That's a really useful and astute coverage of the new wide zoom and Z6 II. I've watched a few reviews on RUclips and they don't come close to covering the important points of the Z system like edge sharpness comparisons between the various comparable lenses, and many other points. TA!
Hey Hudson, aside from your most comprehensive thoughts on gear where you dot every i and cross every t, you said something really profound at the end. About being and staying creative to deal with the trying times we face. Also, as a person gets older, the excitement and thrill of creating something out of thin air is great motivation to get out of bed in the morning, and it brings joy to living, and keeps a person motivated and excited to keep on living. It was a very wise and profound thing to say. 😎👍
the way you feel about the 14-24 2.8 and 70-200 2.8, yeah, if you ever pick up the 24-70 2.8, I think you'll feel the difference there as well! I can't precisely pinpoint what that lens does in its rendering, but I can always tell "oh I must have shot this with the 24-70 2.8 S". Thanks for another great video!
Yeah, the 50 1.8 is also like that. It's so much lighter and amazing in really low light situations that I'm gonna carry that for those in between epic moments and move my feet. I've always done that versus carrying that third giant lens. I'm one of those guys who loves to live at either end of the spectrum more than the middle most of the time. :-) I've handled and shot with it. I know it's awesome. But to be honest, the first 24-70 I've fallen in love with is the F4 because of the size, sharpness and way it handles on the body. It's so perfect to have with you all the time do it all lens.
Handy tip for anyone who feels they've been fiddling with the lens cap to get it on - just look once to make sure the NIKKOR branding on the lens cap is right side up, as in, you can read it straight on. That's how it fits into the sculpted ridges on the lens. If the NIKKOR text is sideways or angled, it will not go on and you will have to fiddle. Thanks for the comprehensive review and insights, Hudson. Cheers.
Great video, I have the Z7 II on pre-order and I am anxiously awaiting it. The more videos I watch on the 14-24 2.8 lens makes me want to order one right now, who needs to make mortgage payments.
Great Subject Hudson ..I just cant afford more NISI filters so a cheaper option for me keep the 14-30 for landscapes , architecture and get the 20 f1.8 S for Milky way etc ..Keep my 24-70 f2.8 S and get the 70-200 f2.8 S plus 2x convertor for Wild life ..If I need 600mm at times switch to DX
Great well thought out plan. That 14-30 is wicked sharp and the 20 1.8 is epic for star work. The MSM tracker I link makes it even better. at 1.8, you can get epic milky ways with 90s @ 800 ISO. Thanks in advance if you consider using my links. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
Great review on the new lens. It's hard not to want these 2.8 pro lenses. One of the real features of the 14-30 S lens is the ability to use 82mm filters which is unique for an ultra wide. A real plus for slowing water and when needing a polarizer. It's currently my favorite S glass and so compact. Well.... that and the 70-200 S which is another amazing lens
I just bought this lens, can’t wait to use it for super wide shots at events and everything else. When I owned the Z6, I did have the 24-70 2.8 s but had to sell my Z system at the time for funds. Now I’m back with the Z6ii and Z7ii and loving them at events with the 50 1.2 and 20 1.8. When there’s more light and I need more distance, I have my 70-200. Looking at that MC 105 2.8 S.
Do you find a need for both 14-24S and 20mm F1.8S? I use the 14-24S all the time for architecture and interior design work, so that lens has paid for itself... But, I really *want* the 20mm prime for astro work, dedicated. While the 14-24S is fine for some wide-angle astro work (untracked), does the 20mm prime offer enough benefit over the 14-24 that it's worth buying it too? Appreciate all the work you put into these videos! I'm gonna need to sign up for one of your workshops some time in the future... Maybe next year!
This is the best review I've seen. Thanks for it. One question, though. Regarding the Focal sharpness test, is that executed at a particular focal length? If so, which one? If it is at 14mm for the first three lenses, it would be nice to compare the 20mm 1.8 with the 14-24mm at 20 mm. Thanks!
ThankYou for another Thoughtful Video, I have been shooting Nikon since my first Nikon FTN in 1969 and shot with it (working at a nationally renowned newspaper in Phoenix , Arizona for nearly two decades) About six years ago I bought and have used a D750 and still use it.... I hope to be able to throw down some cash and get into the Z system !!! LONG LIVE NIKON :) :) :)
Hudson. I’m in trouble. I have my Nikon Z6 II connected to my iPhone via Bluetooth, but haven’t a clue how to set up a series of exposures on SnapBridge. I’m reading the instructions but don’t understand them at all. I know you are busy, but if you can point me in the right direction I’d appreciate it. Thanks, Paul By the way, our upper cargo carrier blew off the car in 65 mph winds. All my cameras and lenses ended up on the highway. Packed well however and no damage. But holy crap! Paul
Hi Hudson thanks for your videos. I’m looking to move back to Nikon after a few years away. One thing that puzzles me is why the dislike for the z system it’s almost poison? Thanks.
Got mine a couple of weeks ago; Just one walk about with it (in -15C snow storm so not a casual stroll LOL) on the Z6. I'm with you, it's a delight of a lens and reminded me why I thought myself stupid a day after I sold my F mount version years ago :)
I love my 16-35/4 FX lens, especially its versatility. I was waiting a bit longer before I made the move over to mirrorless. Videos like this help to cement my decision! I love the Lens Aperture sharpness comparison. Looks like the 14-30/4 will a great lens to update over my 16-35/4!
Thanks for yet another great informative video. A couple of points regarding the Z6 II. Its raw files are not yet supported by Adobe! Is it time to work exclusively with ON1? And I wish one could use the prioritized viewfinder AND get a preview of the photos on the LCD! Right now, (as far as I understood), one has to use the automatic switching mode to get the preview on the LDC, and this draws too much on the battery. (I am trying to avoid the preview in the viewfinder as I find it too disturbing for street photography.) All in all, I was happy to be able to sell my Z6 the day I got the Z6 II. Best,
Awesome review and I just got mine today. I cant wait to hit the beach this weekend. I have really learned a lot from you HH and keep the awesome videos coming.
Good point about putting 12MP lenses on >40MP sensors. When the 2009 Nikkor came out we were still being sold on "lenses optimized for digital" at the time. I've used the 14-24 over ten years and am well acquainted with it. Biggest problem is the big green arc you can generate across the frame and I'm curious how the new lenses behave.
You can hit 'C' to compare images from diff lenses in LR -- might be of use instead of clicking out to Gallery every time. THX for this video ! Was hoping to see more 20 F1.8S thrown in.
Excellent information 🙏... any thoughts on getting a used z6 for landscapes and occasional wildlife... b- roll landscapes for video or go with the new z6ii?
Thank You for showing the photos for the new 14-24 2.8. Wish Nikon would hurry up with the 1.2s. Question, do you think there will be any difference at all between Z7 & Z7 ii for "slow" landscape shots? I have Z7 - first one.
Great video Hudson as always, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on your complete in-depth review of the Z6II. I've been considering upgrading to the Z6 for the past few months and decided to wait due to the fact that I knew these cameras were coming soon. Glad I did. Although for my intended use, the original Z6 is still a more than viable option, I feel that with the refinements that Nikon has made on it, the Z6II is a camera that will withstand the test of time better and therefore, a better investment. Anyway, keep up the good work, all the love from Scotland!
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Skye is absolutely stunning, I really can't recommend you enough to go and visit it. Be ready for some incredibly changing and challenging weather, but the views will be totally worth it. Let me know when you come this way and I'll be more than happy to show you around :)
super tuto. I think i am going to purchase the z 14-30mm F/4 for my z6ii. It looks also very light for video (gimbal or not). I am also very afraid of the price of filters for 112mm (UV, polarizer, VND polarpro, nisi,...). I am surprised beautifl portrait you did. I thought people were distorted below 35mm and we kept 20mm or below from floor to give long legs to girls in fasion shoots :-). Your handheld 1/15sec shoots are quite sharp !
The 14-30 f4 is great. Be careful with traditional 82mm filters on it. They tend to vignette. I can get away with a case magnetic ND. So thin. I have links at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
thank you ! just purchased Z 14-30mm. I think I will try Nisi V7 82mm for it and my Z 24-70 F/2.8. is it normal Z 14-30mm isn't in latest lightroom lens correction list ?
