New Horizons Betrayed Animal Crossing
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You can’t say that “the vast majority of players” didn’t want the game to be like New Leaf by showing sales data. According to the chart shown, the vast majority of people who played New Horizons were actually new to the series. If everybody who bought New Leaf also bought New Horizons, over 2/3 of the players would be newcomers. The game appealed to people who historically didn’t play Animal Crossing. This says nothing about the people who did.
Not to mention, even taking into account "more people play games today" sales increases, it came out in prime pandemic season and was a literal social phenomenon. It should've sold about half as much as did.
Exactly, that point didn't make any sense to me. Most of the people seemed to think the game was more like Stardew Valley or even Minecraft, which aren't something I'd ever expect an Animal Crossing game to be compared to. I still don't know how it's at all like Minecraft but that's casuals for ya, probably just played it on creative mode.
Also regarding how New Leaf "changed everything", it didn't change *everything,* and it still very much felt like an Animal Crossing game. Horizons felt like I was playing a game trying to be Animal Crossing. It changed far too much, yet added far too little, to feel like one.
y'all forgetting. A pandemic locked everyone in their houses right around the time of this game's release, artificially boosting all forms of personal/home entertainment sales. The sales are definitely not a great indicator. I love AC; have since Wild World, and DO in fact own the original one for the Game Cube. I got it after having fun with Wild World , and after having finished upgrading my house in New Leaf.
I actively refused to buy New Horizons because it wasn't even really Animal Crossing anymore. And if anything was going to convince me to drop funds on a Switch, it would have been a new Animal Crossing. That is why I ever even bothered to get a 3DS... never mind that game not coming out until YEARS after being announced at/as release for the 3DS... Still salty about that one.
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I adore acnh, but only ONE Nook store upgrade? As a long time fan of the series this one felt unfinished in certain ways.
Unfinished is the word for it. Minimum viable product is another term that springs to my mind.
I liked New Horizons... but the game did not leave a good feeling when all was said and done. I look back on my time with New Leaf very fondly. I look back on New Horizons and can only rue what could have been, and what wasn't, and feel disappointment primarily.
I was so disappointed with it because I don't really enjoy the building and designing, I enjoy the features from the old games like upgrading the stores, events and talking to villagers
Same here. I always liked the designing aspect, but it was easily my least favourite part of this series. I always preferred the social part of the games. Designing my island was cool at first but it is not my thing
See I love the designing
I would like the game more if I could wipe clean my entire island to where it’s flat again when I want to do a new island theme because having to either remove every single item or reset your game data is just dumb
YES!! This is why I won't be buying the next installment. New Horizons lobotomized the villagers and turned them into decorations.
@@Torinna_ Yeah, the people who liked talking to the villagers the most probably got a big flop. The dialogue in new horizons is about as bland as a wooden door with no hinges.
New Horizons is a great example of the phrase "two steps forward, one step back."
I'd say two steps forward and two steps back.
Honestly I just like the hourly music much more in the previous games. I wish we could have them in NH
Fr new horizons music just becomes so irritating and grinding
It's just forgettable
Exactly what I've always thought. The music in New Horizons is just...plain. Like, you can hum the music of New Leaf, but not the one in New Horizons
New Leaf had the best soundtrack out of the series, and I kept wishing for an ability to play it in New Horizons.
Another one of those things they could so easily add, but never do, and thus just make you want to pull out your own hair and make that Jackie Chan meme face. I think it is just part and parcel of Nintendo's archaic way of viewing games these days hearkening back to their days as a toy company. They don't like to make improvements and would rather just work on a sequel.
Dialog in NH being lacking is also another factor too. Its been mentioned to death so i assume thats why you skimmed over it.
I'm not opposed to the idea of expanding or adding more customization, but I have an issue with the fact that it's now the focus of the entire game when it didn't used to be. Animal Crossing used to be about moving into a place that already existed and would continue to exist without you. "The live game that's happening every second of every day, whether you're playing or not." With New Horizons absolutely everything is under your control. Nothing at all happens without your input and it's a completely different feel.
I still enjoyed New Horizons, but I miss the old games that felt more like a living place with interesting villagers to talk to, rather than an animated diorama with boring, decorative villagers. I hope the next game is completely different than New Horizons, because I want to it actually feel like an Animal Crossing game.
LITERALLY THIS!!! couldn’t agree more!
I wouldn't have even minded as much if the villagers weren't so dull, I could replace them with cardboard cutouts and nothing would change. Man, to think they were cut down before.. I came to loathe the villagers though, because they really did become dioramas. That's a good way to describe them.
While I'm new to AC, but is this what happens to long-running franchises? Do they always lose their charms from the previous installments? As what many said about Pokemon(which I've played for years).
I don't mind them changing things, it's when they REMOVE things for no reason.
Like how they removed Swimming only to patch it in later. No swimming... In the game based on a deserted ISLAND.
I miss how the villagers felt like... Well, villagers. Now they're just decorations that say the same few lines. I remember when grumpy and snooty villagers were rude at first. It made them more memorable.
You actually remembered who was nice and who wasn't because you had the two sides to compare with. Now even the grumpiest villager is as peppy as the happiest one. There's no real variety, and as such no memorability.
How can I remember a single villager when they all act the same.
In WW they gave villagers unique likes and dislikes to add variety to the personality types, why was that removed? Now they all like the same stuff.
Removing all that stuff didn't make NH different, it made it less.
Now you know how the Pokemon fans feel.
So much has been removed - shop upgrades, villager personalities, mini games, NPC visitors with challenges, more shops (other than Harv's island), flea markets, some events
I’ve only played the original and the newest. Gotta say I prefer the first one. Felt organic and real. Characters were unique and raw.
