How to setup a CONCEALED DUTY BELT | POLICE AND SECURITY TRAINING
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2022
- How to carry our EDC DUTY WEAPON, ASP BATON, HANDCUFFS, and Bulletproof vest concealed. whether for executive protection, a more generalized contracting, or policing purpose low visibility setups have distinct challenges but we can overcome them with planning and a little bit of forethought about the job we are doing.
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You've helped me more than you'll ever know. Watched you since I did security. Now I'm a full time police officer. Thank you for your advice. I've bought so many things you've suggested and it's paid off!
I do contract low viz asset protection and high threat security for a living and the fundamentals of this video are sound. Depending on what you’re trying to do, you need to vary what you carry. For most of my work I carry g43x appendix with shield arms mags, one zip cuff fed through my belt loops around my waist, surefire stiletto and soft body armor. There’s a few more odds and ends that go with it but that’s the quick and dirty
I also moved to a 43x with shield mags for contracting, it's really got no downside with the capacity and the grip of a compact with better carryability.
@@jk.smalls the only real “downside” I see is felt recoil with sustained fire. IMO it’s not a pleasant gun to shoot, at all. It’s snappy and after a while it’s just annoying. But when you take size, weight, and round count into consideration, it’s damn near impossible to beat.
@@NY_Prodigy Yea I think it has the tendency to twist more because of the thin frame, because of that I changed my grip from the standard thumbs forward to a wedge grip and that helped a lot. If you're curious about that technique Masad Ayoob from the Wilson Combat channel has a great video on it.
Where do you put your radio?
@@trueblue9101 depends on a few factors. Attire, climate, nature of the job ect… I try to never wear the typical ear piece. Just sticks out, despite its intended use. But either in back pocket or belt line. I have a couple rigged up apple wired headphones I use with them. Again, low viz
Now THIS is a great video idea on an important topic that has not been covered before. Thank you, Tommy!
I've learned the importance of looking squared away, it can for sure defuse/prevent stuff from happening. This is one of your best efforts yet Tommy, I never even thought about going grey so there's that too.
Just ordered that Kore Essentil batte belt in OD green. My LE dept bought 200 of them in black but I wanted a personal for OD. The adjustment ability is outstanding.
Solid info. As a professional who did PSD/EP WORK for years, having the right look and kit is key. Only thing I could suggest for this setup would be to maybe trade out the single mag pouch and the double pouch that had your flashlight and baton for a triple HSGI Pistol Taco or similar multi-use pouch. That way you can ditch/move the baton and light off your belt line and add those extra mags if you needed them. Couldn’t tell what pouch that was for the light/baton so if they could accept mags then you’re already there.
Another tip I recommend is band t-shirts. The band logo tends to draw peoples' eyes upwards away from your belt, nobody will think twice at someone wearing a Led Zeppelin t shirt or something. Denim jackets blend in with a lot of environments, too, so a denim jacket over a band t-shirt tends to be a good low-viz.
Great information here. I'm a PPO in Texas and while every detail I've done so far required casual/everyday wear. Low profile holsters, mag pouches, and other gear that can be hidden under an extra sized shirt make a nice difference.
That baton certainly is more concealable than the old hickory stick some agencies still use :)
I have a pretty squared away setup for my work, but I'm looking at concealable body armor for Christmas this year. We just had a shooting where a some guards were shot and a couple people at a resort close to my post. I heard the shots that night and the Police shortly afterward so it was something that made me think about stepping up my game. Guard Dog has some pretty reasonable and well made vests.
Great video. I actually learned alot. Only been doing security for about 3years now. I'm in the career field I actually want to be till retirement. Thanks for the informative video.
Great video. Very informative and you gave me some things to consider for plain clothes work. Thanks!
thank you for showing the allegiance holster, after seeing how it fit you I had to get one and its the last holster ill ever buy for g43x ccw. For anyone else that wants to see more of it I did a little show and tell vid.
Good info. Mostly love the idea of a belt that adjusts as needed. That seems pretty smart.
A good old fashioned FFT video! Man, I started in this world around the time you started your channel. Now I pretty regularly work plainclothes details for political events or at live music events. I worked in Portland, OR throughout the pandemic / race riots and my team went plainclothes for about 8 months so we didn't attract attention from rioters. Once we started wearing blue jeans and tactical armor over our hoodies we quickly learned that was a dumb idea. Getting mistaken for a Proud Boy was not fun during an arson investigation.
Lots of good well-reasoned arguments in your video Tommy. I will probably buy a new belt just for low-visibility assignments. It never occurred to me that I could just unstuck the front of my shirt...
Did you end up finding a good solution?
