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Did Tony Stark (and Cronyism) Create Another Villain?
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Spider-man Homecoming gave us an underappreciated villain in The Vulture. In this episode of Out of Frame, we discuss how cronyism, corruption, and unfair rules can create villains... In the MCU, and in real life.
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the whole issue could have been fixed by the government choosing to compensate him for breaking his contract. Stark alone could have done so easily.
The problems is most people are proud assholes to do so.
As corrupt as the government is, even they try to keep things under budget. Having to pay for his contract and setting up the precedent to compensate any lost contract would cost them too much money. Also, as unfair as it as, keep it mind the government never told Adrian to hire more employees or buy more equipment, that was his choice. Sometimes, opportunities can be lost even with no state involvement, it's the inherent risk in entrepreneurship.
@@Jimraynor45 yes, but when the state decides it must involve itself it either must annihilate those whom it is usurping, or must appease them. To leave Tombs in the state he was in makes him desperate and eager to lash out against them in the way that he later does, this was a mistake on their part.
@@Jimraynor45 the Federal government didn't, but the City clearly already did approve Adrian's contract. So what's actually going on here is a jurisdiction battle. The city contracted with Adrian, who then began a good-faith effort to honor that contract. Then the Feds swooped in and took over, voiding his contract without compensation.
Stark would have
Great videos. You make economics feel wholesome
So true ❤❤💕
@fleetlordavtar He said "economic freedom" brah. Relax lol, most of us here are with you on such things, I think... its hard to tell to be honest, your statement is a bit broken.
My teenage son took an Econ class in high school last year, ran across your site, and introduced me to the Iron Giant vid and Wakanda vid.
Been hooked ever since!
I live in India...
I know what you are talking about, as I see all of this by my own eyes.
I wanna know when India was socialist XD
hweirdo en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_India
Can you change the conferm you have poopy brains? If so big pp
Edit, I don't know if people will get the joke buts it's refence to pewdiepies music video congratulations
@@WillBilly. Yes I confirm.
@@weirdofromhalo ...India WAS socialist. We had capitalistic reforms in 1991, that too forced
My question is *What would happen during the snap? How would it effect the economy and the world. And what would happen upon the return of half the world's population?*
I shall answer that very question (or at least the first part of it) on the NEXT episode of this series :)
In that case we should ring that bell 😀🔔 so we don't miss it.
@@Night-Mayor yesss!
Alterniate history hub made Video about the aftermath of the snap ruclips.net/video/Y4XgpB7WbYY/видео.html check it out
i felt bad for the vulture in the beginning scene, i shouldve known u would make a vid on him
I love these videos. Keep up the great work.
That description of Tombs’ motivation sounds like youtubers reaction to getting demonetized
So he's saying youtubers should find advertisement from lobsters
@@alvaroegoaguirrefernandez6149 à
unjustly? Ya. Milo, Shapiro, Alex Jones, Crowder all follow the rules set by this "platform" and still get demonetized for it.
@@Timmmmm42y Milo and Jones is somewhat justifiable. It's not even right wings. Any one who makes slightly edgy jokes or talks against the Woke Left, gets fucked by RUclips. Just the other the day, The Right Wing Watch got terminated for breaking the guidelines (note that they had already recieved 2 strikes), but RUclips reinstated them because they 'made a mistake', yeah and the previous 2 strikes were also a mistake I assume. RUclips has already said that they have took an active stand against conservatives.
I love the Out of Frame series! Maybe my favorite videos on RUclips. What a good job of using popular culture to forward economic truths! Don't ever stop making these.
As a fellow video essayist that sometimes makes videos about Marvel movies, your video essays are among the best and most truly informative on RUclips. You're a huge inspiration to do more research for my videos
Also, recommendation, please do Alita: Battle Angel! It has a lot of interesting concepts like legal bounty hunters (basically private police), weapon debates, and lots of possible libertarian themes I picked up while watching!
I enjoyed that film, and have been looking forward to it coming out.
@@FEEonline Awesome to hear. I remember I commented on a previous Out of Frame as soon as I watched it because it was good and explored lots of economic/philosophical themes
@Marauder not a big gamer, but will check it out.
