A few corrections actually. It’s mentioned how Nazo Unleashed takes place four months after Shadow the Hedgehog, with Wrath of Nazo taking place sometime after Sonic Lost World (don’t believe me? Look it up). Does that scale Nazo even lower? No since the Metal Nazos in Wrath of Nazo had Sonic and Shadow go Super again as the Metal Nazos are as powerful as regular base Nazo. However with Wrath of Nazo, you can just chop that off to Nazo also developing more when he was asleep, and not include that same scaling for Nazo Unleashed. As for more information on how strong Perfect Nazo is, Chakra-X also mentions Super Shadic to be above Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow, however Super Shadic was also weaker than Perfect Nazo.
I honestly dont remember that comment but honestly it tracks based on Shadow having his memory and tails' buster canon being a reference rto battle. So it taking place somewhere between those games makes sense
@@lerona.martyr3811 It’s even shown in the Nazo Unleashed animation when Nazo is about to become Perfect Nazo, as the last villain that’s seen is Black Doom instead of someone like Mephiles or Solaris.
While it’s likely, it’s not confirmed that Nazo is stronger than the end since Chakra x has stated that “Wrath of Nazo” takes place before Sonic Forces, which is before Sonic frontiers
It's about time someone analyze Nazo. And dang right Nazo is close to the End since when Sonic and Shadow went Hyper, Perfect Nazo was a bit concerned, and Sonic stopped the End with Starfall State at Full Cyber power, which it's below Hyper Sonic. And it took a fusion to best Perfect Nazo and rival Hyper Perfect Nazo, who admitted Hyper Shadic is still faster!
@@yodamaster-lv6xj I watched it countless times. I know what I'm talking about. Regardless, Nazo Unleashed does take place after Sonic 06, hence the year of the video is 2008, and in that continuity, the Metarex event had happened due to existence of Dark Sonic.
@@joel1245 Hyper Shadic only rivaled perfect Nazo. Nazo said that all of them combined wouldn’t match the amount of power he possessed including hyper Shadic. Chakra x even said Hyper Nazo completely outclassed Hyper Shadic so no he didn’t rival Hyper Nazo, only perfect Nazo. Then I never heard chakra say that Nazo unleashed was after 06 or any of the canon. Mind providing proof pal?
@@yodamaster-lv6xj Dude, the setting is after 06, just the time paradox gave everyone amnesia. There's also mentioned of the Black Arms and Shadow using a gun, so the Black Arms invasion had already happened. And Rouge and Omega are at GUN HQ so they're already agents. No, Hyper Shadic was fighting at half strength, as Perfect Nazo was heavily fatigue while Shadic wasn't tired at all. Hyper Nazo said that with confidence because Shadic is running low on Rings, thus weakening him. Regardless he acknowledged Shadic is still faster and plans to immediately blow up the planet, which it's why he dared Shadic to stop him with his remaining rings. He's only winning the clash because he kept expanding the Master Breaker's size and density. Just being distracted by Tails and Knuckles allowed Shadic to win. Also, Shadic just stole back the negative energy of the Super Emerald so Shadic was indeed holding back until the beam clash, thanks to the Sonic nature in the fusion.
@@joel1245 but still dosent its changes much even if "shadic" did "hold back" even creator of nazo states that hyper form or hyper perfect(not realy matter whic one you call) is outcalls hyper shadic completly and i even have an interesting detial ever wondered how nazo knows most of "forms" sonic and shadow has? like cmon the man knows super and hyper forms exist but he dosent know "dark" form that sonic has meaning during the time when he was inside off emeralds leted him know what happening on outside of emeralds and by this theory its makes sense why nazo dosent knows what dark form is and how sonic has it,remember how sonic gone dark form on sonic x? "fake emeralds" key word "fake" sonic just only gone to dark form via by his negative feelings and dozens of fake emeralds WHIC is weaker then nazo unleashad dark sonic who DID used 7 real chaos emeralds so thats makes sense why nazo not akcnowladges dark sonic as he was only limited to wherever emeralds goes and who ever used them etc back to our thing why this whole knowladge matters? well you see nazo's plan was blow up earth to shatter master emerald make it imposible to be restored by knuckles or anyone else but his plan "was" just go perfect and finish off the planet but what happened that he didint count? hyper sonic and shadow came up and prety much haded egde betwen perfect form of nazo's onto the classic moment where he admits how he impresed how two turned chaos emeralds to super emeralds meaning he clearly knows super emeralds are exist but why wasnt his hyper form was not part of his plan? bucase its simple he cant turn chaos emeralds to super emeralds thats somthing he cant do so his plan was limited to perfect form but thanks to sonic and shadow he gained way more power then he tought on his plans and due the this its makes sense why he lost think about it your a vilan your base form is litearly almost cant be matched at all then you dicide to power up via by an energy source to further more and finish off evreything without diff and heck you acknowladge you can be more powerfull via upgrading your energy sources but you cant do it on your own,and out of sudden your energy sorces get upgraded by your enemies and reliazing that fact you dicide to use energy source dont you feel very cocky and lost on your own incredible new power? thats why nazo kinda lost he did not tought and count hyper knuckles and super tails to himself his own hyper form would beat the crap out both in no time
In other words,Nazo Slams your favorite verse (Using the Games scaling Would Make Hyper Shadic Stupidly powerful,ian Flynn's legit said that Hyper was The Super form of a Super Form,so that means Hyper Sonic is literally Super X Super
Similar to Vegito or Gogeta, Shadic as a fusion gives a super boost multiplier too. If you checked Chakra X's comments in DeviantArt you can deduce that Super Shadic can withstand a fight against Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow. So basically Hyper Shadic is as strong as a Super form of a Hyper form, multiplied by 2 since he's, well, 2 people.