This is all great to hear! Please let us know birds in flight asap! :D I'd love if the ii's can compete with my d500 ... meaning the 7ii on dx mode could be a viable replacement for a d500 which could mean I could start selling off my fmounts (before the prices drop to far) in order to upgade to this beautiful zmount glass. (I'm dying to see the announcement for the 100-400s considering the viability of the zTC 2x)
Thanks for this video! It's the comparison video been looking for. If I could ask a favour, could you please do a video on the focus breathing on this lens? As a landscape photographer, I use focus stacking technique a lot and the current 14-24 f mount is terrible for focus breathing. Wondering if they have improved in this regard. Thanks again and great work!
It doesn't breathe much if any. Thought I mentioned that, sorry if not. None of the Z lenses I've tested do and yes, the old F version was terrible at it.
Can't wait to see the Z super telephotos on the new bodies. I hope Nikon is going to release a 300mm F2.8 and a 500mm F4. Already the 300mm F2.8 from 2009 is still one of the best lenses ever created, imagine what that lens would do if it designed for the Z mount.
that 14-24 is AWESOME! it's on my xmas wish list. Another great video. thank you. update: I'm definitely not a patient person. If I can't do something lightening fast, it's not for me. Whether it's a project, learning, whatever. Make it go faster. So I was pretty surprised when this video ended. I was absorbed. A rare occasion as you might have gathered. so again, thank you Hudson. My Z6 has two lenses, the z24-70/4S and the z70-200/2.8S and now, maybe It'll get the 14-24/2.8 stable mate. who'd have thought it. LOL
Good review. I've been considering the new 14-24 and I'm thinking that I will go for it; once it becomes wildly available. I don't see getting rid of the 14-30 (it will go into my travel kit).
As Nikiin hybrid shooter Im still on the fence about the Z cameras. If Sony is offering video and stills backup from nearly 3 years ago, what are Nikon up to. Plus the mixed media and limited recording time aren't helpful. You can pretty well guess what the A74 will be like, its going to offer a substantial package.
Thanks for the video. I have been desiring this lens for some time. Good to hear it performs well. When might we be blessed to see some astro work with the 14-24 2.8?
Just got the Nikon 10-20mm dx to use with my Z50 and boy is this lens + the adapter heavy. I told myself this'll be the last lens I buy but if Nikon puts out a 10-20mm Z DX i'll probably fold.
My 14-30S lives on my Z50. I had the 10-20, and I sure loved those AF-P lenses. I still wish Nikon would update all of their lenses to AF-P. Especially the 180mm 2.8D.
@@skyrunr Not gonna lie, i spent so long with AF-S on my D5200 that I got used to the auto-focusing sound being loud. Now sometimes I can't even tell if the lens has refocused or not when viewfinding lol.
@@TheWillRogers Yes, it took some getting used to when I went to AF-P lenses. I kind of wish Nikon would redo all of their f-mounts with AF-P technology. :)
Hi! I love your video and am now considering the 14-24. Can you please tell me if you recommend using a uv filter or some filter just to protect the glass? And if you do will that take away the outstanding image quality? Thanks
I carry a Kase magnetic UV for the HB-97 hood to use in rough situations and no, I don't see image degradation. It's a fabulous filter. I have links to the filters and the lens at www.hudsonhenry.com/astlinks Thanks for considering using them. You won't regret that lens. I ADORE mine. :-)
I have looked at a number of tests, including astro tests, and it seems the 14-24S is actually better than the prime 20mm f1.8, even when both are at f2.8... I find that a little bit shocking as I would expect much more from the 20mm f1.8 being prime, especially stopped down 1+1/3 ! However the tests didn't take into account the color rendition, it was more about stars and aberrations. I suspect (and hope) the color rendition and shadow depth would be better with the prime.. Anyhow, your feedback would be appreciated :)
Have you used the z14-24 for astro photography yet? What was the result? Does the z14-30 mm perform well with astro, or do the stars on the fringes show the stigma or coma that is common in wide angle lenses?
No. You can take your F-mount lenses to the very short flange Z mount with the FTZ adapter, but you can't move a Z lens to any other camera. It has the shortest flange distance on the market. That's the distance from the rear element to the sensor. That gives two advantages to the Z mount. 1. Having the elements so close to the lens with such a wide opening means the engineers can really do magical seeming things optically and 2. you can use an adapter to mount anyone else's lens to your mount, but no one can adapt your lenses to another mount.
Great video. Will hang on to my 14-30 for now as I have the 20mm prime for low light and can just do a panno for wider. Sigma's art 14-24 was a little better than the Nikon but a beast. This is an incredible new z lens. Perfect for the landscape photographer and really puts Nikon ahead in this genre. Great review Have you tried the focus recovery through power cycle. Seems like a great feature for astro and focus pulling. It's in the menu to turn on
I really wish you had gotten the z6 II in in time to test the lenses on it with the 24 MP sensor. I know the z7 and z7 II are higher resolution so I was wondering if I would see much difference in sharpness between the 14-24 z and the 14-30 z on the z6 II as there is on the z7 II. I'm a hobbyist and it's hard to justify the cost of the 14-24 but I spend my money on what I want. I have the Tamron 14-24 G2 and the Sigma sport 70-200 and both have focus breathing issues. I know both the 14-24 and the 14-30 have very little if any focus breathing problems. At some point I might sell my two lenses and get the z lenses for the 24-70 and 70-200. I do want them in f/2.8 but I don't need f/2.8 in a wide angle. I also have the new 20mm for astro. If I need 14mm I can always get the Samyang 14mm. Plus there's the added cost of the new filters for the 14-24. I really don't want to have to carry 2 sets of filters or pay up to $1000 on top of the lens that's $1500 more. I think the 14-30 will do what I need it to do on the z6 II? Your thoughts on that?
The 14-30 and 24-70 F4 S lenses are phenominal. Both are stunningly sharp on both the Z7 and z6 bodies. I'm excited for the new 24-120 too. It may replace my 24-70. I didn't buy the 2.8 24-70 because the F4 was so good and small. I do adore the 14-24 S, but I'm an ultra wide junkie. If I hadn't tried it, I'd have been happy with the 14-30 even on the Z7ii. Nikon has yet to release even a mediocre Z lens. The 20 and 50 1.8s are faves of mine too. I can't recommend the Rokinon any more though. The S glass 14s just destroy even the SP 2.4 I got rid of mine. You're much better with the 20 1.8 and a move shoot move tracker.
Oh, I will always test lenses on the highest res body I have to better judge thier strengths and weaknesses. A great lens will let you better uprez for print on the z6ii and be more future proof as megapixels climb in future bodies you buy. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I've been thinking about getting the move shoot move tracker. It's not that expensive and cheaper than a lens. The only problem I have with it is I'd have to drive to another location to get a clear sky for the tracked shots. I live in north Alabama and there are trees everywhere. There's a lot of farms around too but it's all private property.but that would be fine if I'm doing a blue hour shot for the foreground. I've been trying that a little more this year to get a clean shot of the foreground. It's a lot easier to shoot especially if I need to focus stack the foreground.
Thank you for the review of 14-24 2.8 S. Have you done an analysis on the effects of auto distortion correction in LR on the sharpness, micro contrast in the corners? If so, your comments are appreciated.
Nice review! Thanks a lot! If you can make a side by side AF comparison between Z6 and Z6 ll in video mode? How faster and accurate Z6 ll AF in video relatively first Z6?
I'll add that to the list. To be honest... I mostly use manual focus when I'm operating the camera for video except in more static situations where face and eye detect work with a subject. In those cases I find they work incredibly well already on the first generation Z6 and Z7 that I can't imagine much room for improvement. I film a lot of my videos (including this one) with the Z6 and the 50 1.8 wide open with AF-F and Eye detect. It's crazy how it tracks me. I don't even worry about it any more.
Have you tested the HDMI delay out of the new Z6 II? The delay out on the origial Z6 is 6 to 9 frames, depending on the mode. 6 frames at 24fps is a quarter of a second, which is crazy slow.
It is. I use Blackmagic's ATEM mini and have to set an 8 frame delay when I use it as a webcam. :-) I haven't yet, but I'll check. With the dual processing, let's hope that improves too.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Really interested in what you find. I run my Z6s with Atomos Ninja Vs so it would be nice to be able to cut down that delay to something a bit more manageable.
Thank you for a super review. I have a question: What is your opinion about the teleconverters for the Z series lenses. Does the 70-200mm S lens loose any picture quality? Thank you for your input.
Hi Linda. I haven't tested them yet. I have a good friend I trust who swears the 1.4 is perfect with the 70-200. My guess is that with as good as this glass is, the TC's are also going to be epic. I want to test the 2.0 and 1.7 as soon as they are out on the 70-200. The 1.7 would be really sweet. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks Hudson for getting back to me. I value your input. It really is one awesome lens. Looking forward to your review when you do one.
