what’s most important?
@@SpectreSoundStudios Of course.. but some originality is nice too. When companies rip off others UI, all I see is "budget version of .....insert brand..." I mean, how would you feel if I designed a logo called "My" Sound Group - with a MSG logo and an ak47 off the G in red. I'd just be "budget" SMG right? lol ... anyways yes, the sound is what it comes down to at the end of the day, but blatant rips scream cutting corners to me.
GLORY! HAMMER!
Shoot out this Diezel vs Plugin Alliance? PA's licensed version can frequently be had for $30-50 with discounts and is included in many of their subscriptions.
I really love the Brainworx plugins for mixing, especially their channelstrip, can't say anything bad about PA.
But the physical Diezel amps have some very unique "squishiness" in the low end that no plugin I've tried so far managed to capture. It was very important to me to actually capture that "greasy bloom" and that unique compressed feel and REALLY have the plugin version of the amps sound and feel like the physical amp (if you ever played a Diezel you'll know what I mean about that squishiness...I think that's what Glenn refers to as "fattens up").
The mids on the PA version are pretty close to the original though and it's an overall great sounding plugin for sure. I didnt want this to just sound great though, I wanted it to sound like an actual hardware Herbert with all the detail (and obviously have a much more versatile and accurate cab/mic section to go with that).
BUT: free trials on both this and the PA version, so I'd definitely recommend trying it out for yourself, and I'd love to hear back from you with your opinion.
thanks for commenting!
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Sick tones fuck yeah
Glenn, you gotta do a compare video between a neural dsp amp sim and an stl, like the one here. I've tried lots of amp sims, guitar software etc, Neural DSP plugs are on the iron throne ya fuckers !!! Only my opinion, of course...
Fucking hell, this sounds better than my mesa triple 😂
People can give glen’s guitar playing shit, but his right hand technique is killer
Glenn, can you explain the fanned fret thing? Being a part-time bass player, I can't comprehend how it can tune if it's crooked. I'm gonna put this to a few guitar-tubers, and the first one who explains it well is my hero.
It's not twisted. Think if it like how a harp has long strings and they get shorter as the pitches get higher. It's not only the frets that are fanned, but the bridge and nut too, so as to give the strings lengths closer to what's optimal for their pitch. You get better tension on the low strings this way, too
In addition, depending on the person and the guitar, the angles of the frets can feel a bit more ergonomic
Nicholas nailed it. It just gives a longer scale length on the lower strings than the high ones, which allows you to use the correct (I use that term loosely since some people prefer their strings to be flopping around like wet spaghetti) string gauge. I don't like fan frets as bending strings feels absolutely horrible to me. That's just a personal preference after 24 years of playing normal/scalloped frets.
It also doesn't make the guitar play in tune better. The frets that give perfect intonation are called true temperament. I don't like those either for the same reason as the fan frets. Bending issues that take a lot to get used to. I have an applehorn 8 with them, and have a very love/hate relationship with that guitar. I hate that I can't bend all willy nilly, but I love that it forced me to seriously up my whammy game.
TL;DR - I don't like change lol
Just how many bass and guitar playing twins are there in the greater Windsor ON metropolitan area!? 🤨
So is Lasse
What about king of free amp sims?
I can do that episode!
Try Ignite Amps' Emissary! Not sure if it's the best, but it's absolutely great!
@@mrcoatsworth429 I found that Amped Roots Free sounds better to my ears. Thinking that there might be something newer and better.
Glenn, you got your chops up! If a sound engineer can do it, why can't the bass players do it as well???
Alestorm! Killer band! Killer tones too. And this video comes out on my 66th birthday! In the 6th month. On the 18th which is also three 6's.Numbers, anybody? Beastly numbers?
Back in the days Mr. LL was all over his Überschall-Tone. I wonder why it didn't make the cut. But then again, he could probably make a Line6 Spider sound tolerable, soo there's that.
Btw, any Überschall Amp models out there?
ML Sound Lab has an Überschall
Glenn, I know this video is to old and you probably won’t see this comment but if you do, can you please help me. I’m currently recording a demo for the new Laney iron heart plugin but I can’t find a way to make real time changes in the plugin and have those commit to the track I’m continuously recording (just like you are in this video). Please help!
Somebody's been practicing on guitar
Glenn wtf ive said it once ill say it again. You got damn good at that guitar.
Glen, What are your thoughts on the Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 18. Mainly for High end tones? I like the high mid brit sound of a marshall so would It sound similar?
Thanks
High end tones? What?
When/why did you switch to a mac?
Wouldn't that Dynamic EQ you also reviewed today excel at removing the fizz/buzz from heavy guitar tracks?
there's a knob called "smooth" in the post section in this plugin that does just that.
@@LasseLammert Awesome.