A bif of a fun fact: Nazo was originally supposed to be some sort of beta transformation of the Super Sonic transformation as it was seen in its japanese teaser trailer, but was scrapped in the final product when the show released, and of course, they decided to stick with the original Super Sonic form. And that is way before Chakra-X, who then use Nazo and made him as a villain in his fan-made flash animation Sonic: Nazo Unleashed.
While I agree Nazo Unleashed definitely took place after the Adventure games and Shadow the Hedgehog(plus S3&K seems to be Canon to it) I dont think it necessarily took place after 06 just because of it's release date, same for Wrath of Nazo regarding Frontiers and Generations, so I dont think he scales over Solaris or the Time Eater let alone The End I will also note he might have simply teleported away when Super Shadow used the Chaos Blast as when the smoke clears all we see is a depowered Shadow and he teleporting back in That said OG Nazo wiping the floor with Dreamcast Era Super Sonic and Super Shadow is no small feat, that would require Metal Overlord levels of power, and his transformation would scale much much higher as it fought a fusion of their Hyper Forms which for all we know is another Super Form stacked over the Super Form and if the Frontiers leaks were true Hyper Sonic was supposed to be able to destroy a fullpower The End where Super Sonic even with the help of Supreme could not Plus while Nazo was attempting(and was shown to be very capable of) performing a planetary feat, his actual goal was to make the Master Emerald be impossible to be restored by scattering it across the galaxy/universe which requires a power far beyond planetary in my opinion, and he showed he was capable of going beyond that as when Hyper Shadic matched his first world destroying blast(which was supposed to achieve that) he threw even more energy spheres into the attack making it multiple times larger, and then when he was hit by Hyper Shadic's full power attack(which was only sightly weaker than his) head on he surviver intact(albeit in a void dimension) showing his endurance can tank that level of power Lastly when Hyper Shadic drained his chaos energy returning him to base and blasted him with everything he got, Nazo still managed to leave a remnant of himself behind that was able to regenerate into the one we see in the sequel The guy is tough as f
This was pretty short, and I personally felt like Nazo is multiverse level (bc of Wrath of Nazo, where he gets upgraded, and his transformations could possibly be even stronger than before if we take into account that Nazo is forever evolving. But, this is before he died at the hands of Shadic, so you could argue that he has to start all over or something. And if so, what's that going to do exactly? He'll just keep growing more and more with seemingly no limitations, death cannot stop Nazo, period.) Anyway, this was a fun little video to watch before going to sleep 👍
Nice video, but I do have just a small issue with it and that was saying that Nazo is above The End from Frontiers. Nazo shouldn’t be scaled to the end since Chakra X has stated that the Wrath of Nazo sequel takes place before Sonic Forces. Infinite is stated to be Sonic’s strongest foe at that point in the series, putting Infinite above Nazo and The End is above Infinite.
Sonic’s foe in terms of people Sonic faced in his Base Form is how strong Infinite is. In the short special animation Chakra-X made, infinite is in shock of seeing Chaos Nazo’s transformation. While it’s debatable on if Nazo is around The End level, Infinite isn’t really on par with any super form level character (which Phantom Ruby scaling something you can’t do with Infinite since he doesn’t scale. Wanking Sonic to be above the emeralds in base also doesn’t work when Frontiers exists).
@@darksonicyt5430 It is true that Infinite was surprised to see Nazo transform into Chaos Nazo in the small bit of animation, that doesn’t mean that Nazo would beat Infinite in a fight. He’s just surprised that he transformed, doesn’t really mean anything in terms of power. In Forces, Eggman did say his revenge would be a thousand fold, so there’s that. And Sonic in base has surpassed the Chaos Emeralds before. Sonic in Generations beat Perfect Chaos in base, putting his base at bare minimum on par with Super Sonic from Adventure. And in Forced when you beat Infinite the first fight he states that Sonic’s abilities has exceeded his previous data, which would logically contain data of Super Sonic.
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan Except who’s to say Infinite’s not referring to their first encounter? Or again in terms of base? Perfect Chaos is not the best example either since compared to later threats he’s not that big, but even then compared to when Sonic faced Perfect Chaos, Sonic does LESS damage to Perfect Chaos compared to Super. When Sonic hits his brain in Generations, all it does is explode, but when Super Sonic hits it, Chaos straight up dissolves and falls apart before reforming in another spot.