Did Animal Crossing RUclipsrs get together and plan to put out videos with titles and thumbnails that seem like super negative takes on Animal Crossing all of a sudden or is it coincidence that so many of these came out at roughly the same time?
I believe its just the timing. most of these youtubers have had a lot of time to play and gather their thoughts on acnh now that its gone dormant and pretty much abandoned by nintendo. With the free updates coming to a stop, there isn't any new content to be reported on and the game can be thoroughly played unlike before where you still had features to wait for.
I'll toss a TL;DR at the top - Animal Crossing's original purpose was made to instill sense of community. Is not not like that. New Horizons did opposite of that. Take somethings from New Horizons and original purpose - make new game many could love.
The reason I started Animal Crossing in 2002 (yes I'm old) - and the reason why Katsuya Eguchi created the game in the first place was to "Feature three themes: family, friendship, and community." But he said that he wanted to do this was because he was lonely when he arrived in Kyoto and was homesick. I picked up Animal Crossing right after my mom almost died and was very isolated during this time and afterwards. While it was only in a video game, the feeling of community it provided that Eguchi wanted to convey was definitely there.
However, with New Horizons, I felt the opposite. This could very well be a "me" issue or the big global issue that was happening at the time, but here is what I felt. I would attempt to create an island that would be "mine" - a comfort similar to the sense of community I had felt during my previous rough patch earlier - after all, would this not be an appropriate time? But when I would look for a design or pattern online for a path or something similar, I would so inferior about my island. It looked awful. I would put more and more hours into it. Do I want to try a city vibe? Country? All? Design tutorials became pointless as I did not understand how to create what I saw as my brain just does not work that way. I was ashamed to have people on my island - even for things like giveaways or turnips. This is also compounded by the hallowed out nature of many design choices by the developers. Obviously the repetitive dialog from villagers but also other perplexing choices. A postcard stand substituted a whole entire section of community - leaving letter writing (as annoying as that could be) pointless. Visiting animals became more about "what do they have" rather than "what are they up to?" For comparison - think of interactions between the Able Sisters and any traveling merchant. So many more things that are also not listed here. Please also do not get me wrong. I empathize with developers and the difficulties creating many things during the global issues - my husband teaches video game design and was a developer till burnout. But it feels....so empty.
All of this ultimately led to was not a sense of community, but rather the opposite of it. It became more about aesthetics and the superficial vibe of the game rather than the original intent. At the end of the day, I feel that New Horizons is the antithesis of the game's original purpose. There are some amazing aspects of New Horizons that should be brought over into the next game, however I feel that with that and a combination of its roots would make a fantastic experience so many could love. I genuinely hope that the amount of games sold is not used as a marker for how much the game has diverged from the original creation of the game and the potential of what it could be.
(Re-reading this after typing I realized that I have been working on my Senior Capstone project too much and apparently everything I write now sounds like a research paper instead of a human actually speaking - my apologizes. If you need me to click an "I am a human box" please let me know. I believe that "trains" are my best category." And no - I'm not procrastinating. You are procrastinating.)
This was wonderfully said. NH was my 1st game but I had similar community feels from MySims for DS....I was hoping NH would be similar since I heard good things before...but it felt all you described.
So much so I kinda gave up on my island cuz I cant make how I want and others have done way better.
The villagers all say the same thing so there's no point to check up on them....and really......I hate being on an island in the middle of nowhere its truly deserted even after you unlock everything.
personally, I think New Leaf was closer to City Folk than New Horizons was to New Leaf (or any other game in the franchise). I get that they had to make it different, but I feel like they made this game TOO different. I always say that it's an amazing game but it's not an amazing Animal Crossing game. I hope the next game is just a combination of the previous games + improvements. The quirkiness of the Gamecube game, charm of Wild World, growth and progression of New Leaf, and the modern-ness and customization of New Horizons. That would be my dream Animal Crossing game. i dont think that'll be the case but one can hope lol
I completely agree!!!
Personally I don't like the modern-ness, something about living in a weird little forest town is much more appealing to me. I liked Horizons when it was a handful of us building our town together on an island, but as more people moved in, as more people visited a random island just to sell SHOES and SEEDS, as more as it wanted me to add more and more stuff to the town, that feeling of living in isolation within nature slowly disappeared. I wished I'd kept it as it was originally.
@@Vaguer_Weevil yeah that's fair, I agree. By modern-ness, I was actually referring to QoL and graphics, stuff like that. I really like the isolated forest feel too! But also, I wanna place some benches down in my lil forest town (customization) lol
Just put more of a focus on the villagers and single player content and charm like old ganes while having multiplayer and design elements options. Really shouldnt be that hard. Villagers became accessories and thats when identity started to change. I dont mind having more control but give them a purpose ffs
except new horizons isnt a "completely different" game, its new leaf but instead of putting focus on literally anything to further improve it as an animal crossing game, they spent all their focus on adding superficial tedious decorating features that change the entire principle of the game into a barbie dreamhouse builder, all the things it added did nothing but take away from the spirit of the game, you were never supposed to be able to control every aspect of your town/island, that isnt what the original games were ever about. for fans of animal crossing before new horizons who dont want to spend all their time with the tedious tools availible reconstructing their entire island and dictating what goes where, theres almost nothing for them. before any of the dlc, which this video should have focused on, as its completely unfair to talk about the features they added a year after the games release while the other games were substantial on their own without any further updates, new horizons was a barebones mess with barely anything to do. 1 shop upgrade, barely any furniture, nothing to do, when you get the townhall built and can actually start decorating, the game just ends and theres absolutely nothing left for people who dont want to play a godmode town builder. if it was a "completely different game", why does it have all of these staples from previous games, just done in an extremely lackluster way. its just a barebones town builder mascarading the corpse of animal crossing. and even as a "completely different" town builder, it fails on every angle. games like minecraft, the sims, simcity do town building significantly better in a less tedious and more fun way than new horizons does with its horribly tedious tool breaking, brick-by-brick lego building, material farming and crafting mechanics. its not a fun townbuilder, and its certainly not a good animal crossing game.
