Vocal Coach Responds to Ken Tamplin Controversy
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Thanks for watching folks. This was a weird video for me to make but I wanted to make a note here that I was not referring to this guy Fil as a hack or in a negative manner. I was talking about other people with channels that have almost nothing to offer but negativity and jumping onto trends for their own benefit. Some people seemed to think I was speaking ill of Fil which rhymes and sorta makes me happy when I read it back, but I wasn’t. 😄
Did you watch the Wings of Pegasus Videos? Maybe you should have done and not reacting to something without knowing the background. Wings of Pegasus doing analyses of Music Videos that were requested by someone else and he is doing this in an
objective way. Maybe watch some his analyses and then react to these Videos.
@@derren66I’m not reacting to anything. I don’t understand what you’re saying. My students asked what I think about the Ken Tamplin being caught lip-syncing thing so, I talked about it. It’s not a surprise? Someone proved he was faking something? I know. I’ve always known. Didn’t need to prove it with software. I simply didn’t care 🤷♂️
@@SterlingRJackson same here, years ago. I also laughed at his obviously audible tongue “technique.” lol 😂
You don’t wanna do it but you’re doing it that’s called hypocrisy and here is a bit of advice you can always rely on never trust a hypocrite.
@@SterlingRJackson
We’ve always called him Ken Tampon - I think this should be a thing.
It's the fact that he has the nerve to belittle other vocal coaches and question their legitimacy that makes this all extremely pathetic and hypocritical. Everything he does is done in such a dishonest, narcissistic way that it's difficult not to find this all hilarious and deserved.
@@TomCristoforo like pointing out all of FREDDIE MERCURY’S “imperfections” ya mean! What an $&@€£¥#!
Its more about his extreme narcissism than just some lip syncing. Lying about high profile people praising him and wanting him to sing for them when they didn't.
This vid is me me me me me like he just keeps talking about himself not what I clicked on the vid for lol
exactly.
A singing tutor with no music contacts
vs
A singing tutor who conveniently has had all sorts of interactions with wealthy, large audience music acts?
OKAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
Extremely funny the way he always compares himself with all the great singers through rock history. Freddie Mercury, Paul Rodgers, Ronnie James Dio, Bruce Dickinson, Ken Tamplin…wait, there’s something wrong with this list.
My issue with him is his claim of being a Christian…then lying to the entire world!
I guess when he's indicted for fraud, he can try claiming not guilty by means of religious zealousness...that while he was miming, he was being a good Christian.
Exactly!! And a Pastor
What would be the distinction between the two...?
Then again, history learns that the biggest liars, abusers and narcissists in the entire world are christians. Therefore, over here in Europe, christianity is long dying, America will follow.
He's a MAGA type Christian so...a Christian in the sense that someone who eats a lot of steak is a vegan.
Ken Templin laughed at Freddie Mercury's supposed imperfections in live performances. That's the context this should be viewed in.
Actually what makes people legends like Freddie is they just sing and they don't worry about what all this stupid technique stuff. As you sing more and more technique can help sustain your voice longer as you age and help you at times when you need it but if you look at all the legends, they are far from perfectionist. Talk to Bob Dylan, or Robert Plant, Or Freddie Mercury, you think they care what Ken Templin has to say? I left a message years ago on Ken's page that he is missing the mark and just need to learn how to sing from the soul instead of his attempting perfection approach, he deleted my comment lol.
That's a joke....to discredit the late great Freddie Mercury. Tamplin is a disgrace to music. Though I don't think Freddie would care about these supposed imperfections if he were alive today, Tamplin is in NO position to discredit him. He's proved to be a fraud, plain and simple.
@@JR-qb7qt he's technique wasn't that bad, its just he wasn't a trained singer, he was a naturally gifted singer with good instincts. Freddy's voice is still more released and open compared Ken Templin's constricted and pinched voice.
@@JR-qb7qt With respect mate you have no idea what makes those guys legends. Ken Tamplin doesn't either, but tbf his teachings have undoubtedly helped some/many people get closer even if he ultimately misses the mark and his own singing isn't 'soulful'. He deals with mechanics and undoubtedly Plant, Mercury etc had good mechanics due to instinct and luck, as well as soul.
@@rarevisionog never said Freddie’s technique wasn’t good, I’m just saying people like him sang from a different place which we all still enjoy today and that’s because he just gave it his all even if his voice wasn’t there that day. He sang live and changed his octaves if he couldn't sing it that day.
He’s not only lip-synching his vocals, he’s miming the guitar as well. It’s also the fact that he’s been miming since the late 80’s early 90’s.
Well, that’s what I mean by lip syncing. Yeah.
I watched a recent concert of his and Ken is indeed playing guitar.
No at all, he sings sometimes in live. But a lot of people make that do I don’t understand
He can really play guitar. There are videos from the 80s of him playing and it is definitely live since he makes a few mistakes every once in awhile. It is not perfect.
@@ricomajesticdoesn't mean he can now, you have to play every day to stay good at it
I think he will continue to keep denying that he lip syncs, because that's been the pattern over the years.
Yeah. To be honest now would totally ruin everything I’m sure.