@@darksonicyt5430 Are you aware that when Forces was coming out Sega said that Infinite was the strongest enemy Sonic has ever faced? Sega themselves stated that Infinite is stronger than Dark Gaia, Solaris, and The Time Eater, all which took Super Sonic to beat. Since Sonic in his base form is able to fight and fend off Infinite in his first boss fight that would mean that base Sonic from Forces would beat Super Sonic from Generations. So when Infinite says that his abilities exceed his previous data it would be consistent, since Sonic showed abilities above Super Sonic in previous games by beating Infinite the second time around. And in the Generations boss fight of Perfect Chaos, after Sonic gives the final blow, Chaos does dissolve into the water. And I just realized this, but it takes base Sonic less hits to beat Perfect Chaos, whereSuper Sonic in Adventure had to hit him more.
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan i would disagree infinite beint stronger then solaris even cast dosent remembers solaris is a shit excuse gor people let alone solaris is a low multiversal at low ball he can just destroy space time quantinuum by his presence and eats demensions for lunch the reson shit jackal said strongest foe off sonic faced bucase sonic and other cast does not remember anything about solaris so they just say infinite is stronger evrey foe except for solaris,in adatinal infinite is hardly can win agianst even on mephiles null void would trap mephiles but its does 0 shit to solaris especily when solaris just can came back from defat and eats demensions etc
For the Nazo being stronger than The End statement, neither Nazo Unleashed nor Wrath of Nazo have a specific place in the timeline. Although, Nazo Unleashed does take place somewhere after Shadow the Hedgehog, due to Black Doom being mentioned. Not really any proof of 06 occuring yet in the original animation. (Correction: Huh, Wrath of Nazo takes place after Lost World)
Nazo is pretty weak actually. Cus hes only around star level based on his comments. He metions in his later transformation that he would be stronger than Any star. So in his base form and his perfect transformation he wasnt stronger than all stars (at least in his approxomation) Its pretty consistent with the scaling at the time since this was in development before things like Sonic 06 and Sonic generations. So all the notable scaling would have been in the planetary - Star ranges from scaling to Perfect chaos, The Eclipse Canon, Metal Overlord and comments from battle if you want to use those. Ite unlikeoy that he would scale in reference to Solaris due to the story being written and the episode being in development before Sonic 06. Using real world sonic games as reference for the placement of fan works isnt always the best as they are not official so their "canonical placement" in the timeline would be based on the creator not the release dare or official timelines. it would be better to use the internal logic of the story as well as comments from the creator if available. And based on whats shown in Nazo.Unleashed its Around Shadow 05/ Sonic battle. With comments from the creator saying its a few months after 05 Your speed scaling for Nazo is also a bit off since youre using info from other games post 06 when its not relevant. Games like Forces and Frontiers shows that sonic grows through his different adventures. So you shouldbbe careful about backscaling characters that way.
Well, in universe scaling has been done already, check the FC/OC wiki for that, the idea of games scaling with nazo has never been made which I think is why they choose to do this instead of in universe stuff
That Fact that base Nazo scales to Super Sonic and Solaris or Stronger which puts him already High Multiversal or even Higher Perfect Nazo is soloing your favor verse that he was On par with Hyper Shadic says something that we don't even know how Strong Hyper is alone which is the scary part amd i feel like Nazo speed should be incalculable to infinite since he already way faster than base sonic
Corrections: You're leaving out important details. In SA1 to Unleashed, Sonic needs outside help in the form of upgrades to use Lightspeed Dash. He can't achieve lightspeed naturally, as one of the core gameplay elements in Sonic games is to collect items to upgrade Sonic's speed. Colors DS and Runners are not canon since the console version of Colors is the canon version and Runners is a mobile game, and even then, Sonic needs a boost item in Runners.
Colors DS actually is canon since the Mother Wisp makes later appearances like in TSR which Frontiers confirms that game is canon. Console colors barely has story so what’s stopping us from making it non canon? Sonic Forces also has the Burst wisp however that’s only in the DS version and not the console one so again, there’s nothing stopping us from saying console is not canon. With both versions, you can simply make both of them canon with the cutscenes and interactions being offscreen, since nothing’s stopping it from happening.
@darksonicyt5430 You're using TSR (a non canon game) as a copy paste effort to justify another copy paste of two Colors games to make things canon, haha. No, Colors DS is not canon. Might as well make LW 3DS canon since as well, but you can't since the console version is the canon one. Also if you have justify "because there's no story" and more importantly, "what's stopping us," then that's really a reach on your argument. Colors DS is not canon, nor is frankensteining two Colors games because you feel like it.
Colors DS is canon stated in the interview and the games have the same story with just different also TSR is a canon game stated by Iizuka to take place in the sonic universe and proven by Frontiers mentioning it events dude
@@SpiralVortexFrontiers confirmed TSR to be canon my dude. Plus you didn’t bother taking into account the Burst Wisp even returns in other games meaning yes it happened. Also, using Lost World 3DS? Aka one that has the only difference in gameplay and not story? Cool. Would’ve been an argument if you did Generations 3DS which can be easily disproven with Classic Sonic having the Homing Attack, but ya gotta do Lost World? Nice try but uh…recommend looking up more info before trying to pull a lol like that.