Great video sir! Very informative and definitely some things I'll use in the future!
Nice job. I agree - you look somewhere in between a cop and a civvie in that outfit. Which is exactly what you were going for I think. Mission accomplished.
Awesome video..learned a lot .. I appreciate your honesty and thoroughness.
Phenomenal video and topic FFT. Epic shelf behind you too.
Great tip given thanks. The Kore IWB Edu belt is a good one as well
Great stuff as always! 👍
Superb, thanks for this. Very good content well presented. Sadly I needed this in the late 90s and early 2000s...the kit was a bit basic in those days. Some superb kit available these days.
I have been waiting for this!!!!! Thank you for this video!
Neat vid. Thanks for the good info Tommy! 👍
Great video very informative and thanks for sharing!
Very good information, Tommy.
Some good ideas. Thanks
Amazing video I’m moving up to lvl 4 soon and I’m sure this will be helpful
Great video! Thanks
Great video! I do this kind of work and I use 5.11 Apex pants and spread my gear out among my pockets.
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Very informative video, thank you. Subscribed.
That watch to like ratio is the highest I’ve ever seen!
Very interesting video. Respectfully though, if I saw someone dressed like you in this video, I'd immediately think police officer. The large black tactical jacket, tactical black polo, gray man gray tactical pants, black tactical watch, probably black tactical boots, and shaved head look like a cop or CCW carrier who wants people to think he's a cop. Most people won't notice and those that do either aren't a problem or might be deterred. It's a fine line between overt and covert (and covertly overt).
In a true "covert" position all you would have on you is your firearm and 2 fists lol. That's what it boils down too. Bc like you said all that other stuff is a dead giveaway.
me too soft target 😂😂😂😂
Good presentation.
With my security company we have to keep are shirts tucked in, I use my duty windbreaker to cover my duty belt some times if I don't want some things showing on my duty belt at some job sites
Baseball and Hockey Jerseys are my favorite to wear with black cargo shorts or pants.
Being a FL resident.
A twill or cotton polo with an undershirt is a huge NO WAY! Especially in the summer.
We were a Columbia button-up fishing shirt, that is the ultimate gray man here.
Great video. I’m a deputy south of you in peoria county.
Amazing videos keep it up 👍 😀
Great Content!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it's rare that you don't have a sleeve of tattoos on your arm , which I've noticed so many guys do nowadays. Great ideas on options for low visibility.
During certain ops, I'll wear a tattoo UV sleeve over my arms. Throws off lots of people,and let's me change my look in about 1 second.
Will really like to see a EM1 Emergency detention video... And a field interview how to ask follow up questions... Will be cool.
Nice tips on the clothing choices
Respectfully, if I saw someone who looked like this I'd immediately think cop. The large tactical jacket, tactical black polo, gray man gray tactical pants, probably black tactical boots, and shaved head look like cop or CCW carrier who wants people to think he's a cop.
@@bwofficial1776 100%.
Even if someone does okay frumping out like a typical, oblivious soccer-dad, black boots (or frikkin Solomons) are a tell the inexperienced overlook.
Posture/demeanor are almost impossible to hide w/o covert or undercover work experience, though.
Game knows Game...predators know other predators.
@@bwofficial1776 Depends on the environment, most office environment requires trimmed/clean shaven and semi formal wear and dress. If this was a secure acsess building in private sector/Corp environment, I don't think he'd stick out to hard.
Always wanted a Unity Tactical Clutch belt over a Crye LVS (or SafeLife vest for a cheaper option) as a plainclothes/high threat concealment load.
Wish I knew of this equipment of when I did personal security. That belt tho, having that readjustment capability from going to sitting to standing would of been a life saver.
Unfortunately I couldn't get the amour concealment down yet, but the concealment part is easier even within the last 5 years because this stuff is getting less and less expensive and more companies are making this stuff.
Everytime I see your vids on private sector gear I kick myself from going from private sector to LE, but you don't do it for the money.
Kore makes the best belt around for concealed carry in the 1.5 inch width but I had no idea they make battle belts. I need that kind of adjustment for my range training becuase of my loads I tend to carry.
Personally, I use the inner/outer Velcro combo and it allows all holsters to stay, no sag, ANNND I don't have to use belt keepers (but I still do for uniform purposes).
I would like to add that if you wish to conceal a vest it might be worthwhile to use a NIJ IIA rated vest instead of a IIIA. Its generally speaking significantly thinner but this depends on what you carry and what type of threats your expecting to face.
Great video! What’s your take on the unity clutch belt? I’ve had decent results using this item in a hot climate. As you stated, the cover garment makes or breaks your ability to effectively conceal.
