Standing in a forest at midnight, there were three unmistakable engine sounds heard in the distance that set the pulse racing and made you forget the mud and rain: the Quattro, the Stratos, and the bellowing 6R4. Magic! :-)
Yep. Although I'm more of a Quattro fan, it was always a thrill to be standing ankle-deep in slush in a forest at midnight and to hear that unmistakable 6R4 bellow coming towards you. Tony Pond? Hell, yeah! The Group-B era was a fantastic time for rallying. It's great that so much footage and even some of the cars have survived. So sad that we lost so many drivers.
The 1980's was a fantastic decade for motorsport in general, 1.5 litre turbo Formula 1, Group A Touring cars , Group B Rally cars and Group C Endurance cars. The speed, noise and spectacle of it blows modern motorsport away. Today we have pasteurised, standardised, homogenised, sterile racing which for the most part is not done on track but in pit on banks of computers working out which strategy can beat the other teams strategy. Add in the long lost tracks that actually flowed and encouraged racing and you can pretty much sum it up.
One my best motoring memories was standing in a quiet woods at a rally and a 6R4 started coming...from the moment I could just hear it to the point I couldn't, which was a long time - the thing literally blares..I'll never forget it..awesome. Great vid n great car!
Hi Bozzy.🙋 You're spot-on, mate. This is one of the best sounding rally car engines ever. Headphones are a must to get a true appreciation of the music this beast makes. Sometime this past summer, I believe one of these cars was supposed to be going up for auction, but I never heard the results. It had to be big money, because it only had something like 7 miles on the odometer. Thanks for the link to Craig Breen's POV video, Bozzy. Like any Group B machine, that thing is intense when driven all out.😲 Huge respect for those who are bold enough to give it 100%. I appreciate you and your mates putting in countless hours to produce these great videos.🙏 Have a wonderful weekend, my friend.
There she goes to kill me chicken nugget yes it’s an amazing piece, but pretty retarded as a concept, this car had no chance against forced induction cars :/
@@beefcake97 They tried to use N/A engines as they were usually more reliable, had no turbolag, and probably: were cheaper to develop. Although, the worst problem of the 6R4 is probably the wheelbase: it's too short to be competitive in the corners. The car can't powerslide without spinning totally, so it's as hard to drive as a Delta S4, Peugeot 205... etc, but having 100-200 hp less.
@@ryanriverosantana4970 They did slightly overcome the wheelbase problem by making it as Mid-Engine as they could this made the distribution of power to weight more even.
@@ryanriverosantana4970 I don't!. The real problems that the Metro 6R4 suffered initially was poor reliability,valve spring brakages,stones getting into the timing belt etc,and yes one could see that the Lancia Delta S4s and the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 never mind the Audi Quattro S1 evo were visibly faster as per forced induction..However it wasn't that shabby but unreliability destroyed any chances of exploiting when the top dogs fell off the road!..As for too short,the 205 T16 & Renault 5T were of similar dimensions and were both spinny let's say,so Pilot skill was to My mind a factor!..Look what might have been had Group B not been cancelled by that twat Ballestre!..Conrad Schmidt Motorsport Germany took on the Metros,sorted out the gremlins as only the Germans can and the then red Belga sponsored 6R4s started finishing Rallies and evolution would surely have followed had Group B gone into 1987!..Finally Another Brit Rally machine that could have bloodied the 205 T16/S4 duo noses was the Ford RS 200!.They were just unlocking the potential when Group B was binned after the tragic death of Henri Toivonen and Sergio Cresto in Their Lancia Delta S4!!.
Will Gollops rally cross 6R4 was twin turbo, making 660hp, it was timed against Mansels Williams F1 car and it could do 0 to 120mph faster than the williams F1 and the 6R4 was on dirt!
@@EugVR6 I remember that! Wasn't that article in something like Car and Car Conversions? As I recall the 6R4 was as you say as quick if not quicker to 60 and only marginally behind the F1 car on the 0 to 100 sprint!
@@skylined5534 Good Memory, It was CCC, The best car magazine ever printed, who else apart from Russell Bulgin could get Ayrton Senna to come to Wales and drive rally cars in the rain!...would F1 even allow that to happen?
