IT'S OVER | The New World PR Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- New World's Friday announcement backfired. In this video we dive into the community reaction and causes for concern for the future of New World.
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0:00 what happened
1:48 what we got
3:31 FFA island issues
5:23 the PR disaster
6:27 Asmongold's Reaction
8:15 Can NW Recover?
11:29 What people are doing now?
13:55 Why hype it up?
15:38 AGS' Trackrecord 
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AGS betrayed what was left of the existing playerbase. They have consistently overpromised and underdelivered. The amount of incompetence they have shown time and time again should be a case study in how to fail as a gaming studio. It's depressing.
Lied to about the roadmap (barring an immediate change). Lied to about the announcement. Lied to about Slayer Script. Nothing but lies. Embarrassing and unbelievably scummy.
They literally made an announcement across all socials saying they will have a video up this week to address it all. None of what you mentioend was a lie.... its all there. Theyre just so dumb they thought they could hold off on the content announcements without people getting mad
@@mainjah1356 Roadmap - I acknowledged they have time to make this one right. Announcement - we were completely ignored, told it was amazing and for us. It was neither. Slayer Script - has ruined combat, is still a buggy mess months later.
@mainjah1356 if an insincere apology makes you feel better about it lol
@@mainjah1356 They keep liying, all lies they should run for President or so,and remember in comunication the fault on it it always has to do with the lack of capacity of the emisor not the receptor.
Its sad to see such a fun game die in such a slow burn. Other MMOs wouldve been shutdowm 2 years ago and been remembered fondly by the last players. Meanwhile New World has lived long enough to become hated by its most dedicated players.
Truly the biggest wasted potential of an MMO in all history.
as a musket veteran who retired months ago, I will be coming back to for fresh start to bully all controller players and force them all to refund.
It's a bummer how they used the PC community as beta testers. Thanks for all the content that you provided Mecrow.
Ah don't worry console community will be used as beta testers as well. Until they close the game and keep working on their main project LOTR mmo... which will sucks equally lol
Mecrow, a big thank you to you. You did so much for the community. If anyone at AGS would only have a fraction of your motivation and competence...
We kept this game afloat for 3 years... and this is how they treat us? Very disappointing.
Took quite a long time for people to realise simple truth - game was dead from the start. Devs are incompetent clowns, game engine just doesnt work, zero content for years. Funniest thing is - it will be the same on consoles. They couldn't learn what to do with the game on PC for 3 years neither they will for consoles.
Tbf you can’t really just blame the devs you have to blame the director of the devs, their just doing what their told.
@@Tuggsie sure, but he is part of the devs right? Was saying devs in general, meaning management and everything. There's obviously some huge problems
True, game died after the first month lmao
@@user-ov5rb7hn4p def felt that, ya f those guys! Lol . But in all seriousness if whoever’s directing would get their head out their ass. And whoever’s making all the devs stay quiet when referring to roadmap is the one ruining the community. You can see that they are receiving the death stair when talking about anything in the game
New World turned out to be such a disappointment, after the rise of the angry earth update I saw the roadmap and realized these people don't care or listen at all. Jut recycling the same content over and over with a different skin.
FFA , but 20 peeps on discord still gonna be able to monopoly that shit to high heaven.
very true, these days with all the communication option we have, ffa isnt a thing anymore
My m3 teammates were invisible to me during the run and only way I saw them were the dots on their back. I didn’t even react cause of how many bugs are in the game.
That’s not just an opr bug?! Lmao
@@mecr0w nope. I was going to record and make a reaction video to all the bad news lately, but I think mentally I’m burnt out on it all. Sad that my favorite game just died. Hurts. Anyway great video once again. Your content is top notch.
Tone deaf developers. I’ll never come back until they replace the entire dev team.