He has responded in a video on his channel. Lots of attitude, but he unapologetically admits using tracks where necessary. The guy is pushing 66ish
@@SterlingRJacksonhonesty is always the best policy. There would be some people that won't take honesty well but decent people would respect it.
@@JayDMac-n7n He will turn 61 in December.
This guy needs to read my post
I'm not mad at Ken, just disappointed. The worst part for him is that there's no graceful way out of this mess. He can either continue lying about it, or he can come clean and face the consequences. It's going to be ugly either way.
Yes, either way he's probably going to lose a lot of business. It'll be interesting to see if some of his best students like Gabriela will stick with him. They're still young and have their entire careers ahead of them. Any new videos on his channel with them will just raise questions about their own legitimacy as singers. I've seen live video of Gabriela over the years with Trans-Siberian Orchestra, and she's definitely phenomenal (and I can tell she's singing completely live since it's cellphone footage and sometimes she's not completely perfect). Ken probably has helped her quite a bit vocally, but continuing to stay on his payroll will likely only be hurtful to her career at this point.
I am pretty sure it would be far less ugly if he just admitted it. Still wouldn't be pleasant, but continuing to lie is never the best approach.
@@ThePoorBoy I suspect his star students are fully aware since they're all lip syncing in their own videos on Ken's channel.
His tongue position always bothered me 😂😂😂 scratching my head to understand how that helps lol
Pretty sure it doesn't. I think he just does it to stand out.
He once claimed it's an advanced singing technique that opens the throat, which always sounded odd to me because I've never seen anybody else do it.
I've asked him few times until got answer. As I remember it was about resonance.
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Helps with control when he is parroting someone.
The original analysis video was made by Fil Henley from Wings of Pegasus. If Ken Tamplin is going to lip-sync while signing off with "the proof is in the singing" and taking people's money by claiming he's the singer's singer and the real deal, then he more than deserves the scorn and opprobrium. Worse, he released a reaction video to the "disinformation", and had an opportunity to show some contrition but instead doubled down with more denials.
Yeah man. 🤷♂️
Even Bernie Madoff confessed when caught. LOL
@@SterlingRJacksoni just watched his reaction a day ago ._. After years of trying with those scales..i just need a better alternative tbh
I feel dooped fs
He is a snake oil salesman. There are a lot of con artists in the sales industry, and we must be critical of where we leave our hard-earned cash. I'm not a fan of smear campaigns either, but the truth must come out.
Just like his hero Trump!
And don't forget his constant reminders that he's related to Sammy Hagar. I don't think Sammy has gushed over Ken in any interview I've ever seen.
Sammy said he met Ken one time in his entire life.
Karaoke Ken. He sounds like a karaoke singer to me. Plus he has a cringy persona.
I think he swings in every direction 🌈
he's a phony salesperson that likes mugging and is easy to dislike.
I admit, when I noticed him besides his grating persona, I figured he was at least a good singer for the unnaturally wide tone and intonation, which was of course digitally edited.
It's not the end of the world, it's just the end of credit card flow for Mr Ken Tamplin.
The big issue with Ken is his claim that by using his technique people will be able to maintain their range and power over the long term, and the fact that he’s been lip syncing to vocal tracks he recorded long ago show that this is not true at all. So he’s been defrauding everyone that has been buying his courses and paying him for lessons for years and years at this point.
I don't believe Fil made the video specifically to attack Ken.
it wasn't a video he would've made, but he does make videos
based on suggestions. (patron I think?) and someone requested
Fil do Ken's live vs recorded vocals. Fil's way of analyzing imo
leaves little room for error. my only involvement in music is
listening. so I rely on what I believe is others expertise. I believe
Fil.
I've been following Fil for 4 1/2 years. No, Fil didn't make the video with any intention to attack Ken. He does analysis videos based on suggestions/requests from his subscribers, generally on Patreon. You're right--Fil's method of analyzing leaves little room for error and I'm saying this as a musician myself.
I agree with you !!!!
Fil never gets personal. His analyses are objective and carefully explained. Ken's response has been an aggressive, narcissistic, gaslighting rant. His best bet was to just shut up and wait for the whole thing to blow over, but he's created his very own Barbra Streisand Effect and done far more damage to himself than Fil ever could have even if he had wanted to.
The problem for me with Ken Tamplin is his tone. His tone sucks and I believe he knows it. If a singer doesn't have good tone, it's really hard to make it in the business. I've watched a lot of singing coach and almost none of them have a successful singing career.
he did once sell a lot of albums. Who knows what happened since the 2000s
Well, and you don't see a lot of singers with a successful coaching carreer.
To be good at something doesn't mean you know how to teach it to someone else who's different from you.
And teaching can be more rewarding than touring (depending on the style you choose to sing and the country you live in).
"Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
I laughed out loud when I saw the tongue thumbnail.
😂
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In hindsight I'm very glad that I didn't purchase his course back when I started out with singing. Not necessarily because of his teaching but more because I don't like his singing style at all anyway. Very glad that there are people like you or Chris Liepe out here actually helping people without having them pay a fortune!
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hmmm.....a lot of people are sick of the likes of Tamplin..cheating....miming..autotune and the like....me?..i have totally had enough of these fraudsters....they are shitting on music as an art...It's dishonest..and fraudulent.