No one is filming FOR me. But since I go to many events with other friends, who also have their own RUclips channels (Italiansupercarvideo, NM2255, MattyB727 or Davide458Italia), we are often doing collaborations in the last years. What does it mean? I do my own recordings and they do their own ones and at the end of the event we exchange each other our clips and material produced. This leads to have more clips of some particular cars we are interested of, we have a better variety of angles and positions and sometimes we have to struggle less. If I did this kind of collaborations, you will see their RUclips names written on the videos too
Defo my favourite Group B nutter motor! Anyone know if theres any recent footage of the Will Gallop rallycross car? Or even if that car is still alive? Gallops 6R4 had a smaller capacity (i think it was 2.3 instead of 3.0?) but had 2 turbos bolted on, upping power to 8-900bhp! I think Gallop was incredibly successful with the car in the late 80s/early 90s.
Yeah that was my feeling too, sounds very much like the 80s V6 F1 cars. Even more interesting when you realise the engine in the 6R4 is essentially a Cosworth DFV with 2 cylinders missing.
dont know jack about it IRL but its my favorite car in Forza Horizon 5 😅 idk what it is specifically i just love how its so… stubby? and the contrast between the low front and the high wing in sorta a slanted shape is just cool looking to me
The Metro 6R4 was part of the legendary Group B era in rallying. It arrived at a later stage in that category and sadly never was able to fulfill it's potential, therefore never drove at the front of the pack. But it has found many lovers over the years, with its distinctive design and that gorgeous V6 growl.
I remember a police mini metro pulling away from the traffic lights only for the front wheel to detach itself and roll majestically across the intersection, leaving the Mini Jam Sandwich stranded in the road.
I've worked on a lot of these. Never ever heard or known of that happen even once. The front hubs, shafts and ball joints on these were monstrous affairs given the small size of the car. 4 pot callipers from the factory as well! My mate's mini thou did suffer a front wheel loss though due to some plum doing the driveshaft nut up apparently with an air tool and tightening it so viciously it fractured the end of the shaft! That was a fin night at Festival Park in Stoke-on-Trent in the late 90s, we all shat ourselves at the time 😂
I hate the one in the Forza Motorsport Series, the damn thing is limited to like 125 mph top speed which really irks me because it's one of my favorite cars. I know it's a rally car and they don't exceed that speed too much, but if you put a different transmission in rear end in it you should be able to get it to go much faster, but for some reason you can't.
Hasn't any crazy engineer thought already about replicate group B cars for fun? Imagine this 6R4 but even lighter, safer and more powerful, driven by people with giant balls...
This was certainly being babied, short shifted and 99% not being revved out either, shame, but it might have an issue we don't know about, or they were just being too careful with it.
I heard that this spicific 6R4 is the International spec, that is between the Clubman spec (around 250hp) and the actual competition car Rover used. (400 bhp) The gearbox should be different also. The 6R4 wasn't designed specially to be fast on the corners, but anyway, probably it's just being driven as careful as possible, in order to not break shafts, the gearbox or engine.
@@ryanriverosantana4970 I keep forgetting the Clubman spec is so "low" on power - looks like the reality is the Clubman spec was upped to ~300 with the International putting out around 410. The middle spec (low spec) was called the Clubman 300, it was ~50HP more than the original Clubman at around 250, buit it doesn't look like the original Clubman spec was ever released. They all had 9k redlines though and this one is really just being held back, whichever spec it is.
@@Jack-jj2rv International spec, not the same car that the Rover team ran, but should pretty close. This one is probably protecting shafts, engine and/or gearbox from getting damaged. Those cars had a bad distrubution of power and torque, (65% on the rear, 35% on the front) and the fact that it didn't suffer turbolag made the rear shafts/axles break like butter oftenly, if the engine or the gearbox weren't broken already.
![MG Metro 6R4 | Group B Tribute [Passats de canto] (Telesport)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RH5c51g5Ilw/mqdefault.jpg)
Standing in a forest at midnight, there were three unmistakable engine sounds heard in the distance that set the pulse racing and made you forget the mud and rain: the Quattro, the Stratos, and the bellowing 6R4.
Magic! :-)
Out of those three, i think the Stratos sounds the best, i'm a huge fan of that machine and it's also my dream car😉
Back in the day when you knew what car was coming next from 2 miles away!
The Lancia Stratos, this and the Delta S4 have always been my favorite. Also, long live group B.
But it's old asf@@theoneandonlyparsa
one of the best sounding Group B bunch, you knew exactly when it was coming minutes before it arrived
Yep. Although I'm more of a Quattro fan, it was always a thrill to be standing ankle-deep in slush in a forest at midnight and to hear that unmistakable 6R4 bellow coming towards you. Tony Pond? Hell, yeah!
