Dragon Ball GTFS Commentary | Episodes 41-43

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    THE DEAD SPEAK, SCIENTISTS MAKE FRIENDS, AND ANDROIDS HAVE KI! WILL THE MADNESS EVER END?!
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  • @FourStarBento
    @FourStarBento  3 месяца назад +55

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    • @tracyndiyob162
      @tracyndiyob162 3 месяца назад

      okay with that 17(they really wasted him the hardest in gt.) having another body in cell logic there should be another 16.
      do find funny the gt timeline is also where the movies happened.(at least in super it can be explained vegeta got stronger enough to use energy in his final attack/actually wasn't completely uselessly pointless doing something.)

    • @trevorromein14
      @trevorromein14 3 месяца назад +4

      26:06 THAT FUCKING FACE!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

    • @notoriousss247
      @notoriousss247 3 месяца назад +1

      Support the official release

    • @John_EMIYA_Miller
      @John_EMIYA_Miller 3 месяца назад +2

      "Don't call a silver lining, silver's too valuable."
      That line goes harder than it has any right too. Lmao.

    • @AnthonyJohnson-nf4ue
      @AnthonyJohnson-nf4ue 3 месяца назад +1

      I greatly appreciate lanny's ads, unlike other RUclips channels you put effort into them which makes them worth watching.

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly 3 месяца назад +435

    I'm convinced Super actually made 17 important because someone on the team hated this arc with a passion.

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX 3 месяца назад +44

      I struggle to call this an arc

    • @silverselkie1692
      @silverselkie1692 3 месяца назад +62

      Man, this really does make me love everything they've done with 17 after this.

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. 3 месяца назад +29

      Revisiting 17 after post-Cell saga was always a gold mine.

    • @PinkieBen
      @PinkieBen 3 месяца назад +27

      And whoever they were, I thank them for doing so.

    • @arpadszabo661
      @arpadszabo661 3 месяца назад +18

      Well, important for the tournament of power and a punching bag for Moro and has yet to appear again in the manga since then. Still better than this though.

  • @sodapopinski8064
    @sodapopinski8064 3 месяца назад +18

    Happy for Kaiser now that he's embracing the madness.
    It's probably just a survival instinct kicking in, but hey, whatever works!

  • @gigawhopper
    @gigawhopper 2 месяца назад +2

    I gotta say. I love Nies' notes. You really feel him apart of the commentary lol.

  • @discaredcashmaz7360
    @discaredcashmaz7360 3 месяца назад +1

    Episode 41 is my favorite episode just because Buu and Uub’s conversation is emotional.

  • @greenrockgirl5150
    @greenrockgirl5150 2 месяца назад

    Lani’s reaction to the off model cell made me laugh so hard for some reason

  • @MrPerfect2000Z
    @MrPerfect2000Z 3 месяца назад +1

    God I remember hearing about Frieza and Cell coming back in this arc and getting so excited as a kid.

  • @tracyndiyob162
    @tracyndiyob162 3 месяца назад +2

    find funny in hindsight frieza and cell hate each others guts compared to working together in gt.(that's the same thing i questioned back then with baby not being there.)
    really love the concept of the villains escaping hell just wish it wasn't wasted twice as they really could have fun with the z fighters going against older villains(especially pan pinballing the red ribbon army/would've liked raditz & nappa changing sides though find funny buu bits in hindsight explained tfs nappa in gt.)

  • @marzgamingmaster
    @marzgamingmaster 3 месяца назад

    I am hoping that the twist for HIFL is that Raditz DID come back to earth with the others, but just... Left. They didn't make him go back to HIFL because he got out and just tried to make a nice new life for himself and Gaz and Mez recognize that that means he changed.

  • @OathKeeperRiku07
    @OathKeeperRiku07 3 месяца назад +1

    15:36 Kaiser internally screaming

  • @Shenn3165
    @Shenn3165 3 месяца назад

    Raditz was taken out by farmer with a shotgun, he finally got his revenge!

  • @skybolt6515
    @skybolt6515 3 месяца назад

    As someone with a Jewish mother, Kaiser’s impression is 100% accurate

  • @sonario6080
    @sonario6080 3 месяца назад

    U guys better mention super 17
    90% pulling his swagger hair back

  • @akkristor
    @akkristor 3 месяца назад +1

    If King Kai gets sick while dead, does that mean viruses and bacterias go to the afterlife too? Could someone use Shenron to wish back the Black Plague?

  • @ValiareTheForsaken01
    @ValiareTheForsaken01 3 месяца назад +1

    Lani, you had me at "organic being."

  • @frodidge
    @frodidge 2 месяца назад

    I’m probably never going to purchase one of your sponser’s products but God Damn your ads are fucking perfect 😂 if I made more money they’d be getting it.

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 3 месяца назад

    I thought you guys were essentially explaining Dr. Gero's little plot hole via HIFL.

  • @Bladebrent
    @Bladebrent 2 месяца назад

    But where does this fit in the HFIL timeline is my question. I know Nie's pointed out Raditz was there, but the HFIL version of him just deciding to NOT go to earth despite having the opportunity to seems really in character. I just imagine him drinking a coffee like "yeah no. I go out there, I get jobbered immediately. I'm just gonna take the day off"

  • @GRAVEKNIGHTVALEN
    @GRAVEKNIGHTVALEN 3 месяца назад

    I could believe that myuu, having created baby's body (bio artificial body), and gero, having cybernetics experience , could recreate a fully robotic 17 with some sort of artificial soul.(or memories?) Sadly the writers either didn't or couldn't do it in an interesting way, so Hell Fighter 17 just kinda exists.(?)

