Overclocking S19J Pro Bitcoin ASIC Miner on Immersion Cooling + power measurements!
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2022
- How much extra power does it take to overclock an S19J Pro?
How many amps and watts does it use to overclock your ASIC miner..
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I took the asic.to overclocking firmware to the limit with my S19 J Pro 104TH to find out.
Ive been testing different immersion cooling setups for my bitcoin miners for months now, and Ive finally landed on a test kit.
I was able to get this machine running stable at 130TH with no hardware errors and no rejected shares and temps in the low 70° C using bitcool from engineeredfluids.com.
IF YOURE LOOKING FOR A SAFE PLACE TO BUY ASIC MINERS, LOOK NO FURTHER THAN Muskminers.com - they are my official US based hardware supplier.. Please tell them you heard of them from me.
LINKS:
My instagram: @nicholas_james_johnson
My Discord Channel: / discord
1/2" FNPT Ports: amzn.to/3tHtFUd
Radiator: amzn.to/3Imp0ew
Fan Spoofers: amzn.to/3mU4olr
CPVC Elbows: amzn.to/34mJNjv
Bitcool Safe Pump: bit.ly/3tIneAn
Link to download the firmware: t.me/AsicToChat 
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dude im so happy you are doing vids on this...im a gpu miner and run about 140 5700xt and 3000 series nvidia gpus and am looking to make the switch to some asics. im always about finding the most efficient settings for any hardware to mine. but there are people out there that dont pay anything or next to nothing for power so i definitely see the want to go higher hash at lower efficiency. thanks so much for this!
WHOA thats some serious power pull on the GPU side!! I have a mere five 3080’s!
Awesome video, love the format and all of the information.
Thanks, Bryan! I’m really liking this new line of work!!
I love watching your vids, because you one of the few people on this platform who actually know what they are talking about, and don't just spew bullshit for views. I love watching you whenever you drop a new video! keep it up!
My Favorite video of yours to date! Wonderful job! I enjoyed it so much I'm going to watch it again and like it under another account!
Haha I appreciate your hard work!
Awesome video! And great editing👍🏼
Thanks and BIGGER thanks!!
Love these videos. Keep em coming man
Thanks, James! Do you race your car by any chance? Im not stopping any time soon!
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE I take it on trackdays from time to time, I highly recommend getting one if you ever get the chance. Most wild/ fun/ scary experience you’ll have owning a car
dude love you content as always! I think this might of been the best one yet. Don't blow out one of those bad boys for the name of views tho!
Oh no, if I destroy anything, itll just be the power supply - and those are only a couple hundred bucks. The views are just for kicks still at this point! The mining and investing is what brings in the bread...
Fuck your videos are way better than anyone else's out there. Love the fire graphic btw.
Great content as always.
Thanks, Micah Freeman!
god damn man im not sleeping cause of this it just makes me nervious seeing that imagine that could happen or that or that cause for me its a lot of money (being from mexico and just starting mining with 500 dollars) but i still love the fact that its not mine and love to see somebody else try the things im not capable in doing and even if i could wouldn want to lol!! keep up the great work man
Yeah its too scary! Ive since just turned everything down to a nice, comfortable 15% overclock.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE man i would be scared to just think that i have that kind of money into 1 machine
Love the videos!
Digging your content.
Hi, I would like to know if direct heat exchange for your Dielectric coolant BC-888 for example is better? or is it better using a water loop system through brazed heat exchanger plates?
OMG, this video is gold, entertaining, informative, and makes me wanna do it! BTW, can you share the design of your tank?
For sure - I’ll get out there and measure that thing today
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Thanks!
Great video brother
Thanks, B Rad!!!
Omfg I loved this vídeo!