If you're wanting to conceal, why not put your duty gun into a CCW IWB holster with a mag pouch such as the T.Rex arms sidecar and you can run everything else on the belt other than cuffs which go in a pocket. Nobody thinks you're a cop or security and if they see you, they think you're an EMT or firefighter or paramedic if you've got a tourniquet, trauma shears. especially if you're carrying an IFAK or med kit on you.
I was going to ask where you buy your polo shirt from. It looks really good and has a good fit. Can you add a link to where we can get those
Yeah I love texas but once it hits May it gets really hard to hid my batman belt
Nice
Golf shirts are great for details, they also keep things pretty cool and breezy if you wear armor. Another good option for a cover garment is an oversize button up with snap closure.
That's Blauer jacket looks awesome; is it noisy when moving around our is it because of your mic placement?
Careful what is shared.
Great vid!
What is your opinion about Olight M2R Pro please?
Thanks
Grenade in your pocket. Olights have a history of going boom in your pocket
this is a great video!! i'm a 60 yo man in the pacific nw who has cc in wa & or (cuz or doesn't recognize any other states carry permit), and these are very practical tips for those of us that lawfully carry.
i don't think i need the body armor, baton, or handcuffs. what i DO need is a holster, med kit with tourniquet (in case i get shot or stabbed - or someone else does), spare mag, and flashlight, as well as pepper spray holder. i think you left oc out of the equation though. i'd MUCH rather hose someone down with that than shoot them.
that jacket would work most of the year where i live. i also have columbia sportswear fleece and waterproof hiking shoes, all of which i love! i have lots of columbia gear so i can ride my bike in the rain. around here, we'd wear an untucked flannel shirt, btw. i do this everyday most of the year, and i'm a grey man! how bout you post a link to the jacket?
i like the idea of a duty belt for someone like me, cuz i've worn them in my 20's, and it's far more practical than some heavy belt you have thread through your trousers. plus it works for fat cops, lol! not that i'm fat: i still fall well within usaf regulations for weight, although at my age, not fitness.
i'm too old to eff around with anyone in a physical fight - which i'm going to lose, so my decades of preparation are paying off! old age and treachery WILL overcome youth and skill, lol!
Tommy has mentioned in the past that he is not a fan of OC, since half of it ends up blowing back in his face. Although he says it's good for getting people out of confined spaces like a closet.
Usually these environments aren't conducive to OC or even carrying it concealed.
Unfortunately I am in Southern Arizona so the cover garment is a no go
Do you provide training for security in Chicago?
In the next week or so I will be starting my first armed security job. So far on my duty belt is just my firearm & 1 pair of handcuffs. Any advice you can give me will be greatly appreciated thanks..
Oc spray, a tourniquet, medical chest seals, gloves, a second pair of cuffs (maybe hinged cuffs if you have a chained set or a chained pair if you have a hinged set), perhaps a baton, a good adjustable LED flashlight and a body-worn camera. And maybe even some form of body armor. Your job will get sketchy, and in a quick fashion
HEY CAN YOU SEND LINK FOR FUTY BELT. THNK U .
Does anyone have suggestions for concealed body armor for women?
Is that a new safelife carrier in the thumbnail looks different than mine?
The advantlink link is invalid
And yeah tbh my number one worried is getting blasted by security, law enforcement or conceld carry ppl that are just coming onto the set i think having a hat in the car and an ID around the neck is good , and idk how I never thought of thr stenciled back one 🤦♂️
Which brand is the med pouch? Thank you!
Allegience Holster Company
Www.allegianceholsters.com
That looks like a “Useless stick” like an Asp only smaller and lighter weight.
I have a security duty belt. It stays in my vehicle. Only carry baton/ flashlight ring,Small pepper on key chain, Pocket flashlight, pocket clip knife. And one spare mag in pocket and 1911 in hip holster kidney. position. And my most IMPORTANT TOOL, MY COFFEE THERMOS.
Do I sell Batons
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This is literally why the Unity Tactical Clutch exists... boom, problem solved.
You definitely look like a fed, not really low vis but it's hard to conceal all that gear
you only have 1 extra mag *( you could carry 2 or three of those concealed mag holders guess you've never been in a gun battle before )* your not a cop they carry 2-3 extra usually and 1 in the gun, 1 mag vs 4 or 5 people GL man
A passive retention holster……I’m out on that. Ridiculous
If it's concealed the jacket is the retention. It's not impossible that a scuffle might happen but it's hard to take a gun with a fabric barrier over it and even harder to take a gun that you don't know exists.
Talk talk talk .......
Suspenders.
Your jacket makes too much noise.