Ken is a MAGA guy so he's following after his hero Trump who follows the Ray Cohn philosophy of never admitting guilt and never calling yourself a loser!
You missed the point!
The fact that he was lip-syncing is not the issue, it's the fact that he portrayed himself as singing. When he charges people to learn how to sing like him it is fraudulent, if he charged for a lip-syncing course he's fine.
He'll probably have time in court in the near future to explain why he deceived his customers.
he never deceived his customers. you are full of sh*t. you can watch any number of videos. he sings on them. even on the videos in question there is no proof that he is lip synching.
Exactly this ^. Lip-synching is done for a multitude of reasons and some of those reasons are forgiveable... but lying about it, gaslighting the guy who called it out, deceiving customers? The smart thing for Ken to do in response was... nothing. By going on the attack and ramping the narcissism up to 12 he's just drawn more attention to it. His reputation is in shreds.
It's hilarious that he is claims he is in the same league as Lou Gramm let alone Paul McCartney! What makes a great musician is you can recognize them in two notes!
That's absurd if he thinks that.
And he criticises Freddie Mercury. That alone is enough to prove that he is a fraud.
Ken's voice is quite recognisable, though easily confused with a pig being butchered
@@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x My neighbour has a cage full of cockatoos and other parrots. They make such racket that I often think Ken is visiting him.
Anybody who claims to be a "vocal coach" and lip synchs or uses backing tracks is a fraud, plain and simple.
Yup, you hit the nail right on the head.
I totally agree with you! I told him right out if you had just said “okay guys I might have cheated a lil bit cause I was nervous, sick etc. and didnt want to disappoint anyone. Im sorry.” Nothing would have came of it and all of this would be over right now. Instead hes not only denying it but replying to comments with a clip of this guy Fil going on Xfactor and not getting picked which I think is just mean! I told him “this guy didnt say anything about you personally. He was asked to analyze something. He did and your upset cause you got caught doing what you were doing. Your argument is with a software program that doesnt lie. Its not the guys fault he exposed you! He wasnt doing it for money or anything else and if you had done what I just suggested NONE of this would be happening now.” Of course he deleted all of it but whats happening to him is his own fault at this point. Hes the one perpetuating the lie. You reap what you sow man!
@@MagsMusicfan9 100 per cent agreed
Very well stated!
Its funny cuz ive always thought his tenique was terrible and wondered how anyone could like his voice or think he was good
Ken Tamperin has a lovely tongue how dare you
I don't think it makes people a hack for criticizing him/using his name to get their video out there. I'm thankful people are taking the time to do it, so others steer clear of his potentially harmful advice. Also, he's just so popular, that it's a good thing so many are doing it, so potential young singers will see the critique videos instead of his garbage. There's people that have claimed to have had vocal damage after taking his courses. Which, granted that could be on them for misconstruing Ken's advice, but since Ken is platforming himself on using these extreme techniques for singers endurance/ability to tour...he should probably be a little more clear with "hey, these things can still harm your voice" or something, idk.
100% there’s nothing wrong about making videos about people at all lol
Humans talk about other people’s work in every single media and way before the internet, I don’t understand why some consider it a taboo
Always knew there was something off about that dude.
He's not content with just miming vocals, he's miming guitar too.
Tamplin seems to be hanging his hat on this idea that he isn't lip synching, because he's actually singing along with a prerecorded vocal track. But if all we hear is the prerecorded vocals, its a distinction without a difference.
He's a self righteous scold, he's getting the pile-on treatment because he's a hypocrite.
What bothers me more is that in every video the comment section is totally biased. There’s no place for criticism or disagreement. I can tolerate him saying that he can sing like Sinatra or making fun of Mercury or legendary singers but have the balls to accept criticism on your comment section
His comment section makes me feel like I joined a cult.
I learn from Chris Liepe too and your lessons and explanations have really helped bring it all together. Techniques i was having a hard time understanding are finally making sense. I'm very happy to have found your channel. Thanks for everything you do!
same story here! :D
My vocal coach has a phd in voice from University of Texas, she’s a top flight soprano and she charges me $65 an hour. Helped me achieve subharmonics consistently and improved my range to E1 to C4.
Nice to hear that! Is it posssible to ask for her name/links?
I was taught as a child,
“If you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all”
Kids are not tough that anymore.
“When words are no better than silence, one should keep silent” - Kwai Chang Caine.
Ken just needs to ditch his "The proof is in the singing" motto.
He mimes while performing live which is different than trying to be perfect on vids. He mimes everything
When you say "mime" do you mean lip synching?
Ken himself will benefit more from the hate videos than anyone else. I guarantee it.
I think he's actually going to start losing a lot of business.
No, previously he had a lot of negative videos blocked, can't keep that up when there's an avalanche.
@@ThePoorBoy Sure. Ok. Watch and learn.
Cancelling only works when involving some kind of violent crime. Mostly people will not care for scam, entitlement, lack of transparency and much more. People are just promoting him without knowing it. We have seem this thing happening again and again. Someone who is not so famous become even more famous after doing something awful.
@@yuriperez1221 Exactly. It's good to see someone else who actually gets it.