The Group-B era was a fantastic time for rallying. It's great that so much footage and even some of the cars have survived. So sad that we lost so many drivers.
@@EleanorPeterson
My absolute two favourites from the era were the Quattro and the 6R4, easily the two best and aggressive sounding Group B monsters!
I think they knew almost every car back then from the sound.. nowadays you aren't 100% what is coming
These 6R4s look and sound absolutely insane! Definitely my favourite of the crazy Group B cars.
This is what dreams are made of, I’d have that over any other car.
The 1980's was a fantastic decade for motorsport in general, 1.5 litre turbo Formula 1, Group A Touring cars , Group B Rally cars and Group C Endurance cars. The speed, noise and spectacle of it blows modern motorsport away. Today we have pasteurised, standardised, homogenised, sterile racing which for the most part is not done on track but in pit on banks of computers working out which strategy can beat the other teams strategy. Add in the long lost tracks that actually flowed and encouraged racing and you can pretty much sum it up.
Absolutely agreed. I'm just glad we got to witness it first hand!
One my best motoring memories was standing in a quiet woods at a rally and a 6R4 started coming...from the moment I could just hear it to the point I couldn't, which was a long time - the thing literally blares..I'll never forget it..awesome. Great vid n great car!
That is Breen's own car, check out his onboard from the Killarney historic, it's rather incredible! Proper group b!
Hi Bozzy.🙋 You're spot-on, mate. This is one of the best sounding rally car engines ever. Headphones are a must to get a true appreciation of the music this beast makes. Sometime this past summer, I believe one of these cars was supposed to be going up for auction, but I never heard the results. It had to be big money, because it only had something like 7 miles on the odometer. Thanks for the link to Craig Breen's POV video, Bozzy. Like any Group B machine, that thing is intense when driven all out.😲 Huge respect for those who are bold enough to give it 100%. I appreciate you and your mates putting in countless hours to produce these great videos.🙏 Have a wonderful weekend, my friend.
Simply one of the best sounding race cars ever
Per me a mani basse il miglior sound di questo RallyLegend, a sentirla dal vivo mi veniva la pelle d'oca... Grazie mille Bozzy!
Pure Sound of Non Turbo V6
British Leyland did make good cars... When they wanted to do so
There she goes to kill me chicken nugget yes it’s an amazing piece, but pretty retarded as a concept, this car had no chance against forced induction cars :/
@@beefcake97 They tried to use N/A engines as they were usually more reliable, had no turbolag, and probably: were cheaper to develop.
Although, the worst problem of the 6R4 is probably the wheelbase: it's too short to be competitive in the corners. The car can't powerslide without spinning totally, so it's as hard to drive as a Delta S4, Peugeot 205... etc, but having 100-200 hp less.
@@ryanriverosantana4970 They did slightly overcome the wheelbase problem by making it as Mid-Engine as they could this made the distribution of power to weight more even.
@@ryanriverosantana4970 I don't!. The real problems that the Metro 6R4 suffered initially was poor reliability,valve spring brakages,stones getting into the timing belt etc,and yes one could see that the Lancia Delta S4s and the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 never mind the Audi Quattro S1 evo were visibly faster as per forced induction..However it wasn't that shabby but unreliability destroyed any chances of exploiting when the top dogs fell off the road!..As for too short,the 205 T16 & Renault 5T were of similar dimensions and were both spinny let's say,so Pilot skill was to My mind a factor!..Look what might have been had Group B not been cancelled by that twat Ballestre!..Conrad Schmidt Motorsport Germany took on the Metros,sorted out the gremlins as only the Germans can and the then red Belga sponsored 6R4s started finishing Rallies and evolution would surely have followed had Group B gone into 1987!..Finally Another Brit Rally machine that could have bloodied the 205 T16/S4 duo noses was the Ford RS 200!.They were just unlocking the potential when Group B was binned after the tragic death of Henri Toivonen and Sergio Cresto in Their Lancia Delta S4!!.
The only thing British Leyland about that car was the rear light clusters. It was mostly Williams.
Awesome video, at my local rally event i remember spectating from about 1km away and i could hear the metro idling on the start line so loud!!
1km is FAR!!!!! damn its loud then
From an era when rallying was entertaining to watch
Just love that sound...
Brilliant video, thank you. Fantastic camera shots in crisp HD, with glorious engine sounds instead of shitty music, thank you so much !!!!
