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Is Divorce A Sin or Is It Acceptable By God | Part 1 | Kingsley Okonkwo & Dr. Olumide Emmanuel
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Join Kingsley Okonkwo & Dr. Olumide Emmanuel as they share deep truths on Divorce.
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This is so refreshing to listen to.🙏 My Ex did everything that was wrong in a marriage, I stayed for 20yrs. But when he abandoned us for 3 years, I filed for divorce. He’s been trying to come back, but I refused. I don’t see him changing his ways, he’s only coming back cause the grass turned out not to be greener out there. Besides, I cannot pinpoint one good thing that would make me consider him. He pretended to be a good church brother, but after marriage, I saw a different version of him. Also, I can’t throw away the peace that I currently enjoy for anything!🙄
Peace of mind is priceless...🎉🎉🎉
Please take him back because of your children, so that it will not affect them psychologically and also not think that it’s way of life, forgive him please.
@@olaoni4651listen to yourself. So the children were not affected when he walked out on her and them?
Marriage that lasted over 20 years, how old do you think the kids are now?
@@olaoni4651 are u aware that unhappy homes does more damage to children than a divorced home?
Where two elephants fight, the grass will suffer, and those grass are children.
I think a man or a woman should not watch this message alone. They should watch it together and after that, they should have a heart to heart discussion
What if ur spouse doesn't want to watch it , ...its easier said than done abeg
@@maapat1431she only made a suggestion sis!
Whoever thought about this idea of bringing the two of you together is an absolute genius 🎈
God!
The Holy spirit
That's my cousin.
He is the best motivator/adviser you ever have.
He will push you positively to reach your goals.
We live close to each other in Peckham, London in the 90's.
The place is called Hurdle Promenade in North Peckham Estate.
I was in the University then.
I know what he's been through.
I think he knows me now if he's reading this.
You people are sincerely blessed to have him.
Oh how I wish my mother encountered such wisdom. She could still be alive today. DIVORCE IS NOT A SIN
So sorry 😢
Sorry for your loss
So sorry about your loss 🙏
Hmmm same happened to my mom too
May their souls RIP
Divorce is Good ooo if you consider it in a mariage where Satan abides,you have saved your soul and considered God most of all....He is a Jealous God ,no demon abiding marriage should replace him
I had similar experience,
I was the second husband, she left, parked her things exactly the same way as narrated . It’s been five years now. She’s now married to the 3rd husband just few months ago, somewhere in Canada, it’s all over Facebook, she a gospel artist, born again, speaks in tongues but when she manifests in her abusive character ,the devil takes over her physical form.
More men are out their who go through same from church girls , mostly those that have been married and remarried.
Now I’ll push for divorce and move on with my life.Some times , the church don’t help matters. Thanks for this video, I’m helped and blessed.
The Lord is your strength
The Lord will bless you as you begin again.
God bless u
I have a questions, were there pointers or red flags you overlooked. Or maybe she was good at hiding this side
@emmanuelchukwuemeka5831 usually there are always red flags which we ignore due to ignorance and lack of sound teachings like these Pastors give. The red flags are covered up or excused by the feelings, emotions and affections but they are always there. A lot of things we tolerate because we don't have the knowledge to see things as they actually are.
The only thing I have to say here is, it's better to get to heaven and realized that the things you obeyed does not really matter than to get to hell only for you to realize that the commandments you looked than on are the reason why you are in hell. No father of faith is a complete standard ahead of Christ. Our salvation will not be judged by the standard of any Father of faith.
God bless you. Had I know is the worst statement anyone can ever made in life. But the truth is the Bible will not be better treated because we are in the last days.
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This is a delicate issue that requires a lot of wisdom to even make a comment at first. I believe you're a believer. Jesus never married and Paul the apostle of the gentiles equally live and encouraged being a celibate all his life to avoid some of this complications. However, he said if you can't hold yourself then you can get married with the absolute foundation of love and other things like respect, tolerance and co. Provided abuse is not the new standard in the marriage. Staying in an abusive marriage is not the best way to show that one is a Christian. Many takes the advantage of their spouse because they feel nothing will happen after all. Peace.
What are you saying?
Thank you for saying the truth. Now, a lot of popular pastors are misleading people because of their standard of living instead of teaching the Bible truth.