Some out the videos have been bullying. That being said, Fil (Wings of Pegasus) was just a (scientific?) analysis of the pitch and vocals. Nothing wrong with that. He didn't say Ken could not sing, he was just pointing out that some of his 'live' concerts were lip synced.
Ken did say Freddie Mercury was not a great singer tho. and implied he was better. WTF?
My goodness, you're kind of all over the map with this video. It's not good to criticize others to get views, but Ken's a 'prick' and full of himself and kind of a jerk. Fil, from WINGS OF PEGASUS was the one who did the video exposing Ken's lip-syncing. So people, follow Fil. He doesn't voice his opinion, just does the analysis and let's the results do the talking.
Well Said.
Fil is objective but thorough in his vocal analyses. I have complete respect for Fil, something I can't say about Ken T.
I've been following Fil for 4 1/2 years. He's completely objective and thorough with his approach and honest with his analyses. He analyzes videos by request from his followers. That's how Ken eventually got exposed...not just by Fil but other people. Yet I believe Fil really put this out in the open. I've heard some saying that goes something like, "It's best to be honest because eventually your lies will catch up to you."
ken?
The lips syncing part doesn't matter to me, it's the lying. He's adamant that he's singing live when he's not and that's really what's pissing people off the most. Yesterday he started insulting Fil for an old video from X factor. Like you said, he's a prick.
Thumbnail is hilarious. I remember coming across Ken’s channel years ago and just moving on cause it didn’t feel right. I think I was lead there by searching “how does Chris Cornell hit those high notes.” 😂
@7:20 I feel the same way, ken sounds like he's straining and reaching for notes he shouldn't be. If he stays in his lane like we all should then we'll sound our best
Commenting before watching to let you know your thumbnail is excellent.
Edit: I always love your realistic, measured approach to subjects like this.
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He is a scammer and his method sucks, of course we can have and express an opinion and show the world he is not capable of what he says. Also his actitud has been always bad, this thing he says all the time, if i cant do it, it cant be teach... hello?? of course there is a lot of things he cant do, for example he is unable to scream like Chester, just an example. He also used to say a LOT things like "those other vocal coaches in youtube teaching the wrong way bla bla bla" Like saying his method is the real one. So of course he deserve hate man, im sorry there is a point where you lose respect from people and gain hate, dont be a prick and youll be ok.
This is my first time watching you on RUclips, and you asked our thoughts. My thought is that you sound like a knowledgeable, forthright, and honest artist and I plan to watch more of your videos because those are qualities I admire (which are so rare nowadays). I am also a fan of the channel that started this -- because a viewer asked the opinion of the host and he acceded to this request objectively but the backlash started the controversy (as I understand it). So, I thank you for your explanations and I look forward to checking out much of your other content.
He is lip-synching while he is saying that he is now making a live stream and that is really bad
Hahahaha damn u mentioned it!! I've always thought its just me finding that tongue technique weird and funny😂😂😂.. ayy remember the truth is in the singing 😅😅
I've been trained by vocal coaches, one of them trained opera singers. Not one used a tongue technique. In Ken's case, the truth is in the fakery.
@@glamgal7106 not saying the tongue technique is wrong, if it works for him then good but I just find it funny.. but the guy can actually sing tho and he's no Milli Vanilli either😆
If you're lip syncing, then just admit it. Don't delete videos and bomb other channels with fake comments. I don't know him from Adam, but he comes off being very douchey.
Thing is that we can find lipsynced or heavily edited portions of his vocals on those videos where he is "live" at his studio, where he "proves" his chops.
I started learning singing through Ken Tamplin. Then I started learning with Chris Liepe. So my foundation was through Ken's style. It made me very shouty and I never developed head voice. I didn't really pursue distortion because Ken said it's dangerous without a proper foundation.
I did become decent at singing through Ken's course, but only at chest voice levels. That only goes so far. Tonality wasn't a big part in the beginning and I had a hard time learning. I think Chris Liepe's introspection helped a ton. And mixing videos from you Sterling have helped quite a bit. But like you said it's all a journey. I appreciate your content and honesty.
Ken’s courses have helped me A LOT, healing my voice and getting it back. He’s giving monthly live coaching sessions where he helps students, coaching and demonstrating live (belting, distortion etc). The guy can sing and his method has helped many ppl. He’s even helped me by giving individual feedback how to fix my voice problems. I don’t care whether Ken is lip syncing, I’ve tried his product/course and it works. You say you don’t want to bring him down, but that is exactly what you (and the rest of the mob do).
this shows you have not seen much of him , outside of your experience. it is obvious not a very nice person in general.
@@wout123100 so what is your personal experience with him then? You have any concrete examples that you have seen yourself with your own eyes?
A couple of large RUclips channels have discovered that Ken Tamplin, a man who charges thousands of dollars for his vocal lessons, is not singing when he performs live There is no doubt that Ken is miming or pretending to sing the high notes duringhis recent gig with his band shout.. Marc Ajax and Fil from Wings of Pegasus have done some amazing investigative journalism. Ken might actually be giving unsafe advice that's detrimental to the long-term health of your singing voice. You have been watching and listening to heavily edited studio performances of the more demanding songs that Ken has sang what is deceptiveis that Ken wants you to think that these performances are sung in one live take they are most definitely not live to mic performances. . This is a situation that's still unfolding and is likely to get even more serious.