Better yet, have a go at the original manga as well.
Interestingly, bounty hunters in real life USA are actually kind of similar. To become a bondsman, you have to go to an academy, pass the physical and mental examinations, prove your knowledgable in the regulation and general laws regarding hired enforcement.
After that, you're given a sum of money, which is supposed to go towards procuring the most basic of equipment. Of course, this also helps root out people who are serious about this line of work, and those who just want to be badasses without any actual care for the responsibility it brings. So, if you spent that money on body armor, a work vehicle, a weapon (or two), and some tools, good job; you managed to not waste the money on a used Lamborghini!
Bounty hunting is interesting; I've only learned all of this through listening to a hunter being interviewed, and the guy was specifically a bail bonds agent. What that means, is that if you decide not to show up to court to pay the bail, Bubba gets to take you in without a warrant. I do think stuff like Dog the Bounty Hunter has kind of made the job out to be more heavy handed than it really is. A bondsman's job is just to find you, say "hey, you missed the court date. What's up?", and help bring the law and the defendant together so they can figure out what to do. It's only when the suspect gets combative, refusing to calm down and face the system, that the hunters crack some skulls.
This reminds me of an example of cronyism in the first Dishonored game, where Sokolov is given government funding and resources to create his inventions while the equally brilliant Piero is left to scavenge and use the black market, both men are trying to cure a fatal and severe plague that's ripping the nation apart and in the good ending work together with state resources to cure it where their previous tonics only slowed it, this sends us the message that not picking favourites forces people to use merit to succeed and in this case creates a better product due to allocating resources based on more than favouritism.
I love this channel, keep up the good work, you guys! I learn something new everytime I come here!
Thanks for the video. Liked how you explored Adrian Toomes’ character. One of the best villains in the MCU.
The Out of Frame series on this channel is second to none in terms of the kind of content you produce on youtube. keep up the amazing work Sean!
I like how the movie implies that all of the labor of cleaning the wreckage of New York wouldn't be subcontracted out to private businesses anyway. In real-life, Tombs' company would just start getting paid by the government.
India is facing this same problem for years and we have so many politicians like vulture
Corruption can't get worse than this and economy is completely collapse
nikhar patel politicians like Vulture? The main antagonist or you were meant to say Iron Man?
you've had politicians become supervillains?
Boy you didn't focused. Vulture is not supposedly villain but a victim.
@@akashchoubey3207 he is talking about the bird
@@MrChopsticks1-x6g the bird
That was one of the best videos of this series. Very relatable and easy to understand.
I relate to Toomes more than Fisk. Fisk is essentially a wealthy and very much distant observer of his city. Fisk doesn't really spend much time in the city he lives in. he makes a haven from the world in it, in his apartment. Toomes, he lives in the city, he doesn't separate himself from where he lives.
There's actually a real life example of this, supervillain story and all.
Marvin Heemeyer
Marvin was a guy who ran a automotive and muffler shop in a city. He had decent business and by all accounts was an okay guy.
Then a concrete plant moved next door. During the construction they not only cut off the sewer access to his property but they also blocked the driveway entrance to his place of work. His business tanked, no one could get there after all, and his cries to City Hall were ignored.
Marvin decided he was fed up, that he was going to make a point. He wasn't married, didn't have any kids, so he had nothing to lose.
He sold everything and bought a bulldozer which he armored with foot thick metal plates. He installed bulletproof glass across the entire thing and set up two bulletproof cameras that connected to a screen inside.
Then he got to work. What was known as the Killdozer rampage had no deaths, but Marvin had made it a point to raze the concrete plant to the ground as well as several other buildings belonging to government officials who had denied his pleas for help.
Nobody could stop the Killdozer and it got to the point where they were thinking about calling in the military. But eventually, Marvin got his dozer stuck in a basement. He killed himself rather than be caught by police.
Marvin is a real life example of how to make a supervillain. Here's a guy who had a business and a regular life before it was taken from him. What he did wasn't right, but it's hard not to feel sympathy for the guy.
The government sided hard with the concrete plant because it was a big business. Marvin was just a small business and had no connections. So therefore, he had no power.