Scot pulled the real Oppenheimer this time 💀
hahaha
The girl in the red light at 6:46 is literally a paid actor. The devs really dropped the ball, and I feel like they don't want to deal with the pc community with nw anymore :/
With over 7K hours and even more optimism for NW over the past few years… (and I hate to admit this) but all I have left is two crossed fingers. Copium went out the window with the summer fest shenanigans; and hopium stuck up its middle finger with the Dev video. I realize now that “WE,” the community, kept this game alive. But life support can only go but so far. 😢
Fun fact. Star citizen does not use the lumberyard engine anymore. They completely rebuild the lumberyard engine to the starenginr or how it is called because lumberyard sucked so bad. So it is officially their own new engine
That's not even the full story... SC got CryEngine not lumberyard... Lumberyard was already a custom made CryEngine from Amazon.. SC used the original CryEngine and Change it in similar ways as lumberyard
Thanks for all the content Mecrow, Albion's a lot of fun too
Hey. Wishing you the best going forward. I honestly don’t think these devs deserve content from any of us. I too left new world and been playing some Albion . I’m NA but been playing on EU server as recommended by a lot of vets. Can add ya!
I started on na since my ping to eu would be like 150-200 but might try it as some point
exit from the zone can be implemented anywhere as a teleport.
Looks like we'll get our escape from Takrov
What is the difficulty for them to make a few OPR maps? I remember back like 20 years ago I was custom making COD maps for my private servers, as a player, yet they cant' do it as devs for their own game.
dude they still havnt fixed a bug where suddenly in OPR u cant use abilities anymore, and you just sit there untill game is over, its the most buggy game i ever seen. And i been playing MMO starting with Ultima Online
End is near and tbh sooner than i expected
Great video man. You presented the whole issue very clear - especially to someone who hasn’t followed in a long time.
One thing I think is bad with this release too is that I’m someone who hasn’t been convinced to come back since launch and so I haven’t bought the expansion yet. They have to convince me to spend $30 to play this “new content” and it just doesn’t seem worth it - especially after watching this video and seeing the community at large reaction.
Yea I mean there are some good parts but for the most part it’s a bit lackluster.
Thanks for all the content brother
Cheers!
BDO has been my new goto. Actual action combat being fun. Capheon ball also comes out late this month and its the best event to start playing.
Game is fun gameplay wise but it gets repetitive and boring fast. It’s a mob farming simulator and PvP is kind of pay to win. But anything’s better than new world so have fun.
Mecrow you made it! Was worried for a second there. A lot of long warm showers I bet. No worries I still think I'm inside a nightmare of some kind.
I feel disrespected and devalued. That is the main reason I stopped playing
Does someone think AGS will have better track record on consoles to fix bugs and bringing content? Those console players are about to see what crap quality service is.
And that Lord of the Rings MMO? At this point every sign from their games and Amazons Ring of Power series just screams that Lord of the Rings MMO will be cancelled before the launch. My bet is on them announcing the cancelation in spring 2025.
Imagine fixing bugs for PC, Xbox, and PlayStation. Incoming announcements will be like: “Disabling X thing across all platforms because on Y system it is not working as intended”
I love NW, but the reaction by Asmongold almost makes it worth it. Love your take on all of this. Like you, I am looking for a new MMO, but none of them quite hit the mark with a combination of action combat, fantasy setting, non-cartooney characters, and not pay to win. I cannot think of one... sadly.
Try the Pax Dei early access next week
Sadly combat has a looooooooong long way to go in Pax, compared to nw is 1/10 :/ @@lllDolph
Mortal online 2 had been my addiction since new world
"Don't you pan away, where you going?" Had me dying 🤣
Alright i know he went over other game options... But like... Is there anything with combat like nw used to have?
Not really
In regards to the pvp island, they should implement the same system as the wild in runescape. Parts of the zone should be singles , and some parts multi combat. In singles once you engage in combat with a player it essentially locks you guys in a duel essentially. Once combat is done you have a small 5 second or less timer where you can't get hit again or something.
In multi they can allow for ganking and XvX
Basically AGS just needs to take all the systems from osrs and implement into game lol.
I can’t wait to see the bugs they will be introducing! Can they make better ones than what we have already seen.
except that we dont know how big is Eternal Isle content update.
im sure they can restrict the zone to 1v1's and lock you in to damage only 2 people can do to each other like runescape. they already have the combat timer. You would be surprised how many ppl play solo and want a mode for them. this is fresh and new, way better then an opr map. something for the non zerglings. they will figure it out
How does it feel to be a full time beta tester and not get paid for it?