There is a lot of places where you want to take whole scene at once or 24-70mm can't help enough. 14-24mm has its own place to fill that need. Fore Nikon shooter, 14-24 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 could be "must-have-trio" anyways..
I prefer the 14-24, 24-120, 100-400 but we all have different needs and tastes. The minute I tried those new f4s the 24-70 and 70-200 S lenses went up for sale. More versatile for what I do and sharp as hell. I've got primes for low light and subject separation when needed.
My Z6II just came in this afternoon. So far, not real impressed with the animal eye focus - more testing needed. The FTZ needed a firmware update - had no idea an adaptor had firmware! My XQD card reader did NOT work with the CFexpress card; had to order a new card reader. It's just a bit different from the Z7 that there is a learning curve so I'm working on leveling that. I have the 14-30mm (used the heck out of my 12-24mm on the D500) but oddly enough, the wide angle has not received the love I expected. Hoping the Z6II can give my D500 a run for its' money in the action department. Finally got notified I can order a 500mmPF lense (since getting on the list April 2019!) but dang, think now I'll wait to see what Z glass in the telephoto range comes available. :^)
That may be a wait and the 500pf is pretty dang great on the FTZ... Yeah XQD and cfexpress are a different interface. Cfexpress is pci which makes it way faster. I'm a fan of Pro Grade's readers. If you're on PC you'll need to assign them drive letters every time you format them too. Microsoft hasn't tagged the format as flash memory yet I guess. No such worries on my Mac though. I haven't tried animal eye detect yet, but Human eye detect is very impressive and I love the wide area support for that. Adobe hasn't added any support for the NEF files yet. Not even the latest dng converter... Ah the joys of the bleeding edge. :)
I have read that the 14-30mm Z has a forced profile correction in it's Exif that is forced , to the point where lightroom does NOT allow you to turn it off. This is a huge issue for me as in nature wide field I use the distortion to really make foreground elements bulge/pop. Does nikon force this in software like lightroom on the 14-24mm S as well? I also do not think 112mm threaded filters gives anyone a decent solution for CP or ND filter use... I love nikon but they are freaking nuts if they think that helps us lol.
I believe the 14-30 has some distortion removal included that you'd have no desire to turn off. Nothing that's extreme. The 112s are absofreakinglutely wonderful. I've always advocated 82mm so you can size down from bigger glass, but you still have vignetting issues with ultrawides. No more. I can stack several magnetic 112s at 14 with zero vignetting. I can use it on my 95mm 500PF. It fits 3 of the four lenses in my bag by simply snapping the shared 112 hood in place with a 1/4 twist. No threading at all except to put an adapter on my 24-70 F4 from 72-112. Goodbye stuck threads and vignetting. Quarter twist and the hood is in place, pull the filter out and click it's in place, big enough to cover anything you throw at it and all the top S glass is designed to accept it. It's absolutely amazing and with the thin filters from Kase it takes less room in my bag for 6 of them than it did for traditional threaded 82s. It's a killer system.
Im on the edge of buying the 14-24 2.8. Lots of night scapes and low light events and i want to get in to astro more. I currently have the 24-70 4S 50mm 1.8S. How is the 14-24 2.8S on 24mm vs the 24-70 4s on 24mm?
The 24-70 in incredibly sharp at 24mm even wide open and in the corners. That's what keeps me from getting the 24-70 2.8. Well that and having the 50 like you. The 14-24 is certainly a bit sharper, but you'll rarely notice it without extreme pixel peeping. But just remember that 14 is nearly 42% wider than 24mm. It lets you render the world and especially night scenes in an entirely new way. Hit me up with any follow ups via email. I can't recommend this lens highly enough to those who can afford to add it to the kit. If you'd consider using my links, I'd surely appreciate it. :-) www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
Great review again :-) I have this lens on the way so really good to know it’s a good investment. Got the z6 II this week, can’t process raws Lightroom at the minute being the only issue :-/ any ideas ?
Sadly for some reason the latest DNG converter isn't even reading them yet. This is the first time I've encountered that with a new camera. Come on Adobe! Till then shoot RAW plus jpeg and save the RAW files to import.
Are you sure about 12 bit prores compatibility out of box? The information that I get, the camera still need to be sent to Nikon for 12 bit prores compatibility update, and pay 200$ + shipping.
Yep. Got this in my inbox from Atomos this week. I already updated the Ninja V. Just need to test: "The Nikon Z 6II mirrorless camera The Z 6II is the latest full-frame mirrorless camera to join the Nikon family, inheriting the standout features from its predecessor the Z 6 along with some exciting new enhancements. These new features include the Dual EXPEED 6 image processing engines for superior Eye-Detection AF and Animal-Detection AF, subject tracking, and more; as well as superior dust and drip resistance for use in harsh environments, along with expanded support for NIKKOR Z lenses now boasting support for18 models including teleconverters. The continuous variety of lenses allows for greater flexibility when shooting in ProRes RAW. The Nikon Z 6II when combined with Atomos Ninja V HDR monitor-recorder will output 4K UHD or full-HD 12-bit RAW. These features are now readily available with the Nikon Z 6II and Atomos Ninja V users will just need to update their monitor-recorder with the latest firmware available on the Atomos website."
Not sure if I'm in the minority, but there are literally thousands, if not millions of users still planning on keeping our DSLR's, so I do find some of the mirrorless video's interesting, but not to the point where I'll spend thousands of hard earned $$ to switch, as so far, I've not seen image improvement with the Z system 'in the images' worthy of all the $$ it takes to change over, and I'm quite happy with the output of my DSLR. With that said, I'm thankful you put what your planning on discussing in the title, as those of us uninterested in the Z system, we can pass over the videos. I tend to keep all 'Hudson Henry' e-mails on upcoming video's, and I've watched them, with the raves of things becoming easier...but easy isn't my priority, it's capturing the composition I want, and my DSLR is doing that just fine. Not sure how many DSLR owners have, or may drop watching these video's, but I thought it worthwhile to perhaps get you to continue with some regular FX system video's for that reason. Hey, it never hurts to hope, as I know some still using film cameras, and the forums are full of DSLR questions/answers still thankfully, and will for decades to come.
I appreciate that Dale. I was in your camp after trying and hating a lot of mirrorless systems before the z6 arrived at my door two years ago. I was sure I'd send it back and go right back to my beloved D850. Instead I ate some crow, ordered a Z7 and never looked back. I'll always mix in post production and adventure and the art of photography in ways that are as applicable to phones as they are to film or DSLRs. But... I can't imagine going back to DSLRs after two years with the Z's. And I'll disagree and state unequivocally that the image quality they squeeze from the new glass for this system is significantly superior. That wider mount and shorter flange distance is making new things possible. I was blown away by how far the light little F4 outperforms my beloved old huge 14-24 2.8 F mount. Blown away, it's not even close. The new 14-24 2.8S is simply mind bending, but not necessary for most. The F4 is so good. The future is definitely moving away from the DSLR at a faster and faster pace. The good news if you change your mind is that the best nikon F glass adapts perfectly to the Zs. The bad news is you can't use this crazy new S glass on the DSLRs. :(
Oh, despite them being shot on the Z7. Look at the lens comparisons in this video. Think of the Z7 being the D850's sensor (identical to Z7) testing these 3 lenses and you might check out the sample images and FoCal aperture sharpness test results in this video to see what I mean about the 14-24 2.8 F vs the two new lenses. It's interesting.
great video, is there a way you could put a link so we can download raw files so we compare , i really need to see how much sharper the 14-24mm compared to the 14-30, i cant see it on the video @at f 8 maybe i can see it when i download it
The funny thing is that it's subtle the difference at F8 between those two. Email me hi@hudsonhenry.com and I'll share a DB link. If you don't need the fast aperture, I think the size, weight, price and versatility of the F4 makes it no contest. Where the 2.8 will shine is stars and ultra-low lit event work handheld or ultra wide shallow depth of field stuff.(wedding details, etc.). For landscape work in daylight to twilight, the F4 is a serious winner.