@@ShadowAtoresShadic's weaker than Hyper Nazo. He was getting overpowered in the 'beam struggle'(though from Nazo's side, it was a ball of energy) and needed Knuckles' and Tails' help to beat him.
Overall i enjoyed this, haven't seen people scale fan works for sonic. My one disagreement is that, if i remember correctly, Chakra-X stated Wrath of Nazo takes place before Forces so he wouldn't not be above Infinite or The End (who is most definitely the strongest character so far), so unless there has been any retcon to that I can't remember that is the only scaling problem I can find.
In reality hyper perfect nazo is at planetary to star level, the feat with solaris does not work for quite simple reasons already there is nothing that really proves that nazo unleashed is taking place after 2006 and it seems to me that the creator said that it takes place some time after shadow the hedgehog and especially Nazo himself declares that he cannot surpass the master emerald because it has infinite power and says that he can never have so much power, just with this declaration any official super form outclasses him because in the games the chaos emerald has an infinite power sometimes it is even said that only one has an infinite power which makes a chaos emerald of the games as powerful as the master emerald of nazo unleashed so imagine its 7 times, when I said all the super form it surpasses classic sonic is included in it and in view of the feats it is seen, classic sonic in generations fights against time eater and they travel up to the end of time and time eater a creature that can erase reality itself and creates an infinite universe where time does not exist does not even manage to hurt classic super sonic while hyper perfect nazo only threatens the planet that eggman already threatened in sonic 3. What makes Nazo at star level is his speed, he is faster than base sonic who can travel in time and dimensions with his own speed in sonic cd and sonic rush with the special stage classic sonic also being able to repair time and space while running
Nazo unleashed did not take place after frontiers correction it took place before meaning the end claps my boi Nazo even tho it id hard to say the end and Nazo it’s not even close the end solos Nazo sadly and sonic and super sonic after frontiers surpasses Nazo with ease
Nazo isn't infinite speed since infinite means speed with no end you need to learn the meaning of infinite if "Sonic is Mftl+" shouldn't he have infinite speed too? but he doesn't... because his speed has an end to it let alone he has a limit to be honest... Infinite is something that cannot be calculated nor measured you wanked off Nazo's speed.
believe what this video is saying is that, nazo is infinite/immeasurable through reacting to super sonic (who is scaled at immeasurable), and base nazo overpowers super sonic, meaning nazo should be comparable if not faster than super sonic.
the video it's done well, however nazo is not stronger than the end and Solaris, let me explain nazo unleashed is a fanmade series that takes place after the events of the 3rd season of Sonic because after those events the events of Sonic Heroes and Shadow the hedgehog but the events of Sonic 06 didn't happen, to make you understand Solaris was high multi Galaxy level while perfect nazo was only planetary level, while the hyper nazo and hyper shadic full power form were at star level, as we speak speed no base nazo is slower than base Sonic beat him via Chaos control. without it Nazo couldn't keep up with or surpass Sonic's speed. (Sonic base form nazo unleashed=Sonic base Sonic x
Exactly. I'm a little annoyed that everyone is scaling fan-made characters to the multiverse just because they've surpassed the super form, when in fact they didn't have the power to actually do that. Solaris has absorbed time and space, Dark Gaia kills all life on the planet with just awakening, and The End destroys planets and stars quickly and easily without using all his power. Nazo, in his basic form, could only destroy the entire city with all his might, and Hyper Nazo's most powerful attack was to destroy only the planet. Consequently, the characters and shapes in the animation are simply weakened because the logic of Dragon Ball's power was used there.
@@user-qf5fj3mk8e exactly and more nazo unleashed is the reason why people are convinced that Dark Sonic is stronger than super Sonic when in reality any super state would be enough at 1% without difficulty, when in reality nazo against Dark Sonic only used 10% while against super Sonic 100% basically nazo 10%
No one remember 06 events after Solaris erased so that doesnt count. Time Eater had time space destroying power's before Eggman enhance him Nazo would only scale to where it was recently released which was 2007 Nice vidoe tho.
Seelkadoom Next?
Yes Please
Isn't Seelkadoom just a bio engineered Shadic though?
Significantly weaker tho
A few corrections actually. It’s mentioned how Nazo Unleashed takes place four months after Shadow the Hedgehog, with Wrath of Nazo taking place sometime after Sonic Lost World (don’t believe me? Look it up). Does that scale Nazo even lower? No since the Metal Nazos in Wrath of Nazo had Sonic and Shadow go Super again as the Metal Nazos are as powerful as regular base Nazo. However with Wrath of Nazo, you can just chop that off to Nazo also developing more when he was asleep, and not include that same scaling for Nazo Unleashed. As for more information on how strong Perfect Nazo is, Chakra-X also mentions Super Shadic to be above Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow, however Super Shadic was also weaker than Perfect Nazo.