  • @areoborg
    @areoborg 3 месяца назад +165

    Goku: Oh no! I'm trapped in hell!
    Dende (watching from the lookout): Hasn't he teleported out of hell before?
    Mr Popo: Goku's an idiot.

    • @justinpullen1097
      @justinpullen1097 3 месяца назад +16

      Like, I know they wanted to save Super Saiyan 4 for the 17 fight, but come on.

    • @Saxdude26
      @Saxdude26 3 месяца назад +19

      Technically he went there a second time to watch Pikkon obliterate Frieza and Cell. i.e. THEY'VE BEEN BEATEN HERE BEFORE!
      And if we're going off movie villains reappearing, Goku's been in hell a THIRD time for the Janemba movie.
      So the GT appearance is AT MINIMUM the fourth time he's been here. Come the brick on Goku! XD

    • @Drumicall
      @Drumicall 3 месяца назад +2

      It was explained in GT

  • @tunnelcrawlerwaluigi2690
    @tunnelcrawlerwaluigi2690 3 месяца назад +642

    Watching Kaiser’s face drop when Lani points out that Android 17 having Ki makes no sense was so fucking funny

    • @DragonBallUniversity
      @DragonBallUniversity 3 месяца назад +69

      …..That’s-

    • @ashe9112
      @ashe9112 3 месяца назад +38

      His face reminded me of the Limmy skit where he's insisting that a kg steel weighs more than a kg feathers

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 3 месяца назад +10

      I had to pause for my laughter when that happened. It was just... *chef's kiss*

    • @TimsGamesDoneHard
      @TimsGamesDoneHard 3 месяца назад +14

      Scott's nerd brain just went into overdrive

    • @bearlycute6427
      @bearlycute6427 3 месяца назад +15

      I imagine both doctors arguing because Dr. Myuu didn't add the Ki nullifier to Hell's 17 and Gero is mad at him for ruining it, "LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE, now Son Goku will quickly find him and demolish him with all this evil ki! Now I have to repair Android 19 for this..."

  • @dragonmasterxyz3544
    @dragonmasterxyz3544 3 месяца назад +243

    Super 17 makes me appreciate SUPER 17 a lot more than I already did.

    • @offthedeepend3996
      @offthedeepend3996 3 месяца назад +35

      SUPER 17 is actually a character, with his own motivations.

    • @henchme976
      @henchme976 3 месяца назад +19

      NOBODY CAN BEAT ME WHEN I'M SUPER(?) 17!

  • @TyrantPope
    @TyrantPope 3 месяца назад +197

    TFS version:
    Nappa: "Hi Vegeta! - immediately dies
    Ghost Nappa: "Aww!"

    • @repulser93
      @repulser93 3 месяца назад +28

      Nappa is gonna take a cue from “Juan Sanchez” - take on a new identity post-(second) resurrection, collect on the life insurance policy.

    • @Makocat
      @Makocat 3 месяца назад +13

      Nappa: Hi Vegeta.
      *blast*
      Ghost nappa: Bye Vegeta

    • @theradionicrevival8068
      @theradionicrevival8068 3 месяца назад +12

      Napa: VEGETA WHY-
      Vegeta: because I'm a
      ✨earthling~✨

    • @lordyathnon
      @lordyathnon 3 месяца назад +1

      Sadly they wouldn't do Ghost Nappa. For some reason they think it wasn't funny

    • @spiro3142
      @spiro3142 3 месяца назад +13

      @@lordyathnondid you not watch the Buu bits?

  • @13Lion
    @13Lion 3 месяца назад +776

    Gero: I built another 17 in hell
    Myuu: How?
    Gero: Well I…huh, how DID I do that?

    • @zenvendaboi4217
      @zenvendaboi4217 3 месяца назад +145

      IN A CAVE...
      WITH BOX OF SCRAPS!

    • @eljoel89
      @eljoel89 3 месяца назад +65

      Adequate with robotics.

    • @TuskyBaby
      @TuskyBaby 3 месяца назад +34

      I clapped because I understood the reference

    • @Hypersaiyanike
      @Hypersaiyanike 3 месяца назад +43

      Well you got me. By all accounts it doesn't make sense.

    • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
      @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 3 месяца назад +12

      "I just felt like it!"

  • @JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
    @JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache 3 месяца назад +290

    I really wish Frieza and Cell saw Goku in Super Saiyan 4, just so they knew that they were 100% outclassed.

    • @anthonygarland8839
      @anthonygarland8839 3 месяца назад +48

      Frieza and cell did see SSJ3 in the Majin Buu arc they're were scared shitless on how strong he's gotten

    • @pasty188
      @pasty188 3 месяца назад +3

      @@anthonygarland8839 because the movies are coming into GT and people forget that and the filler is canon to GT

    • @anthonygarland8839
      @anthonygarland8839 3 месяца назад +8

      @@pasty188 just an wild idea where was Z broly at? He got killed by Goku I was surprised he didn't show up during the chaos on earth

    • @pasty188
      @pasty188 3 месяца назад +3

      @@anthonygarland8839 some movie canon and some are not and some are because the writer forgot

    • @anthonygarland8839
      @anthonygarland8839 7 дней назад

      @@pasty188 I was hoping he would show up

  • @eljoel89
    @eljoel89 3 месяца назад +909

    Kaiser: That black ki looks sick.
    Lani: Yes. That Android. With his ki.
    Kaiser: Wait...