@@bluemystic7501 nope, but if you're an image quality nut like me, then don't try it if you don't want to buy it. It's more than a bit... The 14-30 F4 S is a bit better than the AF-S F2.8 and the 14-24 S is significantly better than the 14-30. The short flange distance and wider mount opened up insane advancements from Nikon's optical engineers. The new F4 glass thumps the old 2.8 glass across the board. The old 14-24 was designed for film and 12mp. 36mp began to expose its corner weakness and focus breathing was a huge issue if stacking or shooting video. The new one is clearly ready for 100mp to the corners wide open with nearly zero breathing.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Devil's advocate take: improvements to edge-to-edge sharpness and 100mp sensors mean nothing when all of our work is down-res'd for websites and Instagram, lol.
@@bluemystic7501 and if that's your goal, you can easily use a d700 with a 14-24 AF-S or far lesser lens. No issues. My goal is always very large print capability. If it fails that test, I'm not happy. :) different photgraghers have different needs. In the D700 days I regularly did 30 frame panoramic mergers to get results my clients could print huge at trade shows. The 14-24 AFS was fine for that. Now that it's 3-6 frames for that same quality, I need the new version. ;)
For me coming from the fujifilm 10-24mm f4 I see a monumental improvement when compared to my 14-30mm f4. For landscape photographers there's pretty much no reason to get the faster lens. Looking at the charts between f8 and f11i think unless your pixel peeping, you'll never really see a noticeable improvement.
Oh man. You will LOVE this one. It's so nice. It and the 50 are favorites. :-) If you consider using my links in the video description I'd be hugely appreciative.
Really looking forward to seeing the night shots. I was thinking about getting the 14-30 but 14-24 really seems impressive. Now I am just curious to see how it compares to the prime lenses. Also I cannot wait for 28mm compact and the 105 macro to drop.
Thanks again for the great video and especially for the detailed real-life comparison between the 14-30/4 and 14-24/2.8. I think, it is time for me to move forward towards the 14-24/2.8. Thanks again and stay safe! Thomas
Well I have tried to update firmware via the snapbridge app but did not get any notification or option in menus of camera or the app about firmware update via snapbridge! It seems this option would come in future!
Nikon has always gone wider with the 14-24. They've never made a 16-35. It's funny we're all different. Whenever I pick up a 16-35 I'm like "this thing just isn't wide enough." :-)
You are really inspiring , We can really see passion in your videos!. Can't wait to check out the next one 🙂! We also create video and we would love if you could check them out ❤️!
Hey Hudson Here's a link to Breakthrough Filters which has a complete line of filters for the new Nikon 14-28 f2.8 S lens. Apparently they've been VERY proactive! Thanks for your EXCELLENT information regarding this new lens. I was vascillating about buying one, but your outstanding video completely changed my mind! Thanks! Here's the Breakthrough Filters link: breakthrough.photography/products/14-24mm-nikon-x4cpl
They make nice stuff. I tested them a while back and generally preferred Hoya's Solas and HD3 lines. I know the fan base is die hard though. :) NISI and Kase reached out and since Hoya doesn't yet cover 112mm, I thought I'd test them. Good stuff, and the NiSi IRND is impressive like hoya's Solas. I'm planning to put them head to head. Solas are the best I've tried. Kase is coming out with a 112 magnetic kit for the 14-24 that looks interesting too. Kase is making some innovative stuff. Thin, durable, magnetic, optically great and more affordable.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I'm very impressed with Kase filters too. How innovative!! Breakthrough is coming out with their own line of magnetic filters in a couple of months too. Although I'm not familiar with Solas, I'd like to keep an open mind about them. Just to let you know, I'm really enjoying your vlogs. Very informative and very much appreciated! Have a GREAT weekend, and I look forward to seeing you again on RUclips! Thanks man!!
How are you able to download the raw files? None of adobes products will read the files. I contacted them and they said it would at least be a month which is discouraging.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I have the latest version of photoshop and Lightroom along with the subscription plan and Lightroom nor Lightroom cc will read the raw files. Jpegs will open fine. Called Adobe and they stated LR wouldn’t read the raw files until the next update. What am I missing here lol?
My apologies. You're totally right. I'm a bit sleep deprived. I shot all these on the Z7 to have the much higher resolution for lens testing. What I've shot with the Z6ii is still on the CF-Express card. At this point, you'll need to download Adobe's DNG converter to work in LR until they get the next update with the new camera. helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html You run the folder through that, it outputs DNG's which you can import. It seems like they take longer and longer to add new camera support these days. I remember waiting quite a while with the Z50 and Z7. I really don't like DNG, so I keep a RAW copy of of any really important files to import when support arrives.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto the dng converter also doesn’t work. I still have my first gen z6 and Z7 so I guess I’ll continue using those in the meantime. I shot a couple hundred images on the z6 2 and I love the camera for sure. I think the autofocus had definitely improved and really like the other additions as well. Sort of a bummer that I can’t use the raw files though.
Wow, I just tried with the latest one. You're right. I've never gotten a camera before Adobe had support with DNG converter. Yikes. Come on Adobe! I'll keep an eye on it.
That's why I have a chapter on why the F4 14-30 is plenty for folks who don't do milky way, ultra low light handheld event work or wide angle shallow depth of field work. Scroll the timeline. I'm pretty explicit about that. Still if you're a perfectionist, this lens is superior at every aperture. A lot compared with the old 14-24, less compared to the 14-30. That's true in the center, but even more true at the edges.
Interesting video but rather then shooting F/22 sunstars you do really need to focus on the continuing glaring shortcoming in Nikon mirrorless cameras, fast action subject tracking. Nikon has again produced a clumsy architecture for subject tracking but such might be acceptable if auto tracking produced accurate and speedy high hit counts across all conditions.
Funny, with the latest firmware update on the Z6 and Z7 I'm getting about a 90% hit rate in continuous high speed shooting birds in flight and kitesurfing with my 500 on the FTZ adapter: ruclips.net/video/FW8LMgs2UU8/видео.html When did you last test the Z cameras' AF tracking? I'll bet you'd be surprised what they've done in firmware. The Z6ii's dual processor seems to make it even better, but I need to get out testing more fast action like that section of video I linked or birds in flight. Sadly I feel that a lot of the hating on Nikon's AF with mirrorless is either a vestige from their half baked initial 1.0 AF firmware or simply sponsored by competitors. I haven't felt the need to reach for my D500 at all based on AF needs in quite a while.
You don’t have to say your sorry for the long one, the video was just full of extremely useful information, Thank you. Central New Jersey
That's a really useful and astute coverage of the new wide zoom and Z6 II. I've watched a few reviews on RUclips and they don't come close to covering the important points of the Z system like edge sharpness comparisons between the various comparable lenses, and many other points. TA!
Hey Hudson, aside from your most comprehensive thoughts on gear where you dot every i and cross every t, you said something really profound at the end. About being and staying creative to deal with the trying times we face. Also, as a person gets older, the excitement and thrill of creating something out of thin air is great motivation to get out of bed in the morning, and it brings joy to living, and keeps a person motivated and excited to keep on living. It was a very wise and profound thing to say.
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the way you feel about the 14-24 2.8 and 70-200 2.8, yeah, if you ever pick up the 24-70 2.8, I think you'll feel the difference there as well! I can't precisely pinpoint what that lens does in its rendering, but I can always tell "oh I must have shot this with the 24-70 2.8 S". Thanks for another great video!
Yeah, the 50 1.8 is also like that. It's so much lighter and amazing in really low light situations that I'm gonna carry that for those in between epic moments and move my feet. I've always done that versus carrying that third giant lens. I'm one of those guys who loves to live at either end of the spectrum more than the middle most of the time. :-) I've handled and shot with it. I know it's awesome. But to be honest, the first 24-70 I've fallen in love with is the F4 because of the size, sharpness and way it handles on the body. It's so perfect to have with you all the time do it all lens.
Handy tip for anyone who feels they've been fiddling with the lens cap to get it on - just look once to make sure the NIKKOR branding on the lens cap is right side up, as in, you can read it straight on. That's how it fits into the sculpted ridges on the lens. If the NIKKOR text is sideways or angled, it will not go on and you will have to fiddle. Thanks for the comprehensive review and insights, Hudson. Cheers.
Great video, I have the Z7 II on pre-order and I am anxiously awaiting it. The more videos I watch on the 14-24 2.8 lens makes me want to order one right now, who needs to make mortgage payments.
