Universal Audio adds Sound City Studio Plug-in
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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This one is for the nerds. How do you like to use room reverbs on your mixes?
I like to use room mics and/or room plug ins to create a unique space for the music to live in. I never had any UAD stuff before they went native so didn’t have the pleasure of using ocean way, but I do have T-verb from eventide and used it in exactly the same way, to give a sense of space and depth and personality to recordings done in dry or small or generally less than ideal locations. This Sound City plug sounds incredible to my ears and the tweakability is epic. I definitely want to try this out. It’s a lot to drop on a single plug in even at the slightly discounted intro price, but it truly might be worth it as it’s right up my avenue… Christmas is around the corner I guess
I like to use a room verb send on my drum crush bus. Low pass to taste. Sounds huge 🤌
a good room is the key to good sounding music - thanks for your video!
Hey Andrew! I bought this earlier today and came across your video later. 3D musical motion, spatially, within songs and commercial music are a long held interest of mine. Rooms and miking are the best foundation to accomplish that. This plug in inspires me to do remixes of old home studio recordings. Your video inspired many ideas and excitement to get to work. Thank you!
Hey heads up, if you're using the plugin on a send, I think it needs to be on the reverb option. Re-mic is for replacing the original recording otherwise you will have phasing issues when used in parallel.
I think he checked the fase of his mics. It sounded good.
Guys from UAD said you could do either..
@@sinewaves1631 But the the plugin specifically doesn't let you use the mix knob in re-mic mode. Surely that indicates that it's not meant to be used in parallel, right?
@@rome8180 - not necessarily - fx returns should always be used at 100% wet mix. Years ago and the common practice - sends go to time based processors, and they're always 100% wet, return on the board to their own channels for levels and processing.
That being said, I found this on UA's site:
Learning Re-Mic Mode
First off, it’s important to know how and when to use the two different modes of operation - Re-Mic and Reverb. These modes process signals in fundamentally different ways. When Ocean Way Studios is in Re-Mic mode, the original signal itself is completely replaced. The processed sound inherits the sonic characteristics of Ocean Way's acoustics, source dispersion patterns, and microphones with more accuracy and realism than is possible with typical reverb processing.
The concept is similar to that of guitar reamping, where previously recorded guitar tracks are routed out of the DAW, into a guitar amplifier, and then re-recorded using a microphone. The original guitar track is then replaced in the DAW with the new track, inheriting the sonic characteristics of the amp, room and mic.
You should note that Mic proximity and bleed will be much more present when using Re-Mic mode, and that using the multiple mic pairs (Near/Mid/Far) requires more attention to possible phase issues - just like it would with actual multi-mic recordings. Experiment with the Mic Distance encoders and the Polarity buttons to shape your optimal sound and avoid phase issues.
Tracks processed with Re-Mic mode should be set up as an individual insert, or as an auxiliary group if you are processing multiple signals.
Using Reverb Mode
In Reverb mode, the Ocean Way Studios plug-in behaves like most artificial reverb processors - such as the EMT 140 or Lexicon 224 - where the "direct" source-to-mic signal component is not actually part of the processed signal. During mixing, this processed ambience is then blended with the dry sound. Fantastic results can be obtained with this method, and it may be exactly the sound you're looking for. Reverb mode should be set up as a traditional send/return effect or as a dedicated insert on an individual track. I recommend the former, as it gives you the ability to apply many sources to just one instance of the plug-in. We recommend using Reverb mode when recording in real time through Apollo audio interfaces.
@@rome8180 Maybe so but I've had great results myself with it on re-mic mode as an insert. That definitely sounded different and better to my ears then it put it on insert mode. Phasing issues are definitely more of a possibility but you'll notice that quickly enough if any occur. :)
This is insane. Who would’ve thought you can do that 20 years ago ?!
The plugin sounds absolutely incredible on your tracks. That acoustic was giving me the chills . When that chamber engaged , OMG! One of the best sounding acoustic tracks I've ever heard . Drums sounded great right out of the gate. Hell of a job recording your tracks.
this actually sounds really organic and cool
It just sounds so classic and natural.
