- I forgot to mention that the Auto Power OFF Temp setting on my camera is set to: High, and the WiFi and Bluetooth are Off. Thanks for watching! -Ulanzi Cooling Fan Review!: ruclips.net/video/t0LneM-a1DA/видео.htmlsi=BvCTTOCC2f35Hxfl - Here is Part 2 with updated firmware: ruclips.net/video/OhrZEVKBlnc/видео.htmlsi=vFhCW_E6emIw0LuH
Hi, one reviewer did the overheating test with the original 1.0firmware, then updated it and re-ran the overheating test. I would love to see you do the same (by in your next video run the same tests on the 1.1 firmware update. 2. For me, 4 k is incredibly overrated---the drain on storage and the hassle in the work flow is just horrible. People do NOT talk enough about routinely using 4k for video compared to 1080p. So, I would love SOMEONE to try an overheating test on 1080p after the firmware update. Thanks!!!
Hi, i am working on an update video with new firmware also. I hope to include some timed tests results for 1080p as well, with the 4k results. So many video ideas! So little time! But I'm on it for sure!!! Thanks for watching!
@@anthonyj_film_photo I've read somewhere that the 1080p in Sony cameras is really bad compared to Fujifilm. Can you check if that's true? I'm hoping it's better now since Sony is using a new sensor in this camera.
Hi, yes, I agree that is important. My original plan was that if these tests did not result in overheating in an air conditioned environment, then I would go and run the tests outdoors as well. But the tests overheated indoors, so I found it reasonable to assume it will overheat outdoors as well. Unless the weather is really cold maybe, but I don't have a way to test that. (I wish I did 😅) However these results are just from my particular camera. I've heard some others get the same results and some get different results. Thanks for watching.
I have 6300 and overheating is terrible. I film solely outdoors and need the 6700 to last at least 2 hours of nonstop recording at 4k/60 outside in the sun. Until it can do that, I won't upgrade. Yes, I could go dedicated FX30, but it is missing much of what the 6700 can do. Thanks.. I have subscribed.
I can understand that for sure. My particular camera in my experience can't come close in 4k60 for that amount of time. Thanks for watching, and thanks for subscribing. I appreciate it. Have a great day!
By the way, small semiconductor fans are available for when you run video. I would love to see the timing tests with a temp attached external fan (one is by Ulanzi).
I did see that Ulanzi one coming out! Very interesting and looks to be reasonably priced. I'm thinking I may give it a try. I wonder about noise for on camera mics... I dont think i need a device like that, but I would like to get the info to you all. It may certainly help some situations.
Thank you for the information . Im planning on buying a Sony a6400. I need it only as a Webcam , on my zoom conferences , I dont need to record the livestream . And those are pretty long , 6-7-8 hours long . Do you think it will hold on?
Hi. Thanks for watching. I have not used it as a webcam. I honestly can't speak on that topic for the camera because i dont have experience with that. I mostly used the a6400 for photos. I have recorded 4k30 with the a6400 indoors for around 30-40 minutes with no overheating sign. Battery would run out before any issue. Thanks.
I permanently switched from 24p to 30p years ago due to better panning performance. It's still filmic, but not sandbaged by historical logic (24 was about the slowest cheapest for stock waste 😊 that wouldn't bother the eye).
😄 I like shooting 30p most cases. I use 24p intentionally depending on what im shooting, but usually my default is 30p also. Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Have a great day!
First I really want to thank you for showing all of the setting your camera had while testing, most people never reveal what they has the a6700 set to when it overheated. I can run XAVC s 4k 30p 4.2.2 10 bit for over 2 hours. I however was not using SLOG-3 with a luts like you did the first time. I wonder if SLOG causes more strain. I am also on the new firmware so I don't know if that makes the a6700 more stable. Also I am getting better battery life that you are I started at 61% and filmed over an hour. I was just wondering if you are using old Batteries. Oh I am also in airplane mode, no Wifi or Bluetooth because these are battery killers.
Hi. Thanks for watching and for your comment. So yeah, I figure besides 4k combined with higher frame rates, we are mostly uncertain about the exact other settings that contribute the most to overheat. So, I wanted to be sure I show my settings for my overheats that may provide info to others who shoot similarly. Thanks for sharing your experiences and settings above! I am currently working on a follow-up video with updated firmware and other settings. I will run a test today with my camera without slog 3. Also, the batteries are a combination of Sony batteries, Smallrig, and Neewer batteries. They are all less than 2 months old. I will check other settings. I'm sure my wifi is off, but bluetooth may be on. Thanks! Hope you can subscribe if you haven't already. And thanks for the info.