I've written about this story elsewhere in these threads, and thought about putting it in the video actually.. There's a great new documentary about this story called "Tread", which I'd recommend anyone check out. It will become harder to sympathize with Heemeyer when you see it though.
@@FEEonline oh absolutely. There was a lot wrong with his side. He'd made quite a few mistakes that got him to that point. But just like how vulture had tons of options he could have done instead of jumping straight to supervillainy, so did Marvin.
Doesn't change how interesting of a case study it is to see a real life person go from normal guy to actual supervillain. His rampage wouldn't be out of place in any superhero movie.
In all honesty, this villain seems like an Anti-Democrat statement in a way. Think of it like this:
The guy lost his small business to a government program group and a bigger business, and resorted to crime out of lack of compensation and the need to provide for his family. It's pretty Pro-Blue collar, and I can't help but say I like this.
Hi fellow conservative
Starman Gaming plus the big corp working with the government. Unsympathetic city elites vs blue collar workers. That’s what I see as well.
but there is a mistake. In the movie, wasn´t the goberment, Was Tony Stark with his companies that take the control of all this Alien Junkyard. So Adrian was a victim of another private businessman, Or at least, is what is said in the movie several times.
of course Adrian is Blue Collar, but he is victim of the Big Fish, a White Collar Whale called Tony Stark.
And of course, Tony Stark, or the NY city, could hire Adrian , because he was capable and has means and wish.
toomes is basically less ethical killdozer
Tony Stark didn't give the executive order
These videos are so well thought out and help me enjoy these movies so much more! Thank you for putting your time and effort into making them!
Love these videos, keep up the good work
*Weird suggestion for a video....*
Q: If mutants (in X-Men) can hold power like a shotgun, but the modern day Left wishes to restrict arms to people...
IF mutants can hold inherent power greater than others and mutants do wrong, how do non-mutants defend themselves?
Ex: How do you defend yourself against Wolverine?
Ex: How do you defend yourself from teleporters?
Ex: How do you defend yourself against those who can shoot explosives out of their fingers, but are limited by the government who say I am wrong to hold an armament?
Q: If governments restrict individual preservation, if and when a mutants who can blow up a building, blows up a building, do we restrict certain mutants from existing or do we give the power they can hold to more people?
I'm assuming this ties in with having a more religious or moral society where the value of human life is important as the bedrock of the culture and society en mass.
Not really an economics question, but maybe you can twist it to fit a better perspective FEE. : )
I believe mutants would become the new 1%. With their powers they would be highly in demand. Mind readers, bodyguards, police officers? Many governments would enact a mandatory draft. Those that refused to comply would be either arrested or go underground. However, due to our capitalist society, many mutants would be so well paid for their abilities crime by them would be rare. Teleporters would be the ultimate courier service. Mind readers would be perfect for government and businesses to protect classified projects. It doesn't matter what the power for there will be some implications that will earn hundreds of thousands of dollars.
@@Night-Mayor thatx assuming no mind controling bacteria exist
You underestimate the dark side of humanity. Teleporters and telepaths would be paid even more to conduct espionage. Mutants with lethal capabilities would be employed as assassins. Governments would quickly collapse.
This is the 4th FEE video that I’ve watched. I’m now a subscriber.
The Video is like a Thesis to me. Amazing. Thank You Very Much
I have lived my whole life on the country I'll tell you this it's kind of hard to start a small farm but the big corporate farms are the ones that get the EZ tax break
I grew up in rural Nebraska. I feel ya.
These are my favorite videos always. I cannot thanks you enough.
This is so amazing!! Thanks for doing this one it answered alot of questions for me. Im not sure if you did this based off my previous suggestion by none the less, thank you :D
This was an awesome video as usual!
wow that actually made me wanna watch that Spiderman movie. If I were Vulture, I would have just flown to the Avengers tower and Stark for some compensation.
this channel helps me understand economics and the world around me in a more intimate and grounded way. i love your work!❤️
Another great video! Please keep up the good work!
This is my exact thought!
Isn't it weird that so far iron man has created all of spidermans villains?