I had a run in with you on here a few months back but this comment you made, I couldn't agree more!
such a lovely sound
that car is very well balanced
Sound of 70 & 80's race cars
Very good work, thank you !
In a world of turbo cars with fake bops and bangs it's so nice to hear an N/A screamer.
If somebody asks me "what's the best sounding car ever" I will say this one.
Good job for England.
Will Gollops rally cross 6R4 was twin turbo, making 660hp, it was timed against Mansels Williams F1 car and it could do 0 to 120mph faster than the williams F1 and the 6R4 was on dirt!
Oh you mean the 2019 Williams
@@afoxwithahat7846 Did Nigel Mansel drive for Williams in 2019!
@@EugVR6
I remember that! Wasn't that article in something like Car and Car Conversions?
As I recall the 6R4 was as you say as quick if not quicker to 60 and only marginally behind the F1 car on the 0 to 100 sprint!
@@skylined5534 Good Memory, It was CCC, The best car magazine ever printed, who else apart from Russell Bulgin could get Ayrton Senna to come to Wales and drive rally cars in the rain!...would F1 even allow that to happen?
How many people are filming for Bozzy?
No one is filming FOR me. But since I go to many events with other friends, who also have their own RUclips channels (Italiansupercarvideo, NM2255, MattyB727 or Davide458Italia), we are often doing collaborations in the last years. What does it mean? I do my own recordings and they do their own ones and at the end of the event we exchange each other our clips and material produced. This leads to have more clips of some particular cars we are interested of, we have a better variety of angles and positions and sometimes we have to struggle less. If I did this kind of collaborations, you will see their RUclips names written on the videos too
Awesome work! Nothing better than just engine noises. No Music, no Bullshit.
@@19Bozzy92 -you have real integrity Bozzy🍻
@@19Bozzy92 davvero ci è voluto 1 anno e il cercare un video della 6r4 per scoprire sta magnifica cosa nonchè dubbio da anni?😂
Awesome car 👍
@Gp2 Engine me too 👍🏼😂
Defo my favourite Group B nutter motor! Anyone know if theres any recent footage of the Will Gallop rallycross car? Or even if that car is still alive? Gallops 6R4 had a smaller capacity (i think it was 2.3 instead of 3.0?) but had 2 turbos bolted on, upping power to 8-900bhp! I think Gallop was incredibly successful with the car in the late 80s/early 90s.
Nice to see my boss in his fantastic car 😉
Sounds amazing! Greetings from Chile Bozzy. 💥🍻
Hi bozzy when are you gonna make best car sound vol series?
Anyway great video☺️😃
I don't know what Austin Rover were thinking... but I'm glad said thoughts led to this beautifully bonkers little rocket!
Sounds like F1 cars of the early 80s
Yeah that was my feeling too, sounds very much like the 80s V6 F1 cars. Even more interesting when you realise the engine in the 6R4 is essentially a Cosworth DFV with 2 cylinders missing.
probably has a different exhaust, sounds a bit higher pitched than the metros at group B rally
Robino pretty much
That's because they used V6s (among others) in F1 as well
@Andy KA the core sound of a V6 is still the same
dont know jack about it IRL but its my favorite car in Forza Horizon 5 😅 idk what it is specifically i just love how its so… stubby? and the contrast between the low front and the high wing in sorta a slanted shape is just cool looking to me
The Metro 6R4 was part of the legendary Group B era in rallying. It arrived at a later stage in that category and sadly never was able to fulfill it's potential, therefore never drove at the front of the pack.
But it has found many lovers over the years, with its distinctive design and that gorgeous V6 growl.
Like to see this driven the way it can be driven
It's over 9,000!
i love group b so much
Sounding like a modern day F1 car!
🤦🏻♂️this sounds 1000x better than turbocharged V6 F1
Thanks Bozzy 👍
Hey Great video buddy thanks for sharing!
Nice shot to end the video. 👍
Credo che questa faccia molti più giri di quando correva in gr.b negli anni 80..
Ray Breen father to Craig Breen (ex Citroen wrc driver)
You think it’ll redline half way through the rev range, but it just keeps going. Sounds almost unnatural for a V6 to rev that high, insane...
Sounds better than V6 F1
Bozzy!! You da Man!!.
I used to know someone who's got one for sale it is so much
good driving
Wow Bozzy uploading at precisely 7:31 AM where I live
I remember a police mini metro pulling away from the traffic lights only for the front wheel to detach itself and roll majestically across the intersection, leaving the Mini Jam Sandwich stranded in the road.