    • @R0-83-RT
      @R0-83-RT 3 месяца назад +53

      Funniest part of the video imo 😂

    • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231
      @thomastakesatollforthedark2231 3 месяца назад +30

      Pollution-Ki

    • @aarongaray2595
      @aarongaray2595 3 месяца назад +79

      That look after Kaiser realizes that Androids don't have Ki is priceless 🤣🤣

    • @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement
      @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement 3 месяца назад +26

      ​@@aarongaray2595
      Except that Super 17 is half Cyborg and half Machine Mutant.
      And Machine Mutants do possess Ki.

    • @helixsol7171
      @helixsol7171 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement
      Exactly

  • @zenvendaboi4217
    @zenvendaboi4217 3 месяца назад +300

    15:31 GT in a f***ing nutshell 🤣
    _"Oh that's kinda sick"_
    _"Wait that makes no f***ing sense!"_

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 3 месяца назад +58

      _"Wait, why did this go absolutely nowhere?"_

    • @IRocaNox
      @IRocaNox 3 месяца назад +59

      _"That's really dumb. But h-he's so cool! But that's so dumb!"_

    • @Nyahahameha
      @Nyahahameha 3 месяца назад +32

      _"How did you know about the parts you weren't there for?"_

    • @maxithalo7796
      @maxithalo7796 3 месяца назад +3

      its like reading most marvel comics lmao

    • @coltondecker5091
      @coltondecker5091 2 месяца назад +1

      Don’t care better than purple Vegeta 😂

  • @Jam-og1km
    @Jam-og1km 3 месяца назад +219

    "Where's Baby?"
    "Still in queue"
    Perfect: no notes

  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 3 месяца назад +152

    Goku riding the Destructo disk is one of my favourite scenes from gt

  • @toonamidemon2519
    @toonamidemon2519 3 месяца назад +89

    I like to imagine that when Gero "got his body back," it was human, and he had to do the cyborg procedure on himself all over again in Hell. 😂

    • @InSanic13
      @InSanic13 3 месяца назад +13

      So THAT'S why he rebuilt #19!

    • @tsubakiakamaru8660
      @tsubakiakamaru8660 3 месяца назад +13

      That's actually legit upon death he would of been in soul form going through the check in stations. He totally had re-cyborize himself

    • @InSanic13
      @InSanic13 3 месяца назад +6

      @@tsubakiakamaru8660 Come to think of it, there were filler scenes in the DBZ anime showing that Frieza had been de-cyborged, so GT would've been going off of that. Of course, DBS now indicates that Frieza _was_ still a cyborg in Hell (and I think it's noted in the manga that people's bodies often come back the way they were when revived by the Dragon Balls, so it makes sense).

  • @AutovoltGTS
    @AutovoltGTS 3 месяца назад +145

    Funny you guys mention the Japanese voice for Buu sounds like Gonzo.....cause Kozo Shioya (Buu's seiyuu) is the Japanese voice of Gonzo in Muppets.

    • @TheIdiotHimself42
      @TheIdiotHimself42 3 месяца назад +8

      Whaaaaaaaaaaa

    • @faceurhell
      @faceurhell 3 месяца назад +25

      I am now imagining Majin Gonzo.

    • @malachiatkinson7245
      @malachiatkinson7245 3 месяца назад +2

      Does "seiyuu" just mean voice actor? And if so, why not just say that?

    •  3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@malachiatkinson7245and 'manga' just means 'comic'.

    • @malachiatkinson7245
      @malachiatkinson7245 3 месяца назад

      Yes, but comics are art, voice acting is a job. There are inherent structural differences between manga and Western comics. But voice acting is voice acting

  • @Ethan-Hensley
    @Ethan-Hensley 3 месяца назад +117

    “In Hell I learned a new trick.
    I know how to use Ki.”
    “How’d you do that?”
    “Idunno.”

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 3 месяца назад +105

    14:32 Gohan: Hey dad did see this Hell hole outside
    Kid Goku: that not nice Gohan the world isn’t a hell hole

    • @EWOODJ
      @EWOODJ 3 месяца назад +2

      Poor naive Goku

  • @kirake2020
    @kirake2020 3 месяца назад +96

    Honestly, I would have loved to see Gohan kill Raditz. The guy who kidnapped Gohan as a toddler and led to his fathers death, to now being significantly weaker than him and one-shoted. Basically the Frieza scene in Fusion Reborn.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 3 месяца назад +7

      I would like to see Yamcha beat down Raditz. There's no emotional arc but still!

    • @xyenia0122
      @xyenia0122 3 месяца назад +2

      He was already weaker than Gohan when he died

    • @PinkieBen
      @PinkieBen 3 месяца назад +10

      @@specialnewb9821 They could have at least given us Yamcha beating up Saibamen

    • @SeruraRenge11
      @SeruraRenge11 3 месяца назад +5

      @@xyenia0122 ...no, even at the strongest Gohan got when angry in that fight, Raditz was still stronger than him. He just didn't see that flying headbutt coming.

    • @xyenia0122
      @xyenia0122 3 месяца назад +1

      @@SeruraRenge11 Raditz is 1200, Gohan was 1307

  • @MatthewCSnow
    @MatthewCSnow 3 месяца назад +402

    Ah the “we ran out of ideas so we’re playing the hits” arc

    • @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p
      @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p 3 месяца назад +22

      At least, they had the good sense of not giving Freeza a Golden form...