I have a tip for running any kind of room plugin on drums. Send your drums to the room WITHOUT any effects on them. It'll sound more natural that way.
That acoustic guitar part is 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻. When you brought the chamber in, face melting.
Thanks!
This is one stunning plugin.
Sounds great! There is a difference between re-mic mode and reverb mode. I believe re-mic is to be used as an insert and actually used almost like a re-amp box to change the way your track was recorded. Reverb used as an aux/effect. But again, sounds great as you used it so whatever works!
Yep! Ocean Way operates the same way. They’re a bit mum about details for “re-mic”, but there’s definitely a dry component there, and it’s different from a simple wet/dry blend function.
This is the way!
Thank you, Andrew! I'm really loving these hyper-focused informational videos!
Thanks!
Beautiful. Can't wait to play with it.
Enjoy!
Very Impressed with this plugin.
Pretty cool.. Probably going to buy this one. Not a bad price either. Would love to hear it in a full mix.
Great Explanation Of The UAD Sound City Studios Plugin!
This plugin is so good, it's almost like cheating. Puts everything in context in a super useable way.
Wow, well, once again, UA bringing it, big time!!! Outstandingly stellar tones! I cannot wait to acquire and explore. And as always, exceptional job on the video Andrew! The acoustic guitar sounded absolutely stunning, with and without the plug-in, but the plug-in definitely brought the tone into the stratosphere. Lastly, and you may already be aware of this, but I was hearing a constant low hum in the background for most of the video, starting after the intro and mostly heard while you were talking in between playing the tracks. Kind of like a drum mic feeding back ever so slightly. Nothing extreme obviously, just an FYI. Thanks for the video.. Peace.. DC
Yo that acoustic gittur sounds great, love the attack you can feel on those strums
Wow, Christmas list ... gorgeous
Nice video, just picked it up, looking forward to using this one!
Hope they go on sale for blackfriday 😅
Awesome plugin, listened on headphones !
To me it just sounds like static impulse responses and is really boomy on most settings. The UI is great and the workflow seems really nice, especially the guitar amp sources.
this plugin is incredible. I like capitol and hitsvill chambers but this one has something magic. unbeatable for "rock" things. The compressing/Eq part is unique.
super great video about the plugin - most other YT's can't really handle it... 😎
The biggest part of this sound is how solid your raw drum tones are. What snare are we hearing?
Appreciate it, that's the ludwig classic snare. 6.5 x 14! sweetwater.sjv.io/anK1Jq
Maravilla de plugin, me ha enamorado. Lo acabo de adquirir y será mi room oficial. Gracias!!!
Look, I know there's not really a "wrong" way to use a plugin…
but DAMN I was yelling at my screen because you had it on a send in Re-Mic mode!! 😩
lol I love it.
I love it already
1st
Next plugin I’m purchasing today!!
Awesome, let me know how you like it!
Is that hum on your mic or produced by the plugin? Btw, that ac gtr sounds absolutely awesome by itself even without the plugin!
Just think, Small bedroom drum setup but now bam. Technology has made it that we all can have this stuff.
That's it man...
Great video 👍🏾👍🏾
Appreciate it
... Whats the chance that both you and COLT C. do this TOPIC today? ALL GOOD!
What i want to knows is, where is the apollo version? I am starting to get this feeling that at some point UAD will replace all their DSP based audio interfaces with Non DSP versions. If this is the case then prices for the non dsp versions should be significantly reduced.
Cool video and useful plugin but how were you applying it to your mix? Was that on a drum buss? Could you use on snare and kick mics alone? Just trying to understand where it fits.
I bought it through your link. Been playing with it all afternoon. Really impressive.
Love it fugg yeah
Thanks!
There is a dentist office waiting room in that songs future.
I was under the impression Sound City closed after Dave Grohl made that documentary. Did someone reopen it?
Nope it didn't close, but it's privately leased. They put another big fat neve in the A room.