Yep
YES!
No Gracie, hundreds if not thousand+ items, series and sets removed for no reason :(
No mini games.
😭
i miss the multiplayer from new leaf like kappn's island and playing mini games together. multiplayer in new horizons is so boring!
I think it would have been cool if we could make our own buildings for villagers to use
Its a shame because the older AC games had more charm and content in it and New Horizions just got rid of that.
I have a very peculiar take on Animal Crossing. I think that the core concept of AC is a feeling of being lost and confused.
You leave the home you've lived in your entire life and move to a mysterious and somewhat spooky town full of ghosts, aliens, and crushing debts. The entire world feels like it's against you, but with enough hours (er, months) sunk into it, you can finally carve out a nitch for yourself in your very own Animal Village.
ACNH puts you in control from the very start, even giving you full control of which villagers live on your island and when/if they leave. It's great for casual play, but I've never been a "casual" Animal Crossing player.
Also, City Folk is my absolute favorite Animal Crossing. It's the best experience the series has to offer, in my opinion.
I agree City folk is my favorite
So happy to see another City Folk fan!! It was my first AC game, and I love it so much
I only had a little experience with City Folks(and AC entirely) at my cousins' house. It looks like a cute little game. With house interior similar to the ones in mainline Pokemon games.
The prior games wear great but you literally couldn’t even give your villager dark skin without tanning, New Horizons has my heart for letting me play like a character that actually looks like me
Can't wait Kora to make her own cozy video game for us!
Well, I would have preferred for an HD remake of New Leaf with Home Designer's features (having schools, hospitals, cafes, etc.)
Would it be weird to say that not just with animal crossing but with most of Nintendo’s big IPs they’re hitting this point where they make an experience that while nothing bad it’s trajectory defying.
With animal crossing, to an extent, and Zelda, and Mario they drop three games that reinvents their wheel. But then there’s this what’s next.
Tears of the kingdom rose to the occasion pretty well all things considered (if you ignore the plot lol) but the faith that they’ll hear us out and implement things we’d like in the next installment for animal crossing feels slim, even if we get another good game. Because it’s rare for Nintendo to put out an objectively bad game.
And in a era, of triple a studios putting out unfinished games, but sometimes be more willing to listen to their consumer basis, looking at Nintendo just be the old man hard of hearing taking his time whittling at his games in the corner while Sony and Microsoft have their flashy court cases and acquisitions. It makes me sigh, cause I don’t want Nintendo to be them, i just want them to be better?
Anyone else in this camp?
It’s so hard for me to articulate how infuriating this game is to me and knowing these people most likely see its success as affirmation
Imo new leaf had a much more soul than new horizons. The villagers felt like real people, they were unique, not boring pieces of cardboard. The main street felt alive, unlike any of the shops in nh, which had a measly 2 at launch. Imo if new horizons didn’t launch when it did it would’ve barely done better than new leaf
you’re literally so right
Not really. ACNL and ACNH villagers are basically the same except in New Leaf they yap more about nothing . Although I did like the main street it doesn’t make sense for there to be too many buildings on your island as the 10 homes, 2 shops, and the Museum take up enough space.
The only reason why NH sold so much is because of the lockdown. I was gonna buy the game regardless, and I still play it to this day every day at least once for the past few months. It's still a great game. The customization is awesome, and I feel like if they game didn't have the customization, I wouldn't play it all that much.
That's not true, Animal Crossing is a franchise that has been growing with each new game, so it would sell a lot anyways, but the huge sales of ACNH is more due to the Nintendo Switch hype, almost every franchise broke the record of sales, for example, Zelda, Zelda was a game that never sold more than 10 millions, and with BOTW and TOTK, even smash bros that sold 30 million, it's not common for Smash Bros, or Mario Odyssey with 26 millions, so, this huge sales is more due the fact that the nintendo switch became the most popular and hyped console from the last generations.
@felipeemanuel5790 yeah but 41 million sales. No other game other than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has those numbers and the only reason why Mario Kart 8 does is because almost every Switch owner buys Mario Kart with the system or it gets some deal with the switch.
Definitely one of the reasons, a BIG reason, but not the ONLY reason. It was a popular franchise before that lol, it was just the perfect storm. Also I agree about the customization 💖
@cherriechiffon Oh, I know I've been a long-time fan of the franchise, but I feel like it would not have gone over 30 million sales at most at least 20 million normally.
@@d-jams True !
I was really conflicted with New Horizons. because it was finally so popular and my only thought was "why do my neighbours not want to talk to me or do anything with me?" but still hold a semblance of excitement as after attempting to get people to play it since wild world/city folk, they finally started playing it AND they were enjoying it. They verbatim said "I was right" and all I could think was "but not this one.". Now I look like a huge hipster
Look, NH isn't a bad game but they sould have had improved holiday activities, some minigames, made some sort of progression and have the animals feel alive.
If you don't keep the core of the series it stop's having what made it so good in the first time, and there will not be another pandemic to bring people back.
Why didn't people buy City Folk? Two words: Grass Wear.
