Is It Possible To Be Vegan Long-Term?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Alive and healthy here. 25 years vegan.
I love your channel Vegan Zombie. If you're ever in Las Vegas, try Blinders. They are a fully vegan restaurant. They have an option for Beyond Meat or Impossible and I now go with Beyond (after seeing your experience with Impossible Foods). Blinders' Bleu Burger is the best burger I've had in my life.
You are the one of the vegans I always think of when people say it’s not a long term lifestyle. I love you vegan zombie 🧟♀️💕 vegan for life!!
I work with cancer patients & data and the projection for cancer is 1 in 2 men will get cancer in their lifetime and 1 in 3 women. Oh and a large percentage of patients are B12 and vitamin D deficient and these are lifelong meat eaters. Finally starting to see some doctors recommend plant based diets and seeing some patients tell their doctors they are switching to plant based eating. So it is happening, even in the medical field....finally. Great video!❤️
My wife is getting treated for cancer now and not once have they mentioned nutrition nor have they check her cholesterol, B12 or Vitamin D status
Nicole L s.
Factory farming purposefully degraded the quality (nutrients) of the meat they sell. In a capitalist system factory farmers concerned obsessively with profit would utilize FREE resources to improve quality and thus sell more than competitors. But they don’t utilize the free resource (sun for example) that to me says it’s about something else and not the profit. Also meat is frozen then thawed and sold as fresh at store. This further removes any Beneficial nutrients-as they breakdown over time. Fresh killed flesh is rich in vitamin c. As a meat eater I noticed a huge change in health when switching to pasture raised animals who had exposure to nutrients they should have and fresh.
No it not happening. 97 % of the world eat meat.
Watching this is like therapy. It's so good to feel understood.
14 years vegan here, raising FOUR vegan kids! It's all good. I'm so grateful for how much veganism has grown since 2005!
@@NishaBalsara Nisha, look who's talking, #girlboss!
Wow amazing! I have such a hard time being vegan while pregnant. Any tips? Currently 19 weeks
Lauren Robinson Oreos
wooo!!! thats awesome Marie!!! 💚
Do you have any tips on when a 3 year old says he want to eat meat, because his friends at preschool eats t, and says he should to...? I'm breaking down here.... :(
Fish are sentient. There was a study where they injected half with acid (for pain)... the placebo fish stayed in one area but those injected moved into an area of water with pain reliever. They can feel pain. 💗
PapayaJoy they absolutely can! That’s why I put quotes and the text disclaimer. 💗People think they aren’t... but they are. Going on a fishing trip in Hawaii gave me a huge push towards veganism. I heard the fish fight for it’s life and I’ll never forget it!
@@nyxnightlinger7719 Was referring to the sentient nature. In the video they said that fish weren't sentient (they didn't mean it that way) ...was just clarifying. That's a different form of feeling than plants. Everything is vibration and energy so yes it all feels in it's own way. Sentient is referring to an emotional body. Not sure your point here?
@@nyxnightlinger7719 they do not feel pain
PapayaJoy but fish eat other fish 😆 they don’t care about their own kind
@@ElinWinblad Fish eat other fish species. They're not all the same species. We label most sea creatures as fish. Your comment is the equivalent of saying that since wolves eat deer that land animals don't care/eat their own kind. That doesn't exactly make sense
I've been vegan for 16 years and I'm never looking back - long term vegan is SO doable and is just getting easier and easier!
Shannon that’s incredible! Congratulations!
@@NishaBalsara Awww thanks! And thank YOU and the other ladies for making the process of being vegan (or even trying vegan foods!) more realistic and relatable for people! I wish this was a thing when I first went vegan!
That's amazing Shannon! I agree, it gets easier and easier as time goes on!
@@garypack1709 I wouldn't know - I don't have any weird illnesses.
So grateful that you all take such a strong ethical stance, while still remaining so compassionate towards people who aren't yet vegan.
Thank you! That's really why we started this channel! it's not about shaming, it's about celebrating what we love about being vegan and how it works in our lives 💚
I love that you put out your videos on Monday mornings -in my time zone at least- so I can put them on as I make breakfast.
It's always such a great way to start my week!