I honestly dont remember that comment but honestly it tracks based on Shadow having his memory and tails' buster canon being a reference rto battle. So it taking place somewhere between those games makes sense
@@lerona.martyr3811 It’s even shown in the Nazo Unleashed animation when Nazo is about to become Perfect Nazo, as the last villain that’s seen is Black Doom instead of someone like Mephiles or Solaris.
tru tru
@@darksonicyt5430when and where was it mentioned that Nazo unleashed took place after shadow the hedgehog.. let alone lost world
I never heard or read anything from chakra that said that
Okay subscribing after this entertaining video. It feels like Sonic just gets faster and faster each power scaling video I watch and I'm loving it.
While it’s likely, it’s not confirmed that Nazo is stronger than the end since Chakra x has stated that “Wrath of Nazo” takes place before Sonic Forces, which is before Sonic frontiers
It's about time someone analyze Nazo. And dang right Nazo is close to the End since when Sonic and Shadow went Hyper, Perfect Nazo was a bit concerned, and Sonic stopped the End with Starfall State at Full Cyber power, which it's below Hyper Sonic. And it took a fusion to best Perfect Nazo and rival Hyper Perfect Nazo, who admitted Hyper Shadic is still faster!
U probably should go rewatch Nazo unleashed tbh
@@yodamaster-lv6xj I watched it countless times. I know what I'm talking about.
Regardless, Nazo Unleashed does take place after Sonic 06, hence the year of the video is 2008, and in that continuity, the Metarex event had happened due to existence of Dark Sonic.
@@joel1245 Hyper Shadic only rivaled perfect Nazo. Nazo said that all of them combined wouldn’t match the amount of power he possessed including hyper Shadic. Chakra x even said Hyper Nazo completely outclassed Hyper Shadic so no he didn’t rival Hyper Nazo, only perfect Nazo. Then I never heard chakra say that Nazo unleashed was after 06 or any of the canon. Mind providing proof pal?
@@yodamaster-lv6xj Dude, the setting is after 06, just the time paradox gave everyone amnesia. There's also mentioned of the Black Arms and Shadow using a gun, so the Black Arms invasion had already happened. And Rouge and Omega are at GUN HQ so they're already agents.
No, Hyper Shadic was fighting at half strength, as Perfect Nazo was heavily fatigue while Shadic wasn't tired at all.
Hyper Nazo said that with confidence because Shadic is running low on Rings, thus weakening him. Regardless he acknowledged Shadic is still faster and plans to immediately blow up the planet, which it's why he dared Shadic to stop him with his remaining rings.
He's only winning the clash because he kept expanding the Master Breaker's size and density. Just being distracted by Tails and Knuckles allowed Shadic to win. Also, Shadic just stole back the negative energy of the Super Emerald so Shadic was indeed holding back until the beam clash, thanks to the Sonic nature in the fusion.
@@joel1245 but still dosent its changes much even if "shadic" did "hold back" even creator of nazo states that hyper form or hyper perfect(not realy matter whic one you call) is outcalls hyper shadic completly and i even have an interesting detial ever wondered how nazo knows most of "forms" sonic and shadow has? like cmon the man knows super and hyper forms exist but he dosent know "dark" form that sonic has meaning during the time when he was inside off emeralds leted him know what happening on outside of emeralds and by this theory its makes sense why nazo dosent knows what dark form is and how sonic has it,remember how sonic gone dark form on sonic x? "fake emeralds" key word "fake" sonic just only gone to dark form via by his negative feelings and dozens of fake emeralds WHIC is weaker then nazo unleashad dark sonic who DID used 7 real chaos emeralds so thats makes sense why nazo not akcnowladges dark sonic as he was only limited to wherever emeralds goes and who ever used them etc back to our thing why this whole knowladge matters? well you see nazo's plan was blow up earth to shatter master emerald make it imposible to be restored by knuckles or anyone else but his plan "was" just go perfect and finish off the planet but what happened that he didint count? hyper sonic and shadow came up and prety much haded egde betwen perfect form of nazo's onto the classic moment where he admits how he impresed how two turned chaos emeralds to super emeralds meaning he clearly knows super emeralds are exist but why wasnt his hyper form was not part of his plan? bucase its simple he cant turn chaos emeralds to super emeralds thats somthing he cant do so his plan was limited to perfect form but thanks to sonic and shadow he gained way more power then he tought on his plans and due the this its makes sense why he lost think about it your a vilan your base form is litearly almost cant be matched at all then you dicide to power up via by an energy source to further more and finish off evreything without diff and heck you acknowladge you can be more powerfull via upgrading your energy sources but you cant do it on your own,and out of sudden your energy sorces get upgraded by your enemies and reliazing that fact you dicide to use energy source dont you feel very cocky and lost on your own incredible new power? thats why nazo kinda lost he did not tought and count hyper knuckles and super tails to himself his own hyper form would beat the crap out both in no time
In other words,Nazo Slams your favorite verse
(Using the Games scaling Would Make Hyper Shadic Stupidly powerful,ian Flynn's legit said that Hyper was The Super form of a Super Form,so that means Hyper Sonic is literally Super X Super
Similar to Vegito or Gogeta, Shadic as a fusion gives a super boost multiplier too.
If you checked Chakra X's comments in DeviantArt you can deduce that Super Shadic can withstand a fight against Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow.
So basically Hyper Shadic is as strong as a Super form of a Hyper form, multiplied by 2 since he's, well, 2 people.