Hello, good video, I am a beginner in food and product photography, I take photos and short videos, but I am already taking photos and videos of 1:30 hours. My concern is overheating, would it still be advisable to buy it? Setting 4k:60, Slog3, 10-bit 4:2.2 short videos 4k:120, Slog3, 10 bit 4:2.2
You should try recording on a proper tripod that elevates the camera further from the table. I tested this and it made A HUGE difference!! In 24fps 4K the camera stopped recording at 1h20m in a 85°F environment with the small tripod whilst in the proper tripod it went all the way to 2h without even the warm sign.
Hi. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Hmmm. I wonder if the inconsistencies in overheat times, especially in a lesser heat producing 4k format like 24fps, make some things appear as fixes or improvements. That is interesting. I use 2 other regular tripods with similar overheat times as the ones shown. This short tripod was just so I can put the timer next to it easily. I would really struggle to say this would be a difference maker when there is wide open space around it and plenty space below for airflow. Did you happen to try this with 30fps or 60fps a few times? Thanks.
@@anthonyj_film_photo in my testing the table under the small tripod was noticeably warmer... That is why attributed it to the tripod: if there isn't air circulating then the distance to a surface can have a significant impact. I am putting together a test with all of the recording formats and I noticed this effect because originally I recorded 24fps 4k without issues and, when I switched to the small tripod in order to have a digital thermometer / clock in frame, in the same room and conditions, the camera overheated. Back on the normal tripop and no issues at 24fps no mater what configurations I used.
Hi. I'm running that test for you now. It'll be in the update (part 2 video) soon. It should be complete in the next few days. This is the last test I have to run. Thanks. Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Have a great day!
Hi. Outdoors is tough due to the vastly different conditions, weather temperatures, etc across the world. I tried to show a more universal environment that many people can relate to. It also seems that many of these cameras are behaving very differently between users. Some say they aren't getting any overheating. I would say go with the thought that if it overheats in the a/c indoors, it will likely overheat outdoors. I just updated the firmware and will make an updated video with test results. Thanks for watching.
@jaymills1720 I think I'll have an eye on that one in the future at some point. Can't wait to see how it performs. Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Thanks!
@rsat9526 I will be updating soon, but I'm hearing some people say it helps, and some people say it doesn't. I'm curious if inconsistent overheat times on the same cameras are mistakenly appearing as fixes? That's great if it does help though! Hopefully it does, that would make a lot people happy!
I don't believe that is the reason for overheating. While the cards can produce some heat doing their job, they do that in every camera. V60 and V90 are for faster speeds, and i believe necessary for certain higher 4k formats, but not all 4k formats.
@@anthonyj_film_photo I called Sony about this overheating about my concern,, they just only suggest me change the ssd to solve this problem,, i don’t know why they suggest me,, I am so disappointed about my camera,, it was my dream to buy this camera, but after buying 😶
The little ZV-E10 can record 4K30 for longer than a battery will last. It really doesn't make sense that a camera this much newer can't even record 4K30 continuously.
@@anthonyj_film_photo I record soccer games. 40-45 minute halves. In the early fall I got some overheat warnings and on a 90F+ day I did get shut down about 40 minutes in once. I kept the camera shaded (I was the shade) for the second half and made it through. I don't even always turn the camera off between halves but I do always stop recording. Always with usb-c hooked up to keep it charged because the battery doesn't last for a whole game. 4K30 100 mbit. I do have it in a L-grip partial cage so that might help with heat dissipation some. I've got it going now with a 256GB card. I'm thinking it's going to fill the card before it shuts off.
Wow, thats really good recording times. I really like my little zve-10. Great camera and value. I dont get as long of recording times as yours though. A while back, i shot a video with 3 of my cameras running at the same time to test out a different video style with different angles. The zve-10, a6400, and fx30. 4k30 100m. The fx30 and a6400 handled the time of about 40 minutes with no problem. My zve-10 overheated around 20 minutes. Again, great little camera, but i know its limitations for my individual camera.
@@anthonyj_film_photo It's been going for 40 minutes now. I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes. I still think it's going to be a while. The lens is just starting to feel slightly warm on top of the sensor. I've never really let it go just to see how long it would go before.