It's an epic, epic lens, but there always is that dang need for shelter and food... ;-)
Great Subject Hudson ..I just cant afford more NISI filters so a cheaper option for me keep the 14-30 for landscapes , architecture and get the 20 f1.8 S for Milky way etc ..Keep my 24-70 f2.8 S and get the 70-200 f2.8 S plus 2x convertor for Wild life ..If I need 600mm at times switch to DX
Great well thought out plan. That 14-30 is wicked sharp and the 20 1.8 is epic for star work. The MSM tracker I link makes it even better. at 1.8, you can get epic milky ways with 90s @ 800 ISO. Thanks in advance if you consider using my links. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Will certainly do Hudson
Great review on the new lens. It's hard not to want these 2.8 pro lenses. One of the real features of the 14-30 S lens is the ability to use 82mm filters which is unique for an ultra wide. A real plus for slowing water and when needing a polarizer. It's currently my favorite S glass and so compact. Well.... that and the 70-200 S which is another amazing lens
Yeah, the 14-30 is a fabulous lens too. But... :-)
I just bought this lens, can’t wait to use it for super wide shots at events and everything else. When I owned the Z6, I did have the 24-70 2.8 s but had to sell my Z system at the time for funds. Now I’m back with the Z6ii and Z7ii and loving them at events with the 50 1.2 and 20 1.8. When there’s more light and I need more distance, I have my 70-200. Looking at that MC 105 2.8 S.
Do you find a need for both 14-24S and 20mm F1.8S? I use the 14-24S all the time for architecture and interior design work, so that lens has paid for itself... But, I really *want* the 20mm prime for astro work, dedicated. While the 14-24S is fine for some wide-angle astro work (untracked), does the 20mm prime offer enough benefit over the 14-24 that it's worth buying it too? Appreciate all the work you put into these videos! I'm gonna need to sign up for one of your workshops some time in the future... Maybe next year!
This is the best review I've seen. Thanks for it. One question, though. Regarding the Focal sharpness test, is that executed at a particular focal length? If so, which one? If it is at 14mm for the first three lenses, it would be nice to compare the 20mm 1.8 with the 14-24mm at 20 mm. Thanks!
ThankYou for another Thoughtful Video, I have been shooting Nikon since my first Nikon FTN in 1969 and shot with it (working at a nationally renowned newspaper in Phoenix , Arizona for nearly two decades) About six years ago I bought and have used a D750 and still use it.... I hope to be able to throw down some cash and get into the Z system !!! LONG LIVE NIKON :) :) :)
Finally proper review ✨🙌👌 i think 14-30mm f4 is true winner for me 😊
It's so surprisingly great.
Hudson. I’m in trouble. I have my Nikon Z6 II connected to my iPhone via Bluetooth, but haven’t a clue how to set up a series of exposures on SnapBridge.
I’m reading the instructions but don’t understand them at all.
I know you are busy, but if you can point me in the right direction I’d appreciate it.
Thanks,
Paul
By the way, our upper cargo carrier blew off the car in 65 mph winds. All my cameras and lenses ended up on the highway. Packed well however and no damage. But holy crap!
Paul
Wow. Thank goodness! Just use the built in bracketing without snapbridge. That's not going to work for you.
This type of review is dangerous for my bank account :-)
Great video as usual and thanks for explaining the benefits of the new Z mount version
Hi Hudson thanks for your videos. I’m looking to move back to Nikon after a few years away. One thing that puzzles me is why the dislike for the z system it’s almost poison? Thanks.
Love the details you videos just got my z6ii and love keep them coming
Got mine a couple of weeks ago; Just one walk about with it (in -15C snow storm so not a casual stroll LOL) on the Z6. I'm with you, it's a delight of a lens and reminded me why I thought myself stupid a day after I sold my F mount version years ago :)
I love my 16-35/4 FX lens, especially its versatility. I was waiting a bit longer before I made the move over to mirrorless. Videos like this help to cement my decision! I love the Lens Aperture sharpness comparison. Looks like the 14-30/4 will a great lens to update over my 16-35/4!
Thanks for yet another great informative video. A couple of points regarding the Z6 II. Its raw files are not yet supported by Adobe! Is it time to work exclusively with ON1? And I wish one could use the prioritized viewfinder AND get a preview of the photos on the LCD! Right now, (as far as I understood), one has to use the automatic switching mode to get the preview on the LDC, and this draws too much on the battery. (I am trying to avoid the preview in the viewfinder as I find it too disturbing for street photography.) All in all, I was happy to be able to sell my Z6 the day I got the Z6 II.
Best,
Awesome review and I just got mine today. I cant wait to hit the beach this weekend. I have really learned a lot from you HH and keep the awesome videos coming.
Thanks Ben! Enjoy.
Good point about putting 12MP lenses on >40MP sensors. When the 2009 Nikkor came out we were still being sold on "lenses optimized for digital" at the time. I've used the 14-24 over ten years and am well acquainted with it. Biggest problem is the big green arc you can generate across the frame and I'm curious how the new lenses behave.
You can hit 'C' to compare images from diff lenses in LR -- might be of use instead of clicking out to Gallery every time. THX for this video ! Was hoping to see more 20 F1.8S thrown in.
Excellent information 🙏... any thoughts on getting a used z6 for landscapes and occasional wildlife... b- roll landscapes for video or go with the new z6ii?
Thank You for showing the photos for the new 14-24 2.8. Wish Nikon would hurry up with the 1.2s. Question, do you think there will be any difference at all between Z7 & Z7 ii for "slow" landscape shots? I have Z7 - first one.
You bet, short answer... No. :) I'm betting I probably review it and return it. I think the z6ii for action. Z7 for tripod work.
Great video Hudson as always, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on your complete in-depth review of the Z6II. I've been considering upgrading to the Z6 for the past few months and decided to wait due to the fact that I knew these cameras were coming soon. Glad I did. Although for my intended use, the original Z6 is still a more than viable option, I feel that with the refinements that Nikon has made on it, the Z6II is a camera that will withstand the test of time better and therefore, a better investment. Anyway, keep up the good work, all the love from Scotland!
Thanks so much Kevin. My grandmother was a Campbell who's parents were from the Isle of Skye. I need to get there one day. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Skye is absolutely stunning, I really can't recommend you enough to go and visit it. Be ready for some incredibly changing and challenging weather, but the views will be totally worth it. Let me know when you come this way and I'll be more than happy to show you around :)
I can not wait to see the combo of this camera and the 500mm pf!
super tuto. I think i am going to purchase the z 14-30mm F/4 for my z6ii. It looks also very light for video (gimbal or not). I am also very afraid of the price of filters for 112mm (UV, polarizer, VND polarpro, nisi,...). I am surprised beautifl portrait you did. I thought people were distorted below 35mm and we kept 20mm or below from floor to give long legs to girls in fasion shoots :-).
Your handheld 1/15sec shoots are quite sharp !
The 14-30 f4 is great. Be careful with traditional 82mm filters on it. They tend to vignette. I can get away with a case magnetic ND. So thin. I have links at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
thank you ! just purchased Z 14-30mm. I think I will try Nisi V7 82mm for it and my Z 24-70 F/2.8. is it normal Z 14-30mm isn't in latest lightroom lens correction list ?
there is a "i" saying profile is embedded !!! no idea how to check without it but it is already nice to know.
This is all great to hear! Please let us know birds in flight asap! :D I'd love if the ii's can compete with my d500 ... meaning the 7ii on dx mode could be a viable replacement for a d500 which could mean I could start selling off my fmounts (before the prices drop to far) in order to upgade to this beautiful zmount glass. (I'm dying to see the announcement for the 100-400s considering the viability of the zTC 2x)
Thanks for this video! It's the comparison video been looking for. If I could ask a favour, could you please do a video on the focus breathing on this lens? As a landscape photographer, I use focus stacking technique a lot and the current 14-24 f mount is terrible for focus breathing. Wondering if they have improved in this regard. Thanks again and great work!
It doesn't breathe much if any. Thought I mentioned that, sorry if not. None of the Z lenses I've tested do and yes, the old F version was terrible at it.
Can't wait to see the Z super telephotos on the new bodies. I hope Nikon is going to release a 300mm F2.8 and a 500mm F4. Already the 300mm F2.8 from 2009 is still one of the best lenses ever created, imagine what that lens would do if it designed for the Z mount.
that 14-24 is AWESOME! it's on my xmas wish list. Another great video. thank you. update: I'm definitely not a patient person. If I can't do something lightening fast, it's not for me. Whether it's a project, learning, whatever. Make it go faster. So I was pretty surprised when this video ended. I was absorbed. A rare occasion as you might have gathered. so again, thank you Hudson. My Z6 has two lenses, the z24-70/4S and the z70-200/2.8S and now, maybe It'll get the 14-24/2.8 stable mate. who'd have thought it. LOL
Good review. I've been considering the new 14-24 and I'm thinking that I will go for it; once it becomes wildly available. I don't see getting rid of the 14-30 (it will go into my travel kit).