@ZeoXeZeZo That's exactly what I was thinking when I left my comment, and left a comment on someone else's.
cringe? hell no. it's still fire to this day. probably the most popular non official sonic character ever
A bif of a fun fact: Nazo was originally supposed to be some sort of beta transformation of the Super Sonic transformation as it was seen in its japanese teaser trailer, but was scrapped in the final product when the show released, and of course, they decided to stick with the original Super Sonic form.
And that is way before Chakra-X, who then use Nazo and made him as a villain in his fan-made flash animation Sonic: Nazo Unleashed.
While I agree Nazo Unleashed definitely took place after the Adventure games and Shadow the Hedgehog(plus S3&K seems to be Canon to it) I dont think it necessarily took place after 06 just because of it's release date, same for Wrath of Nazo regarding Frontiers and Generations, so I dont think he scales over Solaris or the Time Eater let alone The End
I will also note he might have simply teleported away when Super Shadow used the Chaos Blast as when the smoke clears all we see is a depowered Shadow and he teleporting back in
That said OG Nazo wiping the floor with Dreamcast Era Super Sonic and Super Shadow is no small feat, that would require Metal Overlord levels of power, and his transformation would scale much much higher as it fought a fusion of their Hyper Forms which for all we know is another Super Form stacked over the Super Form and if the Frontiers leaks were true Hyper Sonic was supposed to be able to destroy a fullpower The End where Super Sonic even with the help of Supreme could not
Plus while Nazo was attempting(and was shown to be very capable of) performing a planetary feat, his actual goal was to make the Master Emerald be impossible to be restored by scattering it across the galaxy/universe which requires a power far beyond planetary in my opinion, and he showed he was capable of going beyond that as when Hyper Shadic matched his first world destroying blast(which was supposed to achieve that) he threw even more energy spheres into the attack making it multiple times larger, and then when he was hit by Hyper Shadic's full power attack(which was only sightly weaker than his) head on he surviver intact(albeit in a void dimension) showing his endurance can tank that level of power
Lastly when Hyper Shadic drained his chaos energy returning him to base and blasted him with everything he got, Nazo still managed to leave a remnant of himself behind that was able to regenerate into the one we see in the sequel
The guy is tough as f
It is criminal how low people see your videos. Absolute W vid
Well thank you for the kind words!
This was pretty short, and I personally felt like Nazo is multiverse level (bc of Wrath of Nazo, where he gets upgraded, and his transformations could possibly be even stronger than before if we take into account that Nazo is forever evolving. But, this is before he died at the hands of Shadic, so you could argue that he has to start all over or something. And if so, what's that going to do exactly? He'll just keep growing more and more with seemingly no limitations, death cannot stop Nazo, period.)
Anyway, this was a fun little video to watch before going to sleep 👍
Edit: I meant low tier deity level at best.
He is definitely one of the strongest well known Sonic Fanmade characters.
Nice video, but I do have just a small issue with it and that was saying that Nazo is above The End from Frontiers. Nazo shouldn’t be scaled to the end since Chakra X has stated that the Wrath of Nazo sequel takes place before Sonic Forces. Infinite is stated to be Sonic’s strongest foe at that point in the series, putting Infinite above Nazo and The End is above Infinite.
Sonic’s foe in terms of people Sonic faced in his Base Form is how strong Infinite is. In the short special animation Chakra-X made, infinite is in shock of seeing Chaos Nazo’s transformation. While it’s debatable on if Nazo is around The End level, Infinite isn’t really on par with any super form level character (which Phantom Ruby scaling something you can’t do with Infinite since he doesn’t scale. Wanking Sonic to be above the emeralds in base also doesn’t work when Frontiers exists).
@@darksonicyt5430 It is true that Infinite was surprised to see Nazo transform into Chaos Nazo in the small bit of animation, that doesn’t mean that Nazo would beat Infinite in a fight. He’s just surprised that he transformed, doesn’t really mean anything in terms of power. In Forces, Eggman did say his revenge would be a thousand fold, so there’s that.
And Sonic in base has surpassed the Chaos Emeralds before. Sonic in Generations beat Perfect Chaos in base, putting his base at bare minimum on par with Super Sonic from Adventure. And in Forced when you beat Infinite the first fight he states that Sonic’s abilities has exceeded his previous data, which would logically contain data of Super Sonic.
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan Except who’s to say Infinite’s not referring to their first encounter? Or again in terms of base? Perfect Chaos is not the best example either since compared to later threats he’s not that big, but even then compared to when Sonic faced Perfect Chaos, Sonic does LESS damage to Perfect Chaos compared to Super. When Sonic hits his brain in Generations, all it does is explode, but when Super Sonic hits it, Chaos straight up dissolves and falls apart before reforming in another spot.
@@darksonicyt5430 Are you aware that when Forces was coming out Sega said that Infinite was the strongest enemy Sonic has ever faced? Sega themselves stated that Infinite is stronger than Dark Gaia, Solaris, and The Time Eater, all which took Super Sonic to beat. Since Sonic in his base form is able to fight and fend off Infinite in his first boss fight that would mean that base Sonic from Forces would beat Super Sonic from Generations. So when Infinite says that his abilities exceed his previous data it would be consistent, since Sonic showed abilities above Super Sonic in previous games by beating Infinite the second time around.