Haha I love your comments. Well done. And yes copper vs chlorine or brine fluids= death to heat exchnager. But for the same price you can buy stainless steel heat exchanger for pool setup ;)
I found one of those stainless steel ones after plumbing in the second radiator.. Though I DO still want to see the pool heating plan come to fruition so I suppose I should order that up
Big thank you for that vid. I am not an enginer. So may be a stupid question. Butwhy can't you jack up the voltage above 15 volts to increase frequency and overclock since you get an input of 240 V ?
Ok, it clicked with your vid on dismantling an antminer. You need more amps in the machine, so lower voltage w=uxI
Hey buddy when you set up the firmware did it asic for for a password after it was set up. It doesn’t allow me to make any adjustments
with this firmware does the machine still know to shut it self off if it gets to hot. Also i cant find which file i need on asic.to for the bb board. it looks like they have been updated and changed
Can you post a link for that case? I’d love to buy one
Awesome video. 100% interested in switching to immersion cooling. Has EngineerdFluids come out with their all in one immersion kit yet?
They tell me they’re done with it. So I think they just haven’t updated their website. You should email them!
Yep, u request a quote, for a 2 s19 size setup it will run you around 7k i think it was
Edit: $6,803.51 not including piping or connectors so add prob another 100 (over-estimate)
FogHashing have
Diving deep into the submarines of Bitcoin mining
Question for when you immersed your miners, what level of cleaning did you do? I see some people just dunk em, and others blow em off then clean them off with rubbing alcohol.
Well I always ran mine in a filtered room when they were on air cooling, so when I submerged them, I opened them up to take a look, but it was all clean so i just went for it! This dielectric coolant will do a thorough job of cleaning any remaining dust or whatever might have been on them off of them.
the voltage can change 10% up or down so the wattage would also be different. Does anyone have correct data about this? I'm looking to immersion cool myself.
Dude, nice video. One question. Immersion cooling and the fans of PSU. Do the fans on PSU have an issue by running in oil? Due to density difference between air and oil?
Will those fans in oils not get demaged?
Thx Peter
You CAN take them off, but no they won’t get damaged. The oil lubricates them well and they run slowly in the oil..
Basically they have whatever voltage applied to them and that causes them to spin so with the resistance of the oil they simply spin slower, they don’t work harder- if that makes sense.
Maybe you can buy FogHashing's immersion liquid kit
Nice!
Good morning ,
or can we buy only the immersion tank please?
in order to make a standalone installation like you,
Thank you for your answer because on the site there is a complete kit and for 2 asics not yours which should contain a gpu.
Looking forward to reading from you
THANKS
Make me an offer! Contact me at spacedesignwarehouse@gmail.com
What temperatures are you able to hold on one radiator? How large is the radiators, and what cfm are the fans pushing? Love your videos
These radiators are 24”x24” and it’s a 3000cfm fan, a bit overkill, but with one radiator, and no overclock I get temps in the mid to upper 60’s C. This is in Orlando Florida where it’s summer already.
Hey! Bald experiment. Do you think these two 24x24 radiators would be able to dissipate the heat of two S19sJ Pros with/without overclocking?
I do think they would, yes.
Awesome
It looks like similar to Vnish. Well, just a little hehehe. What is the limit of power thah the power supply of the Sj19 Pro 96/104THs can handle? 20 amps. Good video
Yep! Vnish and asic.to are the same thing.. That power supply can push out 4500 watts if you keep it cool.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE I got more than 130 THs with 695 Mhz and only 14.4 V. I noticed you use higher voltages for each frecuency than me. Do you think 14.4 is too low or if I get stability it's fine anyway? Do you have a place where I can find recommending overclock settings? I can't find so much information on internet about ASIC overclock with immersion cooling. Thank you in advance man
@@KeepeRArg every individual miner will have different ideal settings. The chips that make these things are sort of a ‘lottery.’ Sounds like you got a really nice set of chips!!!
If it’s stable, you’re doing it right. That’s the whole point of all these firmwares starting to ‘autotune.’ They will find the best frequency for each set of chips in your miner and tune them individually (in sets of three).
If you go to asic.to you can try out their newest firmware that has autotune now.