I got his course as a complete beginner and it did seem to help to build some kind of foundation. Some things you just need to figure out on your own though. I tend to search in many places nowadays.
The distortion thing was never well explained, like you mentioned. I still have zero distortion.
I'd say the course overall was helpful to me. It probably helps if you have a naturally higher voice. I have read a lot of comments from baritones that say they did not get anywhere with KTVA and decided to take other routes.
As for KTs vocals I have personally never liked the sound when he goes high. He should probably stop at a G4 where the tone is still good. When he is singing A4-C5 it often sounds pinchy and unnatural. His Michael Jackson cover (The Way You Make Me Feel) sticks out as particularly terrible. He stated he is a baritone, but he keeps doing light tenor stuff which does not seem to fit his voice at all IMO. He is either pinching or shaving off too much muscle mass so that it sounds unnatural.
He is also full of himself and obsessed with achievements, which is annoying. The fact that he would not come clean on the 2024 miming is really disappointing and negative for the entire KTVA brand.
Engaging in hatred and adding things which are not true just to bash KT does not help either. I think Fil's approach is the best one. Using objective data. Tamplin will not be able to get past that barrier, which is probably the reason why he (so far) hasn't addressed Fil's research directly.
Lip syncing to the same vocal track (he made 34 years ago in 1990) but portraying to the audience that he was singing LIVE in both the 2020 internet feed and in the 2024 onstage performance, has made a lot of people feel that they’ve been scammed.
Dude: you were never patronizing other singers or lying about teaching students to sing better than anyone else... Ken did!
I watched Ken’s RUclips clips from 2015 to 2019 basically, so for about 4 years. And I must admit that a lot of his knowledge about diaphragmatic support, open throat technique, pacing yourself while singing the harder rock songs, how to use a little bit of distortion without hurting the throat etc.. all those things I just mentioned really was beneficial for me and my singing did become stronger over the years, I’m not gonna lie about that.. personally it worked for me. However, I was never particularly a fan of his “voice” so to speak, but I use to really enjoy listening to him explain how to sing certain Foreigner songs or Whitesnake songs, Dio songs and so on.. hence I love 80s hard rock metal and there wasn’t many vocal coaches explaining that style in great depth during that 2015 to 2019 period. Fast forward to 2020, this was when I started to lose some interest in watching Ken’s clips.. was when he started listening to isolated vocals from famous songs and really over analysing them, but started taking it too far and really criticising their vocals. And was saying things like “I would have sung it this way with more distortion” or “I would have sung it more smoother with some vibrato.” Etc. And I’m like “dude, that wouldn’t have worked for the song, if they sung it that way it would have probably sounded crap!” And not to mention, some of those songs that he was over analysing were HIT songs! So who cares if they didn’t use perfect vibrato on certain parts or didn’t use distortion etc. Anyway, that’s my story of exploring Ken’s journey for quite a few years 😅 but I still admire his advice on 80s rock singing and I am grateful that a lot of his implied knowledge had helped me a lot! 🙏🏽
This is by far the most "Human" response Ive heard on this subject... Thanks for the constructive criticism and honesty on the topic. Great stuff and liked and subbed.👍
He's definitely been "Tamplin" with his videos😂😂😂
Hahahaha. First one of these. Well done 😂
3:23 and 3:27 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! I swear, you have STUDIED KT! hahaha oh boy.... see, THIS is why you and others NEED to make these kinds of vids! I got a huge laugh from just those 5 seconds of you impersonating him as he's "singing". KT and his fake dimpled turtle mouth smile he does and when you said "effin doing this" hahahahha. man... I need to see a KT parody video!!!! someone.... hahahaha
Problem is, he is very quick to trash singers, other vocal coaches, vocal methods, AND he continues to deny it. Just own up to it and I think it would die down. He just keeps fanning the flames.
2:00 nah, bro. Everyone has a right to publish their thoughts online, in books, public talks, whatever. I literally cherish the idea of totally free speech because it allows everyone to say what they believe but the prob is that many people cannot do that for fear of being harmed by people who disagree with them on various issues so they keep quiet. I really don't think anyone is doing vids on KT to get views. Seriously. If they did vids on something mega-popular, then okay. KT? please.... so state your stuff and it's all good. After dozens of vids it can seem to be just rehashing or kicking a dead horse but just between you and I..... I wouldn't cry if this topic went viral! haha
Sterling Jackson has to be diplomatic because we know who he is. Most of the 'free speech' that presents as online criticism, hate, whatever is 'free' because it's anonymous. Your opinion may be vaiid, but as TruthSurge, you know that revealing your opinion isn't that totally 'free' when one needs a pseudonym.
"I literally cherish the idea of totally free speech..."
Really? You'd be fine with people spreading baseless lies about you that cost you your job, your family and your friends? Don't think so!
If you are going to lip sync, be honest about it up front. Coaches should always be 100% authentic.
Ken tamplin is a better salesman than he is a singer.