I hate this because NW is one of my favorite games in terms of time period. I love the weapons... I was waiting for pistols too. The pirate theme... a rapier combat that is just superior to rapiers in other games...
NW will go down in history as having the biggest potential for an MMO.
Also pissed off, everything true to what you are saying, just a little correction, they said there is gonna be some kind of "extraction mechanic" to get out of the pvp zone.
Yup, I'm not a big PvP player but I did get a taste of the Musket Union when our guild was helping another guild in a Race and one of the enemy guilds is a notorious Musket Aim Bot cheater group and it was the least fun thing I did in a long time. For casual players it is a major turn off and you are 100% right, it will be one giant camping zone.
thank god
As par for the course it is for devs who have given the middle finger to the player base for over a year now, it's still somewhat unbelievable that their "huge thing, just wait, we wish we could tell you, lots of good things coming " actually turned out to be what every cynical player guessed it would be - console release....amazingly bad, even by AGS "standards". Uninstall complete. Thanks for all the cool content up to now Mecrow. See you 8n Ashes someday 😊
Me and a friend logged in yesterday , just to Arena, haven't been on since Slayer script..... wtf did they do lol .... PvP was good before ... now I'm getting hit in i-Frames and stuff jolting all over lol
Unfortunately, not much else to start playing (already played all the ones on your list). NW is lucky that is the case and the MMO player base is stuck in this long drought.
I quit when they nerfed sns, came back for the expansion and quit again when they nerfed shirking heals. Whomever was keeping bow/musket better than melee killed it.
We get swimming so tecnicly u can get out of the AREA anywhere ? XD
I play New World for a couple of reasons, the pvp and the classless system. And when it comes to pvp the end game is war. I'm not one of those people who gets regularly slotted for war. OPR is nice but it is the same thing over and over again and it isn't war. What I have been wanting for years now is for them to make their best content, war content available to more people. I don't they realize that the pvp part of the game is what makes it stand it out. They really don't appreciate their pvp players.
I been only war logging the past year and will continue to do so until game dies, game would of been much better with any other studio, hope the current team once the game dies never get another job in the industry again and LOTR flops and they just admit theyre dogshit, never seen a worse dev studio in my entire life, imagine not taking advantage of being the only action combat MMO and putting actual effort into the game and releasing regular content. Ill just be waiting and hoping AoC is decent enough to move to or ill be going back to FPS games, actual let down.
Whole Heartedly agree, it definitely seems there were three primary issues. Management, Engine, and a constant state of playing catchup. They've been playing catchup because of the initial pivot to a MMO was rushed (probably because of management). The engine they're using is a giant piece of shit no one wanted to work with and is notoriously bad for having abysmal documentation and is slow to develop for. That with the game of catchup they're playing means this task is sisyphean and further management choices of doubling down in their lies instead of accepting the position they're in cemented their fate.
Its a shame because the foundation was good, but shit management rushed them into piling more and more shit on a questionable foundation.
I'm really gonna miss this combat. Nothing else, really. Not a single other damn thing. But the combat, unfortunately nothing like it.
It'll be great you guys, you'll see!
There is tarisland coming out june 20 as well
Dont sleep on T&L just because AGS is the publisher. The studio (NCSoft) has been pushing a lot of content, balance patches, changes to PVP to ensure more fair play vs largest zerg wins etc, new zone annouced (Zones are huge) and the game is actually fun.
Super pay2win in fact right now end game players are stating how bad it is on Asia... So it's gonna be another MMOs to not even consider
I started playing Age of conan again. The game is on maintenance mode, but fun non the less :)
They don’t give a fuck bout PC players
This was the biggest let down ever. I’ve been waiting for a new PvP mode/map announcement for over 2 years. They know what the community wants yet deliver absolutely nothing. It’s hard to say whether this game can make a recovery or not. It’s possible that through the rebranding on console it picks up momentum and becomes popular again. The only problem is that if they continue to deliver the same terrible quality that they have been, it will surely die. If somehow after this rerelease they can produce quality updates with actual content in a timely manner then I can see the game doing well. I doubt it.