Lisa Ward we tried to be conscious of that!! It’s so nice to hear that!!! 😍
love that you start your week with our show! That makes me insanely happy 🙌
i love your videos!!..and my dad has been vegan for 25 years and he’s doing just fine so... :)
flowerchild that’s amazing!
wow your dad is amazing!! thanks for letting us know and inspiring those who feel that veganism is a trend!
NikkiVegan 💚
@@helka2872 what's his eat in a day
Ritesh Arora Nothing special really :). Just a lot of very basic cooked food; lentils, beans, chickpeas, tofu, pasta, rice, a lot of veggies and bread, muesli... He also snacks on fruit, loves tahini and isn’t scared of sugars or oils or eating something ’unhealthy’ like processed foods (such as mock meats) or sweets every once in a while :D.
The way you're talking about hens is the way someone I just met talked about his new rescue dog. The dog was in a cage for four years just making babies and they saw her and just had to rescue her. Now I don't know if these people are vegan or not, but I can see so many people echoing their words and the accompanying horror of it all while eating an egg or the flesh of a chicken. I've been vegan for nine years and I still can't get used to the disconnect.
I think you guys all hit the nail on the head! I feel so blessed that I learned about nutrition before I went vegan, and the reason I’m vegan matters more to me than how I look, because pre vegan, I didn’t always like the way I looked anyway. I love that you mentioned that veganism has been around for centuries xo🤞🏽💚💕
Thanks Katie! Glad this resonated with you!
Vegan for only 2 years but I wouldn't even consider going back to eating animal products. Totally agree that you have to have that shift in thinking where you no longer see animal products as food.
Alright...hear me out....Malina as a permanent fourth member????? (Miss you Dani❤️❤️)😊😊😊
she's awesome right?? we love her
I really resonated with the chat around minute 19. I’ve fully recovered from my eating disorder and exercise addiction while being vegan. It was harder for me to watch vegan RUclipsrs at the time because everyone spoke to veganism helping them lose weight where as I needed to gain and it felt like I was doing something wrong. I am and was vegan for the animals (pre Ed). And I now find that I am healthier than ever, vegan and thriving but I still have poor body image. Please do a video on body image/confidence! I think it’s so needed in this community where everyone is portraying their”perfect” vegan life/food/body etc. thank you 🙏💕🙌🏼
I been vegan for six months now and I have been having a hard time accepting other people eating animal products. It’s been so hard to find that some of my friends and family don’t care about the treatment animals receive. I’m just telling myself that I can only control my actions and my life.
I'm with you on that. Im struggling with the same issues.
Vegan 6 years, and I’ve been there! But on holidays, my family and friends love my vegan food so much, setting a good example helps people see an alternative to their lifestyle! That’s a step in the right direction.
It’s the s a m e for me.......
Remember that you weren't always vegan either. You can't just become vegan and be one of those holier than thou people.
Simpli Beauti I don’t think I am holier than others. I just thought that people would care more. I just thought that people didn’t know what was happening. I have learned that some people know what is happening but still choose to eat meat. I don’t think I am greater than those people. Just a little disappointed by those people.
I have been vegan 5 years and I recently had in interaction with someone who was telling me that a restaurant in NYC serves pigeon and he was completely grossed out by that, but he is not vegan. I just said to him that I have that same reaction to any meat/animal product and pigeon is really not any different than chicken or any meat....just to echo what you all said about meat not even being food to you anymore. I can relate and this experience was an example of that.
Such a good one ladies!! My high school best friend went vegan in 2010!!! She did slip up for awhile in the beginning of college when living in dorms because there weren’t options & just did normal vegetarian for a bit, but still! I just love you guys can speak the truth of all the “drama” without actually making it drama and such
I'm so happy that people are more about ethical non-harm than about talking about a diet fad. Thanks for being caring people!
True that!
this month is my 3 year vegan-niversary!
woo! happy veganniversary!!
Yay!!!
I've been vegan for over 3 years now and I'm in the best health of my life! At age 32, I'm healthier and in better shape than I ever was in my 20s 🙂
had my first vegan grilled cheese the day before yesterday, I had another one an hour ago and had some vegan ice cream (cashew milk based)
So glad Nikki brought up vegan history!!! I think since this movement is happening so rapidly I think one of you or all of you should in all episodes going forward constantly bring up that the world was vegan in 500bc!!!