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Hot take: City Folk is my favorite AC😭
Tbh I love the customisation, I really want a creative mode that’s like the dlc but for your entire island (in a separate island to the traditional one obviously)
It’s because I’m not a creative person really 🤷 I like the grind stuff, and the minigames and the shopping stuff. I don’t like customizing, it’s why I don’t like new horizons leave me alone 😭
God-Tier Thumbnail, amazing work Kora
People aren't complaining just to complain. ACNH is genuinely lackluster compared to previous instalments. Most of the charm of AC is lost in New Horizons, all while most of the tedium is amplified. Yes, we want a new AC, but not to the point where it's _completely_ different. There's so much focus on customization and building your perfect island, that it feels like "HGTV the game" with an Animal crossing skin over it. I don't want to craft and decorate but it's hard to do anything else when the game keeps forcing it down your throat, while watering down the other activities.
Yes, people will complain if a game is exactly like the previous one, and they'll also complain if a game is completely different. That's because fans want a happy medium. Not one or the other. People don't want ACNH to be just like New Leaf. We wanted the features of New Leaf to be carried over to New Horizons. That's what any good sequel would do. They're supposed to build upon what was already great about the previous games. Not replace them. One of the biggest features people wished New Leaf had was the ability to landscape and place furniture outside. This wish was granted in New Horizons, but at the expense of everything else that was fun about the previous games, making NH feel pretty hollow.
This new generation of gamers have this toxic positivity feel. Every complaint and criticism is just hating.
Criticism is good. It is not hate. It is fans of a longtime series speaking their minds and what they would like to see improved or changed. Its annoying seeing all these youtubers and “fans” preach how they are right and just consume products with no complaints.
Its kinda funny to say it, but I think the Animal Crossing franchise struggles with power creep. Each new game introduces quality of life updates that kind of make the previous ones obsolete. The game started out as a life sim, and with each new entry, its slowly becoming a city building sim. I personally never played Animal Crossing to make a perfect town full of characters I selected to live in it, I enjoyed the feeling of just living in a town. A lot of the fun came from the fact that you didn't get to pick your neighbors, or how they decorated their houses.
I felt this way about New Leaf, way before we ever got a glimpse of New Horizons. I loved New Leaf very much, but I was concerned that the ways in which it was different from its predecessor could set a bad precedent for the series, and those concerns were 100% confirmed by New Horizons, which seems to have frustrated a lot of die hard fans, and painted the developers into a corner, because where do they go from here? They've given the player so much more control over every element of the game than I ever could've imagined when I was just content catching bugs in City Folk.
In my opinion, the better path forward from New Leaf would've been to come up with a new gimmick to replace being the mayor that wasn't just basically being the mayor but with more powers, and to add more animal species and personality types (tons of people have come up with fun concepts for this), more minigames and activities to do with friends, and more shops to unlock/upgrade, more special events like the Bug-Off and Fishing Tourney, more special wandering characters like Pascal and Wendell, etc.
I agree
Haven't many other channels, including you, made a video exactly like this before? What does this add to the conversation?
Exactly what I'm saying. I like Kora and her content but this is like the tenth video she's made where she says "Animal Crossing is good, but New Horizons didn't live up to its full potential." It's actually ridiculous at this point how many times she done this lol
I hope the next one has a larger focus on co-op. My husband and I both love animal crossing, so we were excited to see this one had co-op! But it's SO LAME! Why does the second person have to take 5 years to pick anything up! "Wait for me! I'm still picking up this fruit!" We just wanted to be able to play and participate in our island at the same time. So I really hope we can do that in the next one!
The great thing about the city in City Folk was it's atmosphere and novelty, to hop on a bus and leave your village to go to this big grand foreign place was always a good feeling. Animal Crossing could use something like it again, but more refined and dynamic.
Hot take here, but I believe City Folk on the Wii really was the best game in the series, It's a Wild World with more but I did play City Folk first so that likely adds to my fondness of the game. The new direction of Animal Crossing giving you extreme amounts of control over everything has taken a lot away from the game for me, especially with many previous great mechanics being removed in favor of that control, I liked it more when I was but a villager and my fellow villagers were more autonomous or independent.
City Folk was the most refined version of Animal Crossing's "villager life" then New Leaf was "mayor life" and then New Horizons was "literally playing god" which ultimately was a much more refined version of being a mayor.
If Nintendo has so much as a single brain cell left in the entire company….they will take the few new additions and the graphical upgrade, and throw all the rest of New Horizons in the nearest trash can! No seriously, just add those few details to New Leaf and you instantly have an immensely better game!
THIS!!!
Animal Crossing New Horizon is a Microgame in Warioware: Move It
To me it’s more like Nintendo betrayed ACNH. They keep promoting the game and making merch (ie Lego sets) but they won’t actually work on it
Its kinda weird to hear about people complaining about NH because as someone who was in the like 2% of players that actively played new leaf from basically its release in 2013 until like 2020 (but later on with mods), NH was everything modded NL aspired to be (but was obviously much jankier cause mods) and fixed basically everything that the die hard community was constantly complaining about. We are now able to choose where our rivers go, move bridges and central features, get to decide where our dreamies live and have to give the OK before they leave. We can put more than like 15 things outside (including bridges, ramps and other essential structures). Unlocking ANY of the customizable features in new leaf were tied to more RNG than the diy recipes are now.