I think with the right airflow it's alot less work personally. Plus when your boards have issues you have to clean oil off to fix them. That's why you see the major Mines running airflow.
Well Ive had my immersion tank running for a couple months and havent had to touch it - at the hurricane room, Ive only had to change wall filters once, so really both methods are barely any work.
Why don't you try the vanish PSU upgrade? To get the magical 170 Th/s on 6000Kw. It seems to go on the scope of this channel. I would very much love to to see you try it. Swapping 3 resistors is all it takes.
It’s on the list! Probably a week from now
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Please try to be as detailed as possible with that video. CANNOT WAIT!!!!
Might i ask why it is that you are using those two heat exchangers instead of a truck radiator for it? im only asking this as I am just finishing up my own setup somewhat similar to your design for my s19 unit.
Well I started with a car radiator, which seemed to do well, but I wanted to overclock super hard, so I moved up to this heat exchanger (which really is no different from a truck radiator, just thicker, more tubes inside) and I was experimenting with a plate heat exchanger to heat the pool with. But it turned out I used the wrong heat exchanger, and the pool water was going to destroy it, so since I already had that second loop built, I just put another radiator on it and now it’s now.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE gotcha, the main reason why i was wondering about using a truck radiator is because they have the built in fans, which seem like they would do a very good job at cooling the radiator, though given, i am not sure if they are designed to run 24/7, as i noticed the motors getting very hot when running at full speed
@@teaganconnor8192 the only issue with that is that those fans will run on 12 volt DC power. You can certainly make that kind of power inside, you just have to plan for it.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE yeah i had to run a 120v to 12 v psu for it, though the fans motors seem to be overheating when i run em at 12v as they are extremely hot to the touch, which would not be good if the fans burned out leaving the system with no cooling option
Can you cool these radiators underground? Geothermal cooling?
I suppose a guy COULD do that.. But I dont know if just the cool ground could keep up with how much heat gets passed through this radiator. Thousands of watts of heat would likely locally heat the ground faster than it would get carried away.. But it would be a neat experiment.
Do you have to unlock ssh before installing the asic.to firmware in order for it to work?
Nope, the firmware runs off of a microSD
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE I cannot for the life of me get the firmware to work. You make it seem so simple lol
I'll keep trying
Finally got it to work. Had to use a different computer to get it to flash it correctly. Thank you for your videos!
You got that APW12 to output 4888W at the wall? I was under the impression that its max was 4000W. Do you have any specs on this PSU? (Bitmain doesn't list max watts)
4888 was the most I could get out. It can only push out up to 15volts without modifying the power supply.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE oh, I know about the mod…. Just wondering if that 4888W is safely achievable long term (unmodified) and, if so, is that extended power range only because it is immersed
@@dimitrikatsaros9212 i have been able to push my apw12 to roughly 5200watts tho it begins to shut it self off not much farther than that
@@teaganconnor8192 Thanks for that! On another note, it would be really interesting to finally see an efficiency curve on this PSU so that we can know its "sweet spot"
The only time I wish I lived in Alaska.
Have 2, 96Th & a 104Th all at 130th, 14.1-14.2v & 775mhz and right at 3800 watts, each on a 20a breaker for now. Gotta get bigger wiring first.
Yeah, you DEFINITELY dont want those wires heating up too much..
Can we have some more GPU videos please! and your opinions on ETH 2 etc. Love the vids hope you remember me!!
Thats actually a great idea for a video - yes, yes we can.. Strong is coming up tomorrow, but thatll be just a quicky
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE awesome man you're definitely one of my favorite content creators at the moment!
Do you have the schematics for the box? Would love to build one.
Shoot, I DID have those... Im not at the warehouse at the moment.. DM me on instagram and Ill measure it tomorrow.. @nicholas_james_johnson
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Sent message. Thank you ! Keep doing your thing
I tried to install the " Asic to " more ta asking for a password to unlock
Which program is asking for a password?