Hi, yes it was. Great question. I can't believe i forgot to mention that. Thanks. I am going to pin that piece of info to the comments and put it in the description.
Man I wanted to buy this camera for shooting football highlights but not a chance with that overheating in 4K60. I miss all the options on Sony glass but I’ve been able to shoot my R6 II in Texas summer heat in 4k60 for an entire football game and nearly on one battery.
Hi, yeah i hear that. I agree, this wouldn't be a great option for that. Maybe the FX30 or FX3 and still get to use the Sony glass. It sounds like the R6II is doing the job well. Thanks for watching.
@anthonyj_film_photo also keep in mind the added bandwidth and 10bit. That's going to tax any camera. I knew going into it not to expect more than half hour or so of recording but for my needs that's plenty. I usually just do product b roll and short clips of offroading.
- I forgot to mention that the Auto Power OFF Temp setting on my camera is set to: High, and the WiFi and Bluetooth are Off. Thanks for watching!
-Ulanzi Cooling Fan Review!: ruclips.net/video/t0LneM-a1DA/видео.htmlsi=BvCTTOCC2f35Hxfl
- Here is Part 2 with updated firmware: ruclips.net/video/OhrZEVKBlnc/видео.htmlsi=vFhCW_E6emIw0LuH
Hi, one reviewer did the overheating test with the original 1.0firmware, then updated it and re-ran the overheating test. I would love to see you do the same (by in your next video run the same tests on the 1.1 firmware update. 2. For me, 4 k is incredibly overrated---the drain on storage and the hassle in the work flow is just horrible. People do NOT talk enough about routinely using 4k for video compared to 1080p. So, I would love SOMEONE to try an overheating test on 1080p after the firmware update. Thanks!!!
Hi, i am working on an update video with new firmware also. I hope to include some timed tests results for 1080p as well, with the 4k results. So many video ideas! So little time! But I'm on it for sure!!! Thanks for watching!
@@anthonyj_film_photo I've read somewhere that the 1080p in Sony cameras is really bad compared to Fujifilm. Can you check if that's true? I'm hoping it's better now since Sony is using a new sensor in this camera.
Brilliant thanks, great, excellent test!
Thank you!
Outdoor test is what matters more. Thanks.
Hi, yes, I agree that is important. My original plan was that if these tests did not result in overheating in an air conditioned environment, then I would go and run the tests outdoors as well. But the tests overheated indoors, so I found it reasonable to assume it will overheat outdoors as well. Unless the weather is really cold maybe, but I don't have a way to test that. (I wish I did 😅) However these results are just from my particular camera. I've heard some others get the same results and some get different results. Thanks for watching.
@@anthonyj_film_photowould love to know if it’s possible to exhaust the whole battery outside at the 4k 24fps
I have 6300 and overheating is terrible.
I film solely outdoors and need the 6700 to last at least 2 hours of nonstop recording at 4k/60 outside in the sun.
Until it can do that, I won't upgrade. Yes, I could go dedicated FX30, but it is missing much of what the 6700 can do.
Thanks.. I have subscribed.
I can understand that for sure. My particular camera in my experience can't come close in 4k60 for that amount of time. Thanks for watching, and thanks for subscribing. I appreciate it. Have a great day!
By the way, small semiconductor fans are available for when you run video. I would love to see the timing tests with a temp attached external fan (one is by Ulanzi).
I did see that Ulanzi one coming out! Very interesting and looks to be reasonably priced. I'm thinking I may give it a try. I wonder about noise for on camera mics... I dont think i need a device like that, but I would like to get the info to you all. It may certainly help some situations.
@@anthonyj_film_photooh yeah I'd definitely watch a test of that lil' fan.
@@damienc7303 Great! I already have it ordered. Thanks.
@damienc7303 @pf773 I have the Ulanzi fan, and am running test on it now for a video soon. So far... looks promising. 👌
Thank you for the information . Im planning on buying a Sony a6400. I need it only as a Webcam , on my zoom conferences , I dont need to record the livestream . And those are pretty long , 6-7-8 hours long . Do you think it will hold on?
Hi. Thanks for watching. I have not used it as a webcam. I honestly can't speak on that topic for the camera because i dont have experience with that. I mostly used the a6400 for photos. I have recorded 4k30 with the a6400 indoors for around 30-40 minutes with no overheating sign. Battery would run out before any issue. Thanks.
Thanks for this informational video.
I keep seeing ads for a little fan built by Ulanzi. I wonder if/how that'd help...