We need wisdom. Do your best to make your marriage work but it takes 2 people. Leave if the person is an abuser, a serial/unrepentant cheater. Also if the person doesn't want to stay you cant force them. Dont stay and let shame or people's opinions kill you. It's not ideal but life goes on after divorce.
Correct.
But people saw it before they got married. Never ignore the red flags
@@phurplkyxxex It's possible
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What wisdom 🙌🏽🙌🏽
God hate divorce but does not hate the divorcee🙌
Powerful
Controversial topic indeed, it takes a brave pastor to talk about it. The truth is that most marriages do not glorify God, kids aren't being raised to follow the paths of God, women are not loved sacrificially, men are not respected, and people are NOT equally yoked!
Women are oppressed in the name of God hates divorce (we have to take steps back and ask what divorce is and where it starts to Him), God called us to live holy and peacefully, most importantly glorify Him in marriage. marriage today is turned into A MESS by pipo. STAYING without fixing the foundation isn't helping anyone nor making God glorified..
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God bless you my point exactly is the marriage of God first of all so when using God's principle to correct a marriage that isn't from him???
Thank you Pastor for talking openly about this. I live in the North East of Nigeria. And I'm divorced. Talking about this is like first class taboo, talk more of it coming from a pastor. I'm glad you're talking about it from a scriptural point.
Please where in North east do you stay?
No two divorce stories are the same. Let the spirit of God direct and reveal to men and women to live with what God has written in his word.
I missed my purpose in life bcos of marriage ooo
God please help me ooo
The 3 pastors i choose for my self personally to follow, Dr Myles Munroe, Dr Emmanuel Olumide and Pastor K... This does not make others less but you guys are exceptional. ❤❤❤❤❤
Billy Graham !!!!
Divorce is a situation that is not pallatable for anyone, especially believers.
The initial intention of any couples, is live together till old age and death final separation.
However, there are various reasons for a marriage breakdown, apart from adultery or abuse.
If a spouse decides to leave a marriage, will the other spouse have to remain single for no fault of his/her? I don't think it makes any religious sense, for one to suffer for no fault of theirs.
It's a tough situation, but let's depend on God's leading...it's tough 😢
Thank you. A narcissist will not change unless they accept that they have a problem
That is the 1st road to recovery
38:47 Let's clarify this point. We do not divorce because we made an error. We divorce because of
1. Adultery
2. Abuse - Physical, emotional
3. Abandonment - Physical, Financial, Sexual.
As well as "other circumstances"
The Bible talks about “ your own husband”…. That’s the phrase. Not all marriages are made in heaven, many are contracted in hell and mediated by Satan. Marrying for the wrong reasons can result in those things he listed. King Ahasueeus was married to a beautiful but proud Queen Vashti whom he put away and married Queen Esther. If you marry someone because you had a one- night or sinful sex and they got pregnant for you, that is a Sandy foundation and is not necessarily your “own” spouse which can cause resentment, abandonment etc. We have to understand the mind of Christ as shown by his word.
Yes, there few people like you ....
This is so liberating and empowering. Thank you sirs. More grace! It is not only God that hates divorce, we all do because of what it does to us. This is why God does not want us to go through it.
You can say that again. Liberating...
Absolutely
"INEC no dey count prayer point".
True talk!!
Forgiveness does not mean that you should remain with the person. you can forgive and still leave a cheating spouse. You just stop being bitter and hating them or trying to hurt them.
Could imagine God saying to us, “ forgiving you doesn’t mean I let you in my Heaven to live with me forever, I can forgive you and still send you to hell”. No He doesn’t.
Forgiveness means treating others as though they didn’t hurt you. If you are still bitter after forgiving someone, ask God to uproot the bitterness and keep praying until it’s gone. Divorce doesn’t cure the bitterness, betrayal and the other negative emotions that arise from infidelity.
This is actually a privilege to get this insight for free. Thank you Pastor KO and Pst OE for this piece. 🙏
The Spirit of God in us is the unwritten word . Make we be illuminated
Wow!!! God bless you sirs for this!!! Africans need to WAKE UP BEFORE THEY DIE IN MARRIAGE! Use Godly wisdom!! Be patient, MARRY WELL SO YOU WONT HAVE TO DIVORCE. If you are being beaten and physically assaulted or tortured pray for God to give you the strength to separate. Marriage is only for the earth in heaven you will not married so please stay alive to live for your children and your family that loves you!!! 🎉
JESUS!! Pastor is deep…when he spoke on the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus!! 😮💨😮💨😮💨 so good 🔥🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Oh Pastor Dr Olumide Emmanuel!Hasn't changed at all. Came to my school (UI) 17 years ago. Made an indelible impression through his teaching. He shared how he got married to his wife then, never knew he was divorced. Such a sound and funny teacher.