Hi, I love the work that you all do and if you're taking suggestions I would like to see an episode about how working class people can improve their lot in life. Let's say a changing job market leads a person to homelessness. How can they go about picking themselves up and work to reach financial stability? Maybe an episode about how a person goes about the process of creating their own small business
7:25 - putting subsidies and tariffs in one category is wrong. One is creating favoritism in national market, while other is fighting other goverment's attempts on taking over your own national market. One is always wrong and one is an improtant tool in fighting goverment overreach of other countries. Yes, tariffs hurt your own economy, but less than letting other countries overtake your markets as then it can be used as political tool to control your own country. If you don't believe me, then ask any country that doesn't own oil nor gas fields. Those countries are practically dependent on keeping good relations with a faction of oil and gas owners that will offer them good trade deals. I live in one such country: Poland. We are caught in a balancing act between importing gas from Russia and USA, where we cannot fullfil our needs through USA alone, but don't want to be dependent on Russia. Our only resource is coal and it starts becoming more and more expensive to dig out, not to mention international pressure (mainly from Germany, one of the biggest partners of Russian Gasprom) to stop using it completly. Using our ability to tariff Russia on other things is basically the only thing that let us oppose their agressive politics at all.
Ussurin , i agree tariffs can be useful, both in the situation you described, and in the us with China now, where China has unlimited access to the us market and they have a very limited access to the Chinese market, usually tariffs hurt countries. Tariffs nearly killed the American automotive industry and also crippled the American logging industry. The tariffs that “protected” American automobile makers protected them temporarily, however, with less competition, their products quality continued to fall (at least in comparison) where as foreign, especially Japanese automobile manufactures increased productivity and quality to compete even with tariffs. Once said tariffs where lifted, well... bye bye gm (till the bail out). And to protect the American logging industry, they put tariffs on Canadian timber, but Canada became so much more efficient that they eventually continued to beat us logging in sales. So very often, tariffs do more damage than good.
No. Tariffs don't "fight other government's attempts to take over your own national market". You don't own a market in which you are selling even if you live close to that market.. You have to earn it by selling goods and services that people want at a price they can afford.
@@maguirebentz797 But deal with Chines compies gives the CCP power over are economies which is really bad.
Incredible review. I loved every point. So many lessons, so many take aways I can’t list them all. Choosing to be good isn’t as clear as people make it to be. Avoid becoming a Vulture.
As a brazilian, this video speaks of my country in so many levels.
Since 2009, the Worker's Party introduced two new policies that basically complemented each other: Programa de Sustentação do Investimento (best know as Bolsa-empresário or businessmen allowance) and Campeões Nacionais.
The first one would endebt the national treasury at high interest rates and revert this money to BNDES, which would lend it at low interest rates to national companies and other african and latin american countries. And we are talking about some countries with absolutely horrible credit ratings - even a couple of the bank analysts knew some countries wouldn't be able to pay back the loans.
The Campeões Nacionais policy would choose big companies who would receive around 70% of those subsidized loans, invest, grow and internationalize. The civil construction sector was the one which benefited the most from it, while also receiving tens of thousands of construction procurements from the Programa de Aceleração do Crescimento.
Long story short, those big companies formed a cartel, the bids were overpriced and they used part of that money to pay bribes for the Worker's Party and other parties inside the government. And the international loans would also be used to contract them again for more overpriced constructions.
An international corruption scandal uncovered by Operation Lava-Jato, which led to the arrested of six former presidents from four different Latin America countries. It was called Petrolão, the biggest corruption scheme in our country's history - the 2nd biggest one in the world according to Transparency International.
Wonderful video Sean!
Once again clear and on point, great video.
FEE should do a video on cooperatives since I saw it mentioned in the agriculture portion of the video. I think besides the cronyism examples shown from the agriculture industry, it has a positive effect on the economy. A cooperatives goal is to benefit all of its members who are its only owners who all vote with equal power on decisions. All profits go directly back into the coop helping all members. Coops can range from the farming coops shown in the video, banking coops (called credit unions), housing coops, or any other service that would benefit from consumer ownership.