PS - your drums sound amazing. Do you offer and remote session work?
Appreciate that - I do. www.andrewmastersmusic.com/book-online
Yeah great
This time UAD really brought the room, in Ocean Way I don't like what they did with the treble in REMIC mode when used with sources like vocals for example.
Thank you, are you aware if the UA native plug ins complete versions of the plug ins. I see that they have included this in the current package running on the sale for Black Friday!
Where would you use a room reverb in terms of plugin order? Before or after compression? Or as the first thing to pretend that it's the original source? 🤔
Yes.
Thanks for the video. How do you get it to open up in Studio View mine does not ????
That guitar capture sounds so good! What mics are on the J-45?
thanks, we used a Soyuz 017fet and the 1973 in a spaced pair placement!
awesome! This is the most impressive demo i've seen so far on this plug. Great work showcasing how awesome playing, a killer instrument, and excellent engineering all can add up to an amazing sound. The sound city plug really enhances all those elements.@@AndrewMasters
Andrew: are you a metalhead?
I go through phases, probably wouldn't fit the mold 100% but I do like a lot of metal and adjacent music.
anybody else get anxiety that he had it on the drum config when processing the acoustic guitar? i felt ocd for him to switch it to guitar mode in a major way. the plug sounds nice on guitars but i wasnt wild about the drum rooms, which is what i'd mainly want it for anyway
Yeah, it sounds great for acoustic guitars with subtle use, but I'm not convinced on this plugin for drums
Before you all lose your mind, compare this ASAP to UAD Oceanway Studios it’s the same concepts I want to hear side-by-side I want to hear which is one sounds better let’s go ! Somebody do it please ASAP. Thank you.
I get whatever sounds good is good, but am I wrong in thinking that the Re-mic mode is for using the plugin as an insert and reverb mode is for using on a bus for a send?
I think that would make sense. I'm always of the opinion you can use anything however you want if it improves the sound or makes it more interesting.
Hey Andrew - when you are mixing your garage mic in, do you slide it forward at all? I have a similar room mic setup - sort of a Zeppelin hack, where I have one upstairs. I find there is too much delay on it often so sometimes I move it forward a few ms to help make it tighter. Just wondering if that’s a thing with room mics….
The unsexy answer is, it depends. haha it's rare for me, but sometimes i'll shift the clips to see if it makes the sound better for the song.
Honestly this type of sound can also be achieved by Altiverb, with a little EQ to cover those different mic settings, no matter what you say...
Appreciate you watching!
How much DSP does it use?
It's native
New favorite plug-in!
For those mentioning he's in the "wrong" mode, while technically true, if it sounds good, it is good. Don't let a manual stifle creativity haha. As a send in Re-mic mode on the acoustic, it sounded fantastic. The drums are another story...
STELLAR UA!!!
You have a picture of Studio 606 in there instead of Sound City in the intro. Motorhead flag gave it away.
I always think that if a plugin suddenly appears all over your feed from different channels then it’s one to avoid 😂
I used to go into the side studios at Sound City way the hell back when Rage AGM was still only a local band and the only thing i can remember was the smell of urine and that utterly sick classic Neve monster sitting in a room that looked like a high school cafeteria puked it up. Maybe they should release a Glade Plug-In that's like "Rock Star Urine" or "Shag Carpet Dried Vomit with ancestral Chardonnay Overtones" LOL
Uses a ton of CPU, and there's no DSP version... important points...
Love your videos dude! I mean this really kindly, but you look a bit run down, are you ok?
Appreciate it, I was just blessed with this look.
@@AndrewMasters Mate, I look run down all the time. It’s the lives we lead in the music industry 😂😳
Just not hearing it... doesn't seem to sound that great to me. Bummer.
Very nice video BTW!
오션웨이 플러그인과 다를바가 없네요 가치가 없습니다. 실제와 비슷하지 않습니다.
You look so much better without a hat on. Show your hair!
thanks!
was
First!
So weird that they can spend all that money and research and time and can’t tune a guitar