Thank Pastor K for making him treat this topic with such clarity and precision, but I didn't get to hear his divorced gist o.
It is in the part 2, which has been uploaded.
God bless you Pst Olumide and Pst Kingsley for addressing this controversial topic.
You pastors failed to address this topic from the onset of your ministries,when your marriages were rosy..but when divorce gets to your doorsteps,you started preaching it,when lots of people have been kept in bondage,depression,that God hates divorce..
But you pastors have caused the death of lots of people by preaching against divorce and telling them to stay in abusive relationship that God hates divorce..
Pastors should pray for forgiveness for the lives lost under their teachings against divorce..
Thank you for this wholesome conversation. The body of Christ in Nigeria needs more anointed leaders that have such depth and experience...
I love Pastor Olumide's comment on the debate of what gender cheats more
He was in my church few Sundays ago. Very impactful message he preached that day.
Oh praise God! The judgement of God is redemptive in nature! This is so liberating!
This is so relatable. God bless both pastors Olumide and Kingsley for indepth teachings on relationships/marriage.
Yes ooo. There's so many wrong marriages
I believe under certain conditions he will not want you to die in a abusive relationship.
Another Divinely inspired opening episode performance for the spreading of the Good news of Jesus and edification of the church🙌🙌🙌🔥
Dr Olumide is a wise man to the core!!!
This was absolutely phenomenal!!!! The part about mental health was gold❤! Thank you so much sirs! This was so helpful
I admire this servant of God, and I key into his teaching of shedding light to the issue of marriage and divorce. But coming to the issue of Cain in the Bible, the second mark that God place on Cain does not say that they won't kill Cain .
Love this , really enjoy listening to the man of God! More talk of this . How about single mothers would I appreciate more content from both
I can't believe dat i put myself in bondage since 2018, got divorced by a pst after 2yrs of marriage for not being able to get pregnant but medically okay. I'm here holding dat part of scripture dat said if divorce u should remain single for ur entire life and dat made me turning off completely! Now I'm in my late 30s, i have chased away dose dat show interest already hmmmm.Lord give me another chance please i never knew dat am free all dis while 😭😭😭😭😭
Thank u very much men of God for dis relieve u brought to my innocent heart, i feel a heavy burden taken off my hrt/head hmmmm i have bn rescued
Please sir, that’s not what led to “Omugwo,” may be you meant abuse of Omugwo. Omugwo is an ancient Igbo culture for postpartum care. Has a lot of medical benefits. As a matter of fact, this culture is now being inculcated into the American society, but it’s quite expensive. I know you meant well, and may not really understand since you’re from a different culture and background, just a little adjustment.
Thanks for your insightful and liberating teaching that is shaking and breaking all religious tables, especially in Nigeria/African Christian homes
This guy is full of knowledge !!!
I have know this truth long ago, thank God the truth is coming out. Divorce is not a sin.
Great conversation thought I guess one issue to clarify is saying that divorce is not a sin and at the same time it is not god's will is unclear. I think a better way to phrase this is that divorce is not God's best but is something that we should not feel condemned about if they feel they need to take that action. That said, I love the point about leaving by the law of life in Christ Jesus.
Love this man of God already. POWERFUL TEACHER 🔥🔥🔥
Can l like this session a million times ❤this is so enlightening
A very important topic. People should not be stuck in sexless or toxic marriages just for the sake of being married. Life is very short. What's the point of being in a loveless marriage where there is no love, intimacy, respect or communication. As far as I am concerned, there are many other things that can make a couple decide to divorce apart from adultery. What a lot of people fail to realise is even though marriage is supposed to be for better for worse till death do us part, the reality is that many of us are married to the wrong people who aren't meant for us and only discover this when we get married. Only God and see the mind of man and when we get married, we don't know the mind 100% of the other person, and like the saying goes, you can never know someone until you marry and live with them and even when you live with them, we can never know their mind 100 % or what they think or feel about you. I always say that it's not in place of man or the church to judge people who decide to divorce due to unhappiness in the marriage. If I divorce, it's between me and my God because God see many things others don't see happening in the homes of many couples. This life is one life only and why should we let someone either a husband or wife hold us back from being happy and searching and meeting how soul mate or someone we are meant to be with
This is wisdom, it’s when we get to heaven that we will know who is truly saved and renewed in mind , religion as made many people die carelessly, what if the lady who is medical doctor husband did abortion for her on thier matrimonial bed died, who could have tell the story hmmmm, it’s well
Let God just show us mercy and help us to do His will and help us know when we are to lie low or take off
Pastor Kingsley, your teachings are making me wiser. Thank you!