Love STL stuff by the way. ToneHub is my go-to for recording heavy guitars.
I like everything but the Diezel. I don't really like the tones that come from those Diezel amps.
THICC!!!
What are your thoughts on Bias FX vs Stl tones vs neural dsp
Forget about about Bias AT ALL.
As someone who owns Bias Amp as well as STL Tonehub: STL is a completely different level. ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport.
Bias is one of the few plugins I just never use anymore.
Mythical tone wood comparison @ 7:52 and 8:03.
How can you not hear that???
Different pickups
@@SpectreSoundStudios Is the second swamp ass?
More Death Metal!!!
Free trials should be standard for amp sims or even plug ins. Works for dsp they make quality shit and I love the try before you buy
There’s a ten day free trial.
I wouldn’t want anyone to buy this without being really happy with the purchase.
@@LasseLammert im really really looking forward to trying these out, thank you for being consumer-minded and giving us what we all crave......
TONE >:0
killer
that's a very Neural DSP-esque GUI
Now that sounds like its worth 250 dollars
While this sounds great indeed I have been getting this feeling that most (if not all) of the paid amp sims does not necessarily sound like a hundred bucks better than their freebie counterparts like the Emmisary or the LeGion or even the X50 or whatever the fuck is called that emulation of a 6505+/5150, that being said it is crucial to have a half decen IR to pair with because unlike wood that actually impacts the way it's gonna sound. Perhaps a community repo for self-made IRs or decent freebies would be a great idea as well.
Anyways, anyone else getting this feeling with paid ampsims?
I think you're right. If you want a great tone, but NOT a very specific great tone from an album or whatever, I think you can get by with the Emissary and a good IR. Even if you don't spend a lot of time tweaking it; you can get 70-80% of an excellent tone in minutes with the Emissary. At that point, your playing matters much more than incremental tone improvements.
100% agree. Even the Nalex stuff gets you close enough with a IR. Plus, we all know the tone will just get changed anyway when it comes time to mix/master.
The free amp sims do not feel like actual amps when playing them. The feel/response is really important.
@@xiyx9748 Yup but your results may vary since in the digital realm you have more control from the very input so who knows what coverter is taking your DI in and how you treat those initial dynamics before and after hitting the amp, in my experience I have found them to be ever so slightly different, but hey there's always LeGion when I don't feel like putting a mic in front of my Friedman BE-100.
Sorry, had to turn this video off. Horns started coming out of my screen from the angry music.
It is certainly true, however, that these sims are convenient. With the real thing you have to work a LOT harder, using microphones etc. But the caveat is that the result seems to be directly proportional to that effort. But that the sims sound close to the real amps, or even good enough? I cannot agree about that at all, to me they "sim" just a very sophisticated version of the Zoom I was using many years ago. Thanks for your video, though! 🤘
DUDE whats up with the frets on that guitar...... They look crooked.
Fan fret
Love the pickups slanted like that. Perhaps it's an illusion... I can't really tell.
@@WIMPY86 Me neither. Ive never heard of that.
Yeah they're fanned. Designed so that lower strings have a longer scale length.
Come on Glenn, we all want to know who all the losers were on the tone challenge, we know nobody got it all correct, that was your point, lol
I'm a nube, so don't listen to me, but I'm not loving even the little bit of latency you get with an amp sim. Even with a small buffer.
If it helps... Sound travels, on average, about 1000 feet per second. This means it travels 1 foot in 1 ms. So if you stand 10 feet from your guitar cab, you're hearing 10ms of latency. What is the latency you're getting through your system? (Your DAW should be able to tell you.)
@@soundman1402 12ms according to the DAW... which makes what I originally said basically a figment of my imagination right? Thanks for that!
@@soundman1402 Footnote: it turns out I should trust my ears. I was actually getting quite a bit of noticeable latency, but it was coming from Loopback (Rogue Amoeba), not from amp sims. I'm using Loopback for Zoom guitar lessons (student not teacher), and I get this really annoying delay on my mic fed back at me as I'm trying to think and speak. That latency isn't there input monitoring in my DAW.
The bass drum in your full mix sounds FAT!
Honestly.....a real amp is always gonna be unbeatable and I encourage you all to get one, been through Bias, Fortin, etc never really came anywhere close to a real amp like a Randall 1503.
Sorry Glenn but those guitars you are playing are sounding a bit harsh man. Don t put them on the show again I turn down the amp sim after I watched your video and now I am buying it after I watched stay metal ray demonstrating it. I am sorry but it doesn't seem good that I appreciate a random guitarist 's tone more than a professional
Wow. They literally completely ripped off Neural DSP's UI.
I suppose it's possible the UI belongs to a software company that may have written both UIs?
@@soundman1402 Could be, but Neural is big enough not to have to resort to external companies to design their ui i think.