    • @zacharygroysman279
      @zacharygroysman279 3 месяца назад +2

      What hits, there were no hits leading up to this😂

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. 3 месяца назад +44

      @@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p Im gonna be real with ya. Freeza achieving a Golden transformation with the intent of mocking Super Saiyan and how their races are about transformations makes more sense than most of the stuff we are witnessing in the Super 17 arc.
      Even if its bs/lazy. Which says a lot more about GT really.

    • @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p
      @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p 3 месяца назад +2

      @@JayceCH. Is that the official reason they gave for Golden Freeza? Either way, it manages to look both cheap and horrible; even GT had better character design than that.

    • @amonsteriguess1033
      @amonsteriguess1033 3 месяца назад +10

      ​@@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p dolltaki

  • @Themetalwookie666
    @Themetalwookie666 3 месяца назад +294

    Kaiser: Who let him build this?
    Guru: I'll let him build his android.

  • @SammieWeiss
    @SammieWeiss 3 месяца назад +202

    All I can say is this to the ad, "Careful Nick, your Vegeta is showing."

    • @bluesbest1
      @bluesbest1 3 месяца назад +8

      He does an _amazing_ Unhinged Persona.

    • @seazonegranec
      @seazonegranec 3 месяца назад +1

      You know... you're not wrong..

  • @jasonbrander4595
    @jasonbrander4595 3 месяца назад +84

    Seeing Kaiser struggling to finish this is the best and Lani is just soaking it in.

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 3 месяца назад

      👌 in every way

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson 3 месяца назад +4

      I am excited for the Taka cut

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 3 месяца назад

      ​@@PraisethesunsonTaka: Hahaha I didn't fucking watch this crap. Suck it Lanny and Kaiser!

  • @RTheu2109
    @RTheu2109 3 месяца назад +77

    15:34
    Kaiser - With his black ki, that's kinda sick
    Lani - With his KI
    Kaiser - "data not found"

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 3 месяца назад +8

      It's such a weird thing... 18 learns a KI-BASED attack from Krillin when he teaches her to do Destructo-disk.
      Androids DO have what is more-or-less ki. Heck at the end of Z we see 17 and 18 lend Goku power for the Spirit Bomb!
      So they DO have ki! It's just harder to sense than normal ki. Heck, the black aura isn't even the first time 17 had an aura in combat.

    • @hillbillypowpow
      @hillbillypowpow 2 месяца назад +2

      "But how can he just MAKE another 17? He's a cyborg, where'd the human body come from?"
      "Data not found"

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 месяца назад +1

      @@hillbillypowpow the secodn 17 is a Machine Mutant... and thus 0% Human.

    • @hillbillypowpow
      @hillbillypowpow Месяц назад

      @@marhawkman303 I have no idea what that means

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Месяц назад

      @@hillbillypowpow When Gero and Myuu create a duplicate of Android 17 to fuse with the original Android 17... the duplicate is a Machine Mutant.... like Rilldo. The dupe looks Human... but only on the outside.

  • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
    @SchneeflockeMonsoon 3 месяца назад +204

    Raditz was content with Girlfriend Snake, he didn’t want to come back to life.

    • @sintanan469
      @sintanan469 3 месяца назад +57

      He was impressed she hunted the bear hands with her bare hands.

    • @ShadowKamehameha32
      @ShadowKamehameha32 3 месяца назад +34

      ​@@sintanan469 IT'S A PUN!

    • @DarthMolgy
      @DarthMolgy 3 месяца назад +20

      Zarbon is the one dating Princess Snake. Raditz is dating Dodoria.

    • @grigorirasputin996
      @grigorirasputin996 3 месяца назад +10

      ​@DarthMolgy no way Zarbon is in a throuple with Goz and Mez

    • @Saxdude26
      @Saxdude26 3 месяца назад +3

      @@DarthMolgy Harukanaru Densetsu implies it's Raditz and he becomes Princess Snake's suitor

  • @greattobaganman4703
    @greattobaganman4703 3 месяца назад +72

    1:32 This is what i imagine when i hear the quote "For every person who dreams up the electric light bulb, there's the one who dreams up the atom bomb" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @RetroIsaac
      @RetroIsaac 2 месяца назад

      Aint that Shark Boy and Lava Girl 😭

  • @Quantum_Mottle
    @Quantum_Mottle 3 месяца назад +679

    Thank you for watching GT and producing a comedic summary so I don’t actually have to watch it. I salute you.

    • @trailersforfun2669
      @trailersforfun2669 3 месяца назад +41

      This, and the Tenkaichi games have been my only exposure to GT, and now having watched these reviews, I’m really glad they were

    • @PatLund
      @PatLund 3 месяца назад +20

      I've watched it a bunch of times. It's not as bad as they make it out to be. It's not great, but it's fun for what it is.

    • @Ethan-Hensley
      @Ethan-Hensley 3 месяца назад +32

      @@PatLund No it’s actually very bad. Don’t give it excuses cause it’s “Dragon Ball.”

    • @songoku2711
      @songoku2711 3 месяца назад +29

      ​@PatLund GT is really bad. I'd watch Super over GT any day of the week.

    • @mrbrex95
      @mrbrex95 3 месяца назад +8

      Gt and super are crap tbh

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 3 месяца назад +40

    10:16 to 10:30 Just another example of Lani & Kaiser making GT Abridged without even realizing it.

  • @bearerofbadnews1375
    @bearerofbadnews1375 3 месяца назад +103

    I remember this arc where the past villains came back. It felt like a worse version of “Fusion reborn.”

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 3 месяца назад +16

      Like bringing the villains back is a tall order to begin with, but doing it like this? Terrible. I hate it. 18 is the only somewhat good part of this arc.