Also some people have long fuses and some people have short fuses and some people just mellow and chill. 🐙 Everybody wants to rule the world from the big chair.
For me, what worked were the la-ah warmups. Well, to an extent. It really helped with expanding my head voice and finding some distortion. However, after a while, I noticed how easily it was tiring me. I mentioned in another comment how I used to push A LOT and try to sound verry big and powerful. I think I got that from him because that seemed like the good approach- his Dio and Coverdale influences became mine too. I had an admiration for Gabriela Guncikova- I think she is his most popular female students still- and he kept emphasizing how he had her to difficult physical exercise then warmups for like 5 to 6 hours a day so that's what I did. I remember once I had a concert and I practiced that whole day before going on stage-yelling false chord distortion, screams, cleans over a full band without a microphone cause "I have to be powerful and project like crazy " and what do you know? Concert comes and I have almost no voice. That happened a few times. I would give it my all for a few hours then bam-another embarassment. Sometimes I would nail it. I remember once nailing 18 and life by Skid Row and since people were giving me compliments I thought I was on the right track. It took another couple years and actually listening critically theough a phone recording to understand how wrong it actually sounded. 😢
I can’t stand that dude. You were too nice in your criticism there.
Well presented, sir. Yup, Fil from Wings of Pegasus did an analysis video per someone’s request (as that’s what he does on his channel) and that seems to have set this ball in motion. My takeaway is that Ken T. needs to learn the old adage “if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!” 😂
Amen to the old adage.
What if it's an escape route underneath something to get out?
@@55Porterthat can take years of digging tho lol and then he finds himself in china? or so? haha
When I've time I watch Fil. I'm also a musician in the uk. Fil is a godsend in an industry where lying, falsehood, fabrication, fraud is the norm and it's so refreshing to see someone of Fil's integrity not to mention his ability as a musician and analyst out there calling people out when they are absolutely ripping us one. From what I can see over the last year or so Fil, in his various analysees has uncovered a whole world of pitch shifting and fabrication amongst even top level performers that is staggering. It's often not the performers behind it but the 'boys in suits' - the record company pulling strings behind the band. Also his technology for discovering this is unimpeachable - it simply cannot be wrong. I sometimes work with that technology (or should I say I frankly often refuse to work with it, especially wih singers!). If you simply want the truth about anything musical ? Fil is your man ...if Fil musically uncovers some dodgy shit about you ? then sorry ...you're guilty.
Ken funnels people into his overpriced course based on deceit. That's not the usual RUclipsr beef, it's consumer information.
The greatest singing teacher who ever lived would still be grossly overcharging at $750 and hour, because there’s no way you’re going to glean anything substantial in a single lesson, and a single lesson is the most people are going to be able to afford.
Very true
I’ll be honest i bought his course and have been practicing it every other day for three years…
I have seen improvement vocally compared to before i started singing with the course. I just used the scales to warm up for singing. Now I’m wanting to explore Daniel Tompkin’s and maybe Sterling’s stuff to see how much improvement I’ll see from a truthful vocalist, one who can perform what I actually admire. Cool you pointed that out, thanks 🙏🏻
to fully know for a fact that you have improved , you might have to seek an outside consultation ,so hire a professional singer , not a vocal coach & pay them to evaluate your level or the best way to know for a fact that you are good, when you see an ad for a singer in a band or cover band audition & if you get hired you know you are good enough & accept what they tell you. Think in terms of like going on America's got talent.. you need to be evaluated. you need professional evaluation at this point. it's very possible you think you have made improvements because you convinced yourself & your improvements might be subjective
when we sign up for a music school we have to audition & get evaluated & thus far we have to accept their expert opinion.
Have you done this yet?
I don’t think anyone is doing anything wrong by outing KT, they are contributing to an ethical society.
He is misleading people, I’d even say he’s conning them.
He can sing, just not like the recordings he uses. He’s not in his 20’s, he’s an almost 60 year old man who isn’t sure how to reinvent himself. He needs to reassess his current range & work on that, which means transposing all his music to suit his range.
Yes you are right, he is singing so overzealously because it is out of his range & he’s maxed out.
He's over 60 now!
The world needs people like Ken. It makes for great comedy.
I don't like kens voice either, to much dio impersonation
Funny thing is: He sounds nothing like Dio 😅
Dio sounded very round, elastic and even kinda feminine at times, especially when he sang softer.
And I really love Ronnie's voice.
@@RaffaelWindgassen Tru, Ken is trying to hard, your correct
Never took lessons from him, but his program helped me a lot. I was a total beginner. Never had any experience with vocal exercises before, and his program sort of gave me a foundation to build from. Voice grew like crazy and started getting compliments at church for my voice.
Not saying it works for everyone, but it worked for me. If people have had bad experiences with him, then that is unfortunate. I like his program and would recommend it to beginners to build their foundation.
I bought a month trial of Ken’s course for $1 but cancelled it. He’s clearly very arrogant and very vain but I was willing to ignore that if it meant making some progress with him. Unfortunately I didn’t. As you alluded to in your video, his scales worked well as a warm up but that’s about the extent of it. I saw a comment in another video that mentioned a kind of cult vibe going on with him which is the exactly what sprung to my mind too. Glad I only lost a dollar
He, very cleverly in fact, did admit to lip syncing in that recent show. It's a subtle admission. Personally, I think there are money backers behind him. I don't think badly of him because I believe there are investors behind the scenes he has to answer to. I backed off watching his videos because he seems more concerned lately with promoting his female students doing covers.