I feel like people don't think about the fact that most of the "positives" of new leaf probably changed for a reason. Honestly, I'm glad nooks doesnt become a department store because ive always hated the way it looked and would despise having to decorate around it on our island. I'm glad the villagers dont take pot shots at me anymore, I play to relax not get verbally abused by some hippo who I never wanted here in the first place. I think what the devs gave us with NH wasnt customization. It was *control*. Which honestly knowing the die-hard-continues-to-play-for-years-after-release community I think was the correct route. And that being said, I cant really see them going back on that for the next installment. We might lose DIY (though I doubt it) but I don't think they'll ever go back on the control.
But you already said it yourself: what modded acnl aspired to be.
Dgmw I think acnh is a great game, I like the customization part to a certain degree but you get nothing out of this game for playing it a long time casually.
It took me years to finish my first nl town completely, I spent dozens of months in ww and cf and I always felt rewarded for staying while I haven’t touched nh in a year after spending hundreds of hours on my island and still feeling nothing about it except ✨pretty✨. No attachment to my villagers, no accomplishment, no growth.
Overall I don’t think it’s a bad change , it’s just not the game it used to be. The core has changed. But that’s fine since I can still go back to the older titles. Tho the change still can be discussed.
(I also don’t really like the soundtrack of nh so that’s a huge bummer for me and I miss the almost too slow paste growth of the older installments )
Long time player here (playing since ACWW) and personally :
They didn't have to implement a copy of acnl for ACNH but so many things are missing : tropical fruits (banana,durian ummmm would have been fun to have and also mango,lemon,etc... ),the mini games (on an island initially on acnl could have continued on this one with different games this time around ),the medals for game progress (especially things like fish,bug,sea creatures encyclopedia )and the town tree (could have put a giant palm tree or coconut tree would have been a fun sight imo),pwp (like different museum decors and exterior customization for the plaza on this one )
Those were important things that were entirely ripped off :(
I feel like ACNH traded a lot of it's flavour for extra texture. And it wasn't quite finished as a game.
After 2.0 it was
My first AC game was new leaf, and it was one of the games I sunk WAY too many hours into on 3ds, so I can agree that the series peaked in a few ways with new leaf. However, I really don't mind the crafting and customizing new horizons has for the most part and it mostly makes me feel more in control of how I customize my game and that's pretty cool. I agree that the whole terraforming and changing the inside of other villagers houses does take it a bit too far, and you have a good point about the exclusion of minigames and shop upgrades. I almost forgot about all the shop upgrades in NL and I agree that NH is missing a bit of depth because of leaving those features out of NH
Just discovered your channel. I love your content! I feel similarly. Admittedly, a bit part of why I didn't like new horizons was because I wasn't given any goals. I've never been much of a "make your own fun" player. I feel like cozy games like Animal Crossing has to give you some long term goal to keep more players. A lot of my friends liked this game for about... a week, then dropped it. I'd honestly like to see a lot more multiplayer games, heck even if it's just with the townspeople. Contests, treasure hunts, minigames, etc etc.
I agree in terms of the series of Animal Crossing as a whole. However, for the game itself, the new improvements make it a masterpiece of a game.
I agree with a lot of this. Idk why but new leaf is my favourite AC game by far. I like the customisation of new horizons but something about the lack of control in NL really worked for me.
One of my biggest disappointments of new horizons is the music. It’s so bland and the pretty variants for snow and rain are just mid on this version. Also I believe for a lot of seasoned animal crossing players the nostalgia plays a part - I wish we could change the music at town hall to one of the older game versions - I just think it would be a nice touch! (Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the new music but its not as quirky and fun as the older games but that’s just my opinion!)
Frankly, I think gaming culture being terminally online has soured people's expectations and ability to critique media in general.
I liked New Leaf, I liked Wild World, and I like New Horizons. Ive never felt the need to compare which one was better than the other, they were enjoyable experiences for me at certain stages of my life. They were not perfect, but those flaws never came across as things that made me want to stop playing them.
Its ok to be simply satisified with the experience, put it down and go find something new without needing to justify why you stopped playing.
New Leaf is better than New Horizons when it comes to the execution of an idea and remember that the creator of Animal Crossing never wanted New Horizons to exist (hyperbole but you get the point right?) the creator of Animal Crossing wanted you to be someone who just moved into an already established town and live a simple life there while meeting new friends. The customization and farming are the only good things in New Horizons. I want villagers to bully me.
@@HauntakuTVyou say that but New Leaf also dropped you in a town to fulfill an important leadership role that let you customize and control certain aspects of the town. By that logic, New Leaf is also not to the creator's vision yet is the most celebrated game in the series anyway.
The actual reason many will cite New Leaf as the better game is because it was a complete game on launch. It had as many new features as New Horizons but it was all available to you from the start and not dripfed through Seasonal updates like NH was. A lot of New Horizon's ill will is because it wasnt 'better than New Leaf' but was slowly being updated to being 'as good'
This. The constant dissing of New Horizons is getting old. It’s a great game. I’m playing through Wild World right now and I don’t see the hype on that game. It’s actually kind of boring.
Honestly, I think that the best way to make an Animal Crossing game that every likes if to be able to choose before you make your island what type of game experience you want. They could add like a sort of difficulty choice or just a bunch of yes and no questions to stuff like how harsh your villagers should be, how much customization do you want, do you want it to be a city or island, stuff like that. Then we can choose what experience we wish to have that suits us and can try more styles of the game after each island. This is why Nintendo should hire me 😎
BOO!
Cuz, you know, there were no outside contributing factors to Switch-Owners getting New Horizon, like right when it released, like any lock-down orders, or anything. Nope, it's clearly because they liked the changes they're all now complaining about... ;)
Honestly, I'm one of those people who thinks it was too far of a deviation from the prior games. There's a difference between "adding new stuff", and "fundamentally changing the core gameplay to the point where it's barely Animal Crossing anymore".