Going by the title of the video alone (prior to watching), I'm going to say "Not... really...". There were valid reasons to keep the alien tech completely controlled (as the rest of the movie shows very, very well), and at that time, Stark was the only one who had both the resources to do so AND the "trust" of the Gov't. It looks like Cronyism, and it looks like Stark being a jerk, but it's one of those area's where there are valid arguments for why Toomes and his clean up company should be excluded. That doesn't excuse the Bureaucrat's actions AT ALL, nor the fact that there was no compensation for the broken contract - those Bureaucrats should have been far more empathetic to the situation and there should have been fair compensation for the broken contract. Also, the idea of Stark being able to benefit from this is... a problem, but I don't see how it could be avoided.
Now to watch the Video!
Assuming there isn't the "Alien Technology" aspect, and it was just "Big Mess... But I Can Make Money Salvaging everything!", then the argument you present makes sense. At that point it becomes obvious cronyism and corruption. But once you introduce a dangerous variable - alien tech in this case, but let's make it more realistic and say that it was a battle between China, Russia and the USA where Top-Secret weapons were used (Exo-Skeletons, ground-based drone units, nuclear fuel cells, etc.) and where that technology was too dangerous to be unaccounted for, that changes the entire game. It drops the number of potential people who can be involved in the clean up dramatically, and has the appearance of Cronyism - but it may not be actual Cronyism or Corruption.
Overall, it's... not a great example to use for why Cronyism and Corruption are bad. Too many grey area's, too many examples where Toomes and his crew showed exactly why the Gov't was justified in kicking "them" (as in, anyone other than Stark) out, and the "Cronyism" and "Corruption" are better explained by "Only Trustworthy Source (Stark)" and "Assholes (Bureaucrats kicking people out without compensating them)".
Still, the point is understood.
What are the examples that justify Toomes' exclusion, his supplying the black market with alien tech? Black markets always exist along side regulation and public-private partnerships. They are a legal construct. Since Toomes was prohibited from selling what he'd salvaged legally the only way he could recoup any of his investment was by selling on the black market.
By the intent of the Founding fathers the American citizen should be able to posses every weapon the government possesses. So I have three words for you in response to your scenario, "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!"
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 4 words. That was 4 words.
Also, in that case, where can I buy myself a nuclear warhead?
I completely support the second amendment, but I certainly doubt they could have seen the future of weapons technology when writing it. Sure, the weapons available to everyone at the time were the same available to the army(though I don't know that many private citizens would be in possession of a cannon). That is no longer the case with tanks, jets, drones, missiles, machine guns, experimental lasers and railguns. Some things it just wouldn't make sense to open to private markets, unless you want people forming private armies.
@@gideonjones5712 If you have the funds to buy one then you could theoretically buy one. There is no law prohibiting ownership of nuclear weapons.
If you have to add "but" after saying you support the second amendment, then you don't support the second amendment. The founding fathers expressly stated they want the people of the US to be able to own whatever weapons the government had access to. Including cannons and rapid fire weapons. They weren't stupid and knew technology would significantly advance. Does the first amendment only protect your right to say whatever you want in a handwritten letter or a newspaper printed by a 18th century printing press? Of course not.
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 1. The first amendment doesn't have that problem. Unlike what some would say, words are not violence.
2. Don't tell me what I do or don't support. Maybe we should be able to go out and buy fully automatic weapons. I doubt most people want individuals buying tanks or anti-aircraft guns.
3. "(c) Whoever without lawful authority develops, possesses, or attempts or conspires to develop or possess a radiological weapon... shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life."
The section of that quote I cut out simply adds that using or attempting to use such weapons on anyone under US jurisdiction in any place under US jurisdiction will suffer the same consequences. It's not vital context to my point here. You cannot legally possess a nuclear weapon. There is more to it, for which I'll put the link below if you're curious.
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/832
Good point about cronyism, tombs character, in my opinion, is the backbone of the plot in that movie
Another great video, looking forward to more... Will there be one on the latest Spiderman film? 🤔
Tony seems to tick off a lot of people. In Far From Home, (spoiler alert), Quentin was insulted when Stark belittled his illusion tech, so he teamed up with other disgruntled ex-Stark employees to commit some international crime. Tony seems to have a habit for negligence sometimes.