Really enjoyed the show and your guest was excellent! Should def bring her back for future episodes 👍👍
Omg I love the description of learning to use your new phone but NOT LEARNING TO USE/FUEL YOUR BODY!! That is spot on.
thank you! so interesting to think about right? glad this resonated with you
This is so much better than The View on tv. Smart ladies!
I became vegan immediately after watching “Vegucated”. That was seven years ago. It’s been fun experimenting with new foods, using new beauty and care products, and feeling so much healthier.
7 years vegan this September and I am not deficient in anything, it simple took a brochure from PETA to make me go vegan. 🌱💚
Oh my god I love Malina. She is my goals.
Vegan 17 years. Just fine! Zero health issues! PS. Einstein was Vegetarian!
Am surprised so many millennials here in the states don't know that there are 214,635 SDA's (Seventh Day Adventist) here in California alone. SDA have avoided animal products since the 1800's. In the 60's I had lots of SDA friends, but it wasn't until '76 that we became fully plant based. Our son who is an adult has been plant based since '76 when he was a little kid.
Post cereal was begun by a SDA American medical doctor, nutritionist, whose friend then began Kellogg's, also based on SDA health beliefs.
Well known vegan Dr.John McDougall '86-2002 he oversaw the plant based lifestyle program at the SDA St. Helena Hospital in Napa.
This was such a good video! Thank you! ❤️
So true..the other day I was talking with my non vegan sister about how the animals are treated and she made the comment that I used to eat meat and I told her that I know better now...my eyes had been opened to the treatment of animals, etc.
also can u post your guests youtube? i only see the hosts’ links
Amanda Welch check now 💗
Hannah Hagler thanks!
I always pronounce it "die-uh" 😂😂😂
Just wanted to say I love you all!!! Thank you for this channel... I live in a small town and I’m literally the only vegan I know lol. I’ve been vegan over a year and half and I love watching these. Keep it up ladies🤗
I appreciate your discussion of eating disorders and veganism! I sometimes feel a lot of pressure from vegans to adopt that lifestyle, but I’m at a place in my life where if I decide certain foods are off limits, it will likely spiral to the point of thinking all foods are off limits, and therefore not eating at all. Due to mental illness, veganism is not a healthy lifestyle for me, and I appreciate others going vegan because I can’t!
We need more videos like this. In 2019, youtube would have you believe that all vegans’ health has failed, all that attempt to be vegan long term end up sick and turn to eggs and fish to heal. We need to push back!
52 plus years raw vegan for me. Never happier. I feel younger as the years go by .
I love this video. I’m the only vegan in my family and in my circle of friends and have had seconds thoughts of maybe I’ll start eating meat in the future. But right after I feel guilty for thinking that. Your guys videos always help me remind myself why I’m doing it and why it’s just not for me or my health, it’s for everyone and the entire world❤️
looks very peaceful at the top. So glad I'm working my way there :)
Can you list Melina's youtube please 🙂🙂🙂
I was wondering the same thing! Also, they really don't need to include Dani's channel anymore.
It’s there :)
It’s in the bio! 💗
It’s so interesting how within the last month Bonny Rebecca, Sam Ozkural, and Rawvanna has came out with videos talking about how they are eating fish and eggs again. I would love to know your thoughts on why you think this is happening all the sudden??
Morgan Feltmeier hi there! I think in a way they did address this several times in the video without naming specific people. They talked about how insufficient juice and water fasts are (which rawvana was so criticized for), and that the key for a long term vegan lifestyle is to 1) make sure you’re doing it for ethical reasons and 2) eat a balanced diet, replacing what you used to eat with vegan options so you’re never depriving yourself. I hope this helps!
Morgan Feltmeier and Kalel don’t forget about her. Lol I think once one got the courage to come out and talk about it made it easier for the others. Kind of like the me too movement. Have you heard about Minimalist Baker not being vegan anymore? She’s going to be putting non vegan recipes on her site next month I believe.
They only made videos about it recently, but at least two of the people you mentioned weren't eating a vegan diet for months.
MediocreHaddie Right, they made videos about it within the last month...
I personally feel that those RUclipsrs focused more on health and different cleanses and raw diets which are not at all for everyone and can be very unhealthy. If you watch most of their videos many of them mention health issues like gut problems and mold; which makes sense when you look at the food they were regularly consuming.