Thanks Robert. Appreciate the feedback.
As Nikiin hybrid shooter Im still on the fence about the Z cameras. If Sony is offering video and stills backup from nearly 3 years ago, what are Nikon up to. Plus the mixed media and limited recording time aren't helpful. You can pretty well guess what the A74 will be like, its going to offer a substantial package.
Thanks for the video. I have been desiring this lens for some time. Good to hear it performs well. When might we be blessed to see some astro work with the 14-24 2.8?
Ha, as soon as I get a chance. I'm very optimistic about it. :)
Thanks,Hudson. Great episode!
Just got the Nikon 10-20mm dx to use with my Z50 and boy is this lens + the adapter heavy. I told myself this'll be the last lens I buy but if Nikon puts out a 10-20mm Z DX i'll probably fold.
My 14-30S lives on my Z50. I had the 10-20, and I sure loved those AF-P lenses. I still wish Nikon would update all of their lenses to AF-P. Especially the 180mm 2.8D.
@@skyrunr Not gonna lie, i spent so long with AF-S on my D5200 that I got used to the auto-focusing sound being loud. Now sometimes I can't even tell if the lens has refocused or not when viewfinding lol.
@@TheWillRogers Yes, it took some getting used to when I went to AF-P lenses. I kind of wish Nikon would redo all of their f-mounts with AF-P technology. :)
Hi! I love your video and am now considering the 14-24. Can you please tell me if you recommend using a uv filter or some filter just to protect the glass? And if you do will that take away the outstanding image quality? Thanks
I carry a Kase magnetic UV for the HB-97 hood to use in rough situations and no, I don't see image degradation. It's a fabulous filter. I have links to the filters and the lens at www.hudsonhenry.com/astlinks Thanks for considering using them. You won't regret that lens. I ADORE mine. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thanks much Hudson.
Thank you for the video! Does the VR on 70-200 works with in body stabilization at the sometime or does one get tuned off? Thank you!
So early the timeline chapters haven't been added yet :)
Greetings from Ireland Hudson, love your content!
I have looked at a number of tests, including astro tests, and it seems the 14-24S is actually better than the prime 20mm f1.8, even when both are at f2.8... I find that a little bit shocking as I would expect much more from the 20mm f1.8 being prime, especially stopped down 1+1/3 ! However the tests didn't take into account the color rendition, it was more about stars and aberrations. I suspect (and hope) the color rendition and shadow depth would be better with the prime.. Anyhow, your feedback would be appreciated :)
Have you used the z14-24 for astro photography yet? What was the result? Does the z14-30 mm perform well with astro, or do the stars on the fringes show the stigma or coma that is common in wide angle lenses?
Hi Hudson great video very informative and well presented. Can I ask is the Z 14-24 F2.8 interchangeable to the D850?
No. You can take your F-mount lenses to the very short flange Z mount with the FTZ adapter, but you can't move a Z lens to any other camera. It has the shortest flange distance on the market. That's the distance from the rear element to the sensor. That gives two advantages to the Z mount. 1. Having the elements so close to the lens with such a wide opening means the engineers can really do magical seeming things optically and 2. you can use an adapter to mount anyone else's lens to your mount, but no one can adapt your lenses to another mount.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thank you for that information take very good care of yourself . The reply is very much appreciated. All the very best.
Great video. Will hang on to my 14-30 for now as I have the 20mm prime for low light and can just do a panno for wider. Sigma's art 14-24 was a little better than the Nikon but a beast. This is an incredible new z lens. Perfect for the landscape photographer and really puts Nikon ahead in this genre. Great review
Have you tried the focus recovery through power cycle. Seems like a great feature for astro and focus pulling. It's in the menu to turn on
I really wish you had gotten the z6 II in in time to test the lenses on it with the 24 MP sensor. I know the z7 and z7 II are higher resolution so I was wondering if I would see much difference in sharpness between the 14-24 z and the 14-30 z on the z6 II as there is on the z7 II. I'm a hobbyist and it's hard to justify the cost of the 14-24 but I spend my money on what I want. I have the Tamron 14-24 G2 and the Sigma sport 70-200 and both have focus breathing issues. I know both the 14-24 and the 14-30 have very little if any focus breathing problems. At some point I might sell my two lenses and get the z lenses for the 24-70 and 70-200. I do want them in f/2.8 but I don't need f/2.8 in a wide angle. I also have the new 20mm for astro. If I need 14mm I can always get the Samyang 14mm. Plus there's the added cost of the new filters for the 14-24. I really don't want to have to carry 2 sets of filters or pay up to $1000 on top of the lens that's $1500 more. I think the 14-30 will do what I need it to do on the z6 II? Your thoughts on that?
The 14-30 and 24-70 F4 S lenses are phenominal. Both are stunningly sharp on both the Z7 and z6 bodies. I'm excited for the new 24-120 too. It may replace my 24-70. I didn't buy the 2.8 24-70 because the F4 was so good and small. I do adore the 14-24 S, but I'm an ultra wide junkie. If I hadn't tried it, I'd have been happy with the 14-30 even on the Z7ii. Nikon has yet to release even a mediocre Z lens. The 20 and 50 1.8s are faves of mine too. I can't recommend the Rokinon any more though. The S glass 14s just destroy even the SP 2.4 I got rid of mine. You're much better with the 20 1.8 and a move shoot move tracker.
Oh, I will always test lenses on the highest res body I have to better judge thier strengths and weaknesses. A great lens will let you better uprez for print on the z6ii and be more future proof as megapixels climb in future bodies you buy. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I've been thinking about getting the move shoot move tracker. It's not that expensive and cheaper than a lens. The only problem I have with it is I'd have to drive to another location to get a clear sky for the tracked shots. I live in north Alabama and there are trees everywhere. There's a lot of farms around too but it's all private property.but that would be fine if I'm doing a blue hour shot for the foreground. I've been trying that a little more this year to get a clean shot of the foreground. It's a lot easier to shoot especially if I need to focus stack the foreground.
Thank you for the review of 14-24 2.8 S. Have you done an analysis on the effects of auto distortion correction in LR on the sharpness, micro contrast in the corners? If so, your comments are appreciated.
Not yet. What blew me away was how good it was with all that turned off. There just isn't much but vignetting wide open to correct.
The 14-24mm f2.8 is sharper wide open than the 14-30mm f4? Now that's really impressive!
Nice review! Thanks a lot!
If you can make a side by side AF comparison between Z6 and Z6 ll in video mode? How faster and accurate Z6 ll AF in video relatively first Z6?
I'll add that to the list. To be honest... I mostly use manual focus when I'm operating the camera for video except in more static situations where face and eye detect work with a subject. In those cases I find they work incredibly well already on the first generation Z6 and Z7 that I can't imagine much room for improvement. I film a lot of my videos (including this one) with the Z6 and the 50 1.8 wide open with AF-F and Eye detect. It's crazy how it tracks me. I don't even worry about it any more.
Have you tested the HDMI delay out of the new Z6 II? The delay out on the origial Z6 is 6 to 9 frames, depending on the mode. 6 frames at 24fps is a quarter of a second, which is crazy slow.
It is. I use Blackmagic's ATEM mini and have to set an 8 frame delay when I use it as a webcam. :-) I haven't yet, but I'll check. With the dual processing, let's hope that improves too.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Really interested in what you find. I run my Z6s with Atomos Ninja Vs so it would be nice to be able to cut down that delay to something a bit more manageable.
Thank you for a super review. I have a question: What is your opinion about the teleconverters for the Z series lenses. Does the 70-200mm S lens loose any picture quality? Thank you for your input.
Hi Linda. I haven't tested them yet. I have a good friend I trust who swears the 1.4 is perfect with the 70-200. My guess is that with as good as this glass is, the TC's are also going to be epic. I want to test the 2.0 and 1.7 as soon as they are out on the 70-200. The 1.7 would be really sweet. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks Hudson for getting back to me. I value your input. It really is one awesome lens. Looking forward to your review when you do one.
There is a lot of places where you want to take whole scene at once or 24-70mm can't help enough. 14-24mm has its own place to fill that need. Fore Nikon shooter, 14-24 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 could be "must-have-trio" anyways..
I prefer the 14-24, 24-120, 100-400 but we all have different needs and tastes. The minute I tried those new f4s the 24-70 and 70-200 S lenses went up for sale. More versatile for what I do and sharp as hell. I've got primes for low light and subject separation when needed.