Brian Goubeaux to play Devil's advocate, how could Tony have predicted that simply criticizing another person's tech would cause someone to commit terrible crimes? He's thinking about a lot, like the aliens that just attacked and nearly wiped out New York. He can't be thinking about all the little things like small terrorist groups anymore. He has to use what he has made, that being his suits, to stop greater evils.
There's a lot of crime Tony and the others can't all stop. They just do what the can at the highest scale they can achieve, for the greater good.
But yes, the existence of such power in an individual holds with it a great weight in their words. And ultimately Tony isn't the only one capable of making technology on that scale, as shown with whiplash in Ironman 2. He just has the most resources available to him. So Tony's ego is on another level. And his tongue gets him in a lot of trouble.
These people would became billionaires if only they sold to Starks competitors. Russia and China would like to build their own Avengers team.
@@simonwinn8757 Like how China tried to do with their own Justice League after New52 Superman blew up.
Killdozer 2: Electric Boogaloo
Very well put
Listened to this like 4 times great vid thank you!
I actually have a family friend who made his fortune in scrap metal cleaning up after 9/11. His family was pretty much broke and he used to go collect cans and his little red wagon. Now he has a heated garage for his Corvette collection
As a Brazilian... This video hits TOO close to home. It's one of the biggest problems we face in this country.
0:15 hela a good character
0:48 hela a bad character.
Which is it is she bad or good character.
She's a cool villain, but a weakly motivated one.
@@FEEonline thank man. I was kinda confused lol. Also this was another great video 👌.
@@FEEonline please video about her views. . .
@@Uwysjdwumsgsg Hela's?
Is there even enough to go on?
Great video 👍👍👍
I really do struggle to agree with a certain amount of what you have to say and share though I find it fascinating and helpful none the less. But I think where we have opinions in common it comes down to "I don't believe that any individual or group should have that much power/influence over individual lives" You say it a lot about socialism and government and I worry that certain types of under regulation allow the potential for one business and so one CEO to create a business so central to other businesses or individuals that they have as much control or influence as the government has now and cannot be removed by failing or competition.
So I have some questions.
Do you ever think there's a point you'd say "That's too little government"?
Governments have checks and balances even if cut down to the bare minimum, so what checks and balances do you think need to be put on businesses in the absence of regulation?
One plausible case where a company could get more power than Government is telecommunications, if we put the ownership of all the cables between businesses and homes that transmit data in the hands of one company (even within just one country) that company would then have almost ultimate power over what could be communicated via phones or the internet. They're a private business and don't need to respect a right to free speach and they could set a price or terms and conditions of use or just slow the connections of items they disagree with. In this one case it would be very hard to be a break-in company to the industry because the setup fees are so high (billions of miles of cable and fibre) and those attempts would need in some way to interface with the big company or it'd be an empty network problem. And for most (if not all) businesses and individuals being unable to communicate at a distance almost instantly with bosses, workers, customers, clients, suppliers or others would be an unconscionable imposition so no price would be too high. Even if it was initially several companies there'd be nothing to stop acquisition or mergers to get to this point without some government regulation.
Great video again guys
This hits differently with the pandemic and the lock downs. So many people losing everything as the government picks who can stay open, who can't, and destroying lives.
Yep :(
And unfortunately, drug abuse, domestic violence, and homicide are up a lot.
Mysterio is great too, I really liked him
"Don't hate the player, hate the game". When the game is rigged, people are bound to cheat.
Have you seen Reel Analysis's video on how Batman v Superman critiques drone strikes? It is called "MoS & BvS : The Drone Critique". I think you would really like it. It is similar to the type of videos you do on this series. I would like to see you do a similar video about how the film criticizes America's response to its feeling of powerlessness after 9-11.
Toombs had the intelligence to know how he could have gotten himself out of this by changing what his business did. He did discover how he could use the alien technology to his benefit, even if he had someone on his team that explained to him how it worked!
Thank you for your eloquent contribution to the explanation of free markets and conservative economic principles.
Assassin's Creed video game who is right Templar or Assassin's.