The newer versions of this overclock need to be flashed onto the sd card. Use Balena Etcher to do it
Hey man your flow rate must be pants as the resistance through you rig is greater the flow is largely external. Put in an isolation around the rig and improver your thermodynamics . I got a laptop cooler with the silicon seal also why dont the have gpu blocks for these things like imsure the Hash per kwh would be much better with water. Would be great to see a heat pump between the rig and the pool like 5 degrees emersion efficiency would be class
How many watts maximum for a power supply stock ??
Stock, if you keep it cool enough, this power supply can push out 4800 watts continuous.
What is the max chip temp you saw you can run?
Once they hit 90°C the machine will shut off
Hi bro i have APW121215E, what is the limit of that power supply... Can you please tell no knows about that...
Well that depends on how you’re running it. It’s rated to run at 3300 watts. But in immersion cooling, I’ve had one of those PSUs running consistently at 4500 watts without any problems. If you use the 3D printer shroud with an 8” bigger fan that blows more air through there it’s totally stable at 4000-4300 watts as well.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE hi... Your reply is appreciated boss... And i am your big fan.. yes i am switching immersion cooling.. so the maximum capacity is 4500 watt with modified PSU.. correct...??...
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE and i am using this shroud... 6" with miner fan.. for reduce the sound..
ruclips.net/user/shorts27fegnvnNQI?feature=share4
@@indianminer You actually dont need to modify it if youre using immersion and less than 4500 watts. But you still can for more room on your overclock.
Any idea why when I run asic.to on my s19 with their updated firmware that it would say it isn't identifying chips? Worked just fine before I put sd card in to overclock...
What do you mean when you say isn’t identifying chips? Like it has zero hash rate on some chips?
Can you say what it says for voltage and clock speed?
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE No... it just keeps rebooting. Not sure what's going on, but can't seem to get past initizialing phase. I can see all info after waiting 20 mins still had 0 hashrate.
I'm using the antminer-s19-ASICTO-v1.1.8-sd.img.gz firmware... When I pull out the sd card and reboot it, everything works and links up again.
@@natedanzer5602 oh.. you may have downloaded the wrong version for your board. I think they still only support beaglebone and xylinex boards. BB have the SD card on the opposite side (rear) as the Ethernet port, and Xylinex boards have the sd card on the same side as the Ethernet port.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Yup caught that in one of your vids (thank you btw, very helpful). But I have the Xylinex board... would you use the older version or do you happen to know what version I should be using?
Where did you get your flow plate? Thanks
From engineeredfluids.com
@SPACE DESIGN WAREHOUSE I have the same pump as yours do you think it's pretty slow? Any thoughts of upgrading it
Came home and my bitcool was 122 degrees but the miner says 60 in 72 out
Looking at musk mining right now. Do you have a discount promotion code?
No discount but I would appreciate you mentioning me when you contact them so they know where you discovered them:)
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE will do sir
Remove the casing of PSU and especially casing of miner. Find a way to support boards in your SLIC so that u also remove that bottom plate. This will increase flow thru boards, thus better cool.
Ive thought about this, but the case is what directs the flow right next to the hash boards.. like a tunnel.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE The flow is mostly lead by the pump pushing the cooled liquid at bottom. Thru convection the hot liquid, having less density, floats over the cold. By keeping the casing, the hot liquid has no possibility of being replaced by cooler liquid because its trapped inside by the case. Right from bottom in contact with board the liquid gets hot and travels “hot” all the way up inside casing because it can’t be replaced by cooler liquid found in its surrounding. It’s indeed a minor improvement but it’ll be more distributed cooling.
@@almaguapa-sailboatliveaboa440 Fair enough! Its a good enough reason to make another video if you ask me! Im leaving for a trip to New York right now but when I get back Ill get to work on it
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE Cool. Enjoy! Take multiple infrared pictures and laser temperature measurements before and after. 👍💪
I love balena etcher
Ha, I love that there is a balena etcher fan in the club :)
whats the limit for mine? i dint expect to be personally called attacked at the end of the video as i sit here next to my s19jpro that i havent even plugged in yet lool
Hahaha, I apologize. Also, plug that thing in, it prints money!!