5 months here haha everyone here is like 30,25,10 years 👏👏👏
I just had my 3 year anniversary of being Vegan and I feel great. I will say that I've gone through several periods of time of feeling bloated and having to figure that out. Actually, I think it was something that was said on this show that made sense which was that it's better to have a smoothie or have your fruit first as opposed to having it after you have a sandwich or tofu scramble or whatever you're eating. That has really helped me. My only wish at this point is to make more vegan friends. You would think living in LA I would have more, but all my girlfriends are still obsessed with stinky/fancy cheeses and feel sorry for me that I can't eat them. Little do they know, I feel sorry for them but I don't say it because it just goes to a weird place.
I really struggled with low ferritin levels and both doctors that I saw recommended hemaplex. They NEVER told me to stop being vegan, they said it's so common in women who eat meat too.
Loved this Video 🙏💚and so glad u guys talked about ehtical side of veganism and the horrendous cruelty we inflict upon innocent ,sentient beings whu have a pain tolerance 10 times lower than humans.
k dark I’ve often wondered about animal pain tolerance. We (humans) have larger prefrontal cortex’s than most other animals, allowing us to plan and project ourselves into other scenarios. If you read accounts of people who have been traumatized, they often relied heavily on the functions of their prefrontal cortex to make it through. The animals we torture and kill don’t even have the luxury of imagining they’re somewhere else.
k dark can you tell me where you got your information on animal pain tolerance?
You ladies are so precious and you're vegans. I enjoy watching The Vegan View with my wife. We recommend it to all the vegans we meet. What a great guest.
How many vegans do you meet? I’ve only met two vegans and one of them ate chocolate chip cookie that was made with butter and eggs right in front of me. There aren’t a lot of vegans where I live. Lol
gary pack idk about that. I live in a predominantly white city and an even whiter neighborhood. There were 6 black kids in my high school of 1,800 students.
I tried to watch Earrthlings twice but I could never watch the whole thing
Yeah that one is so hard to watch! So sad
Lots of great points guys. I need to know where Nicole got that shirt!
It’s great to see bunch good heart people here But I also know people like to intentionally hurt others. Human civilization need more positive like you guys.
I love this Channel!
Nisha- your hair looks great!!! 🙌🙌🙌
One of my fav episodes yet!
thanks Hannah! so happy to hear that
I love you're videos so much you girls are so entertaining
Does anyone know how to transition into veganism without losing any of your favorite foods? I feel really restricted with it because I haven't found a vegan cheese that I like yet, and there's other foods I feel like I'm losing especially specialty foods that aren't vegan that I won't be able to have just because I'm a full time student and can't cook but also because where I live there's basically no vegan restaurants, bakeries, or even specialty shops except for whole foods a little bit. I live on the east coast so it's the opposite of LA, there's very little vegan selection here.
Love u ladies (and your make up!) oh my word I need your make up artist ! What make up do u use? Sorry if it’s a repeat question but I’m a newbie here.
Pretty sure they do their own makeup.
Nisha looks so pretty today!!
Happy for people for who veganism cured eating disorders; for me veganism fueled it… the last point was that I’ve put on a lot of weight; which I just couldn’t tolerate… I watched all the documentaries but I guess I’m just not compassionate and I was dreaming of steaks at night; which is definitely not healthy
So many people want me to turn them vegan. It's like their responsibility I feel and I get scared, because I feel like I'm telling them what to do - so I run away. Sorry to everyone out there about it.
loved this :)
Just wanted to send vegan love and support to you guys and that you are vegan for the animals! Stay strong!
thank you much! 💚
Interesting when the concept of veganism being so ancient was brought up. Goes to show how steadfast it actually is.
Right?? It’s not as new as people think 🙌
Preach Nikki! 🙌🏾
I’ve been vegan for 2 years and lately after recovering from a surgery 6 weeks ago, I am extremely tired and pale and just feeling so dragged down. I don’t know what could be going wrong with me. I try soooooo hard to be healthy. Everywhere I look ppl say iron deficiency and to have fish or egg.
Lindsey Ventura If it’s iron deficiency, then lots of plants have iron. I would get a blood test though to see if that’s really the case.