    • @anthonygarland8839
      @anthonygarland8839 3 месяца назад +13

      Im honestly surprised that Z broly didn't show up at all I was expecting him too

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. 3 месяца назад +2

      This coulda been an expanded upon Fusion Reborn. Which woulda been really really cool. Man...

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 3 месяца назад

      @@JayceCH. I actually hated the core plot of Fusion Reborn though.

    • @SonicmaniaVideos
      @SonicmaniaVideos 3 месяца назад +1

      The core plot of Fusion Reborn...is just that an ogre was made evil.
      This just stole the B-plot of Fusion Reborn.

  • @nearsighteddolphin4966
    @nearsighteddolphin4966 3 месяца назад +299

    That sponsor opening is further proof that everyone looks good in a lab coat

    • @Yakshimara
      @Yakshimara 3 месяца назад +19

      Even better when taking in nutrients without ever refreshing the hydration of their ocular organs via the process known as 'blinking' whilst giving a creepy, yet confidently attractively intense, staring at the functioning camera.

    • @OrificeHorus
      @OrificeHorus 3 месяца назад +5

      "I never thought I'd live to see a Resonance Cascade, let alone cause one!"

    • @Deamons64
      @Deamons64 3 месяца назад +11

      It's also further proof that they're low key pimping out Lani a little bit, and it's hilarious that he's all for it.

    • @wickedgood3793
      @wickedgood3793 3 месяца назад

      Hey Lani is a sexy bitch the coat has nothing to do with that.

    • @MedTech37572
      @MedTech37572 3 месяца назад +1

      Can confirm that they are slimming

  • @Haysey_Draws
    @Haysey_Draws 3 месяца назад +39

    I remember watching this when i was younger thinking the old villians should have been longer and used to keep the Z fighters busy (give them actual personalities and fights) while earth 17 should have still been good, but drawn to Hell 17. They then have a fight and fuse, rather then "oh they are both evil now, and all the villains are dead" just a lot of missed opportunities... probably due to time

    • @Vegas242
      @Vegas242 3 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, that would've been a really cool way to do it honestly

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Vegas242 Yeah if it had twice the length that would have been sweet.

  • @codrin222
    @codrin222 3 месяца назад +51

    18:23 In a (I think filler?) scene in DBZ it's shown Dabura is actually sent to Heaven as his punishment because he would enjoy hell too much. So it technically makes sense why he doesn't appear in GT.

    • @Ethan-Hensley
      @Ethan-Hensley 3 месяца назад +5

      But because it’s GT. It makes MORE sense they would forget that and he would be on earth destroying everything.

    • @denickart
      @denickart 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@@Ethan-Hensley Forgetting filler is one thing GT doesn't do. They literally just used a plot device from Garlic Jr saga to resolve the last arc

    • @sanninmusic212
      @sanninmusic212 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@denickartthat water was around since DB

    • @denickart
      @denickart 3 месяца назад +5

      @@sanninmusic212 The Ultra Divine Water from DB is different.

    • @bearlycute6427
      @bearlycute6427 3 месяца назад +10

      Dabura: well you can put me in hell all you want, I will rule there!
      King Yenma: Not this time, I've learned my lesson with Demon King Piccolo and Freeza, I've decided to put you somewhere where you'll never take over
      Dabura: take over where? **got sent to heaven** hey what the hell is this place!?
      Grandpa Gohan: oh you finally made it brother!
      Dabura: who the hell are you?
      Gine: we're just about to do a play where destroying planets hurts you deep inside, come join us
      G. Gohan: you're here forever
      Dabura: No! Noooo!!!

  • @GammaRayven
    @GammaRayven 3 месяца назад +26

    26:10 King Yemma is having his mahogany desk re-finnished because its power to warp the fabric of space time was leaking and slowing down the queue.

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 3 месяца назад

      I thought that was about to say slowly leaking GT into other timelines.
      Please no.

  • @Soulxstar
    @Soulxstar 3 месяца назад +65

    15:30 Kaiser slowly realizing that what he's watching make no sense it's hilarious

  • @morrisl123
    @morrisl123 3 месяца назад +55

    Kaiser: 17 with the Black Ki looks cool! 😃
    Lani: An android with *Ki!* 😀
    Kaiser: 😀😨wait

  • @Juju2927
    @Juju2927 3 месяца назад +47

    The face kaiser did when he realized they made 17 have Ki is priceless xD

  • @06yarbrougha
    @06yarbrougha 3 месяца назад +10

    The funny thing about the part you guys rip on of Goku's "misadventures" in hell.... those are literally the tortures of Japanese Hell [Jigoku]. He's just not really put off by them because he wasn't guilty (to a strong degree) of most of those sins, so they hardly affect him

  • @JRTIntervencion
    @JRTIntervencion 3 месяца назад +17

    Raditz "his hair made it"
    Thank you, Editor.

  • @rolfstalker2986
    @rolfstalker2986 3 месяца назад +21

    The change in Kaiser's face when Lani points out that the android has ki is just priceless!

  • @snuzzlebumble
    @snuzzlebumble 3 месяца назад +11

    Man, being a villain in DragonBall really pays! The funding that Gero had access to while being in hell to CREATE ANOTHER 17 FROM SCRATCH must've been insane!

    • @offthedeepend3996
      @offthedeepend3996 3 месяца назад +2

      Apparently for some reason you also get to train in hell when your a villain. Even though technically that shouldn't be allowed, they would eventually become strong enough to get out of hell by force.