The judgement of God is redemptive in nature... Thank you Sirs
I have always said, the Bible is not the only book of God but it is the famous one. Not everything that happened or God wrote that is on the Bible l believe that very much. The Doctor agrees with me more or less. Thank you so much🙏
I was married for 18yrs and our marriage was never blessed in church. Was in a very difficult marriage but I'm grateful I'm out of it with 3 beautiful children.
What's the take of the children?
Congratulations !!!! Live for God and love your kids .. they'll thank you for saving your life and choosing them!!! Be strong
What an insight and a relief to me.I have held myself because of religion.God help me
Thank you Pastors for enlightening us on this invaluable wisdom and topic. More grace on your lives!!!
The word of God is the STANDAR for TRUE BELIEVERS. What is Yahweh saying? He that hath ear...
Nobody goes into marriage with divorce in mind except those who are marrying for the sake of getting papers of some countries. Question: How would God take those marriages made with the intention to divorce?
Life goes on. God is not punishing people because they married to get papers. They will have to start again and do the right thing.
Please sir Omugwo is an Igbo culture where a mother goes to help her daughter with her new born baby. It has nothing to do with a marriage that has gone bad.
I am sure in using ömugwo" in that context, he meant, that it is those complex issues of a husband and wife being distraught and staying in a loveless relationship, that leads to the enterprise of the complications where the mother sees going to do omugwo as a way to leave the father, and brings about other difficult issues that occur under the name of omugwo
Thank you pastor K for doing this, most pastors will rather not touch this topic, thank you 🙏
It's so refreshing to hear this discussion.However , we should not use these men and women of God that Dr Olumide mentioned as a yardstick to justify the reasons for we wanting to do likewise. While these people have gone through divorce and bounced back, we don't have to. The bible says looking onto Jesus the author and the finisher of our faith. Jesus Christ must be at the centre of our focus. I might be wrong and I am not in anyway judging Dr's decision but I think mentioning these names makes him feel somewhat that it's Ok to go through the same experience.
This is a topic that is so much needed at a time like this...✍️✍️✍️✍️✍️
Please both of you are amazing together!! Power houses! Please more ❤
Being looking out for clarity on this topic. God bless you sir
Divorce started as a rescue for the oppressed!!! Whewwww! What an insightful statement! - thank you Pastor K.
We judge others by their actions and we judge ourselves by our intentions - Dr. Olumide
Divorce is not the perfect will of God, but divorce is NOT a sin.
I love these pastors, always an inspiration
Copeland was worldly, even sung a romantic hit song.
But when He was called into the Kingdom of light it has been Gloria all the way.
Please let's get the facts right
His first marriage was to Ivy Bodiford in October 1955. They had one child; they divorced in 1958. He was then married to Cynthia Davis from 1958 to 1961. Copeland then married Gloria (née Neece) in 1963.
Great and revealing message.
Thank you Pastors for discussing this message that some churches avoid.
And I hope the moderator has not divorced. Might look like justification of their situation. Remember also, because hard times today most marrieges are broken or strained. Most people therefore will be refreshed by an idea like this.
True. Some persons will just want to hear something comfort, whether or not it’s the real truth
What God joined together let no man put asunder therefore divorce is a sin but forgives sinners who repent.
Adultery, irresponsibility, constant disrespect, heartbreaks, pathological lies, and abandonment are not sinful?
But someone that chooses their peace of mind over drama, is a sinner?🤷🏽♀️
Dr Olumide Emmanuel is sound sir!!
Louder sir.