I have it ordered. It should be shipping soon. Thanks! Hope you can subscribe if you haven't already.
thanks for the video!!!!
Thank you for watching and commenting!!!
I permanently switched from 24p to 30p years ago due to better panning performance. It's still filmic, but not sandbaged by historical logic (24 was about the slowest cheapest for stock waste 😊 that wouldn't bother the eye).
😄 I like shooting 30p most cases. I use 24p intentionally depending on what im shooting, but usually my default is 30p also. Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Have a great day!
Try using a decent codec (h265) at 30p... spoiler u cant, u need to go 60p and overheat
great video. i like this so much
Hi. Thanks so much. I'm glad you liked it. Hope you consider subscribing. Thanks, Have a great day!
Ok so what was the conclusion? XAVC HS or XAVC S? Also I was wondering is 420 10 bit offered some time advantage?
For my specific individual camera, I have not noticed any remarkable difference in overheating between 10bit, 8bit, HS, or S. Thanks
First I really want to thank you for showing all of the setting your camera had while testing, most people never reveal what they has the a6700 set to when it overheated. I can run XAVC s 4k 30p 4.2.2 10 bit for over 2 hours. I however was not using SLOG-3 with a luts like you did the first time. I wonder if SLOG causes more strain. I am also on the new firmware so I don't know if that makes the a6700 more stable. Also I am getting better battery life that you are I started at 61% and filmed over an hour. I was just wondering if you are using old Batteries. Oh I am also in airplane mode, no Wifi or Bluetooth because these are battery killers.
Hi. Thanks for watching and for your comment. So yeah, I figure besides 4k combined with higher frame rates, we are mostly uncertain about the exact other settings that contribute the most to overheat. So, I wanted to be sure I show my settings for my overheats that may provide info to others who shoot similarly. Thanks for sharing your experiences and settings above! I am currently working on a follow-up video with updated firmware and other settings. I will run a test today with my camera without slog 3. Also, the batteries are a combination of Sony batteries, Smallrig, and Neewer batteries. They are all less than 2 months old. I will check other settings. I'm sure my wifi is off, but bluetooth may be on. Thanks! Hope you can subscribe if you haven't already. And thanks for the info.
Hello, good video, I am a beginner in food and product photography, I take photos and short videos, but I am already taking photos and videos of 1:30 hours.
My concern is overheating, would it still be advisable to buy it?
Setting
4k:60, Slog3, 10-bit 4:2.2
short videos 4k:120, Slog3, 10 bit 4:2.2
Hi, thanks for the comment. Looks like the comment doubled. I went ahead and responded to it in the Part 2 video comment section. Thanks!
You should try recording on a proper tripod that elevates the camera further from the table. I tested this and it made A HUGE difference!! In 24fps 4K the camera stopped recording at 1h20m in a 85°F environment with the small tripod whilst in the proper tripod it went all the way to 2h without even the warm sign.
Hi. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Hmmm. I wonder if the inconsistencies in overheat times, especially in a lesser heat producing 4k format like 24fps, make some things appear as fixes or improvements. That is interesting. I use 2 other regular tripods with similar overheat times as the ones shown. This short tripod was just so I can put the timer next to it easily. I would really struggle to say this would be a difference maker when there is wide open space around it and plenty space below for airflow. Did you happen to try this with 30fps or 60fps a few times? Thanks.
@@anthonyj_film_photo in my testing the table under the small tripod was noticeably warmer... That is why attributed it to the tripod: if there isn't air circulating then the distance to a surface can have a significant impact. I am putting together a test with all of the recording formats and I noticed this effect because originally I recorded 24fps 4k without issues and, when I switched to the small tripod in order to have a digital thermometer / clock in frame, in the same room and conditions, the camera overheated. Back on the normal tripop and no issues at 24fps no mater what configurations I used.
Try to test with lower bitrates too... personally I am interested in XAVC HS 4k/60p 75M 4:2:0 10bit
Hi. I'm running that test for you now. It'll be in the update (part 2 video) soon. It should be complete in the next few days. This is the last test I have to run. Thanks. Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Have a great day!
@@anthonyj_film_photo thanks a lot!
@simoz78 no problem 👌
Curious about outdoors mostly
Hi. Outdoors is tough due to the vastly different conditions, weather temperatures, etc across the world.