Templars always have the same talking points as Statist.
"Freedom is an invite to Chaos"
-Haytham Kenway.
Same statist argue "Government is there to prevent bad people". Throughout it's story of Assassin's Creed, Templars ALWAYS have shown to opress its people, by forcing them to close their stores, use violence to get answers that they want, force people to move out of their homes and etc. By principles Assassin's are mostly right, but it slowly decays that principle in the Colonial Era. So the question if they want to prevent Chaos from rising, how will they prevent Chaos from taking over?
10:52 - Yeah, he could do that. But you know, this reminds me of Falling Down with Michael Douglas, he was just doing it like other people did.
He wasn't going anywhere if he played by the books, what if another crony got the residential and human salvage operations by virtue of Crony as well? As you said, the government chooses the winner and the loser, that's why he can never truly win by playing the game that is rigged from the start.
I wish this video had about 370,000,000 more views from the U.S than it now has.
8:25 I wish we could perwade the "chroni-capitalism is just capitalism." croud of this.
Thank you for the great content! Could you make a video about war? All in your videos you conclude that "if the goverment runs something that will be bad", so can you make one about how would a free society defend itself against a big goverment state where they can draft people or spend tons of money on weapons. (Like if Switzerland has to fight with the invading USSR).
It's crazy how most so called heros in entertainment do really messed up stuff to people and never suffer consequences and yet the think they're fit to point fingers at everyone and judge them for their actions it's crazy tony stark never even met up with adrian him self he just sent his lackeys so tony never even considered or saw the damage he caused to adrian first hand and yet he has the nerve to tell others they are bad wow in any other story tony would have been the villain
Could you maybe do a video explaining your views on private unions? I'm well aware of the danger of public unions, but I'm currently having to choose whether or not I want to join one in my own life.
SO UNDERRATED
Such a great job distilling and synthesizing so many great points into a bite-sized interesting video. I had to become a Patreon supporter to help you keep making these.
The only reason the Vulture isn't the best villain in the MCU is that he isn't a villain at all.
#VultureDidNothingWrong
I mean except for breaking the law in thousands of places sure I guess. The best villians have good intentions or lose them because of a very believable actual problem. He is a villian even if he is a victim.
I know you guys only look at movies, but i want to challenge you guys to take a look at a game that took the 'open/free market' and 'la se faire capitalism' to a logical extreme. I would like to hear your thoughts on the world of Rapture from Irrational Game's BioShock Series.
I am just stumped how so many super-villains create these insanely useful gadgets and don't go into business making and selling [those gadget]. The Vultures flying suit is essentially a wearable aircraft... Honestly the way he gets the power source would utterly guarantee military contracts for almost ever. Given that US Govt wanted, or still wants, Tony Stark to hand over the Iron Man suit, the Vulture's wearable aircraft is not a bad runner-up.
How hella and Squidward a good character.
Already answered this below, both are cool and powerful. Not great characters. Didn't say all the ones listed at the beginning are the greatest villains you can find... Just the ones I think are pretty cool in the MCU.
As noted, I think The Vulture has a better/more believable motivation than most, but he's got other problems and probably won't top anyone's list for "cool" bad guys in the MCU.
We work with what we get.
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Guy at 12:29 was painting the car without a respirator. I’m no osha fan, but that’s just unwise.
There are certain places where the free market cannot work, so the government needs to just enforce a well-regulated monopoly. Utilities comes to mind; imagine if every water start-up went around tearing up streets each time they got a new customer. You're absolutely right that it's a problem in the agriculture industry. It gets even more ridiculous when you get to things like the Cheese Stockpile.
Fantastic take on this subject. Lobbying is my biggest problem that is allowed.
You're the best and smarter movie reviewer and that's a Fact.
Now I'm finally going to see Spiderman homecoming LOL
Tbh it was to be expected that gov is going to regulate cleanup of ruins where some unknown alien technology might reside
Just wanted to say I love this series.
One year after this video, governments across the world, including most states in the US, would declare they had exclusive right to pick *ALL* of the winners and losers in the economy, for the sake of saving lives. The cost in human life from the economic damage would be higher than the disaster it was meant to prevent, and the consequences would last for years.