  • @SwannyTheMike
    @SwannyTheMike 3 месяца назад +29

    Kaiser's concerned about watching it in the order the creators intended and I'm sitting here questioning the idea that GT was made with intention of anyone actually watching it.

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 3 месяца назад +1

      It feels like....a lot of bad corporate decision making made into an anime with 1 good episode. The literal Bee Plot.

  • @KazLordOfLightWarriors
    @KazLordOfLightWarriors 3 месяца назад +5

    I hope if HFIL continues, you guys do something with these episodes to riff on them.

  • @dionysisnance4204
    @dionysisnance4204 3 месяца назад +20

    I always like the idea of dragon ball evil scientist grouping up dr gero dr myuu dr wheelo

    • @senatorwilsonphillips8724
      @senatorwilsonphillips8724 3 месяца назад +5

      That has probably happened in Dragon Ball Heroes, the story is a really long fanfic.

  • @RiderNexus
    @RiderNexus 3 месяца назад +9

    6:59 Kaiser, is it a bad time to admit when I read Boo in the Manga, before hearing him speak in any language, I read him with Cartman's voice

    • @MSCDonkeyKong
      @MSCDonkeyKong 11 дней назад

      I remember seeing an edit of that. And honestly if that were his real voice, it'd be my pick for best Buu voice.

  • @wanderingstorytellerj7758
    @wanderingstorytellerj7758 3 месяца назад +24

    They could have done so many fun interactions. Imagine Gohan and Goten meeting the evil King Piccolo. Mr. Satan fighting Colonel Silver and Staff Officer Black. Krillin getting revenge on Tambourine. Vegeta learning about the time Monster Carrot made Bulma wear a bunny outfit.

    • @tinyetoile5503
      @tinyetoile5503 3 месяца назад +3

      Wasn't Roshi the one that put Bulma in the bunny outfit?

    • @BirdOfTheEnd
      @BirdOfTheEnd 3 месяца назад +2

      That was Oolong who did that.

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. 3 месяца назад +1

      Yea, it coulda been longer AND still more interesting than before Baby arc.

    • @PinkieBen
      @PinkieBen 3 месяца назад +2

      Damn I hadn't even thought about how Mr. Satan could actually take some early DB villains, they really missed so many opportunities here

    • @wanderingstorytellerj7758
      @wanderingstorytellerj7758 3 месяца назад +1

      @@PinkieBen Yep. Aside from possibly Major Metallion and Mercenary Tao, the Red Ribbon Army is the last threat that Mr. Satan could take on and have a fair chance of winning, IMO.

  • @maxhay9098
    @maxhay9098 3 месяца назад +12

    Considering TFS canon, if Nappa isn't in the "Other Group" in HFIL, I'm gonna be disappointed, because he's dead again, by autoerotic asphyxiation via belt. I could see Nappa and Bojack having chemistry like chocolate and peanut butter.

    •  3 месяца назад +1

      When does HFIL take place? I could see the argument that it takes place before the Buu saga.

    • @Personaless
      @Personaless 3 месяца назад

      I feel like it's taking place prior to the Otherworld Tournament filler arc where Goku and Pikkon fight Cell and Freeza

    • @billclockwell
      @billclockwell 3 месяца назад

      Its pretty concretely after cell dies in the cell games, and Nappa is alive until Buu in the bits

  • @jadbayram496
    @jadbayram496 3 месяца назад +13

    15:35 kaiser's change in expression after lani talks about android ki was the same as mine after it registered that androids shouldn't even have ki

    • @anthonygarland8839
      @anthonygarland8839 3 месяца назад +2

      The only idea I have was one can be sensed and other can't be sensed one had evil ki which is the one in hell and other one ki can't be sensed was the one earth

  • @WarriorConsole
    @WarriorConsole 3 месяца назад +11

    I think what the Super 17 arc needed other than it being so short, and a few plot holes, I wish we got to know more about the original 17. Who is he now? Make me like him. Make me feel bad that he got mind controlled, and for hurting his sister against his will. Super 17 is just cool, and that's it.

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. 3 месяца назад +6

      People can say what they want about Super, but the downtime used in Super is used pretty well for other characters.

  • @JosueRivera-hq3vf
    @JosueRivera-hq3vf 3 месяца назад +9

    Say what you will about Resurrection F. But they took full advantage of the premise. Frieza was allowed to be his deliciously evil self, there were nods to the continuity since his death. It’s a flawed story but it has its moments.
    This arc was an easy set up for extended sequences and episodes of villains coming back. Cell looking to get revenge on Gohan, Frieza going after Trunks not realizing it’s a different one from the guy who killed him. Raditz being baffled that jis weakling brother had two sons and even a granddaughter who far outclass him. There was a lot to draw from

    • @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p
      @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p 3 месяца назад +2

      What I especially hate about Resurrection F is that they were too cheap to give Freeza an actual new form like Coola's. Freeza is not a Saiyan, there is no reason why his skin should just go turn gold as he reaches a new level.

    • @JosueRivera-hq3vf
      @JosueRivera-hq3vf 3 месяца назад +1

      @@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p They probably didn’t want to mess with his iconic shape of his final form. Still, I agree, adding more than just a color swap would have been cool.

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. 3 месяца назад

      @@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p Maaan, that woulda been so cool 😫

    • @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p
      @JohnnyTheWolf-d3p 3 месяца назад +1

      @@JosueRivera-hq3vf Meh, I do not buy that. After all, they had no problem redesigning Broly several times over the years and they eventually did give both Gohan and Piccolo new unique forms in the Super Hero movie. Heck, SSJ4 remains a fan favourite up to this day and it significantly alters Goku and Vegeta's appearances!