I've worked on a lot of these. Never ever heard or known of that happen even once. The front hubs, shafts and ball joints on these were monstrous affairs given the small size of the car. 4 pot callipers from the factory as well!
My mate's mini thou did suffer a front wheel loss though due to some plum doing the driveshaft nut up apparently with an air tool and tightening it so viciously it fractured the end of the shaft! That was a fin night at Festival Park in Stoke-on-Trent in the late 90s, we all shat ourselves at the time 😂
How many headlights should we put on it?
*Yes*
Love the metro 6R4 the only naturally aspirated group B car there was but 10,000 rpm ??
We’re so you think the engines for the jaguar xj220. Came from 👍
i only just found out the jrv-6 is based on a v64v lol.
Il secondo miglior v6 del gruppo B... Ovviamente il migliore risiede sotto il nome di _Stratos_
i would die, so much in something like this
How to get sound from the first car?
Imagine if this revved up to 12000 rpm
Alfa 155 and Opel Clibra DTM cars would be your best bet.
Why not 15,000?
Almost sounds like the V6 F1 cars
what means " N/A " please ? thanks for sharing !
gino delavega naturally aspirated.
@@rb264ag thank you !
I hate the one in the Forza Motorsport Series, the damn thing is limited to like 125 mph top speed which really irks me because it's one of my favorite cars. I know it's a rally car and they don't exceed that speed too much, but if you put a different transmission in rear end in it you should be able to get it to go much faster, but for some reason you can't.
Bellissima, l ho vista passare in un rettilineo alla fine della speciale la casa come un fulmin, oddio scusa, come una gruppo b.
Fun fact: this engine later went into the Jaguar XJ220 after getting 10 shots of adrenaline and a bucket of meth
You hear the intake noise 200 yards away
Boxy boi
Meh, driven like a grandma on a sunday tour. I’ve seen these live when I was Young and this doesn’t do them justice. Cool Car!
They are worth alot now no one is going to destroy them by pushing 100%
Yeah I know so I forgive him for that. Still could have pushed a little more though imo 😃
@@thtftmfg9112 too risky its dangerous enough putting it on a rally stage
Hasn't any crazy engineer thought already about replicate group B cars for fun?
Imagine this 6R4 but even lighter, safer and more powerful, driven by people with giant balls...
@@ryanriverosantana4970 dude thats just fucking outrageous, would be WAY too quick for a rally stage
Can I get this 10,000 Rev v6 engine into my Toyota 4runner?✔️ -😂🍻
Is this the Suzuki Swift platform?
Suona cattiva !
One would think it's an F1 car until it's in their sight
imagine this but with a turbo
i like cars modification like 4wd launch control system or wheels control when turning (expensive cars)
meriterebbe rapporti più ravvicinati dalla terza in poi.
Forza brought me here
Sounds like someone ripping bed sheets.
*6000 rpm
Neither clubman nor group b was a 10,000 rpm
Great car.... But he's not pushing it at all..very slow obviously just exibition.
Needs Tony pond behind the wheel... 👍👍
Hmm, frisky...
;-)
Sounds like Senna's car...
This was certainly being babied, short shifted and 99% not being revved out either, shame, but it might have an issue we don't know about, or they were just being too careful with it.
I heard that this spicific 6R4 is the International spec, that is between the Clubman spec (around 250hp) and the actual competition car Rover used. (400 bhp) The gearbox should be different also.
The 6R4 wasn't designed specially to be fast on the corners, but anyway, probably it's just being driven as careful as possible, in order to not break shafts, the gearbox or engine.
@@ryanriverosantana4970 I keep forgetting the Clubman spec is so "low" on power - looks like the reality is the Clubman spec was upped to ~300 with the International putting out around 410. The middle spec (low spec) was called the Clubman 300, it was ~50HP more than the original Clubman at around 250, buit it doesn't look like the original Clubman spec was ever released.
They all had 9k redlines though and this one is really just being held back, whichever spec it is.
It's impressive but still 100hp less than the competitor
Not that fast..
if it was the same spec as the group B 6R4s this guy probably wouldnt be able to drive it lol
@@Jack-jj2rv International spec, not the same car that the Rover team ran, but should pretty close.
This one is probably protecting shafts, engine and/or gearbox from getting damaged.
Those cars had a bad distrubution of power and torque, (65% on the rear, 35% on the front) and the fact that it didn't suffer turbolag made the rear shafts/axles break like butter oftenly, if the engine or the gearbox weren't broken already.