I agree with the no hate thing, but when he profits from and hates on the likes of Freddie Mercury and claims his technique helps preserve the voice, that makes him a bit of a prick.
His lip-synching is what preserves his voice.
Tamplin is so full of himself it's ridiculous. I'm not a professional on the subject, yet I do think the guy has some vocals skills-to an extend at least-but the whole "cool wannabe legend rockstar" is giving me so much second hand embarrassment. His mannerisms and whole attitude is really annoying. Also, man... the tongue thing always pissed me off, for some reason...
Great video! This really could apply to any youtube instruction videos honestly. Like you said, it's the internet, so anything goes. Keep doing what you are doing! Found your videos when I was working on my own cover of "Like a Stone" a long time ago and followed off and on since. Also, your song Colostrum is one of my favorite vibes lately. 🤘
Thank you 😊
That's hilarious, "it goes against my morals and standards to make a negative comment bashing on someone", and then proceeds to bash on someone. I guess your morals are about as fake as Ken Tamplin's videos.
I did a lesson with him in about 2016 and I got this sense that he had a huge ego. I also felt like it was kind of suspicious that right off the bat he apologized for his voice not being up to par due to fires near his home or being sick. I can’t remember which one it was. Another thing which I found a bit off was that he asked me what I found useful from a previous teacher of mine (Ron Anderson) and when I was answering his question he cut me off and told me to stop. He also told me to flex my abs really hard like I was doing a sit up while holding back my airflow and being super nasal and bright. This never felt right to me to be so tense. I tried his methods but I just could never feel right flexing my abs so hard while singing. I bought his course and tried his methods for years despite not liking Ken’s sound. I honestly think my voice got a lot better sounding when I stopped practicing scales and thinking so much about technique and rather focusing on the sounds I wanted to make regardless of whether I’d hurt myself or not. I dont wanna shit on anyone but this is my honest experience.
Ahh sorry man. It’s amazing to hear from people consistently that he seemed pompous and arrogant during lessons especially at such a high price point. Glad you found your way regardless 😊
I could never learn from that guy. Way too into himself
I personally want to thank Ken for giving us a fun, low-stakes internet drama for me to escape this crazy, scary world right now. Between wars, hurricanes, elections, chemical fires...I can't believe people care this much about all this, but, yeah, I needed this. I'm watching all the content. Thank you!
I bought his course years ago and it has helped. My voice has improved quite a bit. My sound is more forward and my pitch, range, and stamina have gotten better. However, I'm still a baritone. There are certain notes I just can't hit no matter how much I work on it. I'm a worship leader and there's not much need for me to sing with a lot of distortion, so I haven't put anything into trying this.
His response video didn't help at all. It seemed like he was deflecting and defending himself against arguments that hadn't even been made. Nobody ever said that he couldn't sing at all or that he was lip synching everything. I've been a big fan of his for years, so this has been a real disappointment.
What notes can't you hit? I ask because I was under the "baritone curse" mindset for so long (discovered I'm actually a lyrical spinto tenor) and didn't think life existed after G#4.
@@TomCristoforo Prior to starting the vocal course, I was stuck around G4. In isolation, I can hit up to about an E5 (if warmed up) or maybe an F5 (on a really good day). One of his level 2 workouts goes up to F#5, which I don't think I've ever been able to hit.
As far as what I'd feel comfortable singing live while playing the guitar, I probably wouldn't try anything above an A4.
You’re not clout chasing - you’re providing expert information / critique on a current topic in your field. Ken is a public figure making huge claims - he needs to be checked by people in his industry - who else can help protect the consumer? It’s almost your responsibility to say something - thank you!
On a side note, I also bought Ken’s course. And as you may remember, I have paid for your evaluations.
I got more out of your 15 minute evaluation than Ken’s entire course. You also totally woke me up about how bad my production was.
You may not have 2 million subscribers but you’re having huge impacts helping artists. I just released a full album and you helped me find my proper voice and get the production levels to professional standards - I’m sure there are thousands of people you’ve helped or inspired in some small but impactful way you will never even know about.
So I wanted you to know!
Thanks.
Hey Brad. That’s awesome! Congrats. I appreciate the kind words man. 😊
Waiting for him to drop a video about how bad Arnel Pineda sings, and that gosh, maybe he should have taken that Journey gig after all. 😃
Glad I didn't buy his course, I torrented it, couldn't get past the warmup and deleted it. lol
I haven’t taken the KT course or any vocal course, my cousin is in a band and he took the KT course and he said it helped him a lot with his singing voice.
Honestly kens videos helped me out a lot when i was starting but i never bought his course. I also watched a lot of you and chris liepe and took in as much information as i could about the different ways to do things. I definitely dont think hes a hack but i wouldnt take lessons from anyone because i enjoyed figuring things out myself and feeling the progress. You, chris, and ken all helped me hit notes i thought were impossible for me but are now easy. So thanks for that!