    • @JosueRivera-hq3vf
      @JosueRivera-hq3vf 3 месяца назад

      @@JohnnyTheWolf-d3p Yeah but Super also had a lot of nostalgia pandering. Broly may have a few tweaks but it’s still Toriyama’s take on Broly. The new suits Goku and Vegeta had was quickly dropped for their more iconic looks.

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 3 месяца назад +8

    Hi Nappa
    Bye Nappa

  • @fatrobin72
    @fatrobin72 3 месяца назад +8

    I saw some GT DVDs for sale in a second hand store today, one of the features was that you could have english dialogue with the japanese soundtrack (so it looks like some people out there understood that the dub soundtrack sucked...)

  • @desmondmalone438
    @desmondmalone438 3 месяца назад +10

    23:02 Frieza have that two pizzas he wanted

  • @jodinsan
    @jodinsan 3 месяца назад +9

    The Super 17 story arc is why I have been saying for _years_ that Vegeta got done dirty when he didn't get to keep _his_ body.

  • @Scsigs
    @Scsigs 3 месяца назад +12

    This arc is 1 of the biggest reasons I don't see the argument that Super is worse than GT. Super did actually interesting things with 17 that didn't involve turning him evil through mind control & fusing him with a doppelganger. Just, why?

  • @dillongeorge5866
    @dillongeorge5866 3 месяца назад +6

    If GT Abridged ever happened, keep the Danny DeVito voice for Myuu 😌

  • @connorwood9211
    @connorwood9211 3 месяца назад +15

    - Uub having his "I thought you were stronger" moment
    - 17 going evil and no one questioning it is and just ok killing him is one of my biggest gripes in the franchise

    • @ezequielinsaurralde5058
      @ezequielinsaurralde5058 3 месяца назад +4

      Krillin Flat Outs Call Out 17 On Why He's Acting This Way, But Hell-Fighter 17 Controls Him Further And Kills Krillin
      And So Did Goku, He Flat Out States That Even While 17 Was Fused Into Super 17, A Smal Glimpse Of Himself Was Still Fighting Back, He Knew That 18 Had The Bomb Removed, But He Still Couldnt Bring Himself To Kill His Sister (That's What Goku Tell 18 About 17/Super 17 After His Death)

  • @AmmarsGC
    @AmmarsGC 3 месяца назад +4

    The things I would give for you guys to do like those Abridged Buu Bits on this series. That would be hilarious😭

  • @4125tech
    @4125tech 3 месяца назад +12

    I saw him pick up that smoothie and immediately said out loud "he's gonna chug it isn't he"

  • @zeroreyortsed3624
    @zeroreyortsed3624 3 месяца назад +11

    Lani, when you said "a tectonic plate map of earth." I was expecting you were going to say "a topographical map of Utah" like when Weasel is dumping on Wade's appearance after he becomes Deadpool.😂

    •  3 месяца назад

      I imagine the sound of an earthquake when his brows move.

  • @Alucard-A-La-Carte
    @Alucard-A-La-Carte 3 месяца назад +3

    Now you REALLY begin to see how this series lived on through half-remembered descriptions of ideas that sound GREAT when they're being described and the only images of them that exist are cool-ass things like 17's black ki and the title "Hell-Fighter #17." But when you actually sit down and WATCH the damn thing it's...THIS!

  • @erher1433
    @erher1433 3 месяца назад +12

    Editor is on FIRE this video

  • @GondorLadyGwen
    @GondorLadyGwen 3 месяца назад +5

    So you know how Kaiser flipped his shit last week? This is the arc that made ME flip my shit. There is SO MUCH POTENTIAL IN THIS ARC AND IT IS ALL SQUANDERED.

  • @TricoloreGT
    @TricoloreGT 3 месяца назад +3

    Kinda upset they glossed over the fact that Cell tried to and pretty much absorbed Goku, but then Goku just...crawled out xD

    • @PalZer0
      @PalZer0 3 месяца назад

      Yeah how was that ignored? I have so many questions.

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic 3 месяца назад +9

    Ill never tire of lani making wrestling references. The mega powers unite!

  • @betarotai
    @betarotai 3 месяца назад +11

    "Why did they put the post-ending special in the middle of the show?"
    Theory time: GT was originally supposed to end with Baby. However, something happened behind the scenes that led to the execs going "we CANNOT end on Baby", so they hastily threw together the last dozen episodes, released the already finished special meant to be the big send off as filler, and then kept going in an attempt to salvage GT.
    Though with how this show has been manhandled, it could honestly be anything.

    • @wingedswordslayer
      @wingedswordslayer 3 месяца назад +2

      This actually happened a lot. It was just rare for their western partners to mimic and do it too. Off of the top of my head, there's the entirety of the Digimon movies/specials that aired during the shows respective runs, even if it didn't make sense.
      Our War Game aired early March 2000 and took place AFTER the show's end (and arguably spoiled the ending) since the show was still airing at the time and was wrapping up the Dark Masters/Apocalymon arc; 02 had its main movie, Hurricane Touchdown, air at about the mid-point and spoiled Magnamon before the it showed up in the show and Revenge of Diablomon/Diaboromon Strikes Back takes place after the show as well but was released as the show was in its last arc.
      Its not even restricted to Toei either since you had stuff like Megaman NT Warrior/Rockman EXE movie, Program of Light and Dark, which absolutely feels like a finale (and arguably serves as a better one considering it does wrap up the Nebula plot from the games albeit rather different) and given how Beast and Beast+ didn't bother adapting 6 plot wise at all....