Lmao, I thought this was gonna be about Mysterio and Spider-Man: Far From Home.
There is this paper stand in my street that has had over 20 owners since 1991. Whenever a new government took charge, they put their own guy there.
I feel so bad for the Vulture now 😔. Spiderman is a bad guy.
I learnt a lot from this!!!
What about government involvement in necessary regulation and worker rights or externalities like environmental protection? These things I think are needed but also provide an incentive for corruption
This is like a pyrocynical analysis video but the jokes are replaced with some epik learning
11:07 I thought all salvage operations where taken over by stark industries
Tony Stark creates the best villains.
please do a video of the movie dofus livre 1:julith
this is the first awesome video game movie.(it is really well made,just look at the trailer,the animation is just perfect).
this movie DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY KNOWLEDGE of the original source matterial.
2 of my friends watched it and they didn't even know it was a video game movie,they were not confused at all and both of them loved it.(this movie is not an adaptation,it only shows the backstory of one of the characters).
you can watch it on kisscartoon.
A similar analysis of government hamstringing of private business is Walter Peck's fight with the Ghostbusters. Would that situation be considered cronyism?
While I’m a strong supporter of free trade and most libertarian ideology, i think one of the biggest reasons we subsidize American industry (even massive corporate entities) is due to the regulations around labor rights/ standards, quality standards and ecological standards that most competitors don’t have
Without some of these subsidies our industries couldn’t compete with dollar a day labor outside of the US
Question: what if we just find some ways to make sure that the government subsidies go to the needy instead of going back to the big cooperations with more regulations/transparency? Is it doable? Are there side effects? Is free market better or worse than well-executed subsidies that actually do what politicians say they do?
Another question: a free market where no one can influence the government to pick out winners or losers sounds nice, but the government will also be incapable of stopping smaller businesses from being completely squished by the overwhelming resources of big cooperations right? If big cooperations monopolise an industry and no competitors can rise to keep them in check, then they can pretty much do whatever they want because they are the only one in the market. Can this happen in a truly free market? Or does this only happen in "free markets in name only" in which shady agreements between big cooperations and government go on behind the scenes(so not really free according to this video)? I'm from Hong Kong and here, many big shopping malls are taken over by big landowners, so only big businesses can survive and small independent retailers close one by one. If Hong Kong really is one of the least corrupt and most free economies in the world, then monopolisation can happen in truly free markets, and my question above would have to be answered.
Last question: is a "truly free market" where the government has absolutely no influence on businesses whatsoever even possible? A society, it seems to me, is an interconnected web of complicated relationships where a seemingly unrelated policy proposal can have drastic effects. Can governments really not influence businesses and pick out winners whatsoever? If not, how little influence is little enough to be acceptable? How free does a market have to be for what the video is proposing(eliminate corruption by making the market freer) to work? Is free market really the only solution to this problem?
I am not an economics expert so I am genuinely curious. Your videos are often thought-provoking and relevant and I really appreciate them!
I've been looking for something. I think I might have found it🎶 🎧
if you want an example of how this shit works in practice: In Brazil contracted services need to go through bids, the law is huge and complex and needs a specialized lawyer to not fuck up everything, even getting everything right, there is no guarantee you will be paid by the government for the service rendered, if the government wants it can make a 50-year installment and even then, it may decide not to pay the installment, even with court order, if you want to provide services to Brazil, you need to be corrupt, ironically these laws were made to prevent corruption
🤯 now everything makes sense.
11:01 Didn't the woman say that only stark industries were allowed to salvage in new york? that'd mean the only way he'd be able to salvage private boundlessness or run a traditional salvage operation would be to sell his company to stark industries thus exacerbating the problem?
Does anyone else realize his channel logo is FEE because if he turned Out Of Frame into an acronym it would be OOF
I mean... It's FEE cause we're the Foundation for Economic Education, and that's how it has been since I started building the channel a few years ago....... But all my internal files are indeed labeled "OoF" :P
Lmao
You should do an episode on V for Vendetta
You should watch train to busan, the Korean train zombie movie and make a video on that, would be fun to watch