And in the Generations boss fight of Perfect Chaos, after Sonic gives the final blow, Chaos does dissolve into the water. And I just realized this, but it takes base Sonic less hits to beat Perfect Chaos, whereSuper Sonic in Adventure had to hit him more.
@@GrimmHunterSaiyan i would disagree infinite beint stronger then solaris even cast dosent remembers solaris is a shit excuse gor people let alone solaris is a low multiversal at low ball he can just destroy space time quantinuum by his presence and eats demensions for lunch the reson shit jackal said strongest foe off sonic faced bucase sonic and other cast does not remember anything about solaris so they just say infinite is stronger evrey foe except for solaris,in adatinal infinite is hardly can win agianst even on mephiles null void would trap mephiles but its does 0 shit to solaris especily when solaris just can came back from defat and eats demensions etc
Nazo may not be a official character in the franchise but he’s pretty powerful
For the Nazo being stronger than The End statement, neither Nazo Unleashed nor Wrath of Nazo have a specific place in the timeline. Although, Nazo Unleashed does take place somewhere after Shadow the Hedgehog, due to Black Doom being mentioned. Not really any proof of 06 occuring yet in the original animation.
(Correction: Huh, Wrath of Nazo takes place after Lost World)
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Nazo is pretty weak actually. Cus hes only around star level based on his comments. He metions in his later transformation that he would be stronger than Any star.
So in his base form and his perfect transformation he wasnt stronger than all stars (at least in his approxomation) Its pretty consistent with the scaling at the time since this was in development before things like Sonic 06 and Sonic generations.
So all the notable scaling would have been in the planetary - Star ranges from scaling to Perfect chaos, The Eclipse Canon, Metal Overlord and comments from battle if you want to use those.
Ite unlikeoy that he would scale in reference to Solaris due to the story being written and the episode being in development before Sonic 06. Using real world sonic games as reference for the placement of fan works isnt always the best as they are not official so their "canonical placement" in the timeline would be based on the creator not the release dare or official timelines.
it would be better to use the internal logic of the story as well as comments from the creator if available. And based on whats shown in Nazo.Unleashed its Around Shadow 05/ Sonic battle. With comments from the creator saying its a few months after 05
Your speed scaling for Nazo is also a bit off since youre using info from other games post 06 when its not relevant. Games like Forces and Frontiers shows that sonic grows through his different adventures. So you shouldbbe careful about backscaling characters that way.
Well, in universe scaling has been done already, check the FC/OC wiki for that, the idea of games scaling with nazo has never been made which I think is why they choose to do this instead of in universe stuff
I remember watching this as a kid
Vegito Vs goku blac
18 years later 😂
That Fact that base Nazo scales to Super Sonic and Solaris or Stronger which puts him already High Multiversal or even Higher Perfect Nazo is soloing your favor verse that he was On par with Hyper Shadic says something that we don't even know how Strong Hyper is alone which is the scary part amd i feel like Nazo speed should be incalculable to infinite since he already way faster than base sonic
Corrections: You're leaving out important details. In SA1 to Unleashed, Sonic needs outside help in the form of upgrades to use Lightspeed Dash. He can't achieve lightspeed naturally, as one of the core gameplay elements in Sonic games is to collect items to upgrade Sonic's speed. Colors DS and Runners are not canon since the console version of Colors is the canon version and Runners is a mobile game, and even then, Sonic needs a boost item in Runners.
Colors DS actually is canon since the Mother Wisp makes later appearances like in TSR which Frontiers confirms that game is canon. Console colors barely has story so what’s stopping us from making it non canon? Sonic Forces also has the Burst wisp however that’s only in the DS version and not the console one so again, there’s nothing stopping us from saying console is not canon. With both versions, you can simply make both of them canon with the cutscenes and interactions being offscreen, since nothing’s stopping it from happening.
@darksonicyt5430 You're using TSR (a non canon game) as a copy paste effort to justify another copy paste of two Colors games to make things canon, haha. No, Colors DS is not canon. Might as well make LW 3DS canon since as well, but you can't since the console version is the canon one. Also if you have justify "because there's no story" and more importantly, "what's stopping us," then that's really a reach on your argument. Colors DS is not canon, nor is frankensteining two Colors games because you feel like it.
@@SpiralVortexwhere's your source of team sonic racing not being canon.
Also, about colors Ds, go watch the bumblekast mini (June 19th, 2023)
Colors DS is canon stated in the interview and the games have the same story with just different also TSR is a canon game stated by Iizuka to take place in the sonic universe and proven by Frontiers mentioning it events dude
@@SpiralVortexFrontiers confirmed TSR to be canon my dude. Plus you didn’t bother taking into account the Burst Wisp even returns in other games meaning yes it happened. Also, using Lost World 3DS? Aka one that has the only difference in gameplay and not story? Cool. Would’ve been an argument if you did Generations 3DS which can be easily disproven with Classic Sonic having the Homing Attack, but ya gotta do Lost World? Nice try but uh…recommend looking up more info before trying to pull a lol like that.