I really don't like having to craft every single thing I want to use in an Animal Crossing game, leave that for something like Terraria where materials are EVERYwhere And once you have a material you likely already enough of that material that you can build a whole 12-piece set of furniture from it. The fact that they gave tools durability (for just one example) means you have to constantly make more. In a game like Minecraft, it doesn't matter so much, because just by playing the game you always have the materials on hand to replace your tools... but even then, the speed at which tools break is kind of ridiculous.
And what happened to all the fun personalities you used to be able to get in previous games. I distinctly remember a character named Shep in New Leaf. Dude LOVED talking about the station's train-models, and felt like he had an entire hobby based around it. And I'll probably never forget Shep because he was unique, and interesting. I couldn't name all the villagers I've had and match them to their personalities, but I never remember noticing that this Bull in Wild World, basically had the same personality as this Squirrel. They all felt different. I also like most of the wolf characters (for obvious reasons if you look at my handle here) but even in New Leaf they already started having similar personalities to other animals in the game. New Horizons cranked that up to 11, with only giving you literally ONLY 8 different personalities... 4 for the gals, and 4 for the guys... Like, what?
PS: Good Job on the Video-Essay though. One can tell you put a lot of work into it, and you should be proud! I mean LOOK at all the discussions you managed to spark in the comments here. :) And most of them are comments that actually give feedback on the topic (not the video itself), instead of just the usual prattle in most comment-sections. ;)
I like this game but It had so much focus on decorating instead of fun interactions, all the animal crossing videos from back in the day are just the community just having fun collecting bugs and talking to their villagers. All the videos nowadays are like GRIND RESET ISLAND AAAAAAAH HE SO UGLY GRIND GRIND GRIND awww my little uwu baby
* proceeds to ignore without fail * GRIND GRIND BUILD BUILD BUILD RESET
It did not. NH needed some NL mini games but still it was great
I want an Animal Crossing game closer to MySims
Mysims was animal crossing for me >_< this is a dream.
Deception, Disgrace...
People like to complain a lot, and with social media and streaming, those people can increase their voice.
I hope Nintendo will be able to keep the attention of the new Animal Crossing players with the next version of the game.
they will, the game sold 40 millions, nintendo wants to keep the new players interested with the next titles.
Ah yes, ignore the fans in favor of the ones who probably won't buy the next game. That's always worked out well before..
So being mad that they literally left Tons of features that were in old games is complaining?? Being mad they took 3 steps backwards with the new game is just complaining?? You gamers are the worst kind. You’d eat shit and say it tastes good
I actually got back into my New Leaf town recently, it's been so fun! I so miss mini games and Kapp'n's island.
I think that New Horizons definitely took some of the quirkiness and charm out of the series in order to appeal to a wider audience. Its main appeal to many of us has always been the eccentric villagers and villagers are very bland in New Horizons. In New Leaf they don't say anything particularly mean like in previous titles, but they have a lot of dialogue and I'm still seeing lines I've never seen before all these years later. To me it's kind of like if you took the farming out of Stardew Valley - like yeah there's other stuff to do, but the main draw is gone.
I do agree that no matter what, you can't please everyone!
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It was a real betrayal on certain thing look as an old player some people wanted a new leaf 2.0 but for me personally : it's not a big deal if you change things a little but the entire mechanics cut off is a little much
This is what is missing to me in acnh : -more tropical fruits (bananas,mangoes,etc...)
-the medal reward system (it was so nice to see how far you came in your game when checking on your profile :)
- would have been fun to put hibiscus flowers in the game imo
- the town tree should have stayed (you can see you progress like the medals ) but instead a palm tree or coconut tree for acnh and instead of a little leaves growing around the trunk this one would have had vines hanging from it (the town tree was there for almost all games it's just missing 😢)
-the mini games : even if they all changed it wouldn't have been a big deal
- oh and the tools breaking i think a lot of people would agree was a good idea but in practice is just annoying
I havent played since 2020 or 2021 and returned and am having fun but holy crap after going back to wild world the villager dialogue is awful. I want something akin to new horizons after all the updates but with the quirky villager dialogue of older titles and lots of single player and the charm. And i think the design and control elements should be optional. There for those who want, not there for those who want basic customization
As you know I can’t really complain about ACNH never having played the other games before it. Only thing I’d do differently with the next one is make all creatures that have to be caught for the museum at a reasonable hour. I’m only short a few fish and bugs to complete my museum and can’t find them to save my life
The point is that every Animal Crossing game is a improvement of the previous game, therefore New Horizons SHOULD have some of what New Leaf brought to the table, like minigames and main street, but those were lacking. And you seem to love saying that New Horizons sold 40 million copies, lets remember that most of those sales were because people had nothing to do on their houses due to the pandemic.
I agree. ACNH takes so much away from the core of the series it can't really be compared to the past titles. It stripped what was good about AC and tried to appeal more to newcomers while pushing us veterans away.
Not only that, it was killed for a game that frankly should have been saved for the next nintendo console (Splatoon 3).
Hopefully the next game appeals to thide newcomers while giving us veterans a reason to play it.
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I mean, If people expect the same thing from a game that literally have the word "New" on its title then it's kinda their fault really.
I think New Horizons is a chill game (assuming if you don't take it too seriously) and the amount deep customization it had really did sold it.
There will be a new AC game for the next Nintendo console and i bet it's gonna be completely different from NH and idk,i feel like that's the unique charm of it ?
So long as it's not a bad game of itself,I think the franchise will do just fine.
Not being able to upgrade Nook Mart any further is what really bummed me out.