This article examined Mal 2:16 in relation to the prohibition of divorce today in some churches in Nigeria. The text is perhaps the most commonly quoted passage by preachers to support prohibition of divorce, possibly because many of the English versions make it a direct condemnation from God and preachers rarely consider other English versions that read differently. It was found out that the passage relates to certain Jewish men who divorced their native wives and married women of foreign faiths. It was also discovered that in view of Deut 24:14, among other OT texts, Mal 2:16 could not have prohibited divorce. Rather, what it condemns is the purpose of the divorce, namely to marry women of foreign faiths. Hence, Mal 2:16 is relevant in contemporary Nigeria, not as a prohibition of divorce, but in the context of marriage abandonment.
We interpret the bible to suit our situations. 99.9 % of preachers so that it won't appear they are sining, if we read the words of Yahushua Amashia it is plain and clear that's why we don't just marry anyhow you prayerfully choose and marry. There has always been a scripture to read from , the bible even quoted the book of jasper and the book of enouch, meaning they are way older than the (biblia) bible
Matthew 19:7- They asked him, “Why then did Moses command us to give her a certificate of divorce and divorce her?”
8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it has not been so.
9 I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and he who marries her when she is divorced commits adultery.”
10 His disciples said to him, “If this is the case of the man with his wife, it is not expedient to marry.
I feel liberated. Glory to God
We love you PK and Dr. Olumide❤❤❤
Thank you, Pastors Kingsley and Olumide for these deep scriptural insights. And timely too ❤❤❤❤❤👌🏼
I'm truly blessed with this message. Thank you Pastors
I am so blessed watching this. It speaks to my mind exactly what my heart has been yearning to know. Hyprocrisy and religiosity has done more harm than good. May God increase your wisdom sirs. I am looking forward to an episode on Monogamy and polygamy according to the right discerning of the scriptures
😂😂😂😂 pastor Emmanuel is my new pastor I switching teams this papa got word
What is not clear to me is "...whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery" Matt 19:9. Is that not clearly a sin?
True, it becomes a sin
No matter how we interpret,how we think about,God's standard can never change.Divorce is not a sin BUT if you divorce,you stay UNMARRIED otherwise you are committing ADULTERY which is sin.That's what the bible says.Nobody can change it, be you daddy G.O worldwide.
Thats right maybe the person married too early.
2 sometimes you discover you have married the wrong person . When you are already inside.
My dear brother Kingsley Okonkwo, please let us be careful here. Divorce is a sin because it falls short of Gods perfect will. Divorce is as a result of sin caused by couples in marriage. One partner maybe at fault or not but it is a sin. If you are not to blame then it’s a sin against you.
God forgives us when we repent and restores us. God is not mad at one who has failed in marriage, he forgives and restores. And restoration is of the Holy Spirit.
God bless you
Deputy Jesus!!!!! It’s a sin does not mean God Will condemn his children
I think the bible is very clear on divorce and remarriage.
Luke 16:18 says clearly
18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18
This is very very insightful, thank you so much PKO and POE
If its truly God's will, there will be no room for divorce.,.. importantly is to stay in the center of his will.
Thank you for this truth exposed to save many who are dieing in silence
Wow 😮 Thank you so much for this section. More Grace in Jesus Name!
Profound thought provoking conversation...iam glad i stumbled here...wow
Thanks for letting us know the channels daddy. Several concerns addressed in these channels. I have ended up here having watched the part 2. I just had to follow up. It is blessing my circles. The raw truth and backend needs to be heard and discussed that these challenges are real so we should not underestimate them. Its nice to hear from other parties/individuals. A balance
Great talk from Pst Olumide there. Correct and correct.
It's not about if God likes it or not, rather, what happens after divorce. Are you free to remarry? That's the main issue.
Really great message
This is so mind blowing.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm God bless you man of God dont worry your children will surely come back to you..... God is your strength.....cant wait for pt2
may God almighty God blessed this man of truth
Please read 1corint 7 : 27. You can marry and remarry. Some spouse are from the pit of hell .Your peace comes first
This is too deep. So enlightened. Thank you Dr Emmanuel.
God is redemptive... This statement is very deep. God bless you sirs
Yes, forgive adultery but that doesnt mean you have to stay. Especially when they are unremorseful and its their way of life.
God hates divorce full stop. Mal 2 vs 15 - 16. Mtt 19 vs 8 to 9. 1 Corinthians 7 vs 10 - 11. The new testament is very clear on this. May God help us
If its not the perfect will of God is a sin then
Divorce is a sin, however God forgives us and clears the sin thoroughly
Thank God for his grace upon you to share this light
Enlightening and refreshing. God bless you both.
Very insightful. Many must listen to this. God bless you