How strong is shadic
Around the same level, arguably stronger potentially.
@@ShadowAtoresShadic's weaker than Hyper Nazo. He was getting overpowered in the 'beam struggle'(though from Nazo's side, it was a ball of energy) and needed Knuckles' and Tails' help to beat him.
Base Shadic > Super Sonic and Super Shadow
Super Shadic > Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow
Hyper Shadic: hard to say but it’s massive.
Overall i enjoyed this, haven't seen people scale fan works for sonic. My one disagreement is that, if i remember correctly, Chakra-X stated Wrath of Nazo takes place before Forces so he wouldn't not be above Infinite or The End (who is most definitely the strongest character so far), so unless there has been any retcon to that I can't remember that is the only scaling problem I can find.
In reality hyper perfect nazo is at planetary to star level, the feat with solaris does not work for quite simple reasons already there is nothing that really proves that nazo unleashed is taking place after 2006 and it seems to me that the creator said that it takes place some time after shadow the hedgehog and especially Nazo himself declares that he cannot surpass the master emerald because it has infinite power and says that he can never have so much power, just with this declaration any official super form outclasses him because in the games the chaos emerald has an infinite power sometimes it is even said that only one has an infinite power which makes a chaos emerald of the games as powerful as the master emerald of nazo unleashed so imagine its 7 times, when I said all the super form it surpasses classic sonic is included in it and in view of the feats it is seen, classic sonic in generations fights against time eater and they travel up to the end of time and time eater a creature that can erase reality itself and creates an infinite universe where time does not exist does not even manage to hurt classic super sonic while hyper perfect nazo only threatens the planet that eggman already threatened in sonic 3.
What makes Nazo at star level is his speed, he is faster than base sonic who can travel in time and dimensions with his own speed in sonic cd and sonic rush with the special stage classic sonic also being able to repair time and space while running
Nazo unleashed did not take place after frontiers correction it took place before meaning the end claps my boi Nazo even tho it id hard to say the end and Nazo it’s not even close the end solos Nazo sadly and sonic and super sonic after frontiers surpasses Nazo with ease
Cool video, but what do you mean by it's cringe?! Shadic ain't cringe. But it's okay, I like the analysis.
Do Seelkadoom, Aeon and the SMBZ version of Mecha Sonic
Nazo isn't infinite speed since infinite means speed with no end you need to learn the meaning of infinite if "Sonic is Mftl+" shouldn't he have infinite speed too? but he doesn't... because his speed has an end to it let alone he has a limit to be honest... Infinite is something that cannot be calculated nor measured you wanked off Nazo's speed.
believe what this video is saying is that, nazo is infinite/immeasurable through reacting to super sonic (who is scaled at immeasurable), and base nazo overpowers super sonic, meaning nazo should be comparable if not faster than super sonic.
Womp womp
Set theory
Please Metallix next (SpacePea's version)
the video it's done well, however nazo is not stronger than the end and Solaris, let me explain nazo unleashed is a fanmade series that takes place after the events of the 3rd season of Sonic because after those events the events of Sonic Heroes and Shadow the hedgehog but the events of Sonic 06 didn't happen, to make you understand Solaris was high multi Galaxy level while perfect nazo was only planetary level, while the hyper nazo and hyper shadic full power form were at star level, as we speak speed no base nazo is slower than base Sonic beat him via Chaos control. without it Nazo couldn't keep up with or surpass Sonic's speed. (Sonic base form nazo unleashed=Sonic base Sonic x
Exactly. I'm a little annoyed that everyone is scaling fan-made characters to the multiverse just because they've surpassed the super form, when in fact they didn't have the power to actually do that. Solaris has absorbed time and space, Dark Gaia kills all life on the planet with just awakening, and The End destroys planets and stars quickly and easily without using all his power. Nazo, in his basic form, could only destroy the entire city with all his might, and Hyper Nazo's most powerful attack was to destroy only the planet. Consequently, the characters and shapes in the animation are simply weakened because the logic of Dragon Ball's power was used there.
@@user-qf5fj3mk8e exactly and more nazo unleashed is the reason why people are convinced that Dark Sonic is stronger than super Sonic when in reality any super state would be enough at 1% without difficulty, when in reality nazo against Dark Sonic only used 10% while against super Sonic 100% basically nazo 10%
Solaris was not high multi galaxy, Solaris was gonna consume all of time itself, that's way beyond
@@RackerTheRascalMashup Solaris
No one remember 06 events after Solaris erased so that doesnt count.
Time Eater had time space destroying power's before Eggman enhance him
Nazo would only scale to where it was recently released which was 2007
Nice vidoe tho.
Erasing doesn't matter it proved that super forms were capable of such power on destroying another god
How strong is shadow
Goku blac = nazo
Wasn’t there a clip about how nazo homophobic about sonic and shadow fusing
😮This is the first time I've seen a fc power scaling video. I require MMMOOOOOOOORRE plz.
Nazo is high multiverse if not higher.
So is basicly dragon ball gt?