Sad days... it sucks for existing players, but they do need to try to find a new audience for the game. They totally could've handled the execution and communication of all this better. It's never been something they were good at.
if we continue to support this game after this we honestly deserve it lmao
I honestly think that if newworld go back to b base building survival the game would be more alive than today cuz the community can build,create something by themselves
After 4k hours, im done.
Think ill return to eso sinve i love themepark with pvp modes.
So no ashes for me ^^
PREACH BROTHER PREACH
Also been playing Albion lately. The P2W kind of ruins any incentive to grind - so what is left is only doing what is fun.
Great economy/ crafting systems. Game has a good ecosystem and I like the TTK in general. The full loot is fine cause how the game is balanced
With crossplay they cant split patches.
welcome to Everquest Next
That PvP area better not be a giant beach lol. (I don’t play musket :[ )
If there’s no natural cover T_T
It doesn’t matter if the PvP zone or new raid is good. This is all way too little and way too late.
They needed a complete overhaul of many systems and weapons, and a shit ton of content on top of that.
To sit there and be gaslit by people saying “it’s not just a console port, you’re getting content stop overreacting” is insane to me.
I'm not sure AGS really cares if the last 7k leaves the game. They've already confirmed NW Aeternum as a new game, ignoring the fact that NW has been out for the last 3 years or how long it has been. It's sad and scummy that we've been treated like shit and now gotten slapped in the face with the big announcement that was inevitable just a letdown.
With the reputation NW has i doubts console players will dare to buy and deal with the headache PC community has face for 3 years already.
I got in on the weeklong beta for throne and liberty. It sucked.
This is a sad sh*t show I'm at a loss of words 😢😢
We’re on beta guys
I tried going back to D2 a few months after bailing on NW January-ish… it’s so over done now. It’s just an electric light show of infinite abilities and spam. It so basic of a game in a way that just makes it boring, imo. That said I played new world the past few days leading into the June announcement hoping to get back into, but it has really lost its luster and the inputs for combat seem worse than ever. I am blown away away we waited til June for this… gotta laugh. Good news is I have been finding time to do other things in my life. No hard feelings NW was a blast while it lasted.
I think the open pvp map is bad because of everything you said. Better would have been matchmaking in OPR and Arenas and good rewards. Maybe also another pvp mode and wars more for everyone.
They are abandoning the MMORPG players and repackaging the game for a new audience of console players. They don't need to announce new content because they can relaunch on console with what they have. This is corpo "strategic" bullshit. The current player base is no longer the intended audience unless you are willing to eat the shit sandwich and pretend this relaunch is a brand new game. Every aspect of this game is a workaround for their incompetence and this relaunch is just another example of that.
When console sales fail to meet the executive’s expectations, they’ll finally get around to firing Scot Lane.
I'm surprised yall even lasted this long tbh. Meta was already hot ass and it was obvious from S5 PTR that the game itself was going to be beyond broken. Time better spent elsewhere homie.
same
Missed opportunity to say IT’S JOEVER in the title
True lol
They are rebranding as an RPG so as to not have the expectation of future updates. It's one final cash grab. It's over we lost. The console players will leave for the same reasons that the majority of PC players left.
You was the best new world's creator bro ;)
The few streamers and youtubers that still made New World content finally realizing the game was never going to get good, lol love to see it. You guys really had major Stockholm Syndrome, to be honest. I hope whoever is left knows what's going to happen next. Console release will be broken, they'll spend the next year trying to fix it so they'll have no time to create actual new content, and the console playerbase will also peace out. LotR MMO is going to be the same trash.
does anyone remember that youtuber with a trollface avatar that kept bullying new world back in 2021-22? he was right all along lol i wish i could remember his name so i can go apologize haha
@@nokomoko8832 Swole benji if im not mistaken
I like the swimming :D
It’s fun but if there’s nothing to do with it it’s nothing more than fun. If there’s an underwater resource it could be cool!
All of that plus the game only being viable if you do RMT.
4:15 MUSKET UNION REFERENCE :O POG
ags will now be a warning on a game to not buy it if they are involved.
So when the devs said all they care about is the long term health of the game, what they really meant is they couldnt care less about >10k PC players as they have bigger plans to rip off hundreds of thousands of console players to get some money back
R I P…
Hunt: Showdown uses cryEngine too guesting that crysis 4 should be using too
Musket Union on top! xD
That whole video was a for of self abuse... and we all got edged for 6 months... They really should just start a NW onlyfans and go from there.