My Z6II just came in this afternoon. So far, not real impressed with the animal eye focus - more testing needed. The FTZ needed a firmware update - had no idea an adaptor had firmware! My XQD card reader did NOT work with the CFexpress card; had to order a new card reader.
It's just a bit different from the Z7 that there is a learning curve so I'm working on leveling that. I have the 14-30mm (used the heck out of my 12-24mm on the D500) but oddly enough, the wide angle has not received the love I expected. Hoping the Z6II can give my D500 a run for its' money in the action department.
Finally got notified I can order a 500mmPF lense (since getting on the list April 2019!) but dang, think now I'll wait to see what Z glass in the telephoto range comes available. :^)
That may be a wait and the 500pf is pretty dang great on the FTZ... Yeah XQD and cfexpress are a different interface. Cfexpress is pci which makes it way faster. I'm a fan of Pro Grade's readers. If you're on PC you'll need to assign them drive letters every time you format them too. Microsoft hasn't tagged the format as flash memory yet I guess. No such worries on my Mac though. I haven't tried animal eye detect yet, but Human eye detect is very impressive and I love the wide area support for that. Adobe hasn't added any support for the NEF files yet. Not even the latest dng converter... Ah the joys of the bleeding edge. :)
I have read that the 14-30mm Z has a forced profile correction in it's Exif that is forced , to the point where lightroom does NOT allow you to turn it off. This is a huge issue for me as in nature wide field I use the distortion to really make foreground elements bulge/pop. Does nikon force this in software like lightroom on the 14-24mm S as well? I also do not think 112mm threaded filters gives anyone a decent solution for CP or ND filter use... I love nikon but they are freaking nuts if they think that helps us lol.
I believe the 14-30 has some distortion removal included that you'd have no desire to turn off. Nothing that's extreme. The 112s are absofreakinglutely wonderful. I've always advocated 82mm so you can size down from bigger glass, but you still have vignetting issues with ultrawides. No more. I can stack several magnetic 112s at 14 with zero vignetting. I can use it on my 95mm 500PF. It fits 3 of the four lenses in my bag by simply snapping the shared 112 hood in place with a 1/4 twist. No threading at all except to put an adapter on my 24-70 F4 from 72-112. Goodbye stuck threads and vignetting. Quarter twist and the hood is in place, pull the filter out and click it's in place, big enough to cover anything you throw at it and all the top S glass is designed to accept it. It's absolutely amazing and with the thin filters from Kase it takes less room in my bag for 6 of them than it did for traditional threaded 82s. It's a killer system.
How do you edit in Lightroom since no one has z611 support
Probably 4-6 weeks Adobe says
Any suggestions
Nikon has their Capture NX software. You can download for free off their website. You can convert the RAW's to Tiffs, then export to Lightroom.
Im on the edge of buying the 14-24 2.8. Lots of night scapes and low light events and i want to get in to astro more. I currently have the 24-70 4S 50mm 1.8S. How is the 14-24 2.8S on 24mm vs the 24-70 4s on 24mm?
The 24-70 in incredibly sharp at 24mm even wide open and in the corners. That's what keeps me from getting the 24-70 2.8. Well that and having the 50 like you. The 14-24 is certainly a bit sharper, but you'll rarely notice it without extreme pixel peeping. But just remember that 14 is nearly 42% wider than 24mm. It lets you render the world and especially night scenes in an entirely new way. Hit me up with any follow ups via email. I can't recommend this lens highly enough to those who can afford to add it to the kit. If you'd consider using my links, I'd surely appreciate it. :-) www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto the 50 is on its own lane.. Love that lens. Will do when i buy it! Thanks for the video's.
Great review again :-) I have this lens on the way so really good to know it’s a good investment. Got the z6 II this week, can’t process raws Lightroom at the minute being the only issue :-/ any ideas ?
Use adobe dng converter. It will read the dng files
Sadly for some reason the latest DNG converter isn't even reading them yet. This is the first time I've encountered that with a new camera. Come on Adobe! Till then shoot RAW plus jpeg and save the RAW files to import.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto yeah it’s a little frustrating. I’ve been using NX-D to convert to tiff and then import into LR but still not ideal :-(
Are you sure about 12 bit prores compatibility out of box? The information that I get, the camera still need to be sent to Nikon for 12 bit prores compatibility update, and pay 200$ + shipping.
Yep. Got this in my inbox from Atomos this week. I already updated the Ninja V. Just need to test:
"The Nikon Z 6II mirrorless camera
The Z 6II is the latest full-frame mirrorless camera to join the Nikon family, inheriting the standout features from its predecessor the Z 6 along with some exciting new enhancements. These new features include the Dual EXPEED 6 image processing engines for superior Eye-Detection AF and Animal-Detection AF, subject tracking, and more; as well as superior dust and drip resistance for use in harsh environments, along with expanded support for NIKKOR Z lenses now boasting support for18 models including teleconverters. The continuous variety of lenses allows for greater flexibility when shooting in ProRes RAW.
The Nikon Z 6II when combined with Atomos Ninja V HDR monitor-recorder will output 4K UHD or full-HD 12-bit RAW. These features are now readily available with the Nikon Z 6II and Atomos Ninja V users will just need to update their monitor-recorder with the latest firmware available on the Atomos website."
That said. i do see there will be an upgrade available to shoot Black Magic RAW that will require the send in ala the Z6.
Not sure if I'm in the minority, but there are literally thousands, if not millions of users still planning on keeping our DSLR's, so I do find some of the mirrorless video's interesting, but not to the point where I'll spend thousands of hard earned $$ to switch, as so far, I've not seen image improvement with the Z system 'in the images' worthy of all the $$ it takes to change over, and I'm quite happy with the output of my DSLR. With that said, I'm thankful you put what your planning on discussing in the title, as those of us uninterested in the Z system, we can pass over the videos. I tend to keep all 'Hudson Henry' e-mails on upcoming video's, and I've watched them, with the raves of things becoming easier...but easy isn't my priority, it's capturing the composition I want, and my DSLR is doing that just fine. Not sure how many DSLR owners have, or may drop watching these video's, but I thought it worthwhile to perhaps get you to continue with some regular FX system video's for that reason. Hey, it never hurts to hope, as I know some still using film cameras, and the forums are full of DSLR questions/answers still thankfully, and will for decades to come.
I appreciate that Dale. I was in your camp after trying and hating a lot of mirrorless systems before the z6 arrived at my door two years ago. I was sure I'd send it back and go right back to my beloved D850. Instead I ate some crow, ordered a Z7 and never looked back.
I'll always mix in post production and adventure and the art of photography in ways that are as applicable to phones as they are to film or DSLRs. But... I can't imagine going back to DSLRs after two years with the Z's. And I'll disagree and state unequivocally that the image quality they squeeze from the new glass for this system is significantly superior. That wider mount and shorter flange distance is making new things possible. I was blown away by how far the light little F4 outperforms my beloved old huge 14-24 2.8 F mount. Blown away, it's not even close. The new 14-24 2.8S is simply mind bending, but not necessary for most. The F4 is so good. The future is definitely moving away from the DSLR at a faster and faster pace.
The good news if you change your mind is that the best nikon F glass adapts perfectly to the Zs. The bad news is you can't use this crazy new S glass on the DSLRs. :(
Oh, despite them being shot on the Z7. Look at the lens comparisons in this video. Think of the Z7 being the D850's sensor (identical to Z7) testing these 3 lenses and you might check out the sample images and FoCal aperture sharpness test results in this video to see what I mean about the 14-24 2.8 F vs the two new lenses. It's interesting.
Thank you for the video. I have a little question plz. Do you think any 112mm filter size will fit on this lens or they have different thread pitch?
Any normal 112 filter should work just fine. Nikon's never gotten proprietary like that.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thank you
great video, is there a way you could put a link so we can download raw files so we compare , i really need to see how much sharper the 14-24mm compared to the 14-30, i cant see it on the video @at f 8 maybe i can see it when i download it
The funny thing is that it's subtle the difference at F8 between those two. Email me hi@hudsonhenry.com and I'll share a DB link. If you don't need the fast aperture, I think the size, weight, price and versatility of the F4 makes it no contest. Where the 2.8 will shine is stars and ultra-low lit event work handheld or ultra wide shallow depth of field stuff.(wedding details, etc.). For landscape work in daylight to twilight, the F4 is a serious winner.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto thanks for the reply, i sent you the email
I own the 14-24G and it's pretty clear that the S version is a bit better, BUT I don't think an 'upgrade' will make me any more money.