Can you play local multiplayer and go to tortimers island? I would think you could.
I can’t find the Mario kart animal crossing video at the end! AHHAHAHA
My first game in Animal Crossing is New Leaf. It’s a solid game with great mechanics and great fun. I’ve sunk more hours into New Horizons, though, and I think it’s pretty obvious why. It’s way more casual and the new mechanics are a lot of fun. They open up more possibilities than ever before for this series. New Leaf will always have a special place in my heart but I’ll probably return to New Horizons way more than I ever have to New Leaf. Oh and I’m playing through Wild World right now and it’s kind of boring. I understand that City Folk didn’t add much to the AC series but it seems more fun than WW. I want to get it soon and try it
I feel like the appeal with WW over CF was just that it was portable. I liked CF better for the shopping options but that's just me. Wasn't anything ground breaking.
If new leaf is needed so badly, why? Why can’t it get remastered?
I played New Leaf after New Horizons and I don’t get you guys, it’s so much worse and so much more tedious. This week I decided to try out the Halloween event in NL and it’s insufferable! There is no space in your pockets as every single candy has to stay separate, it’s impossible to get masks from Jack because he always gives you doubles, and worst of all he disappears every single time after you talk to him and you have to search for him all over the place again! Just to get the same mask you already have or some ugly-looking furniture! There are maybe a couple of features that are arguably better in NL, but NH is all around a significantly better and more enjoyable game. I spent over a 1000 hours in it, and I could barely push over a couple dozen in NL because of how obtuse most of that game’s mechanics are after the initial introduction. It’s nostalgia goggles, I’m telling you. Try going back now, after playing NH. It’s probably not going to be as great as you remember.
Jack doesn't give you doubles for masks. He always gives you a mask that you don't have in your inventory at the moment. If you have all, he does give you a random one.
It was the online play experience that made new leaf so good imo. New Horizons' QOL improvements are huge but Club Toritimer and the people I met through it are why I have 980 hours in new leaf vs. 80 in new horizons. And honestly, the tedium of animal crossing is kind of part of the whole AC experience. Where new horizons streamlined things like inventory management, it also added things like having to craft things one by one and breakable tools (outside of axes). And if you think the halloween event in NL is unfair, wait until you see how it worked in the first 3 games...
@@Kris-ds6wj I only had two and he gave me three ghost masks.
@@NinjaWeedle I don’t play online, so that’s one area where I have no opinion. Sure, if it’s better in NL, I’ll give it that.
I got tired of playing New Horizons after 3 months. Only went back to it after getting a second copy for my Lite.
My first was on the regular Switch. I played for 6 months in 2021 and I was done.
Went back to playing New Leaf and I still love the game. I still play New Leaf a couple days a month.
It's not nostalgia for me. I don't like decorating and I'm not into customization so Customization the game
(New Horizons) isn't for me.
Wild World was first to have wifi multiplayer, and was first to exist on handheld
the heck is goin on at the end of the video
If they got rid of the designing and terraforming, I would cry. I would still like to see some of the old aspects back in the game, as well as some new ones.
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As someone who has been playing AC since the GC days I can confirm that NH did NOT betray the series and that this take is pretty dumb 🤦🏿♂️
0:46 it was the first time you could play together at the same time, that's why its Japanese name was "oideyo", which is the imperative to "come over", ie visit someone. I'll never forget the first time I ever hosted a visitor using Nintendo Wi-Fi connector. It was awesome playing and chatting with someone. Now, that's standard, but when Wild World came out, you hadn't done that before in Animal Crossing, you could visit someone, but you had to swap memory cards, and visit their village without directly playing together. I may have started with GameCube's in 2002, but Wild World in 2005 totally hooked me forever on Animal Crossing, because I could finally play directly with other people.
The thing is, the game never really forces you to terraform, it is all up to the player. That is why most gets overwhelmed when unlocking it. 😅
5:12 the community conveniently ignores the parts that were added back from the original game that Wild World didn't have like the 4 individual houses, the cliffs (I hated that), real world holidays, a marker outside your house when you paid it off, similar house expansions (no more side rooms that Wild World had). The way it was described by IGN was perfect when they called it a blending of the prior two games, because that's really what it was the original and Wild World put together. Calling it too similar to Wild World ignores all the content the original had that was also put into City Folk. Really it was 90% original/Wild World, and 10% new content with the city, that's why fans didn't like it.
I feel like it's unfair to say that the vast majority of players didn't want the game to be like New Leaf, considering all the unique factors surrounding New Horizon's release.
-It came out right at the beginning of the pandemic. I doubt there will ever be such a good release date for an Animal Crossing game, or maybe even any game, ever again
-It had been seven years since New Leaf came out. People were extremely hyped about a new AC game coming out, since this was the longest times between AC games being released
-Doom Eternal was planned to release on the same day (but was released a day early due to the pandemic). I remember seeing a lot of memes, fanart, and even a fan song joking about how two games with very different vibes, were releasing on the same day. So that was also extra exposure of the game to the Doom fandom
-In four years, the switch managed to surpass the total sales for the 3DS, which would have had ten years worth of sales at the time
-New Leaf only had one big update, while New Horizons was built on updates. Updates, that would have given the game a lot more advertising (in the traditional sense, and from people talking about the updates and hyping them up)(Also, with almost every update people were disappointed features from the previous games weren't added)
New leaf added new things without removing other things. New horizons added new things and removed a bunch of old things. A sequel should have everything the old games have… AND MORE…. Not new things and scrap everything that people loved and never wanted to get removed in the first place. City folk failed because it literally didnt do anything new. Its not the same as new leaf to new horizons or city folk to new leaf. In fact city folk to new leaf “the example you literally made” was that they added new things to that original formula… thats why everyone liked it…. New horizons is not the same and definitely split the fan base. Something new leaf didnt do. New leaf just gained more fans rather than replacing fans. Im sorry and I already know im gonna get attacked for having this opinion. But your video is objectively wrong. But hey good for you. Glad you like new horizons. But its not the animal crossing me and many others wanted. Im very dissatisfied with the direction Nintendo took with this game and im not just some stupid angry gamer for having that opinion. My opinion and likes and dislikes are just as valid as yours. I may not be a successful youtuber with tons of fans. Im just a dude that grew up playing these games and I genuinely have loved them my whole life. I have opinions on the direction the series should go too 😒
I really hope that the next game is like a combination of New Leaf and New Horizons with an extra cherry on top.