There are iron supplements. Did you talk to your doctor? Any post-surgical issues have to be reported to your doctor ASAP. Get blood tests before changing diet/supplements. After the blood testing, let your doctor know that you are Vegan and that you want assistance staying with your ethics and getting the nutrition you need. Have your blood tested for deficiencies. Chances are that you don't likely have any nutritional deficiency. If you do, there are supplements and certain foods you can focus on.
If you aren't deficient and just want more energy, again there are dynamite supplements like nicotinamide riboside + resveratrol or you can go a step further and add PQQ + CoQ10. Resveratrol is an anti-aging molecule and the others I named are pro-mitochondria molecules. I'm 46 years old and the nicotinamide riboside + resveratrol is exceptional. If you're under 25 years old, just do that nicotinamide riboside without resveratrol because young people don't need anti-aging molecules yet. You can also try CoQ10 + PQQ if you're under 25 to try and get your mitochondria firing along with the nicotinamide riboside. These even can help relieve some depression. Also, coffee/caffeine can help relieve depression too if used in a single beverage sparingly.
The supplements I referenced are not for making up any dietary deficiencies or to try to get around a bad diet. These supplements are for people who are already testing as 'healthy' on blood work and when a doctor is telling you there is nothing wrong, you're healthy, go live life. Then these supplements can help give a boost.
Love this!!
Are you guys easily able to find vegan food if you don't cook? Like if you eat out
Omg! Vegan prosciutto! What brand?
Aww I love her she is so cute!
What happened to the other girl? Havent seen her on the channel on quite awile
Of course. Eat plants. Repeat as needed.
haha exactly! lots and lots of plants!
Does anyone else recognize Hannah from that reality TV show Sorority Girls??
Keep it Up! my lovelies.......
Teach the sarcastic [know] nothings out there floating on clouds of Unbelievable doubts!
Lol I went vegan on my own don't plan going back, and I'm only 14 haha
I just noticed today that one of my favorite plant based blogger and You Tube channel The Minimalist Baker is now including meat and eggs in her recipes. For some reason the other people who have “turned” hasn’t bothered me as much as this. So disappointed!
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Disconnect was something I had to work hard to fight. I knew it was wrong in my heart to eat animals, but I still wanted steak. I watched documentaries and rewatched them until a steak turned into a piece of flesh that I couldn’t imagine putting into my mouth. I’ve been on my vegan journey for about a year, but it feels like a lifetime.
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All the vegans I know had to stop because of health issues...but if someone wants to go vegan do it! Just don’t be a ass about it trying to convert others or give people shit for eating meat...
When you are watching the vegan view and the ad is for “grass fed beef” 🤢🤢🤢 come on RUclips
Really? I got an ad for a vegan meal delivery service!
I support your channel but wanted to give constructive criticism: This episode comes off very preachy and condescending. Positivity looks better on you guys. I liked when @NikkiVegan brought up the history of Veganism and such, good stuff.
Spiedra Telling the truth is considered preachy nowadays.
Preachy?🤣🤣
So bringing up the truth about the Horrendous cruelty we inflict upon innocent,sentient animals whu have a pain tolerance 10 times lower than us is considered being preachy?
Talk about hypocrisy☻👅
Tiny little brownwood Texas has 2 places with vegan burgers and they have veggie sandwiches. Lubbock even has vegan bakeries. “Cattle country” is changing
I'm 'only' 3 years in, and I am so sick of being told that some day I will 'feel it'. I have had prayers issued for me, passive aggressive well wishes, and of course, plenty of insults. Mind you, from people that either show their ignorance clearly, or use some excuse like 'I don't have time to do your research for you'. I'm sorry, you made a claim, ergo, burden of proof is on you. I showed my sources, now it's your turn!
"Hummusapien" hahaha Nikki that's brilliant!
haha thanks! It's so true in my case, hummus is basically a food group lol
@@NikkiVegan Where can I get one??
great video! i have been meat free for 25 years and for 10 of those ive been vegan as well. I have NEVER had any health issues that i thought would be solved by fish and eggs.
Similar... 22 years without meat and about 8 years being vegan. I am still alive.