I tried to show a more universal environment that many people can relate to. It also seems that many of these cameras are behaving very differently between users. Some say they aren't getting any overheating. I would say go with the thought that if it overheats in the a/c indoors, it will likely overheat outdoors. I just updated the firmware and will make an updated video with test results. Thanks for watching.
@@anthonyj_film_photo thanks I’m between this and a7cii for hybrid use.
@@jaymills1720 that camera looks interesting!
@@anthonyj_film_photo seems like a FF a6700 with better iso and thermals but $800 mote
@jaymills1720 I think I'll have an eye on that one in the future at some point. Can't wait to see how it performs. Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Thanks!
which firmware were you using?
Original. Version 1.0. I haven't updated it yet.
@@anthonyj_film_photo the new firmware helps a lot with this issue
@rsat9526 I will be updating soon, but I'm hearing some people say it helps, and some people say it doesn't. I'm curious if inconsistent overheat times on the same cameras are mistakenly appearing as fixes? That's great if it does help though! Hopefully it does, that would make a lot people happy!
I am shooting right now V30 SD card,, do i need to upgrade V60 or V90 to avoid some more overheating?
I don't believe that is the reason for overheating. While the cards can produce some heat doing their job, they do that in every camera. V60 and V90 are for faster speeds, and i believe necessary for certain higher 4k formats, but not all 4k formats.
@@anthonyj_film_photo I called Sony about this overheating about my concern,, they just only suggest me change the ssd to solve this problem,, i don’t know why they suggest me,,
I am so disappointed about my camera,, it was my dream to buy this camera, but after buying 😶
The little ZV-E10 can record 4K30 for longer than a battery will last. It really doesn't make sense that a camera this much newer can't even record 4K30 continuously.
Some people dont get any overheat with there a6700 or zve-10. Some do. My zve-10 overheats after 20 - 30 minutes.
@@anthonyj_film_photo I record soccer games. 40-45 minute halves. In the early fall I got some overheat warnings and on a 90F+ day I did get shut down about 40 minutes in once. I kept the camera shaded (I was the shade) for the second half and made it through. I don't even always turn the camera off between halves but I do always stop recording. Always with usb-c hooked up to keep it charged because the battery doesn't last for a whole game. 4K30 100 mbit. I do have it in a L-grip partial cage so that might help with heat dissipation some. I've got it going now with a 256GB card. I'm thinking it's going to fill the card before it shuts off.
Wow, thats really good recording times. I really like my little zve-10. Great camera and value. I dont get as long of recording times as yours though. A while back, i shot a video with 3 of my cameras running at the same time to test out a different video style with different angles. The zve-10, a6400, and fx30. 4k30 100m. The fx30 and a6400 handled the time of about 40 minutes with no problem. My zve-10 overheated around 20 minutes. Again, great little camera, but i know its limitations for my individual camera.
@@anthonyj_film_photo It's been going for 40 minutes now. I'll try to remember to let you know how it goes. I still think it's going to be a while. The lens is just starting to feel slightly warm on top of the sensor. I've never really let it go just to see how long it would go before.
Ok, sounds good. Thanks.
Was the camera temperature threshold set to High?
Hi, yes it was. Great question. I can't believe i forgot to mention that. Thanks. I am going to pin that piece of info to the comments and put it in the description.
Man I wanted to buy this camera for shooting football highlights but not a chance with that overheating in 4K60. I miss all the options on Sony glass but I’ve been able to shoot my R6 II in Texas summer heat in 4k60 for an entire football game and nearly on one battery.
Hi, yeah i hear that. I agree, this wouldn't be a great option for that. Maybe the FX30 or FX3 and still get to use the Sony glass. It sounds like the R6II is doing the job well. Thanks for watching.
when is the second part?
I will be editing tomorrow, and hope to have it finished by tomorrow night. Thanks. Hope you subscribe if you haven't already. Have a good evening.
Forget it I can’t risk a over heating issue
I can certainly understand that. If you don't mind me asking, what are you primarily shooting?
Update the firmware.
Hi, I just updated it. Im going to run some new tests and share the results in a (Part 2) coming video. Thanks.
@anthonyj_film_photo also keep in mind the added bandwidth and 10bit. That's going to tax any camera. I knew going into it not to expect more than half hour or so of recording but for my needs that's plenty. I usually just do product b roll and short clips of offroading.
Agreed. For my personal use, I'm more than happy with it's performance. It does exactly what I bought it for.
whispering
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@@anthonyj_film_photo stop whispering and speak louder, so clearer?
@@mex5341🤔