Can I get it to 180 if I have psu of 6000w capacity
the only miner i have seen pushed past 150 was the s19 pro(110TH) unit and with a modded psu and immersion cooled i think it was pulling close to 220 TH
I think you can! Some do better than others just sort of at random. It takes experimentation.
@@teaganconnor8192 where can I get modded psu
@@mohammadomar5749 you can mod it yourself for couple of bucks in resistor parts or pay some company like 500$ to do it tho or buy one modded for like 900$. I believe our friend at space design warehouse, is going to show us all how to do it sometime though so i would hold off doing anything for now.
Your the over clocking warlord 😂
I prefer overlord. But if I have to go to war with these things, then so be it!
Great video but have you seen the video that shows the quick mod you can do to the power supply to provide your miner more power? As I recall it was a matter of soldering in 4 tiny resisters. I look forward to you making this mod and running you machine even faster.
See ruclips.net/video/kZt_ejnZKP4/видео.html I had another video but can't find it now.
This link suggests you can remove the fans in the PSU but you will have to review to make sure.
Next tweak, is adding refrigeration to your cooling loop. If you cool it enough, i.e. down 5-10C you should save on watts used and partially reduce the increase in power used due to overclocking. I bet you can get to 160 plus THs at less than 5,400 Watts!
I look forward to that video.
Thanks of all the great videos/work.
I will be nodding my PSU when I get back from this next trip
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE are you planning on making a video of how you modified your PSU? that would be very interesting to see for sure!
@@teaganconnor8192 yes indeed!! My plans got pushed back a bit, I’m in New York for a thing and now I’m flying straight to miami for another thing so it’ll be another week and a half before I’m in the studio.
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE well try to not have to much fun in miami lol
@@SPACEDESIGNWAREHOUSE please check the comments in the RUclips video showing how to mod. The guy behind the over locking firmware “asic to the moon” I think his name is Marc. Mention that he is working on new firmware and new resistor hack for 10kW!! The one shown in the video is an old hack and from my understanding from his comment that’s it’s not recommended because of the actual firmware. So maybe you could talk to asic to the moon and be beta tester and let us know. 👊
Next you will have a sauna shed in your backyard
Actually yeah a sauna would be pretty simple, just build another building and direct all this heat! That’s a fine idea
FIRST !!!!!
FIRST!?
I mean, you beat Yanni.
How’s MVIS?
well it took a pretty long dive, but it looks like were starting back on the right course again!
S19 pro getting 140+Th at 5.05k watts on air.
WHOA!! Livin dangerously!!
i don't understand .... Your coolers are copper too as we can see, so if chrolire eats it ....
Yeah, the pool water has been removed from the equation. Previously I was running pool water through a heat exchanger and that’s what was going to go bad. In these copper radiators I’m running Bitcool through them, it’s an oil not water.
Somebody get this guy some liquid nitrogen
Do you want to mining in INDIA ?
Are you asking if I want to mine Bitcoin in India?
I like how westerners are so comfortable in telling everyone that theres expensive mining rigs in their house by installing something like this outside the house for show.
Kinda setting urself up as break-ins target.
Bring steak cubes for the Rottweiler; his name is Chop.
Uping the voltage aint gonna help. modding the PSU so more wattage can be sent to the hashboards will. Easy 5min mod.
There’s no slider for watts. More volts = more watts. And you are correct, you need to do the mod to get more volts.
Takes those fans out of your psu…
I suppose thats a good idea.. They take very little power, though, and arent botthered by the BitCool
Well there’s additional drag aka a small amount of resistance in the bitcool fluid, compared to those fans spinning in the air. That resistance will burn out your psu fans eventually.