Console players being lumped in with PC players is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. They'll basically never get a chance to experience wars and if they do.. good luck with the horrendous FPS they'll be pulling. They'll never be able to compete against PC players.
The FFA island needs to have boats/portals around the area to extract or something.
At the end of the day.. New World will never turn it around until they get a new group to lead the dev team. It's been years of good ideas paired with wildly incompetent moves.
Isnt the problem with new world content, cuz they been rebuilding the code for it on the background and the story since it was switched from a sandbox survival to a mmorpg or online coop rpg like they said? And their biggest problem is that they cant say the truth.
They don’t know what the game is yea
It is 100% systemic and leadership problem. Anyone who works in field does notice this for long time already. Game is dead mainly bc of low quality top managment.
How are those people actually applauding this? Do they get paid per clap? This is insane 😮😮😮never seen some shit like this.
they were given gifts to clap
Wow this is some serious NPC bullshit. We cannot stand for this. I would never do that even for free swag
i play this game casually once or twice a week but i've seen a few of your most recent videos and i don't get all the grievances the 4 content creators left have with this announcement, based on leaks we all got what we were expecting, no? i mean i don't follow new world content as much anymore but i still knew how the announcement would go.
I'll tell you what, I've been reading the same comments from you for the last two days. You're a stupid bot and you're not going anywhere. Give a big shout out to AGS and tell them that PC players have cursed them.
For the past several months they kept saying "We can't tell you what's coming keep tuned for June" and the announcement is basically nothing except console ports. For enfranchised players, this is meaningless. When they address the community for months, why say wait for June when there isn't anything for them in June? Let alone from June-Oct when the port actually launches.
@@PytorDukiv with a bit of common sense anyone would realize why they couldn't reveal anything, the console(s) announcement was probably tied to some sort of NDA. I also knew the announcement would be quite light and uneventful besides console ports, it was obvious. Mecrow/Odity/Baggins/etc hyped the June announcement even harder than AGS thesmelves... The devs have probably spent the past year porting it and will most likely spend the next year fixing all the console bugs that show up. They can't release steady content because they've been trying to mend all their fuckups. I honestly don't know why players held any hope at all, we all know how incompetent AGS devs are.
@@nokomoko8832 Except every knew a console port was coming and addressing the current, PC customers with "wait for the announcement to address your wants" doesn't make any sense.
They’ve given us nothing. Uninstall boys, let it die.
OPR map. A pvp zone with teams (so faction combat, all the time) with capture points and a reason to be there. Well designed, placed correctly on the map. Think Planetside 2, but in New World.
But nope. We get the absolute lowest amount of effort from devs who just. *Do. Not. Care.*
Dead game. I'm past the point of pity and comfortably residing in apathy at this point.
I've played the game on the xbox controller, and the console crowd has a rude awakening ahead, haha.
So clunky.
I heard and to rebind keys you have to do it through steam right? Not in game
opr already has cross world match making
Pc wise most of it’s community is gone, but console it will thrive. Keep in mind consoles are WAY more budget friendly than pc’s. Let alone pc’s that have minimum specs for modern games.
So I believe the servers will be full for a very long time thanks to the console players.
I’ll get back to playing once they release a full expansion. Until then I hope console players enjoy.
"Fresh start" meaning all the hours I spent are for nothing? We don t get anything in compensation as PC players? WTB Carved Statue of Jupiter Schematic so I can 100% complete this game and R.I.P..
No no it’s a new server that new players gravitate towards
@@mecr0w thanks for clarifying! Don t wanna buy that thing anymore!
This game died after 2 month of release. Its been in decline since then, we just reached peak lie and scam from this “devs”. But it was always like that. Deserve to go for good. Just play other games.
yall were upset about the idea of subscription based, and then cant believe when they dont care about people who bought the game already
These people who cheer are paid for it.
why they even give a shit about pc players, WHO: cheated, exploited used G2G and god know what else. and then they just left. 5k players isnot what this game deserves so if u ALL QUIT go for it