New Horizons' customization and gameplay loop are a great improvement to the series for people who couldn't get into it before, but there are things both new and returning in New Leaf that slipped through the cracks that should bolster the content in the next game.
...but there should probably be a little more than just that. Maybe there could be multiple areas to customize. Maybe there could be some brand-new gimmick.
Regardless, the eventual next game needs to feel just as much like a synthesis of the series so far as a new step forward for the series.
New Horizons was very much a two steps forward two steps back game, and I am worried the series from this point on is going to go the way of Pokemon. As in every new game is just going to get worse and more shallow.
New Leaf just had so much more going for it as far as events and actual things going on in the day-to-day of the game. NH added the ability to build your town which I loved, but honestly... it came at too great a cost IMO.
7:13 Hey, Splatoon actually does have pretty substantial changes to the game between each installment. By the standards that most other shooters are held to, each installment is worthy of being a full sequel, far more than something like Call of Duty.
The new director tanked it. She replaced actual gameplay with dev tools. They edged out Isao Moro for some reason and that's what killed it. Nobody ever talks about it either
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Thats also the thing tho. Like, new horizons is also literally new leaf, but better and more convenient. I cant even begin to list the amount of changes that NH added from very annoying and low quality of life stuff from NL. Inventory, shops, houses, decoration, ect ect. Whenever i hear you and other say and complain that apparently NH changed everything and didnt bring stuff back they wanted, people always talk about it and list them as if they are uncountable.... When its just the minigames, perfect and more fruit and more than one shop upgrade. And its... especially for the last two, extremely baffling how insignificant these are, compared to everything else NH added and fixed on NL? Its the most nitpicky thing ever. Especially nowadays with NH finished, it doesn't need a store upgrade since there are others now. Less fruits is essentially just a cosmetic thing, and minigames were very boring and repetitive in NL, but regardless its the ONE missing feature NH doesnt have. And people are losing their minds over dumb minigames and ignore everything else NL introduced and does better lol. Any actual flaws of the game lies with flaws in NL, the villagers being boring, or soundtrack being not as good as NL which is more personal taste than anything
the only improvement from new leaf was outdoor decorating and crafting imo :/ everything is pretty much the same or less
@@demi-qs5zc more inventory and better inventory management, you decide the buildings' locations so there's no random building in bad places, people don't move away at random, you can sell stuff without having to go through many loading zones, lots of storage even outside, generally much less egregiously complicated events, and these are only the few I can think on the top of my head rn
To me, the better inventory by itself makes up for shop upgrades, fruits and minigames by itself multiple times, and that's not going into everything else too
@@Fannintendociccio1for me it wasn't the minigames themselves so much as having an online hub at all. some of my best memories from new leaf are messing around on the main club tortimer island with randos, just talking and occasionally sharing FCs to visit each others towns. The tours only gave you something extra to do and a good source of pitfall seeds. Without that component, new horizons can feel...a bit isolating. If new horizons had some sort online hub with 8 players instead of NL's 4, that would be an amazing experience.
@@NinjaWeedle oh I should have mentioned, the reason why the minigames feel extremely boring to me, I'm sure they can be fun with people, is also cuz 1 I never tried em with other people and by themselves are very bad, and 2, I don't have Nintendo switch online so I couldn't play em with anyone even if they existed
That being said, the absence of the quality of life stuff in NL that NH has is the reason why NL gets so tedious it eventually makes me sick in the stomach to try and play it, while NH is extremely welcoming and actively makes you want to play it lmao, minigames are an extremely small footnote compared to the constant gameplay feel of basic stuff like that
Pretty much agree with everything you said. And I like the music in NH much more than NL, actually. It feels like there is always that one song with a few variations playing in NL, which is pretty good, but gets stale after a while. And NH music is absolutely incredible to me, almost every track is memorable and stands out.
“But if you want the game to be the game you want, go make that game”
**Stardew Valley**
"You can't just keep making the same game over and over again".... Ever heard of Fifa?
Okay this is by far the funniest thumbnail you've made Koramora. 😂😂😂
Considering that soon there will be no legit way to play New Leaf, the complaint is legit.
Sturgeon= 10,000 bells each/ blue rose that takes an eternity to get= 1,000 bells each
Tbh, I did want the same game again and New Horizons was not that. Loved Population Growing. Loved Wild World. Loved City Folk. Loved New Leaf. Hated New Horizons. I never cared at all about the customization. Crafting systems in games always annoy me. And this game basically just punishes you for not wanting to decorate your island up to the 9s. Not to mention the fact that it killed off everything else about the game in order to focus on this aspect that I don’t like. I also don't like the setting being an island. I liked the forest. I wish we could go back there
Didn't the earlier ones have other fruit just difficult to get?
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I actually like animal crossing new horizons