A vocal coach faking it himself? That’s just not cool 🤦♂️
There are 2 channels trolling Ken daily and even hourly. Not Pegasus.
Didn’t say he was. I pinned a comment to help remind people that I wasnt commenting on this guy Fil. Don’t even know him. Wasn’t saying negative things about him.
@@SterlingRJackson I was supporting what you said. I wasn't calling you out. Seems like a lot of people here think you're talking about Pegasus but these other guys are frankly just looking to hurt people.
@@Sthunderrockerpeople using the internet to hurt others?? No way haha.
@@Sthunderrockeryeah you're right. I was okay with marc ajax first two videos about ken but he is making his channel all about Ken now. Marc Ajax reminds me of Jake Paul that won't stop trolling until the person commits suicide and still laughs about it. Marc also bans users comments that won't support his claim. My comment never gets posted in any of his videos.
@@SthunderrockerKen is a poser, a one trick pony belter with an okayish singing course that benifits some intermediate level singers. But marc is no saint, he is exploding with so many videos on Ken's topic, and his subreddit kentamplinexposed is some 200 members constantly discussing about Ken every single hour of their lives. Marc definitely has that Logan Paul - Jake Paul ish syndrome. And the other account where they mock of ken being narcissist, that channel uploads shorts hourly. I'm guessing that's also marc ajax with alternative account.
I saw SHOUT/Ken Tamplin twice at the Cornerstone Festival near Chicago. The only vocals were backing vocals_keyboards. Ken was singing live Both Times.
Totally agree with you.
Thank you for your very balanced and insightful video!
15 years ago, I almost bought his course. Glad I didn't. I sing Karaoke (ok laugh) and I just wanted to use my vocal cords correctly. I bought a cheap dvd from a guy in Florida named Gil Magno. His lessons worked like a charm. Gil was an ex-Flamenco guitar player who sang and injured his hand and decided to teach singing. I don't even know if he's still with us.
Not having the audio on for the first 10 seconds was oddly cruel, man.
I restarted this four times because I thought my youtube was glitching out. 🤣
Haha! Sorry I fixed it. Been sick for a while. Not remembering shit. 😑
@@SterlingRJackson I'm finishing the video as I type this.
I love your approach to this topic, very stoic and logical without pointing fingers, placing blame, or pushing vitriol.
One of his fake accounts (one created just four days prior) lashed out at me and challenged me to a sing off to prove who was better.
I'm self taught, yet with occasional help from hearing Chris Leipe and The Charismatic Voice describe how to find things within my voice.
I then perfect what I learn by stepping out and doing karaoke. Live experience is SUCH A GREAT teacher, every flub can contain a lesson.
@@insanejugheadyeah singing live can be such a different experience. You can take YEARS of practice and go on stage and have it all disappear in seconds haha. It’s really the best teacher in ways but that’s because it’s so do or die. Intense stuff but… best way to work things out sometimes and really dial them in.
My problem is not with Ken lip syncing in itself, but the fact that he is clearly extremely arrogant and critises legends such as Freddy Mercury and Joe Cocker as if they had no idea what they were doing.
I would never take lessons from any vocal coach unless he or she has won a few Grammys and has gold records on the wall. In my opinion, that is the gold standard of being a vocal coach. One rule I have for any vocal coach is they must prove to me they can sing live in the same room with me, raw, without any fancy mics, interfaces, or effects-just sing raw! And take me on tour and let me watch the performance live.
Deep down, I don’t trust any vocal coach because those people are a dime a dozen on RUclips. I’m not impressed with any vocal coach at all. I’ve also been around music for most of my life, so I have been inside the studio, and I have watched performers sing from inside the booth. It was for real, and if it wasn’t right, they would do take after take until it was just right. This was all done before the advent of Auto-Tune and voice-correcting software.
As a matter of fact, and this is based on my opinion, we don’t have any real great singers; we have singers, but not great singers. Most modern-day singers sing one note. Many pop singers and females sing like this, and whatever errors are established in the studio during the recordings are corrected with an audio tuner. So in summary, most singers just can’t really sing.
It’s laughable how so many vocal coaches on RUclips jumped on the Ken bandwagon. I find it laughable, and most of those clowns can’t even sing. I told this one dude who was trolling Ken, “If you are so good, why are you on RUclips? Why aren’t you producing music? Where are your Grammys?” Most coaches, in my opinion, are just Grifters in my opinion
Based on my experience in the music world and in the booth, I have never met a great singer-just OK singers with basic techniques that are good enough to produce a one-note song.
I discovered Ken's channel over a decade ago and since the beginning I noticed he was lip syncing in all of his "how to sing like. . ." videos lessons.
love your desk setup, you should do a video on gear
The channel of the guy that did the analysis does analysis videos for his entire youtube channel. Usually folks request to see if certain songs or performances are pitch corrected (or not). But, he tends to keep his videos fairly objective. He's done at least one video of another vocal teacher that had some lip syncing in videos. And he went out of his way to find a non-lip synced video to show the teacher was a good teacher and could sing, as well as showed some of her students singing very well, so she was obviously a good vocal coach. I think the thing where he starts to be more subjective is if the performer is lying.