Queen!! 25 years is incredible! 💚
NikkiVegan thank u! i went vegetarian when i was 8 yrs old and never looked back! I am thankful to have had a family who was mostly supportive (though i was also an extremely stubborn and animal loving child)
@@amandawelch549 Wowww I went vegetarian when I was 8 or 9 years old, too. Usually, I say 9, because that is sure. :) My family found it strange, but did not stop me, they prepared the same meals for me without meat. It is great to know that there is someone similar to me in the world! :) I wish my family would see that there are more people like me, haha.
Perla Serrano we’re kindred spirits!
30 years this july. Started at 17 in Cleveland OH.
Being vegan is really pretty easy, it's just a matter of adjusting to it initially. And it's getting easier all the time - even in just the 6 years I've been vegan I've noticed the trend toward more and more vegan options. Restaurants routinely know now what "vegan" is, where it sometimes used to need explaining. It's growing, thankfully.
I’ve been vegan for almost two years, and I’ve never been more vibrant!
Listening to you all talk about fish, I remembered how I could never eat fish prior to veganism because a full fish was set in front of me as a kid. ...I was horrified. I couldn’t eat something that was staring back at me. I wish I had made that connection to other beings much sooner.
Love you ladies! Keep up the good work. 😊💗🌱
Chelsea Lehnea yes I used to think the same thing!! If I had to peel a shrimp, I wouldn’t eat it. Fish I never touched. It just didn’t make much sense when I looked at the full picture!
8 years ago when I went vegan living in Istanbul and was on a business trip in the States, I was like 'wow, being vegan here would be sooo easy, they had Daiya cheese, vegan burgers, hotdogs, cafes, affordable plant-based milks etc'. It was not that big of a challenge for me as the Turkish cuisine is already very vegan-friendly, but of course, it would've been easier with ready-to-buy stuff. I learned to love to cook, so that was a huge plus (most vegans will probably agree). But the progress in 8 years .... going strong, always and forever vegan.
this was so interesting. Please could you make one entire show about the history of veganism.
Great example of four very beautiful, intelligent, compassionate young ladies
I think this was my favorite video yet!! I am always so shocked when I'm reminded just HOW many aspects of my life and the world around me is improved by veganism
I loved this video! I've been vegan for four years now and am having some major stomach/health issues. It can be really hard to stay vegan when I already can't eat soy, cashews, flax, chia, any protein powder, tomatoes, chocolate, and coconut. People around me keep telling me to eat eggs and fish just to add variety to my diet, but they don't understand veganism is more than just what I eat. Honestly, I don't know how long I'll be able to stay vegan -- if my health issues don't turn around it may become medically necessary to add more calories that I'm not allergic to back into my diet (I'm working with a gastroenterologist and veg-friendly dietitian), but I have the intention of living this way as long as I healthily can-- even though it's not fun/enjoyable (and often painful) when I can't eat so many things. I hope one day my health returns and I can live this way pain free.
I can really empathize with what you're describing here. I hope your health issues are better now! I've been experiencing similar issues. Currently I'm being evaluated for Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. I've been vegan a month and I really want to stick to it but it definitely is tough with a lot of dietary restrictions.
All amazing info and GOLD begins at 17:31! (Well said, Nikki! Especially, at 18:08!)
Thank you Natalie!! I'm so glad this resonated with you 💚
you are all beautiful souls! I am so happy to be vegan for almost one month now. Nikki said that one way to learn about being vegan in the beginning is to find someone who inspires you and then binge watch the videos. Well, here i am! :)
Aw we’re so happy that our channel can be that for you!! 💚💚
I have been an ethical vegetarian (no meat, leather, fur, down, animal tested products, etc) for 27 years....and I slowly went vegan after that. I have never had any health issues and the same for my friends who have been vegan for 15+ years. Of course, data is the best way to provide evidence but it is also great to hear of so many people who have been vegan for so long without issues. It really can work for most people. Everyone, vegan or not, should learn about nutrition and should get their blood tested every year. Great video, as always ladies!!!
Amazing that you've been veg for so long!! It's so cool to know that it works well for so many pople, myself included. I LOVE being vegan 💚
Anja what is the ethics of shipping bees for use in fruit orchards? Hives die in transport. We don’t eat honey because it exploits them but we are ok exploiting them for our fruit.
I've been vegan 14 years and I'm never going back. It's so amazing how many options there are now!