@@bluemystic7501 nope, but if you're an image quality nut like me, then don't try it if you don't want to buy it. It's more than a bit... The 14-30 F4 S is a bit better than the AF-S F2.8 and the 14-24 S is significantly better than the 14-30. The short flange distance and wider mount opened up insane advancements from Nikon's optical engineers. The new F4 glass thumps the old 2.8 glass across the board. The old 14-24 was designed for film and 12mp. 36mp began to expose its corner weakness and focus breathing was a huge issue if stacking or shooting video. The new one is clearly ready for 100mp to the corners wide open with nearly zero breathing.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Devil's advocate take: improvements to edge-to-edge sharpness and 100mp sensors mean nothing when all of our work is down-res'd for websites and Instagram, lol.
@@bluemystic7501 and if that's your goal, you can easily use a d700 with a 14-24 AF-S or far lesser lens. No issues.
My goal is always very large print capability. If it fails that test, I'm not happy. :) different photgraghers have different needs. In the D700 days I regularly did 30 frame panoramic mergers to get results my clients could print huge at trade shows. The 14-24 AFS was fine for that. Now that it's 3-6 frames for that same quality, I need the new version. ;)
Is the 14x24 good for sports?
For me coming from the fujifilm 10-24mm f4 I see a monumental improvement when compared to my 14-30mm f4. For landscape photographers there's pretty much no reason to get the faster lens. Looking at the charts between f8 and f11i think unless your pixel peeping, you'll never really see a noticeable improvement.
20 f/1.8 S for me, please and thank you. The 20 1.8 was my favorite f-mount. I suspect I'll also like the S version.
Oh man. You will LOVE this one. It's so nice. It and the 50 are favorites. :-) If you consider using my links in the video description I'd be hugely appreciative.
Really looking forward to seeing the night shots. I was thinking about getting the 14-30 but 14-24 really seems impressive. Now I am just curious to see how it compares to the prime lenses. Also I cannot wait for 28mm compact and the 105 macro to drop.
After buying and testing the 70-200 f2.8 S I have no doubt this lens is unreal. Probably the one I will be saving for.
Yeah, they're playing on another level really with this new mount. This lens is bonkers. I LOVE it. :-)
Thanks again for the great video and especially for the detailed real-life comparison between the 14-30/4 and 14-24/2.8. I think, it is time for me to move forward towards the 14-24/2.8. Thanks again and stay safe! Thomas
Well I have tried to update firmware via the snapbridge app but did not get any notification or option in menus of camera or the app about firmware update via snapbridge! It seems this option would come in future!
There isn't a camera update yet. I imagine they will update snapbridge when the first ii body firmware updates are available.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto There is a new update! :)
Ha! You're right. Thanks for the heads up. :) bummer snapbridge didn't work... I'll test that again too.
How did they still not fix the max. aperture f/5.6 when zooming in issue... 😫
I'm waiting to hear back. I'm hopeful.
What lens do you use for BIF?
Quels réglages avez vous fait sur FN1 et FN2 sur votre Z6II? Merci
I will do a complete setup video in the next week. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Merci beaucoup
Great Video..
Are we sure on the pro-res raw output, I was told it still needed to be sent in and you had to pay for the upgrade?
Yep. Totally sure. Just got a note from Atomos that the Z6ii update for the Ninja V was ready to roll with the camera. I just need to test it.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto interesting. As Nikon told me the cameras didn’t have the pro-res update and still needed to be sent off for that.
A 16-35 2.8 like Canon woulda been perfect. I hope Nikon adds it
Nikon has always gone wider with the 14-24. They've never made a 16-35. It's funny we're all different. Whenever I pick up a 16-35 I'm like "this thing just isn't wide enough." :-)
How much is that software and does it work with any camera?
Only nikon and Canon. It's linked in the video description.
You are really inspiring , We can really see passion in your videos!. Can't wait to check out the next one 🙂! We also create video and we would love if you could check them out ❤️!
nice vid
Hey Hudson
Here's a link to Breakthrough Filters which has a complete line of filters for the new Nikon 14-28 f2.8 S lens. Apparently they've been VERY proactive!
Thanks for your EXCELLENT information regarding this new lens. I was vascillating about buying one, but your outstanding video completely changed my mind!
Thanks!
Here's the Breakthrough Filters link:
breakthrough.photography/products/14-24mm-nikon-x4cpl
They make nice stuff. I tested them a while back and generally preferred Hoya's Solas and HD3 lines. I know the fan base is die hard though. :)
NISI and Kase reached out and since Hoya doesn't yet cover 112mm,
I thought I'd test them. Good stuff, and the NiSi IRND is impressive like hoya's Solas. I'm planning to put them head to head. Solas are the best I've tried.
Kase is coming out with a 112 magnetic kit for the 14-24 that looks interesting too. Kase is making some innovative stuff. Thin, durable, magnetic, optically great and more affordable.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I'm very impressed with Kase filters too. How innovative!! Breakthrough is coming out with their own line of magnetic filters in a couple of months too. Although I'm not familiar with Solas, I'd like to keep an open mind about them.
Just to let you know, I'm really enjoying your vlogs. Very informative and very much appreciated!
Have a GREAT weekend, and I look forward to seeing you again on RUclips!
Thanks man!!
What eye piece is that?
amzn.to/3dQd5HG Frequently updated links to it and all the things I use are here: www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
How are you able to download the raw files? None of adobes products will read the files. I contacted them and they said it would at least be a month which is discouraging.
Imported them without a hitch in the latest update to Lightroom the day I got the camera. ON1 Photo RAW reads them fine too.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I have the latest version of photoshop and Lightroom along with the subscription plan and Lightroom nor Lightroom cc will read the raw files. Jpegs will open fine. Called Adobe and they stated LR wouldn’t read the raw files until the next update. What am I missing here lol?
My apologies. You're totally right. I'm a bit sleep deprived. I shot all these on the Z7 to have the much higher resolution for lens testing. What I've shot with the Z6ii is still on the CF-Express card. At this point, you'll need to download Adobe's DNG converter to work in LR until they get the next update with the new camera. helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html You run the folder through that, it outputs DNG's which you can import.
It seems like they take longer and longer to add new camera support these days. I remember waiting quite a while with the Z50 and Z7. I really don't like DNG, so I keep a RAW copy of of any really important files to import when support arrives.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto the dng converter also doesn’t work. I still have my first gen z6 and Z7 so I guess I’ll continue using those in the meantime. I shot a couple hundred images on the z6 2 and I love the camera for sure. I think the autofocus had definitely improved and really like the other additions as well. Sort of a bummer that I can’t use the raw files though.
Wow, I just tried with the latest one. You're right. I've never gotten a camera before Adobe had support with DNG converter. Yikes. Come on Adobe! I'll keep an eye on it.
$2,400 yeowch I need to make more money
l auto focus du Z6 ii et le le Z6 sont les même juste un peu plus rapide sur le nouveau mais sur les animaux toujours aussi mauvais.
ffs. Who shoots wide open? I prefer f.8, and be there.
That's why I have a chapter on why the F4 14-30 is plenty for folks who don't do milky way, ultra low light handheld event work or wide angle shallow depth of field work. Scroll the timeline. I'm pretty explicit about that. Still if you're a perfectionist, this lens is superior at every aperture. A lot compared with the old 14-24, less compared to the 14-30. That's true in the center, but even more true at the edges.
Thanks Henry. Like you I desire one of these, but unlike you, as I've got the 14-30 I cannot say I actually need it!
Interesting video but rather then shooting F/22 sunstars you do really need to focus on the continuing glaring shortcoming in Nikon mirrorless cameras, fast action subject tracking. Nikon has again produced a clumsy architecture for subject tracking but such might be acceptable if auto tracking produced accurate and speedy high hit counts across all conditions.
Funny, with the latest firmware update on the Z6 and Z7 I'm getting about a 90% hit rate in continuous high speed shooting birds in flight and kitesurfing with my 500 on the FTZ adapter: ruclips.net/video/FW8LMgs2UU8/видео.html When did you last test the Z cameras' AF tracking? I'll bet you'd be surprised what they've done in firmware. The Z6ii's dual processor seems to make it even better, but I need to get out testing more fast action like that section of video I linked or birds in flight. Sadly I feel that a lot of the hating on Nikon's AF with mirrorless is either a vestige from their half baked initial 1.0 AF firmware or simply sponsored by competitors. I haven't felt the need to reach for my D500 at all based on AF needs in quite a while.