    • @ForeverRed3000
      @ForeverRed3000 3 месяца назад

      @@wingedswordslayerdidn’t this happen recently with Naruto as well? I’m pretty sure Shippuden: The Movie premiered before Shippuden aired, and The Last was released before the anime even got to the final battle with Kaguya during the war
      So weird that they do thjs

  • @burnin8able
    @burnin8able 3 месяца назад +1

    I love the concept of the Goku household having such absurd concepts on what is fun and interesting that to outsiders its practically the Adam's Family house.

  • @drewmotl4663
    @drewmotl4663 3 месяца назад +3

    It finally happened, Hercule Satan managed to make Skygina 2

  • @forkidszc
    @forkidszc 3 месяца назад +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the Dub actually does have some commentary between Nappa and Vegeta during this arc

  • @Grigsy
    @Grigsy 3 месяца назад +6

    I think you’re forgetting that Yamaha did fight the Ginyus in the DBZ filler ;)

  • @pyrosianheir
    @pyrosianheir 3 месяца назад +2

    Lmao, Scott's face when Lani repeated the thing about 17 having Ki.

  • @CasualFox12495
    @CasualFox12495 3 месяца назад +3

    Soooo.... Raditz is just around I guess? And he's camping out on earth.

  • @Eriorguez
    @Eriorguez 3 месяца назад +2

    The ultimate combo of Myuu and Gero tech would realistically be Baby Cell rather than Android 34. Will die on this hill.

  • @pmgvictor4625
    @pmgvictor4625 3 месяца назад +3

    I love Horyinjutsu rendition of this episode of where Goku goes to hell to face off against Frieza and Cell, but unlike GT the villains have been training for all those years planning their revenge.

    • @jacobwilliams1223
      @jacobwilliams1223 Месяц назад +1

      Legit turned it from a funny gag fight to a horror show. Golden Frieza was portrayed as such a menace and it has this sense of hopelessness that was just a masterful work.

  • @Sonicfalcon16
    @Sonicfalcon16 3 месяца назад +3

    18:53 oh God yes. What could have been, like I wish super did that with nappa and raditz. The Vegeta old guard back. Is such a fun idea.

  • @way2creative
    @way2creative 3 месяца назад +5

    My stance on this is "sometimes the writers are just objectively wrong about their own story'
    And my biggest citation to this is "the sonic mandates states that Shadow the Hedgehog doesnt have friends" and if you played any game where shadow is playable that is objectively wrong.
    Fuck what writer intended it makes no sense.

    • @ultragodzillafan
      @ultragodzillafan 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, Toho supposedly has a mandate that Godzilla can emote/show emotion, which is really dumb. Godzilla is a character, he should be allowed to express things like sadness, anger, joy, etc.

    • @way2creative
      @way2creative 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ultragodzillafan I'm assuming you meant "can't show emotion" and saying "can" was a typo

  • @ultragodzillafan
    @ultragodzillafan 3 месяца назад +2

    A idea I wish they did for the Frieza/Cell tag team is have them constantly go at Goku, and everytime Goku seemingly beats them they respawn because they aren't limited to traditional bodies anymore, and they'd just wear Goku out to the point that his energy/stamina was too low to teleport out. Or a fight where Goku's raw power was irrelevant, because Cell and Frieza would outlast him. Make it a endurance fight. Instead, it's a repeat of antics from the Baby arc that was mediocre.

  • @theskyplanet2702
    @theskyplanet2702 3 месяца назад +3

    The calm delivery Scott gives when Lani casually goes “yeah lots of long pause shots on this one” and he just goes “yeah welcome to dragon ball” sends me and I don’t know why hauahauaha
    These hell episodes sure prove that if we ever had something well done kind of a mix of the original table special where everyone gets a moment and then something GOOD with resurrection F then we’d have such such fun.

  • @donovanbradford8231
    @donovanbradford8231 3 месяца назад +2

    Who let Gero and Mew build 17 in Hell? well clearly this is HFIL and Guz and Mez thought this would be a great work program to rehabilitate them, and boy were thdy wrong.

  • @jozen1098
    @jozen1098 3 месяца назад +10

    Should call this “17 going in 17”

  • @urameshitrev1851
    @urameshitrev1851 3 месяца назад +11

    Of all the weird lore this arc introduces, I like the common theme that Machinery can have souls, as we see with Major Mettalitron, Android 19, General Blue's Plane and General Black's Mech.
    It's more thought provoking, than thinking about how the hell Dr. Gero and Dr. Myuu's plan works lol

  • @badblight
    @badblight 3 месяца назад +11

    Ah yes, the "when we've hit a brick wall on villians" episode set. GT fever dream

  • @Alfareon
    @Alfareon 3 месяца назад +2

    i think chi-chi is supposed to be the chinese princess archetype, and chinese grandmoms and jewish grandmoms draw from the same well of power

  • @craigrobbins2463
    @craigrobbins2463 3 месяца назад +3

    Team Four STar segueing into doing dubs for muppet movies would be GOAT.

  • @zamu2
    @zamu2 3 месяца назад +2

    You know what could have been more interesting? Super 18.
    Get a great moment where Krillin is completely out-classed, but he's trying to snap his wife out of it and Super 18 ends up hesitating a bunch because she doesn't want to hurt him. She separates and Goku and her finish off her evil counterpart.

  • @faceurhell
    @faceurhell 3 месяца назад +3

    The #1 rule of Dragon Ball GT showrunners: Don't explain anything and then execute it (and probably animate it) poorly and move on to next thing.